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Q4 FY2025 · Earnings Call TranscriptMarch 19, 2026

Marco Fuchs

Good morning. Welcome to OHB's earnings call for the annual report 2025.

Like to welcome you here on behalf of OHB. We are here together, I'm here together with Tim, Tim Tecklenburg, our CFO, Daniela Schmidt, and Kurt Melching.

We're obviously ready for questions. I hope you have been able to download the materials this morning.

I will quickly walk you through the slides, and then Tim will take over for the financial part. The OHB business segment has not changed.

This is the same business segment chart that you saw in our Q3 results a couple of months ago. What has changed in the course of 2025 is that our Access to Space division has been changed because we took over 100% of MT Aerospace AG.

We created the European Spaceport Company. Of course, in this part is also the Rocket Factory Augsburg and a few smaller parts.

Quick recap of 2025: We had multiple successes in launches in 2025. The very important was on July 1st, the weather satellite MTG-S1, that's Sounder, as we called him.

The Sounder satellite has been developed by OHB completely: the payload in Oberpfaffenhofen, very sophisticated optical payload, and the satellite platform and the overall satellite in Bremen here at OHB Bremen. We're very happy with the results.

That has been a very big success. Successful launch also in August with the launch of our Earth observation satellite NAOS for the Luxembourg government.

It's a military satellite that OHB Italy developed and built for the Luxembourg military has been successfully launched. In November, we had a batch of eight satellite of Eagle-2 satellites for an Earth observation constellation called IRIDE for the Italian government.

There will be more launches, we're launching a full constellation for Italy. In December, we had another launch for Galileo first-generation satellites.

There will be two more launches on Galileo this year, we're nearing the end of the full ramp-up of the Galileo satellites of the first generation. If we look to 2025, of course, we have been able to secure a number of significant contracts.

We had a business extension. One of the big successes was the LISA science satellite that we won in a competition for European Space Agency, ESA.

It measures gravitational waves. I leave it there how this works in detail.

That's a very fundamental science mission that we believe we will hear very good news over the course. We have been able to contract with the DLR, the German space agency, the Heinrich Hertz operational contract for the operating services over the next years.

With ESA and Thales Italy, we have been able to contract our share in the Argonaut mission for the independent European lunar access program. The Argonaut is a lunar lander that Europe will build for moon exploration, and we are a core partner with Thales Italy.

In terms of business expansion, we had our growth in Sweden. We inaugurated a new factory.

By the way, yesterday, we announced the Stena contract, about €250 million. For this contract, this facility has been developed and built.

We bought a company called OHB TechniSat now, I mean OHB Vogtland now. We bought it from TechniSat, company located in Schöneck in Saxonia for the industrialization and serial production.

It will help us there. It's a small factory, but it will be helpful to ramp up production capabilities.

We created a company in the UK in Bristol, OHB Space UK. This is now in the build-up phase for actually for the assembly, integration, and test of big satellites, initially in the frame of European Space Agency science program.

Total order intake was very significant in the space system division with more than 1.5 billion. That was a big success for Markus Möller and his team, and the whole company, actually.

Here you see quick recap of the two investments that we made in Sweden and in Schöneck in Vogtland. I talked about it.

I think I can move on. I think it's part of our continuous expansion.

We are investing currently, we are building a new significant cleanroom in Italy in Torino for OHB Italy. You see growth there.

As we can say in more general, OHB Sweden and OHB Italy are massively growing and are very successful, and obviously that requires also new facilities and more space. UK, I don't have a photo of the UK here yet because it's in the course of being implemented, but that's another focus of our investment that we will see in actually, I think, starting 2026, that we will invest in a significant facility there in the Bristol region.

MT Aerospace had a very successful year 2025. We took over the remaining 30% stake in MT Aerospace, now we own it 100%.

That has been a good step, I believe. The Ariane 6 business is ramping up.

We signed recently the contract for the flight models 16 to 42, which obviously gives us security to plan over the next years the ramp-up. We do have substantial contracts also from other rocket companies in the US and elsewhere, and we have significant growth with regard to our military programs where MT Aerospace has a significant role also in military.

