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Q2 FY2026 · Earnings Call TranscriptFebruary 15, 2026

Operator

I would now like to hand the conference over to Sam Fischer, Chief Executive Officer and Managing Director. Please go ahead.

Sam Fischer

Thank you, operator. Good morning and thank you for joining Treasury Wine Estates' 2026 interim results briefing.

Joining me on the call today is Stuart Boxer, our Chief Financial and Strategy Officer. You may notice that our divisional leaders aren't on today's call, which is a shift in how we would like to present our results moving forward, with Stuart and I to lead this forum while allowing the rest of the team to remain fully focused on the business and our commercial execution.

Going forward, we will of course provide opportunities for you to engage with the broader leadership team, including at our Investor Day in early June and other engagement events that our investor relations team will lead. Turning now to the key messages that we'd like you to take away from today's announcement, which are an update on the key areas we laid out in our update in mid-December.

In first half 2026, EBITS of $236 million was just ahead of the guidance range from December, and statutory NPAT was a loss of $626 million driven by the non-cash impairment of US assets that again we announced on the 1st of December. While the headline results announced today are clearly disappointing, they also reflect the decisive action we are taking to return TWE to a path of long-term sustainable profitable growth.

In recent months, we've cleared some major hurdles, and I'm feeling optimistic and energized about the future business we are creating. A key driver of this optimism comes from the positive underlying performance of the business, with depletions growth continuing in key markets and across key brands, most notably Penfolds' continued delivery of strong depletions growth in China and in the US outside of California, where Treasury Americas' depletions grew against broader market weakness.

I'll talk in some more detail about depletions shortly. Retaining the strength of our capital structure is a key priority.

We reported leverage at 2.4 times, in line with guidance. Our decision to suspend payment of the F26 interim dividend is a temporary measure that reflects clear and definitive action to reduce our balance sheet gearing towards our target levels.

Resumption of the dividends will be the subject of future financial performance and our leverage improvement trajectory. This action is just one element of an active program we are undertaking focused on meaningful capital preservation initiatives, elevating our focus on costs and cash, and we will cover this in greater detail later in the presentation.

We are also taking decisive action to maintain the strength of our brands and the health of our distribution channels. In the half, we significantly reduced Penfolds shipments in order to restrict parallel import activity.

We also commenced our planned reduction of US and China customer inventory, which will continue over the next two years in line with the timeline we presented in December. As announced last week, we reached a settlement agreement with RNDC, bringing clarity to our route to market in the US.

We are pleased to have reached this conclusion, with RNDC remaining a committed partner to TWE. We also look forward to partnering with Reyes Beverage Group in six states once that planned transaction takes place later this year.

Finally, TWE Ascend, our multi-year transformation program, is progressing at pace, and our confidence in our ability to execute the change required is high, with plans and targets to be presented at our Investor Day in Sydney in early June. It's been a busy couple of months since we last spoke, with many positive developments as we work towards creating a stronger future TWE business.

Turning now to the first half '26 financial performance and some key metrics. Three key factors impacted top-line performance, including category trends, particularly in the US and China; our deliberate focus on restricting Penfolds shipments that were contributing to parallel import activity; and the cycling of elevated shipments in the prior-year period.

NSR per case fell 5%, primarily impacted by reduced ultra-luxury sales in Penfolds, which were disproportionately impacted by our actions to reduce parallel and inventory in China. EBITS margin also decreased 7 percentage points to 18.2%, driven by the change in sales mix and higher cost of doing business from the operating model.

ROCE declined 1.7 percentage points to 9.5%, driven by the decline in EBITS. Pre-material items, net profit after tax was $128 million and EPS of 15.8 cents per share.

As I mentioned earlier, we have made the decision to suspend the F26 interim dividend as an important temporary measure. Turning now to divisional performance, where final delivery in each division was slightly ahead of the expectations we set in December.

Penfolds delivered EBITS of $201 million. The result reflected the restriction of shipments contributing to parallel import activity in China and the cycling of an elevated level of shipments in the prior period associated with the initial distribution build following the removal of tariffs on Australian wine.

Pleasingly, demand for Penfolds brand remains strong across key markets, with great in-market execution driving continued depletions growth. The heartland of the portfolio, Bin 389 and 407, continued to perform well.

Penfolds F26 EBITS is expected to be approximately $400 million, with EBITS margin expected to be approximately 40%. Treasury Americas delivered EBITS of $44 million.

The result reflected the moderation in US luxury wine market sales, disruption from the Californian distribution transition, and cycling the excess of shipments to depletions in the prior period. We saw some good momentum outside of California, with key brands showing ahead of category depletions growth.

TWE also outperformed the category in on-premise, led by DAOU, Frank Family, and Stags' Leap. Treasury Americas' full-year '26 EBITS is expected to be approximately $90 million, excluding the impacts of the RNDC settlement.

Treasury Collective delivered EBITS of $28.1 million in the half. The result was driven by weaker sales in the US, with the softer US market conditions and the impact of the California distribution transition also impacting performance here, in addition to the reduction of customer inventory by approximately 200,000 cases.

The Treasury Collective portfolio continues to perform in line with expectations in Australia and EMEA, with the impact of commercial volume declines partially offset by the momentum behind the growth and innovation portfolio, with gains led by Pepperjack, Matua, and Squealing Pig. For Treasury Collective, second-half 2026 EBITS is expected to be higher than the first half.

Turning now to depletions performance, which provides a clearer view of the underlying momentum of the business. Depletions are well ahead of the reported NSR metrics, with some great growth being achieved against the more challenging market conditions.

For Penfolds, combined depletions of Bin 389 and 407 were up 11%, while China depletions continue to be strong despite recent changes in the market, up 17% in the period August to December. This positive momentum is continuing into the important Chinese New Year period, which officially starts tomorrow, where we expect to see good growth on the prior year.

These are very pleasing outcomes, reflecting Penfolds' strong brand equity in the market and continued strengthening of the brand health metrics, with demand power increasing in all key markets over the last quarter. For Treasury Americas, California depletions were impacted by the distribution transition, with some improvement in scan trends visible in January.

