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Q4 FY2025 · Earnings Call TranscriptMarch 25, 2026

Weronika Ukleja-Sałak

Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. It is a pleasure to welcome you to our conference, where we are going to sum up 2025 in both companies.

My name is Weronika Ukleja-Sałak and I'm responsible for marketing in Echo Investment, and it is a pleasure for me to host today's event. We will speak about 2025 in Archicom S.A.

It is a pleasure for me to present the Chairman, Waldemar Olbryk,

Waldemar Olbryk

and

Weronika Ukleja-Sałak

Justyna Kawa, member of Management Board of Archicom. Without further ado, I will then later invite Echo Investment and now over to Waldemar.

Waldemar Olbryk

Good morning. It is an exceptional place.

This is a location that perfectly defines the whole Echo Group, where Archicom quite unusually, I would say, complements how we create the urban tissue. The residential part here is very much present here.

We will be talking about it later on, but now together with Justyna, we would like to take you through the summary of 2025, and we will talk to you both about what happened in terms of business and financials, but we will also revisit Quarter 1 so that you can have a feel of the dynamic of Archicom right now. Let me start with the most important events.

2025 is yet another year, the fifth year since Archicom became a part of Echo Group. From a developer that had six projects, we now have 30 in the pipeline, and we were local, but now we are in fact a developer that, I think, aspires a lot higher than what happened in 2025.

What did happen, in a nutshell, the work that's very often unremarked, it's not seen, it's in the background, but it becomes recognized and awarded. This is what happened in March last year, where together with Echo, we had the opportunity to be awarded two prizes for the Fuzja project, not just the regeneration of this unique place, but also a mixture of ideas that makes it real, what we talk about actually comes true.

It becomes a place where we can make the cities of the future. Since the very beginning of this project, we said that Archicom was going to be a residential project.

We are a developer that sells record-high number of flats. This is what happened last year.

Last year, we managed to also sell an office project, Office 2, and we are 100% focused now on residential market. Thanks to being part of the group, we can quite boldly look forward, and just like the Lex Developer was an idea of what we can do in Mokotów, where we are launching two more projects and I will say a few words about them, they are present in Warsaw, but also in Kraków and Wrocław.

One of the important components that puts a framework to this discussion, well, Lex Developer is definitely a formula that creates unique places to live. September the 1st was when we opened the school that we completed by fulfilling Lex Developer requirements.

This is an exceptional school. Education also is held through, including components of sustainable development.

Last year was exceptional. We had record-high sales.

We also launched subsequent projects in the premium market, and we will tell you more about it in the second part of our meeting. If you look out the window, and for you here on site, you can also take a look at the building site in Towarowa.

What's very important to me is that for a while now, we have tried to diversify our portfolio. Step-by-step, we're not just selling more, but we're just selling a standard also that is popular with customers that want to live, but also want to be investors and are investors.

We are also increasing the share of popular standard products. We are being appreciated.

We are being awarded in that market sector. We use everything that we have learned with the average standard, but also the premium like here in Towarowa, which means that year-by-year, if you compare our sales results, our results are higher than 2024.

Since the very beginning of 2025, we said that it was going to be a huge challenge in terms of the handover, and indeed, almost 100% increase with a lot of emphasis on Quarter 4, exactly 2,138 handovers. These projects were everywhere.

There was huge mobilization, but also a great lesson for the whole company on how to prepare our clients, how to prepare investments, how we can actively and realistically build up scale, so that these plans are realistically foreseeable and scalable. We complemented our pipeline, and we applied the rule of sustainable building of our offer to match our sales aspirations.

We included some land purchases, and at this point, early in the year, we had 32 projects in the pipeline and almost 3,200 flats on offer. Now, what's happening right now on the market?

I think that it's a dynamic time. At the same time, it requires, on one hand, planning.

We want to be a developer—let me just use an internal term—that will be able to enter the growth trajectory that we can manage. This was 30% growth on sales last year, and I think that we can ambitiously and boldly announce, which of course will require a lot of work, we can announce that our aim is to be one of the top three in Poland.

We are right now number four, but we have a very positive outlook going forward. Now on the market itself, everyone says that there's a lot of supply, and I think we can deepen the analysis in every single one of the cities.

We will present such an analysis today, and I don't want to jump forward too quickly. Let me just say that having properties with very good locations and having ideas on how to develop them in various segments, even given the large supply that was the outcome of previous decisions, those are not decisions that are only apparent today, right?

When we are able to selectively introduce our offer, we can say that we have a good portfolio wherever we are present and in whatever locations. Please look at this slide.

Whenever we look at the market that grew by 80% in Q3 and Q4, and our Archicom sales grew by 70%. Please look at Warsaw, Wrocław, and Kraków, where we have definitely exceeded the standard from previous quarters.

Also in Katowice the same is the case. Poznań and Łódź had a low baseline in the previous periods, we are treating these markets, again, very much selectively, having good locations.

We are treating them as stable places where we can implement our sales plan. Although this might be a simplification, I can say that our results vis-à-vis the market benchmark are very good.

That includes both the marketing mix, the product preparation, and also the what to do and what not to do. This together means that we have had a very good dynamic towards the end of the year, but we can also say that we managed to sustain a solid level of sales on our basic markets, while also we managed to prepare for the future.

On an operational level, I think this is also of interest to you. Let me tell you what happened in terms of specific indicators.

It was our goal to maintain an offer ongoing for the subsequent 12 months, so that we can manage the land that we manage and the cash that we need to spend to be able to supplement the land bank. Quarter 4 was exceptional.

We exceeded 1,000 sold apartments. Other than this being 47% growth year-by-year in terms of quarters, most important piece of news that I want to communicate is that we have operational capacity, which makes it possible for us to go ahead with selling 1,000 flats in a quarter.

We're going back to our future forward planning to make sure that it's even more realistic. I remember getting this email from David who said that we did something incredible, we sold over 1,000 flats, this is an incredible achievement for all the teams.

Going back to the origins of Archicom, we were a local developer from Wrocław, and we are on the same or even better level of sales after 12 months. You can see in this slide as well the projects that are still in the Echo part that we are managing as Archicom from the point of view of sales, marketing, and fit-out.

Vitas Focha, for example, is already completed. It's 2.5 hours from Warsaw.

You can just jump on a fast train. That's what I always say.

This is quite unique as an example of the cooperation between Echo and Archicom, because this is a project that allows us to build resilience for our customers because those are quite simply very good locations. Now, handovers.

Since the beginning of last year, we said that it was going to be an exceptional year, and this is what happened: over 1,000 handovers. The level of handovers vis-à-vis 2024 is exceeded twofold.

Without going into details, I can say that step-by-step, these projects progressed. We were obtaining our occupancy permits and we were able to hand them over with incredible operational capacity.

