Operator
Ladies and gentlemen, good day, and welcome to the Nava Limited Q3 FY26 earnings conference call hosted by ICICI Securities. As a reminder, all participant lines will be in the listen-only mode, and there will be an opportunity for you to ask questions after the presentation concludes.
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I now hand the conference over to Ms. Nidhi Shah from ICICI Securities.
Thank you, and over to you, ma'am.
Nidhi Shah
Thanks, Shubham. Good evening.
On the behalf of ICICI Securities, I welcome you all to the Q3 and FY26 earnings call of Nava Limited. Today we have with us from the management: Mr.
Ashwin Devineni, Managing Director and CEO; Mr. G.
R. K.
Prasad, Executive Director; Mr. Nikhil Devineni, Executive Director; and Mr.
V. S.
N. Raju, Company Secretary.
We will begin with opening remarks from the management, which will be followed by Q&A. Over to you, sirs.
Ashwin Devineni
Thank you. Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining us.
I would like to begin with a key milestone that underscores our commitment to shareholder value: the successful completion of Nava Global's $50 million buyback, supported by strong dividend flows from Maamba Energy. This transaction reflects the quality of our underlying assets, disciplined capital allocation, and our continued focus on strengthening results to shareholders.
Operationally, Q3 FY26 was a strong quarter for Nava. We delivered healthy revenue growth and a sharp improvement in profitability, with consolidated net profits rising 83.5% quarter-on-quarter.
Our energy business remained resilient. MEL continued to reduce arrears while maintaining high plant availability, and mining posted improved volumes and margins.
Equally important, our growth projects are progressing steadily, from the 300 MW MEL expansion and the 100 MW solar project in Zambia to experiencing early success in our avocado plantations and steady execution of the Kawambwa sugar project. These investments are designed to diversify earnings, enhance cash flows, and build long-term resilience.
We will take any questions now. Thank you.
Operator
Thank you very much. We will now begin with the question-and-answer session.
Anyone who wishes to ask a question may press star and one on your touch-tone telephone. If you wish to remove yourself from the question queue, you may press star and two.
Participants are requested to use handsets while asking a question. In order to ensure that the management is able to address questions from all the participants in the conference, please restrict your questions to two per participant.
For more questions, please rejoin the queue. Ladies and gentlemen, we will wait for a moment while the question queue assembles.
The first question comes from the line of Kaushik Doshi from ICICI Securities. Please go ahead.
Kaushik Doshi
Hello, am I audible, sir?
Operator
Yes, sir. Yeah.
Kaushik Doshi
Thank you for the opportunity, sir, and congratulations for the great achievement. My first question is, other income jumped sharply to ₹70.4 crore in quarter three compared to ₹26 crore in quarter two.
Can you break this down between dividend, interest, and indicate what portion is sustainable?
Ashwin Devineni
You are referring to at consolidation level or at standalone level?
Kaushik Doshi
Sir, at consolidation level.
Ashwin Devineni
Consol level, it is mainly on account of foreign currency fluctuations.
Kaushik Doshi
Sir. What portion is sustainable?
Can you indicate that?
Ashwin Devineni
I'm sorry, can't hear you properly. Can you repeat this?
Kaushik Doshi
What portion of that is sustainable? Can you indicate on that?
Ashwin Devineni
Again, there's a lot of disturbance from the background. Your voice is not clear.
Operator
Sir, there is no disturbance from the background.
Kaushik Doshi
Is it clear now?
Operator
Yes, it's clear.
Ashwin Devineni
Yes,
Kaushik Doshi
it is. Portion of that is sustainable?
Please go ahead.
Ashwin Devineni
Sustainable other income under consol per quarter is around ₹40 crore.
Kaushik Doshi
Sir. Sir, my second question is EBITDA margin expanded sharply to 48.3% from 34.5% quarter-on-quarter.
How much of this expansion is driven by MEL PLF normalization versus cost reversals?
Ashwin Devineni
The major contribution is from MEL power plant. This quarter, MEL power plant operated with 97% PLF.
Indian energy business, the PLF was good, but at the same time, few power plants had a planned shutdown activity.
Kaushik Doshi
Sir. Got it.
Sir, my next question is, mining revenue grew 16.6% quarter-on-quarter due to higher volume. Is this volume run rate sustainable, or was Q3 usually strong?
