Ahmed Moataz
Hello, everyone. This is Ahmed Moataz from EFG Hermes and welcome to IDH's Third Quarter of '25 Results Conference Call.
I'm pleased to be joined with Dr. Hend El Sherbini, Chief Executive Officer; Sherif El Zeiny, Vice President and Group CFO; and Tarek Yehia, Director of Investor Relations.
The company, as usual, will start with a brief presentation and then we'll open the floor for Q&A. IDH management, please go ahead.
Tarek Yehia
Thank you, Ahmed. Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen and thank you for joining us for our third quarter analyst call.
My name is Tarek Yehia, I'm Head of Investor Relations. Joining me today, Dr.
Hend El Sherbini, our CEO; Mr. Sherif El Zeiny, our CFO and VP.
Dr. Hend will begin the call with a summary of latest period main highlights.
After that, I will discuss in more details the main macroeconomics and geopolitical trends seen across our markets. Then after my presentation, Mr.
Sherif will offer a deeper analysis of our financial performance. Then we will open for Q&A.
Dr. Hend will start now.
Thank you.
Hend El Sherbini
Thank you, Tarek and good afternoon, everyone. I'm Dr.
Hend El Sherbini, CEO of IDH. As we approach the end of what has been another very strong year for the group, I'm pleased to report a robust set of results for the first 9 months of 2025.
The performance we are presenting today reflects not only healthy market dynamics but also the tangible results of the strategic initiatives we have been implementing over the past 2 years, particularly around network and geographic expansion, operational optimization, digitization and service diversification. Throughout the year, we have continued to strengthen our core business in Egypt and Jordan, while making pronounced progress in newer markets, namely Nigeria and Saudi Arabia.
We are also very encouraged by the sustained improvements in our profitability metrics, which confirm the scalability of our model and our ability to translate revenue growth into margin enhancement. We are particularly pleased to see the continued strength and stability of operating conditions in our home market of Egypt, where macroeconomic sentiment has improved and demand for high-quality diagnostic services remain strong.
Turning to our performance in more detail. During the first 9 months of the year, we continued to build on the strong momentum established earlier, delivering 41% revenue growth year-on-year, supported by growth across both volume and value metrics.
Test volumes increased by 10% with all operation geographies contributing to this expansion, supported by stronger patient engagement, deeper penetration in walk-in and corporate channels and improved referral flows. At the same time, our average revenue per test rose 28%, reflecting a richer test mix, broader uptake of high-value radiology and specialized diagnostics and favorable price adjustments introduced earlier in the year.
These trends also helped us further strengthen our average test per patient, which reached 4.6 tests per encounter, demonstrating the continued depth of patient relationships and our success in expanding cross-service utilization across our platform. In Egypt, momentum strengthened further through Q3, supported by solid growth in both volumes and value alongside strong brand equity and stable market conditions.
Test volumes in Egypt continued to grow steadily, while average revenue per test saw a significant uplift, owing to favorable mix dynamics and strong -- with strong traction in radiology, specialized diagnostics and corporate channels. Egypt remains the core engine of group performance, contributing 84% of total revenues in the 9 months of 2025 and continued to demonstrate high scalability, resilience and operating efficiency.
The ongoing expansion of our physical network in Egypt continues to be a key growth driver. Over the past 12 months, we have added 103 new branches in Egypt, bringing the total up to 670 locations nationally as of September.
These new sites have helped deepen our presence, not only in Greater Cairo but also in fast-growing regional cities, allowing us to better serve both corporate and walk-in patients. Our household service remains a strategic differentiator, sustaining its strong contribution of around 20% of Egypt's revenue, continues to demonstrate the effectiveness of our post-pandemic strategy and reinforces our position as an early mover in home-based diagnostics in the region.
Al Borg Scan continues to demonstrate strong momentum as a key component of our long-term strategy to build a fully integrated diagnostics platform. Year-to-date scan volumes and patient traffic recovered well following the Q1 of Ramadan slowdown with Q3 recording clear sequential volume growth.
The integration of Cairo Ray for radiotherapy, which was consolidated this quarter, is progressing well. This acquisition provides us with direct access to radiotherapy service and strengthens our positioning in oncology diagnostics, a fast-growing and strategically important segment.
We expect radiology to play an increasingly prominent role in our growth mix over the coming quarters, supported by continued network expansion, enhanced service capability and rising demand for specialized imaging. Over the past 2 years, a key strategic priority for IDH has been the successful launch and scale up of our Saudi operations.
