Nickel Industries Limited

Nickel Industries Limited

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Q2 FY2025 · Earnings Call TranscriptJuly 30, 2025

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Operator

Thank you for standing by, and welcome to the Nickel Industries Limited June quarter activities webcast. [Operator Instructions] I would now like to hand the conference over to Mr.

Justin Werner, Managing Director. Please go ahead.

Justin Charles Werner

Thank you, everyone, for your attendance today, and welcome to the Nickel Industries June quarter results presentation. If I can ask the moderator just to turn to the next slide, please.

Starting with safety and sustainability. LTIFR, at the end of June was 0.05, with no lost time injuries recorded during the quarter, against 4.6 million work hours registered.

For the 12 months to 30 June, 18.6 million work hours have been registered with only a single LTI occurring. The company-wide 12-month rolling TRIFR at the end of June was 1.29.

We were pleased during the quarter to release our 2024 sustainability report as we move towards alignment with IFRS Sustainability Disclosure Standards and the Australian Accounting Standards Board Guidance. Some of the highlights from the sustainability report were the formal establishment of the Nickel Industries Foundation, which is a big milestone for the company.

That will allow us to further embed some of the programs that we have now engaged in, in terms of education, health, environmental conservation in and around the communities in which we operate and also the establishment of a biodiversity area. So we're one of a very small number of mines that have successfully been able to establish a biodiversity in close proximity to our mining area.

If we could just go to the next slide, please. June quarter, another solid quarter at USD 86 million of adjusted EBITDA from operations.

That brings our first half unaudited adjusted EBITDA to USD 183.6 million, and that's a material outperformance versus the first half of 2024. RKEF nickel metal production was 30,463 tonnes, slightly lower than the March quarter.

And EBITDA was also lower than the March quarter, and that was impacted by some -- the realignment of some kilns and power station maintenance, which I'll touch on later in the presentation. HPAL production from HNC was 2,075 tonnes of nickel.

So it continues to operate well above nameplate capacity. It was 38% for the June quarter.

EBITDA was down, was USD 10.8 million. So it was materially lower than the March quarter, but there is a number of reasons for that, which we will explain further on in the presentation.

The actual EBIT -- HNC EBITDA outside of Tsing Creation, the trading company, was actually up 11%. And and that was due to higher MHP prices.

So payabilities for MHP are close to 90% at the moment. And that offset higher operating costs due to higher input costs from sulfur.

Tsing Creation, which is the trading division, which I mentioned, that was really where the impact on the EBITDA came from. And that was due to a delay in sales because of the intended commissioning of the ENC cathode plant, which we made the decision not to continue with and also just some delays in final contract settlement.

So we expect that to catch up over the next few months. But pleasingly, margins remain very strong, over $6,000 a tonne.

Pleased to report record ore sales from the Hengjaya Mine of over 3 million wet metric tonnes and EBITDA of USD 41.4 million. So that was a material increase on the March quarter, 33% higher and much stronger EBITDA per tonne margins.

So they've risen 25%, and they're now currently sitting at USD 13.7 a wet metric tonne. If we could just go to the next slide, please.

RKEF production, as I mentioned, decreased 4%. Predominantly, that was the realignment of two kilns at ONI and that work was completed sequentially across April and May.

And then maintenance at the ANI and ONI power plants. ONI has been completed, and the ANI maintenance is expected to be completed at the end of July.

The lower production and the increased power costs as the power stations were down for maintenance, led to an increase in cost. NPI pricing remained stable, $11,449, slightly higher than the previous quarter.

Whilst EBITDA is down $10.6 million, so $44.3 million in the first quarter to $33.7 million. We actually picked that up at the Hengjaya Mine.

So Hengjaya Mine EBITDA was up $10.4 million. And this really goes to highlighting the benefit of having an integrated operation and the movement of margins across the value chain.

If we could just go to the next slide, please. HNC, over 20,000 tonnes of nickel was produced and 1,877 tonnes of cobalt.

So again, as I mentioned, continues to outperform versus nameplate. Operating costs did increase due to higher sulfur costs, but I mentioned payabilities for MHP also increased.

In terms of the EBITDA margin, that remains strong at $6,219. And at the operating entity of HNC, EBITDA per tonne margin has actually increased across the quarter.

So they went from $4,297 a tonne to $4,819. How we arrive at the $6,219 a tonne, that includes the trading division margin, which is Tsing Creation and that's typically averaged around sort of $1,400 a tonne.

If we could just go to the next slide, please. ENC, we were very pleased to announce post-quarter end that the integrated nickel refinery for cathode has reached a point where we could commence commissioning.

The decision was taken to defer that commissioning, and that was to better align working capital requirements but also given that the commercial sales license, which is the IUI, is not anticipated to be issued until January of next year. This -- the practice of coming into production before we have the IUI issued is what we've done previously at both ONI and ANI, but given the large draw that, that would take across a number of months, as I said that the decision was made to not commission at this point, and to really focus on completion of the remainder of the ENC project, which as you can see from the photos on the right there is progressing extremely well.

