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Q1 2025 · Earnings Call Transcript

May 10, 2025

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Aritz Larrea

Thank you very much. Good morning, everyone, and welcome to the first quarter presentation for Loomis.

My name is Aritz Larrea, and I'm the CEO of Loomis. And with me here today, I have our CFO, Johan Wilsby; and Jenny Bostrom, our Head of Sustainability and Investor Relations.

I'll start by providing a quick summary of our Q1 performance before taking questions. Let's start the presentation by turning to Slide 2.

Loomis had a solid start to the year with organic revenue growth of 4.4% in the first quarter. We achieved revenues above SEK7.6 billion, with growth across our 3 reporting segments.

Notably, our International business line performed exceptionally well, and we also saw double-digit growth in our Automated Solutions and FX business lines. Acquisitions had a limited impact on total growth, while currency effects had a slight positive impact.

A favorable business mix and increased efficiency resulted in an improved operating margin of 11.6%, up from 10.4% in the prior year. We have successfully grown the business while reducing our employee count, supporting this margin expansion.

Our operating cash flow this quarter was exceptionally strong. In the first quarter, operating cash flow represented 112% of our EBITA.

And over the past 12 months, our cash conversion reached 124%. This performance was driven by improvements in working capital, optimized capital expenditures and higher EBITA.

Our robust cash conversion enables us to invest in our business and distribute return to our shareholders. As we announced yesterday, we have signed an agreement to acquire Burroughs in the U.S.

The company offers digital and on-site first and second-line maintenance services for, among others, ATMs, smart safes and kiosks. I will present the acquisition in more detail later in the presentation.

Our capital allocation priorities remained focused on generating returns. This includes investing in our business, distributing 40% to 60% of our net income to shareholders annually through dividends and making value-driving acquisitions.

We will also continue to distribute additional funds to shareholders through share repurchases. Yesterday, the Annual General Meeting approved the Board's proposal for a dividend of SEK14 per share, totaling a record SEK 959 million to be distributed to shareholders in May.

The AGM also decided to cancel 2.5 million of the repurchased treasury shares. Following this cancellation, the total number of shares in Loomis is 68.5 million.

Additionally, the Board of Directors announced the decision to repurchase additional shares for up to a value of SEK200 million during the second quarter. Now let's turn to the next page and address our reporting segments, beginning with Europe and Latin America.

Our European and Latin America segments had a mixed start to the year with overall revenue increasing to SEK3.6 billion, reflecting organic growth of 4.1%. Our International business line delivered a strong performance this quarter, driven by speculation around tariffs.

However, revenue from Automated Solutions declined slightly compared to the prior year as we're comparing it to exceptionally strong performance from CIMA during the same period last year. Changes in exchange rates negatively impacted our total growth.

While our exports plans for CIMA to the U.S. have been temporarily paused due to ongoing uncertainties, we remain confident in the long-term potential of this growth initiative.

Despite the challenging macroeconomic climate that has affected consumer spending and cash circulation, we increased our operating margin to 9.3%, up from 8.8%. This improvement reflects our continued focus on profitability.

We have taken actions for operational efficiency within our European segment and continue to execute on our communicated review of the European and Latin American portfolio, which is why you see restructuring charges in the quarter. You can expect slightly higher cost of restructuring in 2025 as in 2024.

Let's turn to the next page over to the U.S. The U.S.

segment delivered another strong quarter, reporting record revenues exceeding $4 billion with growth across most business lines. Organic growth reached 4.9%, driven primarily by both volume increases.

This strong performance was driven by several key factors. Most business lines grew compared to the previous year, except for ATM, which was flat year-over-year.

High demand for cross-border valuables transportation and storage within International business line has had a positive impact on the growth in the quarter. The Automated Solutions business, including SafePoint, achieved double-digit growth for yet another consecutive quarter, and we continue to see a robust pipeline ahead.

The volume growth within the Automated Solutions and International business lines, combined with the previously implemented efficiency programs within CIT and CMS led to a record high operating income of SEK679 million and a strong operating margin of 16.6%. These programs have resulted in higher service quality, allowing the segment to capture higher volumes without increased staffing needs.

Let's turn to the next page and talk about our new reporting segment, SME/Pay. As of the first quarter, the segment Loomis Pay has been renamed segment SME/Pay and in addition to revenues from Loomis Pay also include revenue within other business lines from new small and medium-sized enterprise customers.

