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Q4 FY2025 · Earnings Call TranscriptFebruary 26, 2026

Thomas Koponen

My name is Thomas Koponen, Director of Investor Relations, and with me today I have CFO Indiresh Vivekananda. The online presentation will be led by Indiresh Vivekananda, CFO, following the commencement of the voluntary recommended public cash tender offer by Resilience Investment Holdings on February 5th, 2026.

Investor and analyst communications during the offer period, including all IR calls, are being led by Mr. Vivekananda.

As previously disclosed, CEO Padma Ravichander, as a member of a bidding consortium, and this arrangement has been made to ensure appropriate governance during the offer period. Ms.

Ravichander continues in her role as CEO, responsible for the company's day-to-day operations. You may submit questions regarding the Q4 results in the comment section below.

You are in a audio-only mode, and we have reserved 30 minutes for the webcast today. Without further ado, please, CFO Indiresh Vivekananda, over to you.

Indiresh Vivekananda

Thank you. Thank you, Thomas.

Good morning to all the investor friends. Let's start the presentation.

I'll start with the highlights of the results for the 2025. In the first slide, I want to share how we performed against the guidance what we had earlier given, which was also refined at the beginning of the current year.

We had said that we are going to grow in constant currency revenue from mid to high single-digit percentage, and we achieved 8.2 in constant currency. The EBIT margin expansion we had guided to be around 200 basis points, and we did 210 basis points.

The free cash flow, originally we had said that above €4 million, we refined it to between €4.5 to €5 million, and we ended up at €4.6 million as a free cash flow. The DSO days, we originally guided at 100 to 140, revised it to 130 to 150, and ended up the year at 146 days.

CapEx to sales, we had initially estimated to be at 10% to 12%, we ended up at 13.4%, mainly due to the new orders what we got in the year and the investment in product development that required. The dividend payment policy, as a guidance we have 10% of our free cash flow as dividends, and as all of there'll be a proposal to the shareholders for their approval in the coming AGM.

Reduce the foreign exposure to the frontier currencies we had said 10% to 15% over a period of 3 years, and we achieved 17% in 2025. Let's move to the next slide.

I'll be happy to walk you through the historical performance what we have achieved in the last couple of a few years so that we get a more context to what we did in 2025. On the revenue, these are all on the absolute currencies, not on constant currency.

That is how you can see we were about €52.8 million in 2020, rose to €72.4 in 2025, giving us a compounded annual growth of 6.5%. The EBIT trend as well, 2020 we were at 18.7, went up, again came down to 18.3 in 2022.

Later we have having a consistent EBIT margin. Over a period of time, in absolute terms, my EBIT has grown up by 6.5%.

Order book, we were at €32 million in 2020, and comparatively we grew to €80 million in 2023, came down slightly but in 2024 to 79.6. Again due to multiple large orders we got in 2025, the order book stands at 107.5, giving us again a 27.3% of annual compounded growth.

The free cash flow trend, which we we have been very closely monitoring, we had a negative 4.8 in 2022 whole year, and '23 we ended the year at negative €7.7 million. 2024, while the whole year we were at €1.8 million negative, this was mainly caused by a heavy loss in the Q1 of 2024 due to devaluation of one of the large currencies, and that had an impact of 4 million in Q1 of 2024.

I'm happy to report to the investors that post that Q1 2024, for the seven consecutive quarters, we do have a free cash flow. In 2025, we achieved a free cash flow of €4.6 million, which we have reported.

Can we move on to the next slide? Here I want to draw the attention of the investors not just for last 2 years, but 1 year prior to that.

The net sales in real currencies, we were at 78.4 in '23, reduced to 71.6. Again we had a slight growth of 72.4.

While in the absolute numbers it looks the growth is just 1%, I want to draw the attention in constant currency the growth was about 8%. We were heavily impacted in the last year by devaluation of USD against the euro.

That hit our revenues also and reduced our growth to just 1% in real terms, whereas in constant currency it should have been 8%. The EBIT, there's a slight improvement compared to the last 3 years from 23.8 to 25.6 in absolute terms.

As a percentage, last year we grew up by about 7%. Financial items, mainly the Forex losses what we get hit was slightly 10.1, slightly lower than the €11 million what we had in the previous year.

The taxes was slightly higher at 5.2 against 4.5 in the last year. Net income, which is an offshoot of all the expenses and the revenue, was at €10.2 million in the current year against 8.3 in the previous year.

