Peter Marix-Evans
Thank you Mel, and welcome to everyone and thank you for joining us for our FY26 results presentation today. We've got a slide deck, we'll move through that efficiently and as Mel said, there's opportunity at the end for questions, and you're welcome to submit them as we go along.
I'll get Scott to start off just with the financial highlights for the year.
Scott Jamieson
Thanks Peter, and welcome everybody. Good morning.
I always have great pleasure in at this time of year presenting our numbers. As you can see there, all of those arrows are all pointing north.
This is a testament to obviously the great team that we have at Shape, all of our clients, and all of our subcontractors, and all the broader population that we deal with at Shape. A massive thank you to everyone that's helped to put these numbers together.
If we walk through them, revenue of $1.2 billion, so that's a significant increase against FY25. FY25 was 956.
That's up 30%, and that's the first time we've actually gone through the billion dollar mark. We had an aspiration obviously to hit the billion dollar mark, and we've well and truly gone through that mark.
EBITDA, $50.1 million, again big, big increase, 53% on last year, and of course the net profit after tax of $31.7 million, up 50%. This has certainly been assisted by margin accretion together with operating leverage, which we'll talk a little bit more about later on.
Project wins, project wins are those contracts for which we've secured of $1.3 billion, that's also up 37%. The difference between a project win and the revenue: a project win's when we secure the work, the revenue is then recognized as we complete that work.
That then transforms into the middle there on the backlog orders. If you look at the backlog orders, that is work that we've secured that we are still yet to do.
That's $628 million, again up from 492 at this time last year. The identified pipeline of $4.8 billion, that's up 20%.
That's probably a conservative pipeline to be honest, but what that is, they are real projects. They are projects that we know about, they have a name, they have a size, and if they come to us on the right terms and conditions and we have the resources available to perform those works, we will certainly tender for that projects.
Cash and marketable securities, $136 million, also an increase on last year. That is made up of cash and, of course, the marketable securities, which totals about $32 million.
They are highly liquid, investment-grade corporate bonds, and the primary reason for having those marketable securities is just to generate some more earnings on our cash. We look to get an extra up to 2% on the return on that cash.
Earnings per share, of course, up, in line with NPAT. The reason that that's slightly different to the NPAT number of 50% is purely because that's just done on a weighted average of the shares during the year and it takes account for treasury shares, but up 49%.
Very pleased to announce that the dividends that the directors have declared this morning is 18 cents for the final dividend of FY26, and that brings the total dividend in relation to the performance of FY26 to 32 cents. Thank you, Peter.
Peter Marix-Evans
Thanks Scott. Great set of numbers and, yeah, very pleased to present them to the shareholders.
Just a bit of a reflection on Shape for some of you who are new to the story. Australia's leading construction partner, a strong focus on fit-out, but also more and more so diversification through construction services.
You'll see there we've grown our people up to circa 900 now, 36 years of profitability, over 320 projects, that's with revenues above $100,000, just again a large spread of smaller projects, shorter duration, which really gives us that risk profile that we like. We've maintained our tender conversion rate quite high, 46%.
That's very important that we don't price for practice, and that pipeline that Scott talked about, we can really identify the best projects that suit both our skill set and align with our repeat clients. You'll see there our operations nationally continue to diversify and to spread with both Shape operations, modular manufacturing facilities, and also with our new acquisition of Arden.
Going on to our business model, Shape have a resilient business model. I talked a little bit about the profile of our projects, we've talked there about short duration.
We can see there more than 50% of our work is complete within six months, very little exposure to escalation and cost of goods going up. Internal projects, again typically lower exposure to industrial, to weather, and our ability to I guess fast-track internal works versus external works just allows us to provide more protection against end dates and those sorts of things.
That diversified portfolio, and we'll talk a little bit more about that as well going forward, but just a really strong mix across the regions and sectors. What that does is, one, it grows our pipeline, but it also gives us the ability to continue to future-proof that revenue growth and just allows us to continue to grow.
Very much part of who we are is a people-focused company culture. We have a very simple business model in that we hire and attract the best talent in the industry, we look after them and keep them engaged, and then they do fantastic things for our clients, as referenced by our Net Promoter Score.
That goes into trusted construction partner. You'll see there, Net Promoter Score of +86, and very importantly, we have a very strong repeat business with our clients.
On to growth and diversification strategy, we've focused on three pillars there, which we've talked about over the last couple of years. You'll see there in the center, our operational pillars, which is how we run the business, but from a growth point of view, both organic and inorganic.
Through sector diversification, and that includes growing outside of commercial office without losing our commercial office market share, and we're very very fond and attached to that, regional growth, following our clients and following GDP and population to where we can establish a presence, and then capability expansion, which includes things like modular and even our Arden business with retail, fuel. Inorganic growth, again pursuing strategic acquisitions, and we'll talk a little bit more about the two acquisitions that we've made in the last 12 months.
From a sector diversification point of view, you'll see there the commercial office market has not shrunk. In the past it would have been greater than 50%.
