ICICI Prudential Asset Management Company Ltd.

ICICI Prudential Asset Management Company Ltd.

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Q3 FY2026 · Earnings Call TranscriptJanuary 14, 2026

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, good day, and welcome to the ICICI Prudential Asset Management Company Limited earnings conference call for the quarter ended December 31st, 2025. As a reminder, all participant lines will be in the listen-only mode, and there will be an opportunity for you to ask questions after the presentation concludes.

Should you need assistance during this conference, please signal an operator by pressing * then 0 on your touch-tone phone. I now hand the conference over to Mr.

Nimesh Shah, MD and CEO of ICICI Prudential AMC Limited. Thank you, and over to you, sir.

Nimesh Shah

Welcome everybody to our first earnings conference call as a listed entity. We have got with us my colleague Navin Agarwal, the CFO of the company; Amar Shah, the Chief Business Officer; Abhijit Shah, the Chief Marketing and Digital Officer; and Harshad Sanghvi, who looks after Investor Relations.

We'll be there to address all your queries subsequent to the opening pitch. If you talk about the industry, mutual fund industry, as all of has seen a robust trajectory of growth over the last five years, with the industry AUM growing threefold.

The industry's quarterly average asset under management grew by 18.1% year-on-year and 5% sequentially in Q3 FY '26, reaching 81 trillion rupees. Equity and equity-oriented quarterly average AUM, which commands the largest pie in the overall mutual fund industry, increased by 16.7% year-on-year and 5.3% quarter-on-quarter to rupees 44 trillion.

The industry witnessed net inflow of 1.8 trillion rupees during the quarter. The equity category continued to be at the forefront, attracting net inflows of 1.1 trillion rupees.

The SIP contribution for the month of December 20-- 2025 amounted to 31,002 crores as compared to 20-- 293 billion rupees and 264 billion rupees in the month of September and December '24, September '25 and December '24. In the debt segment, the quarterly average AUM grew by 21% year-on-year and 2.3% quarter-on-quarter to 13.4 trillion rupees.

Passive quarterly average AUM grew by 23% year-on-year and 9.5% sequentially to 13.5 trillion rupees. Industry saw an increase of unique customers reaching 59 million, which represents an increase of 12.1% year-on-year and 3.4% as compared to the previous quarter.

Now, I hand over the call to Harshad Sanghvi for covering the performance of our company.

Harshad Sanghvi

Thank you, Nimesh. Good evening, everyone.

For the quarter ended December 2025, our total mutual fund quarterly average AUM reached to 10.8 trillion rupees, which is up by 6.1% sequentially and 23.2% year-on-year, thereby maintaining our position as the second largest AMC with a market share of 13.3%. As of December 31st, 2025, we continue to have the largest market share of 13.5% in active schemes with a quarterly average AUM of 9.1 trillion rupees, reflecting an increase of 5.2% as compared to the previous quarter and 20.6% YoY.

As of December 31st, 2025, we continue to have the largest market share in equity and equity-oriented schemes of 13.8% with a quarterly average AUM of 6.1 trillion rupees, reflecting an increase of 7.3% quarter-on-quarter and 23.6% year-on-year. The quarterly average AUM of our equity-oriented hybrid schemes amounted to 2.1 trillion rupees with a market share of 26.3% as of December 31st, 2025.

This reflects an increase of 9% Q-on-Q and 26.8% year-on-year. These market positions serve as a testament to our ongoing commitment to achieving risk-adjusted returns for our customers.

In the debt segment, our quarterly average AUM stood at 2 trillion rupees, reflecting a growth of 18.9% year-on-year and 2.7% as compared to the previous quarter. Our passive quarterly average AUM reached 1.7 trillion rupees, representing a growth of 39.4% YoY and 10.8% sequentially.

For nine months ended December 2025, our margins on annualized basis stands at 67 basis points for equity, 32 basis points for debt, 12 basis points for liquid, 9 basis points for passive, and 30 basis points for arbitrage. We have a unique customer base of 16.2 million as of December 31st, 2025.

