Branicks Group AG

Thank you very much. So welcome, everybody, to our half year results presentation for 2025.

This call will also be webcast live on Branicksgroup.com, and a replay of the call will be available on our website shortly after the end of the call. Our CEO, Sonja Warntges, will now give you an overview of our financials, our guidance and the current market development.

After the presentation, we will be happy to take your questions. Please note that management's comments during this call will include forward-looking statements, which involve risks and uncertainties.

For a discussion of risk factors, I encourage you to review the fact and the safe harbor statement contained in today's press release and presentation. All documents related to our half year 2025 reporting has been made available on our website.

I will now turn the call over to Sonja for her remarks. Sonja, please, the floor is yours.

Thank you, Jasmin. Good morning, ladies and gentlemen.

Also a warm welcome from my side for Branicks Q2 2025 Results Conference Call. Today, as usual, I'm joined by my colleagues from the Accounting and Investor Relations department.

I will give you an overview on what has been achieved in the last quarter and present you our key numbers as well as our unchanged outlook for 2025. At the end of the call, we will also offer you the possibility to raise your questions.

Dear all, in terms of a rough overview about what we have delivered during the first half year '25, I would like to highlight the topics mentioned on Slide #2. First of all, again, we achieved major milestones in terms of our financial consolidation and the reduction of our liability.

In total, we paid back promissory notes of EUR 225 million in the first half year 2025, and additional EUR 68 million at the end of July. Our focus remains on further reducing liabilities with a continued concentration on our covenant as well as on our liquidity situation.

With regards to our external disposals, we made good progress during the second quarter. During the first half year, we managed to sell 10 assets out of our commercial portfolio for a total of EUR 131 million.

Out of these transactions, a total of EUR 82 million is already closed. The remaining volume is expected to be closed during the second half of this year.

We are confident that Branicks again will be an active participant in a still challenging transaction market in 2025, and we stick to our EUR 600 million to EUR 800 million disposal target. The transaction pipeline is well filled and our transaction teams are working successfully in order to realize the yield.

With regards to our commercial portfolio, it continues to be a sustainable and predictable cash flow provider. The ongoing portfolio optimization results in a like-for-like radical growth of 1%.

At the same time, we managed to increase the average rent from EUR 9.6 per square meter to EUR 10.02 per square meter. With regards to our logistics asset class, the largest single letting in 2025 was a 10-year contract with the organic food company, which is [indiscernible] for 26,699 square meters in the greater [indiscernible] area.

Other major lettings in the logistics sector included a successful new letting contracts for our development projects, GreenBiz Park in Erding. In my view, these new and follow-up lettings in 2025 prove that customer proximity and attractive high-quality properties, particularly in terms of sustainability criteria are in demand even in a challenging market environment and our leading dynamic business.

With EUR 8.4 billion assets under management, our institutional business remains the second strong pillar of our business model, recording a slight like-for-like rental growth during the reporting period compared to prior year. Thanks to our strong and solid setup within this segment, we are ready to benefit from a market upswing, particularly with regards to increasing transaction fees.

And last but not least, again, we continue to be cost sensitive and manage to generate a 14.3% OpEx reduction compared to last year's first half year. With regards to our financial maturities profile, we continue to pursue our deleveraging path.

After already having reduced our financial liabilities in total by EUR 667 million in 2024, we achieved further milestones during the first half year 2025. As promised, we paid back all of our EUR 225 million promissory notes.

This means that for the remaining year, we only have to roll further an amount EUR 77 million, and that includes about EUR 5 million [ scheduled ] amortization. The remainder consists of 3 real estate financing where we are already in advanced negotiations.

In view of our EUR 400 million Green Bond, which is due on the 22nd of September 2026, we are exploiting different options in this regard. Nevertheless, it is too soon to talk about concrete steps.

Let me underline in this context that our focus to deleverage our balance sheet while monitoring our Green Bond covenants remain one of our highest priority. We improved our bond LTV from 58.2% as of the end of March 2025 to 57.4%, enlarging the headroom to the covenant level.

