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Q3 FY2026 · Earnings Call TranscriptOctober 23, 2026

Peter Kruk

Thank you very much, and welcome everyone on this call. With us also is Gunilla Öhman, our head of investor relationships.

Starting with who we are as NCAB. NCAB, we are a supplier of printed circuit boards, and those are the products that you see on the left on this slide.

They form the basis of any electronic product. Our customers, whether it is contract manufacturers or OEMs, they will mount the semiconductors and microprocessors and other electronic components on the boards to create the intelligent modules in their products.

The key takeaway with our product is that products like PCBs, unlike the semiconductor industry, are bespoke products. The PCBs are uniquely designed for the product they're going into.

That means that it is an engineered product with a lot of continuous changes during the lifetime of the final product. Here is where we, as NCAB, support our customers throughout that lifecycle.

We are a company focusing on the high-mix, low-volume end of the market. We are not involved in the really high-volume applications like consumer products, mobile phones, PCs, etc., but rather typically industrial applications or medical applications, where the product value in relationship to the PCB itself is significantly high.

The PCB is maybe sometimes only 1%, 2% of the total bill of material. Yet, the demands on these products are very high in terms of reliability and technology.

Given that, say, the PCB is a small part of their total bill of material, even larger companies have a relatively small spend on printed circuit boards. This makes it both hard and challenging for them to maintain the competence and resources to work with PCBs professionally.

Even if they do, they're still challenging to have enough spend to really get access to the leading PCB manufacturers worldwide. This is where we again make a difference, both by being able to support them with engineering, but also by combining the spend of our global portfolio of more than 3,500 customers, we can have access to the best factories worldwide.

We are in this high-mix, low-volume area. We are focusing with supplying the PCBs for demanding customers.

We thrive in the areas where there are challenges, whether they are technical or quality-wise, and we aim to supply with zero defects, produce sustainably at the lowest overall total cost for our customers. It is a very complex product, highly engineered, a lot of challenges technically, quality-wise, and as we see today, also from a supply perspective.

Our vision is to absorb that complexity, whether it is technical or commercial, and make it easy for our customers. Our model is based very much on being local, close to our customers.

We have therefore built up a network of companies in local markets where we're covering some 19 markets today with local companies. Yet, even though we have fully outsourced manufacturing, we are still very much invested in the manufacturing part of the supply chain.

Out of our close to six or a little bit more than 680 specialists around the group, we have around 120 of our colleagues working solely with securing supply chain, both in current deliveries, but also in future development. If we look upon what's going on right now, the global PCB market has resumed very strong growth after a few years of slowdown after COVID.

This is driven both by a general recovery in the industry, but in the last two years, we've seen a rapid expansion also of the data center market. Data centers per se is not really the market where NCAB has its main business.

This is typically more high-volume applications. We can participate sometimes in the more of the infrastructure areas.

This rapid growth that we're seeing in the global market right now, where the market has gone from around $85 billion in '25 to now being projected to be around $115 billion U.S. dollars, this rapid growth is creating a lot of supply challenges in the whole industry.

This rapid injection of demand is, say, occupying or sucking up available capacity. What started as being challenges in the PCB manufacturers' capacity already in '25 and in early '26 has now spread to the raw material supply.

What you use in the high-tech data boards requires certain high or low-loss materials, etc., and that is now skewing the supply chains of raw material, where more and more production capacity is being directed over to these kind of materials, which is also creating then further bottlenecks in regular industrial applications. As you can see, NCAB is also now showing a really strong growth in this market, and that is being reflected in our third quarter.

If we move to the third quarter, we see a rapid growth in our order intake. Our order intake is up 166% versus prior year.

This is very much, say, a combination of underlying, say, good double-digit growth for us, but then we also see significant forward orders from customers, and also significant price increases in the market, all driven by the shortages in general supply. We have solid underlying growth in all of our markets, and we can see special strong growth in areas like industrial automation, defense areas, but also in the deliveries where we supply to infrastructure for data centers.

We also see a very good development in the net sales area, where we are now seeing growth of 54%. All of our regions also here are performing well, and we start to see some of the pricing effects from Q1 to start having an effect on our top-line numbers also.

We are very much, through our strong network and our factory management organization, we are becoming somewhat of a safe haven for customers. We have sometimes what we call a double positive effect from both ourselves having, say, a strong position with leading factories, and we also have those leading factories also maybe have better than average access to raw material.