Outside of California, we achieved a material increase in points of distribution in the half, driving depletions growth led by DAOU, Frank Family Vineyards, and Stags' Leap. This is pleasing and a great sign of what we can achieve when we elevate our focus on execution and the opportunities that exist in the market.

For Treasury Collective, we saw positive depletions in Australia led by Pepperjack, Squealing Pig, and 19 Crimes. In the US, 19 Crimes continued to drive declines, partially offset by the ongoing momentum behind Matua.

While there are some clear areas we need to drive a step-change in performance, namely in California and across the Treasury Collective portfolio in the US, there are some very positive underlying growth trends throughout the business, reinforcing the strength of our brands and what I see as the considerable potential for growth across our brand portfolio. Behind these positive results is the momentum that our teams are driving, again, focused on execution excellence to deliver depletions growth.

I've been incredibly impressed by the standard of the brand activations that I've seen on my recent visits to Asia and the US in the past couple of months. For Penfolds, category-leading activations are behind the strong depletions growth in China.

A recent collaboration with Maybach was a huge success, building connection between two iconic luxury brands and providing buyers of high-end luxury cars direct engagement with the Penfolds brand. We will see more of this type of activation going forward, putting the Penfolds brand at the center of key gifting occasions, festing occasions, and collaboration opportunities with other luxury brands, all to cement the luxury icon positioning of the Penfolds brand.

DAOU is an amazing brand. We've just scratched the surface from a growth opportunity perspective, with meaningful runway to expand distribution of the core portfolio and further grow the on-premise channel.

The expansion in category-weighted distribution has been the key to growth outside of California, with considerable opportunities remaining. Frank Family is another fabulous brand with huge potential.

We are seeing strong depletions growth driven by on-premise strength, and like DAOU, increased distribution outside of California as the brand continues to build its status with the US luxury wine consumer. In the premium space, Matua continues to grow ahead of the category in the US.

A key driver of recent growth has been expanded distribution of Matua Lighter, which has a strong presence in the better-for-you segment and growing at around double the rate of the core brand tier. We believe there is a big opportunity for the brand elsewhere, with Australia an increasing focus, delivering double-digit depletions growth, again led by distribution expansion in the major retailers.

Ensuring we remain focused on best-in-class execution is critical to our growth ambition. Turning to the short- and medium-term agenda, we have a clear set of immediate priorities guiding our focus.

First, in-market execution remains a critical area of focus. I mention it all the time.

We are intensifying our depletions-led execution performance across all markets and sustaining momentum behind our core brands through disciplined activation and distribution. Second, we are taking an elevated focus on cash right across TWE.

In addition to our decision to suspend the interim dividend, we have deferred all non-essential expenditure and capital investment. We are also accelerating the program of work supporting the divestment of non-core assets and actively managing 2026 vintage intakes lower.

Finally, TWE Ascend, the multi-year enterprise transformation program to create a stronger TWE with a focus on delivering attractive returns and cash generation. We are moving at pace to maximize the delivery of the previously announced cost and cash benefits, which will be realized from fiscal year '27.

Talking about TWE Ascend in a little more detail, we have a high level of confidence in our ability to realize the $100 million in cost savings from F27 over a two- to three-year period as previously announced, in addition to the potential benefits of portfolio rationalization. As we laid out in December, TWE Ascend is a significant program of work focused on creating a stronger TWE under three core pillars.

From a portfolio perspective, we are focused on having a portfolio of brands that are both individually and collectively positioned to outperform the market. Critical to this is alignment to category, consumer, and competitor trends, as well as our competitive position, ensuring that we are best placed to grow our business in partnership with our retailers and distributors.

Further, as part of the alignment of our balance sheet to our future strategy, we see an opportunity to release capital. Since December, we've made good progress on this work, and today I'm pleased to share our expectations for the key components of our end-state portfolio, which will include: the strengthening of our luxury red wine leadership in key markets, led by our existing portfolio of acclaimed luxury brands like Penfolds, DAOU, Frank Family Vineyards, Stags' Leap, and Beaulieu Vineyard.

Building on that, we will be strengthening our position in luxury white wine, where we already have some great offerings across the luxury portfolio, but we will dial up our focus in what is a clear growth area for wine consumers. Third, we will elevate our focus on modern refreshment through Matua and Squealing Pig.

We have a great platform in place and are well placed to continue driving growth through disruptive innovation. In addition to the operating model, it's all about increasing organizational speed, consistency in everything we do, and delivering flawless in-market execution.

From a cost lens, we are working to materially reduce operating costs. Our target of $100 million per annum in savings is benchmarked both from a cost and performance perspective.

It will be enabled through maximizing our use of data and automation, with significant programs of work well underway in this regard. In terms of process and timeline, Ascend is being executed in three distinct yet integrated phases of work.

As the slide shows, we are currently well into the defining the future phase, with work expected to progress through to the end of March. At this point, we'll commence work on the detailed future state and design.

We will then lay out our conclusions, plans, and targets at our 2026 Investor Day to be held on the 4th of June in Sydney. We look forward to the opportunity to share with you our plans for a stronger, future-fit TWE then.

I'll now hand over to Stuart to cover key components of the financial results.

Stuart Boxer

Thank you, Sam, and hello, everyone. We'll start with material items.

A post-tax material items loss of $751 million was recognized in the half, which primarily relates to the non-cash impairment of US-based assets as we foreshadowed in our announcement to the market on December the 1st. This impairment is the result of applying more conservative growth assumptions to our US portfolio in response to the moderation of US wine category trends.

It includes the write-down of our US goodwill to zero, which we are required to recognize first under accounting standards; a write-down of selected brands, including Sterling and Beringer; and inventory, the largest component of which relates to excess bulk wine from the most recent 2025 vintage. I should point out that the DAOU, Frank Family Vineyards, and Stags' Leap brands were not written down as part of this impairment.

Now moving to the balance sheet. Net assets decreased $930.9 million on a reported currency basis, with $226.6 million of this decrease due to foreign currency movements and $771 million due to the US impairment.

