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Q1 FY2026 · Earnings Call TranscriptMay 7, 2026

Sebastian Gonsior

Good morning everyone, and welcome to the earnings call of PVA TePla AG for Q1 2026. My name is Sebastian Gonsior, and I'll be moderating today's call.

As usual, CEO Jalin Ketter and CFO Markus Roos will first walk you through the results for Q1 and share their outlook on the rest of the year before we will then open the floor for your questions. A quick housekeeping note before we start: this call is being recorded, and a replay will be made available on our website within the day.

With that, let's get started. Jalin, over to you.

Jalin Ketter

Thanks, Sebastian. I have to say this time not good morning, rather than good evening, as I'm joining this call from the US this time.

Last week would have been more comfortable when I would have been able to join from Asia. I hope the line will be stable, otherwise the colleagues in Wettenberg have to continue with the presentation.

You see, we are very busy to execute our strategy. With having said that, it is even more exciting for me for the [unclear] how last years did in our orders.

With inspection tools for HBM, for Advanced Logic, we stepped into the next level of semiconductor industry and achieved an order volume of 60 million. In Material Solutions, R&D related activities around compound semiconductor materials significantly start to contribute as well.

With that, we achieved a record order intake of 121.6 million during the first quarter. What makes it important to say is that it's not one order that's related to that order intake.

It's different customers, different technologies which are included in that development. A broader base of orders that we are handling with now.

As expected, we started the year with a lower level of revenue and also earnings caused by strategic investments in our sales and service infrastructure in the organization, but also a lower order momentum from 2025, which is now starting to run through our books. These investments in our strategy will continue this year.

Also, we will have included some sort of one-off effects during the year, which will phrase out until year-end so we will have a fresh start into 2027. With the higher order momentum that we are seeing at the first quarter, we further underline our guidance that we gave to you at the beginning of the year, and we are very confident that we will achieve that guidance.

Starting with the first quarter, we also changed our segment structure. Far, it was Semiconductor Systems and Industrial Systems and a very market-oriented approach that we have been running with that structure.

Each entity in the group was assigned to a segment. With the strategic development of our metrology business, which is more and more growing, we changed the focus from a very market-oriented approach to a technology-oriented approach.

This also finally reflects how we are managing the company today. It's not only giving transparency to you, it's also how we are seeing the company and how we are managing the company, that is showing in that segment structure now.

On the Material Solutions side, our systems are used for the production of advanced materials in the aerospace market, for the production of high-performance components used to build up the grid infrastructure, and most important today in the semiconductor market to produce bulk materials, such as indium phosphide, for example, which is important for the communication between data centers. It's also including the production of semi-grade graphite and plasma solutions for back-end oriented applications, such like wafer-level packaging.

On the Metrology side, we provide a broad product portfolio to the semiconductor industry. Most important there is today tools for the inspection of 2.5 and 3D structures in Advanced Logic and memory.

With that, I wanted to bring everyone on the same level. This earnings call is really focusing on the financials of the first quarter and our new segment structure.

I'm happy to hand over to Markus now, who will show you how these segments are reflecting in our numbers.

Carl Markus Groß

Thank you very much, Jalin. A good morning from my side.

Before we start with the financials as regular, I would like to take the chance to point also out some characteristics of our new segments and how these are affecting our financials. In Material Solutions, the system lead times with 12 to 18 months are way longer of those in Metrology with 4 to 8 months.

Reason being here is that in Material Solutions, our systems are tailored to the specific needs of our customers. This means there is an engineering phase, then custom fabricated parts are ordered and received, the assembly can start afterwards, and finally, the installment on the customer site happens.

This whole process takes usually 12 to 18 months. On the other side, in Metrology, the systems are way more standardized, lead times are way shorter with 4 to 8 months.

This high degree of customization also reflects in the revenue recognition. In Material Solution, often the revenue is recognized over time.

This is not happening in a linear fashion over the time. It's based on a cost-to-cost measurement, which means that the engineering and the assembly phase only contribute proportional less than to phases where the parts are received.