We think we can give our customers an unfair share of available supply in the market, and that is partly driving our growth in this time. We also see in the quarter a positive contribution from [Boardchak?]

that was acquired here in late June. With the growth in net sales, we also see a strong growth in EBITA versus 2025.

We get a good leverage on the growth, but even if we have some minor FX headwind, predominantly from revaluation effects in the quarter. Gross margin declining marginally, as we are not getting fully transferred the price increases to our customers, but still quite stable.

M&A, we are continuing the work and expanding, and we have also announced one further acquisition, also important from the fact that we're now making a step into our East segment, and through the acquisition of the company IMP Electronic Solutions in Australia. This is a company based in Adelaide, and they are selling predominantly in Australia and New Zealand.

A company also like NCAB focusing on quality and high-tech applications, predominantly in industrial and defense sectors. Revenue in '25 was around 8, 9 million Australian dollars, and the EBITA margin is in line with NCAB overall.

We will take over 12 employees, of which six are in Australia and six of the colleagues are based in China. The transaction was signed here in mid-September, and we expect to see the closing happen later in quarter four.

If we then look more specifically at the numbers, we can see in the quarter, order intake, as I mentioned, up 166% to now reach 2,000 or 2,620 million SEK, compared to 985 in the prior year. Organic growth is 155% in U.S.

dollars, and that gives us also a very healthy book-to-bill of 1.79. Net sales up 54% to 1,463 million SEK, compared to 949, and this represents an organic growth of 45% in U.S.

dollars. EBITA grew with the increased revenue, and reached 211 million SEK, compared to 110 in the prior year, and we had 8 million SEK of adverse FX effect.

Gross margin, as I mentioned, declined slightly, 34.8% versus 35.2%, but our EBITA margin climbed up to 14.4% in the quarter, compared to 11.6% in the prior year. We're also happy to have a strong operating cash flow of 177 million, compared to 118 last year.

Our working capital is up versus last year, but somewhat stable versus prior quarters. Our net profit reached 129.8 million SEK, compared to 61 last year, and an EPS of 0.69 versus 0.33.

Tim, over to you.

Tim Benjamin

Thank you Peter. Let's dig into the numbers.

If you see here over the last 12 months in quarter three, we had a gross margin of 35.1%. We've been quite happy to keep a relatively stable gross margin even with everything that's going on in the market that you heard about from Peter.

Slightly below 35 within the quarter, but 35.1% on the average. If we take a little bit more of a look into the order intake and in the net sales, what you see in order intake is a total development of 166% up, backlog build of about 1.2 billion SEK, and in comparable units in USD up 155%.

When we dig a little bit into that 155%, you can see approximately 50% percentage points impact coming from higher prices, and around 80% impact coming from forward orders. When we then turn to net sales, we see that increasing around 54%, or in comparable units in U.S.

dollars around 45%. That again, as you heard from Peter, is a book-to-bill of nearly 1.8.

We saw a good impact within the quarter of positive pricing from the orders in H1. We've also seen a continued positive trend in several different industries, some of which being EV charging, aerospace and defense, as well as quite a few industrial customers old.

When we then turn and take a look at the EBITA, we see around 211 million SEK, as opposed to 110 million in the prior year. Very strong increase coming from high operational leverage, a good pass-through from pricing.

We also, as you heard from Peter, had a positive impact coming through from some of the recent M&A that we've been doing, including [Boardchak?] .

Then, to offset all of that positivity, we did have a little bit higher costs on the SG&A side from higher variable compensation. Overall, we ended the quarter at an EBITA margin of 14.4% versus 11.6% in the prior year.

As you heard, stable gross margins in the quarter. Then maybe over to you Peter.

Peter Kruk

Thank you. If we look into the individual quarters a bit closer, we can see also here all quarters seeing the positive effects from pricing and forward orders.

If we look specifically at Nordics, we can see the order intake is up 188% to 599 million SEK, compared to 208 last year. Organically, this is a growth of 159% in SEK and 158 in U.S.

dollars. We see pricing, forward orders, but we also see very good development in energy applications, defense, as well as industrial sectors.

Net sales up 43% to 290 million SEK, compared to 203. This represents an organic growth of 29% in Swedish kronor and 27 in U.S.

dollars. We see continued growth in the power and defense, and also supported by general industry.

With the growth, we see EBITA improve nicely to 40.4 million SEK, compared to 25.2, and the EBITA margin climbing up to 14% versus 12.4%, which is maybe more in line with our historical performance in the Nordic segment. Leverage here again we get from the net sales growth, which helps to drive the margin development, and we also see a positive contribution from Multiteknik on the EBITA side.