Excluding these, the key balance sheet movements overall were in line with the usual seasonal variances other than inventory, which I will go through shortly. Net borrowings were higher by $91.2 million, driven by lower operating cash flows, partly offset by the foreign exchange translation benefit on our US-denominated debt.

Turning now to inventory. Against the prior corresponding period, total inventory volume reduced 2%, while value increased 2% or $16 million, reflecting increased luxury inventory, largely offset by a reduction of premium and commercial inventory.

Current inventory decreased $231.9 million, reflecting the moderated sales expectations in Penfolds and Treasury Americas. Non-current inventory increased $278.4 million, predominantly driven by this transfer of inventory from current to non-current, together with the luxury intakes from the most recent vintages.

In Australia, we made good progress towards our focus on rebalancing supply and demand, with initial intake reductions already locked in for the 2026 vintage, and remain confident that we will achieve a balance over the two- to three-vintage period. In the US, we are taking action to manage our intake starting with the 2026 vintage, where key initiatives will include the fallowing of selected controlled vineyards and the reduction of grower intake.

Moving now to cash flow and net debt. Net operating cash flow before interest, tax, and material items was $264.6 million for the period, a decrease of 38.1% on the prior corresponding period, and cash conversion was 82.4%.

We expect full-year cash conversion to be lower than the first-half outcome, driven by the net inventory build post the Australian vintage, notwithstanding the reductions to this intake I just mentioned. Capital expenditure was $76.8 million and included maintenance and replacement CapEx of $56.3 million and growth CapEx of $20.5 million.

This growth CapEx largely related to the in-flight BV development in Napa, which is scheduled to complete at the end of this half. Full-year CapEx is expected to be approximately $125 million, reflecting the completion of projects currently in progress and a tightening on all other non-essential CapEx.

Turning now to capital management. Leverage was 2.4 times, in line with the guidance provided in December.

We expect full-year leverage to be higher, predominantly due to the flow-through of the lower trailing 12-month EBITDA, together with the lower cash conversion. Our liquidity position remains healthy, with $1.4 billion of cash and committed undrawn debt facilities on hand and a well-diversified debt maturity profile, with no meaningful debt maturities until June 2027, and we retain significant headroom to the financial covenants under our borrowing arrangements.

As we've already mentioned, we have an elevated focus on near-term cost and cash initiatives, including deferral of all non-essential or committed capital expenditure, divestment of non-core assets, and managing vintage intake. We are seeking to accelerate the realization of Project Ascend cost and cash benefits in order to reduce leverage towards target levels.

The decision to not pay an F26 interim dividend was a key part of this focus, with the resumption of dividends in future periods subject to our financial performance and this leverage improvement trajectory. Thank you.

I'll now hand back to Sam.

Sam Fischer

Thanks, Stuart. In summary, our first-half '26 performance and full-year expectations reflect both the impact of conditions in our key markets and the deliberate actions we have taken to maintain brand strength and ensure healthy sales channels.

Looking ahead, we expect second-half EBITS to be higher than that delivered in the first half. Importantly, the underlying performance of our key brands remains positive, as reflected in the depletions trends that we presented earlier.

Our immediate agenda is focused on three key priorities: one, market execution; two, cash focus; and three, accelerating the TWE Ascend program of work, with high confidence around expected future benefits. Combined with our strong business foundations, including a powerful portfolio of brands with leading market positions, the continued outperformance of our key brands in key markets underpins our confidence in returning TWE to the delivery of sustainable profitable growth.

I'm full of optimism and energy around the progress we're making and the future we are shaping. While we have work ahead of us to address some key specific areas, it is the underlying strength of our brands and wealth of opportunities in our markets that continues to excite me.

Thank you again for joining us today. I'll now hand over to the operator to take your questions.

Operator

Thank you. If you wish to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced.

If you wish to cancel your request, please press star then two. If you're using a speakerphone, please pick up the handset to ask your question.

We ask that questions be limited to one per person. The first question today comes from Ben Gilbert from Jarden.

Please go ahead. Hi.

Ben Gilbert

Good morning, team. I'm just wondering if you could just talk around pricing and if there'd been much investment in wholesale pricing in the China market to clear inventory, and if there does look like there's been some further weakness on the pricing front through January.

Sam Fischer

Thanks, Ben. I think we're still in the midst of Chinese New Year.

We're just getting some more data. We haven't changed anything in relation to our wholesale pricing, and we haven't given any kind of extraordinary discounts that would allow there to be any change in pricing.

I do think as parallel dries up—and we are seeing the parallel drying up, and kind of those parallel operators look to get volume elsewhere—there could be some increased competition in the market, and there may be some margins that distributors are using to get that business. Generally speaking, I'm feeling very positive about this parallel initiatives that we're taking.

We're getting very positive feedback from all of the formal distributors inside of China, and I will expect to see more stability and elevation in our wholesale pricing going forward.

Ben Gilbert

That's great. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. The next question comes from David Errington from Bank of America.

Please go ahead.

David Errington

Morning, Sam. Morning, Stuart.

Sam, look, I suppose the key issue, the most pressing issue for investors right now outside of the operating performance is the balance sheet repair. That's probably where I'll address my question.

If I look, you've literally got what, $2.5 billion worth of inventory at cost. Your payables basically broadly meet your receivables, it's literally, you've got $2.5 billion of cost that is your future growth of the business.

Now how do you manage that? How do you manage the company?

I'm really intrigued because as you know I'm a massive bull on Penfolds, and the less said about the US, the better. How do you manage this where two of your three priorities is cash management, cost control, because to me the best way out of this balance sheet predicament is to grow, get your earnings growth back?

Now you're going through this transition period at the moment where you're rebasing, but I would like to think that that's not what we base our earnings growth on. How do you get your growth back whilst maintaining and repairing your balance sheet?

It's going to be a pretty hard act. I want to see growth coming back for Penfolds.

I want to see growth. I don't want to see cash management.

I just expect that. I want to see you're growing again.