In December 2025, our systematic transactions, which includes SIP and systematic transfer plans, increased by 4.9% to 50.37 billion rupees, which was up from 48.03 billion rupees in September 2025. This also marks an 18.6% rise compared to 42.47 billion rupees in December 2024.

Notably, 95.7% of our total mutual fund purchase transactions were executed across digital platforms for nine months ended December 2025. Our distribution mix of equity schemes quarterly average AUM is as follows: with direct representing 28%, mutual fund distributors accounting for 37.3%, ICICI Bank contributing 8.1%, other banks' share at 11.1%, and national distributors accounting for 15.5%.

Our net flows market share in equity schemes exceeds our AUM market share. We have received approvals to launch specialized investment funds under the brand SIF, pursuant to which we are launching two SIFs.

Our long-term strategy for mutual fund is to: one, maintain focus on the investment performance with a risk-calibrated approach; two, we continue our focus on retail growth specifically through systematic transactions, expand our customer base through distinct initiatives, increasing penetration in existing and new markets, and strengthen relationships with our distributors; leverage our technology and scale digital capabilities to drive customer acquisition and enhance customer experience. Now, let's move to our alternates business, which comprise equity-focused PMS and alternative investment funds with strategies comprising private credit, long-only equities, offshore feeder, and real estate funds.

For the December quarter end, our alternates quarterly average AUM stood at 752.8 billion rupees. Within alternates, our PMS quarterly average AUM grew by 7.5% sequentially and 22.6% YoY to 272.81 billion rupees.

Our AIF quarterly average AUM of 159.09 billion rupees reflected a sequential growth of 8.6% and 40% year-on-year. For nine months ended December 2025, the gross yield on our alternates business was 1.99%, and the net yield, that is after reducing the fees and commission expenses attributable to the alternates business, was 97 basis points on an annualized basis.

We have established retail FME branch presence in GIFT City. This expansion will enable us to launch retail schemes and ETFs, alternative investment funds, PMS, and advisory services for clients within IFSC GIFT City.

We would also like to share an update on DIFC. We have received requisite approvals to commence the operations.

This will help us to effectively serve the investment needs of NRI and international investors across the Middle East. I now hand over the call to Navin for covering financial performance of the company.

Navin Agarwal

Thank you, Harshad. Good evening, everyone.

I'll cover the financial performance overview for the quarter ended December 2025. Our operating revenue stood at 15.15 billion rupees, representing a growth of 23.5% year-on-year and 6.7% sequentially.

Our other income for the quarter was recorded at 1.09 billion rupees. Operating expenses amounted to 4.05 billion rupees, which was an increase by 8.5% year-on-year and 0.6% quarter-on-quarter.

Our operating profit before tax, which indicates the core profitability of the business, stood at 11.10 billion rupees. This represents a 30% increase year-on-year and 9.1% rise on quarter-on-quarter.

Profit after tax stood at 9.17 billion rupees, which is up by 41-- 45.1% year-on-year and 9.8% quarter-on-quarter. Return on equity for nine months ended December 2025 is at 87.9% on an annualized basis.

Board of Directors, additionally, have approved an interim dividend of 14.85 rupees per share. For nine months ended December 2025, if you look at on an overall yield and net yield, on annualized basis, the overall yield was 52 basis points, and the net yield was 48 basis points, respectively.

Net yield is arrived at after reducing the fee and commission expenses on alternates, which is shown as an expense item in the P&L. For nine months ended December 2025, our operating margin stood at 37 basis points, as compared to 35 basis points for nine months ended December '24.

This is on an annualized basis. Our employee count as on December 31, 2025, was 3,522.

With this, we can move to the Q&A.

Operator

Thank you very much. We will now begin the question-and-answer session.

Anyone who wishes to ask a question may press * and 1 on their touch-tone telephone. If you wish to remove yourself from the question queue, you may press * and 2.