Looking at the European segment, also here, strong order intake growth, 143% to 12 1,205 million SEK, compared to 496. Strong pricing effects, forward ordering, and solid demand development from both industrial, but also automotive customers.

For automotive, this has been predominantly the truck and bus industry or heavy equipment, not so much pass car. Net sales improved by 35% to 628 million SEK, compared to 464.

We see basically now a good, strong development in most of our markets, but some that stick out are markets like Germany, Netherlands, and the UK. All markets are showing growth.

EBITA improved to almost 81 million SEK, compared to 46 in the prior year, and EBITA margin improved to 12.8% compared to 9.8% last year. Here again, it is strong leverage from the net sales growth in the segment.

Then we move to North America, where we have a very strong order intake of which is up 194% to 650 million SEK, compared to 221 last year. We see this in U.S.

dollars, of course, it's the same number almost, little FX effect. It's forward orders, and large part of the deliveries extending well into 2027.

There also here are positive development in defense and energy, and notably several larger orders for data centers, similarly to what we had in quarter one, also in this quarter. Net sales are up 89% to 424 versus 225 last year.

It's also 90% in U.S. dollars.

A large part of the growth is boosted by deliveries of larger projects won in H1, where we had both some scientific projects and data center infrastructure projects that we are now delivering out. We've also seen a continued strong development in our fast prototyping business, which is also nice to see.

EBITA increased to 71 million, compared to 35 last year, and corresponds to a margin of 16.7% versus 15.4% in the prior year. Here we see, of course, a very positive leverage from the added net sales growth, despite that actually some of these larger projects have a slightly lower gross margin.

Looking then finally at the East segment, order intake also here continued very strong, as it did in quarter two, with order intake increasing 180% to 166 million, compared to 60 in the prior year. We are capitalizing on the growth in high-tech areas, and I think also here, with the challenges in the supply base, NCAB's strong position with the factories, as well as growth of sales that we have with global factories, is helping us to show this extraordinary growth in the East segment.

Net sales are up 109% to 121 million SEK, compared to 58 in the prior year, and we can see EBITA increase to 25.5 million SEK, compared to 9.5 last year, which corresponds to margin of 21.1%, which should be compared to 16.4 in the year before. Here, of course, the strong top-line growth helps to create leverage on the EBITA side.

Tim?

Tim Benjamin

Thank you Peter. To talk you through a few additional financial KPIs here, return on equity up to 21.7% from 14.1% in the prior year, a significantly stronger earnings profile.

Net debt down to 1.2 from 1.6, a lot of dry powder for additional M&A in the future. Equity-to-assets ratio at 36.4% versus 41.5% in the prior year.

Working capital, both in absolute terms and in relative terms, up a bit from prior year, especially as we support our customers through difficult times, which you heard from Peter. Available liquidity a bit over 1.2 billion ready to go.

Maybe over to you Peter to talk a little bit about our pipeline.

Peter Kruk

Yeah. We consistently continue to develop our pipeline, and as we've said before, we've come from a historical situation with predominant focus in Europe, and then into North America, and extending further into looking at our East segments.

With that, actually being very happy that we were able to close a deal here in Australia, even if it's not the biggest of our acquisitions, it is a very good fit for NCAB, and is also an important first step to expand our position geographically in the East segment. A very healthy, continued pipeline and ongoing discussions for the future.

As we go ahead, we continue with our integration process with the companies we acquire, where, of course, important starting point is to gain, say, the confidence in the customers from the company we acquire, as well as the employees, which is really the two things that we are acquiring at starting point. Then over time, we mature and look more into how we can together find the best, sort of, way of taking the company forward.

We are continuously looking to buy good companies. An important part in the early stage is always to understand how the companies operate and in which way they differ, so that we may also learn from the companies we acquire, and not only sort of move them into an NCAB model.

Overall, we integrate, and we are looking to find important synergies over time. Of course, we want to see that the acquired companies, that we can support them to grow long-term by giving them access to our factory panel and our marketing activities, etc., as well as helping them drive quality and service through our factory management organization.

We, of course, also give them access through our factory side and our purchasing power and our logistics solutions, which can help them also save cost. Then finally, it is very much a cross-fertilization of know-how between these companies.

Not only can we help these companies, but these companies also help to make NCAB better over time. That brings us then to our concluding slide regarding our overall strategy.