Ashwin Devineni
In terms of the mining division, I think the average, in terms of sales, are about 35 to 40 to 42,000 tons on a monthly basis. That's what we've been averaging, and that's sustainable.
Kaushik Doshi
Sir. Thank you.
I will come back in queue.
Operator
Thank you. The next question comes from the line of Vaishnavi Gurung from Craving Alpha Wealth Fund.
Please go ahead.
Vaishnavi Gurung
Hello, am I audible?
Operator
Yes, ma'am.
Vaishnavi Gurung
Yeah. Thank you for taking my question, sir.
A few questions from my end. The first one is with respect to Zambia.
In terms of macro perspective, with respect to power, what are the plans of the government to diversify away from hydro power, and do you see any or expect any projects that will generate revenue for us?
Ashwin Devineni
I think the answer to that is Maamba, right? They've already diversified from hydro power by signing PPAs and absorbing power from us, from Phase 1, from Phase 2.
Aside from that, they're encouraging a lot of solar projects. We are undertaking a 100 MW solar project, while there are other solar projects also in the country coming up, some commissioned and some yet to be commissioned.
I think they are eagerly diversifying away from hydro power.
Vaishnavi Gurung
Apart from the upcoming 300 MW project, do you see any other project for us?
Ashwin Devineni
Yes, we are setting up another 100 MW solar, right? We are also exploring other opportunities in terms of renewables.
Vaishnavi Gurung
Okay. Sir, one question is on the cash that we are receiving from Nava Global.
How do we plan to deploy that? I presume
Ashwin Devineni
you're talking about the buyback amount?
Vaishnavi Gurung
Yes, the buyback and dividends.
Ashwin Devineni
Yeah. Like we always stated, our primary objective is to ensure that we have enough cash to fund future projects, may it be greenfields or expansions.
Then apart from that, we always look at corporate actions, and we've been fairly generous in this past year with regards to corporate actions, which always boosts shareholder confidence.
Vaishnavi Gurung
Sir. Noted.
Sir, one question is on the avocado and agriculture fund. How do we plan to scale this segment, and how much further do we plan to invest here?
Ashwin Devineni
I think on the avocados, see, we have four divisions split into 275 ha each. Right now as we speak, two divisions have already been planted, and the first division has given us the first pilot crop of about 140 metric tons.
I think going forward, we're looking at about a time horizon of 8 years until the full production from all four divisions hits the markets.
Vaishnavi Gurung
For this segment to grow significantly and contribute to the revenue, how much time frame would we expect?
Ashwin Devineni
Down the line, 4 to 5 years to be a significant segment.
Vaishnavi Gurung
Sir. I'll join back the queue.
Ashwin Devineni
Sorry, are you there?
Vaishnavi Gurung
Sir. Noted.
I'll join back the queue for further questions.
Ashwin Devineni
Yeah.
Operator
Thank you. The next question comes from the line of Shri Gopal Kankani from SG Kankani & Associates.
Please go ahead.
Gopal Kankani
Good afternoon, sir. I have seen the presentation where you have mentioned this H1 of next financial year completion target for solar power plant and H2 for thermal power plant.
I wanted to know that what is the expected completion time for sugar complex?
Ashwin Devineni
The sugar complex or the processing unit should be complete by April, around April 2028. I'd say mid-2028.
Gopal Kankani
Okay. My second question is that what is the area of that Nacharam land, sir, and what is the present market value approximately?
Ashwin Devineni
Approximately about ₹20 crore is the per acre market value there.
Gopal Kankani
₹20 crore per acre?
Ashwin Devineni
What's the total acreage? How many acres?
Gopal Kankani
65 acres. Pardon?
65 acres. 65 acres is the total area of the land, man.
Okay.
Ashwin Devineni
Yes, yes.
Gopal Kankani
What is the present market value approximately?
Ashwin Devineni
What we know is the fact that the area is garnering a lot of interest, and the market value, say from 10 years ago, has definitely been on the upswing. To give you a precise number at this juncture, we will not be able to, but we know it's on the inclining trend.
Gopal Kankani
Okay. Okay.
Thank you, sir.
Operator
Thank you. The next question comes from the line of Jatin Damania from Swan Investments.
Please go ahead.
Jatin Damania
Good evening, sir, and thank you for the opportunity. Sir, just wanted to understand the total capex that we'll be spending in the Zambia for the thermal and solar.
Can you help us on the separate amount, how much are we spending on thermal and solar?
