Evolution Mining Limited

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Q1 FY2027 · Earnings Call TranscriptOctober 13, 2026

Operator

I'll now like to hand the conference over to Mr. Lawrie Conway, Managing Director and Chief Executive Officer.

Please go ahead.

Lawrie Conway

Thank you, Darcy, and good morning, everyone. I'm joined on the call today by Matt O'Neill, our Chief Operating Officer, and Peter "Rockey" O'Connor, our GM Investor Relations.

Firstly, I want to thank everybody who participated in our investor briefing and tours to Cowal and Northparkes operations last month. We appreciate you taking the time to engage with us to better understand our business and its direction.

Today, we released our September quarterly report on the ASX, and this will be the reference point for the call. We are on track to deliver all of our FY '27 group guidance measures.

September quarter production was a slower start than planned, mainly due to impacts of weather and grid power interruptions at a couple of operations. Production is planned to grow through the year and is weighted to the second half, as outlined when we released our guidance in August.

Key production drivers for the remainder of the year include access to the Regal underground decline and higher tonnes out of E46 at Cowal, higher grades out of Castle Hill at Mungari, and accessing new mining areas with higher grade at Red Lake. Matt will go through these shortly.

Our safety performance was pleasing with our total recordable injury frequency improving to 5.8, and it remains very low. We produced 154,000 oz of gold and 18,000 t of copper at a very low all-in sustaining cost of $1,653 per ounce.

This is one of the lowest in the sector. Our sustained cost control, complemented by the upside from our copper exposure, were the key drivers to the all-in sustaining cost, which is below the low end of guidance.

The low-cost position resulted in mine cash flows of $775 million and $466 million of operating and net mine cash flows, respectively. All operations were net cash positive for the quarter, with Ernest Henry a standout, delivering a record net mine cash flow of $186 million.

The charts on page 1 of the report clearly shows our high margin and cash generation, with our all-in sustaining cost margin improving to 73%. The cash flow potential is significant.

At Q1 achieved prices, F1 FY '27 operating mine cash flow would be around $3.6 billion, which is $200 million higher than FY '26, even allowing for cost escalation during FY '27. Group cash flow for the quarter was $185 million at a rate of $1,185 per ounce, while our cash balance at the end of September was $1.47 billion, improving our net cash position to $141 million.

We have no debt repayments until FY '29 and are fully unhedged. All our organic growth projects remain on schedule and on budget.

Last week, board approved the concentrate regrind and filtration project at Northparkes, that will further improve recoveries by 2 and 1% for gold and copper by the start of FY '29. This is another high-return project with an IRR of between 30 to 37%.

Evolution's share of investment is $72 million, and this is included in our existing group capital outlook. Exploration continues to strengthen our growth pipeline with an excellent result at Ernest Henry, where we intersected mineralization up to 900 m below the current mining area.

This included 61.3 m at 1.26% Cu and 0.77 tonnes gold. It gives us confidence that Ernest Henry is likely to be operating well beyond the current mine plan to 2042.

At Cowal and Northparkes, we continue to see encouraging results for further organic growth. All of this aligns with what Glenn presented last month at the investor briefing.

The acquisition of Carnaby Resources remains on track for completion by mid-November, subject to Carnaby shareholders voting in favor of the scheme. With that, I'll now hand over to Matt to take through the operational performance.

Matt O'Neill

Thanks, Lawrie. The September quarter has demonstrated the value of our diversified portfolio.

From an overall business perspective, the strong performances from the Ernest Henry and Northparkes operations have helped to mitigate the slower-than-planned start across our other assets. Pleasingly, group production performance improved through the quarter, with all assets now back operating at planned rates.

Our rolling 12-month recordable injury frequency rate improved again to 5.8, and while we're encouraged by this progress, we remain focused on building a safe and predictable trading culture across every site. Turning to the operations.

There were a number of temporary factors that influenced the quarter. At Cowal, we're now firmly in the transition phase, with the E42 cutback well underway and the ramp-up of the E46 pit now complete, allowing it to contribute 25% of the feed to the mill to partially offset the lower-grade feed from the surface stockpiles.

Over the first half of the quarter, we experienced higher-than-average rainfall, resulting in more feed from the lower-grade stockpiles than planned, and this was visible to those of you who joined the tour last month. Compounding this, we had a slower-than-planned ramp-up of the new mining contractor, reducing the output from the underground mine.

