ELVALHALCOR Hellenic Copper and Aluminium Industry S.A.

ELVALHALCOR Hellenic Copper and Aluminium Industry S.A.

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Q4 FY2025 · Earnings Call TranscriptMarch 4, 2026

Dimitris Theodorakatos

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome. Thank you for joining the live webcast of ElvalHalcor for the full-year results of 2025.

Mr. Angelos Giazitzoglou, that is the Chief Financial Officer of the ElvalHalcor Group, and I, Dimitris Theodorakatos, Consolidation and IR Manager of the Group, are going to provide you with key insights for our performance.

At the end of the presentation, we will conduct a Q&A session where you are welcome to ask any question regarding our group and its financial performance. Now, let me walk you through the presentation and the highlights of the year.

The group delivered a solid year-on-year performance amid a challenging and volatile economic environment. Despite the imposition of 50% tariffs on aluminium and copper products imports in the US, the unfavorable sales mix, raw materials and scrap constraints, and increased energy and overall inflationary costs, our operational profitability, as adjusted EBITDA, remained resilient at almost the same levels as in prior year, reaching €236 million, down by 0.6%.

Our sales volume noticed a 2.6% year-on-year increase, reaching 600,000 tonnes, driven by the packaging sector of the aluminium segment. Our robust free cash flows supported deleveraging.

Net debt stood at €605 million, down by €38 million from 2024. It is worth noting that LME prices, due to tight supply and new era adaptation in raw materials supply, put pressure on our working capital needs at the year-end.

The reduction in debt levels, combined with lower interest rates, led to lower financial costs. Lower positive accounting metal results and losses from the remeasurement of financial instruments to fair value, partially offset by reduced finance costs, resulted in earnings before taxes at €125 million.

Net debt-to-adjusted EBITDA ratio improved to 2.6 from 2.7 last year, allowing us to pay dividends of €34 million, or 9 cents per share, during the fiscal year 2025, and also to propose to shareholders' general meeting a dividend payment of 11 cents per share from 2025 results. It should be noted that the aforementioned proposal for dividend is under the approval of the General Assembly on May.

I will now turn the floor over to Mr. Giazitzoglou for his comments.

Angelos?

Angelos Giazitzoglou

Thank you, Dimitris. Before we make a deep dive into numbers, it is critical to examine the macroeconomic environment.

Metal prices trended higher through '25, reflecting tighter inventories and energy-linked smelting costs. Copper rallied strongly to year-end on supply constraints and demand momentum.

Natural gas prices, even though they started to decline in the second quarter of '25, the full-year average was above '24. Electricity remained volatile and moved higher than '24 due to weather and renewable swings.

Inflation moved in a more stable direction, yet at levels where the pressures on prices and costs were evident and persistent. European Central Bank pivoted to gradual easing in '25 with rates trading lower, reducing finance costs.

In a nutshell, higher LME supports revenue, but increases working capital needs. Energy raises operating costs and pressure margins, when lower rates reduce finance costs.

Overall, the operating backdrop was mixed. Now, let's see how all this affected our cost base.

Total costs, excluding of course metals, rose by 9.5% year-on-year, driven by inflationary pressures. Labor costs, accounting for the largest share of our total cost at 28%, reflecting wage inflation.

Energy, another cost driver for us, demonstrated an increase due to prices. Of course, it is not a game changer for us, but yet again the elevated cost is taking away part of our profitability and creates an unfair advantage for other companies operating in lower-price regions.

All other categories have slightly changed compared to previous year. In an environment so challenging, the company stays vigilant, taking necessary actions and ongoing initiatives to mitigate the risk from external factors.

Now, let's see how sales volume evolved quarter-by-quarter. Headwinds, which started in the third quarter of '25 due to trade measures and global tensions, continued to affect the last quarter of the year.

Aluminium segment sustained momentum stronger quarters, the second and the third. Although last quarter appeared weaker than the previous three, it stood higher than the respective quarters of '23 and '24 by 5.9% and 2.9% respectively.

Copper segment moved softer in the last quarter with a more balanced delivery's volume evolution. However, it is obvious that the strong semester for the segment is traditionally the first one.

Now, from quarters to markets. The fourth quarter of the year demonstrated the same volatility in most of the markets.

In the aluminium segment, the most resilient market remains packaging, accounting for 64% of our total sales. In a positive direction was transportation, when a softer track, building and construction and industrial applications.

In the copper segment, energy and power networks, supported by expanding data center activity, showed a healthy improvement. In contrast, industrial applications declined by 9%, mirroring weaker manufacturing activity.

