Mankind Pharma Ltd.

Mankind Pharma Ltd.

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Q1 FY2027 · Earnings Call TranscriptJuly 30, 2026

Abhishek Agarwal

Thank you, Yashashree. Good evening everyone, and thank you for joining us for our first quarter FY27 earnings conference call.

On call today, we have Mr. Rajeev Juneja, our Vice Chairman and Managing Director; Mr.

Sheetal Arora, Chief Executive Officer and Whole-time Director; Mr. Sudipta Roy, Senior President - Sales and Marketing; Mr.

Ashutosh Dhawan, Global Chief Financial Officer; and Mr. Prakash Agarwal, President - Strategy.

We will commence today's call with opening remarks from Mr. Rajeev Juneja, who will provide an overview of the quarter, followed by key business updates from Mr.

Sheetal Arora. Mr.

Ashutosh Dhawan will then share the detailed financial performance for the quarter, following which we will open the floor for the Q&A session. Before we begin, please note that today's discussion may include certain forward-looking statements based on management's current expectations.

These statements are subject to various risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ materially, and Mankind does not undertake any obligation to update or revise these statements in the future. Please refer to the detailed disclaimer available in the investor presentation uploaded on our website.

With that, I now hand over the call to Rajeev sir for his remarks.

Rajeev Juneja

Thank you, Ashit, and a very good evening to all. Welcome to quarter one '27 earning call.

Our disciplined execution and strengthening business fundamentals resulted in improvements across key operating and financial metrics in quarter one '27, laying the foundation to deliver a sustainable growth. During the quarter, overall revenue increased to ₹4,031 crore, up 13% year-on-year, with EBITDA of ₹1,060 crore and EBITDA margin improving by 250 bps year-on-year to 26.3%.

Revenue from the domestic business, excluding consumer healthcare, increased by 11% year-on-year to ₹3,180 crore quarter one '27, led by double-digit growth in base business and a strong growth momentum in chronic and BSV specialty business. The secondary sales as per IQVIA grew 12.7% during the quarter, led by healthy volume growth of 4.7%, which increased by 220 bps year-on-year.

Growth was supported by continued strong momentum in chronic portfolio and outperformance in the gastro, vitamins, gynaec segment, which led to growth recovery in acute business. In recent years, IPM has witnessed a significant shift towards chronic and specialized therapies, driven largely by the rising prevalence of chronic diseases and changing lifestyle.

In line with this trend, we are steadily expanding our presence in chronic and specialty therapies while continuing to strengthen our core multi-specialty business. I'm delighted to share that our focused initiatives across key chronic therapies have translated into increase of 80 bps year-on-year in our chronic share, excluding BSV, to 40%, primarily driven by strong growth of 19.4% in cardiac, 12.7% in anti-diabetic.

We remain focused on increasing our chronic share to 50% in medium term. To further strengthen our presence in multi-specialty business, we have launched a new division, Vistar, which would help scale some of the lesser-focused brands in existing divisions.

Moving ahead, our consumer healthcare business delivered a revenue of ₹246 crore in quarter one '27, partly impacted by discounted cash-and-carry business. Despite softer growth, we gained market share in key brands: Manforce, Prega News, Gas-O-Fast.

Also, modern trade and e-commerce share increased to 15% from 11% a year ago, supported by 38% growth in that channel. Innovation and specialization continue to remain central to our long-term strategy, and we are steadily building differentiated, science-led pipeline that complement our existing portfolio.

We've also partnered with De Novo science to launch an AI-led drug discovery program, making an important step in strengthening our innovation-driven and technology-enabled R&D capabilities. We remain committed to deliver innovative, science-backed products at affordable prices, ensuring across the country and driving sustainable long-term growth.

I will now invite Sheetal to walk you through more details on our business performance.

Sheetal Arora

Good evening, everyone, and thank you for joining us for Mankind Pharma's quarter one financial year '27 earnings call. It is a pleasure to connect with all of you today.

Financial year 2027 started with a healthy growth rate, carrying forward the momentum from last few quarters as we continue to witness sequential improvement across our businesses. Let me begin with our overall domestic business.

In quarter one financial year '27, revenue from our domestic business increased by 10.5% year-on-year to ₹3,426 crore. This growth was driven by a 15.8% increase in our chronic portfolio, growth recovery in the acute portfolio, and strong double-digit growth in BSV.

Let me share some key highlights for the quarter. Starting with our chronic business, an important long-term growth driver for us.

In anti-diabetics, excluding tirzepatide, we outperform IPM by 1.1 time 1x. The Glyzid brand family continues to demonstrate strong momentum, delivering 29% year-on-year growth in quarter one financial year '27.

In cardiac, we outperform IPM by 1.1 times, growing 19.4% year-on-year. Our Telmikind family grew approximately 21% year-on-year, while Lipirose and Statpure grew 30% and 31%, respectively.

