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Q3 2024 · Earnings Call Transcript

Nov 22, 2024

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John Hamilton

Good morning, everybody. This is John Hamilton.

Thank you for joining us this morning. We're here to talk about our 3Q results for 2024.

I'm joined today by a number of colleagues, who will assist me in answering any questions. As a reminder, today's conference call contains certain statements that are may be deemed to be forward looking statements, which include all statements other than statements of historical fact.

Forward-looking statements involve making certain assumptions based on the company's experience and perception of historical trends, current conditions, expected future developments, and other factors that we believe are appropriate under the circumstances. Although we believe the expectations reflected in these forward-looking statements are reasonable, actual events or results may differ materially from those projected or implied in such forward-looking statements due to known or unknown risks, uncertainties and other factors.

And for your reference, our results was also announced this morning and the materials are available on our website. So next slide please.

As a reminder, we're using the same technology that we normally do. There'll be a time for Q&A at the end.

You can either type your question in or you can raise your hand if you want to be unmuted. We will endeavor to answer all the questions that we get if some are duplicated or if some are perhaps not.

For the individual questions we can better answer on an email. Please reach out to us also directly through our investor email address.

Next slide, please. So this is our slide, where we show the three months the Q3, we also show in the orange the year-to-date financials third quarter saw us producing about 9,400 barrels a day with a revenue of $36 million and an EBITDA of $23 million.

It was a quiet quarter in terms of liftings, as was broadcast, so that's entirely in line. On a nine-month basis we're looking at about $180 million of revenue and $101 million of EBITDA.

On the balance sheet, we ended the quarter with $18 million -- $19 million of cash and a net debt position of around $51 million. Next slide, please.

We also today have announced another shareholder distribution in the form of a return of paid in capital of NOK50 million, which has been very, very steady. We have also made good headway on our share buyback program with still some room left to go on that one.

We're very, very happy to continue to follow our shareholder distribution framework that we announced about a year ago. Oil prices have been a little soft obviously recently, but despite that we've continued on this track, and we still have the final quarter to go in terms of -- in terms of the shareholder distribution for the 2024 cycle.

Next slide, please. So our production target of 13,000 barrels a day has been achieved.

It's been at times a bumpy road, but we've gotten there very, very happy about it. It was achieved recently, as wells are starting to come online in Gabon, which we'll touch on a little bit more and also importantly in Equatorial Guinea.

Next slide, please. So our liftings were more or less as guided.

We had one small lifting in Tunisia, which kind of just slipped into October, so it kind of missed the Q3 revenue recognition and slipped into Q4, where we anticipate lifting or we have lifted, I mean, a long way through this already of 1.4 million barrels, something like 40% of our 2024 liftings are occurring in the fourth quarter. Our average price realization year-to-date has been around $80, which is pretty good.

Obviously, oil prices have subsequently dropped, so we're keeping a close eye on that one. But nonetheless, it's a very busy quarter for us that will see us in terms of full year financials.

Obviously, that's going to be a big contribution in the fourth quarter. Next slide, please.

So our debt profile RBL facility at $70 million post period. We took advantage of a little headroom in there just to manage some working capital through this heavy CapEx period that we're in.

But the real story, I guess, is around the CapEx this year, which we've guided back in August that was going to be higher than $75 million, and we've recently announced it's closer to $95 million now, and that's largely as a result of the two things. One is the expanded program in Gabon.

We drilled a couple extra wells, which obviously are very good for the company. It's given us more production, more reserves.

But equally the amended work program, the change out of the rig in Equatorial Guinea has unfortunately given us additional capital expenditure that was not forecast at the time. The good news from our perspective certainly is that indicatively CapEx next year should be around $40 million.

We will once the rig leaves Gabon after drilling the Bourdon well in February, we will not have a rig on any of our assets during 2025 based on what we see at the moment. And so, we're kind of at that cash flow inflection point, hopefully, where the increased revenue starts coming through against lower CapEx.

Next slide, please. I'm not going to go through this in great detail.

It's there for the workings for people that like to look through these. But we always produce a reconciliation cash flow and how we got from the cash position at the beginning of the year to where we currently are.

Next slide, please. So Gabon has obviously been a source of great attention for the Company.

It's been a tricky year with our ESP issues, I'm happy to say now and touching wood that the current ESP, we do not have any of the old retrievable ESPs in the field anymore. We are now either putting in pumps on wells that don't have an ESP on them yet.

So for instance, Ruche and one of the Hibiscus wells, or we're producing under the new ESP. So it's been a bit of a journey, but things are working extremely well.

