Independent Bank Corp.

Independent Bank Corp.

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Q2 2013 · Earnings Call Transcript

Jul 12, 2013

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Operator

Good morning and welcome to the Independent Bank Corp Second Quarter 2013 Earnings Call. [Operator Instructions]

Operator

This call may contain forward-looking statements with respect to the financial condition, results of operations and business of Independent Bank Corp. Actual results may be different.

Independent Bank Corp. cautions you against unduly relying upon any forward-looking statements and disclaims any intent to update publicly any forward-looking statements, whether in response to new information, future events or otherwise.

Please note this event is being recorded.

I would now like to turn the conference to Christopher Oddleifson. Please go ahead.

Christopher Oddleifson

Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us today. Unfortunately, our CFO, Denis Sheahan could not be with us today, as he had to travel unexpectedly to Ireland to attend to a family illness.

Filling in capably for Denis, is our Treasurer, Rob Cozzone.

Christopher Oddleifson

It was business as usual for us in the second quarter, and that is a good thing. Our welcome to the [indiscernible] story continues to be marked by strong origination volumes, a deepening of customer relationships, growing recognition of our brand and adherence to discipline, as the competitive environment heats up.

Core earnings in the second quarter totaled $13.2 million, or $0.58 per share. Once again, fundamentals led the way.

Commercial lending remains a pillar of strength for us, with the portfolio growing at a double digit annualized rate again in the second quarter. The C&I sector has been especially strong for us.

Deal flow in the commercial real estate side, the CRE side has been good as well, and the commercial pipeline continues to build nicely. Competition for credits is steadily ratcheting up, especially for the small credits by smaller banks anxiously seeking growth.

We have been able to counter this pretty successfully thus far, but we'll keep a watchful eye on trends here.

As before, total loan growth was muted by heavy refinancing volumes that persist in the resi-mortgage space, combined with a known practice of selling a high percentage of originations into secondary markets. Deposits grew sharply in Q2 and continue to serve as a low cost funding source.

Core deposits have now risen to 85% of total deposits. The cost of total deposits declined further, helping us to mitigate the strong pressure on earning asset yields from the low rate environment.

Fee revenues were up nicely in Q2, as strength in the investment management and deposit related services more than compensated for the expected decline in mortgage banking revenues.

The balance sheet remains in very good stead. Capital levels continue to be solid, tangible book value is steadily rising.

Our credit picture is an excellent one with comparably low charge-off at nonperforming levels, and we want continue to prudently add to loan loss reserves, in line with our portfolio growth, and the value we place on maintaining a strong balance sheet. This reinforces the quality of our earnings performance.

So all in all, another solid quarter, and we'll continue to stay focused on generating organic growth.

I should say that, nonetheless, we are remindful of the relentless pressure on interest margins facing our industries, along with the ongoing uncertainty from all the vulgarities of the economy and beltway politics. So we continue to remain well-grounded in our assumptions, and as such, are increasingly attentive to overall expense levels.

Now what we are doing, is we're taking an intelligent approach that balances ongoing investing in our franchise, with efficiencies in other parts of the company. I think this is evidenced by the flat expense levels you saw in Q2.

These select investments are absolutely critical to sustaining future growth in our competitively advantaged businesses. Recent growth initiatives in our commercial businesses for example, have proven quite successful.

So we continue to add senior talent to our high quality investment management and middle market lending units as a way to spur new business development. We're also about to open our first office in Boston, in the Financial District, that'll be staffed by senior investment management, and commercial lending team members, and we're expecting good things here.

Another notable development in Q2 was reaching a definitive agreement to acquire Mayflower Bancorp; a profitable, well-managed institution with an excellent deposit base and strong credit quality. This is a financially attractive, in-market acquisition, that further strengthens our #1 position in a key local market, it builds franchise value in the attractive Southeast Mass footprint, and provides valuable low cost liquidity by adding approximately $235 million in deposits.

We are well along in our integration planning efforts and continue to expect a Q4 closing. We bring a great deal of confidence to this combination, given our recent success in assimilating Central Bancorp with its 10 branches and over $300 million in deposits in the Greater Boston market.