We made a quick summary to make sure that we can match the expectations this year, because we have 3,200 flats to hand over in 2026. We want the process to be more predictable for the whole team.

Looking at the development process, we look initially first at whether or not we have land that makes feel secure. Now, the contracts that we have right now that are already signed, as well as those that are only at preliminary stage but are secured, secures over 10,200 flats—700 flats, 10,700.

We are diversifying between cities. We are seeing a lot of potential both in Warsaw and Kraków and Wrocław, where we can make more acquisitions.

Thinking about the safety of our organization, we still keep checking whether the model that we have developed is safe. 80% of our flats are meant to be sold before the occupancy permit is obtained.

We are convinced that this is possible to make sure that we close the deal on those projects that have been completed and close the sale up to 100% afterwards. We feel secure.

These are management decisions that mean that both forecasting, acquisitions, and launching new projects are, in fact, interconnected and things that we work on continuously. Let me just recall what happened in 2025.

We often say, 'Well, pictures, right? Or it didn't happen.'

These are quite unique, and we juxtapose them to what actually really happened in reality. I'm very satisfied to say that very often these projects look a lot better in reality.

You need to wait a little bit because if the handover's in winter, the green areas are not yet there, but they were purchased. We had also Gutenberg apartments that were sold here in the neighborhood.

3,274 that were sold over the last 12 months. The very big variety of our offer means that going forward, we are convinced, and you can see that Echo is in orange, dark blue is Archicom, you can see that our sales plans will be supplemented in such a way so as to be able to rationally manage our financial involvement in the locations that we deeply believe in.

Also, our customer advisors very often say that we have returning customers who value what we can offer, not just as a project, but also a form that we offer. I think now is the time for financials.

Over to Justyna.

Justyna Kawa-Rygielska

Let me present the financials. Consolidated P&L, in 2025, we had the revenue on sales on the level of 961.7 million, which resulted from handing over 1,320 flats.

We handed over flats in four out of six cities where we are present: in Poznań, Wieża Jeżyce stage two; Wrocław, the last stages of investment such as Planty Racławickie; in Łódź, we had three stages of the Zenit residential area; and in Warsaw, Modern Mokotów stage six. The gross profit is 320,600,000 and the gross margin 33.3%, which, as we declared before, is the desired level between 30% and 40% that we want to sustain.

Now, comparing it to 2024, in 2025, we had a different mix of projects. That's why the gross margin level is slightly different.

Now, for the costs of sales and general management, as we declared in Quarter 3, we work intensely to make sure that these costs could be optimized. The first outcomes are visible towards the end of 2025.

When we compare to 2024, we've got a decrease by 10% in proportion to each apartment sold, because that's the kind of model of calculation that we seem is appropriate in this case. As I mentioned in our previous conferences, what is a target for us and a point of reference is 50,000 per flat sold.

We still need to work on those items in 2026 and going forward. Now operational profit is 142,600,000.

The profit on continuous is 109.7 million. We added some information here that I think shows you quite well the potential of Archicom going forward.

At the end of 2025, the value of the flats that were sold through preliminary agreement, but not yet handed over to our customers, is 2,300,000,000, which gives you some idea about what our revenue is going to be like in the subsequent periods. Balance sheet: for assets, the total assets at the end is 3,739,000,000, and that's a growth by over 30%.

It needs to be reinforced that we have accumulated quite a lot of equity. 1/3 is the growth.

A lot of that is the reserve. 25%, I said last year, it's now 60% towards the end of 2025.

The growth has been quite even over the quarter—distributed over the quarters. This is due to the fact that we implemented an intense growth strategy.

We purchased new land. We had 32 new development projects, which translated into about 6,600 flats.

As for liabilities, here the biggest item are short-term liabilities. Among short-term liabilities, over 60% are customers' prepayments.

Long-term liabilities are mainly bonds, over 670 million from this item. Our equity, in fact, has not changed significantly as compared to 2024.

As for the sources of financing, we are in favor of a diversified sources of financing. They are to a large extent our own capital, our money from bonds, credit facilities, and also customers' prepayments.

I think when you look here at this structure of the sources of financing, then the item that increased most, by over 500 million, this is 100%, are customers' prepayments. This is a direct effect of what Waldemar has said, that is a significant growth in sales volumes.

As for debt ratio at the end of the year was 0.6, it has not changed as compared to Q3. It is also related to the fact that in Quarter 4, we used the kind of purchases opportunities because they were very favorable to us.

All the time, the value which is preferred in the indicator is below 0.5, and we will be aiming at it in the following periods. We assume that it would somehow naturally happen together with the increase in our activity.

The funds obtained have been used in 2025 to purchase land. We've bought land for the total value of 380 million PLN.

In addition, 100 million was part of prepayments for purchases of other land, which, in fact, was converted or implemented in Q1 2026, which means that our plan for land purchase with a slight shift to Q1 2026 has been implemented, and we are working on next purchases. As for bonds, in 2025, that is last year, we bought bonds for the total amount of 62 million PLN.

In 2026, we don't plan buyouts, but the first is at 28th—the Quarter 1 is '27. What should be emphasized is that all the time, we are oriented at intense growth.

We have not yet achieved the ultimate ceilings as regards sales and handovers that we are aiming at. We are really focusing greatly on investments and on growth, but of course, on condition that we maintain an appropriate low debt and flexible sources of financing.

As of the 31st of December 2025, we have a potential of 227 million zlotys, that's in cash. Archicom has been a stable payer of dividends, as you can see, every year, and we have paid a dividend starting from 2018.

Of course, the last year is the most interesting that because despite implementation and intense CapEx in growth, we also managed to pay the record dividend, the record dividend in the history of our company. Of course, we intend to maintain such good practices and we will inform you about the details at another time.

That's it as regards the financial part.

Waldemar Olbryk

Just to close information of this meeting, I think we should say what has happened since the 1st of January. We've been really satisfied and we've been working hard, our team has been working hard.

The Kabaty project is very good, because that decision has been obtained by us, that we would soon start the project. As for the Lex Developer project, that would be also our contribution into public infrastructure.

The know-how in our organization enables us look positively at other projects, both in Warsaw and Wrocław. These are the projects in the framework of which we are discussing the cities of the future, the cities where there's good living conditions, good functioning conditions would be met.

This would be [unclear] West in Wrocław, on the next stages of Modern Mokotów, or another project in Warsaw at Postępu street. We would continue the project and I encourage you to really focus on that part of my presentation.

Here Kabaty. What's also crucial for me, some other projects such as the launches that close housing estates like Jeżyce, Wieża, Zenit, or then introduce for sales Apartamenty Gutenberga that are said a new standard as regards the premium definition.