Participants are requested to please use handsets while asking a question. Ladies and gentlemen, we will now wait for a moment while the question queue assembles.

Our first question is from the line of Lalit Mohan Dave from Equirus Securities. Please go ahead.

Lalit Deo

Good evening, sir, and congratulations for a good set of numbers. Just two questions.

Firstly, is it--

Operator

Sorry to interrupt, sir, but you sound a little muffled. If you could please check the mode that you're using on your handset.

Lalit Deo

Is this better?

Operator

Yes, this is much better, sir. Please go ahead.

Lalit Deo

Yeah. Sir, I have two questions.

Firstly, on the revenue side, is it possible to break up the revenue in terms of mutual fund, alternate, and the advisory business? Just second was just a clarification.

In the presentation, it is mentioned that the systematic flows which we represent, so that includes SIP flows towards PMS business as well?

Nimesh Shah

Yeah. On your first question, of the total core revenue, 92% is coming from the mutual fund, 7% is coming from alternates, and 1% is coming from advisory.

On your second question on systematic transactions, there is a small number which is on account of PMS as well, but the systematic transactions does include that as well.

Lalit Deo

Sure. Sure, sir.

Thanks, I will join back in the queue. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, you may press * and 1 if you wish to ask questions.

Our next question is from the line of Sukrit D. Patil from Eyesight Fintrade Private Limited.

Please go ahead.

Sukrit D. Patil

Good evening to the team. I have two questions.

My first question is to Mr. Shah.

As India's asset management industry evolves with rising retail participation and digital distribution and regulatory changes, what are the structural shifts you feel shaping ICICI Prudential position over the next two to three years, especially how are you preparing to differentiate beyond scale, whether through product innovation, investor education, or any tech-led engagement, or anything which is on your mind? Just want to understand your views on this.

Thank you.

Nimesh Shah

I had said it at the time of IPO and I'm saying it now also, that this industry has been growing very well, and we plan to continue doing what we have been doing. There is nothing dramatically different that we plan to do.

It's a very simple business. I think the regulator has created a brilliant product.

The product is working in the interest of the customer. When the product is working in the interest of the customer, it has become a pull product.

When I started working in this industry, it was a push product. Today, thanks to the good product and the customer's good experience in this product, it has become a pull product.

Any company which works, manages scale well, and is able to manage money in a very responsible manner, keeps on getting money from the customer. You would have seen that is happening.

A lot of small AMCs also have been able to generate a huge amount of AUM because they gave a very good performance. I feel the way to track this industry is also how well are the funds doing for the final customer.

Native intelligence, forget artificial intelligence, is that anybody who makes money in your funds will further invest with you. We have got more than 1.6 crore customers.

A lot of them have made decent money if you look at our performance track record. I think we have been able to deliver a good risk-adjusted return.

With that and the positioning that we have with our brand in the country, I think if we don't do well, if we don't make big mistakes, there's a probability that we can do well. It's a very simple business.

There is no complicated jargon required. If you manage money carefully and you give a risk-adjusted good return to the customer, your AUM keeps growing.

I've been seeing it since last 10, 15 years that this is happening. As far as use of technology and tech is concerned, we are at the cutting edge.

You would have seen our apps. A lot of you would have been our customers also.

You would have seen our apps. You have seen the way we have transitioned from the traditional model to the new digital model, and Navin pointed out to the percentage of the transactions that are happening online.

That is a way of life. Today, I don't want to talk about technology separately because technology is way through which we operate.

It is not a basics. It is not a new strategy.

Always we have been on the cutting edge as far as technology is concerned. We benchmark ourselves against the best in the industry, and we have been doing that.

It's the same thing that we have done over the last 15 years that we want to continue doing: manage money well, and if you manage money well, our business keeps growing.

Operator

Thank you. My second question is to Mr.

Agarwal. On the profitability side, understand savings of the planning, given the pressure from competitive expense ratios and digital platforms, how are you balancing near-term margin protections with longer-term investments that could structurally expand the profits?