Because we're continuing to grow the other parts of that wagon wheel, that commercial office market by percentage will become slightly smaller, however, by number it continues to increase. You'll see there hotel revenue increased, there's quite a lot of that, particularly on the back of the development in Queensland and the investment there.
Retail revenue increasing up to $40 million, a big part of that is a half-year contribution from the Arden Group. Critical facilities, the data centers and infrastructure, so that's now our third-largest sector, revenue of over $100 million in this period, and project wins of circa $120 million.
That includes the 20-megawatt project that we have recently completed with DigiCo, and it also includes a fee there for an early contractor involvement for the next stage of the 88-megawatt DigiCo project, which is an ECI services fee at this stage. Social and institutional education revenues doubled, again big part of that is our modular business, and importantly, our growth into aged care has also continued to gain traction as we continue to focus on establishing a skill set and capability in the aged care.
Industrial, revenue for that's again continued to double. You can see there that wagon wheel really starting to become more diversified as we grow the strength of the Shape teams, the capabilities and the experience.
That just again allows us to continue to thicken that pipeline to make sure that we can future-proof our ability to continue to grow. You can see there revenue from non-office sectors, 57%, and I stress there that we're not moving away from office in any way, we'll continue to focus on the commercial office market across Australia, but we want to make sure that we've got a nice diversified portfolio.
Regional growth, you can see there we've expanded our footprint, over $130 million of revenue from regional branches. Wind the clock back five years, we didn't have those branches.
Those regions continue to grow with investment from both private and public sector, and we'll grow with that as well. Opened a few new offices again and just combining those regional branches, getting some good traction and being really well received by the communities where we're operating.
From capability expansion, you can see there new builds increased to circa 100 mil. That still keeps us around about the 10% or under, we've always said that we are very comfortable with the skill set and capability and people to carry out new build providing it's under the right contract terms and conditions and for the right client.
However, we will monitor the size of that pie because we have a fascination with our risk profile around predominantly being interiors or working inside buildings projects. FY26 really strong year for modular, you can see there the big increase there, which is fantastic, particularly seeing the modular business does deliver better than BAU margins.
That reflects growing confidence not just in Shape's ability, but also in the resilience and the ability of the modular construction sector in general, which is just good for Australia and good for the industry. Then finally, acquisition of the adjacent lease space for our Victorian modular construction facility allows us to continue to be in a position to grow that modular offering in line with industry.
Scott Jamieson
I'll jump in there. The acquisition that Pete mentioned was Arden.
This is our second acquisition that we have done in the history of the business. That all happened in December of 2025.
Of course, this gives Shape the opportunity to get involved in multi-site rollouts for national clients. It expands into retail and the fuel market segments, which is something that we didn't have.
It certainly brings with that business a very experienced team. They've got a nationwide reach, having five offices across Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane, Adelaide, and Perth.
One of the main driving factors behind that was the earnings profile. This has the ability to increase Shape's gross margin, and of course flowing that right down to the net margin.
They've been in business for 24 years, have 75 to 80 people within the business, and there's certainly been very strong cross-business collaboration, and there has already been opportunities where we've had some cross-selling between the two businesses. They've got a very strong retention rate, it's very clear that they have a similar culture to Shape, a similar client experience that they provide with that retention rate of 100% with customers, and of course we've also had 100% of the key employees remain with the business.
As far as integration goes, it's fairly light touch. We're not looking to disrupt their business and the way they operate.
We bought their business for a reason, that's a very good business. We are looking to enhance a few little things around the finance and safety, but we continue to look forward to the future growth and prospects for this business.
Australian Professional Shopfitters. As the name suggests, they are a shopfitter.
They do have manufacturing, factory capability, and this certainly helps support Shape's future growth. It also provides more access to the retail market and focusing on multi-site rollouts.
Where they have the capability including design, manufacture, and procurement, again the same story with Arden: a very experienced team, very strong tenure, a good culture within their business, and again enhancing the earnings and margin profile. Both of those businesses have the ability to generate gross margin of more than double than our BAU margin.
We're also seeing some cross-business engagement and some cross-selling opportunities, there is the ability there for Arden to pick up some of the Shape's work that we do and we undertake, and they also have the overseas procurement capability that can assist Shape. Business been around for 28 years and they've got about 45 to 50 people, and looking forward to obviously assisting them to continue to grow.
Peter Marix-Evans
A warm welcome to our teams from Arden and from APS to the Shape Group, and looking forward to working closely with all of the Shape Group companies to ensure that we can maximize the profitability of the business. Just moving on to operational highlights, safety is at the forefront of everything we do, and we've talked a lot about that.
We prioritize a proactive safety culture. Really proud of our 23% increase in proactive safety and quality environmental observations.
That's our leaders out there identifying issues both good and bad before they happen to try and really pursue that resilient safety culture. Strong focus on training, EHSQ training, and the Shape Business School, and you'll see there that the stats typically and overall are trending the right way.
In saying that, there is no level of incident or injury that we accept, and we will continue to really push for driving an incident-free workplace and making sure that all of our sites have a positive impact on those that come into contact with them. From a partnership point of view, I mentioned earlier 320-plus projects, so that's fantastic result.