As for investment projects on the right-hand side, if the land purchase are on the left-hand side, in Q1, we got occupancy permit for Flow in Łódź and for Południk, a very interesting project in Wrocław. These projects would contribute to the result of Q1, including those that have been shifted due to the speed of sales.

These processes would be finalized in Q1, so that we could of course meet later on and discuss it in more details. That was 2025, that was year of very, sort of, hygienic, let's say, growth.

We could treat it like that. That also has been the year that allows us look very boldly into the future, 2026.

We look at the housing markets which are very liquid, like Warsaw, which is the key market. We've been working on the development of our offer within the popular segment.

We see it's needed, and we are looking strongly at the market in Tricity. That means that our goals for this year as regards sales is between 3,200, 3,500, and the handovers that I mentioned earlier is of above 3,000 units.

Lex Developer projects will be finalized by us given the stage they are at now, and we would like to launch on the market as many as possible out of them. We would focus on operational excellence.

We know that's a very broad slogan, but if thinking about construction efficiency, operating efficiency, then at any stage of our organization, and the model that we worked out or have been working out for five years now is scalable, and therefore, we look boldly and realistically that we would become one of top three among Polish developers. These are our plans for 2026.

Weronika, over to you. Thank you so much.

Weronika Ukleja-Sałak

Waldemar, thank you very much for your presentation. Now we have a short break, and I'd like now the members of the Echo Investment board to take their seats.

Please take your seats close to the stage, because very soon you will get back to the Q&A session. Now we will start summing up 2025 in the Echo Group, and this part of the presentation will be delivered in English.

Right now, I would like to invite Nicklas Lindberg, CEO of Echo Investment, and Maciej Drozd, our CFO, to the stage as they will summarize the 2025 activity of the whole group, giving you a broader perspective of both commercial, residential, and living part of our business. Welcome, Nicklas.

Welcome, Maciej. I will just give you the stage.

Without further ado, I think, Maciej, you will start, and after this part, we'll have a Q&A session.

Maciej Drozd

Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. It's my pleasure to start this presentation and start from the highlights.

Shortly speaking, 2025 was a great year for Echo. We can call it transactional year, because a lot of things happened both on the sell side and on the buy side, on financing, refinancing, and payment of dividend.

If you look at that one by one, we need to say that in commercial sector, we delivered on our promise to sell commercial assets. On the market that was, as we said before, during the year, was not obvious, was not easy, but we did it because the quality of the assets that we built, the quality of tenants is exceptional, and on that basis, we were able to transact, to sell City2, Brain, that building where we are here, and also shopping center Libero.

We also were part of a landmark transaction in PRS sector, our affiliate Resi4Rent, where we built already the largest PRS platform in Poland, signed agreement to sell 18 projects to TAG, and this transaction was signed in Q3, and we expected to close soon. We also bought a project in Warsaw City Centre, and I think Nicklas will tell more about what is happening in office segment around us, in Warsaw CBD.

Residential sector, as Archicom presentation already made it clear, was unquestionable success with 30% year-on-year sales growth, and from the whole Echo Group perspective, doubling number of handovers, if we look at the full year. We started many projects, 17 in residential segments and four in commercial segment.

Also finance was area of very important activity. We started to reduce our debt, our corporate debt.

The bond debt of 50 million was repaid, and we already continue it in 2026. We have repaid, together with disposal of the projects, over 400 million of project debt.

What I think is probably the most important for all the investors, that we did pay 330 million of dividend in Q4, which was 80 groszy per one share. You can see now pictures of the assets that we sold in 2025.

I don't need to repeat the names. I would only like to say that the value of disposals was around €300 million.

To repeat, that we reduced debt by virtue of disposals by 40 million, and we also signed this landmark Resi4Rent transaction that we expect to close this year. We are not stopping.

We continue to sell. We have equally ambitious list of assets to be sold in 2026.

Two other buildings of Brain complex. One was sold in '25, and we continue with the process, and we can proudly say that we already sold the first one in 2026 out of two, and the second one is in advanced negotiations.

We also have two other projects, two other office projects, that are completed this year on our list of assets to be sold in 2026. We expect to free around half a billion of cash as a result of this transactions.

We started to do that. We already received 60 million out of the first disposal of building Brain Park A.

With these funds, we will reduce our corporate debt, we will invest in new projects, especially in living sector and in Warsaw CBD, and obviously, we will continue to pay dividend. You can see on this slide more details of the building that we already sold this year in Kraków, and I think it's fair to say that like all the buildings that we built, lease, and sell, it's a building of very high technical quality, which is certified by BREEAM Outstanding certificate, that is leased to prime tenants like PepsiCo or Ernst & Young, and it's also well located in Kraków.

These buildings, we are able to build, lease, and sell successfully. If we look what we are planning to do in 2026, I think it's fair to say that we want broadly to continue what we started in 2025, what we declared to you, to our investors, as our plan.

We want to continue the disposal of office assets. We'll continue to look for new projects in Warsaw CBD, new commercial projects, because we strongly believe that this is the part of the market that is performing in a way which is very good and makes this project very interesting for us to invest, to develop, to lease, and to sell.

In living sector, obviously, doesn't need to be even said, but I will do it anyway. Archicom is our key focus.

We expect further sales and handovers growth as we support management of Archicom in these plans. We will continue development of new PRS projects.

We are not only selling this assets that I mentioned before, this 18 projects, but we are also starting new projects in this segment. This segment, we believe, is attractive, especially in Warsaw, but not only.

We'll continue to develop our student space platform, where we currently have over 1,000 beds under construction, including projects in Warsaw, which is again the most attractive market for this segment. In finance, we'll continue to repay the debt, to invest, of course, in new projects, and obviously, to pay dividend.

Echo Group is really about projects. This is what we do.

This is what we are about. Warsaw Kabaty is, I think, very interesting example of a cooperation within the group and long-term development, and also how we adapt to changing market conditions.

I would like to remind you that the project was already completed partly by Archicom, and because other part of the project was for commercial use, we had to work together with Archicom as a group on converting this project to residential use. That was successfully done, and the project will start this year, and later there will be even specific presentation done here on this particular project, which is very, very interesting, and is a great example of our strategy, but also flexibility.

Afi Tower is another example of fantastic project and very unique one. This is the project that we started already last year.

Of course, the construction of such a high building, 40 floors, 150 meters, will take some time, but we already see a very, very strong tenant interest, and we are on this basis very optimistic about the outcome of what we are doing here. The same can be said about the next phase, which is smaller building, less square meters and also not that tall, but again, also here, we have a very, very strong tenant interest, and that's a project that we are starting.

Actually, it started already now. We got the building permit, and if you look outside of the window here, you can see that.

Another one, it's really a long list, but we are really doing many, many projects, is Gutenberga apartments and Towarowa Gardens. It's project that also was started this year.

