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Q2 FY2026 · Earnings Call TranscriptNovember 14, 2025

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, good morning, and welcome to the GMR Airports Limited, formerly known as GMR Airports Infrastructure Limited conference call, to discuss the Q2 FY 2026 results. As a reminder, all participant lines will be in the listen-only mode.

There will be an opportunity for you to ask questions after the presentation concludes. Should you need assistance during the conference call, please signal an operator by pressing star, then zero on your touchtone phone.

Please note that this conference is being recorded. We have with us today Mr.

Saurabh Chawla, Executive Director, Finance and Strategy. Before we begin, I would like to state that some of the statements made in today's discussion may be forward-looking in nature, and may involve risks and uncertainties.

Also, recording or transcribing of this call without prior permission of the management is strictly prohibited. I now hand the conference over to Mr.

Saurabh Chawla for the opening remarks. Thank you, and over to you, sir.

Saurabh Chawla

Thank you, and good morning, everyone. I welcome our shareholders, analysts, and other stakeholders to our Quarter 2 Fiscal 26 earnings call.

The fundamentals of air travel remain strong and intact. India continues to rise as a global aviation powerhouse, now the world's fifth largest aviation market.

The Mumbai-Delhi corridor ranked seventh amongst the top 10 busiest routes globally in 2024, and international carriers are doubling down on India's potential. Emirates, Etihad, Malaysian Airlines all report robust demand for premium travel to and from India.

IndiGo's expansion into long-haul and business class segments further signals confidence in sustained growth. Outbound tourism is booming.

Between January and May 2025, Indians traveling to Japan surged 40% year on year. Australia also welcomed 10% more visitors from India for the year ended May 2025, making India fifth largest inbound tourism market for Australia.

Direct flights have been introduced from Hyderabad to Australia, cutting travel time significantly, and the momentum is only building. As per a report released by Research and Markets, India's outbound tourism market is forecasted to grow at CAGR of 12.3% from 2025 until 2033.

Starting October 26, IndiGo will launch daily flights to London and introduce business class on key regional routes. Their recent order of 30 additional Airbus 350s, doubling their wide-body fleet, underscores the long-term optimism in Indian aviation.

I do acknowledge the geopolitical and operational challenges that have shaped the first half of Fiscal 26 for us. From regional tensions to isolated incidents, these disruptions have tested the resilience of travel ecosystem.

Yet what we have witnessed is not demand slowdown, but a temporary pause. As we enter Quarter 3, historically the strongest quarter for travel and tourism, we remain confident in the sector's trajectory.

The data speaks for itself. Demand is not just returning, it is evolving, expanding, and elevating.

On that note, let me now delve into our Q2 performance. Momentum in total income continued, with Q2 at INR 37.5 billion, up 45% year on year, driven by revised tariffs at Delhi Airport, which has been effective from mid-April, takeover of Delhi duty-free and cargo businesses by GMR Airports, and sustained growth at Hyderabad Airport, translating to EBITDA growth of 59% year on year to INR 15.3 billion.

EBITDA margin for the quarter improved to 53% in Q2, despite a forex loss hit, which is a notional loss of about 0.6 billion in Q2, as EUR/INR rate reached 104 in September from 100 in June, which led to the non-cash mark-to-market impact on our P&L statement. As I've been highlighting, this is a notional loss, as the FCCB strike rate price is INR 43.50, and no holder will ask for redemption given the instrument is deep into money given the current stock price.

Hence, logically, it should be treated as equity and not debt. Due to the accounting standards, we still recognize it as debt in our books.

It may also be noted that once these FCCBs convert into equity, all these provisions will be written back as one-time profits. This aspect must be taken into account for financial performance.

GMR Airports reported a profit from continuing operations for the quarter of 351 million rupees versus a loss of 4.3 billion rupees in Quarter 2. For the forex hit, GMR Airports would have reported a PAT which would have been higher.

Consolidated net debt, excluding the FCCBs of 26.3 billion rupees, which are deep into money, stood at INR 341 billion, increasing by INR 13 billion versus Quarter 1 Fiscal 26. GMR Airports had raised INR 59 billion in the form of non-convertible bonds, and used the proceeds to repay existing debt of INR 50 billion along with a redemption premium of INR 8.5 billion.

GAL also raised INR 3 billion in working capital loans for the purpose of duty-free operations that it started operating in the quarter. Net debt at Bhogapuram increased by INR 3.1 billion, while at Delhi Airport reduced by INR 2.8 billion.

