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Q1 FY2026 · Earnings Call TranscriptMay 6, 2026

Moderator

Good afternoon and a warm welcome to everybody. Welcome to RATIONAL's earnings call for the first quarter of the fiscal year 2026.

The results will be presented by the CEO, Dr. Peter Stadelmann, and the CFO, Jörg Walter.

Thanks to everyone who submitted questions to RATIONAL AG ahead of this event. We will post them in the chat box in a few moments for your convenience and to avoid potential duplications.

Should you have additional questions during the presentations that have not been asked before, please feel free to submit them and we'll address them all in the Q&A. This will be recorded, and you will be able to access the call later on on ResearchHub and on the RATIONAL IR page.

With all this in mind, I will now hand it over to you, Peter, and thanks everybody for joining.

Peter Stadelmann

Thank you very much. Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen.

I would like to start our Q1 call with a short video on a customer in the USA. As there we have our biggest potential probably for the next decades and a lot of work to do.

Coastal Orange Beach is an expansive outdoor dining venue designed to accommodate up to 1,200 guests at a time. During peak season they handle between 4 to 7,000 à la carte covers daily, which is of course a huge challenge and requires careful planning.

The kitchen of Coastal is nearly 100% RATIONAL with 21 Combi Pro and 2 iVario Pro units. Let's listen to the corporate chef himself.

Christopher Dickens

We all have the same common why, and that's what drives us all: the unwavering pursuit of perfection. My name's Christopher Dickens, and I'm the corporate executive chef for Island Entertainment in Orange Beach, Alabama.

We're at our Coastal Orange Beach location. Coastal's unique because of the culture of it.

I know that might sound a little cheesy and cliché, but it is. Being on this island and having this island life is important, and that's what makes us different.

We really like to focus on the bounty of the sea. We've got some great partnerships that allow us to bring in some beautiful seafood.

The freshness of it is really what sets us apart. We have 6 months that it's absolutely insane, and 6 months that we get to enjoy the beaches and put our feet up a little bit.

So, 6 months out of the year, I like to call it extreme high volume. We're a 1,200-seat restaurant.

On average during season, we see somewhere between 4,000 and 7,000 covers a day in an à la carte setting. RATIONAL has had a tremendous impact on our operations from day one.

When you're in a concept that's this massive and this big, that's a huge load on a kitchen that most places don't get to see. Being able to stay fast and efficient while being consistent at the exact same time has been gold for us.

Our main kitchen here at Coastal Orange Beach is a 100% RATIONAL kitchen. We have around 20 to 21 units, all of our hotline operations are performed either in the iCombis or in the iVarios, and then the same goes for all of our prepped items in the back.

It's given us a level of consistency that we've never seen across any of our properties. We haven't found anything that the RATIONALs don't do well.

The fact that we can produce something as delicate as an egg and then turn right back around and do a 26-ounce bone-in ribeye and do it perfectly every time is absolutely amazing. With the iVario, we're able to do a lot of submersive cooking, be able to produce all of our stocks, all of our sauces, to know that when we're in a pinch, we can get 26 gallons of water from ambient temperature to a rolling boil in 3-plus minutes.

That's a safety net that you don't get anywhere else. We allow our chefs the creativity based off what's available.

Not only do the chefs get to play around, we also let the students play around with the units. RATIONAL is committed to education just like we are.

We're part of the PIE program, which is Partners in Education, not only advancing kitchens through technology, but also helping to educate the next generation of culinarians, and we've been able to change a lot of lives. Definitely a leap of faith on the ownership's part to make such a significant investment.

The return on investment was exponential and it was extremely fast. It's reduced our labor footprint tremendously.

We couldn't have pulled that off without the RATIONAL units. It's a necessity for us to continue to operate at the high volume that we do and continue to be successful doing so.

We want to be the best. We want to deliver something exceptional to every single individual that walks on this property.

We're only limited by our imaginations. If we can dream it, those RATIONALs can do it.

Peter Stadelmann

Yes. What I like most is, "We haven't found anything that RATIONALs don't do well."

You heard Christopher himself talking about the efficiency gains and the high benefits they got from our equipment. That is why we call our cooking solutions multifunctional.