Even better, a +86 Net Promoter Score, which for those who know the Net Promoter Score system, very proud of that. That indicates that we are delivering exceptional customer service for our clients, which is why we have that repeat business.
88% of our projects achieve perfect delivery, perfect delivery is our own internal measure of how we deliver customer experience and exceptional customer service to our clients. At 88%, again very strong, however, still shows that we can continue to push and there's room for growth.
3,900-plus trusted subcontractors, that's very important in that our ability to grow and to scale and I've said before is mainly impacted by our people and how quickly we can identify, hire, and onboard and retain good people, but it also is impacted by our subcontractor base. That's a very strong and deep subcontractor base across Australia, and importantly, across the different sectors and capabilities, it really allows us to continue to have that growth.
From a people and culture point of view, 30% increase in our total workforce, and again we've talked about how quickly we can grow that workforce without impacting our culture, because we want to make sure that our people get a good employee experience, but also that they come in and they feel supported and trained. On to training, 6,000-plus, almost 7,000 hours allocated to training, particularly with so many new people coming on board, we want to make sure that we're giving them the skills and the training and the support to be successful.
That drives into promotion, 18% of our employees were promoted. We've got a very strong promote from within sort of culture, and we supplement that with obviously the new people as well.
Importantly, from a diversification, where female participation remains up very high, particularly for industry, 28% for the company, but importantly, it's circa on parity for our new entrants into the business. Just a couple of projects here so you can get a bit of a feel for some of the work that we've done.
I talked earlier about the DigiCo 20-megawatt upgrade in Sydney, so that was a fast-paced large data project for DigiCo. Went really well.
We built a team up there, and the team's worked hand in hand with the client with good relationship and a great outcome. Elysium Resort refurbishment in Noosa, again another really high-quality hotel project we've delivered up in Noosa.
IRT is in the aged care sector, so that was part of our push into aged care, and again there you'll see 16-month refurbishment, external and internal, and that's a new client for Shape on the back of the first job, we've also secured a second one with them as well. Moving along, just looking at some of our other projects: St Paul's Technologies in Adelaide, some modular work with the Manor Lakes Reserve Pavilion, and then UTAS Australian Maritime College as well down in Launceston.
Just a really good diverse range of projects, a diverse range of clients, sectors, etc. On to Scott's favorite subject, the financial management.
Scott Jamieson
Just a little bit more detail on the financial metrics. Revenue that we've talked about there, but I guess most importantly, yeah, that gross margin line item.
We've moved from 9.2 up to 9.8. Now that's really a combination of I guess three things: the modular business is generating a higher margin profile, also the contribution from Arden in the second half, and then of course it's the way that we procure and we've always looked at being disciplined around project selection and those types of things, but we always make sure that we're maximizing our entitlements and certainly maximizing the outcome.
I guess if people on the call are then trying to work out H1 to H2, I know at H1 we reported a 9.8%, and then of course we've acquired Arden. The reason that that 9.8% is relatively stable, it's because as a percentage of the revenue in the first half, modular generated around about 7% of our revenue in the first half.
The revenue in the second half jumped up quite significantly, but a lot of that was the BAU. Modular then's represented let's say 5% of the revenue in the second half, and then that's been replaced by around sort of 2, 2.5% of Arden's work in the second half.
Basically, one has offset the other, and that's given us the ability to maintain the 9.8%. Moving forward, of course, we'll have Arden for a full year, and then we've had the acquisition of APS and we'll have that also for a full year.
That does provide opportunity for some better margins moving forward. Of course the EBITDA margin, that's then flowing down from the gross margin, and in part of that is also the operating leverage that we're gaining.
If you go down to that bottom line there, you'll see that the operating expenses have moved from 6.7% and have now drifted down to 6.5%. We're starting to see for every dollar in revenue that we're generating, we're getting a better net return on that extra dollar, which is highlighting the operating leverage.
Operating cash flows though, still very strong, more than 100% conversion rate, and so if you look at the net profit after tax, obviously that's a function of all of those areas that we've spoken about, which has enabled us to get to a 50% increase on last year. Moving into some points on on liquidity, obviously our cash position is is very strong, and we talked earlier the breakup between cash and the marketable securities.
We look at our high position and our low position, and that's reflected in that right-hand graph, and that just shows a typical monthly cash flow cycle. That's the average daily cash over a 12-month period, you can see that there's an outflow of cash and then it builds up, and then there's a dip and and then it builds up again.
They correspond with the the relevant security of payment act legislation that applies in each of our jurisdictions, and that dictates the the payment terms there, and of course we're collecting every day day from clients. The reason that we do carry a lot of cash, that is primarily due to not only the capital management, but that it does support our pre-qualifications and external financial assessments, and there's various ratios that that we need to abide by to position us to undertake projects in in excess of of $100 million.
Included in that number though is restricted cash of $14.2 million. Now that's not restricted because of any bank covenants or any of those sorts of things.