On the operational front, traffic at GMR Airports operated airports fell 3.5% year on year in Quarter 2, reaching 27.8 million passengers, and this excludes Cebu. This was due to temporary disruptions in flight operations caused by changed airspace conditions amid geopolitical events and runway 10/28 upgradation at Delhi Airport.

Now that the runway is fully operational, our upgraded Terminal 2 at Delhi has resumed also full operations just in time for the seasonally strong quarter as well as the resumption of many routes for the winter schedule, we should see a pick-up in traffic moving ahead. Total income at Delhi Airport rose 34% to 18.5 billion rupees.

While growth in non-aero and CPD income was healthy, the primary driver of sharp increase in total income was the aero revenues, which rose 166% year on year driven by the implementation of revised tariffs. As a result, quarterly EBITDA reported was the highest in 4 years, increasing 69% year on year to 6.7 billion rupees.

With this, the airport has reported profit of INR 736 million for Quarter 2. Even excluding exceptional gains, the PAT for the quarter remains positive.

At Hyderabad, total income was INR 6.7 billion, up 17% year on year. Non-aero revenues was particularly strong, up 38% year on year.

EBITDA was up 17% year on year to INR 4.3 billion. This was the highest quarterly EBITDA on record for the airport, and the airport has continued to be PAT positive.

Mopa or Goa Airport reported a total income of 836 million, down 15% year on year, as aero revenues declined 27%, impacted by introduction of specific incentive programs to attract airlines to Goa. However, the non-aero revenue saw a 22% year-on-year growth.

The airport continues to report positive EBITDA with Quarter 2 Fiscal 26 at 121 million despite the impact of revenue share. The notable achievements during the quarter are: Non-aero revenue at all our airports was strong in the quarter.

Combined with non-aero revenues at Delhi, Hyderabad, and Goa airports rose 13% year on year in Quarter 2. Duty-free SPP at Delhi increased to INR 1,046 in first half of Fiscal 26 from INR 1,005 in first half of Fiscal 25, while at Hyderabad, SPP was 777 rupees in first half of Fiscal 26, up 733 in first half of Fiscal 25.

In September, the TDSAT, or Telecom Disputes Settlement and Appellate Tribunal, adjudicated in favor of Mopa Airport by quashing and setting aside various appealed matters from the Control Period 1 tariff order issued by AERA. TDSAT has given requisite directions to AERA for different issues as stated in the judgment.

Coming to the refinancing activities during the quarter, as stated earlier, GMR Airports raised INR 59 billion in the form of non-convertible bonds and used the proceeds to refinance the existing debt. The non-convertible bonds were raised in two tranches of 18 months and 36 months maturity at an effective cost of 10.225% to 10.425%.

This resulted in a saving of 300 basis points. At Delhi, INR 10 billion was raised in the form of 15-year non-convertible debentures at a coupon rate of 8.75% and used the proceeds to refinance debt bearing 9.98% coupon rate, a saving of 125 basis points.

The next refinancing we are looking at is for Hyderabad Airport 2026 foreign currency bonds, where the board has given approval for issuing INR-denominated NCDs aggregating up to INR 21.5 billion. Progress on developing the airport adjacency businesses is gathering pace.

We are steadfast in our long-term strategy of converting GMR Airports into a consumer business with the underpinnings of a utility company. After taking over Delhi duty-free concessions on 28th July, GMR Airports also took over the operations of duty-free at Hyderabad Airport and started operations from 10th September.

GMR Airports financials have already started reflecting the upsides from the above transactions, and the full-quarter impact will be seen in Quarter 3. GMR Airports also received a Letter of Intent to Award from Delhi Airport to finance, design, develop, construct, operate, manage, and maintain the Cargo City at Delhi Airport.

The initial concession period is up to 2036 and extendable by another 30 years parallel to the airport concession. The concession is based on revenue share to airport and the minimum guarantee totaling up to 2036 is INR 4.2 billion.

The Cargo City would be spread across 50.5 acres of land, which is not part of the commercial land of 232 acres. I want to just distinguish the land parcel aspect of it.

Construction on multiple airport land development projects is underway at all airports, details of which are available in the results presentation. At Hyderabad, the built-to-suit MRO facility for Safran has achieved physical completion and is expected to be handed over shortly.

Total built-up area of this facility is about half a million square feet. Work on new airport construction is steadily progressing.

At Bhogapuram, 87.5% of physical progress has been achieved as of September '25, while at Crete, 60% progress has been achieved. GMR-operated airports continue to set new benchmarks globally, earning prestigious accolades that reflect our relentless pursuit of excellence and innovation.