The digital activities, just summarized in one slide: We had a good order intake last year, €250 million for our OHB Digital. I guess this is a business that was not very much in the highlight of the public attention, but it's a solid growth and a solid deliveries, mainly in what we call Midstream, the antenna business, the ground segment operations, but also in the geospatial area where the commercial data resale is growing as well.

Last week, OHB celebrated its 25th anniversary of the listing. We had the IPO completed on March 13, 2001.

We went public at the so-called Neuer Markt. Since then, we are one of the few remaining successful companies listed previously at Neuer Markt.

If you just look at the numbers, that at that time the revenue was €15 million, 1-5, with about or with 125 people. Now, 20 years 25 years later, it was €1.2 billion with about 3,800 people.

You see that we had a very busy 25 years. Actually the shareholding at that point in time, the Fuchs family had about 70%, and now we have 65.4%.

We have been able to grow substantially, massively over 25 years without significant dilution. I mentioned it briefly yesterday.

OHB Sweden has been able to finally sign the contract for EPS-Sterner. This is a big success: 20 satellites, €250 million roughly is the volume for the development and building up of the satellites.

I can say that I'm very happy to see these constellation successes at OHB in Sweden, but also in Italy with IRIDE. We are able to succeed competitively in these markets, much smaller satellites.

The Sterner satellites are satellites in the range between 100 and 200 kilo, 150-kilo satellites. That's a very different market segment from what you see in our capability in Germany or here in Bremen, but it's a lucrative market and we can also be competitive there.

Actually also with IRIDE, in even smaller satellites, it's the 50-kilo class where we have been able to have a constellation implemented and actually, as we saw, rolled out. That's quite a big success.

A quick view of what has changed, and the development of institutional budgets is obviously one of the significant drivers of growth of the whole space industry in Europe. As a huge shift towards defense across key institutional budgets, you see that the geopolitical landscape of course creates a push for increased sovereignty across Europe.

ESA has increased its budget at the last year's ministerial conference here in Bremen by about 32%, which is a significant growth for ESA as an institution, €22.3 billion. The European Commission has even bigger growth in their planned next multiannual financial framework.

We'll see more detail, but €131 billion for defense including space is very, very significant, and space will play a significant part within this budget. Next to that, obviously, Deutsche military, Bundeswehr, has a plan implemented for €35 billion for space-based security infrastructure that has been announced by Minister Pistorius last fall.

That's a significant increase, and this is all part of the overall overarching increase in investment in NATO with the decision that was taken last year by member states to go up to 5% of GDP for defense budgets, 3.5% directly in military and 1.5% in infrastructure related to that. Basically this one chart gives the overall picture of the boom that you now see in space around Europe.

A few details on the ESA budgets. I don't want to go into detail, but the €22 billion have been broken down very, very specifically in the different lines of activity: Earth observation, navigation, space transportation.

We're playing a good role in some of these bigger parts of ESA budget. I mentioned the growth of the MFF for actually it's the MFF proposal by the Commission.

The proposal there is for the time frame 2028 to 2034 to have significant budget increases for defense and space in one budget. As you can see comparing the numbers, the current budget line for 20 for the budget 2021-2027 is €30 billion, broken down the way you see it here into EU space program and EU Defense Funding.

It was in the previous budget cycle, 2014-2020, it was €12 billion. You see a massive increase, including Defense Funding, space programs, and Horizon Europe, which is also taking care of space and defense.

We cannot obviously detail it down, but I think it's just a fundamental commitment of Europe, or actually the Commission so far, to invest. That has to go through the approval process with member states, with Parliament.

Obviously, this might change, but I think it's a significant data point. The €35 billion for security-related space infrastructure in Germany is much more detailed.

If you look to the website of the Ministry of Defence, you can see the German space military strategy, and you can see very, very detailed what Germany is planning to do. Of course, the geopolitical landscape requires in the view of the German government significant space infrastructure, significant build-up of capabilities.