It is expected to improve further due to disposals and the already achieved redemption of the 2025 promissory notes. We are aiming to reduce our LTV further in the midterm.

And we also improved the ICR covenant from [ 2.1 ] as of end of March to [ 2.3 ], also widening the headroom to the 1.8 threshold. In terms of our average interest rate, it is important to underline that over the course of the quarter and due to the redemption of the bridge as well as due to additional optimization, we continuously improved this KPI during the recent quarter from 3.36% as of end of March 2024 to 2.4% as of end of June 2025.

Let's now take a deeper look in the results of our real estate platform shown on Slide #4. Our like-for-like rental income remained strong.

The like-for-like rental income rose by 0.9% for the entire portfolio under management. While the commercial portfolio shows an increase of 1%, we also saw a slight plus of 0.9% within the institutional business.

The rent increases were realized primarily through indexation. In terms of square meters, the letting performance of our platform increased in the first half year by 18.7% year-on-year to 214,700 square meters.

The total letting performance for the first half year shows 104,000 square meter new leases and 110,700 square meter renewals of existing leases. In total, assets under management was EUR 11.1 billion were slightly down compared to last year, mostly due to disposal became effective in the course of the year.

The commercial portfolio saw a decrease from EUR 3.6 billion, down to EUR 2.7 billion, which was a direct result of the disposal activities year-on-year. Institutional business was also affected by the termination of a larger property management mandate.

As of today, only 2.1% of the total annualized rental income would expire in 2025, if these contracts are not [ pro ] launched. Over 85% of annualized rental income has a lease length until 2027 and longer.

For larger expiries in 2025 and 2026, we already proactively started negotiations with the tenants. On our next slide, let me highlight the development of our main income stream.

Net rental income fell to EUR 63.4 million, primarily because we successfully sold rental generating assets. Income from associated companies, which is mainly consisted of deferred income from fund share decreased to EUR 2.1 million.

The real estate management fees remained stable at EUR 20.8 million, thereof EUR 19.8 million recurring asset and property management fees, and EUR 1.9 million transaction related fees. Our income from rents and managed fees on the platform with EUR 84.2 million were slightly lower year-on-year.

Nevertheless, we are showing a very high degree of recurring income stream. Now let's take a closer look on the development of the FFO year-on-year that is overall in line with our expectations.

The net rental income shows a decrease EUR 13.7 million due to disposal. The share of the profit from associates decreased by EUR 1.3 million due to the sale of the VIB Retail Balance I at the end of 2024.

Our OpEx development had a positive contribution to our FFO, showing results from our Performance 2024 program. The increase of our adjusted net interest result amounted to EUR 19 million.

This is an immediate positive effect from the continued reduction of our liability. In total and to sum it up, we see the FFO amounting to [ EUR 22.7 million ] after the first 6 months of the business year, that is exactly in line with what we expect with regards to our full year guidance range.

In view of our expectations for our current business year, we stick to our guidance. We expect gross rental income in the range from EUR 125 million to EUR 135 million and real estate management fees between EUR 50 million and EUR 60 million.

The FFO I after minorities and before taxes of EUR 40 million to EUR 55 million. And with regards to acquisitions, we foresee no acquisitions for our on-balance sheet activities and EUR 100 million to EUR 200 million within our institutional business sector.

The disposal guidance plays a range of EUR 600 million to EUR 800 million, whereas EUR 500 million to EUR 600 million in our commercial portfolio, and EUR 100 million to EUR 200 million in our institutional business. Beyond our guidance for the current year, our midterm ambition remains unchanged.

We strive to transform Branicks Group towards the profitable ESG focus and value-generating asset experts to sustainably strengthen cash flow and financial position. And we have a clear midterm ambition to further reduce our debt that will be along improving the respective KPIs.

And having said that, I would like to hand over to the moderator for your questions.

