Operator
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the full year 2024/2025 financial results conference call. I am Sandra, the Chorus Call operator.
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Kyrill Turchaninov
Thank you. Hello everybody, and we will be starting our presentation with the highlights of the '24/'25 financial year.
We will go over quickly over the entire year, and events which happened since we presented our 9-month results in August, because there obviously have been some important developments. We can now turn to page 4, where we have a short summary of the main points of the financial year.
The results we are comparing are year-on-year, the financial year '24/'25 versus the financial year '23/'24. Rental income decreased to €70 million predominantly, mostly due to the asset sales which we have done during the financial year.
FFO, a major indicator and KPI for us, decreased by about €15.6 million to €12.3 million, which is a substantial decrease. However, this decrease is mainly driven by the sale of assets, net results, impact on FFO is €8.5 million, as well as other major variance versus the last year is the so-called net interest.
Now net interest has obviously interest expense, as well as interest income, the net amount affecting the FFO was €4.6 million. However, in standalone Q3 of the financial year, our FFO was €1.9 million euros, and in the last quarter, Q4, which ended obviously on 30/09, our FFO was €2.4 million.
During the year, we have reduced debt by about €78 million, corresponding to roughly 14% year-on-year. That was driven by a number of things.
We sold, we sold properties with a total volume of €34 million, and a major impact came from conversion of €37 million of convertible bonds, which happened mostly earlier in the financial year. As we have already reported previously, especially more with more detail in our report for 9 months, which we did in August, the company is in a restructuring process.
We will have a special slide for this, and I will go in more details later. However, the restructuring obviously costs, and we had legal and consulting costs, which are directly restructuring costs, of €3 million.
We also had additional costs which were charged to the company by the lenders, as customarily in such restructuring process, when we are asking lenders to restructure the loans. Obviously they incur some costs, and they charge us specific fees.
Those amounted to roughly €5.5 million. An important event which took place in the first quarter of the year, of the financial year, was a repayment by Obotritia of its entire principal debt amount of €38 million.
There is an outstanding receivable of 16—of about €16 million still due from Obotritia. It is fully provided for, which means we have booked a provision, a financial provision against this debt, and it is supposed to be repaid by the end of December this year.
Loan-to-value is almost unchanged compared to the prior year. We have again not met the REIT equity ratio requirement of 45%, and again, I will say a few words about this later on in the presentation.
A big impact to our financial result came from a valuation impairment or revaluation adjustment of almost €70 million. We did report about a substantial devaluation of our portfolio.
We do an annual valuation by an external appraiser. This year, we actually did two valuations.
One was the major one on 30/06, which resulted in about €47 million of devaluation, and we also made an update for the at the end of the year on 30/09, which added another about €22 million. That obviously had a significant impact on our financial result.
The cost of debt is expectedly higher at roughly 4.5%. We have decided to give a range in terms of the guidance for rental income for for the next financial year, and that would be between €58 million and €63 million.
We are not providing any FFO guidance due to restructuring process, and as we mentioned in a few occasions, a major element of the restructuring process, obviously in addition to the debt-to-equity swap, is going to be a sale of assets. Since we do not know exactly which assets at what period of time we'll dispose of, the FFO guidance at this time is rather difficult.
The focus will remain on finalization of restructuring plan in the sense that we will be implementing an already finished and agreed with the lenders restructuring opinion, and obviously improving the portfolio performance. We can now turn to the next page, which is page 5, where we recap mostly what we did already the last time we presented the results.
The need for restructuring, the need for the engagement of FTI-Andersch AG as a restructuring expert, the need for the preparation of the restructuring opinion was predominantly driven by two factors. One is the sheer volume of maturities historically aggregated so that the volume of maturities in '25 was originally very substantial, over €200 million.
Once we entered the discussions with the lenders to restructure those mature those those obligations, it was clear that they require a formal restructuring process, which includes the preparation of the restructuring opinion. We, as I mentioned, engaged FTI-Andersch to do that, and the final version was completed as well as presented to the lenders, completed on the 1st of September, and communicated to the lenders shortly after that.
What helped us on the way and what supported us is the bridge financing, which we agreed earlier in the year with an amount of up to €18 million at 5.5% interest. We have also entered into a restructuring agreement with Vivion, and we concluded an investment agreement with the holders of the convertible bonds, the entire amount of those instruments of up to €120 million will be taking part in the debt-to-equity swap.