Coming to acute therapies, our acute portfolio has steadily recovered and is now broadly in line with IPM growth, improving from 6.1% 1% in quarter one financial year '26 to 10.9% in quarter one financial year '27. Our gastro portfolio outperformed the market by 1.2x of IPM, growing at 13.6% year-on-year with 1.8 times outperformance in Pantakind.

In gynaecology, we delivered 12.7% year-on-year growth ahead of IPM growth of 12.1%, primarily led by continued strong double-digit growth in our IVF portfolio, up 39% in both Folligraph and Humog, and 20% growth in Dydroboon, that is 1.5 times of market growth. We continue to see healthy momentum in VMN, growing 19.3% year-on-year, while anti-infective saw steady recovery from -1.1% in quarter four financial year '26 to 3.6% year-on-year in quarter one financial year '27.

Our prescription leadership continues to remain one of the strongest indicator of the sustainability of our business. We continue to hold the number one position in prescription with 15.2% prescription share in quarter one financial year '27.

This leadership is underpinned by the trust we have earned from doctors over decades, driven by consistent quality, affordability, and disciplined field execution. Moving to our international business, revenue for the quarter grew 29% year-on-year to ₹605 crore.

As we move forward, our strategic priorities remain clear: to drive scale with profitability, strengthen our presence in chronic and specialty therapies, expand our global footprint with differentiated portfolio, and accelerate innovation and execution. Equally important is our commitment in fostering talent and nurturing a culture of collaboration and excellence.

We aim to build a future-ready healthcare organization that delivers sustainable long-term growth while staying true to our purpose of making quality healthcare more accessible and affordable. With that, I would now like to hand over the call to Ashutosh ji, who will take you through the financial performance in greater detail.

Thank you so much.

Ashutosh Dhawan

Thanks, Sheetal ji. A very good evening, everyone.

It's good to have you all with us today. I will now take you through the quarter one financial year '27 financial update.

Our revenue from operations during quarter one FY27 has increased by 12.9% year-on-year basis to ₹4,031 crores as compared to ₹3,570 crores in quarter one FY26. This was led by strong growth in BSV specialty business and 29% growth in the international business.

Our gross margins for the quarter has increased by 230 basis point year-on-year basis to 72.8% from 70.5% in quarter one FY26, and 60 basis point increase on quarter-on-quarter basis. This year-on-year increase is primarily driven by three factors: firstly, the impact of sales price increase what we have taken; secondly, a better sales mix, as our chronic contribution has increased by 120 basis point on a year-on-year basis; and lastly, there has been a favorable base effect, as quarter one last year the gross margins were compressed due to certain inventory-related accruals taken for slow and non-moving items.

Our reported EBITDA margin for the quarter has increased to 26.3% as compared to 23.8% in quarter one FY26. This increase of 250 basis point is primarily driven by two factors: 230 basis point increase is from the gross margin expansion, and the balance 20 basis point benefit has come from the operating leverage.

The R&D expenses for the quarter was ₹98 crores, which is at 2.4% of sales, and is higher than R&D spend of 2.2% of sales as incurred during quarter one FY26. This 2.4% is lower than our guidance of 2.8% to 3% for the full year FY27.

The finance cost for quarter one FY27 has declined to ₹110 crores from ₹142 crores during Q4 FY26. This reduction was primarily driven by the impact of repayment of NCD tranche of ₹1,250 crores in quarter one FY27.

In quarter one FY27, the depreciation and amortization expenses was broadly in line at ₹226 crores as compared to ₹219 crores in quarter one FY26. The effective tax rate for quarter one FY27 was at 25.4% as compared to 17.7% in quarter one FY26.

This increase in effective tax rate is due to adoption of new tax regime this financial year following the expiry of tax exemption period for our Sikkim plant. The profit after tax for quarter one FY27 grew by 29.1% year-on-year to ₹574 crores, with PAT margin improving to 14.2% during the quarter as compared to 12.5% in quarter one FY26, resulting in an increase of 170 basis point.

This growth was primarily driven by stronger EBITDA margins and lower financial cost, which has got offset by increased effective tax rate. Our diluted EPS is ₹13.7 per share of ₹1 paid for the quarter for the current quarter.

The cash EPS, which is EPS adjusted for non-cash items like depreciation and amortization, has increased during the quarter to ₹19.2 from ₹15.9 in quarter one FY26, which is an increase of 20.8% year-on-year basis. The net operating working capital days for the quarter on trailing 12-month basis has increased to 52 days as compared to 48 days in the corresponding period last year, which is mainly due to increased inventory levels.

In quarter one FY27, our cash flow to EBITDA ratio has decreased to 77% as compared to 99% in quarter one FY26. This drop of 22% in cash flow to EBITDA ratio is a combination of higher effective tax rate, working capital, and base effect in quarter one FY26.