Moving from markets to geographical areas. The company is export oriented, with presence in more than 90 countries worldwide.

Approximately 95% of our revenues are generated outside Greece in both segments. The European Union remains the core market, with incremental exposure to the Americas and other regions.

I want to reiterate that geographic diversification supports sales volume stability and reduces single-market risk. Now, from our footprint to areas, let's turn into the financials.

As noted on the cost breakdown slide, energy cost trended higher, putting pressure on operating profitability. However, the company demonstrated a resilient performance, managing to navigate the energy-related pressure and disruptions in scrap markets.

In the aluminium segment, an early-year rebound in profitability was followed by headwinds in scrap markets due to tariffs, which pressured adjusted EBITDA to lower levels. In the copper segment, the second half of the year was weaker as well, driven by the increased energy costs and the unfavorable mix.

In addition to that, the imposition of tariffs in the middle of the second semester affected sales volume and eventually profitability. Let's zoom out from quarters to profit per ton.

Leaving behind seasonality and differences in quarters, let's see what every ton of final products contributes to operational profitability. In the aluminium segment, despite the challenging and volatile environment, the adjusted EBITDA per ton rose from €335 in '24 to €347 in '25.

Although in the single digits at 4%, adjusted EBITDA demonstrated a stable delivery. Drivers for that increase were an improved product mix, better commercial prices, and of course sales volume.

In the copper segment, the adjusted EBITDA per ton stood lower than the previous year by 12% in €509 per ton from €578, driven by inflation-related pressure and unfavorable sales mix. Moving to some profitability ratios.

Despite the challenging and volatile environment shaped by protectionist measures and the geopolitical uncertainty, the company managed to increase sales volume by 2.6% to 600,000 tonnes. Operational profitability amounted to €236 million, representing a slight decline compared to the previous year.

Cost headwinds from higher energy prices, inflationary pressures, and scrap market disruptions were offset by higher volumes and improved selling prices. Revenue amounted to €3.6 billion, representing an increase by 5.1% compared to '24, driven by higher sales volume and an uplift in LME prices.

Metal results remained flat at the same level as '24 at €6 million, and earnings before taxes maintained momentum, slightly lower than '24, at €125 million. Now, a deep dive to earnings before taxes evolution.

2025 was a year marked by significant challenges, volatility, and uncertainty. The imposition of tariffs, the persistent inflationary pressures, and the ongoing geopolitical tensions created a difficult environment, keeping most markets on a slow trajectory.

Despite all that, the company managed an increase in volumes, driven by the resilient growth in some markets, like packaging and energy and power networks. Headwinds from energy costs and inflation were evident and partly offset increased conversion prices.

SG&A modestly went up due to inflation. Financial costs improved by €9 million on lower interest rates and lower gross debt.

Other investments kept profitability lower by €6 million. Now, profits are critical, but cash is the king.

On the next slide, the relevant waterfall. Despite higher LME prices, challenges in the European scrap market, and market volatility, the company generated robust free cash flow of €76 million.

The starting point was the strong EBITDA of €226 million. During the period, we paid €36 million in interest and €15 million in taxes.

After that, we had sufficient headroom to invest €89 million, to reduce debt by €70 million, and to return €39 million to our shareholders via a significantly higher dividend. Now, let's move from cash generation to working capital and net debt.

Working capital increased by 3.5% versus '24, reflecting higher LME prices. In addition, scrap market disruptions led us to increase inventories to ensure uninterrupted production across our facilities.

Despite the headwinds, the working capital-to-sales ratio remained at a sustainable 15%, below the prior year. Maintaining the same pace from '24, we further decreased our gross debt by €64 million, leveraging the strong profitability of the year.

Net debt improved to €605 million from €643 million in '24. Resilient profitability with lower debt improved the leverage ratio to 2.6 times.

Pressure in working capital from LME prices, the uncertainty in markets, the energy costs, and inflation crafted an environment where less exposure to sensitivity of rates is critical. The strong cash flow generation enabled us to improve our gross debt, and along with the rate cuts, our financial costs declined by 20% year-on-year to €36 million.

Now, with a healthy balance sheet in place, let's see our capex. Completing our last big investment plan in '23, we entered a period where small improvements and maintenance capex are in place.

In the copper segment, capex for the year totalled to €29 million, focusing on improving production flexibility, optimizing copper sourcing, and increasing the use of cost-efficient materials. In the aluminium segment, capex of €61 million was directed to hot rolling infrastructure and to equipment upgrades to enable quality improvements in value-added flexible packaging solutions.

