Starwood Property Trust Inc.

Starwood Property Trust Inc.

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Q2 FY2026 · Earnings Call TranscriptAugust 6, 2026

Operator

Greetings. Welcome to the Starwood Property Trust Second Quarter 2026 Earnings Call.

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Welcome to the Starwood Property Trust Second Quarter 2026 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode.

A question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation. If anyone should require operator assistance during the conference, please press *0 on your telephone keypad.

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Zach Tanenbaum

Thank you, operator. Good morning, and welcome to Starwood Property Trust's earnings call.

This morning, we filed our 10-Q and issued a press release with a presentation of our results, which are both available on our website and have been filed with the SEC. Before the call begins, I would like to remind everyone that certain statements made in the course of this call are forward-looking statements, which do not guarantee future events or performance.

Please refer to our 10-Q and press release for cautionary factors related to these statements. Additionally, certain non-GAAP financial measures will be discussed on this call.

For reconciliation of these non-GAAP financial measures to the most comparable measures prepared in accordance with GAAP, please refer to our press release filed this morning. Joining me on the call today are Barry Sternlicht, the company's Chairman and Chief Executive Officer; Jeff DiModica, the company's President; and Rina Paniry, the company's Chief Financial Officer.

With that, I am now going to turn the call over to Rina.

Rina Paniry

Thank you, Zach, and good morning, everyone. Our distributable earnings were $152 million or 40 cents per share in the second quarter.

Our results continue to reflect the carry on our nonaccrual and REO assets and elevated cash balances, the two items which are creating the gap between our reported earnings and the true underlying earnings power of this company. I will start my remarks by addressing both.

Regarding our nonaccrual and REO, we had no new nonaccrual or new 5-rated loans in the quarter or the year. We also had no new REO in the quarter.

As our new nonaccrual and REO loans have slowed, we have gained momentum in resolutions. To clarify, our definition of resolutions means disposition of the asset in the case of an REO or returning to accrual in the case of a nonaccrual loan.

It is not the transfer of a loan to REO. We have a total of $706 million of reserves against our nonaccrual and REO assets after recording an increase of $30 million in the quarter due to third-party modeled macroeconomic conditions which worsened as a result of the rise in interest rates.

This consists of $485 million of CECL and $221 million of REO reserves, which translate to a $1.97 per share that is already reflected in today's undepreciated book value of $18.62. As we continue our efforts to resolve these underperforming assets, we are currently under contract or in discussions to sell three REO assets and multiple units in our New York City residential project.

In aggregate, these sales are expected to generate cash proceeds of $148 million and resolve $195 million of assets on a DE basis and $160 million on a GAAP basis in the third quarter, comprising 10% of our current nonaccrual and REO balance. One of the three assets was retraded recently due to rate increases, resulting in a $12 million divergence from our GAAP marks.

Absent that, our GAAP reserves were in line with the anticipated sales price, demonstrating our ability to fully resolve these assets consistent with our estimates. The realized loss will flow through DE upon sale in Q3 and totals approximately $47 million for these assets.

As a reminder, when assets are resolved at our carrying value, their reserves naturally progress to DE, but the reserve is already accounted for in our book value. Reinvesting these proceeds would add approximately 3 cents to annual DE as we continue on our path to earning our dividend in our core businesses.

Our total nonaccrual and REO portfolio stands at approximately $1.9 billion on a DE basis at quarter end, not including the $706 million of reserves that are already reflected in book value. Subject to market conditions, we are on track to resolve approximately $800 million or 40% of our current nonaccrual and REO by year-end.

Regarding elevated cash balances, we were especially active in the capital markets this quarter, issuing $1.1 billion of unsecured senior notes and upsizing our term loan B by $275 million. Offsetting this elevated cash was our accelerated investing pace as we deployed capital of $2.5 billion across our businesses and another $1.7 billion in July, bringing year-to-date investments to $6.7 billion.

I will now take you through our individual segment results, beginning with Commercial and Residential Lending, which contributed DE of $186 million to the quarter or 49 cents per share. In Commercial Lending, we originated $1.4 billion, of which we funded $754 million and another $250 million of preexisting loan commitments for a total of over $1 billion funded in the quarter.

After factoring in repayments of $447 million, our funded loan portfolio grew to a record $17.3 billion. We received another $554 million of repayments in July, approximately $170 million of which were office.

I previously mentioned the absence of any new REO, nonaccrual, or 5-rated loans this quarter. Our 4-rated loans increased $212 million to $2 billion, reflecting the downgrade of three multifamily loans that Jeff will speak to.

Turning to Residential Lending, our on-balance-sheet loan portfolio ended the quarter at $2.4 billion, up $164 million, driven primarily by our decision to exercise the call option on one of our securitizations, moving the majority of the financing to more attractively priced repo at SOFR plus 150. As a result, our retained RMBS portfolio declined to $313 million at quarter end.

Turning to our Property segment, we recognized $34 million of DE or 9 cents per share across our legacy and net lease portfolios. I will start with Woodstar, our Florida affordable multifamily portfolio.

On July 1st, we began rolling out the new authorized HUD rent increases of 8.4% that we mentioned to you on our last call. The related earnings impact will appear in our results starting next quarter.

The discount to market-rate rents across the portfolio is 38% on average, which should ensure continued high occupancy and allow us to push through most of these rent increases. Also in Woodstar, we have $416 million of Woodstar debt maturing over the next 6 months that we are currently working to refinance.

Given the appreciation and NOI growth in this portfolio, we are anticipating an upsize of approximately $140 million at attractive spreads, our $110 million share of which can be reinvested to increase future earnings. In Net Lease, where DE increased to 5 cents from 3 cents last quarter, we closed $179 million of purchases in the quarter at a blended cap rate of 7.39%, bringing our total post-acquisition purchases to $532 million at a blended 7.45% cap rate.

The portfolio now stands at $2.7 billion, comprising 527 properties across 44 states, a weighted average lease term of 16.8 years, average annual rent escalations of 2.3%, and 100% occupancy with zero defaults. Included in our balance at June 30th are $91 million of build-to-suit projects still under construction, with $65 million of incremental costs to complete.