They manage almost all kind of food, customers do no longer need additional specialized equipment. With that comes big savings, of course, in investment, in operating costs, in space, energy, and, of course, also in complexity in operating that kitchen.

Our great multifunctional and smart cooking systems, of course, deliver the benefits to our customers. Given that huge potential we have not only in the USA, but also on a global level, the question simply is, how do we turn that into sales?

Christopher also mentioned education. This is very important to understand our way to market.

We employ more than 630 former chefs in our sales force. They did more than 335,000 visits in 2025.

That is more than 1,500 visits every weekday where our regional sales managers inform and educate potential end customers about the benefits they would enjoy with our equipment. None of our competitor is doing that, nor has one the resources and skills to do that, even those being 10 times bigger than us.

To build up that capacities would take years. Our business model and our way to market is unique.

For us, this is how we create the pull effect from the market, from the end customer, for our products and services. As you see in the chart here, we are back on track of constantly increasing the number of salespeople, as you can see here.

With more people on the street, we will get more visits, and then, finally, more leads for more sales. That's it.

This is why we are less impacted by external turbulences because we take charge of our own sales force to the end customers and not only rely on dealers. Some of those external turbulences emerged in recent weeks.

We would like to briefly comment on them. I start with US tariffs.

We did reclaim the tariffs that were not lawfully levied. Those amounts to more than $16 million.

Our products are now facing a 25% tariff with regards to Section 232. This leads to slightly higher costs expected for 2026.

That impact will be softened by the extra income from tariff refunds in Q2 2026. How the customer situation will develop remains to be seen and is difficult to predict.

We all noticed the new announcements from President Trump over the weekend with higher tariffs for European cars, for example. Again, we will wait and see.

The second turbulence is the Iran war. To date, we have not had any significant negative impact on our business.

The teams in the affected countries are safe. They are working remotely.

Customer activities have been reduced or canceled until further notice. We all hope for a soon termination of this conflict.

The influence on the cost situation is also difficult to estimate at the given time. Let's have a look at our good results and more details.

I would like to start with sales revenues. In the first 3 months into 2026, we achieved €318 million in sales.

That is plus 11% organically and 8% after FX effects against Q1 2025. The US dollar was the main reason for that with an unfavorable year-on-year comparison effect versus Q1 2025 when the US dollar was unusually strong.

We expect negative currency impacts to soften out during the year. We, for the first time, exceeded the €300 million in sales in the first quarter.

As we slightly increased prices in the USA on February 1st, early in the quarter, we do not expect pre-ordering to have had a relevant impact on growth. That means that Q1, as normal, was a new all-time high.

Far, we expect normal seasonality also for 2026. That means we will have two slightly higher Qs and then a very strong Q4 at the end of the year.

Sales and, of course, EBIT will increase now from quarter to quarter. All in all, we are very happy with the start into 2026.

With that, I hand over to Jörg for more insights.

Jörg Walter

Yes, thank you very much, Peter, and also a warm welcome to this call from my side. Let me now turn to our sales revenues by region in this first quarter.

Overall, you see it clearly that the revenue was driven by Americas and Europe, while the developments in Asia and the rest of world were more mixed. This is a quite normal situation for Q1 numbers since numbers are really based only on 3 months and the fluctuations are a bit higher than what we usually expect for the full-year numbers.

Let's start with Germany. Here, we delivered a very positive growth of 11%, confirming a solid demand in our home market.

On top of this solid demand, we had a special effect from one stock-holding dealer that did not order in Q4 and now placed a quite high order in Q1, so that is influencing this 11%. We are expecting that in the coming months, this will level out a bit and the total growth rate for Germany will be on a lower level.

In Europe except Germany, revenues increased by 8% over the year, and growth was really across all the markets and regions. We saw a very strong momentum in several Southern and Northern European countries, including in Iberia, in Scandinavia, in Switzerland, in Austria, and those markets, they all could compensated for weaker trends in a few isolated markets, such as Turkey or in Benelux.

Overall, Europe remains our biggest region, very stable and reliable growth contributor, like we saw for the full year last year. North America, once again, showed a very strong performance.