What that is, it's in relation to project trust accounts, project retention accounts. Depending on the job, for example, in WA, in Queensland, we often run these project trust accounts.
New South Wales has a has a retention trust account for any project over $20 million, the subcontractor retention must sit in in those accounts. What that means is that the money flows in those accounts, and then of course we pay the subcontractors and suppliers, and and and our fee comes out of the accounts, but for that reason, it's restricted cash.
We still generate interest earnings and things, but just to highlight that that it's the reason that we've disclosed that that way. Peter.
Peter Marix-Evans
Thanks, Scott.
Scott Jamieson
Just jumping into the pipeline there that we talk about, the 4.8 billion and also the backlog order book. The main thing that we want to get out of these two slides is that, as Peter mentioned earlier with the office sector, we're not moving away from the office sector, but what it is, it's becoming a smaller percentage of a much bigger pie now.
If you look at that backlog order book, the office sector makes up about 41%, and the other key component there is education of 23%. If you then look at the pipeline, because the pipeline has then grown, and you can see those colors are starting to be more dispersed across the wagon wheel, the office sector is making up about 24% of that, obviously there's a bigger chunk there's coming through by virtue of data centers.
The data centers, as everyone on this call knows, is far, far bigger than what that pipeline suggests, but it's there for illustrative purposes. Our tender conversion rate still remains very strong at 46%, another rule of thumb that we sort of use is that that pipeline there, we will tender half of that and we will win half of that.
Peter Marix-Evans
Thanks for that. Just moving on to, and we're nearly there, bear with us, sector diversification from an outlook point of view.
Commercial, the widening gap between prime and secondary assets continues to drive a lot of activity there and a lot of inquiry, which is fantastic, and we're seeing even some conversion on commercial buildings, which is good. Hotel, entertainment continues to increase, some of that linked to Brisbane infrastructure investment, certainly providing both opportunities in general, but also for modular as well.
From a retail point of view, that exposure to both discretionary and non-discretionary retail spend, Arden and APS really provides as an acceleration into those areas. As Scott mentioned earlier, we're already seeing some cross-selling between Arden and APS and Shape, which is, yeah, really really good, and our modular business, which is fantastic to see.
Calling out the critical facilities, data centers, that's a priority sector that we're targeting and growing. We've built quite a strong team amongst the Shape people to be able to deliver on that.
That pipeline has increased significantly. As I mentioned earlier, we've completed the 20 megawatt for DigiCo.
That pipeline does include the next stage of the DigiCo project, which is 88 megawatt, which we have not secured that project, we are currently engaged to deliver ECI services, so that will continue to evolve. Should we secure that project, that's a large data center project that we'll be able to put the team straight on.
If we were not to secure it or if it was to delay in any way, then we just put those people onto other projects that are in that 4. 5, 6, 7 billion dollar pipeline.
A really strong growth area, we'll continue to look at it. We've got a lot of inquiry particularly on the back of skilling ourselves up with the right skill set and capability of people with a track record in data center.
Defense, really important, we continue to see work coming back on after the Defense Strategic Review, our opportunities continue to increase there, both from a government point of view, but also from a public sector point of view that supports the investment in defense. That's really really strong potential for us going forward, and we continue to invest in our defense team as well.
Complementary experience enables us to transfer capability between sectors, by that we mean if you look at a hotel, we do a lot of hotel experience and we do health. If you combine hotel and health, that sort of goes into the aged care and social housing, that sort of stuff.
Those complementary skill sets allow us to continue to diversify. Modular construction, that capability continues to grow, and we continue to invest in that area.
We're strong believers in modular construction and MMC in Australia, and it will be supported even stronger going forward by both government and private sector, and we'll continue to invest in that. From a social institutional, educational, social housing, health, the macro trends continue to drive investment in those areas, and that sectors also support a range of the Shape business units, including the modular business.
Then finally, on the right-hand side there, industrial. Mining, agricultural, selective opportunities, again we continue to remain opportunistically in those markets, and again that industrial sector will support a large number of the Shape business units.
From an outlook, really well positioned to capture those opportunities, particularly as we continue to diversify. Changing occupier needs, asset repositioning, investment in critical facilities and social infrastructure, just a very strong pipeline of work and holds well for the future.
Office remains a core market for us and we will continue to pursue premium assets, government-anchored workplace transformation opportunities, and it really is an area that Shape have a very strong DNA and skill set. We'll continue to accelerate the growth of our data center capability and our specialist team as I mentioned, and support that growing pipeline.
Then diversification reduces our reliance on any one market. I think the really important thing there is that when data centers booms, we can take some revenue there, when modular is booming, we can take some revenue there.
It really allows the business or the group to pivot not just to follow the money, but to follow the best commercial outcomes as far as where are the best contracts, what's the best risk profile, so that again we continue to grow that profit not just at a reasonable rate, but at a both a sustainable and a safe rate as well, which is very important to us. Regional growth, key drivers there: we've established full-services branches in Gold Coast, Newcastle, Tasmania, in Tassie we've got Hobart and Lonnie, Geelong, and Townsville.