All of these projects are subject to executed leases. Upon completion of construction, these leases will add $9.9 million of annual base rent to revenue.

We continue to optimize this platform's capital structure, completing another ABS transaction after quarter end, our third securitization since acquiring the platform a year ago. The ABS financing totaled $321 million at a weighted average fixed rate of 5.47%.

With our continued optimization of the capital structure, our first year of rent escalations in place, and our investing pace, we continue to build toward the earnings power embedded in this platform. Concluding my business segment discussion is our Investing and Servicing segment, which contributed DE of $42 million or 11 cents per share to the quarter.

Special servicing fees were $20 million this quarter, with the decline from last quarter due to timing of resolutions. Our conduit, Starwood Mortgage Capital, securitized $320 million of loans, more than double last quarter's volume, at profit margins that were in line with historic levels.

I will conclude with a comment on this segment's REO equity portfolio, which now has just five assets remaining. We sold one asset during the quarter for a DE gain of $2 million.

Turning to liquidity and capitalization, our current liquidity stands at $1.2 billion. This does not include liquidity that could be generated from cash-out refinancings, sales of assets in our Property segment, direct leveraging, or expected proceeds from REO sales, which, as I've mentioned, could be relatively material.

Jeff will discuss the capital markets transactions we completed in the quarter. There is one item I would like to highlight regarding the early redemption of our $500 million January 2027 unsecured debt, which was subject to an interest rate hedge.

In order to minimize interest rate risk, our policy is to hedge floating-rate assets with floating-rate liabilities and fixed-rate assets with fixed-rate liabilities. When we issued these notes in 2022 to a fixed coupon, we entered into a receive-fixed, pay-floating interest rate hedge to lock in SOFR plus 295 as the financing cost.

In connection with the early redemption, we unwound the hedge. Due to higher interest rates today, this resulted in a loss on early extinguishment of debt of $6.3 million, which will be reflected in both GAAP and DE in the third quarter.

The amount represents the present value of receiving the below-market fixed rate through maturity. It is the one-time cost of retiring an above-current-market SOFR plus 295 obligation and replacing it with 5 7/8 paper, which if issued today would be 6 1/2% to 6 3/4%, saving us over $15 million over the next 5 years.

We continue to operate at conservative leverage levels, ending the quarter at a debt-to-undepreciated-equity ratio of 2.74 times. Our unencumbered asset pool stands at $6.9 billion against $4.5 billion of unsecured debt, a coverage ratio of 1.5 times.

Finally this morning, I wanted to conclude with a few remarks on the recognition we received this quarter by the rating agencies and Nareit. During the quarter, both Fitch and Moody's affirmed our ratings at BB+ and Ba2, respectively, collectively recognizing our diversity, leverage profile, liquidity position, stable earnings, and credit track record as key elements supporting our rating.

We were also once again awarded the Nareit Gold Investor CARE Award, an award given to one company in each industry, which recognizes communications and reporting excellence. This is our 10th time receiving the award in the mortgage REIT category in the last 12 years, exemplifying our long-term commitment to both our stakeholders and transparent financial reporting.

We are honored to once again be recognized by Nareit for this award. With that, I will now turn the call over to Jeff.

Jeff DiModica

Thanks, Rina, and good morning, everyone. Despite a volatile macro backdrop, we've accretively deployed a near-record $6.7 billion year to date.

The breath of opportunity across our global platform continues to grow. Higher rates have been partially offset by tighter credit spreads, and activity has remained robust.

CMBS issuance is tracking near multi-year highs, and CRE transaction volumes continue to recover gradually, but steadily. The breadth of opportunity across our global investment platform remains as active as it has been since 2021.

We have strong pipelines across our businesses and across continents, and we are on pace for a record year of investment activity across our cylinders, supporting the continued growth of our portfolio. In volatile markets, investors have the opportunity to step back and examine the effectiveness of different business models.

Our company has consistently outperformed in times of stress over our 17 years. We have said repeatedly that we built and diversified this company to operate through cycles and across macro environments, and the last 5 months have tested that thesis.

Our unique diversified business model, with only half our revenue coming from CRE lending, has again absorbed this volatility. We see improving conditions in commercial real estate with higher absorption, less supply, and more transaction activity.

Our lack of credit migration and outlook again showcase the durability of the platform we have constructed. In our Commercial Lending segment, our best-in-class financing and access to liquidity, which I will discuss more later, have allowed us to deploy near-record amounts of capital this year.

The third quarter looks to be our strongest origination quarter, reflecting the strength of our global origination platform and further diversifying our business. Despite the leveling off of credit-deteriorated loans, as Rina mentioned, we did have three multifamily loans move to a 4 risk rating during the quarter: a $73 million multifamily asset in Phoenix, Arizona; a $63 million multifamily asset in Clearwater, Florida; and a $74 million multifamily asset in Mesa, Arizona.

These downgrades reflect the effect of higher forward rates I mentioned and broader softness in certain Sunbelt multifamily markets where elevated supply that is mostly behind us has put pressure on near-term cash flow. We have over $6 billion in multifamily loans representing 20% of our balance sheet and more than twice as large as any other exposure.

Despite this being our largest asset class, it is a relatively low percentage of our reserves. We have increased occupancy and improved performance on assets we have taken back, in some cases materially, positioning us to begin exiting them as we have before in a more thoughtful way that returns the highest return to shareholders.

As Rina said, we expect over $800 million of resolutions in the second half of 2026, with the majority coming from REO sales on multifamily assets under PSA or actively being marketed, the redeployment of which will generate DE for shareholders. In addition to the REO sales Rina mentioned, I want to point out a few additional positive credit outcomes in the quarter.

We had previously told you about a $300 million office building in Brooklyn. During the quarter, the borrower signed the third and final lease for 32 years to a credit tenant, bringing the building to 100% occupancy with 30 years of WALT, allowing the remaining portion of the loan to return to accrual status and putting the borrower in a position to refinance or sell the property.

Subsequent to quarter end, two office loans repaid at par for $171 million in total, reducing our office exposure in the US to just 7.6% of our assets, and globally to 8.9% of our assets, both the lowest in our company's history and an important indicator of lower potential losses. Turning to our Infrastructure Lending segment, in the quarter, we committed $441 million at returns consistent with historic levels.