We and BW announced last week that we had achieved greater than 40,000 barrels a day of production, which is a key thing for the Company. The Adolo has the capacity to go above its nameplate, so we do get a lot of questions around how high could production be and all that.

I would say, it's still early days. But obviously with the additional two wells that we've brought online, so that being Hibiscus Northern Flank and the Hibiscus South, those two discoveries we made earlier that have been brought online, we've now gone from a position of having originally planned for six wells in the initial phase of this development to eight wells.

So we still have four slots left on the platform for a future phase of development. But we really have put ourselves in a position, where we have a great inventory of wells that should allow us to produce oil, extend the plateau out here for longer than originally planned.

So this is really recently been a great success in here. We do have the Borr Norve all the way through February, at which point leaves Gabon.

The last thing that we'll do after just finishing up a couple of workovers and the final pump installations is to drill the Bourdon Prospect, which we'll touch a little bit more on about. But that is a well that we will drill in January, February.

Next slide, please. That's Ceiba and Okume.

It's been also very active. We've had a tricky year with the swap out of the drilling rig.

But I'm happy to now report that we have now completed both wells. The Ceiba infill well, so the red dots on the screen and the Okume infill well, those are both completed and hooked up.

And we're starting now to see the benefit of the additional production coming from there. The drill ship, the Noble Venturer has actually left the production block, Ceiba and Okume and moved over to Block S, which is a Kosmos operated exploration well called Akeng Deep, which we have another slide on, and that well is currently drilling.

We expect results in December on that well. I'll touch a little bit more on that one.

Next slide, please. And in Tunisia, we continue to work.

Production has been soft this year. The country has been going through some political change.

It has resulted in delays in various regulatory approvals, which impact not just Panoro, but the industry more widely and that has simply resulted in less activity. So you'll see actually on our CapEx, although the CapEx -- group CapEx has gone up, Tunisia actually has been lighter than originally budgeted for that reason.

And nonetheless, there are activities going on now. We're currently working over a nice looking well.

We hope in the first part of 2025 to get after a Rhemoura well, which is a nice well and contribute nicely to production. So this is a little bit go slow at the moment, but it continues to produce well with good opportunities for us in the coming years.

Next slide, please. So one of the things we are starting to talk about a little bit more is where does the company go?

We've achieved 40,000 barrels at Dussafu. We've kind of reached our group target of 13,000 barrels.

What do our -- what does the hooper look like, what does the future look like for Panoro looking across its asset base? And one of the things we've been very proud of is being able to continue to add contingent resource and obviously development of resource opportunities.

So these will be infrastructure led opportunities that can continue to feed that 2P reserve, which is so important to have. And so, we're looking at reserves in the high 30s at the moment, which is a very good strong position to be at.

We have 29 billion barrels net of 2C resources and that will continue to. Not every one of those will migrate itself necessarily to 2P, but certainly a large portion of them should.

We've recently announced, and we'll talk a little bit more about it, the Block EG 23 license award that we have. And then looking on top of that we have a number of infrastructure-led opportunities Akeng Deep and Bourdon being the ones that are right in front of us.

But we've got so much more to do in Dussafu, and we have also through some of our other exploration blocks further opportunities to add both the contingent resource and then ultimately to the 2P reserve. So we think on a portfolio basis, zooming out of the business for a second now we put the company in excellent position organically leaving any M&A to the side to continue to grow the business over the coming years.

And that's been very much part of the strategy to put ourselves in a position, where organically we can continue to grow this business. Next slide, please.

So just a couple of thoughts around the current exploration program. We're drilling as we speak in Block S, the Akeng Deep well.

This is operated by Kosmos Energy. It is a -- something like a 25% chance of success.

So it is properly exploration. And its aim is to teach -- test the deeper Albian.

So this is a kind of unproven play, quite compelling because if we do find oil, there's a very short tie back distance to the FPSO. So this is what we mean by infrastructure-led exploration.

And it would in a success case would have very positive read across to our other block that we have with Kosmos called EG-01. We should have results on this in December.

And as a reminder, Panoro's financial exposure to this is quite modest. We have a small stake in it, which could be meaningful in the case of a discovery, but in the case of no oil, it is partially cost recoverable through our production sharing contract.

So this is a fiscally and economically very attractive well for us to be drilling together with Kosmos. In Gabon, we have the Bourdon well, which for those of you, who followed us for many, many, many years, this is the old prospect B and it's one of the nicest looking objects we still have.

We have lots of other prospects and leads on the block, but this is the one that really has always jumped out as being potentially quite interesting. It's got a sort of mid case estimated recoverable in the success case of around 29 million barrels.

