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Q4 2025 · Earnings Call Transcript

Sep 17, 2025

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Operator

Good day, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Q4 and year-end 2025 Financial Results NanoXplore Earnings Conference Call.

[Operator Instructions] Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I would now like to hand the conference over to your speaker today, Pierre-Yves Terrisse, Vice President, Corporate Development.

Please go ahead.

Pierre-Yves Terrisse

[Foreign Language] Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining this discussion of NanoXplore financial and operating results for the fourth quarter and year-end results of fiscal 2025. The press release reporting this result was published yesterday after market close and can also be found on our website along with our financial statements and MD&A.

These documents are also available on SEDAR+. Before we begin, I'd like to remind you that today's remarks, including management's outlook and answer to questions, contain forward-looking statements.

These forward-looking statements represent our expectation as of today, September 17, 2025, and accordingly, are subject to change. Such statements are based on assumptions that may not materialize and are subject to risks and uncertainties.

Actual results may differ materially, and listeners are cautioned not to place undue reliance on these forward-looking statements. A description of the risk factors that may affect future results is contained in NanoXplore annual information form available on our corporate website and in our filings with the Canadian Securities Administrator on SEDAR+.

On the call with me this morning, we have Soroush Nazarpour, NanoXplore Chief Executive Officer; and Pedro Azevedo, our Chief Financial Officer. After remarks from Soroush and Pedro, we'll open the call to questions from financial analysts.

Let me now turn the call over to Soroush.

Soroush Nazarpour

Thank you, Pierre-Yves, and good morning to everyone joining us on the call. By now, you're all aware that I decided to step down from my CEO role at AGM.

Stay on the board thereafter and support the corporation from a technical and a strategic point of view. This decision was taken for personal reasons.

I have built this company from the ground up with the Nano team, and I'm very proud of what we have accomplished since inception. At this point, in the growth of the company, it's the right time to make this transition.

NanoXplore will, in the very near future embark on the launch of a major graphene contract, which has been a major objective from the team. My successor is inheriting a graphene market leader on a strong footing and will bring the company to its next stage of growth.

With that being said, nothing is changing until the AGM. So let's start with a quick review of the broader economic picture particularly tariffs since they continue to affect both our customers and us.

Then I will move to our recently announced sales contract and finish with some comments on capital allocation and other parts of our business. From a macro standpoint, the current U.S.

administration's trade and economic policies have been disruptive. The impact shows up directly in our customers' planning cycle and therefore, in our own visibility.

Practically, this has meant delays in some of our announced contracts and volume reduction on some of our ongoing business. As it relates to our drilling fluid customer, we have made significant progress in the quarter.

Specifically, we have completed well trials and are finalizing contract terms we should be able to discuss in the near future. This contract involves supplying our tribograph powder to a major U.S.

oil and gas company for its lubricant for both onshore and offshore drilling fluid applications. Tribograph is a high-performance carbon powder, which is being produced in our graphene production facility in Montréal.

This high-performance specialty carbon mixture is engineered particularly as lubricant additive for drilling fluids, metal working and stamping, providing superior friction reduction for protection and suspension stability. Tribograph when formulated in drilling fluids has demonstrated outstanding results in the industrial standard tribology and friction testing.

Evaluation carried out under a wide range of conditions show that our solution consistently outperformed leading alternatives currently available on the market. This product is the result of years of development and fine-tuning and has already proved its reliability and performance during demanding extended reach drilling operations in the United States.

More in-depth data collected during drilling operation has confirmed that Tribograph directly improved drilling performance. The results show faster drilling speeds, reduced rig time and lower overall operating cost.

Furthermore, there is clear evidence that tribograph reduces wear on downhole tools, helping extend equipment life and further lowering operating and maintenance expenses. Now moving on to our North Carolina expansion.

We have completed installation and commissioning of the equipment and preproduction parts have recently been shipped to our new customer. Those parts are pending final approval.

Once that comes true, we will move quickly to scale production at Statesville at the beginning of October. Stepping back, Q4 was a tough operating environment.

Revenue declined year-over-year. On the positive side, adjusted EBITDA margins improved, reflecting in part a broader adoption of our high-margin products and cost management.

Regarding our dry process graphene and CSPG project, we have made significant inroads with both levels of government and for our electricity allocation. We are satisfied with the progress made with our stakeholders in the project.

We will inform investors as we progress and reach key milestones. At the same time, we have ordered equipment to begin industrial scale production of our dry process graphene at our Thimens facility targeting early calendar 2026.