Our capex spend during the quarter has increased to ₹198 crores in quarter one FY27 as compared to ₹127 crores in quarter one FY26. The capex as a percentage of revenue is 4.9% of the total revenue, which is lower than our guidance of 6% to 7% of revenue for FY27.

In line with our prudent financial strategy, we reduced our net debt to ₹3,377 crores as of 30th June 2026, resulting in the net debt to adjusted EBITDA ratio of 0.9x in Q1 FY27, and we remain on track to repay the acquisition-related debt by FY28. With this, we conclude our financial update and welcome any questions which you may have.

Over to you, Prakash ji.

Prakash Agarwal

We are open for questions.

Operator

Yes, thank you very much. We will now begin with the question and answer session.

Kindly announce your company name and then proceed with your question. Allow us a moment, please.

Mr. Pankaj Tibrewal, please announce your company name and proceed with your question.

Pankaj Tibrewal

Thank you. This is Pankaj Tibrewal from IKIGAI Asset Manager.

Am I audible?

Operator

Yes.

Ashutosh Dhawan

Yes, you are audible. Okay.

Pankaj Tibrewal

Just from a India business perspective, just wanted to get a sense that always we have talked about India business growing at 1.2 to 1.3 times the IPM growth. Last year was obviously not a great year.

This year also the start has not been as great, because the IPM itself, the market has been very, very strong. How do you foresee the remaining 9 months for this year from a India growth perspective?

Then I'll come to my second question on BSV. Thank you.

Hey

Sheetal Arora

Pankaj, if you're asking about the Indian growth perspective, I will tell you that we have already returned to double-digit growth. More importantly, the quality of growth has improved.

If you see our chronic portfolio, which is growing by 15.8%, acute has also recovered to around 10.9%, and BSV is showing strong growth in first quarter of this year. Even the volume growth has improved to 4.7%, which was 2.3% in last financial year '26.

If looking at to answer your question of 9 months looking ahead, we are confident of progressively outperforming IPM because our growth is being driven by structural levers, not short-term factors. The building blocks are in place.

We are increasing our chronic mix, where we are currently at about 40%, and see the potential to move towards 50% over the next 4 to 5 years. Second is we are scaling our hospital business, where our market share is still significantly below our peers, giving us a long runway for growth.

Third, we are launching a new focus division with non-focus brands in existing divisions. Fourth, improving performance in under-penetrated states where our market ranking is below our national standard, creating a meaningful opportunity to gain share.

These are the long-term growth drivers that should enable us to consistently gain market share and progressively outperform IPM. I hope that...

Great.

Pankaj Tibrewal

Thank you. Can we from here on expect Mankind to consistently outperform IPM with the field force change, everything we have done, and all the long-term drivers we are talking about?

Is it a fair expectation?

Sheetal Arora

We will definitely grow double-digit. The measure we are taking—increasing our hospital penetration, the non-focus brand will be promoted in new division, definitely double-digit growth will come in a time to come.

Pankaj Tibrewal

Okay. The second question on BSV.

I remember last year when we started, we spoke about 18%-20% growth on BSV, whereas actual growth was about 5%-6% and largely coming from export, and domestic saw a decline. When you look at this year now, obviously first quarter has started on a decent note.

How do we see BSV growth spanning out for this year?

Prakash Agarwal

Let me correct you, Pankaj. Last year, BSV growth was around early teens, well spread across domestic and international.

This quarter, the growth is around 21%, and we have given guidance of high double-digit growth, which is high teens.

Pankaj Tibrewal

If we break that into domestic and export, how should we think about?

Prakash Agarwal

BSV domestic is around 17%, and international is around 25%.

Pankaj Tibrewal

Okay. That helps us.

Thank you, and wish you guys all the best. Thank you so much.

Operator

Thank you. Next is Rashmi Shetty.

Rashmi, kindly announce your company name and proceed with your question.

Rashmi Shetty

Hi. Am I audible?

Ashutosh Dhawan

Yes, you are.

Rashmi Shetty

Yeah. Thanks for the opportunity.

I'm from Dolat Capital. One question on this net working capital, you mentioned that the inventory has been increased and currently the working capital is around 52 days.

At the end of the year also it will remain elevated, or it is expected to decline?

Ashutosh Dhawan

We expect it to come down by the year-end because of some price advantages, etc. The inventory levels are, I would say, slightly above the normal trends what we used to maintain.

We can expect rationalization in the inventory levels in the coming quarters.

Rashmi Shetty

Okay. This inventory level which was high, was it because of high raw material prices, anything which you all have witnessed during the quarter?

Ashutosh Dhawan

Since we were sitting on a comfortable inventory level, therefore, if you would have observed, the gross margins are pretty healthy, and so they are at 72.8%. The price increase impact has not flown into the financial because of the good inventory level.