Ashwin Devineni
Sorry, your voice is being muffled. Can you speak a little away from the phone or so?
We can't hear you clearly.
Jatin Damania
Now it's audible?
Ashwin Devineni
It's better, better.
Jatin Damania
Yeah. Just wanted to understand the capex that we will be spending for the 300 MW and 100 MW separately in Zambia.
Ashwin Devineni
300 MW expansion thermal plant, total capital outlay is $400 million. For the 100 MW solar plant, capex outlay is $90 million.
Jatin Damania
Out of this, how much we have already spent?
Ashwin Devineni
As on 31st December, for the thermal plant, total spent is around close to $190 million. For solar plant, spent close to $10 million.
This includes both debt and equity, huh? This is not just equity.
This is debt and equity.
Jatin Damania
This debt equity is in ratio of 70:30, right?
Ashwin Devineni
Correct.
Jatin Damania
The entire capex is funded by Nava or even the Zambian government is contributing to the project?
Ashwin Devineni
It's 65:35. On the equity side, we contribute 65%, and ZCCM-IH, our partner, contributes 35%.
Jatin Damania
Okay. The partner contributes 35%.
Sure, sir. Definitely, that gives a good visibility in terms of the power project coming from the Zambia.
When you come to the domestic market, the scenario looks little bit lower in terms of the pricing as well as demand. How do you see the domestic power segment growth going ahead?
Ashwin Devineni
I think, as you rightly pointed out, the domestic power scene seems to be on the declining trend. If you look at the exchange pricing itself, I think there's been a drop of about 12% year-on-year.
I think the way we are looking at mitigating this downturn is through mainly entering into long-term and short-term contracts rather than being completely dependent on the exchange, where there's a lot of volatility. I think in this regard, we have informed you last quarter that we have engaged into a long-term, 5-year period bilateral contract with Tamil Nadu for our 60 MW IPP plant in Odisha.
Besides that, we're also looking at targeting a similar allocation for the other units that we have domestically.
Jatin Damania
At what rate that we have entered into a contract? In PPA, price you can help?
Ashwin Devineni
This is at 5.2 per kilowatt-hour. Long-term Tamil Nadu contract.
Jatin Damania
Sure. Last question, other than the power business, what's your take on the ferro, because the segment is consistently underperforming?
I understand the market is not good. Now given the recent safeguard duty on the steel and we have seen some uptick in the prices on the ferro front, how do you look this segment growth in the coming quarters or probably for FY27?
Ashwin Devineni
I think, see, even if you compare the last quarter with this quarter that we're in, there's been an improvement of prices by about 8%, right? I think this has a lot to do with the capital allocation that the government has put upon in terms of infrastructure and so on.
Going forward, we're hopeful that prices, if they don't increase to a very large extent, at least they're going to remain stable. While we don't look at it as a very high-margin vertical, but we are confident that, in terms of the scale, there will always be a good top line in ferroalloy.
Jatin Damania
Sir, but I'm looking from the operating performance. See, as you indicated that quarter-on-quarter the prices have increased, but when you look at the segmental results, there's a sharp drop in the profitability on the ferro segment.
I'm just unable to digest this, because from 2 crores of EBIT, we are almost at breakeven on the ferro front.
Ashwin Devineni
No, I think what I mentioned was from quarter three to the quarter that we are in currently, quarter four, there's been an increase.
Jatin Damania
Okay. Noted.
Thank you. That's all from my side, and all the best.
Operator
Thank you. The next question comes from the line of Kaushik Doshi from ICICI Securities.
Please go ahead.
Kaushik Doshi
Yeah. Thank you, sir, for the opportunity.
My next question is, what is the amount of debt at the end of 9-month FY26?
Ashwin Devineni
Close to $200 million.
Kaushik Doshi
Okay. Got it.
Sir, my next question is, do we have any tie-up of power for this summer for Indian power plant?
Ashwin Devineni
I think in terms of quarter four, we are more or less fully committed.
Kaushik Doshi
Sir. Thank you.
That's it from my side.
Operator
Thank you. The next question comes from the line of Jainam from ICICI Securities.
Please go ahead.
Jainam Jain
Thank you for the opportunity. My first question is for the 300 MW MEL Phase 2 and 100 MW solar project.
Can you share the expected capex, funding mix, and steady-state EBITDA and RoCE?