It's usually an S-curve you're seeing in the pattern how the revenue is recognized. On the other hand, in Metrology, revenue is recognized at a specific point in time, which means when the system is delivered or when it's installed at the customer's site.

Payment terms are also different. In Material Solutions, we are receiving prepayments, usually in a structure of 30/60/10 or similar.

If it's a larger project, then the prepayments are tailored to the project to ensure we are always financed. Metrology, there are prepayments very uncommon, it's usually not what we are seeing here.

What both segments have in common is that the service revenue is around 15% of the total revenue. With this in mind, let's start immediately with our group revenue.

We're seeing a slight overall decrease year-over-year of around 6.6%— 6.7%— from 59 million to 55 million. The picture in both segments is a little bit mixed.

In Material Solutions, we're seeing a decrease of 10 million or 24%. This is primarily caused by what I just explained.

The order intake end of '24 and in the first half of '25 was rather low, which means we're currently, with the order intake from Q3 and Q4, in the engineering phase, which is only contributing in a lower degree to the revenue. This will change in the upcoming quarters.

In Metrology, revenue is up 6.4 million or almost 39%. This is driven especially by the acoustic metrology.

Q1 will be the low point of our revenue in 2026. Looking at the order intake, we are very happy to report our second strongest quarter in company history.

What also makes us very proud is that it's not depending on a single customer or technology. We're seeing more or less a 50/50 split between the segments.

In Material Solution, synthesis for compound materials played an important role. In Metrology, the order intake is acoustic driven.

Here, we're seeing some catch-up effects from Q4 '25, but also first orders for HBM. As we pointed out in the last call, delivery here is agreed for 2027, the usual pattern of 4 to 8 months in Metrology doesn't apply to these orders.

Taking a look at the development of the order intake, we see the very strong increase from Q1 '25 to Q1 '26 with an average rate of 27.5%. Quarter-over-quarter, it's an increase of 33%.

As we said, in Metrology, there are some catch-up effects and 2027 deliveries. That's important to keep in mind.

For Q2, in Material Solution, we already secured additional orders for compound materials in the semiconductor industry, which includes further orders for indium phosphide. Here we would like to point out that Material Solutions is a project business, which depends on their important investment decisions, and so it's more lumpy and doesn't show a regular run rate like we're expecting in Metrology, which is also expected to return to a level of around 30 million, with a pick-up in the orders in late H2 2026 onwards.

Coming to the group profit. Our gross profit decreased from 19.5 million to 15.6 million, which is primarily caused by the low level of revenue.

As we said, this is a temporary effect, and is also affected due to a lower absorption of our fixed cost, a slight decrease in the gross profit margin from 33% down to 28.5%. Due to the high degree of fixed costs in our overheads, this immediately affects our EBITDA, which reduced from 8.2 million down to 1.4 million.

The overhead level is around what we have seen in Q3 and Q4, there is no big change here. With the reduction in the gross profit of 3.9 million and additional 2 million in the sales and administrative costs, which makes the FTE build-up we've seen in '25 fully visible, we have an immediate impact here.

Also included are one-off items. We explained those in the last call of around 1.3 million, where the largest portion is coming from the restructuring due to the closure of our site in Coburg.

Coming to the individual segments: Material Solutions, the revenue is especially affected by the order intake in late '24 and early '25, but as we said, this is a temporary effect, but is also affected based on the lower gross profit and an increase in the overheads, our EBITDA, which reduced from 6.6 million down to 1 million. At the same time, the order intake more than doubled from 24.8 to 59 million, which gives us great confidence that we're here seeing only a temporary effect.

Based on the order book coming from Q3, Q4, and also Q1, we turn around. In Metrology, we're seeing an increase in the revenue of 38.2% from 16.6 to 23 million.

The EBITDA decreased at the same time from 3.4 million down to 2.2 million. Here, the scale-up of the organization and especially one-offs from the restructuring played an important role.

Looking at the order intake, we can see that this almost tripled from 21.3 million to 62.7 million. I would like to close the financials with an outlook on Q2.

Here, we are expecting that the order intake in Metrology will return to the regular run rate roughly 30 million. In Material Solutions, the order momentum will continue.