We're targeting completion of the next stage of the refinery process, which is the sulfate circuit, in Q4 of 2025. And then finally, the HPAL smelter itself to be complete at the end of this year with commissioning and then issuance of an IUI license early in the first quarter of 2026.

If we could just go to the next slide, please. Hengjaya Mine operations, as I mentioned, record sales over 3 million tonnes.

Pleasingly, the EBITDA per tonne margin rose from $10.90 to $13.70 and at the end of July -- or sorry, 28th of July, pleased to report that current mine sales for the month of July sit at 1,226,540. So we're setting ourselves up and targeting another record quarter in the September quarter of this year.

There was a slight increase in operating costs, and that was just related to an increase in royalties from 10% to 14%. And we are also opening up a new pit, which will -- is targeted to deliver us higher saprolite grade.

So again, we hope that will flow into increased EBITDA per tonne margin in the September quarter. Also pleased to announce during the quarter approval of the feasibility study to increase the Hengjaya mine RKAB from the current 9 million tonnes to 19 million tonnes.

That's the key first step in achieving that revision. We are in the -- over the course of the next week, we will be lodging our final AMDAL, which is our environmental impact study.

for approval, and we remain optimistic of receiving approval of that AMDAL in August. And then we're targeting the issuance of a revised RKAB to be completed sometime this quarter.

And given the very strong margins that we're experiencing from the Hengjaya Mine, we're looking forward to delivering a very strong second half, particularly from our Hengjaya Mine operations. Finally, if we could just move to the next slide and the -- an update on our Sampala project.

That's also progressing extremely well. We've lodged a feasibility study for an initial operation of 6 million wet metric tonnes per annum, and we remain confident of receiving that approval in this September quarter.

We have started construction of 8 kilometers of haul road. And you can see in that map there, it's the turquoise section that is predominantly with -- inside the three IUPs.

The green section in the middle there is a section that will then link us into an existing haul road that will take us all the way into IMIP. So 8 kilometers of that required 22 kilometers is already well advanced, and we're looking forward to completing that, if not at the end of -- sorry, in -- early in the fourth quarter.

We continue to expand the resource at Sampala through a very aggressive drilling campaign. We currently have 16 drill rigs on site, and we completed over 1,000 holes for the quarter.

We remain very optimistic of Sampala achieving an exploration target of in excess of 1 billion wet metric tonnes of ore. And with current margins of USD 13.7.

You can see the significant value that the Sampala project will bring to Nickel Industries. And we continue -- the development continues to go extremely well as we look forward to targeting first ore.

So in summary, another strong quarter despite some downtime for the kiln alignment and ANI and ONI power stations which did contribute to slightly reduced EBITDA. As I mentioned, the unaudited adjusted EBITDA of USD 183.6 million for the first half of this year, is a material improvement on the first half of last year.

We have some exciting catalysts coming up for the second half of this year. We continue to push the RKAB approval.

And as I mentioned, we remain very optimistic of some positive news over the coming weeks and months in terms of achieving that approval. We also -- Sampala, which we've just touched on, continue to grow the resource.

Mine development is continuing very well. And then the continued delivery of the ENC project, which is tracking extremely well.

And EBITDA margins remained strong at over USD 6,000 per tonne margin. So with that, I'll hand over to Q&A.

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Your first question comes from Richard Knights from Barrenjoey.

Richard William Knights

Just a quick one on cash flow. I mean, obviously, a good quarter from an EBITDA perspective, but your cash flow from operations was broadly neutral.

Can you just maybe just -- and it might be one for Chris, just help us out with the sort of bridge as to how we get from that EBITDA number to the neutral cash flow number?

Justin Charles Werner

Yes. Chris, do you want to take that?

Christopher Leslie Shepherd

Yes, I'll take that. Look, the main thing with that really is -- Richard, is the working capital build.

We had quite a large working capital build in the operations, particularly in the RKEF operations, Tsingshan and us saw the opportunity to really build the nickel ore inventory and coal inventories. And so the effect there in building that is you've obviously also got an issue with the cash flow, it reduces your cash flow through the period.

Richard William Knights

Okay. So you'd expect that's kind of a one-off for this quarter and will [indiscernible] over the second half of the year?

Christopher Leslie Shepherd

Yes, we'd expect that to unwind, absolutely.

Richard William Knights

Yes. Yes.

Okay. Fine.

And just another one on MHP realizations. I mean it seems like it's a pretty big move up to 90% realizations from where we were not too long ago, I think, probably closer to 70%.

Just wondering if you can give us any sort of flavor about what you're seeing in the market and what's really driving that uptick in realizations?

Justin Charles Werner

Yes. I think there is some market tightness which has being reflected in improved payabilities.

And it's also sort of offsetting a reduction in the -- a decrease in the LME price. So whilst we had -- looking back at last year, we had a higher LME price but a lower payability.

It's sort of almost kept in lockstep. As the LME price has come down, we have continued to see increased MHP payabilities, which has meant that we've seen margins remain pretty stable.

