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Nehal Shah from the Investor Relations team at TCS. Thank you, and over to you.
Nehal Shah
Thank you, operator. Good evening and welcome, everyone.
Thank you for joining us today to discuss TCS's financial results for the second quarter of FY2027 that ended on September 30th, 2026. This call is being webcast through our website, and an archive, including the transcript, will be available on the site for the duration of this quarter.
The financial statements, quarterly fact sheet, and press releases are also available on our website. Our leadership team is present on this call to discuss our results.
We have with us today Mr. K.
Krithivasan, Chief Executive Officer and Managing Director.
K. Krithivasan
Hi, everyone.
Nehal Shah
Ms. Aarthi Subramanian, Executive Director, President, and Chief Operating Officer.
Aarthi Subramanian
Good evening, everyone.
Nehal Shah
Mr. Samir Seksaria, Chief Financial Officer.
Samir Seksaria
Hello, everyone.
Nehal Shah
Mr. Sudeep Kunnumal, Chief HR Officer.
Sudeep Kunnumal
Hello, everyone.
Nehal Shah
Our management team will give a brief overview of the company's performance, followed by a Q&A session. As you are aware, we don't provide any specific revenue or earnings guidance, and anything said on this call which reflects our outlook for the future or which could be construed as a forward-looking statement must be reviewed in conjunction with the risk that the company faces.
We have outlined this risk in the second slide of the quarterly fact sheet available on our website and emailed out to those who have subscribed to our mailing list. With that, I would like to turn the call over to Krithi.
K. Krithivasan
Thank you, Nehal. Good day, everyone, and thank you for joining us.
I would like to begin by calling out the key takeaways from our Quarter 2 FY27 performance. First, we sustained our growth momentum this quarter despite the environment that remains selective and uneven.
Revenue for the quarter was ₹73,188 crores. In constant currency, revenue grew 0.5% sequentially and 2.8% year-on-year.
International revenue grew 1.2% sequentially in constant currency. All international markets grew sequentially, led by the United Kingdom at 3.5%, followed by North America and Continental Europe at 0.4% each.
Second, growth has broadened across our core portfolio. BFSI grew 2.5% sequentially in constant currency, while manufacturing and technology services each grew 3.1%.
Consumer Business and Energy, Resources, and Utilities showed an improvement compared to the previous quarter. India revenue grew 6% and regional markets grew 3.6% year-on-year.
Third, our order book remained healthy. TCV for the quarter was at US$9.6 billion.
This excludes the Porsche and Best Buy deals. The quality of the wins demonstrates our continued relevance in large, complex, and strategically important transformation programs.
Fourth, AI continues to scale as a structural growth opportunity. Annualized AI revenue reached US$3.1 billion and crossed 10% of our overall revenue.
Finally, we advanced our strategy through AI-led deals, ecosystem partnerships, and targeted acquisitions. Our partnership with Porsche and the proposed acquisition of MHP, which is subject to regulatory approvals, strengthen our position in AI-powered mobility and engineering.
The Best Buy GCC engagement highlights our ability to help clients build and transform AI-native global capability centers. We also launched TCS ADD Agent Hub for drug discovery, domain-specific agentic control planes, and new physical AI capabilities, including autonomous engineering lab powered by NVIDIA in Bengaluru and an AI-first lights-out factory lab in Pune.
The demand environment has not materially changed since last quarter, and discretionary programs without near-term value remain under scrutiny. Against this backdrop, our primary opportunity and focus are on translating the advances in AI into measurable enterprise advantage for our clients.
I'll now invite Samir, Aarthi, and Sudeep to go over our different aspects of our performance during the quarter. I'll step in later and provide more color on the demand trends we are seeing.
Over to you, Samir.
Samir Seksaria
Thank you, Krithi. Good day, everyone.
Our quarterly revenue was ₹73,188 crores, a growth of 1.3% sequentially and 11.2% on a year-on-year basis. In dollar terms, revenue was US$7,642 million, a growth of 20 basis points sequentially and 2.4% year-on-year.
In constant currency terms, our growth was 50 basis points Q-o-Q and 2.8% Y-o-Y. Our operating margins remained stable sequentially at 24%.
Consistent with our philosophy to drive long-term profitable growth, we continue to prioritize investments for growth. In Q2, we made investments in strategic partnerships, M&A-related initiatives, and hiring of niche talent.
As we build future capacity and navigate demand transitions, we have invested in a higher bench and increased hiring of subcontractors to meet near-term skills and delivery requirements. This quarter, we were able to mitigate this headwinds partly by currency gains and operating leverage.
Many of these investments are strategic in nature and are focused on long-term value creation. Our disciplined approach to margin management remains unchanged.
As growth improves, we expect to benefit from enhanced scaler efficiency while continuing to optimize our cost structures, align capacity with demand, and maintain our disciplined execution. While we are prioritizing investments, we are focusing on five key areas.
First, we continue to strengthen our portfolio through targeted capability acquisitions. Second, we are adding a stronger partnership ecosystem with frontier AI companies, hyperscalers, semiconductor ecosystem, Tier 1 industrial suppliers, and enterprise software providers.