Production from the underground mine is back in line with plan and tracking well over the first few weeks of this quarter. The Regal portal remains on track for completion by the end of December and remains a key component in increasing the productivity of the underground mine and Cowal's ramp-up in the back half of this financial year.

Mungari's slow start to the year reflected ongoing regional power interruptions and reduced processing rates and downtime through July. The operation has recovered over the quarter and is now operating at planned rates.

As outlined on the site tour during Diggers, studies are underway to improve our resilience to the regional power interruptions. Mining works to access the higher-grade zones at Castle Hill in the second half of the financial year remain on track.

With development ramping up well, the team at Red Lake remain on track to bring on the two planned additional mining areas at HG Young and Upper Balmer by the end of the December quarter. Throughout the quarter, the operation was impacted by an unusually high number of grid power outages due to instability of the external network.

Also impacting was reduced availability from our front-line production fleet. We also completed our regular shutdown schedule for Collectively, these factors hindered the mining team's ability to remain on plan, resulting in disruptions to the mining sequence and creating the variance in grade seen through the quarter.

As noted earlier, Northparkes continued to deliver in line with plan, with the E48 sub-level cave ramping up well and the growth projects on track. Ernest Henry had a fantastic quarter, exceeding its plan across a range of metrics and is on track for a good year.

The record cash flow reaffirms the quality of the asset and shows it's back to full capacity. To conclude, this quarter demonstrated the strength of Evolution's portfolio.

While gold production was impacted by a number of temporary factors, margin performance and cash generation remain strong on the back of operational performance of Ernest Henry and Northparkes, and we remain on track to deliver to full year guidance. As Lawrie noted earlier, over the quarter, we have strengthened the balance sheet, delivered positive cash flow across every operation, and at the same time, continued to invest in a pipeline of projects we believe will generate meaningful value for shareholders over the coming years and in financial year '27.

I'll now hand back to Darcy to open the line for questions.

Operator

Thank you. If you would like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad and wait for your name to be announced.

If you would like to cancel your request, please press star two. If you are on a speakerphone, please pick up the handset to ask your question.

Your first question today comes from Kate McCutcheon from Bank of America. Please go ahead.

Kate McCutcheon

Hi. Good morning, Lawrie and team.

Just at Northparkes, the concentrate regrind and filtration project, I've not heard you mention that before. If I add that together with the float circuit plant, net-net, we're looking at a 2.5% to 4% uplift for gold, is it, versus today?

Then we're expecting you to make a submission to the regulator pushing on a bigger mill at Northparkes later this calendar year. How do we marry in the two improvements that you're making in terms of expansions there?

If that makes sense. Thank you.

Matt O'Neill

Thanks, Kate. Yes, the project was being studied through last year, and it was one that we were always planning to.

This project is in addition to the coarse particle, you're correct in terms of the improvement in the recoveries. In terms of the plant upgrade, as the study finishes by the end of FY '27, and we land on what will be the size of the plant that we want to take it to, that's when we'll make that submission.

We're currently permitted to 8.5 million tonnes. These two projects will actually allow us to lift the processing rate above the sort of current 7.5 million tonne per annum level.

Kate McCutcheon

Okay. Got it.

Then if we think about Cowal, you pushed the shutdown from September quarter into next quarter. Can you just remind me how big that will be and what we expect open pit volumes to be or a step-up quarter-on-quarter?

I'm just trying to think about how production moves quarter-on-quarter and you get to that 2H uplift.

Matt O'Neill

Yep. Kate, it's Matt here.

With E46 coming in line, essentially, most of the feed at E46 is the oxide, we are limited in the volumes that we can put through in terms of a percentage. We're targeting around 25% or above, if we can push it, percentage of the feed into the mill to be from E46.

That obviously then leaves the underground as the other primary feed, and then we'll make up with the lower-grade stockpiles as required to fill the mill. That's essentially the path forward until we get the stage I back online.

Kate McCutcheon

Okay. Thanks, Matt.

Operator

Thank you. Your next question comes from Hugo Nicolaci from Goldman Sachs.

Please go ahead. Oh,

Hugo Nicolaci

morning, guys. Thanks for the update.