Even in a more digital world, cash remains essential, especially for underserved communities. We are committed to maintaining strong cash infrastructure while also expanding digital solutions.

By combining both, we help small and medium businesses accept cash and embrace digital tools. Our new reporting segment reflects our growth ambition with our bundled solutions.

Revenue from the digital payments of Loomis Pay continues to be reported as the Loomis Pay business line, while cash-related revenue from the bundled solution is reported into either CIT, CMS or Automated Solutions. Revenue for the quarter amounted to SEK30 million, and we saw solid revenue growth with increased transaction volumes within the Loomis Pay business line compared to Q1 2024.

We're still in early stages and digital payments within the Loomis Pay business line stand for most of the segment's revenue. However, I'm confident that we will continue to see growth from our cash-related business lines as well as we advance with our bundled solutions.

Now, let's move on to the next slide, where I will share a few highlights on our progress with our sustainability initiatives. Our sustainability-related initiatives are progressing well.

Throughout 2024, we have been preparing the organization for the Corporate Sustainability Reporting Directive. We published our CSRD inspired report at the beginning of April and continue to strengthen our sustainability reporting with the ambition to being the leading sustainable partner in our industry.

One of our key initiatives is reducing emissions from our vehicle fleet. Following a successful pilot program, we have committed to fully transitioning our entire fleet in the region in France to HVO biofuel.

By switching to HVO, we will reduce our Scope 1 emissions without needing to replace our existing fleet of armored vehicles. This change is also beneficial from a resource efficiency and Scope 3 perspective.

We will continue to look for similar solutions in other regions as well. I'm also proud to announce that this quarter, we have adopted the United Nations Women's Empowerment Principles.

This reaffirms our commitment to promoting gender equality in our industry and providing an inclusive work environment. I firmly believe that empowering our employees is not just important, it is essential.

This commitment applies to all employees at Loomis. We are dedicated to fostering an environment where ambition is met with opportunity, ensuring equal support, recognition and pathways for growth for all employees at every level of our organization.

Now, let's move on to the income statement slide, where I will start by highlighting our revenue growth. The growth for the quarter was very solid with increases across all segments.

However, as mentioned earlier, performance varied among the different business lines. We have costs classified as items affecting comparability in the quarter, which relate to the ongoing restructuring in Europe and Latin America.

We can see that the financial net has declined slightly compared to the previous year. And our financial expenses have decreased because of declining interest rates and the monetary losses from hyperinflationary economies are lower in the quarter compared to the same period in the previous year.

It is worth reminding you that while most of our financing has variable rates, our leasing liabilities tend to have fixed interest rates. Moving on to the next slide.

I just wanted to highlight our performance in relation to our history. Since the onset of COVID, we have consistently maintained strong financial performance, continuing the positive trajectory established before the pandemic.

We have a stable and resilient business model that has proven its strength over time. On a rolling 12-month basis, we generated over SEK30 billion in revenue and achieved an operating margin of 12.2%.

Looking ahead, we will continue to drive our growth by prioritizing recurring revenues and increasing margins through a structured approach to gain operational efficiencies. This is why we are taking decisive action to restructure the business, ensuring we are well positioned for the future.

Our organization has a proven track record of efficiently managing macro challenges by leveraging our robust risk management and decision-making processes. Our current assessment is that our core business remains unaffected by the introduction of tariffs.

Ahead of the announced tariffs, we experienced a surge in demand for our cross-border logistics and storage solutions for gold and precious metals. Given recent developments and the uncertainty surrounding tariff implementation, it is difficult to predict how this situation will develop over time, but we expect these flows to be of onetime in character.

Before I open up for Q&A, I'm pleased to share more information on our announced acquisition of Burroughs. The acquisition aligns with our strategy to grow our business through value-adding acquisitions that strengthen our services surrounding our ATM and Automated Solutions.

Burroughs delivers comprehensive services across a wide range of device types in the U.S. and Canada.

The company is a manufacturing agnostic, ensuring that its solutions and services are adaptable to various types of ATMs, Automated Solutions and kiosks. The acquisition of Burroughs strengthens our ability to provide first and second-line maintenance in the U.S.

market. With a total workforce of approximately 600 employees, of which the majority are service technicians, Burroughs established itself as a leading player in the industry across the U.S.

and Canada. In 2024, the company reported revenues of $107 million.

