Cabka N.V.

Cabka N.V.

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Q4 FY2025 · Earnings Call TranscriptMarch 5, 2026

Alexander Masharov

Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining our full year 2025 results call. Before we begin discussing the results, I would like to start by saying that 2025 has been a year of transformation for us at Cabka.

In a volatile market, we deliberately focused on stabilizing the business. Revenues ended the year flat, in line with our guidance.

More importantly, we executed our Shift program with discipline, improving margins, strengthening cash generation, and significantly reducing debt. We have reset the foundation.

From our improved financial position, we expect to make further advances in 2026, which is what we already outlined in our Capital Markets update in November last year. To reiterate, we have clear two-phase roadmap to 2030.

The coming 12 months will see us continue Phase 1 of that plan, namely to target operational excellence and organic growth. For 2026, we expect improved revenues and higher EBITDA margins as we continue building a stronger Cabka.

I'll move now on to discuss the operational highlights of 2025, before handing over to Mark, who will go into more detail in our financial performance over the full year of 2025, followed by a Q&A session. I'll keep this slide brief, as I think most of you on the call are well aware of who we are and our strategy.

Cabka is vertically integrated circular packaging company. We control the value chain from waste sourcing and recycling through to design, manufacturing, and finished product.

That integration is not cosmetic; it is actually structural. It gives us cost control, material security, technical flexibility, and ESG credibility across the full value chain.

In a market where sustainability, supply security, and performance matter more than ever, this model is a clear competitive advantage. As mentioned earlier, 2025 marked a decisive turning point for Cabka, restoring financial strength and improving our earnings.

Despite continued market challenges, we stabilized revenues at 180 million, broadly flat year-on-year. Mark will go into details later on, but most importantly, profitability improved significantly.

Gross margins increased to 51.3%, and operating margin reached 11.7%. Achieving this level of margin expansion on a flat revenue demonstrates the structural nature of improvements we have made.

I would like to emphasize that these gains are not temporary; they reflect pricing discipline, portfolio optimization, cost control, and stronger production planning. Over 2025, our Shift program delivered where it mattered most, in cash generation.

Combined with disciplined capex, this allowed us to reduce net debt to 62.6 million and lower leverage to 2.7. The result is stronger balance sheet, improved financial flexibility, and significantly reduced risk profile.

We move now into 2026 from a position of strength. I would now like to give you some highlights from our business segments, which are evidence of our resilience and targeted repositioning.

In Europe, both our Portfolio and Customized Solutions segments saw continuing headwinds, particularly in the first half of the year, as customers delayed investment decisions amid macroeconomic uncertainty and potential tariff impacts. There was also some impact from phasing effects at clients, but we expect this to reverse in 2026.

Contract manufacturing emerged as the clear success story. Europe and the US both saw strong growth.

In Europe, the segment rebounded substantially, driven by renewed customer engagement and improved end-market conditions. Our Eco-products business also continued its steady expansion, benefiting from sustained demand for sustainable construction and infrastructure products made from post-consumer plastic waste.

Taken together, our segments' performance reflects a more balanced and diversified revenue base from which we continue our growth trajectory in 2026 and beyond. In the United States, we implemented an aggressive pricing strategy.

While this weighted on pricing, it supported volume growth and strengthened our competitive position, particularly in the second half of the year. As I mentioned on the last slide, the increased focus on contract manufacturing in the USA was one of the clear success stories of 2025 and allowed us to significantly increase capacity utilization at our St.

Louis facility, contributing to improved operational leverage and supporting the overall US recovery. Before I hand over to Mark, I would like to just touch on product development.

This is still one of our core advantages, and we will continue to invest in this in 2026 despite overall lower capex. The key here is discipline in capex allocation.

Despite our low capex number in 2025, we actually increased the number of new products. You might ask how we did this, and the simple answer is we didn't participate in any speculative development with uncertain payoffs.

For 2026, we will continue to focus on products and projects where we see high return certainty. Now, I'd like to hand over to Mark, who will run you in more detail through our financial performance.