Central was fully converted to our operated systems within 3 months of closing, and extensive training of branch staff and managers the Rockland Trust way was conducted, our sales production volumes have notably risen in these acquired branches and we've achieved all our cost reduction targets.

The fact is that despite all the advances in technologies, our business is still very much a people business. We place a tremendous value on our employee base, training, motivating and powering them.

We have a phrase here, where each relationship matters; and it's more than just a marketing slogan, but it's a beacon that really guides our colleagues to win customers' hearts and minds in the marketplace, and we're certainly very grateful to all of them and their hard work and devotion.

That concludes my brief comments. Now I'll turn it over to Rob.

Rob?

Robert Cozzone

Thank you, Chris, and good morning. I'll now review our earnings release in more details.

Independent Bank Corp. reported net income of $12.8 million, and GAAP diluted earnings per share of $0.56 in the second quarter of 2013.

This compared to net income of $12.3 million, and diluted earnings per share of $0.54 in the first quarter. Both quarters included M&A charges, and the first quarter included severance, associated with the outsourcing of the bank's mortgage operations, as previously discussed.

Excluding these items, diluted earnings per share on an operating basis was $0.58 in both quarters. Year-over-year, diluted earnings per share on an operating basis improved by 35%, as the prior year quarter was negatively impacted by an isolated loan fraud.

Robert Cozzone

I'll now speak to some key items for the quarter. As anticipated, with healthier pipelines, strong commercial loan growth resumed in the second quarter.

The C&I category was up almost 23% annualized during the quarter, and total commercial, including C&I increased at an 11.2% annualized rate during the quarter. Also, the approved pipeline ended the quarter at a year-to-date high of $260 million.

However, aggressive competitive pricing, especially from smaller institutions went unabated during the quarter. The seemingly irrational pricing at times, and our strict discipline, is resulting in lower pull through rates and higher payouts.

In addition, our consumer real estate portfolios continued to experience declines in the second quarter, as refinancing activity lingered. With the recent and significant increase in mortgage rates, this refinancing activity should diminish, as we head into the second half of the year.

The combined result of these loan portfolios changes is just under 1% growth in total loans for the quarter.

As Chris mentioned, core deposit growth was particularly strong in the quarter. Demand deposits increased 7% on annualized, and savings and interest checking increased 5%.

As we mentioned in the first quarter, advertising ramps up in the second quarter and we benefit from some seasonal flows. This core growth contributed to a total cost of deposits of only 23 basis points for the quarter.

In addition, our total cost of funds declined 2 basis points to 46 basis points for the quarter. Asset quality trends remain strong, and importantly, realized and expected losses are very low, at only 18 basis points annualized.

Higher net charge offs and improved loan growth, with a higher provision for the quarter, as we prudently added to reserves.

Nonperforming assets increased $1 million to $48 million in the quarter, with declines in OREO being offset by an increase in home equity nonperforming. Importantly, the increase in home equity is being driven by borrowers that are current with us, but have delinquent first positions at other institutions.

You'll recall that there was clarified guidance issued by the regulatory bodies on this topic in 2012. In fact, our total delinquency for home equity loans and lines at June 30 is only $3.8 million, as compared to $10 million of nonperforming home equity loans and lines.

As stated in the first quarter, we continue to feel really good about the state of our credit profile, and our credit quality outlook for the year has actually improved, which I'll touch on shortly.

The net interest margin was only down 1 basis point during the quarter, as it benefitted slightly from purchase accounting adjustments, as well as an improved balance sheet mix. We continue to expect it to drift slightly lower from here.

However, the increase in market rates, combined with our asset sensitivity, should provide modest relief for the remainder of the year. Should increase in rates hold, next year's net interest income, assuming a static balance sheet, is expected to improve by 2% to 2.5%.

And although there are many interest rate scenarios that could potentially play out, we are fundamentally provisioned for rising rates.

Non-interest income increased by 6% quarter-over-quarter and represented 27% of total revenue. Our continued focus on core checking accounts, both business and personal, has resulted in strong growth in interchange revenue and the increase in commercial loan business has led to increased loan level derivative income.

The non-interest income category also benefited from seasonal tax preparation fees in the quarter. Offsetting these improvements was an interest rate driven reduction in mortgage banking income.