However, the next quarter also we may see a compression in the gross margins level because the prices of the commodities and the dollar, etc., has increased. Having said that, we would like to maintain the same guidance what we gave: the gross margins to be upward of 71% and the EBITDA guidance to be 25.5% to 26.5%.

So...

Rashmi Shetty

Okay. Which is taking into account even the impact coming from the high raw material prices?

Ashutosh Dhawan

Absolutely, yes.

Rashmi Shetty

Other inflationary cost?

Ashutosh Dhawan

Yeah.

Rashmi Shetty

Okay. On the consumer healthcare business, I'm seeing that, again, you all have given a very low growth of around 3.8% and you all have discontinued some cash-and-carry business.

If you can explain that in detail, what exactly you all have done and how should we look at this piece of business? See,

Prakash Agarwal

Mankind, wherever we basically do any kind of a business, it should have a very strong foundation. Wherever we found that something has to be done, we have done that.

Cash-and-carry business was basically impacting the general trade, we just stopped sales over there. As a whole, market has been a bit softer, but on the second side, as far as the market share is concerned, Manforce condoms share has been increased, Prega News share has been increased, Gas-O-Fast share has been increased.

We see going forward high teen to double-digit growth in second quarter onwards. High single-digit to double-digit in second quarter onwards.

Rashmi Shetty

Okay. That is in the remaining 9 months we're expecting.

Prakash Agarwal

Right, yeah.

Rashmi Shetty

Okay. What about the debt levels?

We are expecting a complete repayment by FY28?

Prakash Agarwal

Yeah. Acquisition-related debt.

Rashmi Shetty

Acquisition-related debt. Okay.

Prakash Agarwal

That is something

Rashmi Shetty

that was the doubt. Thank you so much.

That's it from my side.

Operator

Thank you. Next question is from Kunal Dhamesha.

Kunal, kindly announce your company name and proceed with your question, please.

Kunal Dhamesha

Hi, this is Kunal here from Macquarie. First question for Ashutosh sir on the cash EPS number that you are sharing of around ₹19 for the quarter, that excludes the entire depreciation and amortization or just the acquisition-related amortization for BSV?

No,

Ashutosh Dhawan

this is after all these adjustments. This is the reported EPS after adjustments of all the tax and depreciation, amortization.

Kunal Dhamesha

The full depreciation, amortization has been taken out?

Ashutosh Dhawan

Yeah.

Kunal Dhamesha

Sir, that's not the normal practice the way large pharma does, right? They just remove the acquisition-related amortization to arrive at cash EPS.

Ashutosh Dhawan

Cash EPS is after depreciation, amortization, and impairment expenses. The cash EPS is the cash portion, yeah.

Kunal Dhamesha

Right, but if I just remove the acquisition-related amortization, let's say BSV-related amortization, then what would be the cash EPS for the quarter and keep the Mankind-related depreciation and amortization still in the numbers?

Ashutosh Dhawan

Broadly the total depreciation is in the range of ₹225 cr, and out of that you can broadly 50% allocated towards the acquisition-related depreciation. We can do the calculation and share with you the numbers subsequently.

Or

Prakash Agarwal

we can take this offline.

Ashutosh Dhawan

Yeah.

Kunal Dhamesha

Because large pharma company only takes the acquisition-related amortization out when they calculate cash EPS, yeah. Second question on, let's say with the launch of the GLP-1 molecules, and then we are kind of excluding tirzepatide when we kind of say that we are outperforming the anti-diabetics.

Just from the covered market perspective, how would have we moved, let's say, from a 3-year perspective? Let's say maybe FY22, what was the proportion of IPM was under our covered market versus what it would be now?

Has there been a meaningful change there, which is what is leading to this gap between the IPM growth versus our growth? What's the strategy to kind of come back to that covered market proportion that we earlier had?

Prakash Agarwal

Kunal, if you see the molecules that we've been launching over the last 3 years, if you see Glizid, if you see the newer molecules on DPP-4, SGLT2, we are among the top 8, top 9 players. Historically, we were always in the older molecules.

In the diabetes space, we have also launched insulin. There's a lot of new initiative in terms of launches and being the top 7, top 8 players.

Historically, we were not very big in anti-diabetics, and if you see, we have been outperforming anti-diabetics as a segment of 1.2 to 1.3 3 times. Having said that, post GLP, etc., since we are very strategic in terms of launching GLP, excluding that, we're still outperforming.

Now GLP, since it's generic, we have taken that into base. We are just saying excluding tirzepatide, ex GLP we would have done better.

So 1.2 to 1.3x we hope that we'll come back to that overall covered market that we were doing.

Kunal Dhamesha

Covered market except for tirzepatide, you don't think that there is meaningful change for us?

Prakash Agarwal

Exactly.