Third, we are accelerating investments in our high-growth service areas. We are making investments in sales, solutioning, service transformation, new offerings, and business model across the five big bets we have called out, with a specific focus on AI and data.
Fourth, we are investing in talent and capability creation at scale, on learning and development as well as on hiring niche talent. Lastly, we are creating new growth engines for the future.
We are expanding into adjacencies such as data center services, increasing our offerings for GCCs and the mid-market segments, strengthening our presence in areas such as ServiceNow, public services, and sovereign cloud. Our priority remains clear: convert investments into sustainable growth while preserving the discipline that has consistently underpinned our profitability.
Our net margins for the quarter was 19%. DSO stood at 74 days, constant sequentially in dollar terms.
Our cash conversion remains strong at 102.2% of net income, and invested funds at the end of the period stood at $5.98 billion. Our capital allocation policy remains unchanged, and we remain committed to returning substantial free cash flows to our shareholders while judiciously investing to support our long-term growth aspirations.
I'll now hand it over to Aarthi.
Aarthi Subramanian
Thank you, Samir. Good evening, everyone.
The biggest opportunity in front of us is in helping clients translate advancements in AI into business outcomes. Clients see TCS as a partner who can use AI to enable growth, speed, efficiency.
They're keen to invest the productivity benefits from AI into enterprise transformation initiatives that will make their organization future-ready. TCS is benefiting from this shift, as evidenced by our growing AI revenues that crossed $3 billion on an annualized basis this quarter.
Our priority is clear: use AI to create measurable value for our customers and to improve how we deliver work for them. This quarter, we made progress on both fronts, with growth in our AI business and wider adoption of our human-plus-AI services delivery model.
We are seeing three distinct demand patterns: AI-native solutions with business outcomes, AI-led transformation of enterprise systems, and autonomous GBS. Enterprises are also prioritizing investments in modernizing legacy data estates and building AI-ready data foundations.
Across these demand partners, strong AI governance with secure AI platforms is becoming a top need for enterprises. Let me share an example of how we're building AI-native solutions with assured business outcomes.
For a global industrial manufacturer, we're using an AI-native approach to solve a critical business need: compressing lead-to-quote time from 4.7 days to under an hour. We achieved this within a quarter, clearly demonstrating speed to value.
The next step is to improve their lead-to-conversion metrics. This is a good example of focused problem-solving and business outcome realization with AI.
Now, let me share how AI is changing the approach to transforming enterprise systems. AI is playing a key role in process mining, which helps us understand existing workflows.
Redesigning processes with a human-and-AI approach by default is enabling upfront identification of agentic opportunities. The acceleration of implementations with AI is real.
In a large, complex S/4HANA enterprise transformation spanning 27 sites, more than 70 legal entities, we are using AI to redesign processes and accelerate implementation. Our approach, supported by TCS Agentic Platform, targets 25% to 30% faster implementation.
Last quarter, I spoke about autonomous GBS and how agentic AI in business process execution is scaling significantly. Business ops teams are now embarking on agentic transformation across finance, HR, procurement, and customer service.
This is opening new opportunities for us to engage with business teams and create new value propositions. For a North American energy resources company, we are transforming their global HR operations to double operational efficiency and increase self-serve adoption from less than 10% to 30%.
Beyond AI, cybersecurity is another area enterprises are prioritizing globally. While enterprises continue to strengthen cyber controls, the focus on cyber resilience and recovery is rising.
Frontier models are also changing how enterprises manage vulnerabilities, enabling discovery, prioritization, and validation. For a European bank, we are reimagining enterprise security through an integrated, AI-powered operating model.
Recent AI-related cybersecurity incidents are a reminder that AI needs the same rigorous engineering and operational discipline as any enterprise technology. Strong governance and clear guardrails must therefore be built into every enterprise AI deployment.
As agents scale, enterprises will need more robust orchestration, access controls, security, observability, cost controls, and policy enforcement. Cost discipline matters just as much.
We help clients manage AI token costs through benchmarking, model and architecture selection, token economics, and FinOps advisory. Our focus is to deliver the right level of intelligence at the right cost.
This creates a significant and growing opportunity for TCS across AI governance services and platforms. We recently won an engagement with a major global insurer to build an enterprise AI agentic platform and a common agentic control tower for managing both in-house and third-party agents.
Our engineering depth and working demonstrations helped create differentiation. We are also working more closely with business teams to turn their priorities into realized benefits.
In one engagement where TCS was not the incumbent, our team identified pain points and built working demonstrations during a three-day customer workshop, which helped us secure the deal. 21 forward deployment engineers are now working directly with business on executions.
Over the last 12 months, we have made good progress in deploying our human-plus-AI service autonomy model across client engagements. For agentic AMS, TCS has earned top rankings from customers, underscoring the strength of our differentiated capabilities delivered at scale.
Our investments in Salesforce are delivering results. By combining the strengths of Coastal Cloud, LiftEngine, and our own Salesforce practice, we are driving significant growth.
Recently, leading analysts have recognized this progress, ranking TCS as the number 1 Salesforce services partner. Looking ahead, we'll continue to engage customers across their business and technology transformation agendas, leveraging our capabilities, context, and industry platform solutions to create distinctive value propositions.