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Your next question comes from [ Chun Wai Mui ] from [ Arkkan ] Capital.

Unidentified Analyst

Can you hear me actually?

Christopher Leslie Shepherd

We can.

Unidentified Analyst

Okay. So a couple of questions from me.

So number one is I guess the delaying in the commissioning of ENC, how much does that save in terms of working capital or defer?

Christopher Leslie Shepherd

We haven't released obviously full numbers on that, [ Chun, ] that's not public, but it was significant enough for us to take that decision to not build up that working capital for 2, 3, 4 months ahead of the sales license.

Unidentified Analyst

Okay. But I guess, it relates to the -- yes, yes, yes.

But it relates to the last question that was asked, I guess, by the previous inquirer. So that -- so for example, in Q2, the working capital build was -- a lot of that was for ENC?

Christopher Leslie Shepherd

That was -- a lot more of that was working capital build at the mine for limonite inventory build. So we continue to build our limonite stockpiles, obviously, for the commissioning of ENC.

What I was referring to now with Richard's question was more around the RKEF operations and the inventory there, the nickel ore inventory and then the coal inventory for the RKEF operations. The working capital build that we're saving -- what we're talking about for saving in delaying the commissioning of ENC and particularly the cathode circuit that we're intending for July, ahead of the sales license.

That's the usual process to take MHP or to take the limonite ore, convert it to MHP and then converted to coal, to cathode and sulfate. That's several months of inventory buildup that we did not want to incur now in Q3 -- Q2, Q3, ahead of getting our sales license, which Justin has referenced in January next year.

Unidentified Analyst

Okay. I guess second question is, in the second half of this year, so what -- how much debt surface is required in terms of interest amortization for the bond?

And is there any bank debt amortization repayment requirement?

Christopher Leslie Shepherd

So we have amortized -- so interest and amortization payments were made in July of $33 million, and that's all in the banks. The -- across the bond and the bank loans.

There's another $100 million due in the remainder of the year across and that's combined banks and bond interest and amortization. That's in Q4.

The number is obviously quite large. It's quite clear that cash flow is obviously tight, and we're actively managing.

And clearly, that's one of the reasons why we're actively managing our working capital. We also remain in active discussions of various other sources of financing if that's required, obviously, depending on margins, what's required.

And when I say other sources of financing, I'm talking debt financing. We have very good relationships, I think, with our banks.

And we have seen -- we have very good support from the debt capital markets. And we do know the debt capital markets are extremely strong right now.

So we're absolutely managing all of that and in active discussions on all fronts, obviously, excluding equity raises.

Unidentified Analyst

Okay. Sorry.

So that's $100 million that includes interest, right? You said?

Christopher Leslie Shepherd

Yes.

Unidentified Analyst

And that's after the $33 million paid in July.

Christopher Leslie Shepherd

Yes.

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Your next question comes from David Coates from Bell Potter Securities.

David Coates

A couple of my questions have already been answered. But just touching on Sampala, perhaps.

But firstly, RKAB permit. So you think that should be arriving in August and you'll be able to sort of fully ramp up traction from the Hengjaya Mine in -- over the balance of the calendar year.

Is that how we should be reading that?

Justin Charles Werner

Yes. We remain optimistic of getting that approval and increase in the third quarter.

And then we're targeting -- obviously, we did 3 million for the quarter. We're at 1.2 million already for July.

So the low target would be 12 million tonnes for the year. But we are targeting significantly above that given that there's still another 6 months remaining in the year.

David Coates

Excellent. And just on Sampala, so you've obviously got a big drill program underway there, but you're also constructing that haul road.

That haul road looks like sort of, I guess, sort of final road, I guess, access to the IMIP. How far are you going to advance development of Sampala, I guess, sort of hand-in-hand with the resource drill that's going on?

And what sort of timing, I suppose, you're looking at for commencing production from Sampala with those development activities underway?

Justin Charles Werner

Yes. So we're targeting completion of the first 8 kilometers early in the fourth quarter of this year.

The remaining 14 kilometers, we're well advanced in getting a forestry permit. And as soon as we receive that forestry permit, will then be in a position to complete the remaining 14 kilometers.

Once that is complete, we're then ready for pre-stripping and to start mining given one of the advantages of the Sampala project is we're able to leverage the existing 33 kilometers of haul road that already exist into the IMIP. So we are looking sort of early in the second half of next year for first ore delivery.

Obviously, that's subject to permitting and receipt of approvals to be able to allow us to complete construction of the haul road and also to start mining.

David Coates

Cool. And finally, on that, just what does the CapEx profile look like for that over the next 9 months or 12 months rather?

Justin Charles Werner

Looking at about sort of USD 30 million remaining or less to commencement of production.

Operator

There are no further phone questions at this time. I'll now hand back to Mr.

Werner for closing remarks.

Justin Charles Werner

Thank you, everyone, again. And look, just to reiterate some very big catalysts upcoming in the second half of this year.

And so we look forward to updating the market as those come to hand. So thank you, everyone, for your attendance.

Operator

Thank you. That does conclude our conference for today.

Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.