As I said, due to the characteristics of the segment, we're seeing a higher volatility here, which will be visible in the order intake. Group revenue is, based on the conversion of our order book, expected to grow substantially quarter-over-quarter and year-over-year.

With the higher volume of revenues, profitability is expected to improve on all levels quarter-over-quarter. For the full year, we guided 255 to 275 million in revenue and an EBITDA between 26 and 31 million.

We're confirming this guidance, and based on the order intake we received in Q1, and as a side note, most of these projects were already discussed when we published our guidance, they have been factored in, it gives us great confidence to achieve our goals for '26, but also gives us great visibility for '26 for beyond '26. That's from the financials, and we are happy to head into the Q&A together with you now.

Sebastian Gonsior

Thank you Markus and Jalin. Now we're going to the questions.

Constantin Hesse is first.

Constantin Hesse

Hi, morning. Can you hear me?

Carl Markus Groß

Yes, morning Constantin.

Jalin Ketter

Yes, morning.

Constantin Hesse

Perfect. Morning everyone, thanks so much for taking my questions.

The first one is just on the cadence of the order intake. I think it's clear Q2 Metrology returns to that level that we had spoken about before.

Then as we go into Q3, Q4, should that be a sustainable acceleration, or should the acceleration only really come in Q4? Then in Material Solutions, I'm just trying to piece together what exactly you mean by the momentum continues, but expect volatility.

Maybe you can comment a little bit about what the underlying momentum is just for better understanding of how to model order intake for Material Solutions going forward, right? Just to basically try to understand that.

That's the first question, thanks.

Carl Markus Groß

For Material Solutions, maybe just let's start with this. Based on the discussions we're having with customers, etc., we're very confident that we will stay here on an elevated level.

Looking at Q4 and Q1, these were very good quarters, and the higher volatility is coming from there are larger projects included, and it's difficult to guide will they be in Q2 or Q3, etc. This makes it a little bit more volatile or lumpy, as we said, yeah.

Makes sense?

Constantin Hesse

Understood. Elevated levels, basically below Q4, below Q1, but then higher than obviously Q2 last year.

Carl Markus Groß

Absolutely.

Constantin Hesse

Fine. Then just on Metrology, it runs at about 30 million for Q2, Q3, and then the big acceleration in Q4, or should we already expect an acceleration in Q3?

Carl Markus Groß

We're looking more at Q4 than Q3 for the acceleration.

Constantin Hesse

Understood. Then just lastly on the investments for growth, clearly those are still hindering profitability improvement this year.

Looking into, and Jalin, I think you already commented on that on the last call, just really a homework question, we should start seeing some proper operating leverage hitting the business in '27, right?

Carl Markus Groß

Yes, absolutely.

Constantin Hesse

Okay. Perfect.

All right, that's it for me, thanks.

Sebastian Gonsior

All right, thank you. Hartmut Moers is next.

Hartmut Moers

Good morning. Can you hear me now?

Carl Markus Groß

Yes, good morning.

Jalin Ketter

Yes, good morning.

Hartmut Moers

I would also like to start with the the order intake. Can you give us a feel of you should have an order book by now if you didn't have any cancellation, which I, don't expect, of around 245 million.

How much of that roughly is related to the year '27 and beyond?

Carl Markus Groß

We are very confident that we will achieve our guidance for '26 with 255 to 275 million, and all orders we are seeing now will contribute more and more for our goals to 2027. This is also the case with the orders we received in Q1 that they will already give us great confidence for a good start into 2027.

Hartmut Moers

Let me rephrase it probably a little bit. Last quarter you gave the indication that roughly 50% of the high end of your guidance was already in the book.

Can you give a similar indication this quarter as well?

Carl Markus Groß

It's increasing part substantially with the order intake of Q1, and we're very confident here for our guidance.

Hartmut Moers

Good. Then let's probably come to the composition of the order intake.

You're saying in Metrology you will come back to a normal run rate of 30 million next quarter. Is it fair to assume that you deem roughly 30 million of the order intake that came in Q1 as, let's say, extraordinary and where would that come from or give us a feel for the additional volume that you now picked in that particular quarter?