After similar-sized repayments, the portfolio ended the quarter at $3.1 billion. With the pricing of our seventh SIFF CLO this year, our infrastructure loans benefit from term non-mark-to-market financing on 75% of our assets, reducing funding volatility and improving our overall cost of capital in the segment.

The SIFF loan portfolio benefits from outstanding credit quality. 92% of the portfolio is rated 1 or 2 by our internal review process.

It has been 10 quarters since we downgraded a credit to watchlist status, and our portfolio today only has one watchlist credit with a $16 million in market value. 97% of our loans benefit from public or private Moody's credit ratings, and two-thirds of those loans are rated Ba3 or higher.

The risk-adjusted returns on this portfolio add tremendous value to shareholders. Additionally, we acquired an asset in our infrastructure lending business via a debt-for-equity swap on a defaulted loan in 2019.

As part owner of the asset today, we are under contract to sell it in the second half for a material gain to DE and book value. We will tell you more about it in the coming quarter or two once consummated.

In our Property segment, our 1200 K Street office-to-multifamily conversion received residential conversion permits in June, and we have completed demolition and started construction in a market where we have seen Class A rents rise significantly since beginning this conversion process, which we expect to complete in 2028. In our Investing and Servicing segment, our active special servicing portfolio, a key indicator for us on the future segment profitability, increased by $1 billion in the quarter to $10.9 billion, with new SASB transfers totaling $1.3 billion coming in.

Our named servicing portfolio stands at $93.6 billion and is the pipeline that will increase our active special servicing portfolio over time. I also want to recognize Adam Bellman, the head of REIS and our SMC conduit lending businesses.

Adam was recognized by CREFC as the recipient of the prestigious Founders Award, and we want to congratulate him on this well-deserved recognition for his leadership of our REIS business. Congratulations, Adam.

I want to finish with our capital markets activity because I believe it's one of the most important stories of this quarter and the last 18 months, and one that I think is underappreciated by the market. In the second quarter alone, we executed $2.1 billion of corporate debt transactions, including $1.1 billion in senior unsecured notes that were the tightest-priced financial sector unsecured notes of 2026 for a high-yield bond issuer: $600 million that was swapped to SOFR plus 222, and $500 million at 5 7/8% fixed.

We also executed a $275 million term loan B upsize and a repricing of our $696 million existing term loan to SOFR plus 200, which was 25 basis points inside our prior pricing. Subsequent to quarter end, we repaid $400 million of maturing July 2026 high-yield notes and early prepaid $500 million of our January 2027 high-yield notes, as Rina mentioned.

We don't have any more corporate debt maturities until July 2027. Importantly, these transactions extended our weighted average corporate debt maturities significantly to 3.7 years, nearly double what it was before the $6 billion-plus of capital markets transactions we've executed in the last 18 months, while we also reduced the weighted average spread of our debt.

Finally, as Rina mentioned, Fitch and Moody's both affirmed our credit ratings in the quarter, a signal of the institutional confidence in this platform that underpins our ability to access capital at the lowest financial services spreads in the high-yield market. We repurchased $30 million of our $400 million approved stock buyback year to date.

Management and the board own over $350 million of stock alongside our shareholders, more than all our peers combined. Our investing pipeline is robust, and we believe in the long-term value of this platform and are confident in our earnings trajectory over time.

We have been telling you for years that access to capital at scale is one of our defining competitive advantages, and this quarter is a concrete demonstration of that. We are not a pure-play mortgage REIT and are, in fact, only half a mortgage REIT.

This is why our results and trajectory are different. We are a diversified finance company with over $32 billion of assets, eight distinct business lines, and the broadest access to capital markets of anyone in our peer group.

The ability to invest accretively and in scale every quarter and to issue high-yield notes, upsize and reprice term loans, execute CLOs, ABS, and CMBS conduit securitizations across multiple asset classes. Our signaling is also unique and differentiated at a time when the traditional mortgage REIT model has come under pressure due to continued credit deterioration and a lack of investor confidence.

It is a competitive moat that compounds toward our company and shareholders over time. With that, I'll turn the call to Barry.

Barry Sternlicht

Good morning, everyone. Thanks for joining us.

First item of my day is to wish Rina Paniry a happy birthday. Happy birthday to you.

The first management team to sing to their CFO. Maybe that's a violation of SEC decorum, I don't know.

We'll find out. A little surprised by the stock's reaction this morning.

I think we actually had a pretty good quarter and not deviant from anything we've talked about. I think we're kind of throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

Remember, half our company is not large loan lending anymore. I'm sure there's worries in the world about the stability of these mortgage books, given our competitors' reports heretofore.

I think, we look at it differently, and it goes to, of course, our dividend, which we're very public about, and you can see we're not covering. We're pretty confident in our ability to get back to the earnings power that we'll need to drive the dividend and restore our coverage of the dividend.

Why are we confident? Let's start with what's actually happening at the property level in this United States today.

Almost all the real estate asset classes here and in Europe are in repair. Everything is getting better.

Let's look at all the equity REITs in the multifamily sector, logistics sector, self-storage, senior housing, everything is getting better. That's basically driven by steady demand and rapidly deteriorating or nonexistent supply.

I think retail construction is less than 1%. Office is at historic lows if you take out build-to-suits.

There's almost nothing being built in this country. Apartment starts have dropped 70%.

Logistics starts down 70%. You're beginning to see improvements in rent in the multi sector, which we've been waiting for god knows how many quarters.

The markets are absorbing. There's still new supply completing, and things are getting better market by market.

Basically the weakness is in the Sunbelt cities, and it's pretty strong on the two coasts, given nobody was building in California or New York City. That was even harder with the prospects of rent control in those markets.

The bad news is for the whole sector on the legacy books are the flattening of the yield curve, that interest rates have gone up. We have a lot of multis that borrowers were saying, "I'll survive till '25.

Lower rates will allow me to refinance and I can hold on for what we know will be pretty good years." If you listen to Camden or UDR or Avalon or Essex, they're all different geographies, but they're all talking about pretty good year in back half of '26 and really good in '27 and stupendous in '28 is the kind of comments from those management teams.

A lot of borrowers were holding on for that. They don't make a lot of money.