Mark Letterie

Thank you, Alex. I'm pleased to be able to say to you that Cabka has exited 2025 in a stronger position than it entered the year.

Over the course of 2025, we have managed to improve our margin quality, strengthen our operational discipline, and materially reduced our leverage. Most importantly, we have shown that profitability can expand even in a stable revenue environment.

This tells me that the underlying platform is robust, and from a leadership perspective, this is the right starting point. In 2026, we no longer need to focus solely on resilience; we can now prepare for scalable, profitable growth.

Let's take a look at the figures for 2025, and you will see the numbers show improvements, but I believe they understate the transformation that the organization has gone through over the last year. The company has become more resilient, cost-conscious, and ambitious.

Sales for the year were stable, coming in at 180 million. Our growing product portfolio helped diversify sales over different segments, which helped keep revenue stable while we were able to slightly improve our gross margins.

Our net debt reduced by 9.2 million. This is a significant improvement and strengthens our capital ratios.

I would like to highlight that the percentage of recycled material used for production was 86%. This was a 2% drop compared to last year, but remains industry-leading.

This small reduction was due to two large contracts that require the use of food-grade virgin plastics. Cabka's vertically integrated supply chain for recycled plastics feedstocks remain a strategic competitive advantage, especially when virgin plastic prices increase, in addition to being a key metric for our sustainability goals.

The full year EBITDA margin came in at 11.7% and reflects strong cost control, aided by slightly lower material costs. On the working capital slide, and I will come back to this in a later slide, but I'm happy to be able to show an overall improvement.

Net income from operations declined to a 6 million loss, which was slightly worse, but I would like to point out that this is due to taxation and a higher financial expenses line, and not because of operational performance, which was, in fact, better. Let me briefly walk you through our regional performance and revenue mix for 2025.

As Alex has already mentioned, strength in contract manufacturing has been the standout story of 2025 and compensated for some weakness in other areas. The final quarter of last year showed high utilization, supporting our margin performance.

I would also like to flag the improved product mix at Cabka GmbH & Co. KG in Weira, which meant higher utilization of our low pressure lines, structurally more profitable, thereby boosting overall factory utilization and profitability levels.

At the same time, I'm pleased to report that the strength in contract manufacturing resulted in a meaningful increase in our US capacity utilization. Turning to our geographic footprint, our revenue base remains well diversified, with Europe representing the largest share of group revenue, complemented by a solid contribution from North America.

Within Europe, DACH and West and Nordics continue to be our strongest regions, providing a stable and recurring revenue base. Southern Europe and CEE add further diversification, while North America generated 23.4 million in revenue, demonstrating the strategic importance of our US platform.

This balanced regional exposure supports resilience across cycles, reduces concentration risk, and allows us to flex capacity across our production network where demand is strongest. Over 2025, our operational gross margin improved to 51.3%, driven by a favorable product mix and some material cost reductions.

At the same time, our operating margin improved to 11.7%, driven by continued cost control of personnel and operating expenses. We want to prevent cost creep for higher volumes and have continuous focus on reducing waste and expenses where possible.

Cash from operations improved by 3.8 million to 20.3 million, driven by a 2 million better net result for the year and a 2 million reduction in inventory. Gross operating profit was broadly flat year-on-year.

However, we were able to maintain profitability and even marginally improve the gross margin pull-through from revenues. Operational EBITDA improved by 3% to 21.1 million, at 11.7% of revenues.

Depreciation costs went down to 0.8 million—by 0.8 million. Lower needed capital expenditures will have a beneficial impact in the coming years, since what we spend in capex is less than the replacement rate.

The total net loss is lower in 2025, 7.4 million versus 2024, 9.4 million, showing a 2 million improvement. The total net loss from operations was somewhat higher, due to a higher tax payment and higher financial result expenses.