Kunal Dhamesha

Okay. Lastly for Rajeev sir, what's driving the cautiousness around launching the GLP-1?

We have always been aggressive in terms of new product launches, right? Why the conservatism here, especially if we're doing well in some of the newer therapies of oral anti-diabetic like SGLT2 and DPP-4, why are we holding back?

Kunal,

Rajeev Juneja

when we have advantage of launching some product in the first phase, in the sense that if first 3, 4 companies are launching and we are one of those, we'll surely go all out. Somehow, when we saw that so many companies are launching—right now if you see, more than 20 companies, 35-plus kind of brands are there, everything is there, vial, injectable, single.

Our thought was let this storm pass, let's wait sideways and see what basically happens. Along with this, not only launching this as a one molecule, launch it as a therapy.

That kind of a approach we have taken. It is not a caution approach, it's a strategic approach actually.

Why to put your resources in something which tomorrow is very, very competitive? That was the thought.

Honestly, to some sense, we are quite right in that. We've launched two brands from two divisions, one in Gynae and one is this diabetes division, along with protein, along with other supplements, so that we can basically focus on the complete therapy instead of only this GLP.

Kunal Dhamesha

Okay. I still don't get it, because I still believe hypertension would be more competitive than GLP-1, right?

We are there in hypertensive therapy. Why the cautious approach, since we have always been aggressive and we have done well historically?

See,

Rajeev Juneja

it's not a cautious approach, it's a strategic approach. Let the time pass, let few quarter pass, you will see that.

Kunal, just to give a data point to you. So 5 years back, fiscal '21, our covered market was only 56%, and we were ranked 10 in anti-diabetic segment.

If I see fiscal '26, our covered market has increased to 74% of the market, and we are ranked seven overall and with a market share of 4.5%. There is a big change in the covered market and our ranks have also improved by three positions.

Kunal Dhamesha

This increase in covered market, shouldn't it have accelerated our growth vis-à-vis market?

Rajeev Juneja

That's what we said, no? If you have these products and you're among the top 7, top 8 players, you would have seen an accelerated growth with these SGLT2 and DPP-4s as launches.

Kunal Dhamesha

This is for anti-diabetic you're talking about, not for the Mankind...

Rajeev Juneja

Anti-diabetic. Yeah.

Oh,

Kunal Dhamesha

I understood... Covered

Rajeev Juneja

market in anti-diabetic has increased from 56% to 74%, as you know we launched insulin, DPP-4, and SGLT.

Kunal Dhamesha

Okay. My question was more from overall market perspective, Mankind's overall domestic formulation business perspective as to have we seen a different swing in terms of the covered market, which could also be one of the driver for us to be kind of missing on the IPM growth?

Rajeev Juneja

No. In terms of covered market from the IPM perspective, we have added, for example, respiratory inhalation products, which was not there.

If you see in anti-diabetic, as I just mentioned, insulins, which was not there; respiratory inhalers, which was not there, we have added that; cardio, lot of cholesterol-lowering, lipid-lowering profile products we have launched. There's a lot of increase in covered market.

It is also with a focus of some of the in-licensing products. For example, recently we had a CNS, Rivotril from Roche.

There's a lot of initiative in adding chronic as well as specialty products to increase our covered market.

Ashutosh Dhawan

If you are referring to new launches, new launches have been softer as compared to IPM. If you look at Q1, the new introduction, NI contribution is 2.8% as compared to IPM 4.1%.

If you are referring to the slower growth rate, this is one of the contributor to that.

Kunal Dhamesha

Okay. IPM would include all the GLP-1s for the NI, do you think?

Because, yeah, that has happened in last 1

Prakash Agarwal

year.

Kunal Dhamesha

Okay.

Ashutosh Dhawan

4.1% is including GLP.

Kunal Dhamesha

Okay. Thank you, and all the best.

Operator

Thank you. Next question is from Neha Manpuria.

Neha, kindly announce your company name and proceed with your question.

Neha Manpuria

Thanks for taking my question. This is Neha from Bank of America.

First, just an extension on the new products question. I think we've mentioned last year that because of the change in the MR, etc., we weren't launching as many new products, which was one of the reasons for the lag.

Now that things have normalized, should we expect a higher launch momentum, excluding sema, of course, but higher launch momentum and therefore that growth to narrow meaningfully going forward? Or do you think that takes time to play out?

Prakash Agarwal

Sudipta, can you take this, please?

Sudipta Roy

Yeah. If you see today, our launches are very strategic.

I think what Rajeev sir has told, we specifically launch limited products and individual products try to make it big. If you see in recent launches, our Vonoprazan has become number one, which is our Vonalong.

Even in case of anti-diabetics like empagliflozin, if you see today, it is within the top three brands of new launches. Wherever we are launching new brands, we are making it big.

Yes, we are being selective in new launches, and that has been a very strategic move for us.