These are early days, being progressive and proactive with our ideas and solutions is essential, and we are doing this the way we know best: with a customer-centric approach. Thank you, and now hand it over to Sudeep.
Sudeep Kunnumal
Thank you, Aarthi. Hello, everyone.
This quarter, we continue to invest in future-ready talent, onboarding top talents globally, taking our workforce to 598,056 associates. Our hiring strategy continues to balance experienced talent, early-career talent, and internal mobility.
As clients' demand evolves, we remain focused on strengthening AI and domain expertise, improving deployment readiness, and reinvesting in continuous learning. Over the past year, we have significantly expanded our technology and AI capabilities through large-scale learning and reskilling initiatives.
Our learning hours saw a 17% Q-on-Q increase to 17.1 million hours. LTM attrition in IT services reduced by 30 basis points sequentially to 13.3 percentage.
This ability to combine workforce stability with continuous, at-scale learning remains a key differentiator for TCS. We remain committed to building a future-ready workforce and a workplace where associates can learn, contribute, and grow.
Thank you. Now I'll hand it over back to Krithi.
K. Krithivasan
Thank you, Sudeep. Let me now provide some additional color on industry trends before concluding our prepared remarks.
BFSI was our strongest large vertical and the largest contributor to growth, with 2.5% sequential and 3.9% year-on-year growth in constant currency. Growth was broad-based across banking, capital markets, and insurance, with strong momentum in the UK, Europe, and Asia-Pacific.
Clients continue to invest in AI, risk and regulatory modernization, cyber resilience, data platforms, and operational efficiency. Manufacturing grew 3.1% sequentially and 4.2% year-on-year.
Demand is improving around factory automation, engineering productivity, product lifecycle modernization, supply chain resilience, predictive maintenance, and industrial AI. Our investments in AI-led vehicle engineering, smart manufacturing, and physical AI are helping us participate in larger and more strategic programs.
Technology and services grew 3.1% sequentially and 4.8% year-on-year. Growth was driven by enterprise software, technology products, engineering, cloud modernization, and digital transformation.
At the same time, traditional application and infrastructure portfolios are seeing an increase in agentic AI adoption. We are leading with AI-first software engineering, autonomous operations, platform simplification, and AI-ready data foundations.
Consumer business declined by 0.7% sequentially and 1% year-on-year. Retail and consumer products remain sensitive to inflation, energy cost, and selective consumer spending.
Travel, transportation, and hospitality demand remained resilient, but discretionary spending is affected by cost pressure and increased insourcing. We continue to see opportunities in operational efficiency, supply chain visibility, customer experience, pricing, cloud, data, and AI-led modernization.
Life sciences and healthcare grew 0.3% sequentially, with stable demand supported by long-term priorities in compliance, clinical and research platforms, data modernization, AI-enabled drug discovery, patient engagement, revenue cycle modernization, and cybersecurity. Communications and media was broadly flat, with growth in media, publishing, and digital platforms offset by continued pressure in the telecom vertical.
Energy, Resources, and Utilities declined 0.5% sequentially, although investments in grid modernization, resilience, cybersecurity, asset optimization, and AI-enabled operations remain relevant. International revenue grew sequentially, performance improved across most industry groups, and growth broadened across the core portfolio.
Our TCV was at $9.6 billion, our win rates improved, and annualized AI revenue reached $3.1 billion US dollars. We believe clients are moving toward a new phase of enterprise AI adoption.
Opportunity is shifting from isolated use cases to redesigned value chains, governed agentic systems, AI-ready infrastructure, and human-plus-AI operating models. Our infrastructure-to-intelligence strategy, contextual knowledge, delivery capabilities, platforms, and ecosystem partnerships position us well for this transition.
We will continue to execute with discipline, invest in differentiated capabilities, and help our clients achieve measurable outcomes in growth, productivity, and resilience. These priorities support our aspiration to become the world's leading AI-led technology services company and create sustainable value for our clients, employees, and shareholders.
With this, we'll now open the line for questions.
Operator
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Ladies and gentlemen, we will wait for a moment while the question queue assembles. We will take our first question from the line of Sudheer Guntupalli with Kotak Mahindra Asset Management.
Please go ahead.
Sudheer Guntupalli
Hi, Krithi. Thanks for the opportunity.
My first question: your core markets growth accelerated quite nicely in this quarter. Do you think the momentum in this part, in the international business, to continue in the coming quarters as well?
K. Krithivasan
Sudheer, definitely. See, looking at all the parameters, I don't want to comment on immediate next quarter basis, but on a medium-term basis, looking at the TCV, looking at the pipeline, and the client conversations that we are having, we are confident the growth momentum will continue.
Sudheer Guntupalli
Sure, sir. Both BFSI and high-tech verticals are reflecting a typical September quarter kind of seasonal strength this time.
Given these two verticals are also the ones which are early adopters of technology, is it fair to sort of assume or conclude that AI deflation impact, at least in these two verticals, is now more than offset by incrementality of AI opportunity?