I'm pleased to share that our presence in the Kingdom continues to develop very encouragingly with strong momentum supported by growing demand, deep market visibility and sustained improvement in both volume and value metrics. Year-to-date, we have seen revenues more than quadruple compared to the same period last year, reflecting rising test volumes, improving mix and early network scale benefits.
This growth continues to highlight the effectiveness of our ramp-up strategy in the market, which aims to accelerate revenue growth and establish Biolab KSA as a key player in the large but high fragmented Saudi diagnostics market. As part of this plan, we inaugurate our third branch in Riyadh during the third quarter and we remain on track to open 3 additional locations over the coming months.
These new branches will help extend our footprint across high potential catchment areas. At the same time, we continue to advance our growth approach, which includes targeted marketing campaigns to build brand recognition, selective promotional initiatives to drive patient acquisition and ongoing discussions with the insurers and corporate health care providers to broaden our referral and partnership networks.
While still in the early stages of development, Biolab KSA is demonstrating strong operation traction and reaffirming our belief in the long-term potential of Saudi Arabia as a key pillar in the group's regional growth strategy. As always, profitability remains a core focus for us and we are very pleased to see sustained improvements across all levels of the income statement.
We continue to benefit from strong operational leverage, tighter cost controls and better resource allocation across our subsidiaries, including Nigeria, where Echo-Lab remained positive EBITDA throughout the 9-month period, marking a key milestone in its turnaround and confirming the potential of its high -- of this high-growth market. Overall, both COGS and SG&A and share of revenue continued to decline, supported by disciplined cost management and our growing digitization efforts.
COGS to revenue fell to 57%, while SG&A declined to 15% from 17% last year, underscoring the success of our optimization initiatives. Consequently, our EBITDA margin expanded to 35% from 30% last year, while gross profit margin rose to 43% compared with 38% in the 9 months of 2024.
These efforts, combined with strong top line growth and improved pricing dynamics have translated into meaningful margin expansion and greater earnings quality with adjusted net profit more than doubling year-on-year while excluding FX effects. Before handing the call over to Tarek, I would like to briefly reiterate our full year guidance in light of our year-to-date performance and the momentum we are seeing across all markets.
Given the strong results delivered over the first 9 months, coupled with relatively stable operating conditions, continue to expect full year revenue growth to come in at more than 35% in the full year of 2025. On the profitability front, we remain confident in delivering an EBITDA margin more than 30%, supported by sustained cost discipline, stronger operating leverage and the continued improvement in our Nigerian operations.
With that, I will hand the call back over to Tarek and Sherif, who will take you through key trends across our markets and a more detailed breakdown of our financial performance of the period. Thank you very much.
Tarek Yehia
Thank you, Dr. Hend.
This year, we have continued to operation in relatively stable conditions with supportive macro trends and constructive across all our key markets as we approach the end of 2025. In Egypt, we are continuing to see slower inflation compared to prior years with the latest trading of September coming at a multi-month low of 11.7%.
[ Decreasing ] increasing inflation pressure have been supported by relative strengthening of EGP versus dollar as well as increased ForEx inflows into Egypt as investor confidence recovers and remittance continue to rise. In fact, in recent weeks, we have seen EGP continuing to appreciate, reaching a low of 47.3 to dollar in October and as low as 46.92 last week.
Successful rate cuts throughout the year continued to reach 6.25 points have now brought the overnight deposits to 21%. This will undoubtedly help prop up local investments activity and drive further recovery in consumer spending.
Similar to Egypt, Nigeria also has seen relative stability in 2025. Inflation has come down from last year highs and expected to support gradual recovery in consumer spending.
Over in Jordan and Saudi, the economic situation remained largely stable despite increased regional uncertainty. While Saudi Arabia economic could be tested by the ongoing global trade tensions, we remain confident that the excellent work done by the Saudi government to build resilience in the economy will help safeguard the country.
Turning quickly to our latest results. Egypt continued to deliver strong growth with revenue rising 44% year-on-year, supported by both volume expansion and significant increase in average revenue per test, particularly driven by radiology and high-volume diagnostics.
Meanwhile, Jordan continued its solid performance, reporting revenue growth in both AP and local currency terms. Test volume increased by 21% year-on-year, supported by Biolab ongoing promotion campaign and digital outreach initiatives.