Neha Manpuria

Understood. My second question is on the gross margin.

Ashutosh sir, you mentioned gross margin guidance of 71%-plus percent, I think, for the full year. Given where we are in the quarter, I understand there's some cost pressure from West Asia that we might see, but is any reason for the conservatism besides the West Asia impact that we might see, particularly given the higher chronic mix that we're seeing versus last year?

Ashutosh Dhawan

Can you please repeat that question? I lost your last few words on that.

Are you referring to the conservativeness on the gross margins part?

Neha Manpuria

Yes, sir. Other than the West Asia crisis, any other reason for us to be conservative, given that our India growth is picking up, even within that our chronic share is picking up, it seems like the revenue mix is in our favor.

As against the 72.5%, why the 71% guidance?

Ashutosh Dhawan

That's the only caveat we are putting because of the West Asia crisis. We are taking a conservative approach.

Neha Manpuria

All right, okay. The only reason is West Asia, there's nothing else in that.

Ashutosh Dhawan

Neha, the overall EBITDA guidance has not changed, so that's a reliable guidance of 25.5% to 26.5%.

Neha Manpuria

All right, sir. Thank you so much.

Operator

Thank you. Next question is from Bino Pathiparambil.

Kindly announce your company name and go ahead with your question, please.

Bino Pathiparambil

Hi. Good evening.

This is Bino from Elara. Just one quick follow-up question.

Recently you had acquired this brand Rivotril from Roche. How big is that, and what is the potential there?

Prakash Agarwal

Rivotril, if you see the IQVIA numbers, it is in the region of ₹20 to ₹30 cr. We expect that it will give a lot of entry to a lot of specialists because it's a textbook brand in terms of the molecule.

We expect that the growth will start, but first the entry to doctors is important. That we are following on the process and making progress in terms of connecting with the specialist doctors.

Bino Pathiparambil

Okay. You think it can potentially grow up to be a ₹100, ₹200 cr brand?

Is that the thought process behind your acquisition?

Prakash Agarwal

Aspiration is always there, but it will take time. CNS is a category takes time, as it's very specialist portfolio.

Aspiration is to make a good portfolio on the CNS side as well.

Bino Pathiparambil

Got it. Thank you.

I'll join back the queue.

Operator

Thank you. Give me a moment.

Next question is from Ritika. Ritika, kindly announce your company name and go ahead with your question, please.

Ritika, can you please unmute your line? You're on mute.

Ritika Agarwal? Kindly unmute your audio and go ahead with your question, please.

There is no response.

Prakash Agarwal

Can we take the

Operator

next? Yes.

It is from Siddharth Meghani. Siddharth, please announce your company name and proceed with your question.

Siddharth Meghani

Hi. Thanks for taking my question.

Glad to see green shoots of recovery. There were certain actions that you'd mentioned last time that you were taking in terms of reorganization, in terms of focus.

Could you give us some metrics around attrition and around share gains or outperforming certain therapies, sub-therapies that you've seen from that reorganization to help us better understand that, yes, these are green shoots of recovery? That's question one.

Second question is, while I understand that the cash-and-carry business was a dent on general trade and that channel conflict is obvious, but if one were to stop that cash-and-carry business and there is a brand pull, one would see higher general trade sales, right? Why is it that you did not see that comeback through higher general trade sales and instead had lower growth?

Those are my two questions.

Prakash Agarwal

I'll take the first one. In terms of what are the green shoots, first I'll take the acute business.

If I just talk about Gastro, from a -2.5% in Q2, we have seen sequential recovery to 6.9% in Q3, 9.2% in Q4, and now 13.6%. Vitamin, if I see, 5%, moving to 8% in Q3, Q4 was 12.5%, and now 19.3%.

Similarly, we have seen Gynae moving from 6.9% to now 12.7% in Q1. Ophthalmology, 6.2% in Q2 has moved to 14.9%, 18.5%, and now 17.5% in Q1.

Across acute therapies, if you see, we have seen improvement. Our growth in acute therapy had gone down to 3.3% in Q2.

We are now at par with the industry at 10.9%. So 60% of the portfolio still is acute for us, now we are at par, and that's why you've seen a double-digit growth for us.

Coming to Chronic, Cardiac has seen improvement from 14.5% in Q2 to now 19.4% in Q1. Similarly, you've seen Anti-Diabetics, 11.4% moving all the way to 12.7%.

Respiratory, if you see, very strong growth continues in the chronic respiratory side, 20%-plus across the last four quarters. Chronic has moved up from 12.2% in Q2 of last year to now 15.8%.

This overall has resulted in a 6.3% overall growth in Q2 to now 12.7% growth in Q1 of fiscal '27. Green shoots both in acute and chronic we are able to see.

As Sheetal ji mentioned, that every quarter we are trying to improve.