Look, first one for me just on Red Lake. You touched on the power and the mill throughput issues and the mine sequencing resulting in that lower sort of mid-3s grade.

Sort of back it out against the guidance for the full year, it sort of implies you need to average sort of 5 g+ for the rest of the year. Or if we assume there's a bit of a progressive improvement through 2Q, then second half probably more like 5.5 to 6.

I guess the question is, what gives you sort of the confidence with where the mine's at today that you can ramp up and get the tonnes out of Upper Campbell and Balmer to deliver that grade into the second half?

Matt O'Neill

Yep. Again, Matt here.

The driver for that, the grade when you've done the calculations there is correct. One of the challenges or a mitigant that we're looking for there is additional volume because that grade will be a stretch.

It is in the plan, and that's how it will come through, but the contingency that we're working on is we've got additional volume available to us for the mills, and so that's essentially the work that we're doing through Q2 and Q3 to fill those mills to make sure we've got some of that contingency in place because that grade is there, it's in the sequence, but that's what we want to make sure we've got some contingency in place, so that's where that comes from.

Hugo Nicolaci

Got it. That's helpful.

Then probably similar line of thinking around Mungari, just providing a bit more color in terms of the timing and that magnitude of expected grade uplift going forward with stage 2 at Castle Hill and just the increasing tonnes and grade performance of the underground as well?

Matt O'Neill

Yep. The Castle Hill is essentially a sequencing of stage 2.

We made some modifications through the first quarter to assist the mill with the downtime it was experiencing through July, and that did have a negative impact on the grade for the quarter. That material's scheduled for the back end, back end of quarter 3, early into quarter 4.

That's where the Castle Hill grade uplift comes from. In terms of the underground, a lot of the work around Kundana is where we expect to see the uplift.

The story again for Mungari is obviously the underground being the margin driver for us, what we've been seeing is some issues again with people in the region and absenteeism. We've addressed that with the team on site and recruiting additional people across there.

That, plus the productivity that we're looking to get from having everybody on site and working, is essentially where we get the uplift in the underground over the back end of the year as well. Then

Hugo Nicolaci

just maybe lastly on that, where are you seeing turnover and sort of productivity pieces, particularly around undergrounds? We've seen a number of your peers sort of highlight productivity and people issues there.

Maybe just broadly comment, have you seen that improve, or is that maybe worsened more recently as that sort of pull for labor and talent's only increased?

Matt O'Neill

It probably stayed about the same from what we talked about last quarter. We're still seeing turnover around the same rate.

We are very clear on our strategy around that is that we don't want to chase for an extra dollar or two for every hour of what people are chasing. We are sticking to what we've got.

We think we've got something more to add in terms of security and culture of the site. We are following that strategy.

We do see people come back to us, but we still are seeing that turnover of people chasing the extra money that's on offer in some other parts of the region. About flat is probably how I would describe that.

Hugo Nicolaci

Great. Thanks for that.

I'll pass it on.

Operator

Thank you. Your next question comes from Jonathan Chau from JPMorgan.

Please go ahead.

Jonathan Sharp

Yeah. Morning, Lawrie, Matt, and Rockey.

Just first question on Ernest Henry. Some good grades coming out of there.

How does that look for the remainder of the year? Is that sustainable?

Then also, just the first raisebore, when is that being commissioned?

Matt O'Neill

Yep. I'll cover that one.

In terms of the grade, it was scheduled that we're not in some of the lower-grade areas in the first quarter. Yes, over the course of the year, it will soften slightly, keeping us well within the guidance ranges.

That's planned and it won't stay as high as you've seen over the first quarter. In terms of then the raiseboring and ventilation circuits, we sourced an additional raiseboring unit and we have maxed out, if you like, the raiseboring capacity on the site.

The northeast block ventilation is on track for completion, once that opens up, it really does allow us to increase the productivity below that crushing horizon. All of that's in place.

If you're on site in the tour, we've got two raisebores running pretty hard together right beside each other on the surface.

Jonathan Sharp

Great. While I've got you, Matt, just on Mungari, that's ramping up.

I think it's getting close to capacity now. Just how do you think about sort of ore sequencing, getting higher-grade ore through the mill?

Is there optionality there, potential there? Would you look at anything around the area to acquire to potentially fill that mill with high grade as well?

Thanks.