Sonja, here's Stefan. My first question is about the EPRA vacancy rate.

It's a bit up from 7% to 8% in your portfolio, but you had a very good letting performance in the first half of the year. So perhaps you can explain here a bit more.

I assume the letting was more in the institutional business.

Good morning, Stefan. No, that's not the case.

So the letting was as well in the commercial portfolio as in the institutional business.

Okay. But the vacancy rate is still a bit higher than it was before from 7.3% to 8.3% or something like this.

And you mentioned in your debt maturity profile that there is a bank loan, about EUR 72 million, and still open. Do you assume that this is finished in the -- during the third quarter?

And how do you judge at the moment the bank landscape and the willingness for commercial real estate loans? And how is the situation if the asset is not a [ Green ] asset?

Okay. To the first question.

So there is a timing difference, so to say, in letting performance and in the vacancy rates, sorry. Yes, because we do the -- as you can imagine, we do the letting.

And then after some months, when the letting is effective, the vacancy rate goes down. But at the end of the day, we mostly see renewals here.

So as said in the speech before, and the renewals do not have an effect on the vacancy rate. So that's the main course here.

From the bank side, yes, you have it right. We have EUR 77 million open, there of EUR 5 million our normal amortization.

And the other one, the other number reflects refinancing we have to do during the last months here. One is due in September.

So we already finished this negotiation very successfully. And the other 2 are due at the end of the year.

And also there, we are in negotiations with different banks. So the most important or the most useful thing, would be to refinance it with the existing bank, and that's in mostly cases what we are doing.

But we also ask other banks to get a -- we have to get a good offer. But at the end of the day, we see no problem here.

The banks are very supportive here. And the last refinancing we have done without any equity bringing in.

So that's in a good shape there.

Okay, okay. My next question is about the refinancing of the EUR 400 million Green Bond, which is due in about 1 year in September '26.

My best assumption for the moment would be that you might search forth to bring down the debt and also to perhaps make a prolongation offer to the existing bondholders and also perhaps to replace a part of it by bank loans. So it's a mix of all and giving prolongation offer to the existing shareholders, which naturally -- which are higher interest rate.

So is this the most likely case or the most likely scenario for the moment?

So as also said in the speech, we are here in different thoughts, but we don't have, yes, a solution, a final solution found here. So at the end of the day, we are proving different options and maybe it would be a mix of some options, as you have said, but I could not say anything to this today.

But I think you have to keep in mind that we have paid back or refinanced nearly EUR 800 million over the last 1.5 years. And I think this shows that we are able to negotiate such things and find solutions.

And that's the case we are expecting also for the financial liabilities we have upfront in the next 12 to 18 months.

Okay, okay. My last question is a very general question about the office market.

In my view, we still have not too much transactions. And in my view, the German economy is still sluggish.

The political situation all over Europe is still shaky, and that makes it not easier. What's your impression for the moment?

And what's your best case or your best scenario, what to happen, let's say, for the second half of the year and also for '26? Do you expect a strong upswing or it's more gradual improvement?

Yes, that's an interesting question. So the crystal ball is still difficult to have here or to see.

But at the end of the day, as you can read in the newspapers, the problem is that our Chancellor is expected to be [indiscernible] for the outside negotiations, but not for the inside negotiations in Germany. And so the uncertainty is still there.

And this uncertainty is difficult for the German business, yes. So thereof within this uncertainty as well office as well as logistics as well as retail is still difficult, yes.

So we see a lot of interest in letting as well as in sales the outside. So there are outside guys who let or who want to do transactions.

But at the end of the day, this -- the transaction prices for offices are not there, where they should be in our perspective. And therefore, I think the transaction market still remain not very busy over the next weeks.

I think at the end of the year, some of the guys will say, "Oh, the end of the year is coming. We had some targets.

We have to do something." That's normal as always, and I think this will be also this year the case.

But it is still difficult, yes. And as fast as we have expected and the market has expected and uncertainty does not help here.