Carl Markus Groß

I wouldn't say it's extraordinary. There are some catch-up effects coming from Q4, where the order intake was a bit lower.

Then we have the orders with delivery in '27. Then the run rate of 30 million should be more seen than an average over the quarters than a hard value, yeah.

There are always some kind of fluctuations here, but it's nothing out of the ordinary.

Hartmut Moers

Probably a final one with regard to the profitability. I was wondering a bit about the rather high impact you had on the gross margin side.

You showed the 3.9 million year-on-year down. You're roughly at 28 million.

If we look at the divisional development, you had rather strong increase in the Material Solutions side, which I suppose has an even higher gross margin than the Material Solutions part. You should have a positive mix effect from that on the gross margin side, which should have a compensatory effect.

Could you please go a bit more into detail on that side?

Carl Markus Groß

The gross margin on the product side is very well intact, and there is no issue. What we are seeing here is a combination of low volume and low fixed cost degradation or absorption.

This will be here the low point, and with the increase in the revenues, this will change. For the moment, we're seeing underutilization in the assembly part of the projects in Material Solutions.

As I explained, we're currently more in the engineering phase, and this will change, and then also the margins will improve here.

Hartmut Moers

Yeah. With regard to the Metrology side, did you also experience a decline in gross margin, or has gross margin increased with the rather strong increase in sales?

Carl Markus Groß

No, the margins are on a regular level here. We are seeing that they are where we would expect them.

There is no degradation or reduction at that point.

Hartmut Moers

Thank you very much.

Carl Markus Groß

You're welcome.

Sebastian Gonsior

All right, thank you. Bastian Brach is next.

Bastian Brach

Thank you for taking the questions. It's one for me and it's about the North American market and development there.

We had order intake at 10% in Q1 in 2025, a little bit over 10%. In the past, you talked about increasing the share of the US business in your group, expand partnerships, etc.

How do you see the current developments there and going forward also into 2027?

Jalin Ketter

That's a good question because I'm actually on-site, yeah. This is the reason why we want to further strategically open the market for us.

We already made a lot of progress on semiconductor markets to increase activities on the Metrology side, on the Material Solutions side. We are working also on other fields, so that takes time to further identify the customers, to open the doors at customers, and get qualified with our technology.

We are awaiting a steady increase in that market, which will contribute to the order book. Also in 2026, we will see a higher portion from the US already.

Bastian Brach

Okay. Thank you very much.

Sebastian Gonsior

All right, thank you. Edwin de Jong, please.

Edwin de Jong

All right. Can you hear me?

Carl Markus Groß

Yes, morning.

Jalin Ketter

Yes, good morning.

Edwin de Jong

Thank you for taking my questions. Maybe on the Metrology side, I think we've talked a lot about qualification and first orders in Metrology for you guys.

How is the situation at the moment? Hey, you are qualified in the US, you are qualified in Taiwan, I guess, and also in Korea.

Are the orders that are coming now, are they more for let's say pilot production, and when would you really expect the high-volume orders? Or are they already in there?

Jalin Ketter

In the first quarter, we already had orders which are not only pilot production anymore. This is already reaching into that inline inspection where we are moving into the fab.

Especially on the HBM side, where we had some nice orders in the first quarter, which are reaching into 2027. Also in the logic side, we are starting to get orders which are also in the fab.

Edwin de Jong

Okay.

Jalin Ketter

In Korea, we are making further progress with bringing systems in, yeah. First system has been finally delivered to customer and is moved into the fab.

Steady positive contribution on that level as well.

Edwin de Jong

Yeah. I guess that acceleration is continuing in that part, right?

In the Metrology, yeah.

Jalin Ketter

Yes.

Edwin de Jong

Then on the Material Solutions side, maybe starting with the order intake, hey, the order it was really strong, Q1, of course. Can you give a little bit of an idea of what the composition is?

What part is, let's say, really the synthesis, silicon carbide, silicon, and what part is more the diffusion bonders, brazing business, that kind of stuff. Can you give a little bit of color on that?

