Asseco South Eastern Europe S.A.

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Q1 FY2026 · Earnings Call TranscriptApril 28, 2026

Piotr Jeleński

We start traditional quarterly review. We will be talking in our traditional templates about Q1 results and business update, what do we see for the future.

First, summarizing the Q1, what we see. We see a very good performance in Banking continuously like last year.

It's mostly in the core banking solutions, but not only, also channels, and this contributes positively on a €1.4 million level on the operating level of the P&L. Another thing which is a bit different from the history, what we can see as a trend, we see a slowdown in the growth of net revenues, but on the other hand, we see even bigger slowdown in cost growth.

Yes? Cost growth quarter-by-quarter from Q1 last year to Q1 this year is slightly below 2%, which is a result of smaller salary pressure, but also some cost savings, optimization actions already undertaken in some operations, and we do expect this to continue in the rest of the year.

Flattish Payment, mostly due to the base effect of Q1 2025. In Q1 '25, we were not that conservative yet with the receivables write-offs in India and Dubai investment, we have recognized then around €1.1 million of positive result, which were later written off pretty much, yes, but this, comparable to slightly below zero this year, gives a €1.3 million difference, yes, in comparable numbers, yes?

In ECR and IPD, electronic cash registers, fiscal registers, and independent POS deployment, we see a very nice growth, especially in Croatia and Spain. Good performance of traditional POS business line, also with a contribution growth of €800,000 on operating level.

Dedicated Solutions not that good, much better than last year, still it's on the verge of breakeven in Q1, like last year we had an improvement in the following quarters, we expect the same this year, still not that happy that it's so low and it should be higher, yes? Cash flow, it's a huge improvement.

You will see in details, Michał will be showing to you the cash conversion ratios and cash collection. I think this is slowly the effect of cash focus of the managers, we are putting much more emphasis on this and on paying this cash out in form of dividends, and I think this trend will continue because we see a lot of actions ahead which are being undertaken by the business.

On transactional business, e-commerce is flattish minus, but please bear in mind, I mentioned before on conferences, the loss of two major banks in Turkey, e-commerce customers who are going in-house. This is the continuous effect from last year that will translate to this year as well, but we are trying to compensate with other e-commerce smaller customers.

IPD growing as mentioned, and traditional physical card processing business also nicely growing. Let's look at the numbers in details, Michał will show.

Michał Nitka

Yes. Welcome.

Our summary of results. First two columns, total numbers as we reported them in financial statement, and then following two, adjusted by hyperinflation reporting.

I will concentrate on those excluding hyperinflation. So, 6% growth on top line year-over-year, more in a moment when I will comment segments.

As you see, operating profit grew even more, 15% year-over-year, what is €1.8 million, similar amount on EBITDA. When we look at net profit, here we have similar growth in absolute numbers and, of course, bigger percentage change.

Few words what we have below EBIT. On financial activity, result is half a million better than previous year, but this is composed of few items.

Let's start with negative ones. The cost of dividends paid to non-controlling shareholders in those entities which we consolidate using present ownership method, total cost related with those dividends is €3.1 million in Q1 2026, and Q1 '25 we had zero.

Why it is like this? Partial dividend based on prior year result in Bosnia in company dwelt was distributed.

As we remember, dwelt had spectacular results last year, and part of this was paid, and this generated €2.7 million cost. Additionally, our subsidiary in Portugal, EthanPay, this year paid dividend a bit earlier than in 2025, in Q1 versus Q2 in 2025, and this generated €400,000 cost roughly.

Then balance on financial, foreign exchange recalculation and interest is half a million lower than in previous year. We have also positive ones.

One is related with restatement of contingent liabilities for acquired entities and valuation of put options. Here we have positive effect of €2 million, plus last year we have disposed one subsidiary in Turkey, Mobven, and this generated €1.6 million loss, base effect caused growth year-over-year.