Revenue grew by 11%, mainly driven by the United States. We saw there growth of 13%, and that was just a very, very solid, yeah, customer demand.

We saw the reference story just, and I think that is a very good example what we really can do in the US for our customers. We had a very substantial currency effect here.

As you remember, the dollar devaluated last year starting in April, year-over-year for the first quarter, we have a quite high currency effect. Just to mention, before currency, we had a growth as 23%, a very, very momentum—strong momentum in the region.

Peter just already mentioned, we do not think that there is a high impact from the from the price increases because that was really done in February, and there shouldn't be a special spillover to the second quarter or to the last quarter last year. Now turning to Asia.

Here we have a revenue decline by 3%. That was mainly driven by a decline in China.

We saw a certain, I would say, reluctance to buy in the light of the launch event that we just had for the new iCombi 1 just after the Chinese New Year, and that was just happening in March. I think the total use to understand our customer what we are doing with the iCombi 1 hasn't been, let's say, communicated in a broad manner.

That's why the Chinese ordering in the first one was still on a lower level. However, that was partially offset by solid growth rates in Japan, in India, and in Korea.

The smaller regions, LATAM and rest of world, I don't want to comment too much on it, as I as I said in the beginning, just 3 months are not enough and that will level out throughout the full year. Looking at the development of the product we product groups, you know that we usually expect the iVario to grow at the double growth rate compared to the iCombi.

Here in Q1, we already have a triple growth rate, but also here, it's the same true. It's only the 3 months, and as I said, I mentioned this one dealer in Germany that placed the high order.

In the end, we are also expecting here that the iVario growth rate will level out during the coming year. Let me turn to the development of our EBIT.

In the first quarter 2026, EBIT increased by 5% year-over-year at €76 million. At the same time, the EBIT margin came in at 23.9%, which is a slight decrease compared to previous year.

Two comments here. The Q1 last year had a strong—this is a strong comparison.

As you remember, the FX effect were not part of the Q1 last year. The tariffs were not part of Q1 last year.

In that light, I think the EBIT margin in Q1 this year is quite strong. Secondly, also, as that we already have a slightly decline of the margin in our outlook for the full year, and that is corresponds also here to the right numbers in Q1.

Now let me walk you through our profitability development in the first quarter. We already talked about sales, plus a solid plus 8%.

Cost of goods sold increased by 12%, which is above the sales growth and resulted in a gross margin decline of 155 basis points to 57.6%. This development was expected by us, it's not a surprise, and it's mainly driven by these two factors, that is FX again and certainly also the US tariffs, that had a quite big impact.

As a result, gross profit increased only by 5%, but as I said, this is around the level that also we expected, we are fully in our plan. Looking at our operating expenses, we saw that targeted increase of 5% year-on-year also in Q1.

The growth was clearly focused on our strategic priorities, R&D expenses increased by 8%, reflecting our continued investment into the future and innovation and future product platforms. Also, sales and service costs increased by 5%, mainly to support our customer-facing activities.

Peter also mentioned how important that is. At the same time, we were able again to reduce our administrative expenses by 2% to level off the total OPEX effect to a 5% that perfectly fits to the gross profit development.

As a result, also, the EBIT is high on a on a higher 5%. I think maintaining the EBIT margin as a strong 24% is a good result for Q1.

A very quick look into the balance sheet. I don't want to comment too much on it as you all know it, how how solid is it is.

Just maybe one short view on the the equity. You see that also now in equity, for the first time in history, we surpassed or we exactly hit the €1 billion.

I remember, I think, 2 or 3 years ago, total assets were surpassing €1 billion. Now we're even able to surpass or to reach the €1 billion level in equity.

As that is only a temporary effect. We will pay out the dividend in May.

That will will lower the equity again. It is just a snapshot in history, but with our growth growth story, I think we will come back to a €1 billion equity level soon again.

With that, I'm I would like to conclude with our revenue and earnings outlook for the full financial year. The economic outlook of the commercial kitchen industry remains unchanged.

Unchanged means positive. The out-of-home market is growing.

