Operator
Welcome to the HEXPOL Q2 presentation. [Operator Instructions].
Now I will hand the conference over to the Deputy CEO and CFO, Peter Rosen. Please go ahead.
Operator
Peter Rosén
Thank you, everyone, and thank you for listening into our Q2 presentation. For today, I'll take you through the overall business performance in the quarter, then go into each business area in a little bit more detail.
I'll take you through the financials, and then we summarize and wrap up with a Q&A session. But let's start on group level.
As you've seen, it's a quarter where we delivered strong organic sales growth. But when we look at the overall picture of the markets where we operate, there is not much change since the beginning of the year.
Generally speaking, we still see fairly high levels of uncertainty and a wait-and-see mentality with a lot of customers and in the markets. From a geographical point of view, it's also similar to the beginning of the year with higher uncertainty in North America compared to Europe that is somewhat more stable compared to last year.
The uncertainty that we felt in the beginning of the year has, to a certain extent, intensified during the second quarter following on the Middle East situation, not least with the impact on volatile raw material prices, and I will come back to this in a little bit more detail later on. That being said, when we look at our own performance during the quarter, we see improvements in both of our largest business area, Rubber Compounding and Thermoplastic Compounding, while Engineered Products delivers a stable result.
Our focus on maintaining and increasing our market share has been successful here in the quarter, and we see volume growth to our largest end customer segments, such as wire and cable, general industry and building and construction. Volume to the automotive end customer segment saw some growth on group level.
So all in all, we delivered 8% organic growth, mainly driven by higher volumes. And it's especially positive to see double-digit organic growth of 12% with Thermoplastic Compounding, which is a clear growth area for us.
During the quarter, we have also had to deal with increasing raw material prices, which we compensated for through price increases in both Europe and North America. So when we look at the overall Q2 performance, despite some continued negative FX effects, we delivered SEK 5.3 billion in sales, which is up 6% compared to the same period last year and improved adjusted EBIT at SEK 772 million, and consequently also higher adjusted EPS in the quarter.
If we then go into the business areas, and we start with Rubber Compounding, on the markets where we operate, total volumes are still at historically low levels affected by the generally lower customer demand that we see. We also see the captive volumes being at higher levels, although we believe these volumes have peaked.
When we look at our own performance in this area, we see that the work regarding protecting and also improving market share has been successful. And we've also been able to retain some captive volumes, not least in North America.
And this has resulted in higher volumes for our larger end customer segments such as general industry, wire and cable, building and construction. Automotive volumes are stable in the quarter for Rubber Compounding.
The situation in the Middle East has created imbalances in the supply chain and also volatile raw material prices. This has certainly been a challenge during the last few months, but the HEXPOL organization has handled these challenges very well and managed both supply of raw materials and implemented price increases when needed.
So all in all, we achieved 7% organic growth in the quarter, and this is mainly driven by higher volumes. If we go into and look at Thermoplastic Compounding, delivered a very strong quarter.
During the quarter, we see positive ramp-up effects from previously won projects as well as volumes from new projects being started. And some of these projects are driven by end customers requiring higher levels of recycled content in products that we can deliver, which is positive for us.
As with Rubber Compounding, Thermoplastic Compounding has been impacted by the Middle East situation when it comes to availability of raw materials and fluctuating raw material prices. Subsequently, price increases have been implemented also for Thermoplastic Compounding to compensate for higher raw material prices.
And as I mentioned before, we delivered high organic growth of 12% in the quarter, and this is also mostly driven by higher volumes. And if we then look at Engineered Products, we saw somewhat lower sales in the quarter, and this is primarily related to a couple of specific customers in Sweden.
Last year, we saw record level sales and demand has been somewhat lower here in the first half of the year, but we do not see any major changes in the underlying market. And we still deliver high profitability in the quarter.
I will come back to this in more detail later on. If we then go over and look at the financial overview for the quarter, we delivered sales of SEK 5.3 billion with an adjusted EBIT of just above SEK 770 million with a margin of 14.6%.