A number of constellations are mentioned in this document. As we can see that this is also being implemented: satellites, of course, ground infrastructure, on-demand launch capabilities, everything is mentioned there.

You will see Germany becoming a very active and leading partner in military investment in space. I hand it over to Tim to walk us through the financials.

For the time being, thank you very much, but obviously I'm here for questions.

Tim Tecklenburg

Thank you very much, Marco. Also from my side, a warm welcome.

Really great to have you in our call. As Marco has already mentioned, from our perspective, 2025 was also from a financial year a very successful year.

We have grown. We have grown in all our segments, and I am happy to walk you through the key financials right now.

As this is one of our key metrics, I start with the order entry. We were able to kind of reach a level of €2.1 billion in 2025, contributed by all the segments.

As also Marco has shown, for instance, Space Systems with about €1.6 billion. This is a significant growth versus 2024 with a level of 23% and corresponding also in 2025 with an book-to-bill ratio of above 1.5, which is clearly a sign that we are growing.

As such, also our backlog is showing this growth. As you can see here, we have reached a level of €3.2 billion, which is an all-time high and provides us with a really comfortable outlook for the year to come.

It is also the fact that considering, and this is shown by the arrows here in the mountain chart, that after each ministerial conference, there was a time of growth in order backlog. Considering that we have already now, when the ministerial conference took place in 2025 November even Bremen here, that we are already at an all-time high provides, in addition to the information given by Marco, also positive outlook for the future.

Looking into the KPIs into a little bit more detail, especially our total revenue grew by 25% up to a level of €1.25 billion, which is significant growth and is also mirrored by the growing profitability. We were able to disclose an adjusted EBITDA of a level of €125.6 million, which is also quite above the previous year's stated adjusted EBITDA.

Also, related to that, adjusted EBIT grew to a level of €84 million, which is also an relevant increase in comparison to previous year. What's important for us to master the growth is that we also grew our employees, especially our operational colleagues, that are the engineers, technicians, that are really kind of doing the [job?]

to kind of move the growth ahead. I hear an echo.

I'm not sure who that is. It's gone.

All right. Overall, this is a very also important that we grew in employees in order to fulfill our promises to the customers.

Connected to that is also that on the support functions, we were flat, rather also shrinking. That is we are maintaining our cost controls as in the past.

Showing the development over the last years is shown that we are clearly growing. We have exceeded also the €1 billion level of 2022 with the already mentioned €1.25 billion.

We are surely aiming to continue this path with a level of about €1.4 billion in 2026. That's the same development we want also to continue with the profitability.

You see on the adjusted EBITDA and EBIT, we are clearly growing, and also we expect that we also grow in to a level of about €150 million give or take in 2026, which is corresponding to a level of 11% margin. This growth is also nourished by our order intake.

We see and expect also growth here, and this is kind of based on the funds that were shown by Marco before. On the right-hand side, you can see that there are opportunities in basically every segment in our portfolio, and the different product categories, be it Earth observation, SatCom, and also in the launcher areas, as we see that also in 2025, as also already disclosed, our colleagues from the aerostructure area where we kind of manufacture components for the Ariane 6 launch vehicle are growing significantly and also internationally.

Overall, we see that we had a very successful year 2025, and for sure it's also our ambition to continue this path. As such, I'd like to show you some highlights from our financial calendar: today, our full year 2025 results call, then we continue our calendar with some conferences, but also then especially with the disclosure of our Q1 figures, and then in June, the General Assembly.

With that, I'm closing the presentation. Thank you very much for your attendance once again.

Thank you very much for following in 2025, and we are looking forward to continue our discussions with you right now with the Q&A section, but also throughout 2026. Thank you for your support.

Marcel Dietz

Yes, thank you Tim. I would like to open the floor for questions.

Please raise your hand if you have any, and then I will add you as a panelist. First one is Simon Keller from NuWays.

Simon, can you hear us? Simon?

You should be able to talk. I think you have to unmute now.

Simon F. Keller

Hi everyone. Can you hear me?

Marcel Dietz

Hi. Yes, we can hear you.