However, if you exclude those effects, the net income would actually be 0.6 million higher. Turning to our net debt development, which saw a significant improvement, in fact, we were able to reduce our net debt by slightly more than 9 million year-on-year, in line with our stated aim of strengthening our balance sheet and improving our debt ratios.

We will continue to focus on this metric, as our aim is to show a gradual, sustained improvement in our debt position and debt-over-EBITDA ratios. This will allow us to maintain balance sheet flexibility and, in the longer term, will make it possible to participate in expansion opportunities as and where they arise.

As I already mentioned, our net working capital at year-end was relatively stable at 15.7% of revenues. Within this, we reduced inventories as part of the Shift program, while trade receivables remained broadly stable.

There was some small decrease in trade payables related to machinery installations, totaling €4 million. If we would exclude these one-offs, net working capital would have shown a year-on-year improvement.

We see further potential to improve working capital in 2026, especially related to trade payables, as payment terms are easing as a consequence of our improved balance sheet. Reducing working capital and reducing the cash conversion cycle remains a key priority and will help reduce debt and improve EBITDA.

We have kept our capital investments limited in 2025. Looking back, we are satisfied that we were able to invest where it will have the biggest impact for future growth.

The replacement and maintenance investments are relatively small compared to previous years. However, do note that the other operating expenses also include 5 million in repair and maintenance expenses, which are expensed directly.

Overall, we were able to save on capex while keeping our operational capacity intact. Now I will hand back to Alex, who will tell you more about our guidance for 2026.

Alexander Masharov

Thank you, Mark. Looking ahead to 2026, we do not assume a broad market recovery.

Competitive intensity remains high, and pricing discipline across the industry will continue to matter. However, our outlook is based on what we can control.

We have strengthened our portfolio, increased product launches with higher return certainty, improved operational efficiency, and reinforced our balance sheet. With disciplined execution and continuing focus on innovation, we expect to deliver revenue growth and further EBITDA margin expansion in 2026.

Our objective is clear: to outperform the market through operational excellence and focused capital allocation. In closing, let me return to our long-term strategy.

2025 was a year of stabilization and structural improvement. We strengthened margins, cash generation, and balance sheet.

Cabka is now operating from a more solid foundation. Looking ahead, our path to 2030 is clear and disciplined.

Phase 1 is about maximizing the potential of what we already have. We will further improve utilization in Europe and the US, optimize product mix, and drive operational excellence.

This supports continued margin expansion, stronger cash flow, and even more robust balance sheet, all while maintaining disciplined capex. At the same time, we are building the engines of Phase 2.

Our initiatives in Eco and chemical recycling position us for accelerated organic growth. Stronger financial position and improved operating performance will be well placed to capitalize on consolidation opportunities as they arise.

Our ambition is straightforward: to build Cabka into a stronger, more profitable, and more strategic player in our industry. Thank you for your attention.

Operator, please open the line for questions.

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We are now going to proceed with our first question. The questions come from the line of Luuk Van Beek from Degroof Petercam.

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Luuk van Beek

Yes, good morning. A question about the costs, which you brought down quite nicely over the last year, and you indicated that you want to avoid cost creep going forward.

Does that mean that we can use, let's say, the run rate of costs that we saw in H2 going forward, or is there any other factor that you take into account?

Mark Letterie

Thank you, Luuk. What I can say is that we will always see some inflation during the year, but we want to prevent any general cost creep, and we want to keep our costs steady compared to the production volume.

We are not anticipating any major cost-cutting measures will be required this year. We want to maintain the cost-over-volume relation.

Then

Luuk van Beek

I have a question about your gross margin, which also went up well in '25, but obviously the world is changing at the moment. You mentioned the virgin plastic prices coming up.

I assume that has a positive impact on your competitiveness, but also the energy prices are going up. To what extent are you covered against that in your contracts?

Mark Letterie

Thank you, Luuk. Indeed, we can expect some energy cost increases.

I think we are well covered there. We have hedges in place, but I do not want to provide specifics due to competitive implications of that.