The reason why we use adjusted EBIT stems from that we report the costs associated with the termination of the previous CEO as nonrecurring items. The cash flow in the quarter is somewhat below EBIT, but still solid at about SEK 680 million.
We do see some negative impact from the Middle East situation on inventory levels, and I will come back to this in a little bit more detail later on. Net debt-to-EBITDA ratio at the end of the quarter at 1.17 and below what we had last year in the second quarter.
And if we then look at how this compares to Q2 last year, sales are up 6%, partly offset by negative FX effects. And in fixed currency rates, sales are up 9%.
And despite about SEK 20 million in negative FX effects, EBIT increased to SEK 772 million. EBIT margin for the quarter at 14.6%, which is down 50 basis points compared to last year, and this is affected by the relative increase in OpEx driven by increased IT investments, but also cost for more people resources needed to support growth going forward.
Looking at sales in a little bit more detail for the group. As mentioned, fixed currency sales are up 9%, out of which 8% is organic growth.
While acquisitions, which is Kabkom, add another 1% in the quarter. And the organic sales increase is primarily driven by higher volumes.
From a geographical perspective, North America showed 3% growth, but in fixed currency, the growth was 7%, while Europe delivered 10% growth or 11% in fixed currency. Asia was in line with last year levels.
If we take a look at the development of EBIT. So despite the somewhat SEK 21 million in negative FX effect, adjusted EBIT increased to SEK 772 million.
So at fixed rates, the increase was 5% in EBIT. If we then look at the drivers impacting EBIT compared to last year, the main driver is obviously the higher sales while the gross margin was on the same level as last year.
And as I mentioned, we see an increase in OpEx, and this is primarily driven by higher IT-related costs and investments in people resources to drive growth. If we then go into a little bit more detail for the 3 business areas, starting with Rubber Compounding, it delivered sales of SEK 3.6 billion in the quarter, up 5% compared to last year or at fixed currency rate, the growth was 8%, of which organic growth was 7%.
The high organic growth is driven by the higher volumes and acquiring Kabkom adds 1% in sales in the quarter. The higher volumes are seen both in North America and in Europe.
And from an end customer perspective, we see growth with wire and cable, building and construction and general industry and automotive sales were stable in the quarter. EBIT is negatively impacted by negative FX effects of SEK 20 million or 3%, but came in at SEK 546 million with a margin of 15.2% in the quarter.
We then move over to Thermoplastic, delivered sales of SEK 1.3 billion in the quarter, up 9% compared to last year or at fixed rates, the growth was 12%, all of which is organic growth. Main part of this volume is driven by — it's volume driven, but there are also some positive price/mix effects in here.
As with Rubber Compounding, the organic sales development was positively affected by volumes, higher volumes to most end customer segments, not least building and construction and general industry, but also automotive and medical saw growth. The drivers of the growth are increased volumes on existing business, but also ramp-up of projects that were agreed with customers before this quarter and now start to deliver volumes during the quarter.
Following on the higher sales, we saw a strong improvement in EBIT that increased 40% to SEK 155 million. And at the same time, we saw strong improvement in the EBIT margin, which increased 280 basis points to 11.9% in the quarter.
And then if we take a look at Engineered Products, we saw sales of SEK 386 million here in the quarter, which is below last year, SEK 402 million. And the decrease is primarily driven by somewhat lower demand from a couple of customers in Sweden.
But as I mentioned before, this should be seen in light of record sales in the same period last year. A lower EBIT follow on the lower sales, but still high margins in line with last year, above 18%.
If we then leave the P&L and look at working capital, it is slightly higher than same period last year. This is driven by higher inventory, and this is what I referred to in the beginning.
This is affected by the situation in the Middle East. In some cases, we've increased our inventory levels to ensure that we have access to the material that we need to produce.
Also the higher raw material prices impact negatively. Depending on how the situation evolves going forward when it comes to raw material prices, we view this as temporary as we turn our inventory quite quickly during the year.
There is no change in any underlying payment terms to customers and/or suppliers. If we then look at the cash flow, we delivered a solid cash flow of below SEK 700 million, where depreciation and investments are balanced while the working capital is, as I mentioned, affected negatively by the inventory in the quarter.