Non-interest expense on an operating basis was essentially flat for the quarter, as decreases in salaries and benefits and snow removal were offset by increases in advertising and mortgage outsourcing. As a reminder, in the fourth quarter of 2012, we outsourced mortgage operations, in an effort to stabilize our cost per unit, while taking advantage of improved technology and compliance effectiveness, a decision we expect to pay off as rates rise.

This increase in mortgage outsourcing expense is offset by a decrease reflected in salaries and benefits and contract labor.

As mentioned on the first quarter call, the Central Bank integration is well underway and we have already exceeded our cost savings objectives. We are now focused on capitalizing on the substantial opportunities the new market presents.

As we do this, we are methodically planning for the Mayflower Bancorp integration. The regulatory application process is on track, and as Chris mentioned, we expect to close on the transaction during the fourth quarter.

The acquisition of Mayflower will strengthen our position in a key market, and provide liquidity to fuel future growth.

I will now provide updated earnings guidance for the remainder of the year. Please keep in mind that this guidance does not include the impact of the Mayflower Bancorp acquisition, which aside from M&A costs should be minimal in 2013.

At our last conference call, we confirmed our operating diluted earnings per share performance guidance for this year of between $2.28 and $2.38, which equates to 6% to 10% EPS growth. We continue to expect that performance.

However, now that we are halfway through the year, we can provide some more clarity.

First, with 15 basis points of charge-offs or $3.3 million year-to-date, we now expect to be slightly lower than the original range of $10 million to $14 million provided. Second, given competition, primarily from smaller, less disciplined financial institutions, we now expect total loan growth to be lower than the originally guided 4% to 5%, and closer to the 1% to 2% experienced in the first half.

These 2 factors will lead to lower provisioning expense, and lower net interest income for the year. The remainder of the full year guidance is essentially the same.

We are fortunate to operate a terrific franchise in great markets and look forward to achieving the EPS growth expected for this year.

That concludes my comments, Chris?

Christopher Oddleifson

Thank you, Rob. Chad, we're ready for some questions.

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our first question today comes from Mark Fitzgibbon, with Sandler O'Neill.

Mark Fitzgibbon

I wondered if you could share with us the size of your loan pipelines at present?

Robert Cozzone

Yes, Mark. The commercial loan pipeline, the approved pipeline that is, is at $260 million, which is the highest it's been year-to-date.

Our residential pipeline is at about $70 million, which was actually pretty close to where it ended last quarter.

Mark Fitzgibbon

Okay, great. And then secondly, your efficiency ratio is around 68%, and I know you've got some noise in there from acquisitions and somewhat higher costs related to your fee-based businesses, but do you have a target that you're driving toward over time?

Christopher Oddleifson

Yes, Mark, this is Chris. I think we'd like to be, over time, and this is not any sort of forecast, sort of in the lower 60s.

We don't anticipate ever getting into the 50s given the nature of our branch network. But Rob has been sort of managing to an efficiency ratio per se here, sort of managing to overall shareholder value creation, and we're sort of balancing sort of explicit expenses, and are not providing a return immediately, but will provide a return in the future.

For example, this Boston office we're opening up, and the additional expense we're incurring in business development. So yes, we are doing -- we have done in the past, a lot of consolidation and efficiency work, and we continue to do that throughout the company.

But to give you say, we will achieve X percent by X date, I don't want to put a number like that out there.

Mark Fitzgibbon

Okay. And then, Rob, just to clarify on your point about the loan-loss provision in the second half of the year.

I think your provision in the first half of the year was $4.4 million, should we assume that it's going to be lower than that in the second half for the year, based on your comments on asset quality?

Robert Cozzone

No, I wouldn't assume that it would be lower, Mark. It's going to be lower than our original guidance, which was $10 million to $14 million, but should be fairly consistent with this quarter.

Mark Fitzgibbon

Okay. And then the last question.

Chris, I wondered if you could just share with us what you're seeing out there on the M&A front? You've been successful recently in doing a few small bank acquisitions.

Do you sense that there are a lot of other transactions out there, and are you optimistic on your ability to do more in coming quarters?