Together, we will offer comprehensive full-service solutions within ATM and Automated Solutions. This will enable us to provide more services to existing customers and expand our addressable market, thereby capturing a higher market share.

We have cross-selling opportunities and by leveraging our combined customer base and also gaining better control of the service supply chain, we position ourselves for profitable growth. Our adjacent services have been instrumental in our growth journey, and we are committed to continuing this trajectory, and I'm confident in our business and our journey ahead.

With that, I'm done with my summary of the first quarter. So let's turn to Q&A.

Operator, we are now open to questions, please.

Operator

[Operator Instructions] The first question comes from Simon Jonsson from ABG Sundal Collier.

Simon Jonsson

So I have a few questions on the report and then a bit on the acquisition. So first here for the U.S., I just wonder if you view the strength in Q1 as any kind of one-off.

I know you mentioned International that had an impact, for example. So the question is, was that material in any way?

And otherwise, should we view it as you have sort of taken another step-up in margins here in the U.S.

Aritz Larrea

Simon, it's not a one-off. Just consider that International for the U.S.

market represents like 4% of the revenue. So it did have a positive impact, but it's a step-up, as you're saying.

Simon Jonsson

Turning to Europe. I think it was a bit softer than expected on the margin side, and you also call it mixed performance.

Can you give us an update on how the restructuring initiatives are progressing? I think you launched the plan back in 2023, if I'm right.

And you said last year that there is more to do. And now you say that you expect higher restructuring costs this year compared to last.

So where would you say you are today compared to when you started? And how much is realized and how much is still potential, would you say?

Aritz Larrea

Yes. So the first thing we need to consider here is that the first quarter in Europe and LatAm is seasonality-wise weakest quarter.

So when you compare it to Q1 2024, our margin is actually up in 0.5 percentage points. We had 1 less working day in 2025 compared to 2024, and we're in the middle of price negotiations still, which is a gradual process.

I think that in many markets, I mean, Q1 was affected by weaker consumer confidence, and we also had the tariff thing impacting on the CIMA exports to the U.S. aside from comparing to a strong Q1 2024 of CIMA last year.

When it comes to restructuring, we -- it's an ongoing process. I mean, we've mentioned this in the past.

We talked about Germany. We had issues there in the past with the changes in management, then we had strikes at the end of the year.

So now we are actually capable of executing the plans that we have, and so far, so good. So we will continue adapting the structure of our countries to the new normal business, so no changes there.

Simon Jonsson

But is it fair to assume that you are sort of struggling with some of the same initiatives. Of course, you've also identified new potential initiatives.

But is that all that you are --

Aritz Larrea

Sorry, I wouldn't say struggling. It's just that some of them have been delayed, that's all.

Simon Jonsson

But you have also identified some more savings opportunities, is that correct?

Aritz Larrea

Yes, that's correct.

Simon Jonsson

And it's nice to see also that you kept your word on, we should see more about buybacks and M&A here before the summer that you delivered on yesterday. But on Boroughs, I mean, you haven't shared any historical performance for the company as -- what I can see at least.

But has the company had solid growth historically or is it more stable? Or can you give us any flavors on that?

Aritz Larrea

Historically, they have had a very solid growth, and they're in the middle now of a transition to traditional services, to more the digital and remote services. And I think there's a huge opportunity there to keep growing the business, especially bundled with the ATM services that we provide today.

Simon Jonsson

And when you talk about bundling and all that, is it that you want to create new services? Or can you see that you have some overlaps already that you can make savings from?

Or what -- how should we view that? And what is the underlying rationale?

Aritz Larrea

We have overlaps already, but the acquisition of Burroughs, I think the main thing is that it strengthens Loomis' ability to provide first and second line maintenance to our customers and to future new customers as well.

Simon Jonsson

So mainly new services to existing customers, is that correct?

Aritz Larrea

Yes.

Simon Jonsson

And in terms of margins, it looks to be dilutive on group level here, at least initially. Over time, do you think it could be accretive or should --

Aritz Larrea

Over time, we are sure that it's going to be margin accretive.

Operator

The next question comes from Suhasini Varanasi from Goldman Sachs.