They didn't, but they're paying their debt service. Now it's getting a little more challenging for these guys because they're not refinancing at a 3 SOFR.

They're refinancing at a 4 SOFR or 4 1/8. I actually fundamentally can't really understand the Fed's position on raising rates to this economy.

It's not going to open the Straits of Hormuz. It's not going to change the price of oil in the United States.

It will only impact the interest-rate-sensitive portions of the economy. I don't know, it's feel like a broken record.

Almost a third of the economy is really healthcare, education, and government hires. Those sectors have added almost 6 million jobs since the Fed started raising rates 500 basis points in May of '22.

It doesn't work on this economy. I listen to these bubbleheads on TV in the morning talking about the manufacturing sector.

It's 12 million jobs. It's irrelevant to the United States economy today.

We need to bring back manufacturing, and how are you going to do that with a 4% unemployment rate? Most people like working in the service economies.

It's really a funny concept. It is a tax.

The rise in oil prices is a tax, and the proper move might actually be to lower rates in order to induce the interest-rate-sensitive sectors like housing to be affordable and to recover and to take a burden off the consumer that increased prices represent to the consumer. I would say the backdrop is it's getting better at the property level, which fundamentally is important.

The other big news, obviously for our shareholder base this morning, is we are very busy investing capital. The opportunity sets are great.

We're having record flows of investments. They're double-digit yields, consistent with everything we've ever produced in the past.

This is all new stuff, and it's obviously becoming a bigger and bigger portion of our book going forward. What we have to do is nurse the older stuff.

We're pretty confident of our abilities to turn what doesn't earn much, or almost nothing, some of the assets we're getting back, into being able to sell them and return the capital to invest at these double-digit returns, which will ultimately support the dividend. I'll give you a few examples in our book and what you see.

What probably don't appreciate, and Jeff kind of mentioned it, but I'll double-dip on the comment. When our borrowers get stressed, they stop investing in these assets, and they kind of, in some cases, they don't put the money in to turn the apartment units.

They're actually trying to strip what they can before they give it back to us. They stop capex.

In another property, they didn't do elevator repairs so you couldn't get to the units on the top of the property. One property we did foreclose on, which was a mixed-use development in Texas, our team, since we took it over, 3 months ago, has taken the NOI of the hotel from $1.2 to $4.6 million.

The apartments, which we had to fix the elevators in, have gone from 60% to 80%. We're confident we'll get that into the 90s, and the hotel will stabilize probably in the 7, 8.

We'll get out of this hole in my opinion, but at the moment, it's earning not much for our shareholders. We're an equity shop.

These are equity assets. Our Starwood Capital Group is an equity shop.

I always joke to our team, it's really fun to get these multis back because you're getting them back at a really good price per key. If I was an opportunity fund, I'd buy them.

We are selling them. We're getting them back, and within a month or 2 or 3 months, they're gone.

After we fix it, we just sell it. We don't lose money.

We lose $5 million or $10 million, it's completely irrelevant to the company as a whole. In some cases, we might actually make a little bit of money if we're seeing cap rates.

There is a portfolio of apartments that just sold in a week; it'll trade in the 5.2s. It's a very large deal.

You did it with almost no due diligence. There's great appetite to buy apartments because everyone knows what's coming down the road, and you see this across the whole country.

In fact, we've been bidding on apartments on the West Coast, cap rates are dipping below 4, 4.6, 4.7. We have a bid at 4.3 on apartment deal in Florida.

The cap rates are there to support these loans, but we have to work through it. There's no fast answer here.

The resolutions of these deals is not always in our control. We have to take it back.

We have to minimize transfer taxes if it's in the states with transfer taxes. We're confident in our ability to restore the earnings power of the company in the near term, although that could take a little longer than we would like.

We think we're not considering changing our dividend policy at the moment. If things go differently, if something erupts that we don't know about, and we see, well, we'd have to revisit that, but right now we're confident in our dividend.

As a shareholder myself in the management team, we know exactly what we're doing. We're obviously overpaying our dividend, we're deteriorating our book value slightly, but we believe our shareholders have wanted to be consistency and transparency, and that's why I'm talking so much today to actually tell you what is actually going on.

We look at our book, I can break it down between the really good stuff, the stuff that's teh, and then the stuff that's not doing much. To us, it represents just tremendous earnings power.

We're going to look if we have to take small losses to redeploy that capital now and get to the 12s and 13s and better that we can produce on the capital when we get it back, we're going to do it. We'll just do it measuredly.

We have gains in our book, we can offset some losses with gains. Where they are.

We've talked about them for the last 13 years, and that stuff is only getting better. When you break down our businesses, look at our really good stuff, obviously our infrastructure business has been terrific, continues to be great.

Our special servicer, our conduit, our resi book are all fine. Woodstar, our apartment portfolio, terrific.

Our triple net lease business not adding much to our earnings right now, but I look at this an opportunity because we have a business that trades at a 6, the triple net lease business, 17-year leases, zero defaults, it trades at a 6 in the public market, and it trades at a 11 or 12 dividend yield in us, and that's dumb, right? We're not that stupid.

We have to look at what we can do here. We love the earnings.

The stability of earnings. We love the depreciation shield it gives us.

We have a large business inside of us that would be worth materially more if we sold it. I think if we sold it or we somehow spun it off or we did something with it, we obviously think we could enhance our earnings for a while.

That's not something we really want to do, but it's something we know that we have in our pocket that we could do if we could figure out the right way to do it. I'll give you one other REO story because I actually just visited the asset in Washington, D.C.

We took back an office building from one of the top three or four real estate sponsors in the United States, actually this particular company is, even though we've taken multiple buildings back from them, they've never reported the defaults and the losses they've incurred in all these assets, which is fascinating. Leaving that to the side, this former office building we inherited, we've got approval, and we've begun the process of turning it into an apartment complex.

I looked at that we've already started. Rents have gone up in D.C.

What we thought would just get us our capital back, now possibly we could make money on. There's no way to accelerate this.

It's a couple hundred million dollar asset sitting on our books. You're giving it zero value because it's not there to produce the dividend.

It is a work in progress. It will be finished.