K. Krithivasan
I don't want to say it is complete, but again, Sudheer, on one hand, there is a deflation because of the productivity benefit. Also, these industries use AI for modernization, and it also creates vendor consolidation opportunities.
For instance, if you take BFSI, BFSI is where our AI revenues, percentage also, grew very fast. There are a number of things that are happening in these industries.
I don't want to conclude by saying that the deflation part is complete, but I think there are a number of opportunities in these industries we are working on which gives us the confidence that the growth can continue.
Sudheer Guntupalli
Sir. One last question to Samir.
On the subcon increase this quarter, Samir, should we see this as a proxy for visa cost, given that we would not have applied for a lot of visas, given the sharp jump in visa fee last year? Yes.
Samir Seksaria
See, in the overall increase in subcon, it has been across in India as well as overseas. It is more to meet near-term demand-supply skill mismatches.
Some part of it could be linked to that also, but not completely.
Sudheer Guntupalli
Thanks, sir. All the very best.
Operator
Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Ravi Menon with Axis Capital.
Please go ahead.
Ravi Menon
Hi. Thanks for the opportunity.
Congrats on a pretty good performance across multiple verticals this quarter. We've seen the India revenue decline by about 10%, and also seen a slight decline in the $100 million clients as well this quarter and $50 million clients as well.
Are both these client metrics decline and India revenue correlated? What caused this revenue decline in India?
K. Krithivasan
See, Ravi, as we always been calling out, the regional market, while we say regional market, it's a bunch of quite a few volatile segments. In India, we had a project deferral, which caused this revenue decrease.
Otherwise, there's no structural issue, and we're hoping to deliver these projects in subsequent quarters, once the projects are reinstated. We don't see any major concern there.
On the client metric, we had, I think, two—essentially, it is only one specific drop; the second is coming because of the currency exchange thing. The account which was in a borderline because of the exchange currency movement dropped below the $100 million, there is no structural issue there.
Ravi Menon
Great. Thanks so much for that.
Can we think about this $3 billion AI revenues as similar to what we've seen for digital? When we saw that digital portfolio reached a certain level, and that was growing much faster in the overall portfolio, you saw that inflection point for growth.
With AI revenues now hitting 10%, can we say that from here growth has troughed out if you look at, say, on a last two, three years basis compared to looking at the next two, three years? Would you say that you're more optimistic that growth would be faster in the next two, three years compared to the last two, three years?
Aarthi Subramanian
Ravi, this is Aarthi here. Like you said, I think we did quite well on AI revenues this quarter.
When we look at our revenues, we look at traditional revenues, new services revenues, and AI revenues. Our new services revenues did well as well, whether you look what Krithi alluded to AI-led tech modernization, enterprise core transformation, whether it's on the ERP side or on the industrial side in manufacturing and pharma sectors, BPS, cybersecurity, all of them did well.
Obviously, I think the AI growth rates came out rather nicely. On the traditional services also, vendor consolidation and AI-powered software engineering, IT ops, right, how we innovate in execution is helping us differentiate and grow market share in traditional services also, in a space where AI is definitely creating efficiency and productivity.
There are tailwinds on the back of vendor consolidation in those traditional areas as well.
Ravi Menon
Thank you so much for the detailed explanation. One last question to Samir.
To get back towards 26%, which is the aspirational margin, do you think that we'll be able to bring down subcontracting costs over time, or what are the key levers that could take you towards 26%?
Samir Seksaria
Overall, a long-term aspiration remains unchanged to continue to 26% to 28%. While in the near term, as we have been talking about, we will continue to prioritize investments for growth.
Right? Looking ahead, your question in terms of what are our levers available, subcon, given the rate at which has increased, definitely is one of the levers.
Also, if you look at some of the investments will start to deliver results, that could be another part of it. We have been focused on our margin discipline as always, and the traditional levers, whether it is productivity, utilization, will also continue.
Some of our non-employee expenses also have been increasing. At various points of time, we have used these levers, and towards getting to 26%, as we do it, these would definitely play in a role.
Ravi Menon
Thank you so much. Best of luck.
Operator
Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Ruchi Makhija with ICICI Securities.
Please go ahead.
Ruchi Makhija
Thank you for the opportunity. I'll take stab at the AI question once again.
This quarter, we saw AI revenue grow by 19%, while the traditional or non-AI revenue declined. Should we interpret this as AI increasingly substituting the traditional services or we are seeing incremental client spending?
What need to happen for AI to become the overall revenue growth driver? See,
Aarthi Subramanian
definitely we see AI as a driver of new opportunities. I think, Ruchi, the way we see it, more and more AI is becoming pervasive in an organization and playing a role in every transformation a company embarks on.
Whether it's any enterprise transformation or business operations transformation or agentic transformation, which are new ways that we can solve problems for business, I think AI is playing a role across the board. Hmm.
Ruchi Makhija
Okay. Secondly, it's on margin.
This quarter, we saw a gross margin decline [unclear]—
Operator
Sorry to interrupt, Ruchi, but your line is not very clear. Request you to please repeat that question.
Ruchi Makhija
Yes. Is it better?
Operator
Yes.
Ruchi Makhija
Yes. Yes.