Continued investment in those local relationships, local supply chain, and local teams, which is very important, also our ability to transfer teams across not just regions, but across sectors and to suit the local market cycles, and a good track record of doing that. Then modular by Shape portable delivery model strengthens our ability to service that regional and remote work.
Again, at the moment we've got two manufacturing facilities, both in Adelaide and in Victoria, and we'll continue to look for opportunities to expand on that as we see the pipeline develop and particularly on the back of government programs where we see the government invest strongly in a market. From an outlook, our regional markets continue to offer targeted growth opportunities, we are seeing some good strong growth, particularly areas like Tasmania, and again with that ability to pivot our teams and our work just allows us to continue to follow where that investment's going.
From the capability, some of the key drivers: for the new build, you can see the project on the right-hand side there, that's the CDU up in Darwin. We just picked up a Master Builders award for that just this week, really proud of that for the team up there.
We're targeting new build projects that have shorter duration and typically a simple build, we put the structure up and then it's all about what's inside. Again with that, I guess not fascination, but a leaning towards a risk profile of shorter duration, faster projects, and predominantly internal.
Modular by Shape, focus on structural demand across education, living, defense, entertainment. We're continuing to see that demand grow through sectors as people become more au fait and more educated around what modular is and what it isn't, we'll continue to strengthen on that.
The Arden acquisition strengthens our ability for both facilities maintenance, but also multi-site rollout. That team are used to having longer sort of form MSA arrangements with large suppliers, predominantly fuel, retail, but also in the small-format and large-format retail across Australia, just really well established and having that ability to service regional and remote.
Then finally there from a market outlook, we will continue to expand capability selectively aligning that investment with specialist talent and market-mapped to that pipeline that we can see coming.
Scott Jamieson
That's the end of our slide deck, I'll pause there, and I think Mel was going to see if we've got some questions to moderate.
Mel Singh
We do, Pete. I might start with a couple of the analysts who have their hands raised.
John Hynd from Petra, I'll ask you to talk.
John Hynd
Thanks, Mel. Morning, Pete and Scott.
Scott Jamieson
Morning. Yes, John.
John Hynd
Great. I've got a couple of questions, but let's start with, I think you sort of touched on it a little bit earlier, Scott, the core business looks like it's becoming a bit more efficient in terms of the second half, the revenue is up quite strongly half on half, with modular contributing less, and then office being a smaller contribution as well.
How should we think about the margin going forward here at that 9.8% level?
Scott Jamieson
If we try and break it out a little bit, if you look at, yeah, you got sort of your BAU margins that are running at sort of circa 9%, let's say, and then you look at the modular, and then you look at Arden, and then you take into account APS, which is of course not in our numbers, and then in broad terms, they're generating up to twice the margin that the underlying business is generating. You'll see there that modular generated about 74-odd million dollars.
Taking those other businesses into account with the Arden and APS businesses, again in round numbers, you're sort of looking at $80 to $85 million worth of revenue on those businesses. Of course that'll give you a little bit of an insight on what the margin profile potentially can look like moving forward.
John Hynd
There's definitely scope for some further expansion. What about the order book?
It looks like it's timing when it does move around period to period. Is this also the Sydney 1 work coming, or being completed or coming out of that as
Scott Jamieson
well? That certainly makes a difference.
If you took the point in time when you're saying coming off a little bit, you're obviously referring to the 31st of December, because we had, I think from memory, that was $686 million. Of that, we had circa $100 million in there from the DigiCo project that you're referring to.
The majority of that has been turned over during H2. You're quite right that the backlog in relation to that project has obviously thinned it.
Really it is the composition of what's making up those numbers at the 31st of December versus the 30th of June. If we look at the 31st of December, there was three projects in the backlog that had more than $50 million of work to do, so that was $247 million worth of work.
There was also three projects over 20 million that totaled about 80 million bucks. Whereas you roll that forward now to the 30th of June 2026, we don't have any projects that make up what the backlog component of the projects that are over 50 million, and we've got about six projects that are over 20 million totaling just over 200 million.
What that actually says is that if you start to try and apply different ratios and get a forward look of what the revenues might be, we've always historically talked about if you're taking the backlog position and you're trying to apply a multiple to that backlog to look at what the future 12 months might look like, we talked in the range of 1.7 to 2.5 times. You go back to 30 June 2025, just looking at that composition there, we had no projects basically over $20 million in the backlog, therefore you look at that was probably closer to mid-2s as far as the run rate goes.
You then come to the 31st of December and you look at that composition, and we were sort of saying, well, maybe it's high 1s. Now we're looking at 30th of June 2026, and we're probably early 2s.
The other thing if you want to start to look at future revenues, you've obviously got that backlog, you apply a ratio of early 2s, in addition to that though, of course we've got the Arden business and we've got the APS business. Their profile of projects and the rate at which they turn over is much more significant than that of Shape, therefore you'd have to apply a different position.
You almost have to take an estimate of revenue to put on top of everything that we just spoke about.