But at the end of the day, as you can see in the letting, there is something going on, but it's difficult and it's time consuming, and you have to negotiate very hard to do a good deal, yes. That's definitely the case.

I have just one. And this concerns actually, the earlier question on the bond maturity and the VIB AGM resolution.

As part of the AGM, it was said that VIB is allowed to issue material debt. So is your plan now that VIB issues that [indiscernible] bond or [indiscernible] or whatsoever in order to acquire additional assets from Branicks so that Branicks can meet the '26 bond maturity or that maybe VIB enters again into intercompany financing with Branicks to repay the bond?

Would be helpful to receive some comments, what's the likely pathway is for meeting a bond maturity next year? And if VIB will play a role here?

Yes, thank you for the question. But as I said, we are in discussions here.

We are in a thinking process, and we don't have a final solution here yet. And so I cannot say anything to this.

Sorry for that.

First question is linked to the disposal target for the commercial portfolio of EUR 500 million to EUR 600 million. First, just to confirm, is that [ spine ] amount or close amount?

And secondly, can you help us bridge from the EUR 130 million in the first half to the EUR 500 million and EUR 600 million. I noticed that in the current trading update, you sold 2 or 3 assets for EUR 24 million already since Q2.

And in addition to that, you mentioned you signed 2 logistic assets that you expect to close in late Q3 and late Q4. Would be interesting to have the average amount, some indication on the amount of proceeds expected on these 2 logistic assets.

But in general, it will be good to have some color on the bridge to reach the disposal target for commercial portfolio. And I have another question.

Hello?

Yes. Do you hear me?

Yes.

Okay. Yes, thank you for your question.

So at the end of the day, today, we have around about EUR 130 million in place. With the EUR 600 million is the signing number.

So we always give our targets to signings. And we are in negotiations of the EUR 600 million.

So we are very confident that we will get to EUR 600 million until the end of the year.

Sorry, the amount of negotiation is EUR 500 million or EUR 600 million?

Pardon?

The amount of -- you said you are in negotiation is?

Yes. We have -- today, we have finalized EUR 130 million around about, the [indiscernible] is EUR 600 million.

And so we are in negotiations for the remaining EUR 470 million, still in final discussions. But at the end of the day, we are very confident that we get the EUR 600 million until end of December.

Can you give us an indication on the size of the 2 logistic assets signed already?

Yes. We have signed 2 assets with around about EUR 30 million.

Do you mean them or?

I mean in the Q2 report, there is the disposal for EUR 24 million in the events post -- after closing of Q2. And on top of that, you said you signed the subsequent event.

[indiscernible] has been signed for the sale of 2 logistics properties.

Yes. And now I'm with it.

These are EUR 170 million.

Okay. The 2 logistics.

Yes. So in total, half of the signing target is done there.

Okay. That's what I wanted to -- got you.

Okay, the second point is liquidity. So you have EUR 66 million of cash at the end of Q2, of which, do I understand correctly, only 38 are now restricted?

Yes, that's right.

Which were EUR 66 million as of Q1. So you managed to get EUR 28 million now restricted.

Is that correct?

That's correct. Yes.

Okay. Can you give us what happened there, an explanation?

Yes, this was a guarantee, so to say, and this guarantee was -- the course of this guarantee has finished and both the guarantee is [ free ] now, and therefore, it was [indiscernible].

Still, you paid EUR 68 million of promissory note at the end of July. So considering the amount of liquidity and even potentially the EUR 24 million of proceeds from the disposal of the offices, the balance is quite -- cash balance is quite tight.

So what's the balance, cash balance pro forma for the repayment of the EUR 68 million of promissory note? Or did you raise some debt to repay those promissory notes?

No, we didn't raise that for this promissory note. It was paid back from our operational liquidity.

Okay. And very last question, I saw that you raised EUR 58 million of new financing in the first half of the year from the cash flow, again, in the financial statements.

Are those mortgages on unencumbered assets or?