This quarter, we saw a gross margin decline sequentially despite this quarter we don't have any wage hike impact. Samir, could you quantify how much of this we see structural, meaning we are making active investments for AI, and how much of this is temporary?
Second part to this, given the ongoing investment, we also have Best Buy GCC coming in, MHP consolidation playing out in H2, in that context, how we think about the margin commitment we had made around exiting FY27 of 25% plus EBIT margin range?
Samir Seksaria
Sure. First on the gross margin part, as you can see, there's the increase which is in subcontractors, third-party expenses, directly reflects on the gross margin.
The other investments which I talked about are more SG&A-aligned investments. Right?
Like I mentioned earlier, we are prioritizing investments for growth. Like you mentioned, looking ahead in the second half, we anticipate a few headwinds: the acquisition-related dilution, particularly in MHP, is likely to impact by about 50 basis points, depending on the timing of closure and when the integration starts; the normal furloughs seasonality; and our continued ecosystems would be our headwinds.
Like to Ravi's question I mentioned, some of the Q2 headwinds will start to taper off or start giving outcomes, and at the same time we'll try to balance. While it's an uphill task, we'll continue to endeavor to inch up on our margins.
Ruchi Makhija
Thank you.
Operator
Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Nithin Padmanabhan with Investec.
Please go ahead.
Nithin Padmanabhan
Hi. Good evening.
Thanks for the opportunity. Wanted your thoughts on the regional markets, more specifically in the context of the BSNL deal.
Do you think that should sort of lend to some sort of support as we get into the second half? The second bit is in the context of we entering Q3, any thoughts you have from a furlough perspective in conversations with clients?
Third, from a margin perspective, I think we originally had this thought process that obviously Q1 we had the comp increases, and then as we go through the year, by the end of the year, at least from an exit perspective, we should be closer to 25. In terms of what has changed in that thought process from an investment perspective, and when do you think investments really peak out?
Would be great to have your thoughts on both these things as well. Thank you.
K. Krithivasan
Nithin, I'll answer the questions on BSNL and Q3; Samir can take up the question on margin. BSNL, like you said, it can provide a cushion for a couple of quarters.
The fact is regional markets will be volatile because we don't do that much of annuity-based work in the regional markets. Also, some of the programs we do here, the deliveries tend to be lumpy.
You will always see some volatility in regional markets. That's the reason we call the regional market separately out.
On Q3, so far from what we are seeing, the furlough will be very similar to the previous years. We don't see any major change.
Nithin Padmanabhan
Over to you, Samir.
Samir Seksaria
Nithin, on the margins, for the past few quarters, we have been talking about prioritizing the investments and focusing on growth at the same time maintaining the margin discipline. Yes, right now also we are saying we'd want to inch up, but the primary near-term focus has been on prioritizing the investments.
That's why we have called out what investments which we have making. No specific immediate timeline.
I have called out what are the next phase of investments in the coming few quarters. Will it peak out?
I would expect some of them to start delivering results, and growth being an important margin lever should help out per se.
Nithin Padmanabhan
Perfect. That's very helpful.
Thank you so much, and all the best.
Operator
Thank you. The next question is from the line of Vibhor Singhal with Nuvama Equities.
Please go ahead.
Vibhor Singhal
Hi. Thanks for taking my question.
Two questions from my side. First question, Krithi or Aarthi, if you can take either of you.
I think, Krithi, in the last conference call, we had mentioned, and many other companies have also mentioned, that with the advent of these LLM platforms, clients are now increasingly coming to us and asking us to build an application layer underneath which the LLMs kind of sit, so that provides these clients a flexibility to switch between the LLMs, helps them optimize the token costs, etc., etc. Have we seen that trend continue in this quarter as well?
Any new things that you might have picked up? Are the clients also kind of moving away from the Main Street LLMs to some sort of small language models, where our expertise becomes a very big deciding factor?
Any color on that would be really helpful.
K. Krithivasan
Vibhor, like what you said definitely is playing out. Last time also we laid out our infrastructure to intelligence, where it's made up of infrastructure layer, and there is a model and data layer, on top of that is a agent layer.
On the agent layer, we are building the agent control planes. On the model and data layer, we are building applicable model harness so that customers can use either SLM or LLM or open source, open weight model based on the need and criticality and what is the application.
That discussions continue. Particularly this quarter, we've seen strong success in the agent control plane.
I'll request Aarthi to provide more color on this one.
Aarthi Subramanian
Thank you, Krithi. Vibhor, absolutely yes.
I think as the enterprises are focused on safe, secure, and responsible deployment of agentic AI, they need a strong foundation to scale. Building the AI platform, and more so this year agentic control plane is becoming a key layer, not just in terms of governance, but in terms of cost management, really looking at agent performance, and the full end-to-end agent lifecycle.
Like Krithi said, this quarter we saw some very good wins where we're building agentic control planes for our customers.
Vibhor Singhal
Aarthi, if I can just delve a bit more on that, are there any specific pockets or, let's say, verticals, maybe banking or high-tech, some other verticals where we are seeing more of this at this point of time, and some other key segments maybe lagging behind a bit and yet to catch up?
Aarthi Subramanian
Sure. I think that's a great question, Vibhor.