These milestones underscore our commitment to deliver world-class infrastructure and enhance long-term shareholder value. As a responsible airport operator, GMR Airports is deeply committed to environmental, social, and governance principles.

From pioneering sustainable infrastructure and reducing carbon emissions to fostering inclusive growth and upholding the highest standards of governance, ESG is embedded in our strategy and operations. We believe this commitment not only drives long-term value creation, but also aligns us with the expectations of global stakeholders and future-ready aviation.

We invite you to explore our detailed ESG progress and initiatives outlined in the investor presentation. The presentation with all financial numbers is already available with you.

If not, you can download it from our IR section of our website. We are available to respond to your questions on this call and offline after the call.

Now I would like to open the forum for queries that will be addressed by my colleagues from the corporate and the business teams. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you very much. We will now begin the question-and-answer session.

Anyone who wishes to ask a question may press star and one on their touchtone telephone. If you wish to remove yourself from the question queue, you may press star and two.

Participants are requested to use handsets while asking a question. Ladies and gentlemen, we will wait for a moment while the question queue assembles.

The first question is from the line of Mohit Kumar from ICICI Securities. Please go ahead.

Mohit Kumar

Good morning, and congratulations on a very good quarter. My first question is on the GMR Airport standalone business revenues, yeah.

There is a sharp increase in the standalone revenues. Are some of the non-aero businesses being carried out by GAL standalone directly?

Can you please help with the details?

Saurabh Chawla

Yes, Mohit. You would have been following our last quarterly calls.

We have always advised that GMR Airports will get into non-aero business. Recently, it started operations on Delhi duty-free, cargo.

Hyderabad duty-free has moved to GMR. On specific, I'll ask Rajesh to give you a full insight into it, to explain how these transitions have from the airport assets to GMR Airport level.

Rajesh?

Rajesh Arora

Thanks, Saurabh. Mohit, I think as you would have noticed in the last two and a half, three years, we have been in the process of sourcing non-aero businesses to be done as part of GMR Airports.

The result of that is now started reflecting in our financials as we have started operating these businesses, as Saurabh just mentioned. Delhi duty-free from 27th of July midnight, Hyderabad duty-free in September 2025, cargo we took over in May, and likewise car park, F&B, retail, part of retail business.

These are the businesses as independent business platforms which we are now carrying out as part of GMR Airports. That's what is also reflecting in our revenues.

Mohit Kumar

Sir, one more clarification. You said Delhi duty-free, cargo, these are being carried out directly by GMR Airports standalone business, is that right?

Are there anything else which are being carried out by GMR standalone? Hyderabad duty-free, right?

Rajesh Arora

Yeah. Hyderabad duty-free I mentioned.

We are also doing the car park business in Goa. We are also doing duty-free business in Goa.

Currently, there are five non-aero business platforms which are part of GMR Airports. The main ones are Delhi duty-free in terms of the quantum of revenues, Hyderabad duty-free, Delhi cargo, and some of the other businesses at Goa.

Mohit Kumar

Understood. Sir, my second question is, can you please explain on the slide number 10, where you're talking about the real estate?

Especially, I'm talking about Delhi Airport. Slide says the self-development project of 1 million square feet built-up area, then there is a built-to-suit luxury hotel with 0.6 million square feet.

The third one, which said other third-party projects with 12 million square feet. What does this mean, sir?

12 million square feet looks to be a very high number. Just trying to figure out what is the basis of this number.

Saurabh Chawla

GRK garu, you want to take this?

Rajesh Arora

Hello.

Saurabh Chawla

Yeah. Amit, you are there?

Mohit Kumar

Hello.

Saurabh Chawla

Hello.

Operator

Yes, sir, Amit sir is connected.

Saurabh Chawla

Amit, are you answering it or... No, GRK garu, go ahead.

GRK Babu

Sir, it is basically the other third-party projects with 12 million square foot built-up area is basically I think we are referring to the Bharti transaction as well as the other transactions which are happening.

Mohit Kumar

Oh, this is already monetized, right? Am I right?

GRK Babu

They are all monetized. One, the second tranche of the Bharti is yet to be monetized.

Mohit Kumar

Okay.

GRK Babu

First tranche is already monetized.

Mohit Kumar

This refers to the second tranche, am I right?

Rajesh Arora

Yeah. Yes.

Yeah.

Saurabh Chawla

Mohit, just to distinguish what is highlighted under DIAL on this page, the first two bullets are our strategy to now get into self-development. The third bullet is the legacy one where the monetization of the land had happened a few years back and they are building out various commercial office and retail projects at Delhi Airport.

