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Q1 FY2027 · Earnings Call TranscriptJuly 18, 2026

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, good day and welcome to YES BANK's Q1 FY27 results conference call. On the management panel, we have with us today Mr.

Vinay M. Tonse, Managing Director and Chief Executive Officer; Dr.

Rajan Pental, Executive Director; Mr. Manish Jain, Executive Director; Mr.

Niranjan Banodkar, Chief Financial Officer; and Mr. Sunil Parnami, Head, Investor Relations and Sustainability.

Mr. Vinay M.

Tonse will now give you an overview of the results, which will be followed by a Q&A session. As a reminder, all participant lines will be in the listen-only mode, and there will be an opportunity for you to ask questions after the presentation concludes.

Should you need assistance during this conference, please signal an operator by pressing star then zero on your touch-tone phone. Please note that this conference is being recorded.

Participants are requested to please ask questions pertaining to the bank's Q1 FY27 results only. For any other information, you may reach out to the Corporate Communications team separately.

I now hand the conference over to Mr. Vinay M.

Tonse. Thank you and over to you, sir.

Vinay Tonse

Thank you very much. Am I audible, please?

Operator

You are audible, sir.

Vinay Tonse

Yeah. Thank you.

Good afternoon, everyone, and at the outset, thank you for joining us for the YES BANK Quarter 1 FY27 earnings conference call. I know today many other banks are also coming up with the results, and I really appreciate all of you joining us.

Here, I'm joined by my senior leadership team, and we look forward to taking you through the key highlights of the quarter, and we'll be very happy to answer your questions thereafter. Before I turn to our performance, let me start with a few words on the environment in which we operated this quarter.

The Q1 quarter was characterized by resilient domestic demand, strong tax buoyancy, and steady manufacturing momentum set against rising cost pressures and a more uncertain global backdrop. Encouragingly, the underlying momentums remain firm.

Direct tax collections grew a healthy 16.4%. GST stayed strong at nearly ₹1.95 lakh crore of collections in June.

Manufacturing has now been in expansion mode for 37 straight months. Industrial production hit a 5-month high led by capital goods.

The strength is also being reflected in the uptick in the system-level loan growth over the past few months. One area of pressure was inflation, which rose to a 17-month high of 4.4% on food and fuel costs, prompting RBI to lift its inflation projection to 5.1%, though the monsoon recovered well after a dry start, easing some of that concern.

However, on a positive note, the GDP growth forecasts have not been impaired. Now, I turn to the highlights of our Q1 performance.

It's against the backdrop which I just gave that, at the core, this has been another encouraging quarter for us. Our net profit grew 33.7%, 33.7% that is, year-on-year to ₹1,071 crores.

What I would really like to highlight is the quality of this quarter's delivery. We achieved these results even after moderation of some of our non-core income streams such as gains from our security receipts portfolio, which were significantly lower at ₹86 crore this quarter against ₹338 crores in the same quarter last year, and treasury income too was lower.

There was a one-off interest income on tax refunds of ₹119 crores during this quarter, but even normalizing for that one-off, the underlying performance remains strong. In many ways, this is precisely the outcome we had spoken about last quarter about our core business gradually taking over from the one-off gains, and that's exactly what's happening now with our recurring, sustainable earnings engine increasingly driving performance, and that's exactly the direction we want to be heading towards.

Our operating profit grew 25.5% year-on-year to ₹1,704 crores. Net interest income was up 17.5% year-on-year at ₹2,786 crores, and our net interest margin improved 20 basis points year-on-year to 2.7%, also holding steady sequentially.

We continue to benefit from lower cost of deposits even as yields are impacted by the interest rate cut transmission and the change in mix. Having said this, our near-term aspiration is to move the NIM towards the 3% plus handle over the next 2 years, and the underlying levers are well understood: the continued rundown of the low-yielding RIDF and priority sector deposits, disciplined deposit repricing, and improving CASA mix.

I would caution that with the rate cut cycle now on pause and deposit competition intense, margin expansion will be a steady structural climb rather than a straight line quarter-to-quarter. Fee momentum has been a real positive for us.

Our core fees registered a strong 18.7% growth year-on-year with broad-based traction across cards, third-party products, Forex, as well as transaction banking. Sustained cost discipline remains core to how we run the franchise.

Our cost-to-income ratio improved further to 62.8% from 67.1% a year ago, reflecting genuine operating leverage, income growing well ahead of costs. Return on assets for the quarter was 0.9%, and return on equity was 8.3%.

Moving to the asset quality, we see a further improvement of asset quality this quarter, and it has been the case despite the seasonality that the first quarter typically carries. On a reported basis, gross slippage was lower at 1.4% of advances against 1.6% in the previous quarter and 2.4% in Quarter 1 FY26.

Normalized for an intra-quarter account movement in Quarter 4, slippages are at broadly similar levels quarter-on-quarter. Most encouragingly, the improvement in the retail segment has continued with retail slippages at their lowest in the past 10 quarters.