How do you manage getting that growth back, but at the same time of being in these constraints of having to control your cash and having to cut costs? Because I worry about that as to whether you can wear two hats.

Generally growth companies don't have to worry about cost control, they just manage their cost, they don't have to cut costs. How can you get both if you like, because if you can, it'll be fantastic, but can you do both?

You've got all this inventory. Your payables equal your receivables.

You're in a wonderful position, but you need growth. How do you get both, Sam?

Because that's the magic sauce for mine. How do you do both?

How can you do it? How do you do it?

You've been there what, 100 days? How are you going to do it for us?

Sam Fischer

Thanks, David, for your question. I'm glad to see that we agree with each other, because I think you're right about growth.

I don't know how many times through that presentation I mentioned execution, activation, distribution gains, momentum at a core brand level. That's what underpins the whole of what we're focused on as we go in at an operating unit level in the business.

That's a cultural shift in relation to what we do on the shelf, what we do on the menu, what we do with wine consumers and activation across core components of the business. I'm really encouraged by some of the early signs.

You're right, I haven't been at this for very long, but we've wired depletions growth and execution standards into our performance rhythm, and that is the premise of the conversation we have with all of our teams every single month. The positive news coming out of China around momentum of the Penfolds brand is you just can't underestimate that impact for us.

It's early days, and we're not even in the Chinese New Year, but lots of what happens at a brand level happens before the actual celebration. We've got some great anecdotal feedback on the strength of the brand, how well it's being received from a gifting perspective in the Year of the Horse.

Lots to be really pleased with there. I think DAOU and Frank Family, Stags' Leap I've talked a little bit about in the US, and Matua, again all growing outside of this disrupted channel of California.

I've met with BBG now twice in the two trips that I've had to the US, and I'm increasingly confident that they're really getting their arms around our California challenges so that H2 will be much more positive than we saw in H1. We do need to focus on discipline inside of our organization.

That discipline starts with how we execute and how we drive depletions, but it also starts with being fiscally responsible. We just have to make sure that we spend all of our money on supporting the growth that you talked about and that we control our cash spend through CapEx.

That's the short term. In the longer term, I've talked a lot about Ascend.

It's difficult for me to bring real color to the momentum that Ascend is having inside of our business in clarifying exactly the portfolio that we will execute and in ensuring that we've got a fit-for-purpose operating model to support that growth agenda and that we remove, where possible, any duplication and wastage so we can free up funds to support growth. It's all really clear for us, but you're right, depletions sits really at the core of everything.

David Errington

For clarifying once '26 is a transition year, I get that. Is '27 a transition year as well, or can this start materializing, getting some growth back?

Look, Penfolds 17% depletions is terrific coming into Chinese New Year. Do we have to go through two years of transition?

Is that what you're asking us, Sam, or can we just go through one year and then we can re-expect to be coming back again? That's important because if you're asking for two years, that's fine, but what are you actually asking for?

One-year transition plus we reignite, or do you want two years?

Sam Fischer

I think, David, the process of Ascend, we've said is multi-year. This is a really big transformation program, and we'll continue to develop that project through that period of time, and we're dealing with some things inside of the business that are going to take longer than one year.

We've talked about some of those inventory challenges. In relation to building momentum behind the core brands that we're going to focus on, I expect that momentum to continue to build through that period of time while we deal with some of those structural challenges that we've talked about.

Operator

Thank you. The next question comes from Shaun Cousins from UBS.

Please go ahead. Hi.

Shaun Cousins

Thanks, Sam. Good morning.

Just a question regarding Penfolds, and it's possibly better for Tom King, but I'll note he's not on the line. I think in October '25, the company admitted that sort of reallocating product previously earmarked to China was less of a plan as there was risk of that product going back up into China by way of a gray market.

Did Penfolds kind of lack curiosity around the ultimate end-market demand for those non-China and non-Australia markets, or was demand generation ineffective, or was there just pressure to reallocate and it just seems to be that this is another reason for the challenges you have in Penfolds is that you haven't built enough demand in other markets and it looks like you've lost a little control of your supply, please?

Sam Fischer

I think those markets do look disrupted because of the really specific actions we're taking around operators that we've identified as contributing to parallel. Actually when you look underneath that and we look at the performance in key markets like Malaysia, Thailand, Singapore, and we see how that brand is being developed, actually it's outstanding work.

One of our board members was up and saw an activation at a table in a restaurant where it was just full of Penfolds. I really think the brand in the markets outside of China is in great health.

The numbers are just being disrupted a little bit as we kind of normalize what is domestic consumption versus what is consumption that's been driven from outside of the markets. I think that's the best answer.

I think the brand is in a great place in all those markets that I've seen outside of China. How

Shaun Cousins

are you selling too much product in? Because are you not able to appropriately determine what the in-market demand is, because if you're worried about product going in that it ends up in China, then that would suggest you don't have your arms around the appropriate in-market demand, even though the comment you've made is pleasing around the brand being developed well, but it looks like you don't appropriately understand how to size what that true demand is.

Sam Fischer

I've used this word before, but I think we have had a really forensic look at volumes in some of those markets. We've looked for anomalies.

We've looked at what doesn't seem to add up to what we would expect to be in-market consumption, where we've seen sort of anomalies in specific channels, we've taken corrective action. Difficult for me to speak about the past because I wasn't here, but certainly from now going forward, we've made really significant corrective actions to erase those anomalies and focus wholly and solely on in-market depletion and execution.

Shaun Cousins

Great. Thank you.

Thanks, Sam.

Operator

Thank you. The next question comes from Richard Barwick from CLSA.

Please go ahead. Hi.

Richard Barwick

Good morning, Sam. I wonder just clarify the commentary you provided on Americas EBITS.

About $90 mil for FY26, but so I guess you've got the caveat there, it's excluding any benefits and costs of the RNDC settlement. Can you just clarify exactly what those benefits and costs are as they relate to EBITS, please?

Stuart Boxer

I think, good day, Richard. I think the way that I sort of answer that one is that we've described that there's a benefit coming from the California settlement and there will be some costs associated with that.