No, these other refinancing from our real estate from the assets, so to say. So we showed them so called [indiscernible].

So we pay back the existing liability and get the new one in.

So these are only rolled financing. No additional financing?

Yes. Rolled financing.

I have 3 questions. The first one is on OpEx.

You made very good progress in bringing down OpEx further in the first half. What is the outlook for the OpEx development?

And do you see further potential to cut costs? That's the first question.

And I think let's take them one by one.

So we expect for a total year on about EUR 54 million in total for the OpEx costs.

And the next question is on the like-for-like rental growth. Can you provide more color on what was driving this like-for-like rental growth, specifically which part comes from inflation adjustment, which from vacancy change and which from the reletting performance?

It's around about 50% of each of it.

And my last question is on financing costs. I was wondering if you can give us an indication what kind of spreads the banks are currently demanding for secured financing and if there have been any changes in the recent months versus before?

Yes, we are in the range of around about 3.7% to 4.3% for the refinancing.

I have only one question related to the maturities. Could you please explain also the plans for the maturing promissory notes in 2026 or EUR 100 million?

The plans are to pay them back, yes.

I mean also with the, let's say, sources like with the refinancing or with the disposals or a combination, if there is a bridge in order to conclude the payments.

Yes. As I said, it's the same discussion for the bonds.

So we are in discussions or we are improving what can be done and proving the options. And so at the end of the day, it will come from, I think, more or less operational business.

But at the moment, we have not finalized the 2026 plan. So yes, that's what I can say at the moment.

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Can you maybe hear me now?

Okay. Sorry, my mic.

I had to change the headset. So I guess I wanted to ask around the disposal target, the EUR 500 million, EUR 600 million of the commercial portfolio.

So if that's achieved this year, and I don't know how much bank debt would be associated with those assets, but use of those proceeds, there's only the sort of the EUR 144 million left of [indiscernible] next year before the bonds or the majority of it before the bonds. Can we sort of start thinking about maybe some sort of a dividend that can be paid or anything like that?

I know with the AGM a couple of weeks ago, VIB, for example, elected for a dividend. Yes, very small.

But just sort of just thinking about the size of the proceeds versus the upcoming maturities is pretty significant and other than debt paydown. If you're starting to think about maybe distribution to shareholders as well.

Yes, thank you for your question. So as I said on the annual meeting, we want to be a dividend-paying company, but I don't think that we could be one next year.

So we have to work on our liabilities and there are some high liabilities to pay back next year. And therefore, this will be the first priority.

And we would like to come back to net profit at the end of 2026 and later. And I think then, we will be back to pay dividends, but I don't expect it for next year.

One question regarding your loan to value, you already sold a bunch of assets. You already paid down a significant amount of debt.

But your LTV marginally moved downwards. So what needs to happen?

What needs to be done that we can see a significant reduction of the LTV towards the only term goal of around 50% or even below 50%?

Yes, that's a good question. So at the end of the day, it all remains on the evaluation, yes.

And therefore, I think we have reached a peak end of last year. And also the transaction markets are not there, what we wanted to have what we have expected.

I'd say with the idea that the evaluation will not extensively go down going forward. And therefore, I think that's a good sign for us and also for the relating market prices coming from these evaluation in the market.

And therefore, that's the main goal to get the evaluation up or to get them stay where they are. And it all depends on the letting and on the interest in, yes, in German assets, so to say.

And to come back to my speech, definitely, we are not there, what we have expected beginning of the year. But what we see is that foreign investors are having more and more interest in the German market and the transaction market is done by foreign investors, so to say.

And therefore, I think to come back, the evaluation will stay in this -- on this level and hopefully go a little bit up at the end of the year or beginning of next year in general. And then we will see the LTV going down.

So that's the idea of what we have on this side.

Perfect. Thank you so much.

So this concludes our Q&A session on our call. Thank you so much for joining us today.

Our next IR highlight will be the publication of our Q3 results on November 6. So stay healthy and let's talk again soon.

Thank you, bye.