The cash collection was at €58.4 million in 2025 against 51.2 in 2024. Again, while in real terms it is 14%, and again this also due to the currency devaluation of USD.

Order received, we were at 111.2, again backed by couple of large orders what we won in the current year against €71 million in the previous year. Order backlog, which is a consequential result of the new orders and the revenue that are recognized in a particular year, stood at 107.5 compared to 79.6.

The earning per share was at 0.6 against 0.5 in the last year, and in 2023 it was at before the reverse split of the shares at 0.04. The operating margin increase is notable at 35%.

Exchange rate losses in financial terms about €3.8 million we suffered in the current year mainly due to the weakening of dollar against weakening of dollar against euro. Positive free cash flow 4.6 is a reflection from a negative of 1.8 in the last year.

Orders backlog increased to 35% to over €107 million. Can we move on to the next slide?

Here I want to take just on the Q4 numbers, while in the previous slide I spoke about the whole year. Here I'm restricting it to only a quarter on quarter, the Q4 of each years in the last 3 years.

As we can see, Q4 of '25 had a better growth up to €19.5 million against 17.6 and 22.2 in Q4 of '23. The EBIT has grow up substantially from 7.9 in Q4 of '23 to 12.4 in Q4 of '25.

Financial items, while the dollar stabilized slightly in the later half of the year, still had a €5.3 million loss in the one quarter. Taxes amounted to 2.8.

Then the collection was at 15.3 compared to 10.3 in the Q4 of last year. Again order received was at 20.7 against 24 and 33 in the previous last quarters of '24 and '23.

Order backlog, again a result of the orders minus the revenue recognized at the end of the year remained at 107, and the EPS current year was at 0.25 in the last quarter. Net sale, while it was 11% on the actual Q4 of current year versus last year, in constant currency it was about 18% increase in the last quarter.

Operating margin in the last quarter we had a good operating margin at 64%, and free cash flow in the last quarter was €1.4 million against €400,000 in the previous year. Significant increase in Q4 EPS to 0.25.

Can we move on to the next slide? Now, while they are the hard numbers, I also wanted to share with our investors a little bit more about the customer profile what we have and a little bit about the business views.

If I take from 2020 to 2025, we always were heavily dependent on the legacy customers. In this case, I would like to call out Claro and MTN, two of our large customers as legacy customers.

As you could see, they were contributing to majority of my business in 2020. Over a period of time, we have tried to diversify, get new customers.

As you can see year on year, we added four new customers in 2020 and eight new customers in 2025. As you can see in the last 6 years, we have added 43 new customers since 2020.

This also gives us a potential opportunity for cross-sell and upsell as well. If you look at the customer longevity, you can see that I have more than 43% of the customers are which are less than 5 years, and 57% of my customers are more than 5 years.

This also gives a view that majority of my customers when they are once they become our customers continue to be a customer of Tecnotree for a long time. I'm sure that this 43%, which is less than 5 years, are the customers we added in the last few years and they will move into the other bucket as the years go by.

On the ARR and revenue, which is also a good indicator of our business performance, has been going up and down. We were about 47% in 2020 2020 and fell to about 35% in 2022.

Again we we have been making a conscious effort to move our up our ARR as a percentage of revenue, and in 2025 ARR constituted nearly 46% of my total revenue. High ARR revenues in 2019 from legacy customers, then we started in '22 to '23 change in the revenue mix, relatively lower ARR, and in the last 2 years we have moved more into stability and growth of ARR from 2024 project completion in new accounts and move to support.

I want to call out that consistent focus and increase in ARR with business model transformation is the way we look at the future. Can we move on to the next one?

Again if I come to 2025 revenue highlights, I want to give some more numbers to the investors. FY 25 my revenue was at 72.4, in real currency 1.2% year-on-year growth.

However, in constant currency we were at 77.4, which gave a 8.2% year-on-year growth, which is a fantastic achievement as far as our business areas we operating, where the growth in BSS market was anticipated around 2%. Q4 alone we did €19.5 million, which is about 11% year-on-year growth, and in constant currency we could have been at 20.8 at about 18.2% year-on-year growth.

ARR continues to increase year-on-year backed by DevOps and support revenues. Stable demand for the product product portfolio is what we are seeing.