Having said that, our work continues. Our GNPA and NNPA ratios stand at 1.3% and 0.2% respectively with provision coverage healthy at 81.7%.

Our recoveries and upgrades for the quarter aggregated to ₹564 crores, including ₹86 crores from security receipts portfolio. Despite tepid gains from the SR portfolio in Q1, we maintain our guidance of ₹800 to ₹1,000 crores of gains from this portfolio for this financial year 27.

Moving on to the growth and balance sheet, growth was broad-based across our businesses. Total advances grew 18.3% year-on-year to ₹2.85 lakh crores.

Within this, the corporate and institutional banking grew strongly. Commercial banking, which largely includes MSME, sustained its momentum at 17% year-on-year, and retail banking advances grew 6.9%.

I would offer one point of context on the headline number. A part of the corporate growth is transitional and shorter tenor in nature.

However, on an average balance basis, the bank's underlying loan growth is in the 15% to 16% handle, and that's the growth band we find comfortable for the franchise, and it sets squarely with our commitment to grow in line with the industry or slightly ahead of the industry. It's also heartening to see retail disbursements growing at 27.5% year-on-year for this quarter.

On deposits, the total deposits grew 14.3% year-on-year to ₹3.15 lakh crores. CASA deposits grew 14.3% year-on-year and stronger still at 15% on an average balance basis, a creditable outcome given the sharp rate actions taken by us during FY26 as well as in Quarter 1 FY27.

Retail and branch-led deposits now comprise close to 60% of our total deposits, reflecting the growing granularity of the franchise. In a system where deposits are the binding constraint, our granular, branch-led liability franchise is exactly where we are choosing to compete.

Our capital and liquidity positions remain comfortable with a CET1 ratio of 14% and LCR of 138.2%. Now, this has also been a quarter of significant external validation, and I would like to specifically highlight the recognition our progress elicited from the rating agencies this quarter.

Moody's upgraded our issuing rating to Ba1, CARE upgraded our Basel III Tier 2 and infrastructure bonds to AA+, ICRA upgraded the same instruments to AA, and S&P Global has assigned the bank its inaugural international rating of BB+. Taken together, these actions are an important independent affirmation of the bank's strengthening fundamentals, our improving profitability, better liability profile, enhanced asset quality, robust capitalization, and the confidence drawn from strong institutional sponsorship.

These upgrades also carry tangible benefits for our funding cost, our wholesale and financial institutions relationships, and our brand. A few other updates moving towards the conclusion: we were awarded the most sustainable bank at Business Today's India's Most Sustainable Companies 2026, and we were also included in the FTSE4Good Index for the fourth consecutive year.

We were recognized also among the top 25 India's best workplaces in BFSI for the year 2026. Our NRI homecoming campaigns earned several awards for being most disruptive in the use of AI.

To sum up, we operated this quarter in an environment of resilient domestic demand but heightened external uncertainty, and against that backdrop, YES BANK delivered a set of results that reflect consistency, discipline, and steady progress on our stated priorities. Our compass for the year ahead is unchanged.

While our aspiration would be delivering a full-year ROA around 1%, our focus would remain on improving the core profitability and grow advances and deposits around in a profitable and calibrated way, deepen our deposit and CASA franchise, move margins structurally higher over the medium term, hold the line on asset quality with conservative provisioning, all of this anchored in our PPPT structure, which is the people, product, processes, and technology structure, and also along with collaboration with SMBC, all within the strong governance framework. We are ambitious about where this bank can go and also as realistic about the environment we operate in.

Our foundation is solid, our strategy is clear, and our execution is getting better every quarter, and that gives me a lot of confidence on the road ahead. Thank you very much again for joining us.

We would now be happy to take your questions.

Operator

Thank you very much. We will now begin the question and answer session.

Anyone who wishes to ask a question may press star and one on their touch-tone telephone. If you wish to remove yourself from the question queue, you may press star and two.

Participants are requested to please use handsets while asking a question. Ladies and gentlemen, we will now wait for a moment while the question queue assembles.

Our first question comes from the line of Dev Day with Hotspot Securities. Please go ahead.

Vinay Tonse

Hi, Dev. Good afternoon.

Good afternoon.

Dev Day

Yes, good afternoon to all of you, all the board members. My heartfelt congratulations to you for maintaining the performance up to the level expected by us, okay, and excellent set of EPS numbers.

Again, I would like to ask you about the roadmap in future. What would be the net order loan book you are targeting by the end of this year?

Vinay Tonse

Yeah. Now, Dev ji, thank you very much for this question.

What we are looking at is just see, we are also looking at what sort of funding resources we have, and that gives us a lot of comfort as to our liquidity available. Now, moving forward, we endeavor to grow at a little above what the industry would be growing at, and it could be in the range of maybe 15% to 17%.

Dev Day

My another question would be, just a few days ago, your board has passed a resolution regarding the raising of capital, if I'm not wrong.