Are there any specific levers like operating efficiency, or product mix, or partnerships, or anything else that you see can help you grow the margins beyond FY '26? Thank you.

Navin Agarwal

Traditionally, we have always been investing in the business, and if you see over a period, given the increase in the overall AUM and the resultant increase in the revenue, there has been an operating leverage which has played out. We obviously keep looking at our expenses and optimize wherever possible.

Insofar as the approach is concerned, the approach which was to invest in business so that wherever we see opportunity, we are future-ready, that approach will continue in future as well. We do not see that changing at all.

Sukrit D. Patil

Thank you for the guidance, and I wish the entire team best of luck for next quarter.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question is from the line of Pratik Ghosh from Citi.

Please go ahead.

Dipanjan Ghosh

Good evening. This is Dipanjan here from Citi.

Just few questions from my side. Firstly, in terms of your SIP flows on the mutual fund side of the business, would it be possible to let's say give a breakup between let's say sectoral, SMID, and others, and how that would have changed, let's say, across years or months?

The second question is on this mutual fund circular which has come out and its potential impact. Now, what we understand from your peer is that maybe a portion of the hit or majority of the hit might be passed on to distributors.

Now, what I understand is you operate on a marginal pricing regime with the distributor payout side. On this backdrop, would it be fair to assume that you can also do a similar pass-through to the distributor, or your mitigating strategies will be different?

The third question, and this is more of a follow-up to one of your comments where you mentioned the revenue split between mutual fund, alternates, PMS, and others. I just wanted to understand, was it AUM split or revenue split?

In case it was revenue split, was it on a net basis or gross basis? I'm just adjusting for the fee on the PMS and alternates basically.

Nimesh Shah

Dipanjan, three questions. On your first question on the SIP, the number that we have put out is a systematic transaction number, which is a total of systematic SIP as well plus systematic transfer plan.

Frankly, it doesn't From a commercial perspective, it does not make any difference which scheme the money is coming in. I think the key number that one should look at is what is the inflow that we are getting on account of systematic transactions on a month-on-month basis.

That's the number that we track, and that's the number that we've put out. On your second question on passing on of the reduction which has been proposed under the SEBI circular, as there are two proposals from SEBI with respect to the cut in the TER, and against that fact, there has been some allowances which has been given on account of GST, which we can charge over and above what we are allowed to charge today.

Frankly, this is applicable from 1st of April. If we simply see from maths perspective, there would be implications, impact on some of the larger schemes, but closer to the date, we will assess it, and we'll update you as and when we have more information on this from our side.

On your third point on revenue split, it's actually what I gave you is a revenue split, net revenue of 92, 7, and 1.

Dipanjan Ghosh

Just to clarify, when you say net, it is adjusted for fees, and I think at the time of listing, you had also mentioned there is a line item called business operational expense. Do you adjust for that also, or it's just the fee and commission expense that you're adjusting for?

Nimesh Shah

For alternate, we are only adjusting it for the fee and commission expenses. Because, as in alternate, it's paid from the AMC and not from the fund.

Sometimes the gross looks elevated. What makes then sense is to look at the net number for alternate.

Great.

Dipanjan Ghosh

Got it, sir. Thank you, and all the best.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question is from the line of Mohit Mangal from Centrum.

Please go ahead.

Mohit Mangal

Good evening. Thanks for the opportunity, and congratulations on a strong set of numbers.

My first question is towards the distributor payout. I think you have a very lower distributor payout despite being the highest equity AUM.

Wanted to understand the model that how do you pay the distributor, in the sense that is it based on telescopic pricing or is it revised periodically? If you can just throw some light on that, that would be helpful.

Nimesh Shah

See, on distributor payout, as as you rightly said, on the distributor payout, there is a benchmark with respect to what is being paid out at the industry level. This is something that we do it on a regular basis.

We review what sort of TER we are going to get, and then we decide what sort of sharing we can do with the distributor. This is an ongoing process, and this is something that we monitor, and we review, and we decide on a periodic basis.