The food service market is growing. The challenges of shortage of skilled labor or the challenges with rising costs, the need for our solutions, automated and efficient solutions such as such as the iCombis or iVarios, they are high.

Therefore, we expect in 2026 to be another year of growth for us, and we expect to continue our long-term revenue growth trend in the mid to high single-digit percentage range. Regarding the gross margin, we already saw we stabilized the gross margin in recent years.

Currently, raw materials and logistic costs, they are, yeah, they are started to go upwards. In addition, we have this currency effect, the tariffs, so that's why we expect the gross profit to be on a slightly lower level below last year.

Operating costs will increase, all activities resulting in direct sales, and we will be very conservative with all other functions. Overall, we are expecting earnings to be to grow and to be in an EBIT margin range between 25% and 26%.

Now this concludes our presentation, and we are now happy to take your questions.

Moderator

Thank you for the insights, Peter and Jörg, and we do have a lot of questions that were handed in ahead of this event. I will start out with the first question regarding pricing, and it reads, "How is pricing acceptance evolving in the current environment, particularly in North America, and are there any plans for further price increases?"

Peter Stadelmann

Yes, at this stage, we closely monitor market and tariff developments. Overall, we remain disciplined in our pricing approach.

As you all know, the price increases implemented so far have been well accepted by the market, also in light of competitors having already raised prices earlier in 2025. We currently do not observe any material change in customers' willingness to absorb price increases, especially and including North America.

In general, there is a low price elasticity. If you were listening to Christopher in the movie just a few minutes ago, he said there is a necessity for such equipment.

You can't cope without. There's no other way than just, if you need them, you have to buy them.

We do not have any information on competitors' pricing decisions regarding the new tariffs situation in the US, we will also monitor those.

Moderator

Thanks so much, Peter. What trends are you seeing in terms of pre-buying, demand development in the US, and potential impact from geopolitical tensions in your business?

Peter Stadelmann

In Q1, we observed some pre-buying in the US ahead of price increases, as usual, which led to a temporary pull-forward effect and fewer orders in March. For the whole quarter, we don't see those.

However, it remains difficult to quantify the exact impact. Overall, the US market continues to perform very well.

Regarding geopolitical tensions, particularly in the Middle East, we currently do not see any significant impact on our business. The Middle East is roughly 3% of total sales of RATIONAL Group.

The region there, it does not have a material effect as a whole. At this stage, we also do not see any meaningful changes in demand trends or customer hesitation heading into Q2.

Moderator

Thank you. How should we think about the current tariff environment in the US and its impact on your margins in the 2026 outlook?

I think, Jörg, that's probably a good question for you.

Jörg Walter

Yes, thank you very much. The unit—the current situation, or one second, with the introduction of the Section 232 on April April 6th, we are now subject to 25% tariffs on our import value of our units, which is a very high value.

On the other hand, we have a slightly decrease on the tariffs for our stands and for other products. Overall, we expect the total tariff expenses on for a full year this year to be around €30 million in 2026, which is approximately €5 to €6 million higher than in the previously anticipated number due to this change to the Section 232.

It is reflected in our guidance. We expected the lower gross margin.

We commented on that. Also the additional tariff costs together with the higher input costs for raw materials and energy and logistics, this will be partly offset by the benefits from the tariff refund that we will—Peter mentioned it—book in the second in the second quarter.

However, when looking at this bundle of the effects, overall, we do not expect a major net impact on the group level.

Moderator

You've already answered a little bit of the next question, which is, "How is the tariff refund treated from an accounting perspective, and is it included in your current guidance?"

Jörg Walter

Yes, for the full year, it is included in the current guidance. It is unexpected in our original scenario, but as we also have higher prices for steel and other raw materials, we have the Iran war, but overall, it is now part of our guidance.

It will be handled. We already claimed all our payments in this official portal.

They were already, let's say, accounted as let's say, valid claims. We don't have a result yet, but as we already have a positive, let's say, reception message from the authorities, now we are ready to book that in the second quarter as an extraordinary result.

Moderator

Thank you. Can you provide an update on your business development in China, including the recent slowdown in Q1 and the key factors affecting current performance?