Vinay Tonse

Yeah. As far as the capital is concerned, this is an enabler for us to keep in readiness.

At the moment, we have sufficient cushion to grow for the next maybe four three or four quarters, right? At the same time, we are keeping ourselves open, and this is a market where we keep looking at opportunities, and if there is an opportunity for increasing our capital cushion, we would definitely not mind doing that, and that is where we kept the enabler in place.

We also have this thought process within ourselves that if our peers are better capitalized than us, is there a point where we should be looking at increasing our own product? At the moment, we are comfortable.

That's the point I would like to make out.

Dev Day

Okay. By the end of this year, are we going to see a very pleasant picture by the end of FY27?

What is the view of management?

Vinay Tonse

Dev ji, I didn't get you. What was it you said?

Dev Day

By the end of 2027, we will be able to view a very pleasant picture about this bank institution?

Vinay Tonse

Oh, yes. We are quite confident, the way we are seeing the last few quarters.

Dev Day

Sure. Let's hope for the best.

Thank you.

Vinay Tonse

Thank you so much. [laughs]

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of M.B.

Mahesh with Kotak Securities. Please go ahead.

M.B. Mahesh

Good afternoon, sir. Two questions.

One

Vinay Tonse

is on this

M.B. Mahesh

Hello?

Vinay Tonse

Mahesh, good afternoon.

M.B. Mahesh

Good afternoon, sir. Sir, two questions.

One is on the entire FCNR deposits. Just wanted to understand how are you looking at that underlying opportunity and where are you positioned on it currently?

Vinay Tonse

Hello. On the FCNR, Mahesh, see a couple of things I would like to mention.

One is there is a very strong demand that we see, and this comes from two aspects: one is the aspect of the pure deposits that come in, and second is the aspect of leverage. On both these, we are seeing very strong demand, and for the leverage part, you may be aware that we need to have certain limits in place, and whatever limits we have already got, we have filled them also on the leverage part.

As of now we have decided that we will keep it to 9%, I mean 9 times, 9x, right? Going forward, we may change the leverage also if we feel that the market would look at us that way, right?

If there is an expectation that we should raise it, but otherwise as of now, we are keeping it at 9x. Then, though I cannot give a specific number to it, Mahesh, we are quite ahead of the market, I would say, or some of the other banks.

M.B. Mahesh

Sir, just one clarification. On this product, would you be getting any support from your largest investor at this point of time, or is it still a very arm's length kind of a transaction that is happening on the ground?

Second is that how

Vinay Tonse

Sorry, I'll answer this. For this particular transaction, we are not having a constraint of any arm's length, and we are in the process of working out certain limits.

We are looking actually at getting something out of that. Mahesh,

Niranjan Banodkar

just to add, we are working with many international banks for the limits to make this facility available, including SMBC.

M.B. Mahesh

How easy or difficult is it on the ground today, or if I were to ask, what is the constraining factor for this product not having picked up as much as one would have expected it to be?

Niranjan Banodkar

Mahesh, hi. This is Niranjan.

If you just think about what's playing out, there are two macro themes playing out. One, the borrowing spreads globally have inched up, right?

M.B. Mahesh

For

Niranjan Banodkar

let's say, for the overseas financial institutions to take a macro view on India for a 5-year period, the spreads are higher now, right? That's number one.

Number two, it's also a function of where the global liquidity is sitting. As you think about it, it's not that it is equally available everywhere because ultimately somebody, some overseas geography or set of geographies will have to fund India for the size that you're looking at, which the risk limit has to go up by that much notches.

It is a function of the process of the risk review and the limits getting set up across different institutions for a period of 3 years to 5 years in a manner that is also commercially viable and conducive is, I think, that play is underway, and therefore it has not been as fast as one would have expected, because there are also macro themes of geopolitical situation going on.

M.B. Mahesh

Perfect. Vinay sir, you have seen this company now for closer to 5 months, and could you tell us, in terms of having seen this now for a little longer, the issues that we are seeing from the outside is that the margin is the key problem.

Within the margin, there are two sides. One, we understand the cost side.

There is also a problem on the yield side. Do you have some thought process on how does this improve from here onwards, or you think that you'll still need some more time to give an answer to this?

Vinay Tonse

No, answer I have, and of course, this is one of the most important priorities for us also as I came in here. Both the initial thoughts which I had, the drivers of how do I expand the margin, and they're working fairly well what I've seen in the Q1, Mahesh, see, right?

See, basically, you're also aware that since the previous April, that's the previous financial year, we have actually substantially come down on the cost of deposits, right? That has played out very well for us without actually resulting in any attrition of deposits, right?

This is something which gives me a better pricing power. The cost of funding going down gives me a better leverage on the type of assets we are picking up, and also at our discretion, we are also looking at products which are increasingly giving us more yield, right?

I think that way this is something which is not too much of a worry for us right now for the NIM expansion.