Mohit Mangal

Understood. Can we assume that maybe it's done say on a quarterly basis based on how the AUM has kind of moved, or is it an annual exercise?

If you can just throw some light on that.

Nimesh Shah

No, it is done often. It's not an annual exercise.

It is done at least on a quarterly basis, and if need be, otherwise as well. It is also dependent on the long-term relationship with the respective distribution partners.

Mohit Mangal

Understood. My next question is on the ICICI Bank share.

I think it is in the single digit. Are we having some kind of a dialogue that if we can increase the share, if you can just throw some light on that?

Nimesh Shah

You rightly said, ICICI Bank is at AUM-wise 8.1% of our mix. Okay.

Our stand is very clear that we work with every distributor, including ICICI Bank, and wherever bank and their customers, there is a need to invest, we work along with the bank. We continue to maintain the rigor across the distribution, and ICICI Bank is one of the distributor where we work very, very closely with them on the sales side.

Mohit Mangal

Right. The share is in single digit.

Are we trying to increase it further?

Nimesh Shah

The effort is to increase the total pie with every possible distributor, ICICI being one of them. We'll be very happy if the share goes up, but, as I said, the effort is across distribution to keep on increasing the business.

Mohit Mangal

Understood. Thanks, and wish you all the best.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question is from the line of Ansuman Deb from ICICI Securities.

Please go ahead.

Ansuman Deb

Thanks for the opportunity. My first question is on the alternates growth.

Any color you can share in terms of how we can view this growth trajectory? Should it be more steadier than the MF piece?

Any color on that would be great. Secondly, on our employee count, has there been any reduction since FY '25, because the number you share, I thought it was a little lower.

These are the two questions. Thank you.

Nimesh Shah

See, our alternates business is still a relatively newer business. Most of the increase has happened in last few years.

There is a large headroom with respect to the growth. Difficult to predict how much would it be growing by.

As an approach, our focus is on all the business segments. We are equally focused on mutual fund; we are also focused on alternate, and within alternate also, various subcomponents of it.

Ultimately, what is key is that the performance under the scheme should also remain good. From focus perspective, that is what we will do our job, and let's see how the numbers play out.

Okay. On the employee count, frankly, I don't think you should see too much into the marginal fall.

I believe we keep looking at rationalization. It could be numbers here and there.

As I see, for example, vis-a-vis the last quarter and this quarter, number is pretty much flattish.

Ansuman Deb

Understood. Thanks a lot.

Operator

Thank you. The next question is from the line of Bhavya Sanghvi from Alchemy Capital.

Please go ahead.

Bhavya Sanghvi

Am I audible?

Nimesh Shah

You are audible, sir. You may proceed.

Bhavya Sanghvi

Thank you so much for the opportunity, sir. I joined the call a little late.

Could you help me with the yield in different parts of the segment, including mutual funds and AIF alternates? Thank you.

Nimesh Shah

For the nine months ended December '25, on equity, our margins are 67 basis points; on debt, it is 32 basis points; on liquid, it's 12 basis points; passive is 9 basis points; and arbitrage is 30 basis points. On alternate, on gross, yield is 1.99%, while on net, it is 97 basis points.

These are all on annualized basis.

Bhavya Sanghvi

Thank you. The second question would be, could you also help me with the outstanding number of SIPs and SWPs put together?

See,

Nimesh Shah

again, as it actually doesn't matter. Our average SIP would be pretty much in line with that of the industry in terms of number of accounts.

Okay. The current SIP plus STP book that we have as of December 31st, 2025, is 5,000 crores.

That's the outstanding number, I think.

Bhavya Sanghvi

So, 5,000 crore is exactly what, sir? Sorry.

Nimesh Shah

5,000 crore is the amount that gets triggered every month, and it automatically comes into the fund. In a systematic route, it comes into the scheme.

It is a combination of SIP plus STPs. It's actually 5,037 to be exact.

Bhavya Sanghvi

Sure. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, to ask a question, you may please press * and 1.