Luuk van Beek

Then you mentioned that there was an impact of phasing in the pooling activities. Can you be a bit more specific and should we see the reverse effect in 2026?

Mark Letterie

Alex, is this a question you can take?

Alexander Masharov

Can you repeat the question, please? Sure.

Luuk, can you repeat the question, the last part of the question, please?

Luuk van Beek

The question was that in pooling in Europe you saw a negative impact of phasing last year. Can you explain what you saw exactly and if we should expect a reversal, positive effect in '26?

Alexander Masharov

Yes. We did see a slowdown last year.

Pooling are huge companies that are very sensitive into investments, because most of our pooling projects are co-investments and very much dependent on the poolers themselves and their capex allocations. In addition, most of the business we have with poolers, if it's a long-term deals, they take quite a long time.

With that said, we do see a different trend already in 2026 with the poolers, because part of the projects that were in '25 will be commercialized in 2026. We are expecting a better performance from the pooling industry in 2026, absolutely.

Luuk van Beek

Okay. I'll leave it with this for now.

Thank you.

Alexander Masharov

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. We are now going to proceed with our next question.

The questions come from the line of Ellis Acklin from First Berlin. Please ask your question.

Ellis Acklin

Yes, good morning, gentlemen. Thank you for the detailed presentation and a chance to ask a couple of questions.

I've got two to start off with here. First, regarding the contract manufacturing, which rebounded quite strongly in '25, just wondering how we should think about the sustainability of this growth, its margin profile relative to your other segments, RTP and Eco products, and whether you still see this as a tactical stopgap for 2026?

That would be my first question. Then secondly, nice job on getting the leverage improved.

Clearly, your working capital and capex discipline is helping. I just want to understand clearly, does this mean that you're now comfortable in shifting from stabilization more towards offensive growth initiatives this year?

Alexander Masharov

Thank you. Good questions.

Regarding contract manufacturing rebounding in 2025, mainly as the demand from some key partners has normalized after a weak period. This is why it grew up again for us.

The activity plays an important role in supporting capacity utilization in our plants. We do see it sustainable, very much sustainable.

At the same time, we remain very disciplined. We focus on partnerships that make sense economically and that fit our operational capabilities.

While contract manufacturing can fluctuate with customer demand, we see it's stable, supporting activity rather than the core driver of our long-term growth. To your question, it is sustainable and it will naturally move with customer demand cycle.

To the second question regarding the growth via stabilization, yes, indeed. As I've mentioned before, 2025 was in order to stabilize the company and prepare it for growth.

That's what we are aiming to do in 2026 and forward. We would like to grow the company on the top line and on the bottom line now that the company has the right foundation and there is discipline and governance in place.

It allows us to move faster into growth.

Ellis Acklin

Thank you for that. I'll jump back in the line for right now and see if I have anything later on.

Alexander Masharov

Sure. Thanks, Ellis.

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We are now going to proceed with our next question. The questions come from the line of Usama Tariq from ABN AMRO ODDO BHF.

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Usama Tariq

Hi, good morning, team. I hope I'm audible.

Thank you for the opportunity. I have just one set of questions, two particular.

For 2026, can you provide a sort of a color on how you see Portfolio, Customized Solutions, Eco, and contract manufacturing going forward? We saw a strong performance from Eco and contract manufacturing.

Do you expect that to continue into 2026? That would be my first question.

My second question would be on capex. We've seen a very significant decline in capex.

For 2026, do you expect it to be in line with the gross value of 11 million, or do you move more cuts there for 2026? Those would be my two questions.

Thank you.

Alexander Masharov

Thanks, Osama. Regarding the 2026 outline according to business sales, we still see that the market is recovering, and we do not see a big jump into into a lot of opportunities because it's very competitive market, especially on price.

We see already that the portfolio is performing according to our expectations. Actually, contract manufacturing is in line with our H2 growth and very stable, as well as Eco.

At least at the first two months, we are very confident about what we want to achieve. We don't see any downscaling from the performance of H2.