This first module gives us between 500 and 1,000 tons per year of capacity depending on product grade. This first production module will allow us to supply larger volumes to our testing partners and will eventually be the first line installed in our new facility.

Looking ahead to the fiscal year, we see 2 stages. Our Advanced materials, plastic and composite segment is currently seeing volume reduction from our 2 major customers.

That will translate into a challenging Q1 and Q2. But as we move into the back half, we expect growth to be driven by higher margin graphene powder cells, Statesville production ramp up and by volumes resuming in graphene-enhanced SMC.

To sum it up, while there are softer volumes in the near term, there's plenty of good news as well. Q4 delivered strong adjusted EBITDA margin, we are in the final stages of securing a major new oil and gas customer while progressing with other ones for our highest margin business segment.

We completed the Statesville expansion and already have parts shipping, and we made solid progress on the dry graphene project as we gear up for future growth. Overall, we expect both growth and profitability to be weighted toward the second half of the year.

With that, I'll now turn the call over to Pedro to walk you through our financial performance.

Pedro Azevedo

Good morning, everyone. Today, I will begin with a review of our Q4 and full year financial results followed by an update on financial aspects of our 5-year plan and conclude with some commentary on near-term CapEx spending.

Total revenues in Q4 were 17% lower than Q4 2024 at $31.7 million. This decrease was mainly due to a reduction in demand from our 2 largest customers as volumes have slowed to historically low levels after strong demand levels last year.

Our 2 largest customers, along with others in the industry have reported layoffs and cadence reductions due to the current economic environment. Although revenues from parts and materials were lower, tooling revenues were higher due to the continued supply of tools for new programs and expansion of an existing program now completed.

As previously indicated, this higher level of tooling will be the case during fiscal 2026 until part production starts on new programs during calendar 2026 and early 2027. Adjusted gross margins, which exclude depreciation as a percentage of sales continued to increase during the quarter to reach 24.7%, an increase of 110 basis points year-over-year driven mainly by positive variances on tooling revenue recognition, partly offset by lower manufacturing overhead cost absorption on lower volume.

This year-over-year margin improvement has been the trend for over the last 12 quarters, and we are pleased that it is continuing. Looking back at the progress made over the quarters, I wanted to highlight that we started with an adjusted gross margin of 3% in Q1 of 2022 and have progressively improved quarter-by-quarter to reach 24.7% this past quarter.

These improvements have come from improved operational efficiency, increased volume of both graphene-enhanced parts and other non-graphene enhanced parts, increasing graphene powder sales and a higher U.S. dollar.

Adjusted EBITDA was $2.5 million, equal to last year and was comprised of $2.7 million in the Advanced materials, plastics and composite products segment, a decrease of $600,000 versus last year and by a loss of $247,000 in the Battery cells and materials segment, an improvement of $600,000 versus last year. With regard to our balance sheet and cash flows, we ended the quarter with $18.6 million in cash and cash equivalent and $5.2 million in short-term and long-term debt.

Operating cash flows amounted to $1.8 million, mainly from changes in working capital items. Cash flows from financing activities were positive $1.8 million resulting from equipment lease financing advances inflow of $3.9 million and debt and lease repayments of $1.9 million.

Finally, cash flows from investing activities were negative $5.4 million, mainly due to capital expenditure payments related to our 5-year strategic plan. Our cash, along with the unused space in our revolving credit lines resulted in a total liquidity of $28.6 million at June 30.

Looking at our full year results. While sales were strong in the first half of our fiscal year and in line with expectations, the second half was disappointing as our 2 largest customers reduced their production cadence.

Nevertheless, within our total sales, usage on sale of graphene powder continue to grow. Sales for the year were slightly below last year at $129 million, but with a record adjusted EBITDA of $6.1 million.

If we look at the segments, adjusted EBITDA in the Advanced materials, plastics and composite Products segment reached $6.9 million, an improvement of $1.7 million versus fiscal year 2024. During the year, gross margins, excluding depreciation, increased from an average of 21.1% in fiscal 2024 to an average of 22.3% in fiscal 2025.

Adjusted EBITDA loss in the Battery cells and materials segment was $725,000 compared to a loss of $2.7 million last year, mainly due to the cost reductions in the VoltaXplore initiative. With regard to the expansions of graphene-enhanced SMC capacity, expansion in our Beauce, Quebec plant was completed during the quarter.

This expansion increased our capacity to produce parts for one customer by 50%. However, the capacity expansion currently remains underutilized due to the reduced demand in the mid- and heavy transportation industry.

Our U.S. expansion, which includes both graphene enhanced SMC as well as additional capacity for the composites business is near completion with most of the equipment having been delivered and installed during the summer months.