M.B. Mahesh

Okay. You do have any number in mind for, let's say, in FY28?

Where do you want to see the margins?

Vinay Tonse

I think north of 3 is something we would be able to achieve.

M.B. Mahesh

Okay. Perfect, sir.

Thank you.

Vinay Tonse

Thank you, Mahesh. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, to ask a question, you may please press star and one.

You are also requested to please restrict yourselves to two questions only. If you have any further questions, you may rejoin the queue.

Our next question comes from the line of Narendra Porwal, an individual investor. Please go ahead.

Narendra Porwal

Hello. Namaskar, sir.

Sir, aawaz aa rahi hai

Vinay Tonse

meri? Haan, namaskar ji, Narendra ji.

Namaskar. Dhanyawad,

Narendra Porwal

sir, sabse pehle toh mujhe bolne ke liye opportunity di iske liye. Sir, hum kuch samay se dekh rahe hain ki hamari bank jo CASA deposits ka ratio jo growth karna chahiye, sir, woh growth nahi kar pa rahi hai.

Jabki hamari size ki bank IDFC FIRST Bank wagera bahut achhi tarah se CASA growth kar rahi hai. Toh uske liye kya reasons hain, sir?

Aap kuch dekhiye kyunki, sir, mera aisa sochna hai ki aane wale time mein NSE hai, Jio ke hain, bahut badi size ke jo multiples IPO aane wale hain aur kaafi taadad mein investors wahan apni bank mein apna paisa deposit karke woh IPOs ko subscribe karenge. Toh sir, hum aisa kuch plans karein ki hamari bank mein, sir, hamara jo cutoff time hota hai ASBA IPO bharne ka, woh sir 3:30 3:30 baje tak ka hota hai, jabki IDFC Bank wahi 4:30 baje tak deti hai aur State Bank of India 5:00 baje tak ka bhi cutoff time rakhti hai.

Toh sir, hum kyon na aisa plan karein ki hamari CASA badhane ke liye hum is tarah ka planning karein? Jaise sir, aapne maine last year 1 saal pehle bhi bola tha ki IDFC Bank mein aggressively marketing karke apne customers badhaye hain aur wahan se aap dekhiye ki uski CASA retails mein kaise growth hui hai.

Toh sir, is tarah se kuch hum bhi plans karein ki hamara kuch timing badha ke hum aggressively retail customers ko growth pe le jayein, toh is tarah se bade IPO aayenge aur ek baar, sir, hamari bank mein kisi customer ne account khulwa diya aur balance rakha hai, toh woh fir dusri bank mein transfer nahi hota hai bahut jaldi se. Iske baare mein aap dhyan dijiye, sir.

Mera yahi suggestions tha ki bank yahan se ek achhi tarah se retails mein growth kar

Niranjan Banodkar

sakti hai,

Narendra Porwal

sir. Sir,

Niranjan Banodkar

bahut-bahut dhanyawad aapke suggestion ke liye aur sir, hum zaroor ispe kaam karenge. Thank you.

Kyunki bahut dikkat hoti hai, sir. Hum logon ko bhi bahut baar kya hota hai ki last time mein matlab kya hai kabhi kuch IPOs mein subscribe reh jata hai, toh woh dikkat kaafi hoti hai, sir.

Aap uske baare mein kuch dhyan dijiye, sir. Zaroor.

Thank you. Thank you for your suggestion, sir.

Zaroor kaam karenge. Narendra ji.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Sajal Raj from Zenflow Finance Private Limited.

Please go ahead.

Sajal Raj

Good afternoon, sir.

Niranjan Banodkar

Hi, good afternoon.

Sajal Raj

Yes. Sir, my first question will be advances have grown faster than deposits this quarter, how do you plan to balance loan growth with deposit mobilization going forward?

Should we expect deposit growth to catch up over the coming quarters?

Niranjan Banodkar

Niranjan here. Thanks for the question.

Advances growth for us is yes, certainly higher, but we said that in our opening remarks as well that we always go through some transient flows or movements on the end-of-period balances, and therefore a metric that we internally track is actually the daily average balances. If I see the daily average balances for both advances and deposits for June quarter versus March quarter, the CD ratio actually has remained the same, there's not been a worsening CD ratio.

In fact, both growth rates for deposits as well as advances are in line. Number two, and it's a very important principal question that we will continue to focus on liabilities-led balance sheet expansion.

The idea is never to really aggressively pursue assets in the absence of a deposit construct, and you would have seen that over the last 3 years, our singular focus has been to continue to improve the quality of our balance sheet. Improving the CASA ratio, getting the higher share from branch banking or retail deposits have been areas of focus, and that's getting reflected in our cost of deposits as well.

If you look through the last 3 years, our bank actually has possibly delivered the best outcome on cost of deposits as compared to the industry at large. I think that's an area that we are absolutely focused on, and I think your point is absolutely well taken that deposit growth will be an important constituent, and we will make sure that we are not accelerating on advances in the absence of deposits.