Again, adding to that great Dussafu story, we'll drill that in January, February. The chance of success on that is higher than it is in Block S, but nonetheless, it's still exploration.

So it does have some risk on it. We will hopefully have some good news though to share on that in the early part of next year.

Next slide, please. And just a -- something about some of the recent press releases that we've made around the strategy about what we're doing here.

We recently announced the award of Block EG 23. EG 23 sits right there at the toe thrust of the Niger Delta.

So it's a very, very geologically interesting area to be in. And that that petroleum system that's in this area has been extremely prolific.

To the west of us, we have the Zafiro Field, which was operated by ExxonMobil. It is -- you produce over 1 billion barrels of oil.

Just below us, the Alba Field, which is a gas and gas condensate fields operated by Marathon, has produced well over 1.2 billion barrels as well. And entering the Block EG 23, we come in with existing discoveries on the block.

Our commitment on this is very, very light. So we have a three-year license to reprocess data.

We have no drilling commitment on this. And ultimately, we then have the option to convert that into a drilling commitment in about three years.

And it's clearly a situation, where we would seek to partner with a larger oil company on this one. We would not be carrying a large piece of equity on this one.

But we think that we can certainly incubate the block and hopefully bring in some partners in due course if we're encouraged by the work that we do. And again, this is infrastructure-led.

If we make discoveries here, it can tie into the Alba facilities and ultimately into the LNG facilities on Bioko Island. This is Equatorial Guinea is a very, very large LNG producer run by Marathon Oil.

And we recently announced together with BW Energy and VAALCO, the award of two blocks. These have been pending for a little while, but we finally got them done.

As you can see on the right there you have the Niosi permit, which is in yellow and clearly is just following the fairway between Dussafu, which we've talked about and Etame, which is a series of fields that have already produced 150 million barrels and are continuing to produce and have plenty of reserves on them. So we think combining the subsea, subsurface expertise of Panoro with the development expertise of both VAALCO and BW, we've really kind of got a great joint venture here, joint venture with the state on this one as well.

And looking at just kind of gathering this area, working on reprocessing data, working up the prospects and leads and probably drilling a well certainly in the yellow license Niosi sometime in the next few years. But again, Panoro's exposure to this financially is being kept at a modest size, but we're clearly in a very, very prolific oil area here.

In the event of a discovery, oil can be delivered either to the Etame production facilities or into the Dussafu facilities. So a very, very sensible piece of long-term business for us to do on both these assets.

Next slide, please. So a little picture on and the key messaging.

Really, we have had a few years now of heavy investment, 2024 being a record investment, which is now starting to yield those results. I think we're coming into more of a harvest period now.

Through all this development activity we've done, we've managed to grow production from 2020 at around 2,000 barrels a day to 13,000 barrels a day, at the same time guiding CapEx in and around the $40 million mark next year. So this really 2025 is looking to be a strong year for Panoro.

We have very good visible production growth, we think with long life assets. We believe we have nice infrastructure-led catalysts as well, which will continue to hopefully add to the resource base, reserve base that we already have.

And we're continuing with a very shareholder focused distribution plan, where the board, the management team are all aligned to reward shareholders, as we go through, as we have been doing in the past. And as we move through this harvesting period, where we expect to continue to deliver both through return of paid in capital, which again might have certain advantages to certain shareholders and obviously through the approved buyback program.

So next slide, please. Again, if you'd like to ask a question, raise your hand using the little hand icon there and if you got a question, type it in.

Again, we'll endeavor to answer questions as long as they've not already been answered or if they're very, very specific, we will ask you. If your question is not, ask to send us something and we'll endeavor to respond to it by email.

Good. So and my colleague Andy, Head of Corporate Development, is going to chair the Q&A.

But over to you Andy.

A - Andy Scott

Thank you, John. The first question is from Stephen Foucaud.

Stephane, you're self-muted. Can you please unmute yourself and ask your question?

Thank you. Stephane...

Stephen Foucaud

Yes. Can you hear me?

Andy Scott

We can. Please go ahead.

Stephen Foucaud

Yeah. Right.

So thanks for taking the question. I was -- so my first question is around capital allocation, next year, balance sheet and so forth.

So CapEx will be much lower, much more cash flow. What in your view is the ideal cash you would keep in that period and particularly in the context of the debt?

And I saw the announcement this morning about the fixed income meetings. If you could talk around that within that context about what you're planning to do with that -- with the [indiscernible] would be great.

And my second question is more straightforward. Once the second EG well is on stream, where would you see gross production stabilizing at in EG?

Thank you.

John Hamilton

Thanks, Stephane. Yeah.