Just to distinguish between the three bullets. Sir, the only clarification I'm looking at, I think if I understand correctly, the first point of the self-development, you are still looking to monetize.

You will develop and lease out, right? Second one, I think, still the revenues will come to the GAL whenever this luxury hotel starts operating.

The third one, I'm just trying to figure out whether there is any revenue potential which is still to accrue to the GMR Airports, yeah.

GRK Babu

No, that will be The third one is Sorry. Go ahead, Saurabh.

Saurabh Chawla

Sorry, go ahead, GRK garu.

GRK Babu

Sir, this is basically the 12 million, what is the leasing out by the DIAL only. It will not accrue to GMR Airports Limited.

It is only to the DIAL. The self-development is also done by the DIAL, and built-to-suit luxury hotel is also done by the DIAL.

The third one is given to the other 12 million square foot is given to the third parties who will develop themselves.

Mohit Kumar

Sure, sir. I'll take it offline, sir.

I'll speak to Amit maybe post the call. My third question is, can you just talk about the Hyderabad next phase of expansion?

If I'm not wrong, I think there is a proposal to spend around 14,000 crores. Can you just talk about the size and the quantum and the timelines?

GRK Babu

Saurabh, shall I take up?

Saurabh Chawla

GRK garu, please take it.

GRK Babu

Yes. The Hyderabad Airport has already touched last year 29 million.

This year we are expecting to touch about 33 million, full capacity. We are proposing for an expansion with a 14,000 crore rupees, there is a proposal, which basically consisting of going for a new terminal on the northern side along with the runway and cross-taxiways, and also other infrastructure facilities.

The proposal is now there, and we have also included in our tariff determination process. In all probability, we are expecting the master planning is going on.

We are expecting that it would kick on in calendar year '27.

Mohit Kumar

Understood, sir. Thank you, and best of luck, sir.

Thank you. Yeah.

Saurabh Chawla

Mohit, when GRK garu said 'kick on', it's basically the approval process is in the place. The development process will begin subsequently.

Just to highlight that aspect. Hyderabad Airport is already now peaking, the existing capacities will get fully exploited by the current which is there.

Just to qualify that statement.

Mohit Kumar

Thank you, sir. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. The next question is from the line of Prateek Kumar from Jefferies.

Please go ahead.

Prateek Kumar

Good morning, everyone. Congrats for great results.

Have a few questions. Firstly, can we discuss the master plan you talked about for Delhi Airport?

It was covered in media I think a couple of days back. What kind of capex are we looking for those projects?

Saurabh Chawla

I think the master planning we have been talking about is Hyderabad Airport. Delhi master plan is already completed 2016.

Again 2026, for the 2026, the preparations are getting now done. Otherwise, there is as on today, the master plan just exercise is getting started.

It will take about 1, 1 and 1/2 year. As that we prepare the master plan for the Delhi once in 10 years.

We started in 2006, then 2016, and now 2026. It will come out very clearly whether since we have already touched 100 million, what is the additional requirement will come up only in the master planning.

As of today, we can't say anything on that. Only the exercise is just kicking off, that's all.

GRK Babu

Prateek, just to add to what GRK garu is that it is more from a design and efficiency perspective. We are today at about 100, 105 million.

What additional that needs to be, purely from the terminal development side. As you're fully aware, the airside, all the capex has been completed for the full tenure of this concession.

Hence, we can't expand any more runways or cross-taxiways that had been already undertaken in the previous expansion. It is only the efficiency aspect of the terminals of what can we do on capturing the high-yielding international traffic.

That is where the focus is from a design and understanding perspective. Just want to highlight over here that, for example, in Terminal 3, we are converting one pier from domestic to international as goes more robustly.

Those aspects are something which is an ongoing process of evaluation of the master plan. There is significant capex or specific capex that is planned at Delhi Airport at least in the foreseeable future.

Just want to highlight that.

Prateek Kumar

Sure. Can we discuss overall capex of the company?

In first half, you have done 1,800 crore capex at the overall consol level. What kind of capex we should pencil for FY '26 and FY '27?

GRK Babu

Honestly, we don't give any capex outlook. All I can tell you is that there is no major capex happening in the whole group other than the two projects which are live, one is Bhogapuram, where we continue to draw down debt to complete the Bhogapuram airport.

As you would have seen in the presentation, more than 80% of the physical infrastructure at Bhogapuram is already complete, and it should go live over the next 8 to 12 months. Other than that big capex, the other capex which is happening is Crete.