Additionally, this payment terms for this transaction sale of Mobven was recently updated, we have signed annex, which resulted in shorter payment term, we changed discount included on receivables, and this has half a million euro positive impact. Overall to summarize, half a million more positive result on financial activity.

When we move to taxes, here taxes are higher by half a million euro, and this is due to simply bigger scale of business and bigger operating profit. When we look at effective tax rate, it is very similar, it's higher by 0.something percent, not big difference.

Let's move to results by segments, and Banking, €2.3 million growth of revenues, mostly generated by this line responsible for core banking solutions, with diversified structure of growth by activities, more or less half by delivered implementation projects and change requests, and half by repetitive, recurring SaaS and maintenance revenues. This growth in core was mainly in Southeastern Europe, in Serbia and Macedonia, together €1.6 million, and in Central Europe, €0.7 million, mostly in Romania.

Two other lines in banking, multichannel and security solutions, pretty stable revenues, slightly higher than previous year. When we look at operating profit in Banking, as Piotr already mentioned, €1.4 million higher than in 2025, with pretty big increase of profitability to 28% by 4 points.

In Dedicated Solutions, on top line we have pretty big growth, €5 million year-over-year, but 95% of this growth was generated by third-party solutions, mostly equipment resale. This resale didn't contribute much to net revenues or operating profit.

Geographically speaking, this growth is again Southeastern Europe, Serbia, and in smaller values in Central Europe, in Romania. Looking at operating profit, €0.1 million positive, a lot smaller than in Q3, Q4 previous year, but Piotr already commented it.

When we look at Payment, let's move to separate slide, here we have revenues drop by €1.4 million, and this is mostly in this line which is responsible for e-commerce and processing, €2.4 million revenues drop. We have here effect of India and Emirates, as already commented, Q1 was the last strong quarter for those operations.

This contributes €1.3 million drop roughly on revenues only. Turkey, yes, the two clients last year had decided to move to insource processing of the transactions, and one took this decision beginning of the year, second beginning of second half of the year, we have effect on year-over-year on this.

Those two drops I described were partially compensated by increase in Western Europe and Central Europe, mostly in Croatia, on e-commerce solutions. In other lines, very good ECR and IPD, growing revenues and growing operating profit, as Piotr already mentioned, mostly Western Europe and Southeastern, Croatia.

In POS-es, we have drop of revenues, but this drop is mostly on resale, and this resale, those deliveries of equipment we realized in 2026 were with bigger profitability, and operating profit increased, as we have mentioned already. ATMs, slight increase of revenues, but no major change in operating profit.

When we move to countries or regions, structured by regions, so as you see, Southeastern Europe is the leading one in terms of growth of operating profit, it's mostly due to Croatia, Payment, what I already mentioned. In Macedonia and Serbia, this is mostly contribution of Banking.

Central Eastern Europe, this is mostly Banking in Romania. As you see, Middle East and India, here we have decline of operating profit.

Let's move to cash flow and liquidity. As already mentioned, very good operating cash flow, €18 million operating cash flow for last 12 months, this is more than €5 million more than during 2025, with very solid cash conversion.

Operating cash flow to EBITDA 88%, by 5 points more than in 2025. When talking about investments, those presented in second line, CapEx, project-related CapEx for outsourcing projects or on networks, it is slightly lower than in 2025 by €2 million, and other investments are pretty similar, no big changes.

To summarize, very good cash conversion in Q1 2026. If we move to balance sheet position, cash increased by €8 million comparing to year-end, with parallel decrease of short-term loans, mostly credit lines and revolvings, by almost €4 million.

Other positions, no big changes, very similar to end of 2025. M&A liabilities, we commented this in February that we expect a drop in this position due to a planned realization of put options.

It will happen, but it's matter of time. Part of this amount for sure will be realized during Q2 2026.

Other positions, like receivables, liabilities, or inventory, pretty similar to last year, no big changes versus December. Good.

This is about liquidity, and let's move to Outlook.

Piotr Jeleński

Outlook for '26. The backlog growth is reasonable, it's a bit lower, as mentioned, on margin 1 level, 4-5%.