It's high-end residential done by Archicom. Again, there will be more on the whole Towarowa complex today.

Please expect more details and a lot of interesting information. To sum up, Q4 was very successful quarter from our perspective.

Residential sales and handovers in Echo Group both exceeded 1,000 units. We are at the level that we would like to continue and achieve each quarter.

Of course, that was the first time when we hit that level. It's possible, and it's our ambition to continue to be at that level.

We sold first of the Brain Park buildings, and the next one was in Q1. We also sold a stake in Libero Shopping Center, and we did pay 80 groszy per share dividend.

After Q4, already now, already this year, we are working on Kabaty after having achieved approval for the change of the zoning. We sold Brain.

We are building Towarowa. I think what is also important to say that we already repaid 50 million of public bonds, which is a continuation of the debt reduction plan that I mentioned before.

Key financial data: as I already mentioned, we look at the Q4 as a good quarter for us. The net profit exceeded 100 million, which was better than the consensus, and, of course, much better than a year ago, where actually the result was negative.

We can say this is the quarter that makes us satisfied, but, of course, we will look at further improving this results. Although they are better than the consensus, they are not a full ambition that we want to realize in the future.

I already mentioned the handovers and the fact that we exceeded 1,000 units handed over in Q4 2025. On this slide, you can see how it looked in 2024, and now in 2025, of course, we had a very very steep growth.

If you look, of course, in the future, as I mentioned, company ambition is to, of course, deliver even better results in 2026 and beyond. Nicklas?

Nicklas Lindberg

Yes, thank you, Maciej. If we look into the segments of living, which is one of our bigger segments of the market, we have already said that we have sold in Archicom a record year of 2,850 apartments, we continue investing in our land bank, and we continue to grow both in results, but also handovers and sales.

This is something that we are just in the beginning of the trend on continue of our growth in the living sector. What you see in Poland is a stable sales on all the main markets.

What you see is the bigger players are getting bigger, the smaller players are suffering much more on the market today. The market in '25 versus '24 was a smaller market, but still Archicom's market share grow by 30%.

We want this growth to continue into 2026. This is just in the beginning of the growth, and we are not really there at the level where we hoped for, and we're going to continue growing going forward.

This is the plan that we have communicated from the beginning. We were last year in 2,800-plus, this year we're going to be in the range of 3,200 to 3,500, and then we're going to get up to 4,000, and that we have communicated.

This is the level where we feel we can continue trading on that level or slightly below for many years going forward. We are still in the growth strategy.

We will continue growing. We will continue investing much more in Archicom, much more in land banks, starting new projects, because we believe a lot in the market, we believe a lot in the growth, and we think with the Archicom quality that we have done until today, where there is a lot of more market share that could be taken by the business.

If you look at the sales spread over the different markets, this is the market that we're going to continue focusing on, with the exception Katowice, where we did one project, and after that one, we are not going to do anything more on the Katowice market. Like I have highlighted many quarters before, a market that is very, very interesting for us is Tricity.

On Tricity, we're going to continue evaluating now during 2026, and once we see an opportunity for the Tricity market, that is something that we're going to explore further. We're not going to enter the Tricity market by a single project.

If we're going to enter the Tricity market, we will enter by a bigger acquisition into that market. Handovers, we continue growing our handovers.

We doubled from last year, and we're going to continue increasing in 2026. This is something that is important.

This is what's going to come into our P&L, and going forward, this is something that's going to grow in line with how the sales are growing the year before. Our continuous growth in sales will then translate into further growth for the handovers for the coming years.

The offer is stabilized across all the different markets. We are focusing a lot on the bigger markets.

We want to have a big market share in Warsaw, Wrocław, and Kraków, that are the biggest markets where we'll get very, very good profitability out of our projects. Łódź and Poznań are very strong markets for Archicom.

We have taken a good, strong market share there, and we're going to continue developing our big projects in those markets. In Poznań, we are going to have another project that is based on the new plan being implemented, that we're going to start this year on the old Tesco in Opolska.

We're active on the six different markets. We are analyzing the seventh market, which is the Tricity, which is an interesting market for us now in the future where we're going to exceed the 4,000 apartments.

All these markets here, we're having a big market share. We're going to continue growing our market share.

A big focus from inside the whole group, which you've seen also now in the presentation of the project we are starting, is Warsaw. We need to grow up to a bigger market share into Warsaw.

We have done a tremendous work over the last year to growth. There is still much more to be done in Warsaw.

Here we're doing very, very nice projects in great locations, and all of them are city-transforming projects. When we were last year, the biggest project in Poland was M-Park that was ongoing.

Now, you look outside the window, you will see the biggest project in Poland today, which is Towarowa. We are really doing city-transforming projects in the capital of Poland, which is unique for Archicom Echo.

The living sector with the Resi4Rent is a very, very interesting market. We continue growing in the market, we continue handing over new projects.

We are going to do the transaction in Q2 with TAG to sell off a part of the standing assets that was from last year, and now we continue growing our platform. We're going to continue starting new projects, we're going to continue leasing up the projects that we have already done, and we see both from banks and from our tenants in these projects, there is a big interest for this market, and we have only seen the beginning of the Resi4Rent market.

That is going to continue growing for many years going forward. The transaction we announced in last year in Q3 is now getting the approvals and will be closed in Q2 in 2026, which is the 18 projects that was at that time completed, and today there is many more projects being completed, which will still be managed with the same platform that we're having in place today.

On our Resi4Rent platform, we are leased around 98%, and we continue trending in the range of 98% to 99% leased, and we are increasing rents above what the inflation is on the market. We are continue seeing a strong growth.

We were the pioneers on this market, we are leading the market, and we're going to continue growing our market even after the sale that we're doing of the 18 units. We are continuing focus very, very much on this market.

As the same belief I'm having in the resi-for-sale market, I have the same belief in the Resi4Rent market. They are not competing to each other, they are complementing each other.

I think this market will be growing going forward, but there will be the same consolidation as you see on the resi-for-sale market, where the biggest players will get bigger. We went in last year into the student housing market.

We handed over two projects in Kraków, which both on VITA and on Listopada, that has been very, very successfully leased. We are now going forward this year opposite of M-Park, where you see Curtis, that is next student space building that will be open up now in September for the next semester, which is really a new project.

I was there yesterday, and it's a fantastic quality. We already have the first two rooms ready to show up to our investors, and then we're going to continue in July, August to be ready fully with the project to welcome the first students in September.

Parallel with this, we're also starting a project on Bytnara Street, and we're going to open up more in Warsaw. What's unique about our student platform is that we only do Warsaw, Kraków.