Matt O'Neill

Yeah. No, in terms of the strategy at Mungari, it is that anything higher grade than what we have coming out of Castle Hill, which is our baseload feed, we will preferentially feed.

The undergrounds and the productivity from that are still maintained as the highest priority there. In terms of around the region and whatever else, there are a number of opportunities and not things that we are discussing with different people in the region.

We don't need it at the moment, but the grade and the commercial sort of side of where it sits is, yeah, we're open to those sorts of discussions.

Jonathan Sharp

Thanks. I'll leave it there.

Operator

Thank you. Your next question comes from Daniel Morgan from Barrenjoey.

Please go ahead.

Daniel Morgan

Hi, Matt. I just wanted to chase up that grade question at Ernest Henry a little more.

In the quarter, the grades that you had and the production outcomes at Ernest Henry were a bit higher than I would have thought. Was there any, if at all, benefit from positive reconciliation or anything that led to this result, or was it just purely mine sequencing and therefore we should expect it to soften in the quarters ahead?

Matt O'Neill

Dan, it's essentially the second option that you described there is no, there wasn't a reconciliation from the processing plant over the quarter that contributed to the uplift. It was where we are in the cave and the grade zones.

We're not in that barren zone at the moment. We will move through that over the course of the year.

The grades will soften over the next couple of quarters.

Daniel Morgan

Thank you. Then, Adam, just at Cowal, obviously, the shut's been moved to the December quarter.

I can see that. Very strong milling outcome for the September quarter over a 9 million tonne rate.

Is there benefits from this oxide material coming through that means you can mill more? Obviously, there's problems with the back end, but can you just talk about what's happening on the mill on throughput, what was experienced through the quarter, for the throughput outcome you've got and where you see that going in future quarters?

Thank you.

Matt O'Neill

Yep. Yes, in terms of the mill throughput, one of the benefits that we're seeing is the E46 pit is predominantly an oxide feed, and we do see that go through the mill better than what we were seeing the fresh rock in terms of that.

That is what's contributing to the uplift along with the normal reliability and programs the team have on site. That will continue, we look over the course of the next probably 12, 18 months, we will have oxide feed available to us.

Our planning at the moment is up to 25% of the feed into that mill can be oxide. The reason we limit it to that is it starts to cause a few concerns for us in the back end in terms of mass flows and viscosity of material.

We have seen periods, depending on the type of oxide, where we can run above that. Correspondingly, we do have some every now and then where we struggle through that and we have to reduce below the 25%.

We'll look to continue that oxide feed at least until stage I comes back online. It's also the benefit for us in the other area Cowal, where some of the other closer to surface feeds is an oxide as well, which helps us with our throughput rates, but that's the key driver in terms of the uplift you've seen.

Daniel Morgan

Thank you. Just last question.

Just the Red Lake power issue, a hell of a lot of interruptions. I've heard that that is partly an integration of a local communities into the grid.

Is that accurate? Then, what's been the experience month to date, and when is an improvement in sight?

Thank you.

Matt O'Neill

Your description is accurate. That's sort of where we're feeling is cause some of the instability in the line.

Without getting too technical, a lot of the trips have sort of been under/over voltage trips, and so we're working with Hydro One and the lines around really understanding what the set points are and the settings on the network, and marrying them up to the same ones that protect our equipment on site. That's the main level of work that's occurring.

We are expecting to see that improve as we essentially operate as a unit rather than independently. That's important for us obviously as we enter into winter.

There's a lot of work going on there. They've been quite open and discussing the topic with us, and we'll work through that over the course of the next probably month or two.

Daniel Morgan

Okay. Thank you, Matt.

I appreciate your perspective.

Operator

Thank you. Your next question comes from Levi Spry from UBS.

Please go ahead. Levi, your line is now open.

Thank you. Our next question will come from Mitch Ryan from Jefferies.

Please go ahead. Good

Mitch Ryan

morning, guys. Appreciate your time.

Just with Ernest Henry, you'd called out that that was also going to undertake a shut during the quarter. Did it undertake a shut?

Obviously, you had very strong volumes. I just wanted to confirm that.

Matt O'Neill

It did, and we've completed a minor one in the last week as well in October. It ran exactly to plan over that quarter.

Mitch Ryan

Okay. Perfect.