I guess, Peter, that would be a good one for you.

Peter Stadelmann

Yes, thank you. In Q1, our activities were impacted by a combination of factors.

The sales team was heavily focused on preparing and launching the iCombi 1. There was a lot of training involved for them also, and that temporarily reduced regular sales activities.

We also significantly expanded the sales force, requiring onboarding of new colleagues and ramp-up time. At the same time, the market environment remains challenging with continued weak consumer sentiment.

The longer Chinese New Year period also had a dampening effect on business activity. Overall, we are seeing a mix of internal and external factors affecting performance, and we think it will take the next 6 months to closely monitor developments and derive potential actions.

At the current stage, we won't be giving any concrete figures to sales or costs by the launch, and the associated costs are included in our forecasts.

Moderator

Great. Brings me to the next question, also focusing on the iCombi: "How has the iCombi 1 launch been received in China, and how do you assess its contribution to future growth in the region?"

Peter Stadelmann

We are very satisfied with the launch and initial performance of the iCombi 1. We even have a key account ordering.

I think that was the first one last week. Customers' feedback, including from the HOTELEX, which is the biggest trade show in Shanghai, have been positive, and interest levels are strong.

Of course, they need now also some time to learn about the differences between the existing combis coming from Germany and the new one coming from China. While we are not disclosing specific sales figures at this stage, we see significant long-term potential for the product.

Following the launch, customers and dealers are currently evaluating the product fit, which is, as I said, normal and tied up also some capacity on our side. Overall, despite the current market headwinds, we remain confident that the new product, together with ongoing improvements to our sales organization, will support future growth in China.

Moderator

Thank you. Switching from the iCombi to the iHexagon, can you give us an update in terms of sales development, rollout progress, and adoption across different customer segments on this product?

Peter Stadelmann

Yes, there are no major changes compared to our previous communication. Overall, we are satisfied with the iHexagon's performance so far and continue to roll out the product across additional markets.

In 2026, we have already launched or are planning to launch in countries including Benelux, France, Spain, and Italy. From a commercial perspective, we have broadened our sales approach and are no longer relying solely on dedicated specialists, but instead involved now the entire sales organization in all the markets where the iHexagon is available.

This is supporting further market penetration. In terms of customer mix, we are increasingly seeing demand beyond large-scale applications.

While initial use cases were often in major venues such as stadiums—you probably remember the movie on the stadium in the UK—we are now also seeing growing interest from smaller restaurants and individual customers, which underlines the product's expanding addressable market. We even had a speaker at our AGM last week who has two restaurants, and for his two restaurants, he has been advised by Stefan from IR, and finally, bought an iHexagon for his new kitchen.

He commented on stage last week that he is very happy with it, there was no better marketing for our iHexagon in front of the shareholders. That was, of course, the wrong

Jörg Walter

audience,

Peter Stadelmann

but it was for us very great to hear that honest feedback from a customer.

Moderator

Thank you. Jörg, a question regarding the gross margin: "How should we think about gross margin development in 2026, including the impact from tariffs, raw materials, and logistics costs?"

Jörg Walter

I think I explained that already earlier in the call. It is reflected in our guidance that we have a slightly lower gross margin.

We definitely have now key headwinds coming from higher tariffs. I just talked about that in the US Section 232, as well we have increasing raw material and logistics costs.

These factors, they will put our margin under pressure. I have also to admit a little bit on a higher level than we originally foreseen for the full year.

On the other hand, we talked about the unexpected tariff refunds that will balance that off. When we take all these effects together, we can confirm that we will expect the gross margin on a lower level against previous year, but it will be softened by these tariffs refund.

Moderator

Thank you. Can you provide more detail on the key cost drivers such as steel surcharges, energy costs, and potential geopolitical impacts?

Jörg Walter

Sure. The raw materials, when we come to the alloy surcharge, we have a level of €2.20 per kilogram, and that is roughly 10% higher than the average alloy surcharge that we saw last year.

From that side, we have some pressure. From an energy perspective, the direct impact is quite limited because our own operation, we have a relatively low energy intensity.