Before we take your questions, let me summarize the company's performance. 2025 unfolded in a challenging operating environment with higher LME and energy prices.

Additionally, volatility in trade and the disruption in scrap markets enhanced the uncertainty. However, the company weathered cost pressures and maintained momentum, increasing volumes by 2.6% to 600,000 tonnes.

Operational profitability reached the amount of €236 million, modestly lower year-on-year. Free cash flow of 60 of €76 million was sufficient to fund capital expenditure of €89 million, reduce gross debt by €64 million, and support a €39 million dividend, resulting in net debt of €605 million.

Having said that, we are not complacent, but we remain vigilant on costs, energy, and trade dynamics as we enter the next period with a stronger balance sheet, clear priorities, and disciplined execution. Let's now proceed to address any questions you may have.

Dimitris Theodorakatos

Thank you for your attention. We would like to inform you that there are two options to submit your questions.

The first one is by raising your hand, or by submitting it on the Q&A tab, both of the options at the end of the screen.

Angelos Giazitzoglou

Probably we explained everything so well that we don't have any questions. No, we do have.

Dimitris Theodorakatos

I think there is one at the bottom, yes. Yeah.

Okay. Outlook.

Yeah.

Angelos Giazitzoglou

"Could you give us guidance for '26?" from Mr.

Morfiris. Despite persistent macroeconomic uncertainty and elevated energy costs that may continue to weigh on operational profitability, the company remains cautiously optimistic.

This is something that I must say, and we have to admit that. Of course, recent developments in the Middle East add a further layer of geopolitical risk and could lead to higher energy prices, increased freight costs, and insurances, and probably new supply chain disruptions.

I want to reiterate that we remain vigilant, and we monitor the developments and assess potential impact. Let me say that the company has already demonstrated the resilience with continued increases in market share and sales volume in both segments, despite all this geopolitical uncertainty and elevated raw material costs.

Now, from Vassilis Roumantzis, "Thank you for the presentation. Can you please provide an update on first quarter of '26?"

I think that I described what we can say for '26. Of course, all these new developments in Middle East are, as I said, are putting a layer of uncertainty and, of course, increasing challenges in our environment.

I think that it is very early to see the full implication from all these tensions, but the company is very well positioned to mitigate the risk from any implications in Middle East. We did that in the past, and we believe that we can do the same in the future also.

Again from Vassilis Roumantzis, also, "Can you provide an estimate for '26 capex?" ElvalHalcor is a company that never stop investing.

For the time being, we don't have any new big plans for '26. I think that this is the wise thing to do as a company due to all these geopolitical tensions and this uncertainty in markets.

As we said before, we always evaluate new plans. We always are following the developments, and when we see the opportunity to make the next step, we will do it.

As I said, in the past, we invested a lot, and we are an industry that we cannot stop invest. Now, George Katsikas, "Can you give us more color about the tariffs and how they affected you?

I think in previous updates you said that they would not have a significant impact." Yes.

We told that when the first imposition of tariffs was at 25% for the aluminium, and it was during the webcast for the first quarter performance, and that was true that the impact from 25% tariffs was not significant for aluminium. When the tariffs went to 50%, this window of opportunity starting to close.

The same happened for copper also when they imposed tariffs during August again for 50%. The biggest issue in terms of tariffs was not the quantities that declined in US sales, but the disruptions that we faced in Europe, and especially in scrap.

Prices went up in US because scrap was out of this regulation of tariffs, and American producers took a lot of scrap from Europe with higher prices. European suppliers sent most of the quantities in US, we experienced a significant shortage in Europe.

That was one of the biggest problems that we faced. Fortunately, the situation was more balanced at the end of the year.

We saw prices moving more lower than they used to be in '25. We didn't see this shortages of scrap from Europe as we experienced at the middle of the year.

Again, we believe that as a company, we managed to weather these challenges by securing the smooth operation of our factories. There is no doubt that this is a difficult environment, and these difficulties are not coming out without a cost in terms of profitability.

Without knowing exactly the details, I have to say that it seems that the European Union has decided to take measures to protect scrap leakages. If something like that happens, it would be a very positive development for sustainable growth in both segments.

A question from Leda Calamara, "What is your estimate for copper, aluminium demand in '26?" We don't see significant changes in '26 compared to '25.

There are some markets that are having a steady growth, like packaging or data centers. There are some other markets that more soft and are more sluggish.

If we exclude what happened in Middle East, I don't think why demand can have a more decline trend. Of course, now with all these developments, the visibility is more narrow, we have to admit that.