Start of production of a new program at the Statesville site will begin in early October, adding to revenues in our Q2. Lastly, in August 2025, NanoXplore was selected to receive up to $2.75 million over the next 3 years from Natural Resources Canada under the Energy Innovation Programs Battery Industry Acceleration call for proposals for the research and development on the use of silicon graphene in ultrahigh-powered cylindrical cells.

Turning now to our near-term CapEx spending. With regard to CapEx spending, as expected, we spent approximately $5 million on CapEx in Q4.

And expect to spend another $3 million to $5 million in each of the next 2 quarters as we complete the spending on the U.S. expansion initiative and the graphene-enhanced SMC initiative of the 5-year strategic plan.

As previously mentioned, this will be financed through our RBC credit facility and mainly with equipment lease financing. With that, I will turn back to PY.

Pierre-Yves Terrisse

Thank you, Pedro. Operator, we can now open the line for questions.

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from the line of Amr Ezzat from Ventum Capital Markets.

Amr Ezzat

I'd like to first acknowledge yesterday's news, Soroush, congrats on everything you've achieved in building NanoXplore has been certainly great to follow the story from your early days, and I'm glad to see that you remain involved as adviser and Vice Chair but maybe if we could start there, can you walk us through what drove the decision and the timing of the decision that you guys are in the cusp of commercialization. Then from an investor viewpoint, how should we think about I guess, the continuity in customer relationships, especially when it comes to powder commercialization as well as the strategy going forward?

Is the change signaling a different direction?

Soroush Nazarpour

Right. Right.

All right. So let me start by saying I'm pretty happy with this transition, and it was a work in progress for quite some time.

It's -- just let's step back. It's very normal for startups to be highly dependent to the founder.

And this has been something that has been recognized in the company for the last few years. So throughout the time, Rocco and Pedro that are both pillars of the company.

They are -- they took slowly some of the responsibility that I have throughout the years. And the best example of that the last 2 years, both of them have been involved directly as well with the Board of Directors reporting.

So this has been a transition in the making for quite some time. Rocco is a fantastic executive.

We have been working together for many years, and I'm very, very happy for this transition, seeing Rocco coming on board and taking lead from the December. Now on the personal side, I have decided to move on sometime in the next year.

So we decided to put the transition really on the AGM. So I have still a good 6 to 9 months of being present physically actually to be able to support Rocco in the transition.

Going forward, I'm also continuing in the Board of Nano and I'm a big supporter of the company. I started this, and I will continue to be the cheerleader regardless of the title.

Having said that, I'm actually continuing with the company. The concept is not for me to move away.

I will -- I'm still continuing to be here in supporting the business. So I see it as a very positive transition.

I actually think highly dependent corporation to the founders are a risk, I believe we've done a great job with the Board of Directors of Nano and Rocco and Pedro to really manage the transition in a very positive way and something that we, I believe, removed the risk from the company. So all in all, very positive.

I'm very happy. And on the timing of that.

So we are in the cusp of signing a contract with a major oil and gas company. And that's what we have reflected in the script as well.

This is -- the good news is actually we've been able to conclude this contract very soon, we will release the news related to that. And I think it's the best time the company is doing fantastic.

The graphene sales is in the best shape possible. So I think it's a great time actually for this transition.

Amr Ezzat

Fantastic. That's extremely helpful and congrats again.

So let's go to the other big news like that you just mentioned on the prepared remarks. I think the wording that you used is you are finalizing the contracts on the drilling fluid side for powder commercialization, obviously, can you give us -- and I'm not sure if you can, like a sense of size and pricing of such a contract, then do we think of that as a one-off contract or is that a multiyear sort of contract?

Soroush Nazarpour

So let me say that we actually recorded this script yesterday, but today, I can tell you the contract is concluded. So that's the positive side.

I mean the contract is done. The press release will come out.

Let me talk about what is this tribograph. So tribograph is, as I said in the script, is the mixture of carbon.

It's technically produced in our Thimens facility. It has quite extensive lubricity properties.

So it's very useful for the drilling fluid application and also other sort of metal working and so on. What it does is it brings down the friction while drilling.

So moving away from the technical that how is doing it, it translates into cost reduction for the oil and gas companies and for the drillers. So this type of graphene type solution has -- are always exposed to extra cost for users, hasn't something that we have to manage today.

This product is actually reducing the cost. So adoption going to be very strong.

In terms of details of the contract, you got to wait for the press release to come, but it's a multiyear supply contract. That's what I can say today.

But you will see the details of the contract and all the commitments very soon.