The net of the benefits less the cost will be a positive number. Just that's the first piece.

Then the guidance we've tried to give you around that $90 million is to say that is excluding the flow-through of any of that benefit. Treat it for the purposes of trying to think about your outlook as just excluding that net positive benefit from your numbers, if that helps you.

Richard Barwick

All right. When we get round to August, Stuart, and you're reporting Americas EBITS, therefore, we should be thinking about $90 then plus some small net positive?

Stuart Boxer

That's probably right. Whether we ultimately treat that as a material item or in the income, we haven't finalized yet, Richard, but we'll be clear on that when the results come round.

Richard Barwick

Okay. Then one other clarification on those Americas EBITS.

You also talked about as far as for the group, you mentioned, obviously second-half EBITS to be a little bit higher than first half. I guess the reference or the description that goes along with that is improved momentum in California following completion of distributor transition.

Where are we in that? When do you sort of classify the distributor transition has completed?

Has that occurred already? Again, just trying to get a little bit of better understanding there, please.

Sam Fischer

Sure. Thanks, Richard.

I think when we transferred the business to BBG, there were many others that transferred, and there were some real operational challenges that they went through which really impacted our ability to put product on the shelf. Having met with BBG, their CEO in January, I got great comfort that they've rigorously worked through some of those operating challenges.

We saw some real improvement in January. It's only 1 month.

We're not declaring victory, but I guess what we're saying is that we would expect to see continued improvement through the first half on the back of the significant interventions that BBG has made to their operation.

Richard Barwick

Okay. All right.

What you can see, it looks like it's progressing, but it's a process that'll take place across the half.

Sam Fischer

I think that's fair.

Richard Barwick

Yeah. Okay.

All right. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. The next question comes from Sam Teeger from Citi.

Please go ahead.

Sam Teeger

Hi, Sam. Hi, Stuart.

Just another question on the US, please. How are you thinking about the potential disruption outside of California in the seven other states that RNDC is getting out of?

I know none of them are as big as California, but looking at market data collectively, they are bigger. I guess, when will Reyes finalize their sales plans for your brands in these markets?

What's the potential here that these sales plans could be lower than what RNDC had with you? Just how does the inventory transfer across?

Would that be clean or anything that we should consider on this? Thank you.

Sam Fischer

Thanks, Sam. I'll try and answer that.

I just had a little bit of trouble hearing you. If not, I'll get Stuart to supplement it, but Reyes is a business we know well.

I've met with them and have known them in my previous life. A huge distributor in the US.

They've got multi-beverage capability, having taken on a large portion of the RNDC business in California. We feel great confidence.

I believe that the transaction is progressing, and I don't know exactly when it will complete, but we would expect in the half. That's very positive, and I think goes a long way to supporting and strengthening RNDC's overall balance sheet.

I think from our perspective, it'll be about 5% of our business, again reducing our reliance on RNDC, and they're taking over the RNDC business. Lots and lots of the capability that exists in RNDC is transferring to Reyes, and all of those people know our brands really well.

We're expecting really a much, much smaller disruption through transition. We're already speaking to Reyes about kind of building plans.

Again, we've got a really seamless transition once the transaction is complete. I think we feel great confidence.

We're working with the team already, and we've got lots and lots of respect for Reyes as a business. Stuart, anything to add?

Stuart Boxer

No, look, the only thing I'll say just to sort of further clarify is it's quite different to the California transition in the way that Sam described in that Reyes will pick up the business, people, etc., from RNDC. Picks up an operating business, which makes it a whole lot simpler from a transition perspective than what we've seen in California, where BBG basically had to gear up from a zero start.

It's quite a different situation there. Obviously, these things always have elements of change associated with them, but fundamentally we see this being significantly smoother than what we saw in California.

Sam Teeger

All right. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. The next question comes from Michael Simotas from Jefferies.

Please go ahead. Hi.

Michael Simotas

Good morning, everyone. First one from me, another question on the US, if I can.

When you repurchase the inventory from RNDC in California, you're going to be holding it on your balance sheet at a cost which would effectively give you zero gross margin. What confidence do you have in your ability to recover that cost, and is there a risk that you will need to impair that inventory?

Stuart Boxer

Look, we're pretty confident about that. We're sort of well aware of the nature of that inventory, our team sort of working through that detail, and that we are confident that that inventory will be salable in the way you described.

Obviously, the shape of the P&L will be a bit of a challenge in the way you've described, but we'll sort of help you out with that when we get to the full year so you can see through it. Certainly from what we see, it's going to be fine from a recoverability perspective.

Michael Simotas

That's okay. Then a broader question.

As part of Ascend, plans to evolve the portfolio further, there's a lot of debate around structural versus cyclical impacts or factors in wine, but one thing that seems pretty clear in every market around the world, including China, is consumer preferences are shifting towards lighter reds and whites. Outside of Frank Family, none of your brands are really known for either of those styles.

What does that evolving the portfolio look like, and is that organic or would you need to take more decisive action on the portfolio, either exiting brands or potentially acquiring new brands?

Sam Fischer

Thank you, Michael. I think that's right, and the work we're doing is data-led and future-back.

Sort of have a look sort of five years down and look at the big trends we see at a category level and overlay our brands against those trends. I guess that's where the luxury white came from.

We sort of looked at that and said, gee, we can see luxury white wine having really interesting runway, starting to get a lot of traction. We looked at our portfolio and said, wow, we've got some really incredible brands here led by Yattarna.

Can that play a much, much bigger role as we look into the future? Luxury red, of course, we can still see that whole premiumization trend over the 5 years playing a real role as well.

They're playing right into the core. Again, when we look at some of these lighter styles, that's where we really looked at Matua.

Sauvignon Blanc continues to play a real recruitment role for the category. It brings wine into new occasions on the back of Marlborough Sauvignon Blanc, and we've got an incredible brand and an incredible position in Marlborough.

That's one that's actually playing straight into what we call refreshment or lighter styles. Where we've got other gaps, you mentioned things like rosé and perhaps Pinot Noir, we're very much looking into our portfolio and saying, how do we innovate, or how do we bring a variant forward so that we can really play a much, much bigger role in those growth areas.