In a market where volume-driven growth is critical for long-term sustainability, we are pleased to see Biolab's strategy continue to deliver strong volume momentum and patient retention through community engagement and service quality. In Nigeria, Echo-Lab has maintained its positive EBITDA momentum supported by successful implementation of our turnaround strategy launched last year.
We are increasingly confident in long-term potential for our Nigerian subsidiary to expand its radiology and specialized testing capability and capture the significant upside of a growing market. In Saudi, the ramp-up progressed ahead of expectations with revenue more than quadrupling year-on-year and [ subscription ] growth supported by increasing brand visibility and network expansion.
Finally, in Sudan, operation remains significantly constrained by the ongoing conflict with only one branch partially operating and no material updates to report at this stage. I will now handle the call to Mr.
Sherif, who will provide a more detailed overview of our cost and profitability for the first 9 months.
Sherif Mohamed El Zeiny
Good morning -- good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen and thank you for your time today. As Tarek mentioned, during my presentation, I will focus on costs, margins, profitability and our working capital position before opening up the floor to your questions.
In line with our guidance, profitability for the first 9 months of the year has continued to improve, supported by our group-wide efforts to boost operational efficiency and keep spending at bay. A major focus area over the last 18 months has been digitalization, where we have continued integrating advanced data tools and analytics into our internal platforms, procurement systems and financial planning to enhance decision-making and improve cost discipline.
These efforts, combined with a stronger operation leverage and better resource allocation helped drive meaningful improvements in efficiency with both COGS and SG&A as a share of revenue declining versus last year. In parallel, we also -- we are also keenly focused on keeping costs down.
Our efforts here have translated in a 9 percentage point drop in our total cost to revenue ratio for that period compared to last year. More specifically, our COGS to revenue ratio improved to 57% in 9 months '25, down from 62% in the same period of last year, supported by disciplined inventory management and stronger purchasing processes.
The most notable improvements came within raw materials, which decreased to 19.6% of revenue, down from 21.9% last year, reflecting our scale advantages and smarter procurement practices. At the same time, total wage and salaries as a share of revenue remained broadly stable, underscoring our balance between supporting our staff with appropriate salary adjustment while continuing to optimize headcount.
As you can see in the bottom right chart, these efficiency gains translated directly into a stronger profitability with gross profit margin expanding to 43% from 38% last year and EBITDA margins rising to 35% from 30% in 9 months 2024. On the SG&A front, spending remains well contained with SG&A as a share of revenue declined to 15%.
The main increase within SG&A was in advertising and marketing expenses, which continued to support the ramp-up in Saudi Arabia and targeted promotional initiatives in Egypt and Jordan. Moving to our bottom line.
We reported a net profit of EGP 964 million in 9 months 2025, up 33% year-on-year. As highlighted earlier, last year's reported net profit, including substantial ForEx gains, which distort direct comparisons.
When controlling for those ForEx gain, adjusted net profit increased more than 119% year-on-year with an associated adjusted net profit margin of 17% versus 11% last year. As always, we maintained a disciplined approach to working capital management as we supported rising demand while preserving strong liquidity.
Similarly, we saw our cash conversion cycle improved further to reach 127 days in September 2025 versus 155 days at the end of '24. It is also important to mention that as expected, we saw a decline in days inventory outstanding, stronger sales momentum and more efficiency inventory turnover during the second and third quarters of the year following the seasonal Ramadan slowdown in March.
Finally, as 30th of September 2025, our total cash reserves stood at EGP 1.8 billion with a net cash balance of EGP 271 million. Thank you for your attention.
We now welcome any questions you may have. Thank you.
Ahmed Moataz
[Operator Instructions] There is one question in the chat on whether you're at a position right now to disclose the planned price increases in Egypt that would start from January of 2026.
Tarek Yehia
We're still in the process of preparing the budget, and it's too early to comment on this but of course, will be a price increase for next year.
Ahmed Moataz
Understood. The second is on whether you can disclose a time line for the breakeven for Nigeria -- sorry, Saudi operations.
And if you have a targeted revenue contribution over, let's say, 3, 5 or even longer than that as a percentage of total revenue.
Tarek Yehia
For the EBITDA, we are expecting a breakeven by end of 2026.
Ahmed Moataz
Understood. And is there something on the revenue contribution as well?
Tarek Yehia
Revenue continued to grow year-over-year and contribution to the top line still less than 1% but by time, gradually will increase. Still Egypt represents 82% and Jordan represents 14%, 84% for Egypt and 14% for Jordan.