Stathis Kaparis, "Can you give us some color on scrap scarcity situation? Also energy input costs, how soon will you feel a potential energy cost inflation?"

It depends. For me, the question is the duration of this disruption in the Middle East, how long this will last.

If it lasts for a long period of time, yes, definitely we will have some disruptions and some pressure in energy. If the whole situation ceases earlier, then I believe that we will return to more normal levels in terms of energy costs.

About the scrap, I think that I have already answered. Strongly we expect from the European Union to take some measures to protect local industries.

If they want to have industries in Europe in the future, they have to do something about scrap. We believe that they will, and the only development, if they took some measures to prevent scrap from leaving Europe and going to Asia or to US, this will be a positive development.

Thomas Renouf, "Thank you for the detailed presentation. Do you see an improvement of scrap availability in Europe or it's still under pressure?"

Yes, I said that we see some stability in the last month of '25, and I said again that if Europe decide to take some measures, the environment would be more positive for us. "Should we expect an increase in capex if you are targeting new markets, those related to data centers infrastructure?"

For the time being, we have the free capacity, speaking for copper and data centers, we have the free capacity to cover any increase. Of course, it depends on the increase that we're going to see.

We see that data centers in US are moving a lot. We expect to see that trend coming into Europe eventually, and on that market, yes, we are ready to capitalize any improvement.

Now, if we decide to increase our capex in this area, it depends on the volumes that we will see in the future. Vassilis Roumantzis again, "How are sales doing in US after the tariffs?"

We cannot deny that we have a decline in sales to US, but it was something that it was expected after the imposition of tariffs. We still have customers in US.

We still sell in US with elevated profits and margins. We believe that the relations that we have with our customers there will give us the opportunity in the future again to increase our capacity.

As you see, we did not decline in terms of volume, we redirect our sales from US to other markets. Stathis Kaparis again, specifically for fourth quarter, "What is the largest impact on margins?

Is it energy, scrap input costs, or other cost inflation, or mix?" All of them.

Scrap, energy, inflation, everything went in a, let's say, negative direction in terms of profits. Even though energy costs from electricity and natural gas had a decline in '25 from the second semester onwards, again, on an average, prices were higher than '24.

Let me reiterate that this is not a game changer for us. We're not an energy-intensive industry.

Of course, it takes some profits from our profitability, the increase of energy costs. Again, I have to say that it creates an unfair advantage for companies that operates in regions with lower prices.

Again, in energy, we took some measures to mitigate the risk from the volatility of price. We have some hedging instruments in natural gas.

I can say that almost 40% of our contracts are hedged in natural gas, and for electricity, we are now into the PPAs markets. We have some solar and wind contracts in order to lower the average price from electricity and have some improvements in our costs from these actions.

It's flowing, but I see a lot of questions, I'll try not to lose. Stelios Morfiris, about capex, I think that we have already addressed this matter.

"Recently the group has been reported to be pursuing potential agreements in Ukraine. Could you tell us more about these plans?

Also, are you seeing increased demand coming from the defense sector? Finally, is the company experiencing any immediate impact from the new crisis in the Middle East?"

I will start from the Ukraine issue. To be honest, I don't know anything about potential agreements in Ukraine.

Forgive me, but I know nothing about it. Increased demand coming from defense sector?

Again, I will say that we already have some footprint in defense. It's not something significantly compared to other markets.

Of course, we have technology, we have the experience. Both metals can serve solutions in defense.

After the announcement for this big plan, we started to have more strong presence in some exhibitions, and we started to have a more intensive conversations with potential customers. Again, till now, we don't see something significant to happen in this sector.

We hear about announcements, but we don't see any significant movement. I will say again that we have the capacity to cover any increase in that market, and we have also the know-how.

Now, finally, is the company experiencing any immediate impact from new crisis in the Middle East? Immediate impact till now?

No, we don't have any immediate impact. We cannot do something different from every other industry that has interest in this area, but to closely monitoring all these developments there and see what we can do as an alternative in terms of possible increased in energy cost, or in disruptions in supply chain.

This is not the first time that we have come across such a challenging development. We faced similar issues when we stopped purchases from Russia, and we managed to navigate successfully.

Our size as a buyer is a source of leverage, and we already explore alternatives for our supply chain. I would say again that it is all on the duration of this tension.

I think that I'm not missing any other question. I don't know, Dimitris, if you...

Dimitris Theodorakatos

Nope. I think the latest one was of Stelios Morfiris.

Angelos Giazitzoglou

Okay. Thank you all for joining and thank you also for your questions.

Bye-bye.

Dimitris Theodorakatos

Bye-bye.