Large-scale transformations are in progress, some of the large orders what we got in 2025. If you look at the revenue type, as you can see that between last year to current year, the licenses are slightly lower, deliveries are also slightly lower, but ARR is what has increased compared to last year to this year, which is a conscious business operation model we have adopted.

In '25 to '24 revenue by region, as you can see, we had a stable increase in EU and America region and almost same level of revenue from MEA and APAC coming into the company. Again at the order backlog as I can share, Europe and Americas has increased substantially from €13 million to about €25 million.

MEA and APAC has also gone up from €66.4 million to €82.6 million. Can we move on to the next slide?

Now I will also walk through the operating profit highlights what we have. In 2025 guidance, we had given an EBIT margin expansion between 200 basis points to 220 basis points, and CapEx to sales around 12%.

In reality, operating result of 25.6 against €23.8 million in the previous year, we had a 7.5 year-on-year growth in the operating result. Operating margin as a result of our revenue versus the cost what we have was at 35.3% against 33.2% in the previous year, gave an increase of 2.1 percentage points.

What are the EBIT drivers we have? One is ARR to net sales increased to 45.7 from 43.4, which gave our revenue more a stable outlook driven by DevOps and support contracts.

OpEx reduction as per the plan, which we commenced in Q2 of 2024. Then headcount efficiency improved with total personnel reducing to 704 against 758 while delivering higher revenue.

CapEx to sales also we reduced it by 4.8 percentage point to 13.4 against 18.2, slightly above the guidance what we had given at the beginning of the year due to investments which we had to make for delivering large transformation projects which we secured during the year. As you can see, EBIT margin evolution, you can see that in constant currency we grew by 7.9%.

The EBIT margin overall was at 33.2% in constant currency against 35.3 in real currency. Again the EBIT and the EBIT margin just on the Q4, we were at 46.5% and against 13.7 in the previous year.

The other point I want to bring it to the attention is the CapEx to sales ratio. As you know that as a product company, we need continuous improvement or continuous investment in our products.

As you can see, it was 11% in '22. We started developing the new digital platforms.

In '23 it was 14, and in '24 it went up to 18%. Last year we took a decision to normalize it, keep the percentage of investment in the products as a percentage of revenue, and this year we have brought it down to 13% from 18% of the last year.

Can we move on to the next slide, please? While the numbers we have presented, I also wanted to bring to the attention of some of the issues we continue to face, and one of them is a very large DSO days which we have been experiencing.

As I can say that in 2025 my total AR accounts receivable amounted to about €32.2 million. While not due out of this, not due in any case is a standard one month, which is which is very very rare we achieve, is about 34%, but more concerning is more than one-year receivables, which are sitting at about 31%.

While all my customers are very large telecom operators, but delay in collection from them is a point of concern, which are combination of the geographies we operate in, the countries we operate in, the currencies we operate in, while all efforts are taken to normalize that. As I can show in the next slide, in '23 Q1 my DSO days numbered 210.

While our collections were cyclical, it came down a little bit to 153 in Q4, again in the next quarter it went up to 202. Again cyclical, it came down to 145, again went up to 176, and brought down to 155, again went up to 175, and we have been making a conscious effort in bringing it down, and in the last quarters we are able to bring it down to 154 and 146 days.

Can we move on to the next slide? Again Tecnotree operates in multiple geographies and manages multiple currencies.

We had said that exposure to the frontier country Forex risk to 10% to 15% by 2027 in 3 years. FY 25 update was significant Forex impact of weakening dollar against euro in 2025.

Majority of our revenue comes in dollar, and when I report the numbers in euro, that affects significantly our performance. In 2025 we reduced our frontier currency exposure to 17%, a 10 percentage point reduction from the previous year.

Strategic focus on Tier 1 accounts and growth in mature and dollar-denominated markets continue as a part of Tecnotree strategy. On the other side, I have given the way dollar has weakened against euro.

As you can that substantially it has decreased in the last year, and that has hit our performance significantly. Again percentage of revenue in the volatile currency, as we said that in '24 27% of my revenue was coming from these volatile currencies, what we call as a frontier currencies, and that reduced to 17% in 2025.

Can we move on to the next one? As a as a point here in the previous slide, when I say volatile currency, dollar is not included in that, while it was a very volatile in the last 1 year.

Now I'll present the summary of my assets and liabilities, which is which is the balance sheet presentation. My intangible assets grew up substantially mainly because of additional investment in the product offerings, and also a new accounting principle for capitalizing the lease assets for a office what we have in India as per the IFRS under the right-of-use assets.