Ahmed Moataz
All right. Two questions from [ Johannes ].
Can you talk us through the change of ownership of the Actis stake and what you expect from Elliott? That's one.
The second is, what is your dividend policy at the moment?
Hend El Sherbini
So I mean the Actis stake has been bought by Elliott as a part of a bigger deal. We don't really have any visibility on this right now.
And regarding the dividends, as usual, any money that we have, which are not used for investments and for the work, we give it back as -- we give it back to investors as dividends, as long as it's -- we are able to do that.
Ahmed Moataz
[Operator Instructions] We'll take questions from the line of [ Darren ].
Unknown Analyst
Dr. Hend, you just -- you commented that the Actis sale is part of a bigger deal.
What does that mean exactly? Do you have any other color there you can share?
Hend El Sherbini
I know that Actis have [ exited ] private equity and they sold their shares in IDH and other companies to Elliott. But I don't know exactly -- I don't have the exact details of this deal.
Unknown Analyst
Okay. Understood.
So you're saying there's other businesses that have been sold to Elliott. And you haven't had -- the management team hasn't had any correspondence with Elliott at all?
They haven't reached out to you or you guys haven't reached out to them to get a sense of what their plans are?
Hend El Sherbini
I've seen them when I was in London. I've met with them.
And -- but this was like an introductory meeting, nothing -- no specifics.
Unknown Analyst
And do you have a sense, is it their intention just to be passive shareholders? Is it a purely financial investment?
Or is there something more strategic? My understanding is they have, I think, interest in another Egyptian diagnostics business, if that's correct?
Hend El Sherbini
No, this I don't know. Which other diagnostic business?
Unknown Analyst
I think it's a much smaller one but they were part of a transaction in last year, I believe. But I can't remember the name of the firm but anyways.
Hend El Sherbini
I haven't heard -- and they didn't mention it, no.
Ahmed Moataz
We received 2 questions in the chat. I'll take them one by one.
First one is how much CapEx have you got planned for Saudi operations and expansions?
Tarek Yehia
For Saudi, we have a plan for the next 5 years with a CapEx of $20 million.
Ahmed Moataz
All right. This is 2025 included?
Or when you say 5 years, this is 2026 and beyond?
Tarek Yehia
This starts from 2026.
Ahmed Moataz
Starts from 2026. Okay.
Two more questions in the chat. The first one, [indiscernible].
Please, can you share your expectations on growth beyond this year in terms of volume and value? And can you also comment on market-specific growth expectations?
Tarek Yehia
We're still in the process of preparing the budget but we are aiming to targeting growth across all the geographies we are working at -- operating in.
Ahmed Moataz
Understood. [ Ali Masood ] is asking, how many Actis Board representatives are on IDH's Board?
And any expectations on if and when those members will step down?
Hend El Sherbini
So there's only one Board member from Actis and he's also representing -- I mean, he's not stepping down because he's -- I think he's going to be also Elliott's representative.
Ahmed Moataz
Understood. Can you comment on your expectations for branch additions in Egypt in 2026?
Will it be at a similar level to 2025, higher or low?
Tarek Yehia
It is -- we're still also the same for the budget. We're still in the process but we will see growth in the number of branches as -- and our growing brand -- ongoing process of growth each year.
Ahmed Moataz
Sure. [indiscernible] is asking, how will the growing contribution from Saudi impact group returns and margins when Saudi is in steady state?
Tarek Yehia
After 5 years for the 5-year plan for Saudi to represent 7% from the group revenue.
Ahmed Moataz
Okay. And the question was more on how do you expect this when it has a 7% revenue contribution to impact your overall returns and margins.
I think the question is trying to assess whether Saudi operations by itself is margin accretive or not relative to what you're generating right now and at the same time, return accretive or not? Do you want me to repeat the question?
Hend El Sherbini
We're expecting it in the 5 years to be in the vicinity of the 30%, if this is -- if this answers the question.
Ahmed Moataz
[Operator Instructions] All right. We haven't received any -- no, we actually did one, sorry, 2 questions.
What does the $20 million Saudi CapEx imply for the number of branches in Saudi 2030 Vision. Sorry, one second, I'll re-read the question.
Actually, we'll skip this one and I'll go back to it. Are margins at 38% sustainable?
Or do you think it's a function of the strong EGP FX taking place this year?
Hend El Sherbini
I mean, as long as we have a stable currency, I think this is sustainable. We're getting back to our 40% margins.