Ashwin Devineni
I think we've just answered that with regards to both the plants just a couple of minutes ago. In terms of the capex.
Please go through the transcript.
Jainam Jain
Yeah. Sir.
Sir, how much is the outstanding receivables from Maamba?
Ashwin Devineni
The arrears amount that is yet to be paid is about $30.5 million.
Jainam Jain
Sir. That answers my question.
Thank you so much.
Operator
Thank you. The next question comes from the line of Shailesh Raja from BNK Securities.
Please go ahead.
Shailesh Raja
Yeah. Sir, could you please update us on the Ivory Coast, and also can you give us the payback period that you are expecting from this solar project, the $90 million USD that we are doing?
Ashwin Devineni
Yeah. In terms of Ivory Coast, as you're aware, we are currently under exploration for the about 350 sq km concession that we were awarded.
I don't have much to share in terms of the discovery yet. I think that's still underway, when we do have something, I'll get back to you.
Shailesh Raja
Sir. What about the solar investment?
We are investing $90 million USD. What about the payback period that you're expecting from this solar project?
Ashwin Devineni
It's 10 to 12 years.
Shailesh Raja
Yeah. Okay.
Okay. Okay.
Okay. Sir, currently in Zambia, what is the mix, sir, between thermal and solar?
How is the mix changing? Thermal and solar, overall Zambia, how is the mix?
Ashwin Devineni
Right now we are the only thermal. Yes, yeah.
Initially, Zambia was almost 95% hydro, and we came into the picture with thermal. Now there are quite a few solar plants that are coming up, but they're all without storage.
Possibly the only other baseload apart from the thermal, the hydros. I think there's a fair bit of solar coming up, and there's also talk of some other thermal projects coming up.
I think solar is gaining more traction.
Shailesh Raja
Okay. Okay.
Sir. Thank you.
Operator
Thank you. The next question comes from the line of Shruti Agrawal from CIAL.
Please go ahead.
Shruti Agrawal
Hi, am I audible?
Operator
Yes, ma'am.
Shruti Agrawal
Yeah. Could you comment on the increase in employee cost from ₹191 crore to ₹268 crore?
Ma'am,
Ashwin Devineni
please tell me which period you are referring to.
Shruti Agrawal
9 months comparison. Consolidated.
Consolidated exam.
Ashwin Devineni
One moment, please. Yeah.
It is on account of commission. The provision was made in the last quarter, on 9 months period, it is more compared to the previous 9 months period in 2024.
Shruti Agrawal
Sir. Another question is Nava Global has bought back $50 million of shares.
Is there any future plan to make it a wholly owned subsidiary?
Ashwin Devineni
It is a wholly owned subsidiary. It was a buyback.
The share capital reduced, it is still a wholly owned subsidiary of Nava. Nava owns 100% of Nava Global.
Then
Shruti Agrawal
what is the reason for buyback?
Ashwin Devineni
Nava was the single shareholder, and hence, after buyback still it holds the 100%. Nava Global bought back the shares, Nava still remains the 100% owner.
Shruti Agrawal
Sir. Thank you.
Operator
Thank you. The next question comes from the line of Vaishnavi Gurung from Craving Alpha Wealth Fund.
Please go ahead.
Vaishnavi Gurung
Hi. Thank you for taking my question again.
Sir, first is with respect to commissioning of the power plant and thermal power plant in 2026, if I'm not wrong. What kind of revenues are you expecting from these two power plants?
If you can give us a broad guidance around in FY25 or '29?
Operator
Hello, sir?
Ashwin Devineni
On the 300 MW thermal power plant, in case of full-year operations, expected revenue is $180 to $200 million. From the 100 MW solar project, in case of full-year operations, expected revenue is $15 to $16 million.
Vaishnavi Gurung
Sir, could you please repeat again for the solar plant?
Ashwin Devineni
It is $15 to $16 million per annum.
Vaishnavi Gurung
By when do we expect the full operation of these two power plants?
Ashwin Devineni
It will be financial year 2027-28. '28.
Vaishnavi Gurung
Okay. Sir, just last question from my end.
Do we have any planned shutdown for this FY26 and FY27?
Ashwin Devineni
Definitely. All the plants undergo shutdown and maintenance every year, there are going to be plant shutdowns for all our units during the year.
Vaishnavi Gurung
Anything major?
Ashwin Devineni
No, nothing major.