That gives us a positive positivity that we can continue growing in 2026. That has to do aligned with all our commercial opportunities.

Regarding the capex question, we've been very strict and very disciplined regarding capex in 2025. Yet, we didn't sacrifice any product development.

I would say we've probably done our utmost into lowering the capex to its minimum. I wouldn't like to see more more more sacrifice in capex because product development is extremely important for us, and thus we would like to keep the same the same the same level of capex in 2026 because that level of capex allows us to allows us to perform, allows us to produce new products, allows us to develop new products.

Hopes that answers the question, Osama.

Usama Tariq

Yes. Very very grateful for the answers.

Maybe if I can just quickly squeeze in one last question from my part, something on regulatory side. In a lot of segments, we are seeing the European Union appears to be opening up to delaying some of the renewable-related regulations.

My question is with regards to the PPWR. What do you see in the market?

Do you see it getting implemented? Do you see queries?

Do you see any risk that the implementation may get delayed for one or two more years? Could you provide some color there if possible?

Thank you.

Alexander Masharov

Yeah. I don't see it delaying.

I see customers maybe delaying their preparation for PPWR. Currently, we see it in line with the timeline of the EU.

We are prepared. That's more important.

As I said, I think many times, for us, it's PPWR, it's not a strategy; it's a tailwind. We try and help our customers as a partner to prepare for this legislation.

Part of those customers and partners are very much in line. Part of them are a bit late, I would say.

We don't see currently any indication of that delaying or that legislation is to be delayed. Might be, by the way, but currently I haven't seen it.

Usama Tariq

All right. Thank you.

That would be all from my side. Thank you.

Operator

We are now going to proceed with our next question. The questions come from the line of Luuk Van Beek from Degroof Petercam.

Please ask your question.

Luuk van Beek

Yes, I have two further questions. One is on the spare capacity, especially in the US.

It's obviously partly filled up with an increasing contract manufacturing, but do you have any spare capacity left?

Alexander Masharov

I think we need to split that question in two. We do have capacity in, for example, low pressure.

We have much less capacity in high pressure. That if we talk about Europe.

In the US, we do have still capacity to perform and to get more contract manufacturing in if requests come in. I would say everything that has to do with contract manufacturing, it's always a balance between what we have to produce and what we need to produce.

We always evaluate any opportunity. Never say no from the starting point.

We know how to balance the demand and produce to stock if needed, or not.

Luuk van Beek

My second question is on the impact of factoring. Can you give a number for what it was at the end of the year?

Alexander Masharov

You mean financial factoring?

Luuk van Beek

Yes.

Alexander Masharov

Mark,

Mark Letterie

can you answer this one? Thank you for the question, Luuk.

We have set up a factoring facility for a couple of entities. Typically, the balance is somewhere between 6 to 8 million.

Luuk van Beek

Thank you. That's all my questions for now.

Operator

We have no further questions at this time on the phone, I'll hand back to you for the written questions. Thank you.

Alexander Masharov

All right. I think we can go on to the questions that are asked on the chat, is that right?

I think the first question was from Joost. The question is, "Sales is hardly increasing despite the efforts to increase the sales force.

How can you change this and make a significant increase sales, specifically in the US? Thank you."

Joost, to that question, that's a very fair observation. The increase in the sales organization in '25 was preliminary about building the commercial engine after a period where the company was very internally focused on restructuring and stabilization.

The impact usually of strengthening the sales team typically comes with a lag, particularly in our industry where customers' qualification cycles are quite long. What we are already seeing is significantly stronger pipeline.

The US remains a key strategic growth region for Cabka with local production site in St. Louis, improved commercial coverage, and new products that are coming this year and also years to come.

We believe we are well-positioned to convert this pipeline into revenue growth over the coming periods, but it is a process. I hope that answers the question.

The next question we have is from Peter: "Can you explain the sales and leaseback? What assets does it concern?

What were the transaction parameters? What was the effective transaction date?"