Thank you. We've talked about the grid instability and the remedies for that around Mungari, but can you just talk to Red Lake grid instability?

How far towards remediation are you? Are you comfortable that that has now been fixed?

Matt O'Neill

I think the Red Lake one is probably closer than the Mungari issue. The Red Lake one is really around the additional load on a spur line on the network and causing it to fluctuate differently to what it has in the past, and we're working through that with the provider there.

In terms of the Mungari one, that's been an ongoing one for the region that people will be intimately familiar with. The works that we're doing at the moment on that are really around limiting the impact of the hard stops.

The softer stops, where we get a little bit of notice, are a little easier for us to manage operationally because we can wind down the plant and we don't sort of have some of the aftereffects in that scenario. What we want to try and do is have that same scenario for hard stops.

We're investigating installing a battery to help us, if you like, softly close the plant when we have those events. That one is still a little way away, 12 to 18 months, probably, at best.

They're the two scenarios in terms of power.

Mitch Ryan

Okay. Appreciate it.

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Once again, if you would like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad and wait for your name to be announced.

Your next question comes from Matthew Frydman from MST Financial. Please go ahead.

Matthew Frydman

Sure. Thanks.

Morning, Matt, Lawrie, and Rockey. Maybe just rounding out that Red Lake power discussion, sorry to labor on it, but just to tie it in with the earlier discussion, I guess, on the second half weighting in terms of volumes and grade.

I guess, what's the risk that if you have ongoing issues that some of that second half weighting or some of that guidance stuff is put at risk? Are you already at the point where that's a consideration, or are you comfortable that it's manageable from here on out if things can correct themselves?

Lawrie Conway

Look. Matt's outlined the issues that we're dealing with the power instability.

I think the plant has the capacity as Matt has outlined. When we've looked at the full year and the guidance and where we're at at the end of the first quarter, we're working on the basis that the remediation work that Matt said we're working with with the power provider, if they come through, then we have the capacity in the plant to put more tonnes through.

If we continue to have the power outage, then that's beyond our control, and we'll process whatever we can through the plant, and we'll assess it as each quarter goes by.

Matthew Frydman

Got it. Thanks, Lawrie.

Maybe moving on to, I guess, the cash movements during the quarter and, I guess, on a forward-looking basis as well, obviously, a pretty big working cap drawdown during the quarter, which you highlighted, or working cap build, I should say. Do you expect I guess a further unwind of payables looking forward, or will that normalize in the December quarter, do you think?

Then also, just any other kind of significant cash movements that you think are worth flagging? Am I right to say that you guys are due a payment from Triple Flag in December?

I guess, any other general comments on sort of cash tax catch-ups or anything to give us a bit of a guide on cash movements, please?

Lawrie Conway

In terms of the first quarter, yeah, $136 million outflow. September last year was over $100 million outflow.

September is generally an outflow quarter, and quite significant in terms of year-end capital that comes in the June quarter, and this was significant, $40 to $45 million worth of equipment at Cowal and other things at the year-end, underground transition and the like. That will depend on where each of the projects are at.

Our short-term incentives are paid annually in September for the entire company that are on that scheme, so that's what impacts in terms of the September quarter. Then we did have an agreement on an insurance receivable for Ernest Henry at the end of the quarter.

When you look at the short-term incentives and the insurance for Ernest Henry, you're getting about $60, $65 million that won't be an outflow in the December quarter. In fact, the $25 million at Ernest Henry will be received in the quarter.

You'll see Q2, Q3 lower, generally, depending on the copper price, and then Q4 as per sort of the June quarter. Other cash items, you're right, we have the $120 million receipt from Triple Flag in the December quarter.

In terms of tax, it's about $100 million a quarter. We have to make our final payment for the FY '26 tax year in December of this year, and that's what does impact it.

You'll see last December, that tax payment was about $200 million. You're probably going to see something around that again, where we paid $100 million this quarter, so that's normal in the quarter plus the top-up in December.

They're the main ones that you're going to see.

Matthew Frydman

Got it. Thanks, Lawrie.

That's really helpful. Then maybe just finally, on the smaller end of things, but I noticed you guys made an equity investment in Arizona during the quarter.

Can you maybe expand on the interest there, and yeah, why that was an attractive investment? Thanks.