On the other hand, we know that our suppliers, they are also hit by the rising energy costs, and therefore, it needs to be seen in what speed they will come and ask for to turn that cost effect on us. I think there is a quite big time lag between those two effects, for the full year, the energy effect is quite limited.

Geopolitical impacts, as our suppliers are really based all here in Germany or the direct suppliers Germany, Hungary, Czech, Austria, it's very stable. The only topic really we have is that we have to pay higher prices for electronical components due to this run for AI data centers.

That is something we are also facing, but we were able to secure our supply, we will not hitting any shortages from the electronical side either.

Moderator

Thank you so much, Jörg. Peter, following up with a question regarding the development of your non-equipment business, can you give us a feeling of how that is coming along and how pricing actions are contributing to margin protection in that space?

Peter Stadelmann

The non-equipment segment accounted for around 31% of total sales in Q1 2026, broadly in line with previous years and without any significant changes in mix. Regarding pricing, we implemented a price increase in the US in February.

However, due to some pre-buying effects, as commented earlier, the impact of those increases is not yet fully visible in our reported figures. We expect pricing to become more noticeable from Q2 onwards and to support margin developments going forward.

Moderator

Thank you. Can you give us a better understanding as to what the key drivers behind the weaker growth in Australia rest of the world were?

Peter Stadelmann

Yes. For Australia, as you might know, we have a long-standing partner there.

The development is mainly driven by timing effects related to a restocking inventory at the end of last year. That leads now to lower order volume in Q1.

Over a long period, however, business development remains stable with no structural changes.

Moderator

Thank you. Jörg, this one's for you: "How do you assess the outlook for your end markets and regional development, and what are the key drivers for growth in the coming quarters?"

Jörg Walter

Also that I mentioned in the presentation, the outlook for the out-of-home market remains positive. Eating outside home is growing, the necessity for multifunctional units is growing, and for us, important that we continue our investment in our sales organization.

That is what we did in Q1. We increased our sales force by 20 people just in one quarter.

Overall, we think that with that investment and we will continue in the coming quarters to do so, we are on a good way to secure our positive market development even in a, let's say, unstable and quite difficult market environment. I think just the result in North America, what we saw in Q1, was really showing that also here in Q1 in the US, we have now a very good footprint with our salespeople and 60, 70 people in the street, and that's why we can continue to have a positive development, and that we will also see in the other markets.

Moderator

Thank you so much. Looking at the EBIT margin, you reiterated the 25% to 26% EBIT margin guidance even though Q1 was a little softer.

Should we think about margin progression as largely second-half weighted, and what are the key bridge items from the current 23.9% in Q1 to the full-year range?

Jörg Walter

The most important topic is operating leverage. Peter showed the quarters, and the first quarter is always the weakest quarter for us, typically, then second and third quarter on a higher level, on a comparable level, and then with a record in Q4.

We expect the same seasonality for this year. Just to mention, the fourth quarter EBIT margin last year Q4 was around 28% to then 29%.

That shows what leverage potential we do have, and in that respect, the 23.9%, nearly 24% in the first quarter is a good first step in order to reach our guidance between 25% and 26% for the full year.

Moderator

Great. Thank you.

Looking into balance sheet and cash flow, can you comment on the development of provisions, liabilities, and free cash flow, and how these would evolve over the remainder of the year?

Jörg Walter

Yes, well, there is no trend or seasonality that is unusual for us. Typically, we increase our reserves, our accruals for the bonus to the dealers, for the bonus for employees, and then we have a payout in Q1.

That is what we did, and then we start to build up the accruals again. That is what happening.

That's why the cash flow in Q1 was a little bit on a lower level, and typically, the cash flow then in Q2 and Q3 to Q4, they are on a higher level, and Q2, certainly, then lowered by the dividend payout.

Moderator

Great. Thank you so much.

Peter, a quick question for you: "Could you remind us broadly how much energy costs make up in a typical restaurant?"

Peter Stadelmann

Share of energy cost in gastronomy is between 10% to 15%.

Moderator

Great. In your addressable market, do you have a sense of the share of addressable kitchens that work with gas versus electricity?