We are focusing on the two biggest markets where we see the biggest demand today, and going forward, we're going to acquire some more projects in Warsaw this year to continue growing our presence. What you see here, the difference is Archicom is doing an average of the apartment of 55 square meters, Resi4Rent is around 33, and our students are between 14 to 16 square meters.

We're addressing totally different segments of the market, and that's how we really can complement all parts of the living segment in Poland. Here you see some pictures where we're doing a lot of focus on the common areas, the amenities, and everything you will see inside the student space areas.

Here you see the pictures from Curtis Plaza, and from now, and we're already at full height. We are going to continue going in full speed ahead, and it will be a beautiful project that you will see shortly for the next presentation.

Commercial office and retail: this is a market that has been suffering for the last two to three years. We see now a strong interest in commercial segment, we see retail is coming back strongly, we sold Libero, we see also strong interest now on Galeria Młociny, we see our offices has a very, very strong interest, we sold one asset at the end of this year, we sold one asset already now in Q1, and we have already letters of intent for the coming assets to be sold.

The leasing market, we hit now 93,000 square meters of office leased last year, which comes back to where we were at the high parts of the market. What is really interesting here, if you look outside the window, we have started a high-rise, we're starting a smaller building, and all of them are we starting on speculative basis, because we see so much interest on our buildings, we see rental growth on the market, and we also going to see forward that there is not enough supply to satisfy the demand from the tenants.

The vacancy rate in Warsaw is the lowest since 2020. We're going to continue seeing it's going to get lower and lower.

What you see is in the Mokotów area, where we have acquired a lot of offices that we are now transforming into residential, there is both two things happening: there is lesser and less offices in Mokotów, which has decreased by up to 20%, and those tenants are always relocating into the city center and paying higher rents. What we're going to see here now going forward for Warsaw, we're going to see rental growth on all markets.

Also, we're going to see that tenants is not having that much options to move into new buildings of the highest quality that we are delivering. We have here in Wrocław, next to MidPoint, what we're doing a fantastic building that we're going to open up in the coming days.

We are now 60% leased in the building, and we have one tenant in the early discussions that will go up to 91% leased of the whole building. This really shows that at completion, we are up to the levels around 90%.

VITA, another project, we have signed one tenant, and now we're signing the second tenant for the remaining part of the areas. At completion, in occupancy permit in May, the buildings will be fully leased.

You see here in all these markets here as well, we have seen rental growth, we see interest from investors, we see interest from tenants. The commercial segment that many people believed was in a difficult period is now really coming back.

People coming back to the office, people are looking for quality, and also when you look at what we're doing on Towarowa, that's a unique project, and this building we're sitting today is fully leased, and there are all the tenants in the building are looking for more space. CitySpace is another part of our business that is benefiting from this trend.

As there's a lack of office, the coworking is also benefiting. This is a flexible way where you can have this overlap of the people coming into the office that will be put into the CitySpace or other coworking locations.

We have been successfully here renegotiate our leases, we are opening up new locations, we really believe in CitySpace going forward as we see the growth on the market. Galeria Młociny is now up to a level where getting it stabilized.

We think that what we put in and the tenants we're putting in there is really showing the confident in the market, where we believe this is the right way moving forward for Warsaw. From an ESG perspective, we are continuing focus on the ESG.

As ESG is the integrated part of our business, we are also taking the ESG to the next level where you see on the area where we're sitting today, where we're building a two-hectare park that we're giving back to the city. We're creating green areas on all our projects.

We're making sure that it's not only the buildings that are certified, how we run them, how we run them in the most energy-efficient area, it's also how do we give back public places to the inhabitants of all the cities where we're developing our projects. This is crucial for us in all areas, both how we run our business, but also how we run our destination projects.

Now, we look into more details of our financials. As I already mentioned, we look at Q4 of the last year as very, very successful quarter.

Obviously compared to Q4 of 2024 because of four times bigger number of handovers, revenue was substantially higher, and also we did show very strong margin of over 32% on residential sales, which was the main driver of our gross sales profit. You can see that in fair value, the gain was not material, it did not really impact the result.

You can also see, if you look at SG&A, that they were lower than in 2024. It's really on the group basis, it's the trend that we welcome, and this is done, please remember, at the time where Archicom is investing a lot in the growth, and the growth is expensive.

Of course, it's much easier to manage costs where you are stable, when your top line is stable, where your volumes are stable. It's much more difficult to do that while you're growing as rapidly as Archicom is growing.

Obviously, at that time, you need to invest a lot of marketing systems, people, and other resources. We are happy with this trend.

You can see that JV result was slightly lower in '25 than in 2024. This is driven by valuations really, and the number of projects that we complete and that was higher in '24 than in '25.

Overall, net profit for the quarter was 109 million compared to a loss of 16 a year before, and as I said, the quarter was very good, but still we want and we plan to achieve better results looking forward. If you look at our balance sheet, obviously, what you notice immediately is a very big increase of inventory, which is obviously driven by the growth of Archicom.

Again, it was already said today that inventory growth is financed in a big extent by client prepayments, which is a very efficient way of doing that. At the top of our balance sheet, you can see investment properties and properties under construction.

I just want to remind you that in that area, we have both phases of Brain Park, which one was already sold this year and the second is planned to be sold in Q2. Also, VITA and Swobodna Spot Wrocław, the projects that were described more in detail by Nicklas, that are also on our list of projects to be disposed.

We plan to continue this process so that trend of decreasing on our balance sheet the share of investment properties under construction is to continue because we will continue to have here projects in Warsaw CBD as a plan looking forward. Our JV area did not move a lot.

Moved a little bit because as we are already selling some of the assets on unit-by-unit basis that was mentioned that we are in this process, and we are quite advanced already, and the process is going to be completed this year. We are already achieving distributions from Resi4Rent, even without this large transactions, we are already getting distributions coming from the disposal of unit-by-unit of Warsaw Brewery and Kępa.

Just to remind you, the strategy on that part was driven by the fact that the pricing that we can get on unit-by-unit sales for these assets is much better than we can get in the entire transaction. If you look at our liabilities, you can notice a certain decrease of the balance sheet, and this is consistent with the fact that we are selling commercial assets, we are decreasing our liabilities, and we are paying dividend, right?

You can see a movement of equity, which is consistent with the fact that we did pay over 300 million dividend last year. You can see that financial debt, which is short-term, is slightly higher than a year ago, but this is the debt that we are going to either repay because it belongs to projects like Brain, a park, parts that are already sold or to be sold, or all that is linked to renewable lines that we will continue.

Overall, I think the trend of having less debt, obviously, is to be expected. Our net debt ratio was within the target that we used to have for many years, which was between 30% and 40%, but we are at the beginning of our debt reduction.

We did reduce that to certain extent in Q4, but we'll continue and we'll do much more in 2026. Long-term, we expect to have and we plan to have a lower net debt ratio, which is more consistent with the fact that on our balance sheet, Archicom share will be much bigger.