And then to finalize the financial view, we closed the quarter with a net debt of SEK 3.8 billion and a net debt-to-EBITDA ratio of 1.17, below last year. And all in all, we continue here at the end of second quarter to stand with a very strong financial position.
And then if I can summarize the second quarter, it's a very strong quarter with high organic growth of 8%. The growth we see with both of our largest business areas.
In the quarter, we worked intensively to protect and grow our market shares, and we have also been able to win some captive volumes that has contributed to this growth. At the same time, it is a quarter impacted by the Middle East, which has resulted in supply challenges and higher raw materials.
I think we've handled these challenges very well. We've been able to secure raw materials needed for us and we've implemented price increases when necessary.
So all in all, when we summarize the second quarter, we delivered high sales and higher results, which we are quite proud of. And with that, I thank you for listening, and I hand over to Q&A.
Peter Rosén
Operator
The next question comes from Henric Hintze from ABG Sundal Collier.
Operator
Henric Hintze
Peter, this is Henric. Yes.
So first, I was just wondering a bit about the sequential/price mix improvement you talked about. Is that sort of would you say a durable customer/product mix change?
Or is there anything about the sort of raw material price swings driving this?
Henric Hintze
Peter Rosén
Henric, when we talk about the sequential price/mix improvement, it's primarily price increases that have been implemented. There is some positive mix, but it's primarily price.
Peter Rosén
Henric Hintze
Yes. And I mean, specifically in thermoplastics, where the margin was up quite a bit.
How come that differed from rubber?
Henric Hintze
Peter Rosén
Three — well, two things that are similar and third one, which is a little bit more Thermoplastic specific. We've implemented price increases in Thermoplastics as well to compensate for the raw material price increases.
We have a little bit of positive mix effects, but also since we have seen higher volumes, they also cover more of the indirect fixed cost in production. So you also get some leverage when volumes go up.
Peter Rosén
Henric Hintze
Okay. And on that, maybe we saw OpEx come up quite a bit here.
And you mentioned some things driving that. But would you say this is sort of the new base level?
Or is it coming up more from here?
Henric Hintze
Peter Rosén
I don't see that we will increase much from this level, but we do have the increase, which is, as I mentioned, is primarily IT and staffing. But yes, I don't expect that we will increase from here.
Peter Rosén
Henric Hintze
Okay. And then just finally, how come automotive volumes are flat in rubber, but up in thermoplastics?
Henric Hintze
Peter Rosén
No specific reason more than when we see thermoplastic, they have initiated more new products related to product launches. And those product — I mean, automotive car models being launched where we've had higher volumes in the thermoplastic and that has had a bigger impact on Thermoplastic Compounding than Rubber Compounding.
Peter Rosén
Operator
The next question comes from Jakob Marken from SEB.
Operator
Jakob Marken
Peter, just a follow-up on the OpEx part. Can you provide some more detail.
Is there any specific segments, geographies, business areas that you are investing in or seeing something special that we — that the OpEx growth is related to?
Jakob Marken
Peter Rosén
Yes and no. When we look at investment in people resources to facilitate growth, we have that across the business, I would say.
Then some of those resources may differ from market or company or geography depending on their needs, but it's primarily salespeople and R&D resources. And when it comes to IT, we see a general uptick where we need to do.
And then over time, that will be changed from a geographic point of view. Currently, it's more in the North America, and then we will see that coming down and see more investments in other areas.
Peter Rosén
Jakob Marken
Okay. That's helpful.
And then just a question on the M&A side. It seems like the rhetoric in the report is rather similar to Q1.
But have you seen any shift in the sort of M&A market or parties are willing to sell or anything on the M&A market that you can update us on?
Jakob Marken
Peter Rosén
I would say that the M&A market is quite similar to what we saw in the first quarter. And then we have discussions ongoing that we are intensifying.
Peter Rosén
Operator
The next question comes from Agnieszka Vilela from Nordea.
Operator
Agnieszka Vilela
Peter, maybe starting with pricing. Could you help us and tell us how much did you increase prices year-on-year?