Our next question is from the line of Ansh Mehta from Value Partners. Please go ahead.

Ansh Mehta

Hello. Am I audible?

Operator

Yes, sir. You are audible.

Ansh Mehta

Yeah. Thank you, sir.

Just a quick question. Your employee count is almost double the size of your next listed competitor.

I just wanted a color on is that because the alternates business is sort of larger or is it more because of a push business in your distribution? If you can just throw some color on that.

Nimesh Shah

As you rightly pointed out, clearly, we have an business line on the alternate. Within alternate also, as you would have seen in our presentation, there are multiple business lines.

In alternate, we have listed equity PMS, we have AIFs as well, we have real estate, we have private credit. All these means that we would have investment team across all these business lines, we would have support functions, operations, sales.

Hence, our count increases because of this incremental business that we have. I think that's See, we have discussed this.

It's exactly because we have employees on roll, and the focus for us has been that every business that we start should be viable, and we are conscious that it should break even. If we start a new initiative, we are conscious at what AUM level it will break even.

We do take initiatives which will initially increase costs, but if we see a roadmap of more revenue. Don't compare only the number of employees.

It is good to be overinvested in a business which is growing continuously. See, I'll just give you an example in equity investment, forget every other area.

The AUM has been growing very fast. Almost every three to 3.5 years, we have been doubling our AUM.

We create fund managers internally. All my fund managers in the mutual fund side have been created internally.

My investment team will be way more than anybody else that you'll compare with, because we believe that we will create more fund managers internally, and so that we need whatever we need. Today, we are 6.5 lakh crores.

Three years back, our AUM was much lesser than that. We don't go and search for fund managers today.

I had invested three years back. Today, I've got 15 fund managers on the mutual fund side, and we know that we are overinvested.

In this business, since it is growing well, it is better to be overinvested as far as creating capabilities and capacities is concerned. Don't only look at the incremental cost.

When you compare numbers, don't only look at the incremental cost; look at the incremental revenue. Incremental operating profit, there is only one word we understand, the incremental operating profit.

Please see that.

Ansh Mehta

That's well noted. Thank you, sir.

Just one more question. In your P&L statement, when you compare it with other competitors, maybe this is just my way of reading, but it is only ICICI that shows a distribution expense, whereas other AMCs would generally list their revenue as net of any commission expenses.

Is there any reason why your distribution expenses are higher apart from the alternate business? That point is noted.

No,

Nimesh Shah

it is only on account of alternate business. Our

Ansh Mehta

Your higher distribution Right.

Nimesh Shah

If you read our P&L, you would see under expenses a head called fee and commission expenses, which is on account of the commission expenses for the alternate business, which by regulation has to be paid not from the fund, but from the AMC. We earn gross fees and then we pay that commission.

Hence, if the gross is reflected in the revenue, the expenses are reflected in the expense item.

Ansh Mehta

Understood. Noted, sir.

Thank you, and best of luck.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question is from the line of Viraj Negandhi from Piper Serica.

Please go ahead. Viraj, your line has been unmuted.

You may proceed with your question. As we're not receiving a response from the current participant, we will [unclear] participant in the queue.

Our next question is from the line of Gaurav Jani from Prabhudas Lilladher. Please go ahead.

Gaurav Jani

Congrats, sir, on a good quarter. Just one question.

Last three quarters, we have been seeing operating leverage play out in terms of opex to assets reducing. Safe to assume this would be a trend going forward or how should we look at it?

See,

Nimesh Shah

we don't know how the AUM is going to shape up in future. As I said, since there has been a lot of growth, both on the AUM and the resultant growth on the revenue, operating leverage, as you rightly saw, has been played out.

We don't know how it is going to be in future. It's a very difficult to say if that's going to be the case in the next few quarters as well.

Gaurav Jani

Sure, sir. Understood that.

That is it from my end. Thanks.

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, if you wish to ask questions, you may please press * and 1.