Obviously, residential developers typically have lower gearing than commercial developers. We will also have, on this basis, consolidated net debt ratio lower.

We look at the range of 20% to 30% and not above 30%. One look at our bond maturities: what we have here in 2026 is not a significant amount from our perspective.

50 million is already repaid, and we plan to continue repayment of this bonds in the amount of 100 million during the year. When you look at these different colors here, you see this more, I would call it green-blue, I'm not sure how to call this color, but let's call it green-blue at the bottom, and this is the area which you want to reduce.

This is a debt, this is bond debt on Echo part. The gray area at the top is Archicom debt.

We have the strategy that the Echo part, as we are selling commercial assets, that part will be reduced. As a result, also total amounts will be reduced.

We are prepared to do this, of course, on maturity or even proactively before, as our cash flow from commercial disposal allows, we'll use it partly to prepay this debt which is maturing in future years. Shortly speaking, we do not have plan to issue new debt in Echo in terms of bonds.

We have a plan to continue to reduce it. The last element, I think I already said it a few times, but I think it's good maybe to repeat it for the last time, that we did pay advance dividend at the end of 2025 in a very healthy amount.

Of course, again, as I already said a few times, it's our plan to continue to be dividend payer on the basis of both disposal of commercial assets that produce cash flow, but also the results that, looking forward will be more and more driven by Archicom, by growing number of handovers and net profit coming from that source. Thank you.

Weronika Ukleja-Sałak

Thank you, gentlemen. I think this concludes financial presentation element of our today's meeting.

Please stay here with us, but on the other hand, I would like to invite back Justyna Kawa and Waldemar Olbryk to the stage. In a minute, we'll be taking questions both live and from the audience.

I encourage you to be brave and ask us whatever you want. Thank you.

Ladies and gentlemen, please ask questions. If you want, we will walk to you with a microphone.

There is one question, please go ahead. I think whatever you prefer, Polish is good.

David Sharma

David Czarnecki, Trigon. Kicking off with the commercial segment.

Would you mind walking us through the timeline or the general idea of the project that is going to be built on the Grzybowska plot that you acquired in 4Q?

Nicklas Lindberg

On Grzybowska, we acquired a plot late last year. What we're doing now is we will demolish the building that is there today.

We will build a new office of 20,000 square meters on the plot, because we believe a lot in the office area, and we believe this is a really attractive area to continue doing it after the Warsaw Brewery. We are planning to start the new office building there early 2027.

We will complete it late '28, early '29.

David Sharma

Right, thank you. What is your general appetite towards the commercial investments, because once you're going to basically divest majority of your yield-generating projects this year outside of the Towarowa, there won't be much of an assets going forward.

The general rule of thumb or, I don't know, ballpark estimate, how many new projects are you looking to, well, basically commence following this year's investments?

Nicklas Lindberg

What we're going to do following this year, we are going to focus much more on Warsaw CBD, which has moved to Rondo Daszyńskiego, and we have acquired now, like you highlighted, on Grzybowska. We are now in the pipeline of acquiring more plots around Daszyńskiego area.

Every year, we're going to start around 50,000 square meters of office in Warsaw. If you can add a rule of thumb, it's around 50,000 per year that we're going to put to the market in Warsaw around Rondo Daszyńskiego, in this area.

We are not going to do like we did before where we have products spread all over Poland, we're going to focus much more on putting it back in Warsaw. We see that, like I said before, there's rental growth.

Rents are 20%, 30% higher than it used to be. We see investor appetite coming back to Poland.

Poland is a very attractive market where you see that the rents are high, still not as high as the surrounding markets, the yields are attractive, and also people are back in the office. You see really that there's a lot of trends pointing at Poland.

Now, when I was in Cannes two weeks ago, there's a lot of discussions, 'How can we get more investments into Poland?'

David Sharma

Right, thank you. Maybe just finishing off my commercial questions, following the regulatory approval when it comes to the Resi4Rent divestment, what is your plan going forward for Resi4Rent?

Do you look forward to, I don't know, creating another 2,000, 3,000 new units, or rather sell off the remaining part of the asset?

Nicklas Lindberg

We have now is that we have the the deal that is on the now on the approval process is that we think will be closed now in Q2, is of about 5,500 apartments. We have today with the newly completed, I think we're up to 3,200 apartments in the pipeline.

We're going to continue growing that one up to 5,000, 6,000 apartments again, and then we will analyze it again, and then we'll take a new decision going forward. As in all the rest of our businesses, we are never long-term holder forever, that is not in our business model.

We will build it up, get to 5,000, and then hopefully, we will find a new investor, and then we'll do it over again. We will continue repeating this like we do with our office sales, but in a much bigger scale.

It's very similar to what we have communicated with student space, where we're saying we're going to get up to 5,000 units, then we will divest, and then we'll start up a new student space platform.

David Sharma

Right, thank you. Maybe switching off to the residential part.

In Polish? If questions are directed to Archicom, yes, I will ask questions in Polish now.

Not so attractive, as regards construction costs, because the situation, if you observe it for some time, potential for some contractors building buildings, this may give concerns to them. Do you observe that something's going on in the budget as regards costs, or is the situation stable?

Maybe in a few quarters' time, we may feel it in the costs of construction that you will have to bear. I think that as for the costs of construction, something may change from one week to another.

We see that two weeks ago the situation was different, today is different. We have many framework agreements because we cooperate within the framework of the group, that's why many risks are secured in the mid-term, not in the long-term, and we analyze it on the current basis.

Saying that we see something really, it's too early, which doesn't mean that we don't observe the market. Our experience is that through the work in the group, we secure part of supplies by implementing contracts, if we have a kind of package from Echo and Archicom part, which doesn't mean that we don't analyze the risks in potential scenarios in business.

We have now worked out a formula of cost optimization, and I'm

Weronika Ukleja-Sałak

saying it with caution, because two weeks ago and three days ago, we would not say that. I would not give you any specifics, it's too early.

Your target 30%-40% gross margin is still in place, nothing will change? Yes, all the time, it won't change.

Despite the circumstances and the external situation,

Justyna Kawa-Rygielska

we are doing our best so that to work on the margin of the project, on revenues, and costs, so that in the future periods stay within this range, 30%-40%. Some other question about this year's plans of yours, because, yes, the targets as regards sales volume, what I'm interested is the structure that is allowing share of the popular segment, how do you define it in general, because in your perception, popular segment is not the same as for other players.

These are multi-stage maybe projects or smaller projects based on mid-market, sort of. How do you define it?

I think popular product is more available product to an average buyer who buys the first apartment. These are many-stage projects, and we've had experience in that, Archicom in Wrocław, like Awipolis.