Or what the impact was year-on-year in Q2? And given the volatility in the material prices, what should we expect in the coming quarters?
Agnieszka Vilela
Peter Rosén
Thank you, Agnieszka. If I take your second question first, the simple answer is we are uncertain.
During the second quarter, we saw raw material prices coming up. The forecast is that raw material prices should come down some going forward.
But I have to admit, it changes almost daily on the exact development of the raw material prices depending on what happens in the Middle East. But the general forecast, and I can't say when it happens, is that raw material prices should come down.
But difficult to answer, whether it happens tomorrow or a month from now, it depends on how it develops in the Middle East. Then if I take your first question regarding how much price increases have been implemented, I would say they are in the mid — low mid single-digit growth.
Peter Rosén
Agnieszka Vilela
Yes. Perfect.
But just maybe a follow-up on the kind of outlook for your pricing into Q3, isn't there a lag that means that you already kind of know what you are implementing for Q3? And if so, is this kind of pricing element improving?
Agnieszka Vilela
Peter Rosén
I mean when we go to customers with price changes, that is when we know a little bit more how raw material prices will develop. So we cannot and we will not go with daily fluctuations.
So we will need to see a little bit more, have a little bit more time to see how raw material prices develop and then we will implement changes. So there is always a certain lag, if you call it that.
We will need to see how raw material prices develop before we can go with the price changes.
Peter Rosén
Agnieszka Vilela
Understood. And then maybe on volumes for the group, in general, I mean, it was the second quarter with volume growth for you sequentially or consecutive.
What momentum do you see so far in Q3? Will this growth even accelerate?
And then maybe a kind of follow-up to that. You've seen some captive volumes returning to your business.
Can you tell us what upside do you see to your sales if these captive volumes return to more normalized level?
Agnieszka Vilela
Peter Rosén
Yes. We don't give forecast or guidance on future performance.
So I will shy away from commenting on Q3. When it comes to captive volumes, it's very much a question of if we can get customers to produce for them and deliver both service and quality time at a price, then we should be able to continue or grow captive volumes.
But it's still a bit early days. So we will wait and see and come back to it in Q3 when we know how we perform.
Peter Rosén
Agnieszka Vilela
And can you tell us how much of a kind of headwind it was for you in the, say, past 2, 3 years for your growth?
Agnieszka Vilela
Peter Rosén
Sorry, I didn't hear you.
Peter Rosén
Agnieszka Vilela
Yes. If you could tell us how much kind of a headwind the more in-sourcing by customers was for your growth in the past 2, 3 years?
Agnieszka Vilela
Peter Rosén
Depends on when you have the starting point, but it has been significant, let's put it that way.
Peter Rosén
Agnieszka Vilela
Yes. And then the last for me on thermoplastics.
I noticed that you had very strong growth in Europe and at least reported numbers, plus 20% year-on-year. Anything out of ordinary driving it?
Or it's just the fact that they are performing very well right now?
Agnieszka Vilela
Peter Rosén
Performing very well, and it's related to when customer-specific projects are started and start to generate volume as well.
Peter Rosén
Operator
The next question comes from Carl Deijenberg from Carnegie.
Operator
Carl Deijenberg
Peter, could I ask first, I was maybe a little bit surprised on the statement on Slide 3. I mean I appreciate the comments on the sequential price improvement.
But why are not prices higher year-on-year? I think you're stating here that they're on a similar level.
Yes, what are the dynamics behind that? I thought it was definitely going to be higher year-on-year as well.
Carl Deijenberg
Peter Rosén
No. If we go back 1 year, at the end of first quarter last year, we started to see raw material prices and subsequently, sales prices going down as well.
In second quarter of last year, that's where we had a fairly big impact on lower sales prices. And those sales prices we had for the rest of last year as well.
And when we see where we stand today and we see the price increases that have been implemented, we've basically come back to where we were a year ago. There is some mix effect in it as well.
But when we look at prices, that's what we've seen.
Peter Rosén
Carl Deijenberg
Okay, okay. And could I ask also, I mean, I guess the volume development that you're talking about is quite surprisingly positive here.