Suhasini Varanasi

I just have one, please. I think you mentioned that the exports of CIMA to the U.S.

are being affected by tariffs. Can you maybe help us understand what your original plan was for using CIMA in the U.S.

and how that's changing today maybe in terms of growth or margin prospects?

Aritz Larrea

Yes. I think we mentioned about this in the past that, originally, in the U.S., we had 2 main providers for our Automated Solutions and those 2 providers were acquired by a competitor in the U.S.

So looking for that BCP plan is when we acquired the CIMA in Italy. With the increased tariffs, I mean, the price of the goods being exported from Italy to the U.S.

was goods were going to be more expensive. That makes you less competitive.

We're waiting to see where that is going to end and then adjust our pricing to the current market in the U.S. Originally, we're starting with the recyclers solution in the U.S., but we're also planning on exporting SafePoint to the U.S., CIMA SafePoint.

Suhasini Varanasi

And you don't see -- if tariffs persist for longer or for the next, I don't know, 1 year, 12 months, we don't know how long it's going to last, right? Does that have any implications to your growth or profitability of SafePoints in the U.S.?

Aritz Larrea

No, we would just have to adjust our cost and adapt to them, so it won't be an impact. There won't be an impact.

Operator

The next question comes from Viktor Lindeberg from Carnegie.

Viktor Lindeberg

Following up on the CIMA U.S. question here.

Can you quantify approximately how much of the revenue in Europe or SafePoint Europe that relates to the CIMA sales?

Johan Wilsby

Not really. At this moment, we've just delayed the start of that export initiative.

Aritz Larrea

I think, Victor, I think that the main impact in Europe has been, first of all, the 1 less working day that we had. And then I mean, when you look at the comps versus prior year, I think CIMA had an exceptionally strong Q1 last year, as I mentioned.

Viktor Lindeberg

On Europe, looking at the items affecting comparability now being a bit on the high relative to my expectations, you mentioned Sweden, Germany and also France. I think Sweden, we can relate to that you have a contract expiration in a couple of months.

Germany has been ongoing for quite some time. And just to understand, given the revenue scope of that business, it must be quite dramatic costs that you have taken out and continue to take out.

So can you just help us understand what are you doing in Germany and maybe any flavor on Sweden?

Aritz Larrea

Sure. So starting with Germany, Victor.

I mean, we had -- initially when we announced that we were going to start restructuring plans there, we had management issues with the changes in management at the beginning, and that delayed the whole program, the whole plan. After that, if you remember, end of last year, all the industry had a strike issue at the end of the year.

And that also delayed our restructuring plans. I think we're now in full speed on the plans there, and we will start seeing the benefits of that moving forward.

Sweden, as you said, it's one customer. I mean, just bear in mind that Sweden as a whole represents 3% of the total revenue, so that doesn't have a huge impact on us.

And then when we talk about France, I mean, we've got 3 French banking groups that they are going to start to roll out their shared cash machines in rural areas to better serve places that don't have any other ATM options. So this will mean that the number of ATMs will reduce.

And as a result of that and change in the market, we need to adapt to all that.

Viktor Lindeberg

And that last part on France must be a quite meaningful portion then of your total one-off cost in this quarter? And can you adjust your cost base structurally to this change, the number of ATMs in the market?

Or is this something we need to be mindful of that this is a one-way road with ATMs out there being in a shrinking mode going forward so that you will have to take gradual grips in France as we go then?

Aritz Larrea

So 2 questions. First one is, yes, France is the majority of the IAC, that's one, and then take for granted that we can adjust the cost accordingly.

Viktor Lindeberg

Looking at the Spanish power outage effect now a couple of days, weeks ago, it did change cash behavior quite dramatically, and you also commented on that. And do you -- is it too early to say.

But do you see any structural client behavior changes here? Or is this going to be a bit of a temporary boost going into Q2 now with Spain as maybe benefiting a bit from this?

Or was this just a one-off in your book?

Aritz Larrea

I think it's still early stages to talk about that. What I can say is that the recent blackout in Spain highlights the critical importance of preserving cash as part of the country's essential infrastructure.

I do think it will change a little bit the behavior on the population and people are more aware on how important cash is. I was there when all this happened, and you could see -- you could see that cash was the only thing working out there.

Viktor Lindeberg

I have a couple of questions on Burroughs as well, but I can come back in the call and get back in the queue for now.

Aritz Larrea

Okay. Thank you, Viktor.