Again, without getting into too much detail, whole lot of opportunity there. We're already doing it with brands like Squealing Pig.

They're disruptive, they're innovative, but how we do that with our luxury portfolio, we're still working through.

Michael Simotas

Okay. It's more about scaling products that you've already got and potentially launching new products within existing brands rather than anything more dramatic than that?

Sam Fischer

We're blessed with a wealth of brands and products and vineyards. We've got everything we think we need to really play a much, much bigger role in the parts of the category that we see as having real growth potential.

That's our priority.

Michael Simotas

Right. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. The next question comes from Tom Kierath from Barrenjoey.

Please go ahead.

Tom Kierath

Morning, guys. Just a bigger picture one, I suppose.

Over the last 15 years or so, every four or five years, TWE's had these kind of big write-offs, overstocking issues. How do you kind of improve your processes and, I suppose, understanding of where inventory is so that you don't have these issues going forward?

It would just give people a lot more confidence that the reported numbers are actually a lot more reflective of what's going on. Don't know if any color you can provide on that, Sam.

Thanks.

Sam Fischer

Sure. Difficult again just talk into that past, but I do think this medium- to long-term strategy where employing through the Ascend program is going to give us much more clarity.

We're really looking at the category, understanding the trends, and then understanding kind of how we wire ourselves to tap into those trends, but also to compete harder. I really do see that as an opportunity.

I've mentioned execution and activation and all these words so often, but culturally inside of our organization, what is going to underpin future and consistent growth is winning in the marketplace. I keep talking about how blessed we are with the portfolio of brands that we've got, the market positions that we've got.

We've got to take all of that DNA and turn it into winning in market through execution. That's what will underpin the consistency of the future.

Some of that's a bit of a cultural shift inside the business. Some of that's taking a much, much longer-term view and making sure we're positioning ourselves against those trends.

I'm conscious of the change and I'm conscious of this history, but I guess I'm thinking about it from a forward perspective and saying, how over the next 5 years can we position ourselves to drive that consistency?

Tom Kierath

Great. Appreciate that.

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. The next question comes from Noah Hunt from MST Financial.

Please go ahead. Oh,

Noah Hunt

morning, Sam and Stuart. I've just got a question on the composition of the Americas EBITS.

If I take DAOU earnings out of the Americas earnings result, the rest of the luxury wines in the Americas looks to be close to, if not, loss-making. Is this the right way to look at this, and if so, why is this the case and what's the fix going forward?

Stuart Boxer

Look, the reality is that Treasury Americas business is one business. It's not run as five individual P&Ls with different brands, it's difficult to extract one brand out of it and look at the rest.

I certainly understand the mathematics that you've tried to do there. I think the components of the results we've already talked to around what's driven the top-line performance and some of the issues there in California, etc.

You've got a result driven by the things we've talked about, which has resulted in an outcome that you've described in the way you have. I think, back to what we're focused on, we're focused on driving depletions growth across the entire portfolio, to move through this period of distributor transition in California, to be able to move through the period of working through that distributor stock that we've talked about over the last couple of calls, to get ourselves into a position where we've got a well-performing portfolio of brands in that market.

At a point in time, I get your point, but we're sort of taking a long-term view as to the outlook of that business overall with that collection of brands.

Noah Hunt

Got it. Thanks, Stuart.

Operator

Thank you. The next question comes from Caleb Wheatley from Macquarie.

Please go ahead.

Caleb Wheatley

Morning, Sam and Stuart. Thanks for taking my question.

Just a follow-up on Penfolds and the depletions in China. Appreciate the other comments, there wasn't any material change from wholesale pricing or funding on that side, but that plus 17% depletions still looks relatively strong compared to PCP.

Just keen to understand if there's anything else to call out from your respect in terms of what drove that number and, yeah, any potential thoughts on how it may trend as you work through this destocking process, please?

Sam Fischer

Thanks, Caleb. I think, look, Tom's been up in China in January.

He's been in the south. He's been with distributors, first, second, and third-tier distributors.

The brand's in great shape is his feedback, which is terrific. It's being mentioned in the same sentence as Moutai as being two of the brands through the Chinese New Year at that point that are doing really well.

I think what's underpinning that performance is, one, the strength of the brand; and two, the strength of the team and the activation the team is working on in the market. We talk about kind of that Maybach execution, but it's extraordinary to see what that drove on social media and at a brand level through that touchpoint.

I really think it is about kind of quality execution, it's about engaging with consumers where they are, our social media activations, and also the fact that we've got such confidence now coming from our Tier 1, Tier 2, and Tier 3 distributors. They've seen this really definitive action that is designed to strengthen their position in the market, and I think that's giving them confidence that they can continue to support and invest in Penfolds for the longer term.

There's just a suite of things here that are getting us excited about, one, this Chinese New Year; and two, kind of the future. I guess they're all of the things that underpin that depletions momentum to the half and the expectation that it's going to continue.

Caleb Wheatley

Okay. Thank you very much.

Operator

Thank you. The next question comes from Phil Kimber from E&P Capital.

Please go ahead.

Phil Kimber

Hi, Sam and Stuart. I was going to follow up on that question on that depletions slide.

You quote outside of China, you've got some specific data points, whether it's Quantium or Nielsen or whatever, but it doesn't seem to have one for China. Where is that depletions data coming from?

Is that, I guess, you asking your distributors about their depletions, or is it actually sort of measured consumer data? I just wanted to understand that a little bit better, just because 17.2 is a very strong number and it's no doubt the brand's strong, but it does seem a lot higher than the sort of feedback you're getting over the overall wine market in China.

Thanks.

Stuart Boxer

Phil. It's the depletions from our distributors out.

That's the data we get directly from them. It's for us sort of the cleanest set of data.

As the market data is a little patchy in China, we think that's just the best and cleanest number to use. It's depletions from our Tier 1 distributors.