John Hynd
No, that definitely makes sense, especially I suppose if you are, using my words, becoming more efficient with BAU work and you're looking at something over two times, that's a pretty strong indication with that backlog for the second half. Okay.
Can you just give us some color on D&A as well, please? Obviously you've sort of consolidated Arden properly now, you've had some time to look at how things move around, and you've got APS as well.
I'd love a hard number, what it might look like in '27 just for ease's sake. Oh,
Scott Jamieson
I'll give you a general sort of split out of that. The D&A, I guess the D&A is broken up into I guess there's three main components.
Of course you've got your AASB 16, which is basically your depreciation on your office leases. There's that component.
Then you've got your depreciation on your normal PP&E, and then of course you've got your amortization on your PPA, which is that purchase price allocation. That's the intangibles that when you acquire the business, there's a certain amount that's allocated to intangibles.
Part of the allocation that goes to intangibles of course is in relation to the customer relationships, and that customer relationships is then amortized. Roughly speaking, I think the modular business as far as the PPA amortization goes, that's a couple hundred thousand.
The Arden at six months, it's about 400,000. If you look at underlying PP&E, you're probably around the $3 million, and then of course you've got your AASB at about $2 million.
John Hynd
That's
Scott Jamieson
pretty high level. I can certainly catch up with you over a beer, mate, and give you the exact numbers if that helps on the breakout last year.
John Hynd
No, that's pretty good. There's not much movement really from an annualized perspective as we look forward there into '27?
Scott Jamieson
Of course you'll have more D&A of course with the new acquisition,
John Hynd
so
Scott Jamieson
that'll obviously be added on top.
John Hynd
That's right. Okay.
Look, one or two more, sorry. With Arden, it looks like you've broken out maybe some of it in the notes, in I think in Note 2.
Can you give me some color on what's exactly in that number, because I think it's a 50 million top line annually, and you've only sort of shown us about 4 million in that number. What exactly is in that 4 million in Note 2, and then I'm assuming the rest rolls up into the core business revenue?
Scott Jamieson
That's right. Majority of Arden's work is actually fit-out work.
It's obviously in a different segment, and a lot of that work is in retail. In addition to that, they obviously do also a lot of maintenance work.
That line item that you're referring to is just the maintenance work for which Arden does, which is only a small component of Arden's overall revenue, and of course it's only for six months.
John Hynd
There's no other, you've got another small facilities business, there's none of that in that line?
Scott Jamieson
No, well the same thing with that. That's what we call AFM, which has a facilities maintenance component in there, but they've also been undertaking some small works, which we've actually allocated to the fit-out or the construction revenue side of things.
They have recently picked up about eight buildings for maintenance for Charter Hall, and of course that will then be recorded as maintenance revenue rather than what we have been calling it, which is construction revenue. That business, there's no split out, so that line item is solely related to Arden and Arden's maintenance component, which is a small component of their overall revenue.
John Hynd
Okay. We amiss of me not to ask about DGT, the next stage.
It looks like it's pretty big, it's sort of 900-odd mil if you break out the percentages you've given us today. When do you expect to hear if you've been successful on that one, guys?
Peter Marix-Evans
We're still working with DigiCo to provide them with a firm price and program. That is moving along.
I would anticipate it'll be in the next month or two. Does depend I guess a lot on DigiCo and what they're doing with a tenant or tenants, and what their timeline is.
As I've always said, that's a fantastic project. We'd love to be a part of it.
We'll only be a part of it if it's under the right terms and conditions and it suits the Shape business as well, because again, if you look at that pipeline, it's a very robust pipeline and we'll continue to make sure that we won't sort of get too starry-eyed. We've got a good relationship with them, the stage one handed over really well, yeah, by all means, it should be moving on it in the next month or two.
John Hynd
Okay. You're geared up sufficiently for that?
I assume you do, you've already done stage one, you've got the
Peter Marix-Evans
right staff, you've got the Yeah. That's right.
We're already doing early works there to prepare. Regardless of whether it's us or whether they ran a different process, we've already started on assisting the client with some early works, that sort of stuff.
Regardless of that, like I say, the revenue that's coming through in data centers is attractive. The type of work is suitable, particularly with the brownfields projects that are coming up, because with this AI data center versus the traditional data halls, a lot of the existing facilities will require densification.
What that does is put into a live environment, and that really suits Shape's skill set. Regardless of whether it's DigiCo or another DC, we will be pursuing data center work going forward, and we have skilled up a team and continued to build that capability so that we are able to, yeah, pursue that revenue stream for an experience.
John Hynd
Okay. Sorry, one more, Scott.
Cash conversion has softened a fair bit in '26 versus '25. Was '25 just an anomaly, like was was it just a very good year and like a year and is sort of normalizing with your days payable and your days receivable now?
Scott Jamieson
Firstly, I'm not concerned because it's still a very strong cash conversion. Last year was obviously very high, but then if you start to look into things like the reconciliation of the cash flow, you'll notice that you're looking at the change in receivables versus the change in payables back against last year, and there was more of an increase in the payables last year.
It's purely a timing thing. There has been some small movements around the Security of Payments Act and the legislation there.