Our next question is from the line of Mohit Motwani from Tara Capital. Please go ahead.

Mohit Motwani

Hi, am I audible?

Nimesh Shah

Mohit.

Mohit Motwani

Just a clarification on the data points that you have given. The yields that you provided for the different asset classes, the mutual fund revenue comes out as 83% of the total revenue from operations.

Will that be a correct understanding, because the blended yield is 47 basis points for mutual fund segment?

Nimesh Shah

No. I think the way you're looking at, you should see the net number on the alternate side, because we've given out the gross as well as the net yield on the alternate.

Insofar as in the alternate, the net yield, as I've mentioned, is 97 basis points, while in the revenue, the yields are stated at gross level, and hence if you calculate the mix based on gross, you'll find a different number. If you calculate based on net, I think that's the right way of looking at it, and the split that as I gave out is the right split.

Mohit Motwani

Sure. Thank you.

Thanks for the clarification.

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, to ask a question, you may press * and 1.

Our next question is from the line of Lalit Mohan Dave from Equirus Securities. Please go ahead.

Lalit Deo

Yes, sir. Just a follow-up on the revenue side.

It appears that the yield on the advisory business comes around 17, 18 basis points. While in the first half, it was coming around 30, 31 basis points.

Is the calculation correct, and how should we see this business going ahead for the next two, three years?

Nimesh Shah

No, yield for the nine months on the advisory business is about 32 basis points. It's not the number that you are mentioning.

It is actually 32 basis points.

Lalit Deo

Sir. Sir, how should we see this business take off incrementally for the next two, three years in terms of growth and

Nimesh Shah

See, this is effectively the money which we advise. This is the funds which have been raised outside India where we are advising.

Various parameters which play with respect to the growth of this AUM, all international parameters also come in. We did see a good jump in this AUM in the past period.

Of late, it has been flattish. Again, it's a factor of how the market does, but it is also a factor of how does these international investors allocate their money across geographies and asset classes.

That would effectively determine the trajectory of the AUM and the resultant revenue for us.

Lalit Deo

Sure, sir.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question is from the line of Ashish Sharma from Oaklane Capital.

Please go ahead.

Ashish Sharma

Hi. Hope I'm audible.

Operator

You are audible, sir. You may proceed.

Ashish Sharma

Yeah. Just wanted to check on the yields on the alternate side.

I know the net yield for the business is close to 90 bps. From a outlook perspective, do you see this yield on the PMS or the alternate piece sort of sustain, or you think eventually there would be some pricing pressure on the alternate side?

Nimesh Shah

See, one thing that we know is that unlike mutual fund, in alternate, there isn't any formula-based pricing. Hence, at various AUMs, technically, this yields could remain the same.

Now, whether this yield remains at this level or it comes down depends on various parameters. We will have to see how things proceed.

If we look at the past period, you would see this yield around this number itself. I think that is how you should see this.

Ashish Sharma

Okay. In this clarification perspective, the sourcing for the alternate, is the mix similar to the mutual fund or is it different?

Nimesh Shah

The percentage mix may vary a bit, but the approach towards customer and distribution in terms of getting the business is similar. The mix may vary a bit.

Ashish Sharma

Perfect. That would be all from my side, and congratulations once again on a good set of numbers, sir.

Thank you, and all the best.

Operator

Thank you. The next question is from the line of Yash Mehta from Malabar Investments.

Please go ahead.

Yash Mehta

Thank you for the opportunity. Congratulations, Mr.

Shah and the team, on fantastic listing and the performance that has been delivered. Sir, I have two questions.

My first question is despite the strong market power and position, you've actually not gone and renegotiated blanket variabilization of your back book like some of the other AMCs have chosen to do. I wanted to understand how are you tracking this decision, how do you think about it.

You are in a position to do this. It is that you've not exercised that thing, I'm always trying to figure out why the reluctance to do it, because we've clearly seen feedback from the larger distributors that your other peers in the top five, top 10 AMCs have chosen to kind of go for some of those renegotiations.