Sajal Raj

Thank you so much, sir, and

Operator

Thank you. Our next question is from the line of Shreyas Pimple from Nomura.

Please go ahead.

Shreyas Sinha

Hi. Good afternoon, sir.

Thank you so much for the opportunity. My question was on SR recoveries.

This quarter, we had SR recoveries of around ₹86 crore versus last quarter of around ₹456 crore and higher in the previous quarter. Can you explain what is the reason for lower recovery this quarter?

Niranjan Banodkar

Shreyas, thank you for the question. Niranjan here.

There is some echo, my request could be you can just go on mute, and then we'll be happy to take a second question from you. On security receipts, I think, absolutely a right observation.

We have had SR redemptions at ₹86 crores as compared to ₹450. We have also been saying that the face value of security receipts, which is now outstanding at ₹1,500 crores, it's coming down, right?

The recoveries that are going to come through are going to be a little bit more unpredictable, not that there is no stored capital or stored value sitting in the security receipts book. It is still very much there.

We have a face value outstanding of ₹1,500 crores. Against that, actually the NAVs are upwards of ₹2,000 crores, and NAVs are today's present value.

If you actually look through from a gross recovery standpoint, the number could be slightly higher than that. The resolution is a function of what JC Flowers does, their execution, and we have no control on the pace or the timing of those executions.

We will go through these periods where one quarter could have a higher security receipts resolution, and another quarter you may have a much lower. At a very structural level, we said that during fiscal 27, we do believe, let's say anywhere between ₹800 to ₹1,000 crores for the full year should be a number that we expect to come through.

As I said, I want to caveat that it's finally a function of what JC Flowers does. It is possible that we could get higher than ₹800 to ₹1,000, or it is also possible that we could also be slightly lower.

Our sense is, ₹800 to ₹1,000 should be a reasonable probability to ascribe for fiscal 27.

Shreyas Sinha

Thank you so much for that explanation. My second question was on one-off in net interest margins.

You highlighted that ₹119 crore of interest on IT refund, if we remove that, the margins are down around 6, 7 basis points according to my calculations. Can you explain what are the things that will help us improve margin from here on?

Niranjan Banodkar

Shreyas, I think one clarification is that the interest on refund actually forms part of a non-interest income and not part of the net interest income. It is not although the it is interest on an income tax refund, we do not include that as part of the the NII line, and therefore it's also not part of the the net interest margin computation.

Shreyas Sinha

To that extent,

Niranjan Banodkar

there is actually no adjustment. Our net interest margin continues to be stable on a on a YoY basis.

Shreyas Sinha

Oh

Niranjan Banodkar

sorry, on a QoQ basis, my my apologies, on a QoQ basis.

Shreyas Sinha

Understood. Thank you so much for the explanation.

Those were my questions.

Niranjan Banodkar

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. To ask a question, ladies and gentlemen, you may press star and one.

Our next question comes from the line of Jai Mundhra from ICICI Securities. Please go ahead.

Jai Mundhra, your line has been unmuted. You may proceed with your question.

We do not seem to be receiving a response from the current participant.

Niranjan Banodkar

Ladies and I think we could hear Jay.

Operator

One moment, please, sir. I will bring him back on the line.

Jai Mundhra

Board approval now, CET1 is 14%

Operator

Sorry to interrupt, Jay. We request you to please repeat your question.

You are not audible.

Jai Mundhra

Sure. No problem.

Sir, I wanted to check on your capital raising plan. We have a board approval in place, and we also have a court case, which is pending, the outcome is still pending.

We have a decent 14% CET1, but just wanted to check your timeline and quantum, and would this have any bearing from the court case?

Niranjan Banodkar

Jay, Niranjan here. First, quick clarification, which is your second part of the question, whether this capital raise has any linkage with the AT1 case.

We follow a practice of having an enabling approval in play, and that is something we've continued from last year. We had the same approval for fiscal 26.

We also have the same approval now effectively for fiscal 27, actually till the date of AGM. It is not a trigger of any particular event or court case.

I think that's the first clarification. The second point is, at 14% core equity ratio, we do believe that we have reasonable capital for at least a next 1 year of growth.

What gives us that confidence is also because we do have the DTA, which is available to us. One, the ROE structure itself is improving.

Let's say ROE of about 8% to 8.5% is accreting to my capital. More importantly, the effect of DTA on that ROE is also playing out, meaning the bank is able to actually grow at anywhere between 12% to 13% of risk-weighted assets and not consume capital, right?

Therefore, even if the growth were to be in excess of 13%, let's say 15% to 16%, the quantum of consumption of capital is lower. The limited point I wanted to make is we believe 14% is reasonable for the next four quarters of growth.

Having said that, capital is a subject that the reason we keep an enabling approval is because sometimes capital, you want to look through raising capital, which can take the 14% maybe in line also with some of the peers because it also adds to buffers, right? We've kind of tracked some of the other banks.