Amr Ezzat

Fantastic congrats on that. And if you'll allow me 1 more.

I mean, you guys spoke at length about the economic environment and your 2 largest customers have like been holding back volumes and certainly in Quebec, there's been a lot of local, I guess, coverage around PACCAR Sainte-Thérèse plant, whether it's the layoffs or the production cutbacks and a lot of it actually is post your Q4. So I'd like to understand the magnitude of the volume softness in Q1 for both your large clients relative to Q4, then when thinking about fiscal '26, should we view this as largely a Q1 event, then Q2 is a rebound?

Is that a fair statement?

Pedro Azevedo

So Amr, Q1, in terms of specific percentages, I'd rather not talk about those because it is a subset of the whole of NanoXplore. The decrease has continued throughout Q1 from Q4.

So you can make it with what you will. You're right, the PACCAR plant closure of a shift and downsizing is definitely a direct impact on our Beauce plant.

It's not an impact on other businesses, if that helps a little bit. When it comes to Q1, Q2, yes, it is mainly a Q1 issue because we have a lot of stuff coming into Q2 that we've talked about in the script.

New programs are starting in Q2, new customers starting in Q2. While the issue related to the 2 largest customers might continue into Q1 and Q2, A couple of things.

Number one, all of these new programs will offset some of that in H2 in our second half, we expect the transportation industry to start recovering, even if it's just a little bit with everything that's being built up, we see H2 being a recovery. So coming back to your point, Q1, probably the area where the softness will be mostly viewed, but then Q2 ramp-up will start.

And then H2 will be, I would say, back to normal and then some...

Operator

One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from the line of Baltej Sidhu from National Bank of Canada.

Baltej Sidhu

Congratulations on the transition, Soroush. So just a question on the 5-year strategic plan and mainly the graphene and battery material expansion.

Can we get an update on the outlook for this portion of the strategic plan? Have you had any further conversations with Hydro-Québec on the required power allocation?

And this is a follow-up to that. If not, have you decided to make any change to the initial plan, whether it's exploring different geographies or manufacturing sites and the like.

Soroush Nazarpour

Right. So we can only discuss what we have been able to discuss from the energy side.

But I can tell you, we are happy with the outcome of that. There is no changes today.

We're continuing -- we were in a point to mix switch to the program in the last during the summer. But I'm happy that things evolved, and we have -- we're happy with the outcome.

Having said that, any sort of release needs to be managed by the government. So we have to follow those requirements.

There is no change. We are still on -- the plan is still the same, and I hope that in the next couple of months, we will get -- you guys will get a lot of positive updates about that.

Baltej Sidhu

Sounds great. And then just on the financing side of things.

Have we seen any additional sources of financing come through or increased customer contributions or is that still that same stack with investment tax credits probably debt and the government funding?

Soroush Nazarpour

We will update some of the CapEx numbers for sure, a little bit later. But the main component of this is to announce the government supports.

And following that, we will have -- you will have more clarity about the numbers.

Baltej Sidhu

Great. And then on the CSPG side of things, given the newly proposed tariffs by the U.S.

on Chinese graphite, are you seeing any more indications of customer and down on this port product or any evolution in conversations that you've had in the past few months?

Soroush Nazarpour

CSPG continues to be really undersupplied in North America, and the demand is there even though some of the demand related to EV looks to be slower than in terms of growth than anticipated, but the production is still pretty much nonexistent. So further pressure on Chinese graphite supply really doesn't change at this point.

There is no -- there's not enough CSPG supply in North America. As the graphite and the graphite -- secondary transport graphite products are more tariffed, there is still -- there's more need for local production.

So I don't see this to make significant changes in the landscape today, but it certainly makes it more difficult for Chinese suppliers to provide the product to North America. So it's a positive momentum for us.

We're seeing as well new entrants of large companies into the CSPG. So again, that shows that this supply/demand is still attractive for us to play in it.

But at the end of the day, I think the impact of the tariff on the graphite is minimum.

Baltej Sidhu

Great. And then just on the tariff situation, just another follow up here is given the pressure on graphite supply, have you seen any changes in your contract with your supplier and/or your supply chains in sourcing graphite.

And if you're able to give us any sense of kind of a contract length with the current Canadian supplier.

Soroush Nazarpour

No, we have multiple sources for the graphite. The graphite availability is still a -- graphite market as a whole is oversupplied.

So we don't really see any challenge in getting the graphite that we need. So again, it's not something that we are concerned at this point.

Baltej Sidhu

Okay. And then just the last one for me, if I may, on the SMC expansion.

What's the order book looking like for this facility? I recall in Q3, you had mentioned that there were around 4 programs for around $30 million to $35 million in sales.