What we're seeing is, first of all, when we look at the $3.1 billion annualized revenues, right, AI revenue is growing across every vertical. I think that's very positive.
Now, there are three verticals which are leading in terms of growth rate, and the top three verticals are BFSI, manufacturing, and life sciences, healthcare. In these three verticals, we are seeing the whole agentic control plane, AI governance—see, these are all evolving things, right?
While the technology is rapidly developing, then you see customers who are leading actually create proof points and create the playbook for enterprises to follow. I think those verticals are leading, but I would say that consumer, technology, energy, resources, utilities are also following pretty closely in terms of very active adoption of these trends.
Vibhor Singhal
Got it. Great.
Thanks a lot for that detailed answer. Just one last question for Samir on the margins part.
Samir, the margin trajectory that we are seeing at this point of time is majorly because of the higher subcontracting expenses and the investments that we are doing. There is no pricing pressure that we are seeing across any of the pockets.
Is that the right assumption?
Samir Seksaria
Broadly yes, and I'll give you some color. See, there would be
Vibhor Singhal
front-loading
Samir Seksaria
of productivity benefits that could happen, but at the same time, we are seeing better pricing on the AI revenues which we are generating. If you take the revenue per employee, you'd see there's a slight reduction, not a significant one.
At a overall portfolio level, the pricing is broadly stable.
Vibhor Singhal
Got it, Samir. Just to wrap it up, given that we are at 24% at this point of time, you mentioned around 50 basis point headwind from the MHP deal, at some point of time the BSNL project would also come in.
Do we have a target in mind that we are looking in terms of, I know probably it was asked before, in terms of exit rate for this year, will we be able to get closer to 25% or that looks difficult from the vantage point that we are at this point of time?
Samir Seksaria
As I mentioned, we'd look towards inching up from where we are and prioritize
Vibhor Singhal
investments. Sure.
Great. Thank you so much for taking my questions, and wish you all the best.
Operator
Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Sandeep Shah with Equirus Securities.
Please go ahead.
Sandeep Shah
Thanks for the opportunity. The first question is one of your large peers who gave the guidance for the next year, this time they clearly notified that the growth in consulting and managed services would be almost similar, and this could be because of clients now spending beyond AI infra into AI-led services.
Is your client conversation actually implying that? Once the macro-led issue subside, this could be a trigger which one can expect in the next calendar year?
K. Krithivasan
Sandeep, when Aarthi spoke also, she outlined few types of projects that we are doing in AI, right, where with AI-native solutions with business outcome, AI-led transformation of enterprise systems, autonomous GBS, and AI coming up in technology modernization, modernizing data estate. All these are actually at this time we see increasing in volume, increasing recurrent frequency.
Definitely clients are moving, while they're continuing to invest and explore, I would say, opportunity on optimizing the token cost, but there's a greater interest in leveraging AI for a business outcome and technology modernization, and we believe that will continue.
Sandeep Shah
Okay. Just next question for the CFO, Samir, sir.
On an organic basis, is it fair to assume that the guidance still intact for reaching 25% by 4Q if I exclude the 50 bps kind of adverse impact from MHP consolidation?
Samir Seksaria
See, there would be pluses and minuses. No point looking at only organic on the margin part, right?
There would be macro factors impacting seasonality, I would say on an overall basis, we will balance our investment priorities and our disciplined execution, and we will work towards working higher from here. Right now, the near-term priorities on investment continue.
Sandeep Shah
Okay. Samir, just a related question.
If I look at absolute employee cost, there has been absolute decline of 0.6% Q-on-Q despite increasing base in employee this quarter as well as last quarter. Is it the lower variable pay or incremental offshoring are the factors?
You believe incremental offshoring in a AI world could continue as a going forward method of delivery?
Samir Seksaria
See, Sandeep, as you rightly called out, the employee expenses will reflect a combined effect of cost mix, location mix, skill composition, hiring patterns, etc. Having said that, given our performance against internal targets, we have had a lower outlay of performance-linked bonus this time.
Sandeep Shah
Okay. Thank you, and all the best.
Operator
Thank you. The next question is from the line of Gaurav Rateria with Morgan Stanley.
Please go ahead.
Gaurav Rateria
Hi. Thank you for taking my question.
I have a couple of questions. My first question is on your AI revenues.
Is that accretive to the gross margins at the company level? If not, what will change over time?
Is it more on the revenue productivity side or the cost side that will drive margin accretion from the new business? The second question is on the comment, Samir, that you made on the capacity creation on the bench side on the investment that you are making.
Is it to reflect the improving demand or broad-basing of the demand in the coming quarters, or is it again the issue of supply-demand mismatch that is leading to the bench creation that you spoke about? The last question is on your data center business.
At what point in time we can see some capacity getting operational and start contributing to the revenues? Thank you.
Samir Seksaria
Sure. I'll take all three of them, Gaurav.
On the first one, the $3.1 billion AI revenues which we have are coming in at a much higher margin than our company average. On the data center business, as we have consistently called out, we will plan our expansion or the capacity creation on the data centers while the initial plans and layout are in place once the contract comes in, and it will take about 18 to 24 months before the revenue starts kicking in.