That's the way let's say rating agencies also look at us. More buffers are always good, and that's something we've worked on over the last 3 to 4 years.

If you go back to our last capital raise, we had actually raised it when our CET1 was at about 11% to 11.5%. This time around, clearly we don't want to drop to those levels.

We will raise it, let's say, in the 13% handle, right? We want to keep adding to our buffers as well.

Whenever we think that opportunity is right, available with right players, that is in the interest of our shareholders, we do want to keep that optionality available to us, hence an enabling approval.

Jai Mundhra

Sure. Thanks, Niranjan.

That is very helpful. Regarding the court case, of course, this is matter and we will be hearing from the court itself, but there's no pending provision, right?

If it come, it comes, right? There's no backup for in case the decision is adverse, right?

That is how it should be.

Niranjan Banodkar

There is no adjustment to our financial statements on account of this court case at this point in time.

Jai Mundhra

Right. Okay.

Secondly, on the retail growth, right? Overall growth has been strong, we are now 18%, which is slightly higher or maybe similar to system.

That seems to be driven by corporate in a large part, retail is still 7 8 7% types. What is your strategy?

Now retail slippages also seem to be multi-quarters low. How should one look at retail growth for, let's say, FY27?

Rajan Pental

Hi, this is Rajan here. Retail is actually on a very strong wicket, and largely one of the reasons being that the slippages are under control, and last 1 year we have really worked on the platform, scorecards, and also policy refresh.

From here onwards, the trajectory from being flat to a 7%, this is one journey which you look at from a book perspective. On an incremental basis, actually this is a business which is growing between 25% to 30% depending on segment to segment.

When a portfolio remains flat for a year or so, the book takes some time, but on the momentum of the fresh business, we are in a very steady state and in a good state to be in a good range of 25% to 30%. Now this will start reflecting in the subsequent quarters when it comes to the book growth point, but right now we are very, very strong on the disbursements.

Jai Mundhra

Sure. Can we reach mid-teens number by FY27?

Because at some point of time, the disbursement will translate to loan growth, right?

Rajan Pental

Sure, absolutely. We are working towards that as well.

Jai Mundhra

Sure. That's helpful.

Secondly, on recovery target, sir, if you can specify either from SR recovery and overall recovery, we used to have a ₹5,000 crore odd numbers, but of course, after that, a lot of recovery has already happened. What would be your sense for FY27 recovery numbers?

Niranjan Banodkar

The other recoveries that we were talking about, right, one of the reasons we were talking about the gross recovery number at that stage was because some of it was also predicated from the corporate resolutions. To be fair, I think we would not ascribe a lot of value now to the corporate resolutions because that story is behind us.

What we now sit with is really the JC Flowers ARC and which, like I mentioned, as compared to last year about ₹1,500 crores, at least we do believe that anywhere between ₹800 to ₹1,000 crores is something we should see in fiscal 27 also playing out. On the retail recoveries and upgrades, that is anyways now forming part of the net credit cost structure at the NPA.

We are now segregating that and globbing up to give you a headline numbers on the recoveries and resolutions. I would say a very focus for us is really on the core ROA now.

We said this last time as well. Our objective continues to improve the core ROA meaningfully.

Our expectation is fiscal 27, we should see a 15 to 20 basis points expansion in the core ROA. If the resolutions, let's say the external factors on bond gains and trading, if all of those elements also play out, I think we should be able to also deliver the fully reported 1% ROA for fiscal 27.

Jai Mundhra

Right. That is very clear.

Niranjan, lastly, if you have the ECL transitional estimate as to what could be the, let's say, one-time transitional impact for bank as you transition to ECL next year? Thank you.

Niranjan Banodkar

Jay, we've again, we've not publicly disclosed those numbers yet because we are in the process of putting that together. The the ECL number we've said has has a component of for us has an offset from the security receipts.

For us, if you allow us the benefit of security receipts, actually there is no impact on ECL. However, in the what's going to happen is that the ECL adjustment for security receipts will not be allowed in the balance sheet, we have to keep taking that through the through the P&L for the year.

At the gross level, there is likely to have some ECL impact. We don't expect that to be very material.

Also adjust or take into account the fact that the new circular is also coming in on, credit risk risk-weighted assets from 1st April. When we when when we kind of look at both these circulars together, which is the ECL transition impact and the new capital adequacy circular risk weights credit risk weights, we do believe that the impact, if at all, is not going to be material on our core equity.

I think that's really the headline message.

Jai Mundhra

I'm Jay,

Niranjan Banodkar

we will come back during the course of this year as we firm up these numbers, so that we can give you a better visibility of, what impact would play out.

Jai Mundhra

Sure. No, that is very helpful, Rajan.

Thank you and all the very best.

Vinay Tonse

Thank you, Jay.