Christopher Oddleifson

Mark, you know how I can and cannot answer that question. But I will say, the -- I will make this observation that a number of publicly traded firms in our area over the last decade has diminished pretty dramatically, so now there's just a handful of independent kind of stock traded banks, making now the sort of M&A sort of more of a -- what I'd call a random event.

It ain't any sort of trend. So we could see some or we could not, I mean, it sort of depends.

Sort of what -- it depends on the mood of the board, their boards. I guess the important thing is that, we're a proven, successful acquirer, integrator.

We deliver what we say we deliver to the acquiree shareholders, and we hope that when board has decided they'd like to look at the strategic auctions, that we'll be a -- on the short consideration list.

Operator

Our next question comes from Matthew Kelley with Sterne Agee.

Matthew Kelley

I was wondering if you can just talk about how much you've seen commercial loan yields improve, particularly with the pipeline yields for commercial real estate? I think that's the area that most have been anticipating, obviously a pretty significant improvement in yields, given the uptick in rates.

What have you seen?

Robert Cozzone

Well, Matt, we typically don't get into specific pricing, as we think that can cause a threat competitively. I will tell you that, as we mentioned, we're not seeing the smaller institutions in our footprint react to the increase in rates yet, especially in regard to commercial loans, which is why we're finding it more difficult to get some of these loans to closing, the smaller institutions are extremely competitive and they seem to be less inclined to adjust their rates when market rates increase.

Christopher Oddleifson

And the 5 year has gone from what, 60 …

Robert Cozzone

The 5 year's gone from just over 60 points to 160 basis points, which -- and the swap has done the same, which is where many of those medium-term commercial real estate deals you would expect to price off of. However, we do expect our new volume yields to gradually increase in commercial.

Matthew Kelley

Okay. Got you.

Then on your securities portfolio, if the intermediate- and longer-term parts of the yield curve, the treasury yield curves hold where they are right now, do you think you can kind of put a bottom here in the securities yield at 2.60, 2.75?

Robert Cozzone

Yes I think that's fair to say. Might be a couple more basis points of decline.

But should these yields hold, that should be true.

Matthew Kelley

Okay. Got you.

And then in your mortgage banking business, you said you outsource that, so there'll be a commensurate decline in any type of expenses there you can kind of -- you don't have any issues with negative operating leverages, as revenues come down in that business?

Christopher Oddleifson

That's right.

Robert Cozzone

We now have minimal fixed expense associated with that operation.

Matthew Kelley

Got you. And where did the pipelines end there for loans originated for sale?

What's the outlook, and what you've seen just the last couple of weeks?

Robert Cozzone

Obviously it's down, certainly nationally it's down meaningfully. But just keep in mind, the mortgage production operation contributes very little to our bottom line, so we are fairly insensitive to what happens with mortgage production, especially now with the outsourcing.

Matthew Kelley

Okay. And last question, just looked through your 10-Q, and a parallel shift up 200 basis points results in NII up 3.5% is what you displayed in the March 31, 10-Q.

What about kind of the type of bear steepening that was seen with the long end moving higher, so a steepening of the yield curve. How does that impact projected NII?

What magnitude of improvement beyond the 3.5% would you expect?

Robert Cozzone

Yes, I mentioned in my comments, Matt, that for this year, we wouldn't expect significant improvement as a result of the shift, because obviously, it takes time for those cash flows to reprice. But next year, on a static balance sheet, we would anticipate 2% to 2.5% improvement in net interest income, as a result of the shift that has already taken place.

Operator

Our next question comes from David Darst with Guggenheim Securities.

David Darst

Chris, could you may be talk about a few more items that are on your list to invest in and kind of how that might impact the cost structure? I mean I guess marketing was up this quarter, you've talked about the Boston wealth management office.

Is there anything else, or should we think about these as…

Christopher Oddleifson

Yes, I think the – we've added – we're adding seasoned commercial lenders. We've added business development and the folks at the smaller business level.

We have a full complement of very large, relatively speaking, business development group in our investment management group, I think there are about 14 of them altogether, which is significant, which has really yielded some great results. We've taken that business from losing money to making meaningful contribution to the bottom line.

We have -- contemplating, and we'll talk to the Boston office and we are evaluating how to think about our branch network, both on the trimming side and the expansion side, and sort of how do we want to optimize that. There are a few more examples.