Now that signaled and that obviously once implemented, that is a very serious support for our company. It will improve obviously the KPIs, as debt will be converted to equity, LTV and capital ratios will certainly change.
Now that debt carried a substantial interest for the most part of this year, which will obviously help us as that will reduce our interest expense. The assets which were used as a security for those for those loans, for those instruments, will be freed up and will become available again to the company.
The message to other lenders was very positive, and the original restructuring opinion restructuring plan envisaged a substantially higher sales volume in order to cover our obligations. Now we are talking about up to €300 million to be sold by the end, or latest by the end of September '27.
The lenders went along and supported the restructuring opinion, and they did this with extension of the maturities of their claims or we have entered into comparable arrangements with the lenders. The debt-to-equity swap was approved by a majority vote, well, 99-point-something percent vote, by the Extraordinary General Meeting, and I will say a few words about this later.
Now during restructuring period, and that was also requested by the lenders that FTI-Andersch stays on board and supports us in terms of reporting the progress, and basically confirming to the lenders that the company is staying on the restructuring plan. This is a crucial element, which will be doing regularly with bank reporting over the next 2 years.
We can now move on to page 6, where we put some details together about the Extraordinary General Meeting that took place on the 4th of December. There were a few items on the on the agenda for that meeting, and the most important one is obviously the debt-to-equity swap.
We have some details in terms of, not not number the the exact number of liabilities to be used is about €118 million. There are subscription rights, and obviously there will be increase in the share capital accordingly to up to €125 million.
As I mentioned, once executed, the KPIs of the company will be substantially improved. However, some recorded objections to the agenda items at meeting might lead to legal challenges and affect the further schedule.
However, the majority, as I mentioned already, more than 99% of the present votes approved the measures. The fact that the company did not meet the requirements of the REIT law for the third time in a year, and that is the statutory equity ratio of 45%, basically means that the company is going to lose or actually has already lost as of the 1st of October the tax exemption.
We expected that that is going to happen, and by the way, as also in the past, we have prepared our financial statements as if we are fully taxed. There is not going to be any adverse tax impact because of the loss of the tax exemption, and we prepared for that.
That is also reflected, full taxation going forward, in the restructuring plan. We are expected to change the name of the company to the Deutsche Konsum Real Estate AG.
Now we can skip a couple of slides and move on to the portfolio details, which we have on page 9. We have disposed of a number of properties, well, 16 actually, with a total square meters of 36,000 square meters.
Now the volume of sales was 34, and obviously that had an impact on our total fair value. The biggest impact, as I already mentioned, on the total fair value was the devaluation result of almost €70 million.
Now, in terms of vacancy rate, it is slightly higher than in the prior year. However, there is a some development on the vacancy rate, which is, well, a little bit of good news.
We had, last time we reported in August, our vacancy rate was 14.9%, and it is now 14.2%. Now the the difference is obviously not that much.
However, the entire reduction of vacancy is due to basically two things: we have leased up number of vacant spaces of about 5.7 thousand square meters, but also the assets which were we were selling were not 100% leased. A small number of, about 1,200 square meters of vacancy was in those assets which we which were disposed during the year.
That is reflected in a total annualized portfolio rent, which is 67.1, there are a few moving parts behind that number and the variance to prior year, obviously sales impacted that, and the assets we sold had annualized rent of about €2.7 million, and there were some other movements, end-of-rent free periods, where obviously we had higher rents. Now we can again skip a couple of slides and move to page 11, where we present the tenant structure of the portfolio.
It didn't change in terms of the percentage of rent contribution from cyclical and non-cyclical tenants versus last time, all those non-cyclical tenants are stable versus last quarter, and they contribute €44 million of annualized rents. Those rents which we have, they are 85% of rents are linked to the CPI, so that pretty much stayed the same versus last quarter, or maybe slightly higher.
Then almost half of rental contracts are over 5 years long, so that gives us a certain security or certain assurances in terms of the rent flows in the near future. We should now move on to page on financing, which is page 14, where we present the maturity profile of our financial obligations by financial year.
In the graphical representation, we can see that in '25/'26 financial year, there are no maturities, which is obviously the result of the finalization of the restructuring opinion and restructuring plan, where all the maturities were moved to September '27. That means obviously that in the year '26/'27, we have a substantial number of maturities coming up for repayment.