Certainly, historically, we have found that the Tier 2 distributors are not holding a lot of stock, therefore those depletions are a pretty good guide. We do also compare and cross-check with data points like e-commerce data and Nielsen as well, which tend to also be pretty supportive of those outcomes.

As e-commerce is a smaller part of the market and Nielsen's not necessarily 100% reliable, we think that depletions number is the best one to share.

Sam Fischer

I'd only add that the brand up in China doesn't really act like you would expect a brand from a wine category to act. It's a genuine status symbol that plays a key role in gifting.

As we go into this CNY period, it's countering all of the trends of wine, in fact all of the trends of spirits, and it's really behaving like one of the status gifts that are given during the CNY period. Outside of just comparing it to the category, it's really leading the whole industry.

Phil Kimber

Yeah. Then I guess my second question is, and I don't expect obviously a hard number, but your second-half EBITS, flat Penfolds, but growing in the other two divisions, but then we've still got this sort of two-year process of resizing shipments for depletions.

I think it's sort of along the line of David Errington's questions. Just to the extent can earnings effectively drop down again in FY27?

Obviously, it depends a bit on the underlying growth rate, but just in terms of right-sizing depletions and shipments, is a big chunk of that still yet to happen and will happen in FY27, we should sort of have that in our thinking?

Stuart Boxer

Phil. I understand what you're trying to do, and I know it's a difficult one, and you've sort of outlined some of the components of the challenge there.

The components and the building blocks of this, obviously to your starting point is the underlying depletions performance, and you've heard a lot about what we're trying to do to drive that. Certainly, this half and this year, you're aware that we've already dealt with a reduction of customer inventory in Treasury Collective by about 200,000 cases.

We've made good progress on the parallel piece in China in particular, only a modest impact on the inventory in Treasury Americas in the half. Obviously, in this half, we're now buying back that California piece, which is an important part of the overall equation.

We're certainly feel like we're making good progress this year. To your point, in terms of how it spreads between the two years and the impact on the year-to-year number, it depends ultimately on the depletions growth and how that is all balanced.

What we're trying to do is to sort of end up with a sort of pretty good landing, but there's a lot of variables.

Phil Kimber

Okay. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. The next question comes from Michael Toner from RBC.

Please go ahead.

Michael Toner

Hi, team. Thanks for taking my question.

Look, I wanted to drill in a bit more on the US, and I just want to understand to what extent your Americas outlook might reflect the possibility of further disruption caused by some of the issues RNDC sort of seems to be experiencing nationally, even outside of California and the markets sold to Reyes, because some of those issues seem to extend well beyond California. Apparently they've lost a couple more suppliers.

There's reports of some layoffs kind of planned for Feb. That seems, on the face of things, that's something that could cause quite a bit of disruption.

I know that RNDC still accounts for about 20% of your NSR ex California and Reyes, if I'm accurate?

Sam Fischer

Yeah. No, it is.

It's about 18% of the business once the Reyes transaction completes. It's it's useful to note that actually outside of California, RNDC grew in the half for us by 2.7%.

That gives us a bit of an indication of their operating health. I do think that, the work they've done on on the balance sheet by the refinancing has has made a material difference, and the Reyes transaction again, the sale will make a material difference.

This is still a a really substantial business, particularly in Texas. From what we can see through our intelligence on the ground, still operating really, really well.

They're doing some some concrete things to shore up their own balance sheet. I guess through the conversations I've had with their CEO, which have been multiple, we've got confidence they're going to continue to be a great operator for us in the remaining states once the RNDC deal is done.

I'll continue to have close dialogue with them. We'll continue to work on all of the plans to continue to drive our business forward, and I think we've got confidence that they'll be a partner for us with us for the longer term.

Michael Toner

Great. Thanks.

Just quickly on Reyes, I know it's a small proportion of your NSR, but my understanding is they don't have a huge amount of experience selling luxury wine. I'm sort of wondering kind of what you think needs to happen for them to scale up that capability and sort of do you anticipate that being a hurdle for you guys?

Because I don't imagine they can sort of just instantaneously pivot their sales force to sell luxury inventory if it's not something they've had a lot of experience doing historically.

Sam Fischer

No. I think they've predominantly been a beer distributor, and in California, obviously that's extended into spirits.

I think they're more and more moving into being a multi-category distributor in the US. Certainly in relation to the market, all of the channels, in all of the accounts, they know them, and they've got reach that's probably beyond any other distributor because of that.

That actually creates a bit of an opportunity for us to look at potentially some new channels. Very importantly, they are acquiring the RNDC business, which has got all of that capability and long history of distributing wine and spirits.

They see that as being one of the key benefits of the transaction is that they're bringing that capability into their organization, and ultimately that can be diffused across their organization. In some ways, that migration is giving us great comfort.

Michael Toner

Okay. Thanks very much.

Operator

Thank you. The next question comes from Mark Southwell-Keely from Select Equities.

Please go ahead.

Mark Southwell-Keely

Hi, guys. Thanks for taking my question.

Can you hear me okay?

Sam Fischer

We can hear you, Mark.

Mark Southwell-Keely

Okay. Terrific.

We're seeing with respect to some baijiu distributors and even including Moutai, we're seeing some of the baijiu brands adopting strategies to help with the distributors' working capital. The working capital of some of these distributors is still under significant stress.

We're seeing some of these brands, including even Moutai, adopt various strategies to assist, for example, selling on consignment, and also adopting some pretty aggressive SKU rationalization so not to overburden distributors with SKUs that are unpopular with consumers. I'm just wondering what your thoughts are around what you're seeing happening in the baijiu sector and with the distributors and perhaps to the extent that you guys might adopt similar strategies to assist the distributors?

Sam Fischer

Yeah. Thanks, Mark.

Obviously, we are watching the baijiu category. There's been lots of noise and lots of challenge, including some innovation with lower ABV as they try and address some of the structural challenges in the market.

I think some of that announcement that came out from Moutai had a positive impact, actually brought confidence back in where they very proactively addressed some of the concerns of their distributors. Some of that's flowed on to confidence at a category level.

They've obviously shored up their pricing, which has also helped. We have a very, very long history with our distributors.