Have you seen increased traction or an evolution in conversations there?

Pedro Azevedo

So as Soroush kind of mentioned, one of the issues that we did see is that the awards that were made and we've announced have been delayed. So we thought that they would have started by now, but they haven't, but they will be starting in Q2.

When it comes to order book, there are various programs that are in the magnitude of $10 million to $20 million in the next 12 months, let's say, and then further another $10 million, give or say, take in 2017. So we've been awarded all of these projects into the next 2 years.

But for the plant in Statesville and the North Carolina operations, these programs will start in the next few months in the next month, actually, and grow to 2027 when all these awards will now be in production.

Operator

One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from the line of Marvin Wolff from Paradigm Capital.

Marvin Wolff

Okay. I'll try to tone it down, Soroush.

I'd just like to say congratulations. You've built a great company here, Soroush.

Hats off to you, it's a big achievement. And sorry to hear you stepping aside, but I fully understand it from the evolution of the firm, and I think all shareholders down the road will find this as a good move.

I had a question with regard to shovels in the ground. On the expansions.

What can we kind of think of there now?

Soroush Nazarpour

Well, I mean, we talked a little bit about the dry process and CSPG project. There has been a couple of milestones for us to get there before starting the construction.

Of course, the power requirement was one, government support was the other one and then putting everything together and starting the construction. I think we are almost there.

We can't -- I can't update you as like a press release or something because there are other partners that need to let us announce it, like Hydro-Québec as well. the government.

But I'm quite confident that this project can move forward. What I'm seeing today is positive and we can go forward.

Now in terms of the shovel in the ground, we have to build a plant, and this potentially starts.

Marvin Wolff

Yes. Do you think you'll be able to catch this season or you got to wait through the winter?

Soroush Nazarpour

Yet to be seen, but I think the supply-demand dynamic is not going to change by a couple of quarters. that's for sure.

But I hope that we can start this very soon.

Operator

One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from the line of Michael Glen from Raymond James.

Michael Glen

Soroush, thank you for everything with NanoXplore over the years, all your patience with me in touring the facilities and bringing me up to speed on the future of graphene's all been really, really fun and interesting to watch.

Soroush Nazarpour

Thank you very much.

Michael Glen

Just to come back on the SMC facility and that outlook that was asked previously. When you -- Pedro, I think you were speaking to that.

Like when you add all this together, you mentioned a number of different order items in the order book. When you add all those together, looking out say, in 2 years from now, what would the -- can you give a range like what the revenue contribution from all of this might look like?

Pedro Azevedo

So just on the SMC initiative that we've been putting together, we expect a minimum in 2 years, and I think your time line is right because it's going to still take a little bit longer than from today to ramp up to that, but it is ramping up. So think of this as a ramp up over the next few years.

It should reach around $30 million to $40 million in the next 2 years as these programs are all rolled out and the SMC initiative has really come to fruition, let's say, as we had originally planned.

Michael Glen

Okay. And would you say that, that is largely in line with current gross margins?

Pedro Azevedo

That will all be at current gross margins and possibly even a little bit more as we fill plants, the margins, the overheads gets absorbed by more revenue and therefore, the margin should improve.

Michael Glen

Okay. Okay.

And then back to the drilling fluid products. I can't remember the name of it, but is this a patent protected product or IP protected, just...

Soroush Nazarpour

Yes. It's protected by intellectual properties.

And it's pretty much coming out of the same graphene production line. It's the modification that we did on the output that to make it more suitable for lubrication properties...

Michael Glen

And how does -- I know that we're waiting for some of the details, but how does the anticipated customer demand aligned with the installation you have right now?

Soroush Nazarpour

It's -- I will -- I think it's better to wait and see the press release before I speculate on the volume.

Michael Glen

Sorry, I missed the last part. What was that?

Soroush Nazarpour

I think it's better to wait for the press release. This is a little bit of a speculation at this point.

Let's get the press release details are in there. All in all, I would say I'm very happy with the outcomes, potentially the biggest graphene contract -- well, it's the biggest graphene contract for Nano and potentially the biggest graphene contract in the history.

But let's wait for the contract to come out, and there's more details in there.

Operator

Okay. Thank you.

At this time, I would now like to turn the conference back over to Pierre-Yves for closing remarks.

Pierre-Yves Terrisse

Thank you, operator. Is there any further questions from the analysts?

Operator

There is not.

Pierre-Yves Terrisse

Okay. Well, I'd like to thank everyone for participating in this call, and have a great day.

Operator

This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating.

You may now disconnect.