David Darst

Okay. Then, Rob, as you were discussing the margin in the steeper curve, you're thinking about just maybe one more quarter of compression before you begin to see the stabilization and improvement?

Robert Cozzone

I think we'll continue to compress the remainder of this year, but it should be fairly limited. As you know, a high proportion of our loans tied to the shorter end, however our investment portfolio, our fixed commercial real estate portfolio, our residential real estate portfolio will benefit from this increase in the middle part of the curve.

David Darst

Okay. What percentage of loans are tied to the short end of the curve?

Robert Cozzone

Might take me a minute to get that, David, if you have another question you can ask?

David Darst

No, I think that's it, I think we've covered everything.

Robert Cozzone

Yes, I might have to get back to you on that, David.

Christopher Oddleifson

We'll continue to sort of look forward, as we try and answer some other questions, we may answer it later in the call or we may get back to you.

Operator

Our next question comes from Collyn Gilbert with KBW.

Collyn Gilbert

First question I guess, Rob, maybe you could address it. It's just the jump in cash this quarter, sort of what facilitated that, and what you anticipate the uses of that cash to be, maybe in the next quarter?

And I guess my thought would be that, that would be a positive impact to the NIM going forward, but perhaps not. So if you could just give a little bit more color around that.

Christopher Oddleifson

No, Collyn, this should be a positive impact to the NIM. However, a large portion of that increase in cash comes from our municipal business, where we get influxes of deposits at the end of the quarter.

So some of that will not be maintained, but certainly a portion of it will, and a portion of it, we will likely deploy into investments.

Collyn Gilbert

Okay. And then, what percent of your sort of investment and trust revenues are tied to market values?

Christopher Oddleifson

On our investment management business?

Collyn Gilbert

Yes, yes.

Christopher Oddleifson

I would say the vast majority of the revenues in our investment management group are a function of the fees associated with the level of assets in our customer accounts. I mean, we do have some tax prep fees, especially in the second quarter and a few other fees.

But that's it. We're looking at the – I'm going to get the details right here.

I think -- so that – yes. The vast majority.

So if we were to – if the market were to chop up 25%, you'd see a material increase in our revenue and likewise account side.

Collyn Gilbert

Okay. Is there a bit of a lag in terms of when those…

Christopher Oddleifson

Those fees are charged on a monthly – gosh is it monthly or quarterly? I believe it's a monthly basis to the account, based on the asset levels at the end of the month.

So it would be pretty – there would not be a lag.

Collyn Gilbert

Pretty immediate. Okay, got it.

That's helpful. Okay.

Then you may -- I don't know if you guys addressed it and I apologize, the drop in compensation expense this quarter, what was driving that?

Christopher Oddleifson

That's due to the…

Collyn Gilbert

Just a seasonal change in payroll? Okay.

Christopher Oddleifson

Payroll tax associated with the incentive payouts in the first quarter.

Robert Cozzone

There's also a shift, we outsourced our mortgage operations, so we had a decline there as well.

Collyn Gilbert

Okay, that's helpful. And Rob, I know you said that for competitive purposes, you generally don't offer what the pricing you're seeing on your loan segments is, but what is, of all your lending buckets, where are you seeing the best pricing, and what's giving you kind of the best yield at this point?

Robert Cozzone

Yes, it's funny, and you probably wouldn't expect it, but it's actually on the larger deals, where the larger institutions are adhering to pricing discipline. It's really the deals that are $5 million and less where the small banks compete, where we're seeing irrational pricing.

But as you go upmarket, the larger banks seem to be pricing off of market rates, and so we're seeing better pricing there.

Robert Cozzone

Just to get back to David Darst's question regarding short loading assets, we have approximately $1.8 million of our loan portfolio, primarily made up of commercial loans and home equity lines that are tied to either LIBOR or prime.

Christopher Oddleifson

That was $1.8 billion.

Robert Cozzone

Correct, billion, sorry.

Christopher Oddleifson

$1.8 billion, right, okay. Chad, are there any more questions?

Operator

[Operator Instructions]. Our next question comes from Bernard Horn with Polaris Capital.