Sunil Parnami

Thank you, Jay. Thank you very much.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Shreyas K.T.

with Sundaram Asset Management Company. Please go ahead.

Shreyas Bhaskar

Hi. Good afternoon, team.

Can you guys hear me?

Sunil Parnami

Yes, loud and clear, Shreyas. Thank you.

Shreyas Bhaskar

I hope all of you are doing well. Just a quick question.

I believe you had called out earlier that you're going to be more cautious in the commercial banking MSME segment, but then I saw that the slippages have gone up actually. Could you point out, is there any specific segment or cohorts just being stressed and what is the situation on the ground and impact from the recent macro situation?

Rajan Pental

Our commercial banking portfolio continues to be of high quality, and the slippages are quite controlled in Q1 as well. While we continue to assess and monitor the portfolio very closely for any impact of the West Asia war, but happy to report that there is very limited impact on the portfolio, and the clients have managed this crisis very, very well.

In a nutshell, the portfolio quality continues to be very good.

Shreyas Bhaskar

Perfect. Thank you.

Quickly one more, just on the retail. Again, I get all the answers from my questions over there, but just a few more things.

One is, what products are you planning to be more aggressive on going forward and where are you being more cautious? That's one.

Second, the disbursements number being lower, is that just seasonality or can it be attributed to any other reason?

Rajan Pental

I'll take the second question firstly. On the disbursement on a QoQ basis, it is actually the seasonality because March typically is very high, plus there is an element of co-lending or partnership-led, let's say, disbursements that kind of come through.

At an organic level, I think we continue to be quite similar levels this quarter as well. If I were to, however, bring your attention to the YoY growth in disbursements, that is actually close to 30%.

You're quite looking at continuing to focus on growing the disbursements because we know it is a matter of time before the disbursements will start resulting into the book growth. Because right now, the run-off factors are also there, but as the run-off start tapering because we had slowed down the loan book between 23 to 24, 25, right?

We started slowing that down. As the run-off starts slowing down, these disbursements will start also resulting into a book growth, and we do believe I think that's about 3 to 4 quarters from now that we should be able to deliver double-digit growth as well on retail.

Shreyas Bhaskar

Perfect. Thank you so much.

Regarding the product strategy within retail?

Rajan Pental

From our side, there is a multi-product. To begin with, when you think about us, Shreyas, you have to think that we are a all-weather universal structure of assets, right?

It's not that we are dependent on any particular product, right? When retail has been slower, we have the ability to work through the corporate engine or the commercial banking engine, right?

Sunil Parnami

Likewise, within retail, we also operate with multiple products, and therefore it's also sometimes a function of where we see these growths tapering off. For example, personal loans, we had slowed down quite meaningfully over the last 2 years, but we are now again growing that book, but there are certain channels through which we are growing faster than other channels, right?

I think that's one part. The second, there are certain products like LAP, where we will continue to do because we did well in the past, and it's a product that we'll continue to grow.

Then there are products that we are now calling it as franchise products where as and when our customers will need, let's say, a home loan or an auto loan, I think these will be products that we will also be willing to offer to these, right? You combine all of this, and add to it the fact that we also have co-lending structures in place, it is going to be quite diversified from, let's say, the product mix.

I think certain guardrails with which we operate is, for example, the secured, unsecured. We'll not allow a whole lot of unsecured to be dominant part of this.

Typically, let's say it's a 75:25 ratio, we will ensure that 75% secured versus 25% unsecured kind of retail, right? I think that's really the broad theme.

I'm not sure if you got the gist of the answer, but I think it will continue to remain largely diversified.

Shreyas Bhaskar

Perfect. Thank you so much for answering all the queries, and wish you the best of luck going forward.

Sunil Parnami

Thank you.

Vinay Tonse

Thank you so much.

Operator

Thank you. The next question is from the line of Rama Subbareddy, an individual investor.

Please go ahead.

Rama Subbareddy

Yeah. Hi, sir.

Very good evening, everyone. My question is recently board has approved the capital raise of ₹16,000 crore where 10% equity dilution, right?

How do you ensure that the existing shareholders will not be impacted with that kind of capital in the future? Because if you see earlier, right, we were like okay basically you have given a lot of discount for the new shareholders such as PE investors, right, and even SMBC also they got in good price.

In future when you are raising this equity, how do you ensure that existing shareholders not going to impacted? Because we have been staying for last 6 years and you have not paid any dividends, right, and still we are expecting the bank will deliver the good numbers and been waiting for so many years and you have to take care, so that is my concern, can you please address?

Niranjan Banodkar

Good afternoon, sir. Thank you very much for the question and, first and foremost, sir, thank you very much for being a patient supporter of the bank over the last many years.

You Our objective clearly has been to solve for what we think is the right strategy and the right quality of the bank, and you would see that over the last 2 to 3 years, the performance of the bank has continued to improve. We had always stated that the bank will deliver an ROA to exit FY26 with 1%.