One note here is that that number which we show and obviously split by the annuity loans, amortizing loans loans, and promissory bonds promissory notes and corporate bonds, that number in '26/'27 does not include €118 million of obligations taking part in the debt-to-equity swap. It is assumed that the debt-to-equity swap will take place.
However, those instruments are formally prolonged to at least September '27. The total financial debt which we show here, which is €471 million, does include those financial instruments.
As expected, total cost of debt is higher than in the prior year. LTV, I mentioned before, it's almost flat, and the interest coverage ratio last year, at the end of the financial year '24, with a rather high number, predominantly was impacted by Obotritia developments, which obviously are not present in this financial year.
Now overall, perhaps to recap and close the presentation part and to open for questions, the important thing is for the company is that we have successfully concluded the restructuring opinion, that all the lenders agreed to support the restructuring measures. Now we have to obviously execute on the restructuring plan by by obviously asset sales, and also improving the the key numbers on the property side.
There are some small steps already made on the vacancy and the management on the vacancy improvement, and the management will continue in this direction. We will now open for questions.
Operator
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Sorry to interrupt, we have now a registration from Olaf Preis from OK Consult. Please go ahead.
Mm-hmm.
Thank you very much for being able to ask a question. I understood that on the General Meeting there was some kind of statement by the VBL about how many shares they wished to acquire.
Is it as many as they are obliged to by their own statement or is it as many as they can? From my point of view, the difference is about 15 million shares.
Can you say anything about that?
Kyrill Turchaninov
Yes. Now the entire number of shares which we currently have is, well, round number, 50 million 351,000.
Now the company's share capital can be increased by up to 75.5 million additionally to a total of 125.8 million shares. It is expected that Vivion, well, actually it is agreed, that Vivion will use its entire receivables against us, against Deutsche Konsum REIT, in a debt-to-equity swap.
In that case, they will obviously receive shares equal to 80 85 86 million times the €2. Divided by €2, obviously.
So 43 million shares basically? The entire number of shares, let me backtrack on this.
The entire number of liabilities from our side, or receivables from the lender's side, is €118 million. Of that, €108 million is, about €108 million is Vivion.
Now if we divide 108 by 2, we have 54 million shares.
54, okay. Mm-hmm.
That means all that they are obliged, not all they can, because the rights to receive shares will not be traded, basically there will be no dilution for share owners that don't execute their right to receive shares, and VBL is not executing their right to take these shares as well.
Kyrill Turchaninov
There will be dilution because we will issue shares, but only Vivion— Of course.
The additional amount. Basically, they are taking these 54 million that they have basically already subscribed, but no additional ones on top, which they could take, that's what's questionable.
Kyrill Turchaninov
They are not expected to be taken any shares on top of what we just mentioned. Okay.
Honestly, with the shares trading way a lot below the capital increase price, I suppose the free float is not going to take many apparently, yeah? Basically the debt-to-equity swap is the dilution, period.
Kyrill Turchaninov
Yeah. I cannot possibly comment on how the shares will be trading.
However, you're correct, there will be dilution once the debt-to-equity swap is executed.
Okay. Regarding the costs, I had assumed that the cost of restructuring, they are mainly your advisors.
You mentioned €5.5 million of costs incurred by the lenders. Is that penalty fees or their advisors, or what is that?
In relation to the debt, €5.5 million is not a cappuccino, actually.
Kyrill Turchaninov
Yes. We have restructured, as we mentioned, about a bit more than 200.
The lenders were very different. We had, and still have obviously, the secured bonds, well, the secured corporate bonds, those held by Vivion obviously.
We have convertible bonds. We have unsecured promissory notes.
We certainly have the amortizing loans and maturing loans. The fees were a few categories: the legal fees, which varied by lender, those we unfortunately had to agree to reimburse.
The fees were also for restructuring the loan itself, there is customarily unfortunately also fees which the banks charge and are sometimes, substantial number, because of the, well, perceived, I would say, damage due to the delay of repayment. All of that amounted to that number.
We do provide a bit more details in our notes to the financial statements, which we have published earlier today.
Okay. Is that past pain, or do you expect further similar costs for '26 in addition to the costs of the capital increase?
Kyrill Turchaninov
No. This is pretty much in terms of restructuring itself, this is it.