Jalin Ketter

Most activities are coming from material synthesis and compound semiconductor solutions.

Edwin de Jong

Okay.

Jalin Ketter

It's a mixture between them.

Edwin de Jong

Silicon carbide, silicon is within the synthesis, is more or less 50/50, or is it more silicon carbide at the moment?

Jalin Ketter

It's compound semiconductors, which means as a compound semiconductor, say silicon carbide, indium phosphide, calcium fluoride, these are the activities where we are in.

Edwin de Jong

Great to see that you have already won orders for Indian phosphide. I guess that is really a market that should pick up.

The orders that you have, are they for delivery already in 2026, or is it 2027?

Jalin Ketter

Both, small portion in 2026 and most of it 2027.

Edwin de Jong

Great. That's really good to hear.

Finally on the material side, I guess the Q4 acceleration more in the expected order intake, does that have something to do with your largest customer there in silicon? Or should I see that in a different way?

Jalin Ketter

You mean 2026?

Edwin de Jong

Exactly, yeah. Q4 2026, yeah.

Jalin Ketter

What we expect in Q4 2026 is a larger contribution on the Metrology side, as the investment phase that we are expecting, and that we are getting forecasted from our customers, is starting to support the developments and the move-ins in 2027.

Edwin de Jong

Okay. Clear.

Then finally, and then I'll leave the floor to other questions. I'm seeing at the moment a big move also into power chips.

Let's say, and of course, for you guys, that's also a big business especially with gallium nitride, indium phosphide, silicon carbide. Can you give a little bit of an idea of how your interactions are with, let's say, the data center side versus the automotive side and in that developments?

Jalin Ketter

The activities that we lately did get into the books from the silicon carbide side have been more related to that already established markets. What we are in discussion with different customers and different locations is that new applications, which are also going into direction that you mentioned, yeah.

Edwin de Jong

Okay.

Jalin Ketter

It's nothing there yet, but it's something that we are in discussion with.

Edwin de Jong

You're seeing a lot of traction in the market, I guess, hey? In that part.

Okay. All right, thank you very much.

Jalin Ketter

Thank you.

Sebastian Gonsior

Thank you. Maïssa Keskes, please.

Maïssa Keskes

Can you hear me?

Carl Markus Groß

Yes, good morning.

Maïssa Keskes

Good morning. Thank you for taking my question.

Jalin Ketter

Good morning.

Maïssa Keskes

Based on the discussion that you have with your customer so far, do you still expect some orders that will be recorded in Q2 and Q3 in Metrology will be delivered in '27? Do you still expect customer to further secure capacity for '27 in the upcoming quarters?

Jalin Ketter

Yes, there is a different approach between the customers. On several we are getting reliable forecasts where we are working with and orders when we are heading to move in the systems.

On other sides, we are working with already orders that we are receiving, yeah. This is a very diverse field where customers are handling the situation differently.

Maïssa Keskes

Okay.

Jalin Ketter

Of course, there can be more orders in 2026 which are related to 2027 again, yeah.

Maïssa Keskes

Okay. Regarding the indium phosphide, how many equipments have been recorded in the orders in Q1 2026, and do you still expect more orders to come in the course of the year?

Jalin Ketter

We already have a smaller amount of orders for indium phosphide, which is related in 20 in Q1, and we expect further traction in the order book during the year.

Maïssa Keskes

Okay. What kind of customer are you addressing in indium phosphide?

Jalin Ketter

It's related to the activities due to the communication of data centers or between data centers. We cannot disclose on single customers in that case.

Maïssa Keskes

Okay. Regarding the opex, how do you see the opex development going forward?

Still some restructuring costs expected for the upcoming quarter? Do you see maybe the EBIT that will be another time negative in Q2 before a gradual increase in H2?

Carl Markus Groß

In general, we're seeing that our opex are now at the level we deem as given for the year, there will be no sharp increases or anything further. We don't expect negative EBITDAs in the upcoming quarters.

We're seeing that we are well on track to fulfill our guidance of 26 to 31 million in EBITDA, and this will become visible in the next quarters.