We have a minority share and there is no further contribution of our investment into Crete. That will get completed over the next 2 years.

Other than these two, there is nothing which is currently envisaged in our capex vlog program for the whole group.

Prateek Kumar

Okay. Among other questions, is there an update on HRAB, which AERA was supposed to revert by September end and end to November now?

Saurabh Chawla

AERA has appealed to the Supreme Court on this matter. Supreme Court has admitted the case, and we have also confirmed to the Supreme Court that we will not press for the immediate implementation within 1 month and we wanted the Supreme Court to clear the case as early as possible.

The case is now posted I think in December for hearing.

Prateek Kumar

Lastly, two bookkeeping questions. We have seen reduced depreciation and there was some impact of interest because of early refinance.

What is the new run rate for interest and depreciation we should expect from third quarter?

Saurabh Chawla

The depreciation has come down mainly because of the accounting treatment only. We have gone by the accounting standards.

On an average, the depreciation will come down on the existing assets about 150 crores. That means every quarter maybe around 35 to 38 crore rupees.

As far as interest is concerned, now the current interest whatever we have shown in this quarter will slightly go down further because the full impact of the reduced interest rates will come into the next quarter onwards. The interest amount should come down some amount from the next quarter onwards.

GRK Babu

Just to, Prateek, also highlight here on depreciation that we have aligned our depreciation policy with other airport majors. Previously, it was for a limited period, and now it is for the full concession period as such, and hence, in that alignment, this change has happened.

This has, of course, given some benefit, but it is now in full alignment with other airport majors as to how they depreciate their assets for the full concession.

Prateek Kumar

Sure. Thank you.

I'll get back to queue.

GRK Babu

Sure.

Operator

Thank you. A reminder to all the participants, you may press star and one to ask a question.

The next question is from the line of Aditya Mongia from Kotak Securities. Please go ahead.

Aditya Mongia

Thank you for the opportunity, and congratulations on a very strong set of results. Just wanted to understand, to start things off, the non-aero business better.

It seems Delhi and Hyderabad have seen meaningful improvements on a y-o-y basis on a per-pax non-aero spending basis. I think Delhi is up high teens, and Hyderabad is up 25-ish percent or so.

Could you give us a sense whether these are kind of sustainable absolute per-pax numbers, or are they being impacted by mix changes wherein curtailment of capacity and higher international mix are having an impact? Just trying to kind of see whether these are sustainable numbers, because these look fairly high for the second quarter.

Saurabh Chawla

I'll leave that question to be answered by Rajesh. Rajesh?

Rajesh Arora

Sure, Saurabh. Aditya, when we talk about non-aero revenue growth, I think for us the target we generally take is about in the range of 14% to 15% kind of growth, which is combination of spend growth as well as traffic growth.

That's the threshold generally we take, depending upon how the traffic will hold. The numbers what you are seeing, yes, in this quarter, the growth is significantly higher than these defined benchmarks.

It's a combination of what has happened, as you would have seen, T1 became fully operational in this quarter with all the outlets opening up there. Similarly Hyderabad, there some of the outlets and stores was under final opening, those got opened.

It's a combination of the full impact of all the non-aeronautical areas which we have developed in the last couple of years. Plus, in terms of spend per pax, yes, we have also seen good growth in the both Delhi and Hyderabad in duty-free, which is about 7% to 8% spend growth in Delhi and about 11% upward growth in Hyderabad duty-free.

For us, 15% growth year on year in the non-aero revenue is something which we will always keep as a minimum target for us to grow. Anything over and above that could be a combination of additional stores, additional improvement in some margins and all that.

Aditya Mongia

Got that. The current level is sustainable and 14%, 15% growth can then be sustained on the current levels is what you think.

There's no one-off mixing impact inside numbers. I would want to believe.

Yeah. That clarifies.

The second thing is that while it may be a little bit premature to discuss, but this 50-odd acres of Cargo City land, what all usage can it be exposed to in Delhi? Can this be a material value-creative exercise for the company, and over what period of time does it happen?

Side question, should we even be thinking of this given that Celebi is trying to get back?

Rajesh Arora

Aditya,

Saurabh Chawla

before Rajesh answers this, just to again re-clarify that this Cargo City land is not to be confused by the commercial land development that is happening. Those are two very different parcels.

One is an aero, and the other one is the ALD land. Rajesh, please, you can give a more insights into this aspect.

Rajesh Arora

Sure. Aditya, this Cargo City development is primarily towards Tier 2 and Tier 3 of the cargo infrastructure.