They've really been partners with us in growing our business in China, and I would say we're privileged to have their strength behind us. When it comes to their working capital, I guess the inventory reduction program that we're driving our depletions through is going to be material for them in relation to realizing some working capital, but we haven't looked at any other support, nor have they asked.

We're certainly not looking at consignment or anything like that. I met them in December.

I would say it was a really terrific meeting. We took concrete actions on parallel.

I think they've been really delighted by that. We're still working all of that volume through, but they're seeing some real positives in the market through that reduction.

I feel like the confidence that our distributors have in us is really strong, and we'll continue to leverage that as we build the brand going forward.

Mark Southwell-Keely

What about in terms of SKU rationalization perhaps?

Sam Fischer

I think that through the Ascend program, when we talk about simplification and having clarity of roles across the portfolio, that is in scope. Where we can drive simplification, bring more focus to the portfolio to drive kind of that real upside potential, we'll look at it, and Penfolds will be one of them that we look at.

No decisions made as yet.

Mark Southwell-Keely

Thanks very much, guys.

Operator

Thank you. The next question comes from Jason Palmer from Taylor Collison.

Please go ahead.

Jason Palmer

Good morning. Thanks for taking my question.

Just in respect of the Cali and non-Cali redistribution of inventory for the 100 and the 125, how much of that occurred in 1H26, and what's your assumptions around 2H26 in your outlook? Thanks.

Stuart Boxer

Yeah. Sort of touched on a little bit earlier.

In terms of the first half, it was very modest reduction of inventory within the Treasury Americas portfolio. Whilst it's not relevant to the 100 and 125 numbers you just referred to, we did take 200,000 cases out in relation to Treasury Collective in the first half.

In the second half, we are obviously completing the RNDC settlement transaction, including acquiring all of that inventory. That deals with the inside California component as part of that RNDC transaction, so that will occur during the half.

In terms of what happens in relation to the rest, we remain committed to that two-year program, where we are working through that over the course of that period of time, but in terms of the specifics beyond that, ultimately it will be dependent on depletions growth as well, we can't give you any further guidance on that at this time.

Jason Palmer

Okay. Thanks.

Just to be clear, the 100 in California is cleared with the RNDC transaction in the second half, is it?

Stuart Boxer

Sorry, yes, it is. Sorry, that dropped out.

Yes, it is.

Operator

Thank you. The next question comes from Bryan Raymond from JPMorgan.

Please go ahead.

Bryan Raymond

Morning. Just on the dividend and the balance sheet, just interested if there's any sort of threshold you'd be looking at for when you reinstate the dividend.

Do you need to see that gearing level back in the target range or below a certain threshold to begin bringing that dividend back? Thanks.

Stuart Boxer

We haven't been as specific as that, Bryan. We've talked to this program of getting that gearing down over a two-year period, and that the decision to reinstate will really be dependent on the progress we're making and that trajectory we've talked about down towards that two times.

Now the factors that will feed into that will be where we are at in terms of things like Project Ascend, the timing of the cash flow benefits that come out of that, both in terms of the cost benefits net of any sort of cost to achieve those, and any sort of proceeds from the portfolio reduction. It's too early to call at this stage the timing of those.

Obviously, as we get closer to the end of the financial year, pass the June Investor Day, we go through that, we'll have some greater clarity on the timing, which will help us to have a greater sense of the timetable. Ultimately, it'll be a decision for the board that they'll make on when the dividends are resumed.

Bryan Raymond

Okay. Excellent.

Thanks.

Operator

Thank you. The next question comes from Shaun Cousins from UBS.

Please go ahead.

Shaun Cousins

Thanks. Just a question regarding the RNDC inventory in California.

Can you discuss what the other options that were available for this inventory? As it seems to have been a transaction where Treasury TWE gearing's gone up, and can you, I guess, discuss the risk around your broader EBITS if these volumes crowd out higher-margin volumes?

Or, and maybe further to Mike's sort of question, what's the risk that you actually need to invest more A&P, that these become not just neutral gross margin or gross profit transactions, but you actually need to invest more in A&P? I'm just keen for you to sort of amplify the alternatives you looked at, and then just sort of a little bit more why it was the right thing for TWE shareholders for you to add gearing, and then the risk that these actually crowd out higher-margin sales or are actually EBITS loss-making sales, please?

Stuart Boxer

I think the way that we've thought about that, and it really relates back to when we disclosed sort of the 100 and 125 that we need to deal with as excess stock that distributors are holding that we need to get down over a period of time, and the impact of working that excess stock through the system, if you like, is that it replaces us sort of selling stock out of our own inventory to work through that. Now whether in fact that was achieved by virtue of RNDC transitioning or transferring that inventory from California into their other markets or across America or whether we came to the position that we came to, which is where we bought that inventory back is effectively a timing difference anyway, Sean, in terms of how that flows through.

Our perspective there was that a sort of clean outcome for California where we've got that inventory back in our control and then we can control how it gets distributed and redistributed across the market, and doing that in a way that was beneficial for RNDC from a cash flow perspective, was linked up with that settlement, was definitely the best decision for the company from a whole lot of perspectives.

Shaun Cousins

The risk that these are negative EBITS, loss-making sales, you have to put more A&P behind these sort of sales to try and move it along?

Stuart Boxer

I think it'll be the same in that we're ultimately driving depletions in the marketplace, and the A&P that we put behind the brands is to drive depletions. That focus on depletions growth that again you've heard about today doesn't really change.

Now clearly the faster we can drive depletions growth across the business, the faster we can work through this inventory. That's the broader objective that we are focused on anyway, it doesn't actually change our execution focus at all, Sean, because we are definitely focused on just driving depletions growth.

Shaun Cousins

Okay. All right.

Fantastic. Thanks for that.

Operator

Thank you. There are no further questions at this time.

I'll hand the conference back to Sam Fischer for any closing remarks.

Sam Fischer

Thank you very much for your time this morning. We look forward to updating you at our investor conference on the 4th of June and through our full-year results.

Thank you very much. Have a very nice day.