It's much better on the software part, on ASEE. On Payment, it's lower.

If, Michał, you can show, on the software part, it's on the levels of 10-7%. On Payment, it's lower.

We are expecting in Payment a catch-up in the second half of the year and some acceleration of contracting in this period, some improvement. As mentioned, this a bit slower growth is compensated by much smaller cost growth on the group level, which we expect to continue, including declines on employment cost because of the some restructuring measures and lower cost pressures, yes?

We just initiated some actions on AI usage. The promotion of AI tools and application of this is now fully at work.

We don't have yet clear monetizable effects that we could scale up or announce to the investors, but we do expect them to appear in this year quite soon, looking at the initiatives undertaken. On the business dynamics, nothing wrong is happening on the market.

We don't see any negative scenarios. It's more on the e-commerce I mentioned these two big customers going in-house in Turkey, but otherwise it's business as usual and no negative downtrends or trends on the market.

Overall outlook that we have given on last conference after the annual results, we still sustain that we expect something above 10, between 10% and 15% probably growth in 2026. On M&A, majority of the transactions in the near future will be on put-calls of existing acquisitions, but we have a pipeline of discussions.

With these discussions, M&A discussions, negotiations, you never know how they will end up, but I would expect some of them to materialize in the second half of '26. We will be informing you about this duly.

Additionally, as mentioned in the beginning of this presentation, we have accelerated cash collections. We do think this trend will continue, and the surplus of cash obviously we plan to either pay out in form of dividends in the future or to allocate this capital into investments, either internal development investments, growth investments, market development, or M&As.

We are very much expanding the portfolio of targets now in the regions where we operate to see where we can make such reasonable investments. Having said that, we are open to any questions.

Please, if you have them...

Michał Nitka

Something on chat.

Piotr Jeleński

On chat, or you can speak out. On chat we have something, yes?

Let me see. "Could you please share a few comments on the cost structure and any inefficiencies you have identified since TSS became a shareholder?

Do you intend to maintain the current cost base, or do you see potential to reduce expenses over the next 12-24 months? What EBITDA margin do you believe is achievable once all cost initiatives have been implemented?

Could you please distinguish between Payten and banking in your response?" Wow, that's a couple of questions.

Let's take it step-by-step. Cost structure inefficiencies, we are reviewing the KPIs, we are implementing much more capital efficiency ratios, yes, much more cash-related ratios, but also profitability, which is related to cash efficiency pressure, yes?

On average, for the business that we run, I would say we judge we are 10 percentage points profitability below the benchmarks we would like to achieve on a longer-term perspective. How much time it will take, it's hard to say.

2-3 years would be a good period if you ask me to achieve this. This should be achieved by two-dimensional actions.

One is cost consciousness and greater efficiency in the support activities and professional services implementation activities, but also we do expect this efficiency for cost cutting, but we do expect also some value-based pricing exercises, price renegotiations on some contracts where they were not properly indexed for price or they don't reflect the proper value provided, and this should generate extra revenues, which also should help to create profitability. This effect obviously can be much bigger in software units, in ASEE units, proportionally, but in Payten part, including especially e-com, we do expect some elements of this as well in terms of division, but probably bigger effect on ASEE than Payten in this particular case.

Cost base should reduce because of many measures, including pressure on efficiency, on activities, on maintenance and professional services, on support and professional services, using AI tools, yes, and this should also help in that. If I have not answered the question fully, just please expand on chat or in person.

"Capital-based KPIs, can you give us an idea?" Yes, it's ROIC-based.

ROIC hurdle rates, look, we are using 25% as a growth of net revenues and return on invested capital, but actually, we would like and we are pushing the businesses to have around 20% to 25% on the return on invested capital and this 25% to top it up with net revenue growth on top of it. So 25% would be the hurdle rate that we are pushing, but we are still distant from this level in many, many business units, to be frank.

"The big decline in infrastructure for outsourcing own networks, a reflection of this or just a seasonal impact?" That CapEx...