With the production of the restructuring opinion, the so-called IDW S6, the FTI-Andersch is completed the bulk of the work. However, as I mentioned previously, the majority of lenders required a reporting, a regular monthly and quarterly reporting done unfortunately not by us, but by restructuring expert, FTI-Andersch.
FTI-Andersch will stay on board at obviously much more reduced capacity, and will provide the reports to the banks as stipulated in all those extension and restructuring agreements we have entered into with the banks.
Thanks. That's helpful.
Can you give any rough ballpark figure how high these recurring costs will be? Will that be kind of a seven-digit figure or a high six-digit figure annually for the coming 3 years, or what kind of dimension can I expect from that?
Kyrill Turchaninov
Here is what we expect. Until and including September '27, monthly reporting is going to be done, as I mentioned, by FTI-Andersch, as well as a quarterly reporting.
Now quarterly reporting, certainly we do quarterly reporting ourselves, so that is not terribly time-consuming on the side of FTE. The monthly reporting is a little bit different.
However, and this is just an estimate based on what we already did in October, for example, between €25,000 and €30,000 per month.
A 300k a year roughly, something like that.
Kyrill Turchaninov
Perhaps.
Then the large number for past pain. Thank you very much, very helpful.
Kyrill Turchaninov
You're welcome, of course.
Operator
For any further question, please press * followed by 1. The next question comes from Vincent Bruyère from DPAM.
Please go ahead.
Vincent Bruyère
Yes. Good morning.
Do you hear me?
Kyrill Turchaninov
Yes.
Vincent Bruyère
I would like to know if you are invested in the company you are managing. Do you have shares of the company?
Kyrill Turchaninov
I personally do not have shares in Deutsche Konsum REIT.
Vincent Bruyère
Okay. Second question goes about corporate governance.
Could you explain if Rolf Elgeti is still in the board or not, and his position and his influence?
Kyrill Turchaninov
Of course. On the 1st of April this year, an Annual General Meeting took place.
Mr. Elgeti did not provide his candidature for the nomination to the Supervisory Board.
Therefore, he was not anymore elected to the Supervisory Board. Instead, and well, Antje Lubitz also was not elected to the Supervisory Board, instead two other people were elected to the Supervisory Board, and [past?]
. As to the Rolf Elgeti, he does not have any official position.
Obviously, he is not member of the Supervisory Board, he is not member of the Management Board since quite a long time. There is no operational or any other control or relationship between the company and Mr.
Rolf Elgeti, with one exception—well, actually with two exceptions, if I may. One is the big one, and this is the €16 million of accumulated interest which we still have as a receivable against Obotritia.
I mentioned this early in the presentation. The second, which we obviously disclose in our financial statements, is a very small business which we have with one of the companies in the Obotritia structure in terms of leasing rooftop space for the photovoltaic arrangements, which is a really small amount, €2,000 to €3,000 a year.
These are the only relations we have.
Vincent Bruyère
Okay. Last question goes about valuation.
When do you see you are going to find the trough, the bottom, of the valuation of the portfolio by appraisers?
Kyrill Turchaninov
Our valuation of our assets is done by CBRE. Now obviously they are using discounted cash flow methodology.
There is a discount rate, there are market comparables, there are a number of factors which go into valuation of real estate assets. Greatly depends on how the interest rates develop in the future.
In terms of our specific portfolio, because I cannot possibly speculate on the market developments in 6 months, in terms of our specific portfolio, the measures we are taking, and that is investing, improving the value of the assets—sometimes investing is necessary to just keep the value of the assets at the current level—but also working methodically, carefully, painfully also with our new property and asset manager, GPEP, in terms of reducing the vacancy and increasing weighted average lease terms, all that should have a positive effect on the valuation of portfolio. I cannot possibly say where is the bottom.
Vincent Bruyère
Okay. Thank you very much.
Kyrill Turchaninov
You're welcome.
Operator
Ladies and gentlemen, that was the last question. I would now like to turn the conference back over to Kyrill Turchaninov for any closing remarks.
Kyrill Turchaninov
Thank you. As I mentioned, this was a challenging financial year, and we as the management of the company are grateful and thankful for the support we have been receiving from the shareholders and obviously the lenders who have supported the restructuring plan.
We do have quite some work ahead of us. We hope for continued support, and I thank you for your attention during this call.
We will close the call now. Thank you.
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