Lawrie Conway

Yeah. Glenn touched on it a little bit, the Philadelphia project with Arizona Gold and Silver.

When we looked at the project, by that their farm-in was structured, was through the equity. We took a 9.9% equity holding in Arizona Gold and Silver for the Philadelphia project.

It's something that's not had deep drilling. We believe with deeper drilling, there's an opportunity.

It's about a 3 km strike. It's got capacity to be a size that would fit for Evolution, and that drilling program is commencing now, and that's how we've invested in that project through equity.

Matthew Frydman

Thanks, Lawrie.

Operator

Thank you. Your next question comes from Levi Spry from UBS.

Please go ahead.

Levi Spry

Apologies, team, for before. This is just Ben.

I just don't want to harp on the power discussion too much more, but at Mungari, what we saw originally there, is there any kind of read-through to Kalgoorlie Broadly, is there anything to say that the expanded KCGM mill, just looking for any risk or insight there, please.

Matt O'Neill

Sorry, Levi, I didn't quite catch that. Some of that broke up.

It's, go with apologies. Would you mind repeating that?

I think you were talking about how do we see the regional power scenario in Kalgoorlie, but if you can confirm that?

Levi Spry

Yes, that's correct. Just sort of wondering the regional power outlook at Kalgoorlie.

Just how that's affected Mungari in the past quarter and sort of whether there's risk to do with the KCGM mill ramp-up. Just looking for your insights there.

Matt O'Neill

Yep. I think a lot of the issues in that region are being caused by the capacity and where the generation sits.

Additional load is a risk for the region. That said, there's additional behind the meter in the region as well, there's probably an offset in that.

What we are really wanting to do, there's two things. Way we're approaching it is the shorter-term one, which I talked about with the battery, and then the longer-term one, we're doing a lot of work around what does that look like for us.

I think we're not expecting necessarily the regional situation to change or get a lot better in the short term. That leaves us with a couple of options around where we put it.

Levi Spry

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Your next question comes from David Coates from Bell Potter.

Please go ahead.

David Coates

Morning, guys. Thanks very much for the opportunity this morning.

Just, sticking a little bit with the regional or the or the sorry, the exploration development, topic which was just touched on. The the what's what are what are you you kind of complete on Carnaby in the coming What is What are the first steps going to be on completion of that acquisition?

Matt O'Neill

Dave, first step is to finish the study, which will run for about 12 to 18 months. In parallel to that, we'll be working through permitting and other requirements that we'll need to start mining so that when the study's finished, we're able to move straight forward with that.

I think we talked a little bit about it in The plan for the project by Carnaby versus us, where they were going to toll treat and the like versus we're going to bring it down to our operation, therefore, the study has to adjust to that. The first step is to finish that study over the first 12 to 18 months.

David Coates

Cool. Then again just on exploration, you got a number of projects on the books.

What are the key ones that we should be looking at for perhaps that might bring through the most material results, I suppose, without predicting drill hole results and stuff. Which of the programs sort of coming up in the next 6 months do you think might have the greatest materiality?

Matt O'Neill

Dave. Cloncurry, all the land in and around Ernest Henry in the Australian operations, that's what we're focused heavily on here.

Then we've got four opportunities in Canada at the moment we're working through. Two Times Fred, Clisbako in British Columbia, those programs will finish through the course of this year.

Then we've got Lake St. Joe and Octave over in Ontario and Quebec.

Then the Philadelphia project that we've just talked about that we've taken an investment in with Arizona Gold and Silver. That's the ones that will be in the greenfields in the Americas.

Really, as Glenn sort of talked to a little bit last month, in the greenfields, our focus is more on the Americas because of ease of access, the amount of opportunities, and entry cost. Australia, we're going to be very heavily focused on the Cloncurry land in and around Ernest Henry.

David Coates

Excellent. Thanks very much.

Operator

Thank you. There are no further questions at this time.

I'll now hand back to Mr. Conway for any closing remarks.

Lawrie Conway

Thank you, Darcy, and thank you, everyone, for your time on the call today. As I said at the outset, a slow start, but we're still on track to deliver all of our FY '27 group guidance measures and that is weighted to the second half.

We are in good shape. We are delivering significant cash flows with a very low all-in sustaining cost, and we look forward to an updating you at the next quarter.

Thank you. That does conclude our conference for today.

Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.