There will be also a Tier 1, a part of that will be there. We have a very robust cargo infrastructure for Tier 1 in the form of two cargo terminal operators.

Cargo City is going to be in addition to these two terminals, and basically to cater to the requirement of Tier 1 of the both the operators. In terms of uses, it will be warehousing.

It will also be a processing zone. We have also applied for SEZ, certain specified area as an SEZ within our overall airport land.

It's going to be a combination of that. 50.5 acres what we have got the rights to develop, the first phase is about 30.5 acres which we are developing.

The timelines as per concession is about 24 to 30 months. We are looking at completing it much ahead of that.

Saurabh Chawla

Rajesh, please also highlight the value-additive aspect of this strategy as to how from a non-processing to a processing area in cargo, how it takes the rentals up so that everybody has a better understanding as to what is the quality of revenues and margins you get on this particular development, just an indicative one.

Rajesh Arora

Yeah. Just before that, Aditya, this Cargo City has got nothing to do with this Celebi's cargo terminal operations.

That will continue to be done. We took over that terminal on an interim basis, and currently Delhi Airport is in the process of running the process.

This will be in addition to the Celebi's cargo terminal operation. The Cargo City will be both development and then leasing out these spaces to people who are the freight forwarders, people who would want to come and set up their processing zone over here, again which will be an impetus for growth for cargo, the Tier 1 cargo.

In terms of revenue, I think we are expecting good, healthy EBITDA margin on these development and the lease rentals. It could be in excess of about 70% or so.

Aditya Mongia

As in let's say from an NPV perspective, could you give me some sense obviously the Aerocity land is worth let's say whatever, 200 crores or so per acre, what could be the equivalent number over here as you think through? These are obviously different uses, I'm not trying to compare commercial versus industrials, but still some sense would be useful for us to gauge how much value can be created from here.

Rajesh Arora

These are more, I would say, on the lease model, Aditya. The rentals depending upon the location of the infrastructure could be anything between 150 to 250-odd rupees per square feet.

These are purely going to be on the lease model.

Aditya Mongia

Are these part, just the final part on this question, are these kind of subject to the same revenue share sharing with the government? Is this, I'm assuming this is part of the Delhi Airport concession, right, or is it how is it structured?

Rajesh Arora

Yeah. Just 1 second, GRK garu.

It's a concession given by Delhi Airport and GMR Airports have got it. Yes, it will be subject to the same revenue share to be shared with government only the revenues which Delhi Airport will get as a concession fee from the concessionaire which is GMR Airports here.

Sorry, GRK garu.

Saurabh Chawla

Aditya, basically, DIAL wanted to develop the Cargo City, which is a transfer land. You cannot compare with the commercial property land that is available for commercial development.

This is exclusively for only transfer property, which goes to the Airport Authority of India at the end of the concession period. These 50 acres of development which they wanted to do to have the full-fledged facility of warehousing, express cargo, office complexes within that land, basing on that, they've gone for a tender, GAL has got it.

This is basically we built and we give it on lease and we get the lease rentals, and we will also pay a revenue share to DIAL on the lease rentals, which is as per the concession agreement. Then DIAL will share the revenue share basing on the amount which they get on that day, they pay 46% to Airport Authority of India.

It is a two stage down.

Aditya Mongia

How much do you give to DIAL, sir, as a revenue share?

Saurabh Chawla

There are two cities we are developing, Cargo City 1 and Cargo City 2. Cargo City 1 is a new development far away, that is only 12% is the revenue share.

Cargo City 2 is just opposite to Celebi and DCSC, there we pay about 27% revenue share.

Aditya Mongia

Understood, sir. I'll move on to the remaining questions.

There are two of those. Any sense on why Hyderabad traffic on the domestic side is kind of flattening out y-o-y?

How do you think, because this is a very fast-growing airport in the past, just trying to get a better sense of what's changing over there.

Saurabh Chawla

Sir, if you look at it, the traffic at Hyderabad year on year there is a domestic growth. For half year, 11.29% there is a growth.

It is only quarter, naturally second quarter is a little lower compared to the first quarter, and third quarter again there is a good growth is already happening in case of Hyderabad. We are expecting overall, compared to last year, this year there will be a growth around 10% to 12%.

GRK Babu

Aditya, the macro side of Indian aviation did get impacted with the geopolitical issues and also the unfortunate Air India mishap. That was the softness in Quarter 2, more impacted to Delhi, but also there has been some impact also in other airports including Hyderabad.

You need to take that into cognizance.

Aditya Mongia

Okay. The final two questions from my side.