I think we've we've delivered that as well, and, there are clearly signs of sustenance that's playing out as well. Now, as the bank, continues to grow, there will be there will be need for capital because when we compare our core equity ratio compared to others, the other banks are also higher than us.

There are, there are going to be levers that the bank will continue to use to make sure that we are not compromising or it is not coming at the cost of shareholder value. I think we that's also an important factor that we consider when we think through elements of capital raise.

Having said that, what I want to clarify, which I did in in one of the previous questions, is that this resolution is an enabling resolution, that we are seeking. This was a resolution that was also approved by the shareholders last year, and we are only refreshing that enabling resolution.

This resolution only keeps us gives us gives the bank the optionality to trigger a capital raise in the event we believe that the raise is going to be beneficial for the bank, for its growth, and ultimately for creating value for its shareholders. That's really the objective with which we have gone about taking this resolution.

Operator

Thank you.

Vinay Tonse

Thank you, Reddy garu. Thank you.

Niranjan Banodkar

Thank you.

Operator

Our next question is from the line of Sushil Choksey with Indus Equity Advisors. Please go ahead.

Sushil Choksey

Congratulations on stable result. Sir, I have a little different question than normal analysts would ask.

Prospects for India-Japan businesses are getting better every day. Infrastructure finances, Japan is taking a big lead in India, be it bullet train, maybe now shipbuilding, many other aspects.

Trade is concerned, India is likely to do much better with the country, and there are certain other specific government-related industry like defense and many other aspects also taking place. Can you throw some light that, being a preferred partner in our bank, we have some scope of business growth in the Indo-Japanese business corridor?

Vinay Tonse

Yeah. Thank you, Choksey sir, thank you for this question, which you said is a little different to what normally we get in the analysts meet.

See, couple of things which we observe now is that the Indo-Japanese corridor itself is getting strengthened, right, year after year, and particularly after the recent meeting, inter-government meeting which happened, and also between the Prime Ministers as well as the trade teams, we see a lot of traction happening much more than what has been seen in the last few years, I would say, right? Now, with also the agreements that are in place, the corridor gets busy, that's for sure.

Now, the aspect of how we would be leveraging our partnership with SMBC is something we have already started working upon. We already have some MOUs in place, and eventually our endeavor is to get the max that happens in this, if I may put it this way, the corridor between these two countries should happen through our bank.

This is our endeavor, and that's what we are already working towards. There are certain specifics which at this point of time I'm not able to mention because of confidentiality reasons, but otherwise we are very strongly working on these aspects.

Be it trade or be it investments, or what you rightly said that there's a lot of infrastructure investments that is coming in from Japan into the Indian projects, right? There is also a lot of interest that is seen from the Japanese corporates establishing some project or the other in India, be it in the form of a wholly owned subsidiary or a joint venture, or even some distribution channels out there.

I hope that answers.

Sushil Choksey

Yeah. That answers.

At least there is some visibility visible in your comment.

Vinay Tonse

Definitely,

Sushil Choksey

definitely, definitely. Secondly, sir, we have a very good partner where the Government of India new scheme for FCNR(B) led by RBI is visible.

I am quite sure that we should be doing well because people trap Japan very often for the yields and the rate. No doubt the Japanese are looking upward trajectory right now.

In FCNR(B), we should be doing much better than most of the other banks. I had missed the question because there were too many calls at the same hour, pardon me for that.

Sir, if any color which you think you will do on a leverage trade or a straight deposit?

Vinay Tonse

Yeah. In fact, yeah, that you're right that this question had come up in the earlier part of this, but then what we are looking at is a max leverage of 9x this time, at this point of time rather, right?

We will perhaps be sticking to that,

Sushil Choksey

and

Vinay Tonse

we are seeing a lot of interest that is coming in from various geographies, and one of which is towards the east also importantly for us. Now, whatever limits we had for the leveraging, one aspect is of course getting the deposits, right, the straight 1:1 sort of a deposit.

The pure play FCNR(B) deposit. That is something which we have absolutely no constraint, we are getting quite a bit, which happens in our branch banking franchise.

The leveraging part is something which we are also looking at fairly strongly, and we see a good growth that has already happened, and further growth will depend on the limits which we get from some of our partners or the foreign banks. Thank you, Choksey sir.

Sushil Choksey

Thank you, sir. Thank you for answering all my questions and good luck for the year, sir.

Vinay Tonse

Thank you so much.

Operator

Thank you so much. Thank you.

Ladies and gentlemen, we will take that as the last question for today. I would now like to hand the conference over to Mr.

Vinay M. Tonse for closing comments.

Over to you, sir.

Vinay Tonse

Yeah. Thank you very much, and to all the participants in this call also, I would like to convey our sincere appreciation for coming in and joining us knowing fully well that today is a day of many bank results that are coming up.

Thank you very much.

Operator

Thank you. This brings the conference call to an end.

On behalf of YES BANK, we thank you all for joining us. You may now disconnect your lines.