And the strong FX has nothing to do with our improvement in margin. However, the stabilization of the currency is, of course, is helping in maintaining our margins.
Ahmed Moataz
All right. Back to [ Farooq's ] question.
How does the $20 million Saudi CapEx imply for the number of branches by 2030? So by the end of the year plan, how many -- or by the end of the 5 years, how many total branches you have in Saudi?
That's one. And the second is, is the Saudi strategy branch-focused more?
I think he means corporate or wholesale contract focus because [ Farooq ], can you send a clarification on the second part of the question until they answer the branches part?
Hend El Sherbini
So we're expecting 45 branches by the end of the 5 years. And this is where the CapEx is going together with, of course, the instruments and everything else.
This in terms of CapEx. In terms of revenue, we're expecting a breakdown of 50% corporate and 50% walk-in.
Ahmed Moataz
Understood. Could you also please talk us through the outlook on margins for Jordan?
Tarek Yehia
Jordan margin for the current year, in the range of 30%.
Ahmed Moataz
All right. [ Ali Naser ] is asking, can you please provide details on the Cairo Ray acquisition?
What was the investment size? And what is the annualized P&L impact on the consolidated level?
And lastly, how much did it impact third quarter results?
Tarek Yehia
The total investment cost was around $400 million. sorry, EGP 400 million.
Ahmed Moataz
And the rest of the question, please, what is the annualized P&L impact? And how much did it impact third quarter results?
Tarek Yehia
For the quarter, it is minimal because we already consolidated for a small portion in Q3. The same will apply for Q4 and more contribution will be done in the full year next year.
Ahmed Moataz
Understood. [indiscernible] is asking, what is a stable long-term level for COGS and SG&A as a percentage of revenue?
How much more cutting or savings do you expect and the potential uplift to EBITDA margins?
Tarek Yehia
For the COGS to revenue ratio, which already improved to 57% in the 9 months, coming down from 62%, we're expecting we can go down 1% or 2 more percent going forward. And also for the SG&A, it already went down from 21.9% to 19.6%.
And going forward, we can see 1% or 2% more advantage from recruitment and a lot of cost optimization that we are in process improvement year-over-year.
Ahmed Moataz
Understood. [ Marina ] is asking, how do you see the contract and walk-in dynamic play out in Egypt over time, let's say, for the next -- sorry, 3 to 5 years?
Do you expect contract volumes to continue growing faster than walk-ins? And what does that mean for longer-term margins?
Hend El Sherbini
So yes, we expect the contract contribution to grow. However, we're also seeing increase in the walk-in volumes.
So both are increasing. And this -- I mean, this is not -- this is affecting -- this is not really affecting our margins directly because in the corporates, we are seeing increased volumes.
So the test per patient in the corporate side is much higher than in the walk-in side. And as this is an economy of scale, we always want both things, the increase in volume as well as the increase in pricing.
So this is -- I think this dynamic we have been seeing for a few years now and it hasn't affected our margins.
Ahmed Moataz
Understood. [indiscernible] is asking, volume growth in Egypt was solid at 9%.
Is this primarily driven by the 103 new branches opened over the last year? Or are you seeing same-store sales growth in the more mature branches?
Hend El Sherbini
We are seeing volume growth in both the new and the existing branches on both sides, corporate and walk-ins.
Ahmed Moataz
[indiscernible] has a question.
Unknown Analyst
Just a follow-up on the question I asked about Cairo Ray. I don't think you answered that.
Please again but I know you bought it for EGP 400 million but I wanted to ask about what is the revenue of this company? What's the EBITDA of this company?
What's the net income of this company on a trailing 12-month basis or maybe '26 basis?
Sherif Mohamed El Zeiny
Our full year estimates on the top line is around EGP 52 million and on the EBITDA level, around EGP 16 million. This translates to around 30% EBITDA margin.
Ahmed Moataz
All right. I'll pass it back to you, Dr.
Hend, Sherif or Tarek for any concluding remarks.
Tarek Yehia
Thank you, everyone. If you have any more questions, you have our contact.
We're happy to have a follow-up call, any -- respond to any e-mails. Thank you, everyone, for attending today and thank you, Ahmed, for hosting the call.
Hend El Sherbini
Thank you. Thank you, everyone.
Ahmed Moataz
Thank you, everyone, and to IDH's management as well. Have a good rest of the day, everyone.
This concludes today's earnings call.
Tarek Yehia
Thank you.