Then trade and other receivable increased by 5.8% compared to the last year. Our cash and cash equivalent was driven by free cash flow generated in the operations.

Again in the noncurrent liabilities, you can see that there is a increase due to the same increase due to the IFRS lease accounting in India where you recognize both assets and liabilities for the future rent payable in our books as asset and liability. The trade payable slightly increased to 16.5 at the end of the year.

The current interest-bearing liabilities came down to €3.5 million. The other noncurrent liabilities also came down slightly, and the other noncurrent interest-bearing liabilities, as I shared, is due to the lease accounting for the India office.

The compulsorily convertible debentures at the end of the year remained consistent at the same value, and the rest of the numbers are as presented. Can we move on to the next slide?

Now let's take a minute to look what are the 2025 takeaways. The three points I want to highlight as a finance performance for 2025 are, one, we do have a healthy financial performance.

We were able to achieve our parameters based on the guidance what we had given despite significant impact of dollar devaluation during the year. Positive free cash flow for every quarter of the year.

This has been consecutively for last seven quarters. Then order book at a all-time high.

These are the three top takeaways for me in 2025. Can we move on to the next slide, please?

Now let's spend a minute on what we have guided for 2026. In for 2026, it's a continuation of our strategy to drive higher returns and more free cash flow for our shareholders.

We have given a guidance of low to mid single-digit growth as a revenue growth in constant currency, but in free cash flow, which is in real currency, we are anticipating to achieve above €5 million in the year. Free cash flow guidance 2026 based on our company's current market outlook, exchange rate assumption, especially the devaluation of US dollar against the euro, and reflects our best estimates at this point of time.

Can we move? These were the presentations from my side.

I will hand it over to our moderator Thomas. If there are any specific questions, we can try to answer them.

Thomas Koponen

Thank you, Indiresh. In regards to the time remaining, we have received questions, and we have also received multiple questions with the same theme.

I have combined three of the questions because there's the same theme, and that was the most often theme in these questions. If you're ready, let's go to the question and answers.

In the reports, what are the provisions taken for, and what are these including? Are there any more provisions or write-downs coming for 2026?

Are there write-offs? Is this Iran-related as last year's annual report mentioned write-offs on the 10.6 million?

Has that business been sold to anybody? The report now said 3.1 million in sale-related receivables and 3.1 million in accounts, in total, the report stated 6.2 million in one-offs.

Please explain.

Indiresh Vivekananda

Thank you. Thank you, Thomas.

That's a great question. Let me clarify.

There are two parts into this. One, a write-off of a old business, discontinued business, which we discontinued way back in 2023.

The other one is a write-off of my accounts receivable. The first part, as all of us know in Tecnotree, we did have a business operation which we discontinued in 2023 June.

We had anticipated a lot of inflow from them, which was recorded at that time, the receipt from the customer which was due. That particular geography underwent a lot of risk in both geopolitical thing and also economic wind-down.

We did have a considerable discussions with them. We found many ways of trying to help them and recover the money from them, but unfortunately we were not able to.

The ground reality there is the situation is still very volatile. We're not sure when we are going to get back, while the efforts will continue to recover that money.

As a prudent accountant, I felt we should write it off in our books to show a better strength in our balance sheet, and we did write off. Yes, this amounts to the discontinued business operations in the company.

The second one also relates to certain customers who came to us on a business which we discontinued, which was not a focus for us. This came from the acquisition we made in 2022 December.

That company did have certain receivables from a industries which was not focused to the Tecnotree's focus in telecommunication business. There also we tried to recover the money, and we decided in the best interest of the company there's no point in chasing the business which are not focused to our operations, and hence the receivable from those customers have also been written off.

Thomas Koponen

Thank you, Indiresh. What proportion of your order book backlog is annual recurring revenue?

Is there a percentage that you can give?

Indiresh Vivekananda

I can give a range. It's anywhere between 40% to 50%.

As you know that our focus is on to get more into ARR business, which is more of an OpEx model to the customers, but still there are a lot of customers who still prefer to operate on a CapEx model, and I can say that it's around 40% to 50%.

Thomas Koponen

Thank you. How much do you expect the US dollar to weaken against the euro?

Indiresh Vivekananda

That's a great question. I wish I had an answer to that.