One thing is, a lot of questions come to us on the renewal aspect of Delhi Airport, 30 plus 30. What are the conditions precedent?

Is it going to be a smooth affair, or will there be changes to revenue share, on, forth? Would be good to get your views so that we can communicate accordingly to investors as well.

Is it going to be a fairly stable affair wherein you have the ASQ scores and you get the renewal, or is there more to that post

Saurabh Chawla

30 years? This is a simple process.

GRK Babu

Just to highlight over here, the precedence is already there in Hyderabad Airport for everybody to see. Okay?

It's a very smooth affair. There's a contract in place, and as long as we are maintaining our ASQ scores, the renewal is pretty much given.

There are no specific renegotiations that can be opened as per the concession agreement as per OMDA. I think you need to allay these concerns in the minds of the investors that there'll be fresh set of negotiations that will happen upon or just prior to the expiry of the first 30 years.

I think that's the moot point over here I want to highlight. Go ahead, GRK garu, please.

Saurabh Chawla

You are absolute right, sir. There is no strings are attached.

It is the automatic extension by 30 years. We have to make an application at the end of 25th year that our intention to have the next 30 years.

That we will do it only 2031 post May. Before that, then there are no conditions attached.

The only thing is that there should not be any event of default, and we never had event of default, and we will never have also. Except that, there is no requirement.

We have to make an application in 2025th year. That will happen in 2031.

Aditya Mongia

Sir, could you give us a little bit more sense on this 1,800 crore capex number and let's say what it could be for next year in the absence of any incremental capex? This appears to be a little bit high for us to gauge.

Maybe if you can give a sense of how much is maintenance and just trying to get a steady-state number assuming that Delhi and Hyderabad and Bhogapuram are all done. Is it already a big part?

Just trying to get a better sense of what is exactly the spending going to be next year.

Saurabh Chawla

This 1,800 crore rupees what you are referring consisting of three components. Basically, the self-development capex is also involved, plus maintenance capex, plus Bhogapuram.

All are involved in that overall. Going forward, Bhogapuram still we have to spend about 1,000 crore rupees, 1,000, 1,500, 2,000 crore rupees we have to spend from today onwards.

That will be effecting some amount this next two quarters and balance will be in the next financial year. As far as the self-development is concerned in case of the DIAL, we have almost done the work and there will be a small amount we may have to spend.

Operational capex is always incurred by DIAL and HIAL, which could be in the range of 500 to 700 crores both airports together. That clarifies.

Aditya Mongia

Thank you so much. I'll get back.

Saurabh Chawla

Yeah. On a sustainable basis between the two airports, which are the large airports, anything between 600 to 700, as GRK garu has highlighted, would be the maintenance capex will continue, right?

What we will of course do going forward as those self-development projects increase in magnitude, we will also give that break-up whilst the capex on Bhogapuram will start to come off as the project gets completed. I think that's the broad guidance we'd like to give.

Aditya Mongia

Understood. Thank you so much for entertaining all my questions.

Operator

Thank you. The next question is from the line of Prateek Kumar from Jefferies.

Please go ahead.

Prateek Kumar

Thanks for the opportunity again. A couple of clarifications.

At Delhi Airport, we're seeing arithmetically some lower revenue share at around 43%, 44% versus generally it should be 46%. Any clarification there?

Saurabh Chawla

Basically, the revenue share, you cannot simply compare 46% of the top line. There are certain exemptions, certain exclusions which are provided in the basically definition of the gross revenue.

The payments made to relevant authorities, we have to exclude from the gross revenue for the purpose of payment of revenue share. For example, the power bills or the municipal taxes, all those things have to be excluded.

We have done those exclusions and the balance revenue is only subject to revenue share.

Prateek Kumar

That should be a stable number going forward also, we should take this 43%, 44% as a revenue share for future projections? Is that right?

No,

Saurabh Chawla

we cannot take the exactly 44%, because for example, last year we have paid more than 60 crore rupees as the municipal taxes pertaining to earlier year also. Going forward, not with that much, but there will be some reduction.

It will not be 46%, but it will be a lower net.

Prateek Kumar

Okay. Another question on Goa's incentive program to attract airlines.

Clearly, this has impacted margins for the airport maybe for near-term reasons. How far is this program expected to continue and some outlook there?

GRK Babu

At

Saurabh Chawla

this stage, it is only an incentive plan for this current year. Because of geopolitical issues in Europe, there has been some decline in interest in Goa, and in order to attract all those people back to our airport, that's a plan that was undertaken for this current fiscal year.

I don't think you should impute it going forward. That's all I would like to say.