Siddharth Meghani

Got it. Any metric on the attrition side, whether that has improved?

How are you seeing that play out after the re-org?

Prakash Agarwal

In the last 1.5 year, we had seen a lot of shuffling in terms of realignment, improving process, improving traction in terms of doctor visits, etc. Attrition and vacancies are now in control.

It has dropped significantly. It is come back to the normal levels, and you can see the results of sequential improvement.

Because if attrition is high, then you can't see the improvement.

Siddharth Meghani

Got it. Some color on the consumer products business that I spoke about?

Sir,

Rajeev Juneja

consumer business you also have to really understand that this market is very dynamic. General trade, slowly and gradually is being this e-commerce and modern trade is taking the share of general trade.

We cannot really even segregate that general trade is separate and consumer this e-commerce is separate. Same consumer buys the same things.

While we basically took corrective action in cash-and-carry, on the second side, our modern trade and consumer have really grown a lot. Earlier the share was last year the share was 11%, now the share is 15%, supported by a growth of 38%.

On one side the growth is there, but second side, we controlled certain things, and that's the reason. Overall if I say, the market has been a bit softer in consumer side.

That's the reason for that. Again, the positive side recipe is that Manforce share in condom category, Prega News share in pregnancy test, Gas-O-Fast in antacid have improved.

Siddharth Meghani

Got it. Thank you, and all the best.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question is from Ritika Agarwal.

Ritika, kindly announce your company name and proceed with your question.

Ritika Agarwal

Hi. Thank you for taking my question.

This is Ritika from ValueQuest. My question is an extension to earlier participant's question on semaglutide.

Earlier we were commenting that we'll be in the first wave of launch and we've also tied up, and even at that time, the understanding was there will be 20 to 30 players launching the drug. What changed or maybe what went wrong that we couldn't launch this drug?

Rajeev Juneja

We never said that we were the first few companies to launch this product. We could not launch in the first phase, and that's one reason we took a strategic call.

When this planning was happening, our focus was basically on correcting the overall company, actually. The attrition was high, forced attrition was done.

We corrected lot of things in the company. We thought once we correct these things, then we'll launch the product.

At different times you play different strategies, and that's one reason we started launching semaglutide a bit late.

Prakash Agarwal

I'd just like to add, cause of huge competition, price drop was very significant. Since we are taking it from a partner, it doesn't make sense to do a price war.

Rather, we have gone strategic. We are promoting through top-level KOLs, and as Rajeev ji highlighted earlier, that we are looking from a therapy approach.

If we just play with the price war, this will not be a profitable launch. Just an additional information, as he mentioned, we have already launched this product into two segments: one is Anti-Diabetics and the second one is Gynae.

We expect that it will be a gradual takeoff for us since it's a very hyper-competitive and there's a lot of price war happening at the moment.

Ritika Agarwal

Sure. Anything on the export side?

Are we looking to launch this product?

Prakash Agarwal

No. We don't have an export strategy for this.

Ritika Agarwal

Okay. Sure.

That's it from me. Thank you so much.

Thank you.

Operator

We have a follow-up question from Rashmi Shetty. Rashmi, please proceed with your question.

Rashmi Shetty

I'm audible, right?

Operator

Yes, you are. Yeah.

Rashmi Shetty

On the export business also, we have a very strong growth this quarter. What is driving this growth?

I think one reason you mentioned that the BSV has also grown strong, but ex BSV also, it is looking pretty strong. Whether US is contributing significantly or any one-off opportunities, have we benefited during the quarter?

Prakash Agarwal

As I mentioned, BSV is growing by 25%, and also US has done well. We had couple of launches.

If you see, the currency has also helped to the extent of 12% to 13%. Put together, it is in line with our guidance of high teens in the constant currency terms.

Rashmi Shetty

High teens which you're talking about for both the businesses together, right? Mankind plus BSV?

Prakash Agarwal

That is correct. Okay.

Rashmi Shetty

Earlier we used to talk related to one ophthal product which used to contribute higher compared to the other products in the US, that was more of a one-off. Had it seen any competition, and is it sitting in the base, or it is still...

Prakash Agarwal

Last year only it came into base.

Ashutosh Dhawan

It was last to last year in FY25 that was in base,

Rashmi Shetty

so

Ashutosh Dhawan

that was bulky. The bulge was in FY25, and that normalized in FY26, yeah.

Rashmi Shetty

Got it. One question to Prakash related to BSV for this quarter and for FY26, out of the total BSV, the proportion of domestic business, especially for FY26 I want to understand, the proportion of domestic business to export ratio is high or it is lower?

Prakash Agarwal

The ratio of domestic to international For last year you are asking?

Rashmi Shetty

For FY26.

Ashutosh Dhawan

50-50.

Prakash Agarwal

It's around 50-50 last year.

Rashmi Shetty

50-50. This year also...