On the capacity creation, Gaurav, if you can repeat it again, sorry?
Gaurav Rateria
The question is on your comment that you made that created more bench capacity this quarter. Was it to reflect the improving and broad-basing of demand that you're seeing in coming quarters, or was it led by more supply-demand mismatch that you talked about?
Samir Seksaria
I think if you look at some of the new-age skills which we are hiring, first we need to get them, and then the deployment happens with a lag. That's where the capacity creation.
It is the prior one which you talked about on the demand.
Gaurav Rateria
Thank you, sir, and all the best.
Samir Seksaria
Thank you.
Operator
Thank you. The next question is from the line of Dipesh Mehta with Emkay Global.
Please go ahead.
Dipesh Mehta
Yeah. Thanks for the opportunity.
Two questions. Just want to get sense about North America growth is lagging company average, and YoY basis it is almost half of company average.
Can you provide some sense how we are expecting North America growth to play out, considering our overall industry exposure? Second question is about two vertical particularly, one is ERU, Energy, Resource, and Utility, and the consumer.
Bit softer this quarter, but how you expect it to play out entering into H2? Thank you.
K. Krithivasan
Dipesh, what is the first vertical? I understood—
Aarthi Subramanian
North America.
Dipesh Mehta
Energy Resource.
K. Krithivasan
ERU
Samir Seksaria
and consumer.
Aarthi Subramanian
Yeah.
K. Krithivasan
Dipesh, North America, we expect—see, overall our discussions with the customers and the TCV, they're all looking good, and we expect North America revenue to recover and become healthy sooner. In consumer business, definitely we are expecting next quarter to be a better quarter because it's now, again, for them seasonally Q3 is a important quarter for the consumer business.
Here also, again, none of the comments I tell you should be taken for immediate quarter. You look at that in the medium term, where we see structurally ERU also we're looking at the client TCV, we believe it will also recover.
Like I said, overall across multiple industry segments, looking at the TCV, looking at the client conversation, we are positive that medium-term growth should return.
Dipesh Mehta
Understood. Last question about the margin.
I think we covered it to some extent. If later would look at it from gross margin to conversion perspective and some of the AI business is better margin than company average, that could be by when that's why you expect our normal margin range to return, considering the mix change as well as some of the growth optic which you are envisaging currently?
Samir Seksaria
One, on the gross margin, as we said, subcontractors, some of the M&A initiatives reflecting on it. I will, sorry, repeat the same thing that right now we are prioritizing for the growth.
We do expect the growth, like we talked about, on the capacity creation, should reflect into the revenue or will reflect into the revenue in the coming quarters, whereas we'll have incremental headwinds. We are looking towards inching up from here.
Dipesh Mehta
Thank you.
Operator
Thank you. Our next question is from the line of Rishi Jhunjhunwala with IIFL Institutional Equities.
Please go ahead.
Rishi Jhunjhunwala
Yes, thanks for the opportunity. I have two questions.
First one is, you've recently announced deals like taking over GCC of Best Buy and this MHP deal as well. It seems like customers are willing to transfer their IT operations or workload to you.
In an environment where AI is bringing significant productivity, what is the thought process behind some of these customer deals that you've been able to win? Are they expecting significant amount of that productivity to be driven through you?
As a result, are these deals, while strategic in nature, may also be dilutive on the margin side to begin with?
K. Krithivasan
Rishi, let's talk about the MHP deal. That's probably similar to other cases also.
This has got nothing to do with the productivity. This is about how they transform themselves as an organization.
They bring in this deep capability in automotive sector. What we are doing with them is working with them and establishing a AI Center of Excellence for mobility that would transform the product engineering, maintenance, engineering, develop, design, and supply chain, all of them leveraging AI.
In the process, helping Porsche to become a AI-first organization. You have to look at this not from a productivity angle, but how do we transform the organization to become AI-first?
That would be a very similar playbook we'll be using in the other Best Buy deal also. Wherever we are doing this, the organizations are coming to us to accelerate their own AI transformation.
We leverage the domain capability and industry knowledge they bring in with the customer context and with the AI capability to help in the transformation.
Rishi Jhunjhunwala
Understood, sir. The second question is, and maybe some parts of this has been asked earlier as well, there are three cost line items that if I aggregate, which is fee to external consultants, cost of equipment and licenses, and project expenses in software for service delivery, these three put together seem to be in the nature of the cost that you incur on providing delivery.
For the past two, three quarters, these costs have been growing at almost 40% on a year-on-year terms versus your revenues growing at 11%, 12% in rupee terms. Just wanted to understand how do we look at this significant increase in these costs?
Are these upfront investments being done, and as a result, will actually sweat out a lot better in the next four to eight quarters? Or this is how the nature of deals or the nature of deliveries is now happening, if you can give some color on that?
Samir Seksaria
Rishi, as you called out, the fees to external consultants is the contractors. On the project expenses is where the partnership costs is primarily sitting.
Cost of equipment, the third-party pass-through expenses have broadly been remaining flatish for the last two, three quarters. Now, in terms of how do we see it, what you said, it's a combination of both.