It will lease at the plus or minus something, and it'll be a additive asset, and we'll get our capital back. I don't know how to do that any differently for as you take the long view, which we have for the longest-surviving firm in our space and the largest in our space.

We're going to do that. Other cases, we've restructured a loan on a portfolio of apartments, and we might look to just sell the loan.

It's fine. It's the loan that assets are definitely worth the loan balance, but it's underperforming.

We can't materially increase the ROE on that loan. It was restructured, and we agreed to a fixed-rate loan.

It's earning, but it's not earning the levels of returns we want to earn on capital of that scale in our company. Asset by asset, and modified loan, and nonaccrual loans, we're going through them all, and we're going to figure out the right way to maximize shareholder value and build back our book value.

I think I actually feeling pretty good about things. I am looking at the future and all the earnings power of all these underperforming assets as well as our ability to put out the capital across our very differentiated platform at very attractive returns consistent or better than we've had in the past.

We are going into a new line of business, which we'll tell you about next quarter. At least, we're highly confident we're going into it, which will add another cylinder to our company.

Again, nothing to do with income-producing commercial loans. We continue to look at acquisition opportunities and opportunities to consolidate our sector as some other people throw in the towel, and their stocks are trading at material discounts to book value.

We should be a sector consolidator and still keep our eye on the ball, which is to try to make investment grade down the road. What Jeff and Rina and the team have done to our balance sheet is heroic.

We have by far the best balance sheet in the sector. I call it a fortress balance sheet in our sector, with very little near-term maturities.

We've lowered our cost of capital. If I'm right, which is a counter view, that rates won't go up as much as people say, I think things will get better, continue to get better.

Unhappy that I can't tell you it's perfect today, very happy that I can tell you how we can grow and restore our earnings power. It's pretty obvious to everyone in the room.

We're doing about what we told you we were going to do. There's not much of a surprise.

It is nice to see we had no deterioration in our credit book. The CECL reserve just went up because interest rates went up, and that's an economic model that we can't control.

We have $700 million of reserves against this book. I'll give you a little hint: we'll probably use a lot of that down the road.

That won't impact book value when that happens, and when and if it happens. Again, things are picking up.

Even the office markets are getting leases. As we've been consistent for now 2 years, the good buildings are leased and have tremendous rental power.

Even in our suburban book, in our equity book, not this company's book, but Starwood Capital's book, we're kind of surprised the velocity of office leasing coming back to markets that you heretofore considered to be weak. The industrial markets, I can tell you not getting away from this, we are quite busy and getting multiple bids again on industrial assets.

All that bodes really well for the majority of our book and for the opportunities that we have in front of us. With that, I thank you for your time, and I hope you have a great rest of summer.

I know you join me in wishing Rina a happy birthday. Thank you.

Questions?

Operator

Thank you.

Barry Sternlicht

Questions are up

Jeff DiModica

there.

Operator

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One moment while we poll for questions. Our first question comes from Jade Rahmani with KBW.

Please proceed with your question.

Jade Rahmani

Thanks very much. From an equity perspective, when you're bidding on multifamily, you mentioned the 4.3% cap rate and the California portfolio.

How are you thinking about that? Is there an opportunity to create rent growth and there's supply shortfalls down the road so the fundamentals are really going to turn the corner?

Is that the thesis there? Because I think multifamily has been challenged with taking a lot longer to turn the corner on rent growth, and now with the recent spike in interest rates, that potentially weighing on valuations.

Right.

Barry Sternlicht

The 4.3 was actually in Florida. It wasn't in California.

We bid on some apartments in the Bay Area, and I think the cap rates were 4.5. We lost, by the way.

They're seeing 14% lease trade-outs in in the Bay Area. Like this is both renewals and and and new leases are positive.

You you see across the country, both in SFR and in apartments, that renewals are positive, and the propensity of people to stay is is higher than it's been in the past because there's nowhere for them to go. They're not buying houses.

That's been good. They're positive, but the new leases have been challenged.

What we're seeing is concessions are burning off, and that's the first thing you see before market rates go up. Instead of 3 months or 2 1/2 months, it's 2 months or 1 1/2 months.

That translates into rental growth, actually. Effective net rents are going up.

I think it is market by market. There's, I think the Northern Florida market seems to be turning a little faster than some other markets.

Even in a city like Austin, which is probably the worst apartment market in the country, we have assets that are positive on both renewals and and and and and new leases, and others that are down material. I think it's totally right now it's like the stock market, picking.

You pick your market, you pick your asset in the market, you pick your zip code in that submarket. You see a lot of, the new construction of data centers and, to some extent, manufacturing facilities.

If you're so lucky to have a apartment building near one of these, you have a great pricing power. You saw the hotel companies talk about the lower end of the market getting better.

It's kind of consistent with that that since C-shaped economy. We're beginning to see this bottom turn around, which we had not seen, in our lower-end extended-stay stuff.

Not not stuff you own here. Starwood controls 110,000 apartments, 60,000 affordable units and 50,000 market rate, and we get data trailing 30, 60, and 90 in every market we're in from our portfolio.

Obviously with AI, now we're collecting data on everything else that comes in the shop. We're it's for me, I'm an equity guy.

We're sort of masquerading in the debt the debt world. We wouldn't mind holding some of these assets if we thought they're going to take off.

We've been trying to turn them quickly and get rid of the REO and the and the multi book. Half the time, I'd I'd turn to our team and say, "Why are we selling at that price per unit?

It's half of replacement cost." I think, but I don't it's funny, my own team showed me a a REIT the other day that they classified as an office REIT.

This office REIT is really an apartment REIT. The market thinks they're an office REIT.

It's still classified there, but 80%, 70% of their income's from apartments. We're a mortgage REIT.

You're treating us like we're just a mortgage REIT. Even if I took back all this equity book, we'll you'll still treat me like a mortgage REIT.

I want to make money for the shareholders, I want to own these assets. As a mortgage REIT, I should to get rid of them.

If we could convince people like half part of us is a, and equity REITs are trading probably at a 4 1/2 dividend yield, not a 12. Our our high ROE businesses, which is our servicer, the nation's largest, $100 billion of loans that it services and almost $10 billion in in our special right now, that is a great business.