We are a company focused 100% on printed circuit boards, and we continue to stay focused in this area, and believe very much in continuing with an asset-light model, where we don't take ownership of factories, but rather build strong partnerships. It gives us the flexibility and agility to face both challenges and exploit opportunities in the market.

We are, however, investing continuously in providing better and better technology and service for our customers, so that we may grow our market shares in existing markets and deepen the relationships with our customers. As we've taken the step now is an example with IMP, we are looking to expand the number of markets and our position in the markets, and we typically look to do this through M&A, as this is very much a relationship business, and this, through an M&A, it gives us a faster step into the market, and we can then help to grow from that position.

Then finally, it is still a very fragmented market. NCAB is the undisputed global leader in supply of printed circuit boards, but yet we only have a few percentage points of the total addressable market.

We are looking to find opportunities to consolidate also in the markets where we already have a position since many years. Thank you very much, and with that, I think we open up for questions.

Operator

If you wish to ask a question, please dial pound key five on your telephone keypad to enter the queue. If you wish to withdraw your question, please dial pound key six on your telephone keypad.

The next question comes from Jacob Edler from Danske Bank. Please go ahead.

Jacob Edler

Hi Peter, Tim, and Gunilla, and thanks for taking my questions and congrats on a really strong quarter. My first question is really on pricing.

It was 50% in the order intake here in Q3, up from 20% in Q2. What are you seeing in terms of kind of the pricing trend here as we're heading into October?

Is it continuing up? What is your kind of best guess on the price development here if we look ahead?

Do you still think that we will see prices at a high level until the constraints kind of ease at the end of the year or into mid-2028? That's the first one.

Peter Kruk

It's a little bit similar to what we saw in quarter one and quarter two, that you say the 50% we see is an average. I think we saw quite a big movement, say, very late in the second quarter and early in quarter three.

We don't see the market improving. It's hard to predict whether prices will continue up further, but we don't really see the market easing up until maybe second half of '27.

I think that is the general view just based on, say, the continued ramp-up of AI investments, as well as what we can see in terms of new capacity in terms of raw material production coming online. We do expect the supply markets to be quite challenging until at least second half of next year.

Jacob Edler

Very clear. As prices remain high or continuing up, at least from Q3 to Q2, do you still see here the last couple of months that the pre-buying activity kind of is continuing?

Obviously, we saw that in your numbers, but as of October here, is pre-buying activity kind of continuing as well?

Peter Kruk

I think we saw extreme pre-buy or forward orders being placed here in the third quarter. I would expect that at some point, say, when the supply situation somewhat at least maybe doesn't get better, but maybe at least it doesn't get further worse, at some point you're going to have a situation where customers have already placed forward orders and they will just continue to add months at the end.

It's not unforeseeable that the forward orders, it may continue for a few more months or maybe a few quarters, but at some point I think we're going to see the forward ordering diminishing. With that, we're probably going to see our order intake total number come down, as customers are, say, not placing just forward orders anymore.

Jacob Edler

Yeah. Tying those things together, as we just discussed, now you had an order intake of 2.6.

If I would kind of strip out the pre-buying element, I would be at, let's say, 1.7, or 6.9 annualized. That kind of underlying level, is that a level that you think you could sustain for a couple of quarters here as we look ahead, if I strip out the kind of pre-buy element?

Peter Kruk

It is, of course, hard to judge. I think we have solid positive development underlying in our business.

To what extent potential pricing could have kind of a dampening effect on demand, it's also hard to say. Right now, we don't see that, but it's hard to make forward predictions what this will do.

Jacob Edler

Mm. Very very clear.

Then I just had a question on the gross margin. I think you're doing a great job here considering how fast prices are moving.

It was at 34.8, just below the kind of 35 to 36% range. Would you say that the main driver behind the strength is that you've kind of revamped the strategy of kind of the 5-day quotation window instead of 30 days as previously?

Is that helping you in this environment?

Peter Kruk

I think that has been an important part. Of course, it's very hard to get fixed pricing, and to some extent, we are also subject to what you can kind of call dynamic pricing, where to some extent, because if our factories don't have material at home and they need to order material, they may need to pay a higher, different price when they get orders which are placed further out.

That may mean that prices may even need to be adjusted upon delivery. I think it is a very, say, unique situation, but it's been building up over some time, and I think we've had close dialogue with our customers and communicated around this.

I think we're working with our customers, and they understand the situation. This is something we will need to deal with.

I think the biggest problem, prices are, of course, a big challenge, and we are working hard to kind of minimize the impact for our customers, but yet, say, the even more important right now is to be able to secure supply. I think there we are so far performing extremely well.