So this morning we announced that we're commencing a series of fixed income meetings over the coming days. The logic behind that is that we believe our business has evolved.

We believe examining the bond market is a natural progression for us to diversify our sort of capital structure, access to capital. Many of our peers make use of this market as well.

We've had an excellent RBL. We feel really supportive lenders over the years and those relationships will continue.

But we felt that the time was right for us to put a longer-term piece of capital in place that's subject to market conditions. Obviously, that better reflects the maturity of our current business.

So capital allocation for next year, I think you'll see us continuing the trend that we have previously announced. We are looking at being very much on the front foot in terms of shareholder allocation towards shareholders.

I'd say the difference next year as compared to when we're in our development phase is obviously given that where CapEx is coming down, our free cash flow is higher, we can withstand lower oil prices than perhaps in prior years or perhaps much more sensitive to oil price. We're going to be a lot less sensitive to oil price barring a complete crash, of course, which we're not anticipating, but we're much less sensitive to oil price.

So I think you'll see the capital allocation continue between shareholder distributions, retaining cash for working capital and of course keeping a lot of the opportunity for further business growth. We always evaluating opportunities.

And as our portfolio matures and depending on the outcome of some of the wells that we're drilling that create -- that could create some opportunity to look at some other things. We'll probably move more 2026 activity frankly.

But we'll continue to try and keep that nice balance between keeping the company well-funded and being on the front foot in terms of shareholder allocation. The second well in EG, you know, it's just coming online.

We don't like to count chickens before they hatch. I'll probably just stick with what we've always said about this program and the program has been meant to take production from around 24,000 barrels, 25,000 barrels a day to, you know, somewhere around 35,000 barrels a day, you know, perhaps a little bit higher.

Don't want to count our chickens quite yet. But that's the intention is kind of get us back up to, you know, more or less so that that block, Block EG is doing somewhere around what Dussafu is doing maybe slightly, slightly less, but in that -- in that range, which is a good place for it to be.

Hope that answers your questions.

Stephen Foucaud

Okay. Thank you for that.

Yes. Perhaps back on the first one.

So ideally if we look at some sort of absolute number on the cash and the debt, what is the sort of number you have in mind? What do you think you need to always keep on your balance sheet in terms of cash?

John Hamilton

Stephane, let's say, it's quite a specific question. I think what we always try and do is we do have working capital needs within the business.

We produce oil every day. We don't sell it every day.

So we always try and keep a nice cushion there to deal with working capital swings. We do have a facility that we use with Trafigura at the moment, which allows us to manage those very short-term working capital swings.

And so, we'll continue to make sure that we are running a very sensible business, not over levered. But that working capital facility is around $25 million maybe the best way to answer your question.

Stephen Foucaud

I see. Okay.

Great. Thank you very much.

John Hamilton

Sure.

Andy Scott

Thank you. The next question is from Teodor Sveen Nilsen.

Teodor, you're self-muted. If you could please unmute yourself and go ahead.

Thank you. Teodor?

John Hamilton

Should we come back to him?

Andy Scott

Yeah. We will come back to Teodor.

The next question is from [Chris Aristidou] (ph). Chris, you're unmuted.

Please go ahead and ask your question.

Unidentified Analyst

Hi, thanks for taking my questions. So I've got a couple.

I guess, the first one. What's the entitlement production for Q3?

John Hamilton

I'm sorry, can you say that again?

Unidentified Analyst

Sorry. Is that better?

John Hamilton

I think so.

Unidentified Analyst

Yeah. So both entitlement production in Q3?

John Hamilton

Entitlement production in Q3. Andy, can we get back to Chris on that?

I don't have that number exactly to hand.

Unidentified Analyst

Okay.

Andy Scott

Yes. Chris, we put the nine-month entitlement in the presentation.

We'll get back to you with the three month -- the Q3 three-month entitlement.

Unidentified Analyst

Okay. Thanks.

The other one that I had was on Niosi and Guduma. Is there existing seismic there or are you going to shoot new seismic?

And then you mentioned a well, maybe in Niosi at some point assume that's not 2025. Is that how you're thinking of bringing rig back along with phase two in Dussafu?

Can you talk a bit about that?

John Hamilton

What I'd like to do is ask my colleague Richard to answer your first one and tell you a little bit about what kind of data is on that block. Yeah, I mean, we do have a well commitment on the Niosi block.

We're not on the -- on the other one. And you know, we got quite a long period to do that.

So I think you're absolutely right. I think the time to drill it would be when a drilling rig is in the area, either one that VAALCO bring down for any Etame development or perhaps when we do our next phase in development, which is probably a 2026 number in Dussafu.