And when I read the wording, I mean the markets that you are sourcing that is performing well like wire and cables and so forth, I think you had a similar communication in the last couple of quarters. So is there anything specifically driving this change here in Q2?
Do you see any competition suffering more from the situation in the Middle East? Or is it just a general uptick in those overall end markets?
Carl Deijenberg
Peter Rosén
I think it's a combination of a couple of things. When we look at general industry and wire and cable in the segments where we have products, we've seen increased demand.
But we — it's our view that we have also been able to take market share in some of these segments with existing customers, also been able to add a little bit to that. So we've seen increase in those segments.
Peter Rosén
Carl Deijenberg
Okay. And those market share gains, is that due to your supply chain and purchasing organization and so forth being more, let's say, proactive or what we want to call it, relative competition?
Is that the main explanation as you see it?
Carl Deijenberg
Peter Rosén
I would say depending a little bit where we look, but I think even more customer focus has given some of this volume. And we also know that in some cases, we've had — some of this volume is because also some competitors have difficulty in managing raw materials and deliveries and supplies.
Peter Rosén
Carl Deijenberg
And in the scenario where, let's say, prices would come down again or, let's say, normalize, would you believe that these market share gains are structural? Or would it even out again then in your view?
Carl Deijenberg
Peter Rosén
I don't see a direct correlation with the prices and market shares. But if raw material prices go down, then we will need to adjust pricing to customers.
So that would change with raw material prices. The volumes that we have and the market share is something that, of course, we will work very focused on maintaining or if possible, improve.
Peter Rosén
Carl Deijenberg
Okay, very well. And then maybe just finally also, I know that you're not guiding on price contribution.
But if you take the sort of run rate now first couple of weeks here in Q3, what would the price contribution would be on a year-on-year basis without giving any forecast what the remainder of Q4 is going to be, but what kind of year-on-year run rate are we talking about here?
Carl Deijenberg
Peter Rosén
That's almost impossible for me to answer, especially since we see that the — currently, the forecast on raw material prices is down. So any number I will come with will probably change within a week or 2 weeks.
So I will refrain from — I will pass on that one.
Peter Rosén
Operator
The next question comes from Johan Dahl from Danske Bank.
Operator
Johan Dahl
Yes. Just on that growth you recorded in thermoplastics, Peter, you talked about sort of new projects, new customer orders there.
I was just wondering, is that sort of an incremental add to your sort of recurring business in the coming 12-month period? Or would you say rather that there's a fair bit of volatility in those projects sort of how it falls out each and every quarter?
Or is it more of a recurring net additions to the thermoplastics operations?
Johan Dahl
Peter Rosén
I would say the projects themselves are recurring in the sense that if we take a new car or a project with a production of a car, if we get approved and awarded part of that project, then we should be able to see volumes throughout that project. So that project in itself should be fairly stable.
Then, of course, it depends very much on do we have other projects that run out or end or can we add new projects that will add incremental volume on top. So I think to answer your question, Johan, no, the projects themselves should deliver the volumes that they do currently.
But then it's up to us, of course, to add new projects and ensure that older ones are replaced by better projects.
Peter Rosén
Johan Dahl
All right. All right.
And just finally, if you could just reiterate, Peter. If we talk about the sort of how price mix has impacted your profitability year-over-year, it's been quite negative in the past here.
You talked about weak U.S., weak automotive, et cetera. And now perhaps you don't really see that negative shift there, perhaps a bit on the opposite.
Clearly, you highlight thermoplastics as being a positive driver for product mix. But is there anything else?
I mean you're still sort of more bullish on Europe versus North America and auto seems fairly flattish year-over-year? Any color you can add to that mix change?
Johan Dahl
Peter Rosén
Yes. I'll take the easy ones first.
Automotive is fairly flat if we look at it from a total perspective. And then we have a little growth on the thermoplastic side.
But automotive as — the total industry is fairly flat here in the quarter, and we expect it also for the full year. But we do see growth in some of the other areas, such as wire and cable and also general industry, we see some improvement if we're talking from an end customer perspective.