Prateek Kumar

Last question on real estate development capex. Can you quantify an annualized expected capex?

Is it 500 crore, 1,000 crore, or maybe much more for modeling purpose?

Saurabh Chawla

Which airport you're talking, Delhi or

Rajesh Arora

Total company at consolidated level. Total real estate development

Saurabh Chawla

Aditya, if I put in 500 crores as capex for real estate, we'll be talking huge numbers on the commercial real estate development, correct? Very early in this stage to give you a guidance on that.

It's a business which is just starting on the self-development side. Allow us another few quarters to come back on a sustainable basis what should be the run rate of construction capex on the commercial real estate at both the airports, probably even Goa, because Goa also has a significant amount of Aerocity hotels to be developed over there.

I can't give you a full guidance on a number, but it's early stages on the self-development program for us at this particular point of time.

Prateek Kumar

Can you give a number for FY '26 we should be knowing that?

Saurabh Chawla

We don't give guidance. That, Aditya.

Prateek Kumar

Sir, this is Prateek. Sure.

Thanks. These were my questions.

Saurabh Chawla

Sorry, Prateek. We have only two two projects, self-development projects, which are currently live, it's not a big number, a small number.

Operator

Mr. Prateek?

Prateek Kumar

Thank you. That was my question.

Operator

Thank you. The next follow-up question is from the line of Aditya Mongia from Kotak Securities.

Please go ahead. Hey,

Aditya Mongia

thanks. I think there are a couple of questions remaining from my side.

Firstly, the aero yield or aero revenues per pax in Delhi appears to be on the higher side, much different from the 350-rupee number, which is the average that one has to be thinking through. Could you give us a sense of whether there are some one-offs inside or is it purely to do with the international mix kind of going up?

GRK Babu

Basically, as you know that DIAL new tariffs have been implemented from 15th April 2025. This time what we did, and regulator has also accepted, in case of parking charges, which used to be flat after 2 and 1/2 years 2 and 1/2 hours, we have now made it a multiplier.

For 2 hours and beyond up to 4 hours a particular rate, and 4 hours beyond 4 hours is double the first stage, and beyond 8 hours it is 4 times. That we wanted to dissuade the airlines not to park the aircrafts because it will be creating a congestion.

As a result of that, the parking charges substantially gone up, and revenues because of so many aircrafts which have been parked now they are slowly, slowly taking out and they are doing much more faster turn around they are doing it. In the initial 2, 3 months, 6 months, they have now learned it.

Going forward, that additional revenue we may not generate. Because of the parking charges, her additional revenue has come, the yield per pax has gone up.

However, as per the tariff determination, it is 360 rupees yield per pax that will continue to be there. During the next quarter also, we may have a little more because of parking.

Maybe by next quarter, there is a fourth quarter onwards, we may come back to 360 or 365. This is basically because of the parking charges, which airlines are now understanding, they are now doing much faster turnaround of the aircrafts.

Aditya Mongia

Understood. So 350 rupees comes back again versus whatever numbers were there for this quarter.

That is fine.

Saurabh Chawla

From your modeling perspective, please maintain the same thing. These are little gyrations like GRK garu has highlighted, not sustainable on a long-term basis.

Aditya Mongia

Understood. Shall I assume that the entire investment property amount that is coming in the first half, about 500 crores, is the Delhi real estate capex that you're classifying over there in the balance sheet?

GRK Babu

Which one? Sorry?

Aditya Mongia

There is this investment properties line item in the balance sheet saying 550 crores for the first half at the end of the first half. Is that linked to the real estate capex that you're doing in Delhi on the self-development properties?

GRK Babu

There is some amount of the self-development money is being involved in case of DIAL. There are two projects, as Saurabh has explained.

We have spent about around 250 to 300 crore rupees. As he rightly pointed out, it will not be that much amount going forward because there are only two projects are happening now.

Aditya Mongia

Sure. Those were my questions.

Thank you so much for your responses.

Operator

Thank you. A reminder to all the participants, you may press star and one to ask a question.

Ladies and gentlemen, as there are no further questions, I would now like to hand the conference over to Mr. Saurabh Chawla for closing comments.

Thank you, and over to you, sir.

Saurabh Chawla

Thank you, and thank you, everybody, to join this call for our Quarter 2 results. We are available offline to answer any further questions that you may have or clarification that you may seek, and hope to see you soon.

Thank you so much.

Operator

Thank you very much, sir. On behalf of GMR Airports Limited, that concludes this conference.

Thank you for joining us today, and you may now disconnect your lines.