It is investing into the capacity for the growth that will come with a lag. We, if you look at my commentary in the previous quarters also, we have been calling that out.
We expect some of that to continue. On the partnerships, we are accelerating on the specific solutions.
Rishi Jhunjhunwala
Safe to assume some of these will be levers for your margin target that you've been talking about over the next two to four quarters?
Samir Seksaria
Safe to assume that we will continue the investments, safe to assume that we will be looking at the traditional levers, and some of it, like the subcontractor costs, definitely is an opportunity to optimize. Safe to assume on the driving better productivity, driving better utilization would be on our radar.
Rishi Jhunjhunwala
Got it, sir. Thank you so much.
Samir Seksaria
Thank you, Rishi.
Operator
Thank you. The next question is from the line of Kumar Rakesh with BNP Paribas.
Please go ahead.
Kumar Rakesh
Hi. Good evening, and thank you for taking my question.
My first question was around the employee addition for the last couple of quarters have been running ahead of the revenue growth sequentially. Samir also spoke about that subcontracting have increased in this quarter to match the skill requirements.
Is this fair to say that this is a reflection of your confidence in growth going into the near term, December quarter or near term, or this is just the timing thing which we are looking at?
Sudeep Kunnumal
Kumar, Sudeep here. We are seeing definitely the demand up, and especially for next-gen skills.
All our hiring are to fulfill and capture this demand.
Kumar Rakesh
Got it. Thank you.
My second question was around margins. Samir, you spoke about 26% plus 26% to 28% margin band.
That seems like more of a North Star now, may not be realistic given all the investment requirement in the business and the current environment. Would a band which gives a sense for the floor of the margin where it can potentially fall to given all the investments which the business would need?
Samir Seksaria
See, we have always called 26%, 28% as our North Star, our guiding beacon, and we would not want to shift away from that. That is what rallies us to go towards it, and we're going to keep it at 26%, 28%.
That's the long-term aspiration we'll work towards.
Kumar Rakesh
Sure, but from a medium-term perspective, the path to that, would we see more of investments happening, some more softening on terms of margin can be a reality, or we should expect this to be a floor now?
Samir Seksaria
See, as we said, we are making those investments, and we are prioritizing them.
Kumar Rakesh
Got it. Thank you so much.
Operator
Thank you. The next question is from the line of Ashwin Mehta with Ambit Capital.
Please go ahead.
Ashwin Mehta
Thanks for the opportunity. Two questions.
We'd hoped for 2Q to be better when we talked in 1Q. What were the areas of negative surprises this quarter which kept the growth closer to the 1Q levels?
The second question— Ashwin,
Samir Seksaria
complete the second question.
Ashwin Mehta
The second question was in terms of the nature of deferrals in India deals. Were these deals involving hardware purchases, and given the bump-up in terms of prices there, was that the reason for the deferral?
Do we see that revenue materializing in 3Q, or it could get pushed out further for later? The last one was in terms of fresher hiring this quarter.
What did we have?
Samir Seksaria
Ashwin, I'll answer the first two questions, and Sudeep would answer the fresher hiring. On Q2, same as Q1, as we explained, Q2 has been good almost across all parameters excepting the regional markets.
The reason we said, if you compare Q2 and Q1 on international growth, Q1 was almost flatish on international growth, from there Q2 is almost 1.2%, only offset by what we called about the headwind we had in the regional market. What we talked about in India, it's not related to any third-party or hardware pass-through.
We expect it will come back because there was a deferral, but we are very confident it will be back in the medium term. We don't want to put a particular date, but this is a revenue that most likely should come back.
Sudeep?
Sudeep Kunnumal
Ashwin, we onboarded 10,000 grads from the university this year globally. As we speak, we are in the final stages of our campus hiring for the students who graduate in the coming financial year.
Ashwin Mehta
Just one follow-up. Given that we added 14,000 freshers last quarter, we've added 10,000 in this quarter, and our net addition is just 30-odd-thousand people over the last two quarters, would it be fair to assume that the hiring momentum could actually continue in the second half for us to have the bench to service demand?
Sudeep Kunnumal
Ashwin, as I said, see, we are hiring to demand, and definitely we're seeing good demand in these niche technologies, we will continue to hire to staff those positions.
Ashwin Mehta
Thanks, and all the best.
Sudeep Kunnumal
Thank you.
Operator
Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, we will take that as our last question for today.
I now hand the conference over to the management for closing comments. Over to you.
Samir Seksaria
Thank you, operator. In Q2, our revenue grew 0.5% Q-o-Q in constant currency, with international market growing strongly at 1.2%.
We delivered an operating margin of 24% and net margin of 19%. Annualized AI services revenue crossed $3.1 billion.
We had a TCV of $9.6 billion in Q2. We remain confident that TCS is positioned well to convert the opportunities in our pipeline into growth as client spending improves and enterprise AI adoption scales.
This concludes our call today. Thank you all for joining.
Thank you.
Aarthi Subramanian
Thank you.
K. Krithivasan
Thank you, everyone.
Operator
Thank you, members of the management. On behalf of TCS, that concludes this conference call.
Thank you all for joining us. You may now disconnect your lines.
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