Maïssa Keskes

Nice. Thank you so much.

Carl Markus Groß

You're welcome.

Sebastian Gonsior

All right, thank you. Then we have a question from Apos Capital, which I assume is Johannes Ries, correct?

Johannes Ries

Yes, that's right. Johannes Ries.

Good morning.

Jalin Ketter

Good morning.

Carl Markus Groß

Morning.

Johannes Ries

Three questions from my side. If you're looking to the news flow of the latest months, your potential customer in semiconductors clearly maybe raised their expectation because their customers, especially from the AI side, has heavily raised their capex plans, especially at the advanced packaging, take TSMC with CoWoS, but also Intel with a solution increasing heavily their forecasts and investments.

At HBM on the other side, at the memory side, it's the same. I think this expectation had not been maybe the base for your original plan.

If all these things are happening and you are coming with your metrology solutions in this new fabs and new lines, could it be maybe that the demand could be even higher than you originally thought as you built this plan with the 500 million?

Jalin Ketter

Okay. We already mentioned in the first quarter that we see that the market is bigger than we originally expected, but we will stay with that expectation of a market share of 30 to 40% in that regard.

Of course, we did not include yet that further announcements of capacity needs, which is not included in that yet. It can be higher than we expect, but we for now stay with the targets that we set.

Johannes Ries

As you always said in the past, the year '28 is not so maybe the final point. There could be further growth beyond this year,

Jalin Ketter

no? We want to participate on that market on a long run and not only until that date.

We are happy when the market is steadily increasing, and we also can move in our system after 2028, of course.

Johannes Ries

Yeah. Maybe although I think I asked it, but I have not in my head 100%.

Your solution is independent if it's used for level-based or panel-level based advanced packaging?

Jalin Ketter

It's both. It's front-end related.

It's wafer-level related, and it's also panel-level related.

Johannes Ries

Okay.

Jalin Ketter

We are active in all the three areas.

Johannes Ries

Also not in the back end only, also in the front-end space

Jalin Ketter

Yes.

Johannes Ries

with ultrasonic, okay. Also you have two other smaller solutions.

One is optical for maybe barrier too early to might make sense inspection for the wafer. You're also working on radiology solution.

When we could expect maybe a ramp-up of these two solutions, and they are also maybe eyes on the cake compared to your expectations you published, is that right?

Jalin Ketter

On the optical side, we are on an earlier stage than on the ultrasound side. This is something where we will this year already see first contracts with customers.

We are at the moment moving in systems to R&D centers, and are getting first signs or reflection from the market. We expect that they will contribute then more significant in 2027.

Johannes Ries

Super. Finally, on the iridium phosphide, can you give us a feeling one solution or one machine, how you call it, what is the average price?

Is it higher than maybe a solution for silicon carbide?

Jalin Ketter

Yes, it's more in the direction of silicon.

Johannes Ries

That means around 10 million or what?

Jalin Ketter

That's too high.

Johannes Ries

A

Jalin Ketter

one-digit million, a low one-digit million.

Johannes Ries

Thanks a lot. That answers all my questions.

Thanks.

Sebastian Gonsior

Thank you. All right, and then we have Michael Kuhn.

Michael Kuhn

Good morning. Thanks for taking my question.

Essentially one follow-up. Do you have any silicon crystal growth order in the backlog currently?

Jalin Ketter

Of course, we are still executing silicon crystal orders.

Michael Kuhn

All right. That was already the question.

Thank you.

Sebastian Gonsior

All right, thank you so much everyone for joining. Before we close the call, I would now still like to hand over to Jalin for some closing remarks.

Jalin Ketter

Thanks everyone for your questions and for participating in that call. As you saw, with these orders we received, we are achieving a new milestone again, yeah.

This is the result of the effort of the strategic development over the last two years that we have done with the company and which was caused by the work of the whole team, and the whole team will further continue with that execution. Thanks for listening today and your interest in PVA.

I'm looking forward for the next call, and I can say now good night.

Sebastian Gonsior

Good night, Jalin.