That's a fantastic ROE business stuck inside of us. No one else has one, and we get no value for it in our current structure.

We're treated just like everyone else. No one else looks like our company, not even remotely close.

A few have pivoted to try to build some of these verticals, but they're irrelevant given their scale. We're half other things, right?

We have we have the tail. For that reason, you'll see us get more aggressive on our stock repurchase programs.

We we, and personally, we we'll see what we do. You don't get gifts like this every day.

I think we represent a pretty good value in a very volatile world where obviously we're in the data center business ourselves. We probably have $20 billion, $30 billion deployed in that sector.

We're lenders to the sector, in in in the business. That is a crazy business right now, people.

There's a moratorium going up for review, I guess, in Dallas County, which is the largest data center market in the world. It is so big, it is bigger than all of Europe and Asia combined.

It's been the king of data centers. All of a sudden, they seem to have caught the political headwinds of not in my backyard.

They're sort of pregnant on data centers. They're 8 1/2 GW on their way to, I think, 10 or 12.

It's like that business is getting airy. We we have stocks that are trading at all-time highs assuming all these data centers get built.

They better hurry up and get space ready because the United States, whether it's Chinese influence or not, is getting really hard to get approvals for data centers. I think the market has adjusted not a data not a basis point for a slowdown in the ability of us to get all of us in the development world to get these data centers approved and and and up and ready in time.

It makes those that are approved even more valuable. I I think look, the the volatility of of the world has always been good for the real estate sector.

Real assets are someplace everybody wants to come, and real estate loans are pretty attractive relative to tech credit. Where where, I I I laugh.

I was telling talking to one of my children the other day. I said, "At least we go to bed knowing a garage in Mongolia isn't coming out with a new LLM that's going to put us out of business."

The pressure of our business is different, right? Like we're not we don't really care about a building built in Tokyo, right?

You're in the tech world, you can go out of business literally overnight. This sector, we're resilient.

We're the world's largest asset class, and there's always something to do. Our job is to go find out where the good risks returns are for the least risk.

We've built a company that has lots of ability to deploy capital in other things. We've been looking at other things, too.

We've we're very we're very careful, and we the the SIFF team brought us a very interesting transaction, which we may or may not go back and do. We're looking at doing what we're supposed to do, which is build a a consistent earning stream and and be transparent.

I think the shareholders do approve appreciate that, and that's why we've gotten these Nareit awards for 8 years? 10 years in a row, most best reporting.

Probably these earnings calls, too.

Jeff DiModica

Thanks, Jade.

Jade Rahmani

Is there anything that you've experienced this cycle that changes your views on how Starwood Property Trust should invest? For example, the regional banks have pulled back materially.

Does that open up an opportunity in perhaps fixed-rate lending, attacking the middle market? Also liability management.

I think the mortgage REITs you mentioned that are under so much pressure, it has to do with their liability structure, which makes them a forced seller in many cases. Starwood has been wise to diversify and continue to diversify the right side of the balance sheet.

Barry Sternlicht

The new business we'll talk about next quarter is actually a business that the regional banks have left, or greatly reduced their capital allocation to, and we think it could be a particularly good vertical for us going forward. We've been working on it, but we finally found a way to get in it.

I would say construction is interesting for us today. I guess the other thing people need to be aware of, of course, is rising construction costs across the globe, in the United States, are still in place.

We just recently had a board meeting, I think it was last week, and one of our board members is in the construction industry. You've gotten reports from some of the housing companies that prices have come down.

What's really happening is labor is becoming harder to get again because the electrician and the plumber are getting picked off to build the data center at two times what they're getting paid to build a house. That applies to commercial real estate, too.

All of the construction that's needed to build all this stuff, they're just stealing workers from other verticals in the economy and putting pressure on wages. Materials are okay.

We'll see what oil winds up, because everything in a building is some derivative of oil, plastics and piping. Copper prices are pretty high.

I think you're not getting a big help there, but it's not getting cheaper to build across the country, particularly in union-dominated cities. It's brutally hard to make the economics work.

I think I don't know. We had three loans, I think, we approved yesterday.

We're still seeing lots of opportunity globally. Pretty constructive in Europe and continue to find good opportunities.

We've been through a lot of cycles in our 15 years, I guess. What I call credit cycles, up and down our sector.

We continue to find opportunities to deploy capital. That's when you should be worried, by the way.

You should be worried about us when we can't produce double-digit yields on the books we originate. We'll tell you when that happens, but right now that's not the case.

Jeff DiModica

It's been totally consistent. The yields that we're returning over the last 4, 5, 6 years even on a levered basis.

You said two things, Jade. You talked about banks.

The banks pulling back has certainly helped our repo. We've talked about that ad nauseam, I won't go there.

They are significantly better off lending to us from a regulatory capital perspective than making whole loans, and that's helped where we finance ourselves. You also mentioned fixed-rate lending.

The insurance companies with a lower cost of capital than us tend to lend fixed. When rates go up like this, they have a yield target, and that tends to drive spreads lower because they're willing to lend at an all-in yield, and that helps drive spreads.

Both of those things are helpful to us from a borrowing perspective, where we're borrowing at lower spreads. We draft off that, but we're unlikely to compete in fixed-rate lending away from the CMBS conduit world where we're doing a decent amount of 5- and 10-year fixed-rate lending, and we're the number one nonbank originator of CMBS the last two or three years in a row.

Most of these things create tailwinds for what Barry said, which is our pipeline that will continue to earn double-digit yields on. Operator, next question.

Operator

Our next question comes from Rick Shane with JPMorgan. Please proceed with your question.

Rick Shane

Hey guys, thanks for taking my questions. Barry, I have no idea what the SEC will say about you singing, but I believe that they put Happy Birthday into the public domain.

At least Rina won't have to expense you singing to her this morning. One question for you.

You started to talk about data centers. Starwood Digital Ventures has a partnership with Mara.

I'm curious how we should think about how that partnership interfaces with Starwood Property Trust, how that partnership is going, and how you see allocation to data centers between equity and debt across the platform.

Barry Sternlicht

For anyone listening who doesn't know what we're speaking about, Starwood on the private side has a JV with Mara, a Bitcoin mining company, where we take their Bitcoin mining and we take over and turn it into a data center. They have a number of projects, and there's been tremendous tenant interest in their projects.