Vaishnavi Gurung
Sir. Thank you.
Operator
Thank you. A reminder to all participants.
Anyone who wishes to ask a question may press star and one on your touch-tone telephone. The next question comes from the line of Shri Gopal Kankani from SG Kankani & Associates.
Please go ahead.
Gopal Kankani
Thank you, sir, for giving me again opportunity. I just wanted to know that we have recently learned from newspapers that MOIL has increased the prices of manganese ore by 5% from 1st February.
Do we have sufficient stock of manganese ore, or this is going to adversely affect our profitability for production of silico manganese?
Ashwin Devineni
No, our exposure to MOIL is extremely limited. In fact, we don't buy any lumps from them.
We only buy a very small amount of fines. This should not have much of an impact.
Gopal Kankani
Okay. Then, sir, from where our manganese ore requirement is being met out?
Ashwin Devineni
From various sources, mostly outside of India.
Gopal Kankani
Okay. Okay.
Thank you, sir.
Operator
Thank you. A reminder to all participants.
Anyone who wishes to ask a question may press star and one on your touch-tone telephone. Ladies and gentlemen, anyone who wishes to ask a question may press star and one on your touch-tone telephone.
The next question comes from the line of Nidhi Shah from ICICI Securities. Please go ahead.
Nidhi Shah
Yes. Thank you so much for taking my question.
Sir, could you give us some broad-based idea on capex for FY27 and FY28, where are we looking to spend the capex, and of the capex that we are doing, what kind of revenues we can expect in the next coming years?
Ashwin Devineni
That's a fairly broad question. In terms of the current year with regards to the capex commitments, it's all based on the ongoing projects, namely, I think the Phase 2 300 MW thermal.
You have Phase 1 of solar, which is 100 MW committed, with the potential of another phase that may get committed later based on market dynamics. Then on the agri side, as we broadly spoke about, the avocado, where it's a $55 million commitment, and the sugar project, the Kawambwa Sugar Limited, which is a $100 million commitment.
Nidhi Shah
We are expecting all this capex to kind of be undertaken till in the year of till FY27 end, right? Do we have anything in mind for FY28?
Do we have anything on mind?
Ashwin Devineni
Yes, we do have projects in the pipeline that we are thinking about. It's too early for us to commit or discuss those projects.
As we progress, as we have projects that we are developing, we also are constantly evaluating new projects that we can take up.
Nidhi Shah
All right. Lastly, on the capex front, what was the capex that was undertaken in the 9 months of this year?
Ashwin Devineni
Phase 2 thermal power plant, the capex incurred is between $90 to $100 million, and towards the 100 MW solar power plant, capex incurred is $10 million. When it comes to avocado plantation, the capex incurred is around $8 million.
For the Kawambwa sugar plant, the capex incurred is $8 million.
Nidhi Shah
All right. My last question would be that for the Indian power plants, do we have a tie-up for power this summer?
Ashwin Devineni
Yes. I think, like I mentioned earlier, for quarter four, we are more or less fully committed.
I think for the Q1 of FY27 too, we are in the process of tying up most of our surplus quantities.
Nidhi Shah
All right. Thank you so much.
Operator
Thank you. A reminder to all participants.
Anyone who wishes to ask a question may press star and one on your touch-tone telephone. The next question comes from the line of Shruti Agrawal from CIAL.
Please go ahead. Ms.
Agarwal, you may proceed with your question.
Shruti Agrawal
Hello, yeah. I wanted to check on what is the status of mines in Africa?
Ashwin Devineni
Lithium or
Shruti Agrawal
manganese? Sir, it's about the lithium, manganese mines.
Ashwin Devineni
Yeah. In terms of the lithium mines, we're still in the exploration stage.
That's currently underway. These processes take a little while, and they involve various steps.
That's currently underway. We're still in the exploration stage.
Shruti Agrawal
Sir. Thank you.
Operator
Thank you. As there are no further questions from the participants, I now hand the conference over to the management for closing comments.
Thank you, and over to you, sir.
Ashwin Devineni
Thank you once again for joining us today. I hope we have answered all your questions.
We appreciate all your continued interest and support, and as we move ahead, we remain focused on delivering sustainable, long-term value for all stakeholders. Thank you, and have a nice day.
Operator
Thank you. On behalf of ICICI Securities, that concludes this conference.
Thank you for joining us, and you may now disconnect your line. Thank you.
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