Operator

[Operator Instructions] The next question comes from Bonnevier from DNB.

Karl-Johan Bonnevier

Just a couple of questions on Burroughs, if I may. Could you give us some sort of baseline for where that company comes in from a profit point of view?

And I also see that you have quite a huge potential earnout in that transaction. What are the milestones that need to be met for that payout?

Aritz Larrea

Just try to clarify things a little bit. What I can tell you is that, if you include that earnout and achieve that earnout, that will bring the multiples down.

It will be way lower than 6.5.

Karl-Johan Bonnevier

And what kind of game plan is it that needs to be executed to do that?

Aritz Larrea

I mean it's -- I talked about the transition plans that they have to more remote services, but you need to look into the combination together with Loomis and the cross-selling that's going to take place there.

Karl-Johan Bonnevier

And just on the tariff thing and then, when you look at the CIMA effect or potential effects on Automated Solutions, is that something that you were planning for in 2026 and 2025 was going to be a transition year where you phased out the old supplier? Or how should we see it, so given that you're also talking about a very encouraging pipeline there?

Johan Wilsby

One thing that needs to be clear, KJ, and that is we're not phasing out the actual supplier. We're just having secondary suppliers.

We've always had -- that was our intention to have a BCP solution in the U.S. That's the first thing.

The second thing is, I mean, obviously, it's early stages. We identified the needs that the U.S.

team had regarding Automated Solutions, and we fabricated a plan that was going to start in 2025.

Karl-Johan Bonnevier

Looking forward to see the execution on Burroughs. That sounds so interesting if you can reach that full payout, and all the best out there.

Johan Wilsby

Thank you, very much KJ. Thank you.

Operator

[Operator Instructions] The next question comes from Viktor Lindeberg from Carnegie.

Viktor Lindeberg

And following up on the Burroughs acquisition. I think you had -- you mentioned 10% EBITDA margins implicitly on this business last year, and that's quite a bit lower than Loomis Group.

But can you share the EBITA margin as of last year or at least a proxy so that we can model something for 2025, 2026? And in addition to that, you mentioned that you expect this to be accretive to margins.

So just curious to see how this can be? Is it a very different D&A profile, so depreciation and amortization profile?

Or is it simply taking out costs in having cost overlaps with your existing operation, starting there.

Johan Wilsby

So, let me start on those questions and maybe Aritz want to complement. In terms of D&A, if you look historically, they've been running at somewhere between 5% and 6% of sales.

And obviously, when you look at how we will drive margins upwards, you need to start out and think about that we have a very strong organization in the U.S. which are ready to take on acquisitions and how they collaborate and drive new additional business through cross-selling, how we bring things on the inside now with maintenance work, opportunities and different kinds of addressable markets.

And then on top of that, you, obviously, have the normal synergy opportunities if you think about supporting functions and so forth. So that's how we think about going forward with this.

Aritz Larrea

Let me just add one thing, Viktor. I think it's important to understand that we are a Burroughs customer today directly and also indirectly.

And there's some cost overlaps there that we would need to solve.

Viktor Lindeberg

And just curious on that, the synergies, as you mentioned, you're a client. So I guess you may also have some -- are there dissynergies here in light of who else they serve in the market?

Or is it simply just upside opportunity on cross-selling? I.e.

that you already served your own internal, call it, existing client base, and now you will replace that.

Johan Wilsby

I think it's both. I think it's both of them.

So we got those cost overlaps by being a direct customer or indirect customer as well. But at the same time, the cross-selling gives us huge opportunities on selling a bundled solution to our actual customers and Burroughs' actual customers as well that might not be our customers today.

Aritz Larrea

And fundamentally, we get a better control of the service supply as well, as well as maintenance.

Johan Wilsby

Yes.

Viktor Lindeberg

And 2 final questions on Burroughs. Who is selling the company?

And can you share any bigger clients of Burroughs by name?

Johan Wilsby

It's a private equity. We don't want to disclose more details.

And the main customers are, obviously, big banks, IABs and retailers with the Automated Solutions.

Aritz Larrea

And then manufacturers.

Johan Wilsby

And manufacturers, sorry, yes.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, that was the last question. I would now like to turn the conference back over to Aritz Larrea for any closing remarks.

Aritz Larrea

Thank you very much for listening in. Please reach out if you have any follow-up questions.

Bye-bye.