There's no cross-over between Starwood Property Trust and the activities of Starwood Digital Ventures at the moment or their Mara partnership. They're totally separate.

I think you saw of the ERCOT moratorium in Texas, and that I think that's just a slow down until they figure out what they're going to do. Getting approvals for deals has been harder since the public sentiments determined that data centers are evil.

Even in Texas, it's put a kink in things. We do have unbelievable tenant interest in the properties.

I think for all of us in the data center world, we have to figure out what the credit profile is of some of the tenants. There's obviously that we've only done deals with the hyperscalers.

Even in the hyperscale world, you have the different credit of Oracle versus Meta or Amazon or Microsoft. Then we've not done any data center work with any of the neoscalers or CoreWeave or any of those guys.

I think and the whole data center world is being driven by the availability and proceeds levels and pricing of the debt, because everybody's trying to do basically the same thing with the same half a dozen tenants. It's funny.

It's so new in the markets that they're like, "I got a data center deal," and people, "Oh, it's great." Maybe they're building to a 7.

Some people are building to an 8. Some people are building to a 9.

Some people are building to a 10. All right, we built a data center to a 12.

You don't know. You can't know.

I was seeing one of you has written about another REIT, equity REIT, that's big in data center businesses, and they're making assumptions, some of the analysts are, what the yields on cost are. There's no way you know that because nobody's told you that, and lease hasn't been signed.

How could you know? I think from our perspective is that our lending to that sector is we're very comfortable and where we are and in syndicates that we participated in.

We'll continue to look at the credits and make sure that we're comfortable with the credits. Once these things are completed, they will be refinanced because I guess another view is, whether you have a 15- or 20-year lease from a hyperscaler, and they're backed by their credit, it depends what kind of data center it is, but the real question is why should their real estate credit be 500, 400, 300, 200 basis points wide of their corporate credit?

That's what the market sees. There seems to be a tremendous appetite, at least in the public markets, for data center debt.

You've seen some very large deals get done and still in the market. We look at everything.

What we want to participate in and not. Typically today, the spreads on a Microsoft deal won't work for us.

Jeff DiModica

We won't be able to make that. Though we were fairly early on, and we do have some much higher-yielding data center exposure.

Our largest one will pay off later this year. It's already out of construction.

The book that we put on, we're very comfortable with. It future-funds to about $1.8 billion total of our $30 billion book, but it's at higher yields than you can get today.

Barry Sternlicht

That's exactly the point, is finished data center gets refinanced, and we get taken out. So.

Rick Shane

Got it. Appreciate the answers, guys.

Thank you. Happy birthday, Rina.

Rina Paniry

Thanks, Rick.

Barry Sternlicht

Don't ask her hard questions on her birthday. Wait till tomorrow.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Chris Muller with Citizens Capital Markets.

Please proceed with your question.

Chris Muller

Hey guys, thanks for taking the question. I wanted to touch on the net lease business a little bit.

The interest rate environment has shifted pretty dramatically since you guys first acquired that. We have two rate hikes priced in by mid-year next year.

I guess generally, how do you guys expect that business to perform in a rising rate environment? Maybe both on the demand side and the existing portfolio.

Barry Sternlicht

We play in that space in a niche, which is sort of build-these-fact-of-core facilities, usually associated with some transaction that's taking place. What we've actually seen is not what you would have expected with rising rates.

Cap rates are coming down. There's a lot of money chasing net lease, and we have a lot of peers that are raising money privately to compete.

We're scratching our heads on some of them because we can't understand the cap rates that they're buying at and the leverage they must be putting in place, how they could be producing the returns they're talking about. It's simply not possible, frankly.

I don't understand what they're reporting. This is other companies, not us.

Our book steps up, 2, 2 or 2 1/4% rent bumps every year. We've got a great leverage structure in place with this ABS securitization trust.

Even in there, I think the spreads come down probably 50 bips from where we started. Leverage levels have risen, the ROE goes up because even though you're coming down the cap rate, you're getting a little more leverage.

It's match-booked.

Jeff DiModica

We cut 70 basis points or so off our warehouse facilities in the interim before they go to ABS, so.

Barry Sternlicht

You're still super competitive, but we hear you. All around the world, capital's looking for safe high returns, and I think triple net lease is just a bond-equivalent kind of thing.

You would think normally a long-dated bond would go down in value, but I think there's just still a quest for yield everywhere. One of the enigmas of our business is Tokyo.

Cap rates are in the 3s. You all know what's happened to Tokyo interest rates.

Cap rates are plummeting, and they're plummeting because rents are going up. I've always told our team, rents are more important than interest rates.

If you think rents are going up, you're going to buy down the cap rate, and you don't really give a hoot about a quarter point in interest rates. I think you'll see the same thing in properties.

It won't be directly linked if there's significant growth. You see this today in active senior housing, and you're buying down the cap rate because the growth is so strong.

There's no construction. Believe me, we're in the market bidding on this stuff all the time and getting outbid all the time.

It's really about rental growth. It's 3/4 of the underwriting.

It's interesting, we lost these deals and probably regret doing it on for the apartments on the West Coast, some of these markets where when you see 10% rent increases, and of course, you have to deal with the prospects of rent regulation and everything else in the blue states. You can buy down the cap rate pretty quickly because you're not worried about the cap rate or the yield being that same number 2, 3 years from now.

You're right. I think our capital deployment, to be honest, has been slower than I hoped.

It's been what they planned, to be clear, but I kind of thought as we got more aggressive with our ability to finance the business, we could put out more money. It's been steady, but not as high.

That's one of the reasons it's not as accretive as we had hoped earlier. We knew it would be dilutive when we bought it, but we thought we could get it to materially accretive faster.

That has not been the case because the yields have come down, cap rates have come down for the triple net lease and too fast for us, even though the financing's come down, actually there's one thing you see, there's fewer buyouts. There's fewer deals because rates have gone up, and people are scratching their heads on their terminal values and their multiples.

Are they right? Are they wrong?

It's solid, and it's a great business. It's just not been as accretive.