These were the projects that we inherited and we finalized the last two, let's say, three phases. These are the projects which is crucial, are rational in terms of price, are accessible to people who buy the first apartment, but they also have some elements preserved such as Zenit project in Łódź.

Here green elements. They are popular, but they have greatly appreciated.

I've mentioned it while discussing Q3. This is the prefabricated project after slab was constructed in 11 months, got the award of the Polish Sustainable Development Chamber, because the project, which is popular, still complies with the conditions of good life.

It means that popular is such that there is a lower cost of purchase, but the quality of life is high. To sum up, this is the type of project of products which is not here in Warsaw, but Łódź, Poznań, Wrocław?

Yes, at the moment, we cannot say that we have a popular project in Warsaw, which doesn't mean that there is no capacity, no potential for that in the capital city. This is something about this year, but now maybe something about the next years and the Tricity, because you mentioned you plan to be present there.

In this year, we should understand that you would build in greenfield structures and would have a project implemented there, or you will acquire something? I think Echo has already said that as for the Tricity market, we've been thinking about this for some time, we've been considering it.

Buying some plots, some land, given the speed we are developing, it's not the scenario, which is good for us. I think if we know more about it, we will share this information with you.

We are able to execute various scenarios for entering the new market. Let me put it like that, not finalizing the sentence.

David Sharma

My question, this would be the last one from me, the situation on the land market is such that this segment is consolidating, but there is appetite for new lands, which differs among various players. In Q4, you bought some land opportunistically, but maybe just for the sake of the transaction, it was in December or November.

The question is: do you see on the market some kind of opportunities, sort of secondhand land or price struggle, or there is no free lunch there?

Justyna Kawa-Rygielska

I don't know if there has ever been free lunch, because the situation is such where the market is more difficult. You can see who, through the strength of the group, can pay by the deadline, because financial stability of the partner while buying land is important upon transaction.

I think that if someone decides to sell land to someone is due to many factors. The price is important, of course, but not only that, and for Echo, for Archicom, etc.

We are now holding many talks, which was said, and so we are closing some talks. The exceptionality of our offer is such that we have operational efficiency as regards Lex Developer.

We are not afraid of such projects, and we may buy a big plot of land, we may suggest it could be residential and other functions. We are interested in it, and finally, that means it's all more staggered in time, but the purchase is more attractive in terms of price.

Let me

Weronika Ukleja-Sałak

translate this question, because you might have something from a group point of view. Do you see any opportunities right now coming up referring to new plots, and are there any great catches, or do you see any new opportunities will be the best translation?

Nicklas Lindberg

I think we need to put everything in perspective. We buy land every year for €150 million, it's in the perspective.

We're always looking for new land plots. The biggest thing on my radar today is to look at a way how we could enter the Tricity market, which will then be in a bigger acquisition for Archicom to enter that market.

That is the highlights on my radar at the moment. Individual plots is something we do on a day-to-day basis, and we will continue buying a lot of lands going forward as well.

David Sharma

Thank you. Good morning,

Michał Krajczewski, BM BNP Paribas. I also have a question to Archicom.

My predecessor asked many questions, I will ask just two. Please extend on the phrase which was said about residential during presentation.

We think about the effectiveness of the construction process. You supplemented it by saying kind of collective purchases, but is there something else, any other optimization which is planned or maybe being implemented right now?

The second question of mine is: do you plan to increase the share of prefabrication in your projects?

Justyna Kawa-Rygielska

Operational efficiency is something that could be really described in a book. It means, for example, the way of taking decisions, access to information, making decisions on what funds are to be allocated, or how we use what people worked out in various places of our organization.

Throughout the last five years, we have integrated it not only within Archicom, our Echo Residential that was a contribution to the group. The operational efficiency means, for example, speed of reacting to what's going on on the market, or doing something in advance, or creating market opportunities, something that I've already discussed.

I can really mention some items here, the works that we have already done and what to do, what not to do, so that with the growth of business, we could have more foreseeability, in simple project management. As for prefabrication, yes, we've been thinking about it as a kind of response, first, to the construction which is more foreseeable, projects which are more standardized, which are safer, constructed faster.

We created kind of internal instruction for the whole process, not just value the prefabrication, but how to do it, how to build, how to communicate such projects. We successfully implemented historic project in Archicom, in Poznań, Wrocław, and in Łódź now, and we have a group of people who can do it at each stage of investment project, including sales and later on maintenance.

That's how we would continue to do it. What's more, this is a technology that successfully implements against great budgetary and time constraints in such as student housing.

For example, 29th of November, we had a non-movable deadline and it happens with this technology. You can also look at Warsaw next to Galeria Mokotów.

There's actually construction underway. You can see it because it's still being built.

You can see what is prefabricated, what isn't. Nothing is hidden there.

That's very good quality. Even the quality of detail.

Prefabricate, certainly, in student housing are desired, because usually, unlike residential projects, these projects must absolutely be completed for a certain deadline, right? Usually the construction periods are very short, it's less than a year, that we can use to build student accommodation.

Another important component is the fact that they are repeatable. There's a lot of efficiency that can be found in this repeatability.

The rooms, the layouts are identical, right? A lot of these components, these elements can be prefabricated in such a way to maximize efficiency and cost-effectiveness.

We are looking to increase the share. We're not quite yet at this point where Sweden is, where prefabricates are inserted, even toilets, bathrooms are just prefabricated and inserted and ready-made.

We're not quite there yet. It's not yet profitable for us, but definitely the share of prefabricates will be increasing due to labor costs, quite simply.

Thank you very much.

Michał Stopka

Michał Stopka. For prefabrication, could you elaborate what are the pros and cons vis-à-vis traditional technology, also from the point of view of cost-effectiveness?

What does that look like? The second question is related to you said you were talking with potential suppliers.

What is the market looking like? Are there many potential suppliers?

Is there competition? Can you choose between offers?

What's the situation like?

Waldemar Olbryk

Let me start with the market. The market is local because prefabrication is highly linked to transportation costs, our locations were linked to factory availability and availabilities of office that prepared designs.

Prefabrication needs to be started a lot prior to construction. And 80% that's not visible actually results in producing Lego blocks for adults, really.

This is what Maciej has just said. Not far from here in Mokotów, we have a building that's being built.

Are they being produced in Poland? Yes, they are.

Are there modern production parks? Yes, there are

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modern ones, indeed.

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I can even

Waldemar Olbryk

say that some

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of them are so modern because they are used to catering for very mature Scandinavian market. Taking advantage of this proximity and being courageous enough to go beyond the standards, we have organized it all.

We look at the plot, we see whether prefabricates could be an idea. We have been cooperating since the very beginning with our suppliers to make sure that we also optimize the cost to make sure that the project complies with all the requirements and the margin that we care about.