Simon F. Keller

Awesome. To start my question list, can you share any details on the SATCOMBw Stage 4 tender?

Would it be fair to assume that you capture 1/3 of the project?

Marco Fuchs

Thank you for the question. Maybe we answer them one by one.

As on this program, we have released to ad hoc news in late January and in early March, where we give a statement to the status of this procurement process. Other than that, we are not in a position to comment on any details.

We have obviously also seen media reports in the past weeks about it, and we have had many questions on it also from media. Beyond our ad hoc statements, we are not in a position to comment on any details.

This is why also speculating about potential share volumes is much too early from our side, and so we unfortunately cannot go into any details of that question.

Simon F. Keller

Understood. Two financial questions.

Firstly, on personnel costs in Q4, they have been noticeably low. What was the reason for it, and what personal cost run rate should we assume into '26?

Also on transformation costs in '26, do you expect any, and if so, at what level? Then I hop back into the queue.

Thank you.

Tim Tecklenburg

Yes, thank you. Thank you very much.

With regard to personal expenses, there, on the one hand, we weren't kind of getting all the colleagues on board as we would have expected. Overall, this was in line with the previous quarters.

What you noticed correctly is that we had, as one incident in 2024 with one project. In course of 2025, we had been able to kind of made good progress on kind of dealing with the incident.

As such, it was the case that we on the one hand here utilized the provisions that we built in 2024 for the course of 2025, which were mostly personal costs. Then in addition to that, we also kind of adjusted for this project with regard to all the expectations, and as such, this was also kind of by means of utilizing the provision and on the other hand reducing the personal expenses accordingly.

That which is then a wash, that is without any impacts on the results. To answer your second part of your question with regard to the projection, we see that this should be in line with the previous quarter, so that is we will kind of continue the way it was in 2025 in the first quarters.

Then with the second question on transformation costs, I think that in the last year we did made really good progress in our so-called Up2Speed program, which is a transition program which we launched. Those kind of transformation costs were associated with those aspects.

We will continue in 2026 with the transformation, cost control, other project efficiency measures, but we don't expect, as of now, a level of the same magnitude as 2025, but we will see how this will play out then in 2026.

Simon F. Keller

One quick follow-up question then, because you mentioned now this provision for the SARah project, I assume. Can you share how much of this provision has been released in '25, and is it all completely released, do you still have something in your books, and do you expect something in '26 to be released as well?

Tim Tecklenburg

Yes, thank you very much. With regard to SARah, we have two component which we kind of utilized in 2025.

This is on the one hand, the costs that were immediately associated with that, and then also the adoption. Based on that, we are having in our books still a provision remaining level of about €9 million.

We expect that in 2026, we also continue to really kind of finalize it, and so we'll utilize it most probably, but this is to be seen.

Simon F. Keller

Thank you.

Tim Tecklenburg

Thank you for your question.

Marcel Dietz

I can see no further raised hands, maybe I just hand over to Marco for some closing remarks.

Marco Fuchs

Thank you very much. Obviously, you have further time to think about it if more questions are coming.

I believe we will put this call online in the next hours or days or whatever. Obviously, should you have more questions, you can directly contact us at the Vorstand, but also, of course, Marcel for this.

I guess from my side, I can only say thank you very much for your attention and to OHB. My side, I can only look here, if you see at the Vorstand, this is today actually, I think, Kurt, your last appearance at the earning calls, and I would like to thank Kurt for his, I think, 37 and a half year work at OHB, and obviously for the last whatever 10 years or so here at the Vorstand.

From my side, a big thank you. Again, I think by the end of the month Kurt will retire.

He will be staying close to OHB, but in terms of investor contacts directly, this is the final event we have together.

Kurt Melching

...last years for the support from your side, and from my side it's everything okay. Now it's time to leave, to go into retirement and after really successful and good years here at OHB.

Marco Fuchs

Thank you. I guess that's now the moment to close the call.

Marcel is nodding, there have not been further calls or questions coming. Again, thank you, and have a good day, and again, we very much appreciate your interest in OHB.

Bye-bye.

Marcel Dietz

Thank you very much.