Yes, Michał?

Michał Nitka

It's like last year we were pretty intensive in this CapEx. We had quite big number of ATMs and POS replaced on contracts which we had with clients for 5, 7, 9 years, and simply this is seasonal effect.

This year we expect, based on forecast, lower investment, this type of CapEx.

Piotr Jeleński

We have some more questions. "Is it fair to assume that all incremental POS and ATM investment will be subject as well to ROIC of 25%?"

Yes, we would like so, yes. That's our wish, yes, but there's couple of actions we have to undertake to move in that direction, but the answer is yes.

You must bear in mind what we cannot share, the capital allocated into different business units differentiates in our group, yes? We have allocated bigger capital proportionally to software business units than to ATM and POS ones, reaching the threshold de facto from the start, the gap to cover is smaller than the software units internally.

Any more questions? You can also use the voice if you wish.

We love questions. Oh, we have some more coming.

Just give us a second, and we'll answer if it pops up on chat.

Michał Nitka

Mhm.

Piotr Jeleński

"When you say you are targeting margins that are 10% higher, are you referring EBITDA?" EBITDA without D, EBITA.

It's kind of our internal measure that we agreed. The difference to EBITDA is, Michał...

Michał Nitka

It's quite big because we have a lot of depreciation in which we have those POS and ATM devices, yes. These are few millions.

Piotr Jeleński

The impact on the profitability, probably you could translate EBITA and EBITDA similar, yes,

Michał Nitka

a

Piotr Jeleński

10% shift.

Michał Nitka

Probably, yes. Yeah.

Piotr Jeleński

The approximate answer is yes, on EBITA or EBITDA level, yes. "Are we planning to pursue less M&As under the new ownership?"

No, no, no. On contrary, probably more, but we have to get ready for this because the only thing that we are changing, and it's a good change, healthy change, is more ownership for the M&As by existing management, who will take it under their portfolio supervision.

For these M&As not to be solely my or Michał's responsibility, but to assume management responsibility how to manage this post-M&A transaction by the managers. We need some more training, education along our managers, but overall we plan to significantly over next 2-3 years accelerate the M&As.

"You mentioned incentivizing managers improve cash flow. Are there any further improvements resulting from changing the incentive structure?"

That's a complex one because actually the incentive structure is pretty comparable, formal to the previous one for '26. We wanted to change it, but because of some technicality issues we couldn't for '26, which will be changed in '27.

The changes are announced in which direction they will head and that they will be very much cash-impacted, yes? I believe managers already are taking actions or preparing the actions to fulfill these criteria, the answer is yes.

They are very much incentivized, and this will, as I said before, we expect some more positive impact of this, for example, as prepayment of many contracts. New one is coming.

"What are your thoughts on capital allocation going forward? Does TSS expect ASEE to return the majority of cash via dividends, or will you return cash into the business to fund future M&A opportunities?"

Both are acceptable. Both are good.

Basically, we want to invest with a 25% ROI impact. If we cannot do this, better pay out dividend.

If we can do this, then invest. As I mentioned, we are preparing to do this in such a way and we believe we can do it, M&A would be fully accepted.

If we see we cannot do this amount of M&As, we don't have enough targets, then dividends. Both are good, acceptable option.

I think it will take some time until we can fully eat up our cash in form of investments and M&A because we don't have today physical capacity to generate that amount of quality business to invest our full cash flows into such investments. I hope this time will come.

Michał Nitka

Of course, this year we have pretty a lot of expenditures on put-calls, yes, which are not new M&As, but we need to allocate a lot of cash to this.

Piotr Jeleński

Yes. Please, any more questions?

See, we are trying to answer as well as we can. Guys, if there's no more questions, we invite you to direct contact.

It will be a pleasure to talk to you, especially after the close period, and we are available for you. Reach out, and we'll be in touch.

Thanks for joining the conference. All the best.

Bye-bye.

Michał Nitka

Thank you. Bye.