From a geographical perspective, we still think that the U.S. is more uncertain than Europe.
There is still the question of affordability and that impact on demand, not least on automotive, but it has also some other impact in other industries. While Europe, which has its challenges as well, is still more stable than North America when it comes from general demand.
Peter Rosén
Operator
The next question comes from Mats Liss from Kepler Cheuvreux.
Operator
Mats Liss
Well, coming back to organic sales there, and I guess you mentioned that you have increased inventory somewhat to secure deliveries and so on. Do you see a similar pattern among customers there?
And maybe also if they try to avoid price increases? Well, have you seen any impact of that in your organic sales improvement?
Mats Liss
Peter Rosén
To a certain extent, I think in the beginning of the quarter, if we go back to April and partly May, we did see some customers where we think they order a little bit more than they normally did — do. But our products don't lend themselves to prebuying that much since, for example, rubber probably has a shelf life of 3, 4 weeks, then it needs to be turned into components.
So even though we did see a little bit of it in the beginning of the quarter, when we look at the quarter as a total, we don't think that there is much effect of prebuying.
Peter Rosén
Mats Liss
Okay. Great.
And secondly, on thermoplastic there, well, you mentioned this market share gains you have succeeded in and on the back of customer projects. Could you say something about the second half there, short term, if you see similar trends benefiting you?
Mats Liss
Peter Rosén
Sorry, in the second half of?
Peter Rosén
Mats Liss
Yes, this year or maybe longer term also. But if you have sort of a good position in customer-related projects that sort of boosted you in the first half there or in the second quarter?
Mats Liss
Peter Rosén
Yes. And that said, I mean, our view is that we have a good position, but regarding volumes that will materialize in the second half of the year, I will pass on that because then I will get close to guidance, and we don't do that.
So currently, we're delivering on the projects that we have. We feel comfortable with the share that we have.
And then we will just need to continue to work on this focus going forward.
Peter Rosén
Mats Liss
And finally, just on Rubber Compounding there. I mean you mentioned that increased overhead costs there have affected your margin negatively.
Could you shed some more color on that one?
Mats Liss
Peter Rosén
Yes. As I mentioned, we've invested in more people resources, not least on the sales side, also on the R&D side, where we've made some changes and centralized some R&D, for example, here in Europe.
And then we invest more in IT, both to replace existing systems, but also invest in more efficient systems going forward. So it's a combination of those things.
Peter Rosén
Mats Liss
Great. And finally, I mean, you mentioned you have, well, pretty good financial position now and the M&A opportunities.
Could you say something about those? I know you are in the changeover process there of management also and CEO.
Do that affect your sort of — how trigger-happy you are to make acquisitions?
Mats Liss
Peter Rosén
If I take your last question first, no, that will not impact, not more than we are very focused on actually on delivering M&A. So there will be no pause or let up in our — in us doing M&A because of this.
So we continue to work as focused on this and even more so than we have done before. We're really keen on doing this.
Peter Rosén
Operator
The next question comes from Agnieszka Vilela from Nordea.
Operator
Agnieszka Vilela
I have a follow-up on thermoplastics and profitability for that division with expansion of almost 3 percentage points year-on-year in the quarter. I note though that comparisons, I think, were a bit easier given that Q2 last year was down on margins.
But still, like could you tell us like should we expect a similar kind of improvement in profitability in the coming quarters if volumes hold up or improve? If you see this positive mix effect still, what to expect in the coming quarters?
Agnieszka Vilela
Peter Rosén
Difficult to say. But I think the current profitability level where we are now is — makes sense.
That's where we can be in the short term. Then, of course, we have said that the strategic direction of growth in thermoplastic is to move up in the, what we call, the product pyramid.
But that move where we move into more profitable segments is something that we will need M&A to drive — to be a large driver of. So we need to do more M&A in thermoplastic in order to move it up further in the product pyramid.
Peter Rosén
Operator
There are no more questions at this time. So I hand the conference back to the speakers for any closing comments.
Operator
Peter Rosén
Thank you, everyone, for listening in for our Q2 report. Thank you, and I wish you a very nice week.
Take care.