Prakash Agarwal

49-51 to be precise, yeah.

Rashmi Shetty

This year also it is expected to be in that range?

Prakash Agarwal

Similar range, plus/minus 2%.

Rashmi Shetty

Okay. Got it.

Thank you. Thank you so much.

Operator

Thank you. Thank you.

For any questions, participants may please use the raise hand option available on their screen. To ask a question, please use the raise hand option available on your screen.

We have a question from Gourav Bhama. Kindly announce your company name and proceed with your question.

Yeah.

Gourav Bhama

Hi, sir. Good morning.

Gourav Bhama this side from JM Financial. Am I audible?

Operator

Please go ahead. Yeah.

Sir,

Gourav Bhama

I just wanted to double-check what was the guidance given for consumer healthcare, 2Q onwards?

Prakash Agarwal

We have said high single digit to double digit.

Gourav Bhama

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Next is Shirsh Sawarna.

Kindly announce your company name and proceed with your question. Shirsh?

Shirsh Sawarna

Am I audible? Hello?

Operator

Yes, please go ahead.

Shirsh Sawarna

Hi, I'm Shirsh. I'm from Bernstein.

I have two questions. Firstly, if I may not have understood properly, can you explain what has been the recent scenario of BSV and what exactly are we doing to integrate it properly?

Secondly, on the IPM guidance of domestic, you guys guided of around early teens. Do you expect the IPM to also grow at that rate, or will you be growing above IPM?

Prakash Agarwal

Let me take your second question first. As per our guidance in the last call, we said that we expect sequential recovery and expect full year to be double-digit growth.

Expect Chronic to be better, and also expect recovery in the acute business, which we were able to demonstrate in Q1 also. Coming to BSV, in terms of business-wise, if you see, we always maintained that it would be run as an independent operationally, both in the domestic and international.

We have tweaked in terms of a little bit on the management side, wherever required. We have added in terms of a biotech facility.

We have enhanced the R&D biotech facility. Those are the small changes which we have done from Mankind, but BSV as run independently by professionals.

There is a lot of initiative that has been taken both in domestic and international business. We highlighted that there's a lot of demand creation that is happening for large brands since these are specialist brands like Antithyroid, Foligraf, others.

Gynae coverage has increased from 30 33,000 in fiscal '25 to now 37,000. There's a lot of IVF-related programs that has been activated.

We have more than 80% coverage in the IVF category, which is seeing a very strong growth of 35%-plus. Also there's a lot of clinical work going on in terms of key products, in terms of clinical trials, of expanding market reach for Foligraf, which is FSH; Antithyroid, which is rhythm studies; and also some of the antiallergy products, Histoglob rash studies.

There's a lot of scientific work going on in terms of expanding the domestic business. In international business, we are seeing increasing penetration in the existing markets, plus we are seeing some of the new approvals in large markets like Russia, FSH we recently got approval.

We are also expecting FSH approvals in couple of new markets. There's a lot of initiative going on in terms of newer products in the existing markets.

That's why we have given a guidance of high-teen growth.

Shirsh Sawarna

Got it. That's very helpful.

Just one double-click on my previous question. About the acute, chronic I understand, but in the acute segment, can you specify why did we not do that well as we used to, and how are we going to change things in the upcoming years or quarters?

See,

Rajeev Juneja

we have mentioned number of times about this, that our 60% business comes from the acute side. In acute, relationship and face value really matters.

Maybe 18 months back, we did deep correction, good number of people were removed and changed with new people. That's one reason recovery is there.

Whenever there is a kind of a believe that recovery should be on a strong foundation, recovery happens gradually. Anything happens all of a sudden, very fast, we don't believe in that.

You can see quarter-by-quarter, things are really improving, and we are quite happy with our performance. Mankind always believe that prescription is sales, that's all.

Our policies are like this, that last-week sales should not be there, first-week sales should be very good. We believe in all those processes.

We never said in last couple of quarters that we'll be beating the IPM. We said that we will have this kind of a growth.

Our forecast even this year is that double-digit growth would be there, we'll be having this EBITDA of 25.5% to 26.6%, and aspiration is to come back to where we were few years back. For good number of years, we basically has beaten IPM to 1.7x, a good number of years 1.3 to 1.4 times.

Once you have this kind of a track record, you want to come back to that side. It takes time, we're not in a hurry, but we feel that as every quarter would pass, things will improve, and things are on track.

Look at from the volume-wise, new product-wise, as a whole. That's all.

Got it.

Shirsh Sawarna

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. I now hand the conference over to the management for closing comments.

Over to you, sir.

Prakash Agarwal

Thank you. For any further queries or clarifications, please reach out to us on [email protected].

Have a nice day.

Operator

Thank you, members of the management team. On behalf of Mankind Pharma, that concludes this meeting.

Thank you for joining us, and you may now exit the meeting.