So, you know, we don't have any current plans to drill it. It would certainly be drilled as and when there's a rig in the area doing development drilling for one of -- one of one of the two blocks.

Richard, do you mind asking -- answering Chris' question on what kind of seismic we've got on the blocks.

Richard Morton

Yeah. Sure.

So, yeah, thanks, Chris. Good question.

So the area has been explored for a number of years and has got some vintage seismic data covering it, various different surveys. We see ourselves acquiring a little bit of new 3D seismic over the Niosi block, which is the south of the Etame area.

We've got some good prospectivity there that requires some fresh seismic data. There may also be an opportunity to acquire a little bit more data over the Guduma block, what we're discussing with the joint venture.

So as those plans evolve, we'll keep you guys informed.

Unidentified Analyst

Okay. Thank you for taking my questions.

John Hamilton

Thanks, Chris.

Andy Scott

Thank you. John, a question on -- online submitted.

Could you share any early thoughts on how you think the 2025 shareholder returns framework will evolve?

John Hamilton

Sure. And I think -- I think it's a very good question and I'm sure other people have the same question.

I think, we, you know, we're busy formulating that at the moment. And again, I think the best thing I can kind of say is, I think that while 2024 has been to date a year, where we've continued to pay a dividend despite oil prices being substantially lower than the framework.

We have our complete focus now on getting through this 2024 cycle couple of more quarter to go. And we will certainly articulate in the near future more of our plans around 2025.

But like I said, I think we aim to be, you know, looking at our peer group and, you know, we aim to be right at the top in terms of expectations, in terms of shareholder return yields. We, again, like I said, I think the positives are, I think next year, we are a lot less sensitive to oil price, and we continue to have debates in the board.

We had a board meeting yesterday. I think everybody is committed to being very, very proactive and keeping a really good balanced approach between shareholder distributions and continued growth within the company.

But we will come out with more specifics on that in due course.

Andy Scott

Thank you, John. And just a couple of questions have come in with shares.

You may -- just asking if the shares purchased under the buyback scheme, what the intention is for them and whether they will be canceled?

John Hamilton

Yes. So yes, the intention is to cancel those shares.

Those shares. I think from a legal perspective they can't be canceled until the general meeting.

So we hold them in treasury. And we -- the full intention is to cancel the shares, but they don't get canceled as soon as they're bought.

We have -- we have to wait for the general meeting.

Andy Scott

Thank you, John. And another question submitted online, just asking for a bit more of an idea on potential debottlenecking scope of the FPSO Adolo and potential timelines.

John Hamilton

Sure. So the official line is that the FPSO Adolo has a 40,000 barrel a day nameplate.

I think the common wisdom, and that's, that's articulated by BW Energy as well. Obviously, it's a BWO FPSO is that generally speaking, the nameplate capacity can be exceeded by approximately 10%.

Obviously if you spent a lot of money and put new topside facilities on, you could greatly expand the Adolo. But in terms of kind of the easy, quick fixes, debottlenecking, as the term was used, there is -- there does appear to be upside potential.

And I think that the common response between us and BW at the moment on that is that it can probably do up to 10%. As these new wells are coming online.

I think anybody can do the math. You can see that we hit 40,000 barrels a day, and we still have wells to bring online.

So clearly the productive capacity at Dussafu, on paper, if I can put it that way, assuming these wells come online at decent rates, is going to be in excess of that nameplate capacity. And I think what's actually happening right now is, I think we're now seeing the stronger production come through, seeing how the facilities are working, how that debottlenecking is working, so it's a little early to come out with something definitive on it.

But I think it is recognized that we do have well productive capacity beyond the 40,000 barrels. How much the vessel can handle on a sustained basis, I think we're still figuring out.

I think the main point that we try to make on this is that that excess well capacity, if I can put it that way, above the 40,000 barrels, at the very least, what it does is, it helps extend out the plateau of that production for longer. Does it mean we can exceed it?

Yes. Does it mean, similarly that we can extend out that plateau, kind of keep the decline on a measured basis by having the ability to hold back on wells?

Or maybe if we're waiting for a well workover, that we have some redundancy to maintain that production? I think that that is probably the most important foundational point to make.

But let's see -- let's see. I mean, this is a luxury problem to have at the moment.

Let's see -- let's see how we do, as we bring these other wells online.

Andy Scott

Thank you, John. And that concludes the Q&A for today.

John Hamilton

Super. Thanks, everybody, and thanks for continuing to follow the company.

Hopefully we've come through a very busy 2024, and hopefully it'll be smoother sailing into next year, but very happy to have hit our production targets and hopefully things will be good from here on in. Thank you very much.