Unfortunately, it's very difficult to predict. I'm sure that all of us know how the world economy operates today.

Nothing is certain. We do certain things in certain countries, and again there are court rulings, there are geopolitical things, there are currency things, there are a lot of things.

As a finance person personally, what I wish to do it, I keep a track of these movements very closely. As a company, we follow these trends very closely and try to anticipate to minimize the risk for us.

That's all I can say. I do not have a hard number to say how much the dollar is going to devalue.

Thomas Koponen

In the Q4 report, there was a €3.5 million new loan. What was this for?

Indiresh Vivekananda

It's not a new loan. I think if you look at my report, it says that, okay, the way we present in our financial reports, we take what is a loan at the beginning of the period, we take what are the repayments made out of it, and again add what are the new loans that are taken.

I think I had explained in one of our discussion that we do have the short-term loans, which are more like a bill discountings, which we take at the particular point of a quarter, again repay it, and again they are rediscounted. That is how you see additional, and I'm sure that you can also see in that table there's a €4 million repayment as well.

They are not new loans per se.

Thomas Koponen

Explain what is the unexpired lease value, because that one grew in the reports as well. Yeah.

Indiresh Vivekananda

As you know that we signed up for a five-year lease for our offices in India, which we got at a very good economical value. As per the accounting policy, any unexpired lease period for the future years, you need to compute based on a internal rate of return and recognize both asset and liability for that.

This is as per the IFRS, and the same way we have computed that.

Thomas Koponen

Is the company expecting significant growth in Europe as it has hired sales people in Europe?

Indiresh Vivekananda

Yes, that's the anticipation for the company to grow in all the regions. We do have sales people in all the regions, and yes, there is a focus.

We want to do it. This is a beginning, and we expect to grow in all the regions.

We have given a guidance that my frontier currency exposure should come down to about 17% in 3 years, and we are aiming to do that.

Thomas Koponen

35% growth in the order book, and why is the guidance for 2026 revenue so modest?

Indiresh Vivekananda

One, as a finance person, I have to be very conservative. I have to guide what we knew at this point of time.

Again, all these contracts do not represent a revenue in 1 year. For example, one of the large contract we signed was for a multiyear business for us.

I recognize revenue only to the extent what I achieve in a particular year. Hence, even though I have a very order book on my hand, I have to be conservatively guide what we know at this point of time.

That is how we are moderate in our guidance.

Thomas Koponen

Do you have a dividend for this year?

Indiresh Vivekananda

There is a policy, which is a declared policy that 10% of my free cash flow should be distributed as dividends. Again, as you know that dividend is something which our shareholders have to approve.

We do have our upcoming AGM scheduled on 7th April. We submit it to the shareholders, and it depends on them to approve them.

Thomas Koponen

What factors are affecting the cash flow positively or negatively in 2026? Is it working capital, investments, profitability, question mark?

Indiresh Vivekananda

It's a combination of multiple things. One is how do you manage your current receivables and payables, that is one way of doing it.

Increasing our collections from the business, that is the biggest driver of it. Reducing of our cost is also another factor.

I say that any free cash flow are affected by the business income, the way you manage your receivables and the payables, and also the way you manage the cost. All these are combinations which have helped us to turn our into a positive free cash flow for seven quarters.

Thomas Koponen

We are over time, but I'll take the last question. This is regarding the guidance outlook, and if you had made assumptions about the dollar value in the future and regarding our crystal ball, can you say that out loud that we have made that assumption or should we just state it in the free cash flow in constant currency?

Indiresh Vivekananda

No. Our free cash flow is always on the real currency because that is what I believe the real money is.

The basis of the assumption is as it is today. As the things go on, as things become more and more clear, we'll come out with more guidance refinement at some point of time.

They are all as of today what it is.

Thomas Koponen

Thank you. Those were all the questions for the Q4 webcast.

For those wanting to meet Tecnotree, we will be next week in Barcelona for the Mobile World Congress. Please follow our LinkedIn for more information.

I think it's in Hall 2. The specific exhibition number will be on the LinkedIn page.

Thank you so much for tuning in. In the next upcoming weeks, there will be an announcement regarding the annual report, expected to be in week 11, and also the AGM notice as the Annual General Meeting is still scheduled for April 7th in 2026 in Finland.

Thank you so much for listening, and have a good day.

Indiresh Vivekananda

Thank you. Thank you, everyone.

Have a good day.