We have very good, still extremely good, both delivery quality and delivery performance data, which actually is very comforting. Very helpful for the customers.

Mm.

Jacob Edler

Very good. Then I just had a question on kind of margins and OpEx growth, because last time, the last component kind of situation back in '21, '22, the margins on EBITA peaked at, let's say, around 14%.

This was kind of in an environment where the gross margin was 2 percentage points kind of structurally lower. Now you're already at 14%, book-to-bill is quite notable, FX is turning positive, IT costs will be down heading into next year.

In my view, margins should scale quite okay if we look ahead. Is there something missing here on the OpEx side of things?

Because also there, the OpEx side is quite fixed, that is the majority of it, even though there are variable elements.

Peter Kruk

In principle, of course, leverage helps, but, of course, we also need to ramp up to handle the extra activities. I think we can see a tremendous growth in the number of quotes and activities we're doing.

You can see it a little bit in our head count development. I think we have maybe added in the order of, a little bit more than 10, 15, around 10, 15 people since Q2.

I think since Q1, we are up around 30, or maybe 25 if you take out [Boardchak?] .

We are making some additions as well, but still, we do aim, of course, to have a healthy growth and profitability with that growth.

Jacob Edler

Good. Just, sorry for taking up so much time, but in Q1 you took 20 $20 million of larger orders that was connected to data centers and also research center, right?

How was most of that delivered now in Q3, or is there still some to be delivered in Q4?

Peter Kruk

I think the major parts, but maybe not fully all.

Jacob Edler

Largely over '27. Yeah.

Very clear. Thank you so much for those answers.

Peter Kruk

Thank you.

Operator

The next question comes from Jonny Jin from SEB. Please go ahead.

Jonny Jin

Thank you, and good morning, Peter, Tim, and Gunilla. I have a couple of questions as well.

I want to start a little bit on the orders. Obviously very strong here in the quarter, which is good to see.

On the forward orders here, do you see any signs of doubling ordering, that is that the same customer could place orders with you and other suppliers as well? Is there that type of dynamic on the market right now?

Peter Kruk

No, we don't see any signs of that. Typically, these are engineered and validated products, so that is not something we are seeing at all.

Jonny Jin

That's good. That's clear.

I know that you are very good at securing supply and such, but there's no sort of risk that customers buy too much and cancel orders, or is there that type of dynamic that we need to be aware of?

Peter Kruk

No, since all of our products are bespoke designs, they are firm orders. None of our products can be used for another application.

All the orders we have from our customers are firm and will be delivered. You could always ask, argue, say, is there a risk that some customers are right now, say, hedging themselves and building a little bit of inventory?

That, of course, can be there, but that is hard for us to judge. I think we try to separate out what are forward orders, where actually they're ordering ahead of time and placing them out, and that we can separate out as we have communicated, of what we're delivering, if there is some part of that which is also where they're building a bit more inventory than what they had before.

That is a bit hard for us to judge, but it's not impossible. I think that is some possibility as well in these days.

Tim Benjamin

Even if there was a situation where some particular customers had placed some orders and needed to change the delivery pattern, for example, there's so much demand in the marketplace right now for material that we could often find a different customer for a certain type of material. It rarely happens, from what we see, but we could.

Jonny Jin

That's good. Thank you.

That's clear. Then on the data center order here in North America, I think it was quite big here in the quarter as well.

Could you just shed some more comment about this? How concentrated are these individual customers, and is this sort of a recurring business or is this sort of one-off projects or how is the pipeline looking for this type of business entering 2027?

Peter Kruk

You could argue that the products are not, you can say, specifically data center products, but it's more in the electrical infrastructure products. Of course, these are products that may reoccur going forward as well.

These, of course, have been, say, larger projects, but we also foresee that these are business that could continue to also in 2027 for us.

Tim Benjamin

They can just be a bit lumpy sometimes.

Peter Kruk

Yeah.

Jonny Jin

Okay. Sounds promising.

Just one final from my side, and that is on the gross margin transfer. We talked about this a little bit, but do you expect to be fully compensated in Q4, sort of chasing given the price dynamics on the market right now?

Peter Kruk

I think our aim, as we said, has been to kind of maintain our gross margins in that band, 35 to 36%. It is with the rapid dynamics we've seen, somewhat challenging to maybe maintain that in this phase, but it is our aim to sort of maintain stability in the gross margins.