Peter Stadelmann

Yes. Share of gas units is at around 18%, and almost half of that is the USA.

Moderator

Great. Thank you.

Let's stay with energy costs. Can you explain what impacts you expect from higher energy costs within your own business, looking at direct costs, costs passed on from suppliers, etc.?

Jörg Walter

Yes. I said it's rather limited.

If you look at our own P&L, we have energy costs here in Landsberg around €3 to €4 million. When we take everything together in our scenario, we can expect the cost effect between €5 to €10 million.

Of course, it's quite difficult to predict, as the possible negotiations with suppliers, they haven't even started yet.

Moderator

Great. Thank you.

Looking at volume growth, you have 6% volume growth disclosed, which is basically 2% price mix given that your organic growth is around 8%. Is that a correct assumption and calculation?

Jörg Walter

The excluding the FX effect, our organic growth was 9% in first quarter. Less the FX was around 6%, and the remainder of the 2%, that was basically favorable mix effects, meaning a favorable market mix and product mix.

Especially we saw that the sales to the US was high. US, in the US, we have the highest prices and also the largest models.

These two effects together, they make up for the 2%. The the price increase, the 4.9%, that was not really a big factor in that calculation.

Moderator

Going forward, what's the effect you would expect from US price increases on growth in the fiscal year 2026?

Jörg Walter

That will be for the full year around 1%, maybe a little bit less, maybe a little bit more.

Moderator

Thank you. Looking at '25, can you come back on the drivers for your higher working capital cash outflow in the fiscal year '25?

No,

Jörg Walter

I think the overall working capital remains on a quite stable level. We were a little bit higher on the year-end number because we had exceptionally high sales in Q4, and that was a reason why especially our receivables were on a high level, but with a normal DSO number.

Overall, I think we are quite stable, and certainly, as we grow, especially outside also overseas, we have a necessity to increase our stock in the US, we have additional stock in Brazil, and so forth. That's why also our stock is growing, but I think it is all in line, and to our operational KPIs, they are very much balanced on the same level.

We don't see any lower level than, and we are monitoring that very closely, we are on the even development.

Moderator

Thank you so much. Peter, quick question for you: "How do prices for cleaning products develop given the sharp rise in costs for some chemicals, and will RATIONAL pass these increased costs on to customers?"

Peter Stadelmann

Our latest change was a decrease for prices of cleaners, which we already recorded last year. We are observing the input cost developments closely and will decide on potential actions accordingly.

Moderator

Thank you. To what extent did your own inventory in the US Canada increase between December and March?

Peter Stadelmann

The increase of around €10 million we see in the balance sheet is reflecting the development in the USA.

Moderator

Okay. Given the strong start to the year organically and US price increases, are you expecting a different pattern this year in terms of the sequence of revenues?

Peter Stadelmann

No, we expect normal seasonality.

Moderator

Great. The last question that was pre-submitted, on iVario: "Any specific factors driving the strong development in the quarter?"

Peter Stadelmann

No, no specific reasons. Strong development in North America and Asia, and other markets also very strong.

Moderator

Great. These were all the questions that we had pre-submitted.

In case anybody in the audience should have additional questions that were not addressed yet, please feel free to put them in the chat box on the lower right-hand corner. Otherwise, I will wait for a few seconds to give you a chance to type it in, even though I do not see anybody typing, which means that the questions that have been submitted were already quite comprehensive and covered most topics that are of interest to you all.

The only thing that's left for me is to say, on the one hand, thank you very much for everybody who participated, for the great questions that you did submit previously. Of course, to thank you, Peter and Jörg, for your insights that you provided.

To also remind everybody who is in this call that the company is inviting you to participate in the IR follow-up talk, which will be held next week on the 13th of May at 2:00 PM. Feel free to register on the IR page of RATIONAL.

The recording of this video can be found also on the IR page at RATIONAL a little later today and also on ResearchHub, where you will also find our research on the company. That's all I have.

I wish you all a great afternoon. Thanks for your interest in RATIONAL.

Goodbye.

Peter Stadelmann

Thank you. Goodbye.

Thank you. Bye.