Obviously we issued stock to buy the company at a higher price, it's sort of unfortunate, but it's not a bad thing. Again, it fits in our business, and you can look at the public comps and know what it would trade at.

It wouldn't trade at a 12 dividend yield, so.

Chris Muller

That was all very helpful. Appreciate that.

Barry Sternlicht

Thanks, Chris.

Operator

Our final question comes from Gabe Poggi with Raymond James. Please proceed with your question.

Gabe Poggi

Hey all, thank you for taking the question, and happy birthday, Rina. Barry and Jeff, I want to go back to the comments, thinking about, look, Starwood Property Trust is a diversified commercial real estate business, period.

You guys have been around for 15 years, you're the bellwether of the space, you got a lot of cylinders. How do you think about the world we live in now, right, still being bucketed as a mortgage REIT, having a net lease business, having Woodstar, taking on more REO, Barry to your comments of we'd like to own these assets for a long time?

How do you think about that in the construct of, right, cash flows, the dividend has been a constant since day one, which, you guys have talked about it ad nauseam in a good way. Thinking about that, and then arguably what's the best total return, right, if you had a buck today, what's the best total return profile from an asset allocation perspective?

Is it making new loans, just cranking out 12s? Is it taking back keys on Sunbelt multi, waiting a few years, fixing them, the market, the Iran conflict settles, rates come down a scosh, etc., and there's a way to move those faster?

I want to get a dynamic of how kind of the big machine, Starwood Capital, thinks about what STWD can do while you play the long game.

Barry Sternlicht

Yes, yes, and yes.

Gabe Poggi

It's a really

Barry Sternlicht

it's a really good question. We should we should, maybe we can Sorry, most of you follow the mortgage REITs, but maybe we could get some equity REITs to follow analysts to follow us.

Move to our own little bucket. We've, the bad news is we created a weird company in the capital markets, and, you've seen other REITs diversify, and sometimes they, they get it doesn't seem to pan out the way they hoped.

I think if we were structurally going to change ourselves, that's something that's a very material strategic decision. Right now we are we're supposed to be a mortgage REIT or or I'd say a commercial finance company, or finance company.

I I thought where Jeff tells me we're about 26% owned real estate today. I I don't know if that's good or bad news.

In the Woodstar case, it's good news. It when we bought those, I I because we own the stock, I said, "These are things I I never want to sell," like they're they're how could Affordable housing, again, rents do not go down.

It's impossible. They go up based on income growth.

Over time, they're going to have income growth, and they have no real estate taxes, we're not going to get pressured by municipalities that are going to keep raising taxes to tax the wealthy people that own buildings. They are just, fundamentally, a fantastic business.

Look, it's not a 30% IRR business every day, but we made $2 billion in in our in that $2 billion in that trade for our shareholders, which Starwood Capital Group did. It's given us a a a a potpourri of opportunities to help ourselves, with with with potential gains if we want to harvest them to help us offset some of the other challenges in the book.

I I yeah, it's a good question. We're We're going to have to think about this over time and and see how this all, comes to fruition.

We're not going to have the stock trade at a 12 dividend yield. That that seems to be that's, and we can't that's sort of silly.

Why would we even do anything? That's why, we'll go back in the markets and start buying stock again.

Jeff DiModica

If you think this 26% commercial real estate, owned commercial real estate, should trade at a lower dividend yield, which I think the world is telling you, low-income housing tax credits do, net lease does, the few multis we've taken back do, you're effectively implying 14% dividend

Barry Sternlicht

yield

Jeff DiModica

on your lending businesses. Our lending businesses are performing in line with what we're telling you, and we have outsized return lending businesses like our infrastructure business, etc.

It

Barry Sternlicht

The markets. We're caught in ETFs.

The broad ETFs are getting redemptions. I'm sure that's part of the issue with our sector.

We're big, we get hit with redemptions as much or more than others. We just have to distinguish ourselves over time.

Jeff makes a superb point, which I'll say again because it's so good. If 26% of your book should trade at a 6, look at the cap rates of apartments, which are 5s, in the public market.

Net lease, the yields are 6. I think the underlying NOIs are with the 6 to 7 cap rates.

You take that out, 6 or 7, are our mortgage books worth a 14 or 15? That's ridiculous.

With this credit, what's our LTV exposures? 0 to what?

40, 50, 7? It's ridiculous.

We have whole loans, and it's ridiculous. That's okay.

We're playing long ball. It's sort of painful on the mark, and I fear for our shareholders, particularly the retail that doesn't probably understand what's going on as much and is nervous that we're going to go the way of some of the other mortgage REITs.

It's structurally not really possible right now the way we've built the company. We'll see how this plays out.

Short-term, I think some of our peers that were a little more aggressive on the recovery of a straight line than they should have been, and we, too, were surprised, by the way, by some of the reports of these other firms. Again, look at the amount of capital we're putting out and new stuff, 2.0 stuff, versus in the past, record deployments.

What did we put out already this quarter? You just said it.

Jeff DiModica

It's $2.7 billion for the year, $1.7 billion already closed in July. We should have the biggest origination quarter in a couple years this quarter.

Barry Sternlicht

Feel really good about that. Again, when we can't tell you that, then you should worry.

Okay? Right now is not the time.

You should look at it as a hidden earnings machine as we get this stuff back online. Gosh, it's just I can't get our team to build out those stuff faster.

They do have to do it so it doesn't fall down. We do have to turn around these assets we're getting back.

It's just the nature of the business.

Gabe Poggi

The only quick follow-up to that would be is I have to imagine that, and you've alluded to it, Barry, that buying back stock has got to be at the top of the best investments you can make list right now with the implication that the loan book is 14, 15.

Barry Sternlicht

We have authorization, and

Gabe Poggi

we're You do. Okay.

Barry Sternlicht

What are we authorized to buy back?

Zach Tanenbaum

$400 million.

Barry Sternlicht

$400 million. We're well aware of it, and we had to be out of the market because we knew what our earnings were.

As of this moment, we can go back in the market, we're on your side.

Jeff DiModica

Thank you.

Barry Sternlicht

Have a great summer, the rest of it, and we'll see you in the fall. Bye-bye.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for your participation. This does conclude today's teleconference.

Please disconnect your lines and have a wonderful day.