For example, Victoria used to be on a 30-day regime and now they've moved into a 20-day regime. Again, there's just some timing differences and we always see it.
Again, it depends on the size of different projects that are happening, and one day can make a big difference obviously when you're looking at a set of financials over a financial year. If someone pays on the 30th of June versus someone paying on the 1st of July, and if you've got a progress claim there that's north of $10 million, then that can obviously move your operating cash flows around a little bit.
Still strong, and if you average it over the two years, a very good position, very comfortable, and absolutely no concerns.
John Hynd
All right. Thanks, guys.
I'll jump back in the queue.
Mel Singh
Thanks, John. We've also got Ben Yun from Ords.
Ben, if you'd like to unmute.
Ben Yun
Hi, Mel. You got me?
Mel Singh
Yeah.
Ben Yun
Cool. Hi, gents.
Thanks for taking the questions. Just on that order book, if we look at the first half number of 686 mil, did that include Arden?
Scott Jamieson
No, yep, we didn't have that in there, yeah. Again, look, Arden's very small.
It's, in fact, obviously don't take this the wrong way, but in the scheme of the number, it's an immaterial number. The reason for that is the size of Arden's jobs and the duration of their jobs is much smaller.
They'll be going through jobs in three, four weeks, whereas our average sort of duration's three to six months. Their backlog is just turned over so quickly.
They're winning and working and winning and working. It won't make a significant difference at all to that backlog number or any ratios that you'd want to apply to that.
Ben Yun
Understood. In terms of modeling, I guess the revenue numbers you provided to us when at time of acquiring, they still stand or we expect anything material above or below?
Scott Jamieson
No, moving into FY27, yeah, right here right now, there's no reason for us to believe that those revenue numbers aren't relatively accurate.
Ben Yun
Okay. Cool.
If we can move to education, a decent chunk of the order book again. Can you give us an idea of how much of that would fall into the modular bucket?
Scott Jamieson
As far as the revenue goes or the backlog goes?
Ben Yun
In terms of the backlog.
Scott Jamieson
It's probably sort of 50-50, because most of their work is in the education sector.
Ben Yun
Cool. I take it that expansion of the Melbourne facility, is that a pretty decent indication as to where that work is coming from?
Scott Jamieson
Partly, and the reason for that is, yeah, we've done a few things in relation to that facility. There is a couple of sheds down there we've enhanced that just so that we can get more throughput going through that facility.
When we originally acquired that facility, we could probably do sort of $35 million, whereas now that we've redesigned a few things, we've expanded some things, we've created some more space, we've rented some space from a neighbor, and so that just enables us to improve the capacity in that particular facility to north of 50 million.
Ben Yun
Beauty. Got a few more, but I'll jump back in the queue.
Appreciate your time.
Scott Jamieson
No problems. Cheers.
Mel Singh
Thanks, Ben. Abe from E&P, Abe, would you like to ask your questions?
Abe Akra
Thanks, Mel. Hey, Pete.
Hey, Scott. Solid results.
I'm just going to have a follow-up on the DigiCo piece, please. $800 mil you've outlined.
The quantum is a bit greater than what I suspected. Just curious whether that includes hardware and subcontracted revenue to third parties in that number?
Peter Marix-Evans
Oh, it definitely includes, yeah, there's some large subcontracts in that. It's, when you look at it as a 800 plus whatever it is, it looks like a big contract, but when you actually break it down to the amount of services, these are significant services projects, the size of the subcontracts and the size of the client-supplied equipment and, so that doesn't include client supplied, but it certainly doesn't include a lot of kit, a lot of switchgear, a lot of all that sort of stuff, and some large subcontracts.
When you break it down, it's not quite as scary as it sounds and it's certainly within the wheelhouse of what we're able to commit to. Yep.
Abe Akra
Is there a lot of pass-through gross margin, you won't be earning that 9% odd BAU on that whole figure? Am I reading that correctly?
Peter Marix-Evans
The 9% BAU is on our total revenue, so that would be similar. The margins on projects of that size are typically less from a percentage point of view because they're such a high percent, but most of our work that we do is pass-through in that we subcontract everything we do other than our supervision and project management services.
Abe Akra
Very clear. I suppose the total data center opportunity is 900 mil, 800 mil was the Phase 2 DigiCo project.
That delta of the 100 mil on the remaining pipeline, is that a different customer data center opportunity?
Peter Marix-Evans
There's a number of smaller ones in there. We're reasonably conservative in the way that we track them, even the DigiCo one, if we go back to the half year, we didn't have it in there at the full 800, because we don't want to skew our pipeline and we want to make sure that pipeline's very real to the business and what we can do.
We've got a number of other DC providers that we're talking to. There's an influx of work.
There won't be enough builders that have the capability to do the work that's coming up, yeah, going forward, we'll look to remain opportunistically as to who we partner up with.
Abe Akra
Yep, very clear. I suppose, yeah, Scott, I alluded to this earlier regarding I guess gross margins going backwards in your core fit-out business given less modular mix.