That is my first question. I'm happy to take the second question later, or can continue right now as well.

Nimesh Shah

Go ahead, Yash. Let us know the second question also.

Yash Mehta

Sir, the second question is in terms of your operating profit margins, right, you obviously are industry-leading at 37 odd bps. How should one think about, let's say, maintaining this operating profit yield, or in terms of, let's say, the internal KPIs that the board would have, would it be more driven at absolute operating profit growth, maintaining the yield, the ROE, just in terms of maximizing for a certain variable, what is that variable?

That would be my second question.

Nimesh Shah

Okay. On your first question, Yash, the way we do our distribution commission pricing is on marginal TER.

Which effectively means that we look at what's going to be the TER that we will get on the new phase which is going to happen in the near future, what is it that it would earn us, and then decide how much of that we could pay as commission to the distributors. It is not based on the average TER that we are earning on our book, and hence, by this methodology, this approach, it is automatically ensured that every money that we get, we know what is it that we will earn and how much we are paying.

Hence, the likelihood of us going and correcting the commissions of the past is less in our case. It's actually not required through this formula.

On your second point on operating profit margin, frankly, see, there are various levers here. You mentioned 37 basis point is what we are getting.

As you could see, this would depend on the revenue mix between mutual fund and alternate. It would also depend on within mutual fund the component of equity vis-a-vis other asset classes.

It has just so happened that this number has been around this for us for some time. It's not that we are looking to target a particular number or trying to be at this number.

We are trying to optimize every business verticals that we have. We are trying to be equally focused on all of them.

The operating margin which comes, which is 37 basis points for this quarter, is an output. In future also, when we work on all the levers, output would be whatever it will be, but we are not working towards a particular number of basis point on this.

From a board perspective, I believe the direction to us is obviously on operating PAT, and that's the number that board typically reviews us at. That's one number as we are not looking at a particular basis point, but what is our operating PAT on a quarter-on-quarter basis, that is something that we are mindful of.

The board is conscious of two numbers: One is our fund performance and how the fund performance is going, and second is that vis-a-vis the fund performance, how much do we sell in the market, what is the percentage market share. If 100 rupees is sold in the market, how much do we share on that, that is the market share we are talking about.

The third is that it should be profitable.

Yash Mehta

Operating profit is a very, very important matrix. Internally, we would look at operating profit and not total profit, because total profit also has an element of other income, which I have discussed with a lot of you.

These are the three parameters: fund performance, how much do we sell given the fund performance, and what is our operating profit. Sir, if I may ask a follow-up to that, and good to listen to you, Mr.

Shah, in fact that the second point that you mentioned is not a publicly disclosed figure, what is the expectation like? A ballpark is good enough.

What expectation? Which second number?

Sir, you said if there is a certain industry net sales, what share of industry net sales is generally targeted at your end?

Nimesh Shah

Yash, our endeavor is that our net sales flow share should be higher than our AUM market share.

Yash Mehta

Okay. Fair enough.

Perfect. That's all from my side.

Thank you, and all the best.

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, we will now take one last question from the line of Gaurav Jani from Prabhudas Lilladher.

Please go ahead.

Yash Mehta

Thanks for the follow-up. Just one clarification.

The split between revenue, right? What you mentioned is the total revenue of 1,515 crore minus the PMS/AIF expense of 109 crore, right, that comes to about 1,406 crore, that is to be split between 92, 7, and 1%, right?

Nimesh Shah

92, 7, and 1, yes.

Yash Mehta

Perfect, then. Thank you so much.

Thanks.

Operator

Thank you. I would now like to hand the conference over to Mr.

Navin Agarwal for closing comments. Over to you, sir.

Navin Agarwal

Thank you, everyone. We appreciate the interest shown by the analyst and the investor community today on the call.

I wish to thank all of you. I wish you all a good evening.

Yash Mehta

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. On behalf of ICICI Prudential AMC Limited, that concludes this conference.

Thank you all for joining us. You may now disconnect your lines.