I think we are working well with our customers and trying to be open and transparent in what's going on, so that we are, say, working jointly to secure supply, and we are able to transfer the cost increases, which are inevitable in this day and

Jonny Jin

Understood. Thank you for all the answers, and that was all for me.

Have a great day.

Peter Kruk

Thank you.

Tim Benjamin

Thanks, Jonny.

Operator

As a reminder, if you wish to ask a question, please dial pound key five on your telephone keypad. The next question comes from Johan Lönnqvist Sundén from DNB Carnegie.

Please go ahead.

Johan Lönnqvist Sundén

Good morning. Thank you for taking my questions.

Peter Kruk

Good morning.

Johan Lönnqvist Sundén

My first question is about lead times and could it be your take on how fast the kind of order that you have taken the last, say, two quarters will kind of converted? Obviously, we're still talking about the two, three quarters, then obviously you have some pre-buying that comes further into 2027, but just to have a little bit of your view on how much of a volume contribution we could expect in the coming, say, two two, three quarters, as there's been some obviously, at the supply chain, and I guess you need to struggle a bit to deliver.

Tim Benjamin

No, I think the way you can think about it is that lead times, as we've been saying over the past couple quarters, have stretched out to be about two quarters on average. It doesn't always work that way.

We do have some quick turn orders as well, where we can deliver some things within the quarter, the very next quarter after the order intake. It's not that much, but it's there.

Typically, if you remember, quarter four is always one of those quarters where deliveries are a bit short in December, and end up happening in January. That moves a little bit more of that type of thing into quarter one.

Then you could imagine then that you'd see more of it in quarter two. On.

Some of these forward orders can be almost full-year orders in some cases, but I would say the bulk of it is over the next couple quarters. Mm.

Johan Lönnqvist Sundén

Maybe you highlighted that in the report, but the data center orders that you received, single out how big they were, and when you expect to kind of deliver?

Peter Kruk

I think they are north of 200 million Swedish kronor, but we have not sort of broken out exactly when they will be delivered. They will be staged.

Tim Benjamin

Largely over '27.

Johan Lönnqvist Sundén

Just to get a sense of that profile, will you start before Christmas or is it something for 2027? No,

Peter Kruk

no,

Tim Benjamin

no.

Peter Kruk

These orders will be delivered in 2027.

Tim Benjamin

Yeah.

Johan Lönnqvist Sundén

In general, delivery abilities, you have showcased during this quarter that you can deliver quite a lot of volume, but any risk that you can't fulfill your kind of commitments, to say?

Peter Kruk

No, I think we are actually in a quite good position. We are working very closely with our factory partners from both, of course, through our local factory management organization, but we're also from our group organization management traveling on a continuous basis, meeting with our factories, and not only are we important customers of those factories from our spend profile, but these are also factories with whom we've been working in many cases more than 20 years.

We have very long-standing relationships with our partners, and that also plays in our favor in these challenging times. I think we have very good, positive support from our factories and are able to sort of get what we call our unfair share of supply so that we can really keep both existing and potentially new customers happy.

Johan Lönnqvist Sundén

Excellent. Those were my only two questions.

I'll get back in line. Thanks a lot.

Peter Kruk

Thank you.

Operator

There are no more phone questions at this time. I hand the conference back to the speakers for any written questions or closing comments.

Gunilla Öhman

There are no written questions. I just would like to remind you that we have a Capital Markets Day, which is due the 19th of November, and we're going to send the invitation out next week, please look out for that.

Maybe we have one more question from the telephone conference now? No, we have a written question here from our shareholder from Amicom, Alexander Weinberg.

He is wondering, "To what extent is the unfair share leading to acquiring new or larger clients?"

Peter Kruk

This is very hard to quantify, but it's a very good question. We do see both with existing customers that we see that we get opportunities to take over certain projects, but we also see customers where we've been working with a long time, where we are now getting opportunities to quote and start delivering other products.

I think our business is extremely relationship-based. It takes a long time to make changes, and in some cases, customers may be reluctant to change if it's somewhat working okay.

I think this situation right now, it's opening the door, and I think that means that maybe it doesn't have a huge impact on the numbers we're reporting today, but it bodes well for our long-term development.

Gunilla Öhman

That sounds like an excellent end to today's telephone conference. Thank you very much, Peter and Tim, and also for all of you who listened in.

Welcome, as I said, to our Capital Markets Day, 19th of November. Thank you.

Peter Kruk

Thank you very much.

Tim Benjamin

Thank you.