If this weren't profitable from the point of view of costs, speed, effectiveness, sales, margin, etc., well, we wouldn't be doing it. There's a group of customers that definitely wants to have prefabricated flats.

We wouldn't be doing it otherwise, especially with such repeatable projects such as commercial projects. I don't want to wear a lawyer's hat in responding to this question.

There's a number of things that mean that we are speaking more about the predictability and the time of completion rather than just costs. Apparently in Germany, where remuneration is higher, this form is not very well-developed compared to Scandinavia.

The question is: why not, if everything's more expensive in Germany? I'm not a specialist on the German market.

Let me go back to margin. We're seeing results in terms of the pace, the margin, and the overall P&L, we are going to do more of these.

Definitely savings in terms of time, the management of the project and the construction costs. Construction costs actually directly are quite similar to other types, but we see advantages elsewhere.

What is the reaction of clients? The whole communication effort when I was part of Echo's management board, we had a project in Poznań.

It turned out that clients had not such huge objections as we speaking about it. Prefabricates are a reference point for a certain generation, who I'm looking at the mirror here, but this is clean, predictable, fast, and technologically advanced enough to make sure that we have the slab concrete already painted with the window and QR code tells us where to insert it.

It's a highly specialized team that puts the blocks together, they can observe what it will look like. I will ask you about the first quarter, what it looks like from your point of view without the facts, figures, but how do you see this, whether March is different than January and February after the global events?

Are you asking about residential or just Archicom? Archicom.

The first period of this year is definitely shaking off the record-high sales of Quarter 4. Also in popular sectors, we can see that the outlook is optimistic.

Now for handovers, we want to approach what was planned, actually, and the big lesson of Q4 is that to make sure that the result is as close as possible to the budget.

Waldemar Olbryk

We don't want to give the figures out just yet, but you can do the math based on the fact that we have been given the occupancy permit for Flow 2, for Meridians in Poznań. We are successfully handing over these projects here in Q1.

Now customer behavior,

are there any

Waldemar Olbryk

changes in March? Do people want

to buy now because they are predicting a growth in prices, or is there any caution, or are there no changes at all? March for sure is an important month, because what Waldek has mentioned, in January, I think we were taking a break, both us and the customers, after a very intense Q4 in December.

In February and March there was some holiday time, so, in fact, the sales is stronger in March. We can see definitely more interest in mortgage customers.

This has been linked so far with lowering of interest rates, but still the ball's in the game, we don't want to at this point rush to any conclusions regarding Q1. It has not yet been closed.

Land acquisitions in 2026, are you planning higher expenditure than 2025?

Waldemar Olbryk

This is not simple, because the acquisition is not a simple process. The payment has to be sometimes done in advance, sometimes we have delays.

That proportionately does not really happen proportionately. Our plan for 2026 is 600-700 million for land acquisition.

Thank you.

Weronika Ukleja-Sałak

Any further questions from the audience? Let me use this opportunity and address a question that our viewers have asked.

People would like to get into more details, because I know that you already mentioned during your presentation, what are the plans for asset sales in 2026? There was a slide where Maciej showed exactly what the plans were on that.

I can because we have two questions about it, but the other one is getting into more details: when are we going to sell Galeria Młociny?

Nicklas Lindberg

That was not on the list of the assets planned for sale this year. To answer that question, we are still stabilizing Galeria Młociny,

Weronika Ukleja-Sałak

we've

Nicklas Lindberg

seen upwards trend, we see a big appetite for retail, we've seen big transactions happening in 2025 of many centers. With 2026, we see a continuous big interest for investors to invest in assets like Galeria Młociny.

All our assets that are stabilized and have hit the returns that we are expecting, of course, we will then entertain any approaches on to sell off those assets. Galeria Młociny is not really there yet, but it's on the way up, and we see a positive trend.

We will continue analyzing it over the year.

Weronika Ukleja-Sałak

Thank you. Can you give a quick update on the sale of units in Warsaw Brewery and Kępa Mieszczańska from the Resi4Rent projects?

Nicklas Lindberg

In Kępa, we are fully sold, by the end of this month, we have sold off everything that we have on Kępa, and on Brewery, we have sold 310 out of 450, and by the end of June, July, we will have sold off the remaining assets. There's a big appetite for this one.

Like Maciej said before, this is totally a yield play for us. We get so much more returns of selling them as individual assets, where we get totally different pricing, which means we can distribute much more money to our shareholders.

Weronika Ukleja-Sałak

Thank you. I have a lot of questions about dividend payout, but I think that we covered it already in two slides.

There is one question regarding Kabaty and our next plans regarding Lex Developer.

Nicklas Lindberg

On Kabaty, we already have the Lex Developer. Yes, but

Weronika Ukleja-Sałak

what's the pipeline for the next projects?

Nicklas Lindberg

The pipeline is we have continuous two more assets in Mokotów where we have on Postępu, and we have also on the next phase of M-Park that we can continue developing going forward. We also have very great projects that we're having in Wrocław with the Old West 4 that's going to be a fantastic project.

We have in Poznań the Tesco or the Kaufland in Poznań today that's going to be converted into residential. We have Kaufland in Kapelanka in Kraków that's going to be converted into residential.

All of them are what we call destination projects. This is really a project that's going to transform the cities.

If it's not going to be Lex Developer, it's going to be the new general plan and the CPI. Here we see for us going forward, this is an integrated part of our business.

We're going to continue growing that part of business, and this is the strength of Archicom compared to the rest of the competitors, that they can do these big projects that very other few developers can.

Weronika Ukleja-Sałak

Thank you. Are there any more questions in the audience?

Because here on my list, I have questions about prefab, but Waldek already covered this topic. I think—

Nicklas Lindberg

If we're going to conclude on prefab, prefab is still a very small part of our business. It works really well when you have standardized units.

In student space is ideal, because in student space, you can only open up in September because that's when the semester is started. You have a short construction period, it's ideal.

In the resi-for-sale and also in office segment, we will use it for components that we can standardize. Parts that we cannot standardize is not beneficiary for prefab.

Today, I guess it's 10% of our business, and 90% is still constructed in the traditional way on constructing. We are working together as an Echo Group to find the most effective way of building in all our areas, and that's why you see we have a stable margin, no matter how the market around us is moving, because we can always be effective in the way that we construct our projects.

Prefab or no prefab, of course, that's part of the question. The bigger question is: how can we continue driving efficiency in all our construction process, no matter if it's prefab or traditional construction or however we're doing it?

Weronika Ukleja-Sałak

Thank you. I think I used all the questions from our site.

There's a last opportunity to have No? Thank you.

Thank you very much, and see you back at our Q&A session. Thank you so much for being present, and for asking questions.

We will see each other in May for summary of Quarter 1. Thank you very much, and goodbye.