Mark Letterie

Thank you, Alex. I can take this one.

The sale and leaseback arrangement is a structured financing tool that optimizes our capital structure while maintaining operational use of the asset. The ongoing lease obligations are reflected in our IFRS 16 liabilities.

What are the transaction parameters? They are competitive.

In terms of timing, I can say that whenever we do a capital investment, we assess what is the best way to finance this asset. Then we consider both financing from debt, but also financing from a lease and or sale and leaseback arrangement.

What assets can be considered? It's usually machines, assets that have a liquid market value.

Those can be considered for a sale and leaseback setup.

Alexander Masharov

All right. I think we have the next question coming up from Robert: "How significant will tailwinds be for Cabka for the EU packaging and packaging waste regulations, which have the PPWR, and when do you expect large enterprises to redesign packaging/transport to anticipate complying with PPWR?"

I think I've answered that a little bit previously to Osama, but the PPWR is clearly supportive for companies like Cabka that are already operating with recycled materials and circular transport packaging solutions. Our products are designed around reuse, durability, recycled content, and which actually aligns well with the direction of the regulation.

That said, the transition in large supply chains take time. As I said before, large enterprises typically redesign logistical systems gradually rather than overnight.

We actually expect the regulatory framework to increasingly influence decision over the coming years, particularly as companies prepare their packaging logistics networks to comply with those regulations. For us, it's less a short-term spike and more a structural tailwind supporting demand for circular transport packaging in the future.

That's the best answer I can give now for such a question.

Mark Letterie

Thank you, Alex. Maybe I can take the next one from Martijn Kok: "Is there a possibility that Cabka will extend the duration and lower the strike prices of the two outstanding warrants, DSCW2 and DSCW3?

This way, the original investors might still have a chance to recoup some of their losses." At the moment, we do not have plans to propose changes to the terms of these warrants.

As management, it's also not within our mandate to do this. It would require a very complex legal process and a separate EGM.

Our focus right now is on improving the business. Thank you for the question, Martijn.

Alexander Masharov

I don't see any more questions, do we? Yeah.

Patrick, thank you. "Will interest go down significantly now Cabka is in a better shape and with lower net debt?"

The answer is yes. I'll let Mark answer that question.

Mark Letterie

Yeah. Yes, thank you, Patrick.

Indeed, we have an arrangement where the leverage has an influence on the interest that we pay, and we see that coming down as a consequence of the reduction in leverage. The answer is yes.

Alexander Masharov

I think we don't have any more questions in the chat.

Operator

We have one more question on the phone lines.

Alexander Masharov

Please stand by.

Operator

Thank you.

Alexander Masharov

Let's take that one.

Operator

The questions come from the line of Ellis Acklin from First Berlin. Please ask your question.

Ellis Acklin

Hey, guys. Thanks for letting me squeeze one last question in here.

I was wondering if maybe you could give us an update on what you're seeing with the pricing of plastics in the market the past few months, if there's been any change at all. I know that your ability to fully leverage your vertical integration is kind of hinges on that, any sort of commentary on that would be appreciated.

Thank you.

Alexander Masharov

Ellis, you're asking about prices of raw material?

Ellis Acklin

If

Alexander Masharov

I understand it correctly. Great question, especially at the times we live in today.

They were quite flat at the beginning of the year with slightly increasing, but I would like us to wait a bit into any prognosis on raw material pricing with what's happening now in the Middle East, as we don't know how that will affect energy prices, raw material prices, oil prices. Let's be very cautious about any answer I can give you on that one.

The only thing I can tell you that we are very much prepared for any situation, and the fact that we are backward integrated helps us a lot, even if those material prices skyrocket.

Ellis Acklin

Okay. Fair answer.

Thank you very much for that.

Alexander Masharov

Thank you, Ellis. I see we don't have any more questions.

With that said, I would like to thank you all for participating and asking the questions. I would like also to thank my team and Mark for preparing this.

Wish everyone a safer world. Thank you very much and have a great day.