Bernard Horn

Just a quick question again on loan growth. So I know in response to Mark's question, looks like the pipeline is reasonably flat, and I think in Matt's question, you talked about commercial being somewhat competitive from the small banks, but probably not seeing a lot of reductions.

So I think that in terms of the guidance going forward being a little bit lower, it looks like the residential loan portfolio is where you're seeing most of the prepayments coming through, and I'm wondering if you can just give us some sense for the -- like the term structure or the yield structure of your in-house portfolio? Is it consisting a lot of variable rate, fixed rate, and kind of what sort of exposure do you have to a lot more prepayments?

Christopher Oddleifson

Yes, just Rob can answer that, but Bernard I wanted -- the pipeline is actually quite strong in commercial, relatively speaking. I think you characterized it as flat.

Bernard Horn

Well, I thought it was flat quarter-to-quarter?

Christopher Oddleifson

No, it's actually up 60% or so.

Robert Cozzone

The commercial pipeline. The residential pipeline is flat, quarter-to-quarter.

Bernard Horn

So 260 and 70 respectively I think it was?

Robert Cozzone

That's right. Commercial was about 180 last quarter, so up meaningfully.

Bernard Horn

Yes. So that would -- so my sense would be that maybe you're -- either you're being modest, or that there's a lot of prepayment exposure on the residential, in order for your guidance to be 1% to 2% loan growth?

Robert Cozzone

Yes, actually -- it's actually not the case that we expect the prepayments in the residential portfolio to continue to increase, it's in the commercial portfolio where we're seeing stiff competition as it relates to commercial credit, and again, it's especially from smaller institutions. And last year, we looked at about $1.9 billion in credits in commercial, and we closed to $900 million.

Year-to-date, we've looked at, I think almost $1 billion and have only closed about $300 million. So our pull through on commercial has declined and we're also seeing both pay outs and pay downs.

Some of the pay downs are lines that are remaining open, but it's companies that have excess cash, and are choosing to use that cash to pay down their lines of credit.

Bernard Horn

Okay. But are you seeing – so the -- even though the pipeline is up strongly, then it sounds like you're still expecting to be -- to see a fair amount of essentially offsetting pay offs and pay downs for total loans to be up 1% to 2% for the second half, if I'm getting that right?

Robert Cozzone

That's correct.

Christopher Oddleifson

One of the advantages we have with such a substantial commercial relationship and bankers out in the field is that we're able to look at a lot of the deals and we have a lot of looks. And we're able to then work and take the deals that fit our pricing expectations, and hope – let the rest go to the folks who don't have the pricing discipline we have right now.

We expect that the smaller banks over time are going to catch up. I mean, this is not a permanent phenomenon.

Rates have sort of rocketed up, and they don't have the sort of sophistication I think that the bigger banks do like us. So hopefully, we're not going to be looking at this for too long.

Bernard Horn

Right. And then just on capital, with the new guidance from FDIC and so forth, are you -- obviously you've got some balance sheet growth through the acquisitions.

Any other thoughts on capital or where that's going or how you might deploy that going forward?

Robert Cozzone

Yes, well it was all positive news for us. As you know, being under $15 billion, the areas that we were concerned about is that the trust preferred, that being eliminated over time.

The other comprehensive income on the mark-to-market, on your available for sale, on your cash flow hedges having to flow through regulatory capital. We have the opportunity to opt out of that.

And risk weighting of residential loans was positive as well. So we're feeling even more comfortable than we already did about our capital position, and don't have any plans at the moment to change anything structurally.

Bernard Horn

Okay. So with 9 plus percent of leverage ratio, you should either be able to do stock buybacks, which I'm not saying you should do, I'm just asking that or the tradeoff between just continuing to grow the balance sheet through M&A or -- because loan growth doesn't sound like it's going to be able to grow the balance sheet enough to drop the capital ratio/

Robert Cozzone

Yes certainly, we prefer the latter, continue to grow.

Operator

There appears to be no further questions at this time. So I'd like to turn the conference back over to management for any closing remarks.

Christopher Oddleifson

Great. Thank you, Chad, and thank you, everybody, for joining us this quarter.

We look forward to giving you another update in 3 months. Have a good summer.

Bye.

Operator

Thank you very much. The conference has now concluded.

Thank you for attending today's conference. You may now disconnect.