Just curious whether there was any gross margin movement between the segments you play in the second half?
Scott Jamieson
Oh, there's always gross margin movement, but look, they bounce around a little bit, and just because of the amount of projects that we're doing, we're doing sort of 400-plus projects. Some will be higher, some will be lower, and they tend to sort of even themselves out.
We generally get a fairly consistent sort of slow increase as you've seen in the numbers of late.
Peter Marix-Evans
There's certainly nothing structural in that, Abe.
Abe Akra
Yep, no worries. I guess lastly before going back in the queue, other than you alluded to the DigiCo Phase 2 ECI, are there any other ECIs you guys are working on that you can give us some color on?
Peter Marix-Evans
Oh, there'd be a number of ECIs across the general business. As far as for data centers, nothing that we're signed up to do.
We're doing like I say, early discussions with a number of different providers. Again, if you go back in Shape's history, we've delivered 1 megawatt sort of in 30 years.
In the last 12 months, we've delivered 20. We've geared up.
We've got a strong team. We've brought in some real heavy hitters, and really it's quite an impressive team that we've built up, both to deliver the 20 megawatt and also to deliver whatever we do going forward.
We also don't want to go from zero to hero straightaway. We want to make sure that what we do is sustainable and repeatable and that we continue to deliver that exceptional customer service for our clients.
If you try and grow too quickly, your ability to have the bandwidth to deliver that same exceptional customer experience can be at risk of dilution. We'll be very careful about that going forward.
Abe Akra
Very clear. Thanks, guys.
Peter Marix-Evans
Thank you.
Mel Singh
Thanks. Pete, Matt from Moelis has asked, "Can you provide some clarity on how the momentum for the June quarter carried into FY27?"
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Scott Jamieson
guess we've got, obviously there's still a very strong backlog there of that $628 million, so that certainly sets us up very well moving into FY27. We're six weeks into the financial year.
We've had some good success already, momentum remains strong.
Mel Singh
Thanks, Scott. Can you talk to who your main competitors are and what is Shape's sustainable competitive advantage?
Peter Marix-Evans
I guess if we look across the country, we don't have a truly national competitor. In different states, we'll come up against different builders that are either local and/or across a number of states in Australia.
We're probably Australia's only truly national fit-out, refurbishment, and construction services provider in that other businesses say that they're across Australia, but they don't actually have established offices. They will work across Australia.
Our competitors, if you looked at the people that we tender the most against in any 12-month period, would be FDC, Buildcorp, but after that, it drops away and gets really fragmented really quickly. As far as a sustainable point of difference, really, and we've talked about this before, it all comes down to our people.
That Net Promoter Score, +86, again, we hire the best people in the industry, we treat them well, we keep them engaged, and we grow them, and we educate them, and we provide training and that promotion, and that provides some really strong loyalty, we have really good retention rates, and then we have those amazing people go and deliver exceptional customer service for our clients.
Mel Singh
Great. Thanks, Pete.
Just adding to that, NPAT and EPS growth has been spectacular in the recent years. Do you expect this bottom-line growth rate to slow down owing to the D&A from the Arden and APS acquisitions?
Scott Jamieson
D&A obviously makes up a component of that and flows through and is above the net profit line item. In saying that though, when you're taking those into account, the net profit position after allowing for the D&A in those particular businesses is still greater than the underlying or core Shape net profit margins.
Mel Singh
Thanks, Scott. Then if we just shift back to data centers, can you just give us an idea, there's strong structural tailwinds in that space, are you shifting focus toward capturing a larger share of these high-growth projects moving forward, and how does the margin on the data center fit-outs compare to other sectors like office and education?
Peter Marix-Evans
Margins differ project to project, and the margin is commensurate with the risk that's on the project. Typically, once you get up to super-large projects or super-large, up above a couple hundred million, the margins tend to restrict because it's obviously a larger number, smaller percentage typically.
In saying that, with the types of work that we're pursuing in those sectors or in that area from data center point of view, it's brownfields typically, live environment, the margins should remain reasonably consistent with the Shape BAU, which carries out that work. As far as will we continue to look at it, yeah, absolutely.
It's again, we look at the three and five years non-residential construction starts, both industrial and data centers has a very strong piece of the revenue pie that will come, hence why we've geared up and have been building an established team for that to pursue that and to deliver the work that we're currently looking at, but also to pursue future work. We'll continue to pursue that.
Again, like everything else we do with Shape, we want to maintain that diversified portfolio of revenue so that if any market does have a decline, we can pivot really quickly into the other markets.
Mel Singh
Thanks, Pete. That brings us to the end of the Q&A, I'll pass back to you for final comments.
Peter Marix-Evans
Awesome. Thank you.
Really appreciate everyone for taking the time. Would be remiss of me to finish without thanking all of our clients, subcontractors, consultants, and of course our teams of people around the country that have delivered these fantastic results.
Scott and I will be on roadshow and that sort of stuff, happy to take questions and reach out to people going forward, but again, thank you for your time today and look forward to continuing to communicate with you closely going forward. Thank you.
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