Operator
Welcome to Sdiptech Q4 2025 report presentation. For the first part of the presentation, participants will be in listen-only mode.
During the questions and answers session, participants are able to ask questions by dialing pound key 5 on their telephone keypad. Now I will hand the conference over to CEO Anders Mattsson and CFO Bengt Lejdström.
Please go ahead.
Anders Mattsson
Hello, everybody. Welcome to Sdiptech's presentation for the fourth quarter.
I'm Anders Mattsson, CEO of Sdiptech, and I will be presenting here today together with our CFO, Bengt Lejdström. A short intro to Sdiptech for any new listener on the call today: Sdiptech acquire, develop, and create a long-term home for niche companies within attractive infrastructure.
Today we consist of 31 companies in the group, and we operate in a decentralized structure, and each company is responsible for the day-to-day operations. We divide the group into four business areas, and each business area has a clear structural underlying growth trend that we see for the future.
For the full year 2025, Sdiptech as a group had 4.5 billion SEK in revenues and 968 million SEK in adjusted EBITDA and an adjusted EBITDA margin of 21.5%. These are numbers for our core operation, excluding companies that are currently being divested.
To start with, I would like to give you some highlights to the quarter. On a strategic level, we have made clear progress during the quarter with our divestments.
Today we have signed eight out of the 11 companies for completion. A short- and long-term target for return on capital employed is being implemented for each business unit.
We have done one acquisition in the quarter, which ties nicely into our growing cold chain cluster. Financially, we are satisfied with a strong organic sales growth in the quarter, showing a good demand for our products and services in the market.
I also would like to highlight a strong cash conversion of 134% in the quarter, primarily coming from reduction in working capital levels. Supply Chain & Transportation had a challenging quarter, but outlook looks strong.
Priorities going forward: many of our companies have a strong return on capital employed, but we have a number of companies where we can improve going forward. To be able to reach our growth target, we need to acquire in a higher pace, which is in the plan for 2026.
We have several companies in the group with good momentum, and we need to ensure that we are growing smart, and by smart I mean being prudent with working capital and capex to facilitate that growth going forward. I also would like to follow up on the implementation of our four key strategic pillars that we presented on our Capital Markets Day during Q4 last year.
The first one is around portfolio management. I already mentioned the progress of our divestment.
Eight out of 11 have been signed for divestment with new owners. We have achieved an enterprise value of full year 2025 EBIT times 6 for these companies, which then is in line with our expectations of the value.
We have also been more prudent on which companies to allocate capex to during our budget process for 2026, and that is also according to our updated framework on how to look at capex investment going forward. Second pillar, as we call proactive ownership: we have defined a short- and a long-term target for each company according to the DuPont framework.
We have some outliers in the group we need to focus on, but the majority of our companies have a great return on capital employed number as a base. Bengt will go through that a little bit later, but on average 62% for the year.
We have also aligned incentives towards capital efficiency in bonus plans for 2026. The third pillar is about disciplined and return-focused M&A.
One example of an action here is that we have implemented a cash flow parameter in all earn-out discussions that we have in early stages for the LOIs with each and every potential acquisition. We have also intensified local sourcing in companies.
This is not a short-term fix, and this is something that's going to be very important for us going forward to be able to increase hit rate and also efficiency in our sourcing. The fourth pillar is around clusters.
I already linked to our cold chain cluster, which is now four companies connected. Just for an example, the commercial due diligence was very efficient and straightforward, as we already had a lot of information about the market and actually even the company in the group.
In summary, glad to report a strong momentum in implementing our key strategic initiatives. However, we all know that it's not just a short fix, and we look forward to a long-term mindset shift as well for us as a group.
Then we are coming into the financial development in the quarter. We are satisfied with the net sales development in the quarter: plus 3% in total and 6% organic sales growth indicates a strong demand for our products and services in the market.
The currency effect of negative 8% is substantial, of course, and is primarily an exposure to the sterling. In the quarter, we had stable development for three out of four business areas.
We were expecting more sales from Supply Chain & Transportation, as in the year we have invested for higher volumes. For the full year, we achieved 6% sales growth and 3% organic growth.
The year started weak, but improved during the second half of the year and reach a solid growth number for the year, a trend that we foresee to continue in 2026 as well. No significant change in our geographic distribution of sales, with UK as our largest market.
Proprietary products is at the same amount as previously, with 65 oh, sorry, 67% of total sales. If we then go to adjusted EBITDA, in the quarter, adjusted EBITDA came in at 255 million SEK.
Organic growth was flat, and a large negative effect from the currency of minus 7%. The flat organic growth is primarily a result of a weak quarter in the business area Supply Chain & Transportation, with three large companies that have invested for future growth.
I will come back to that, I will give you some highlights per business area later as well. The margin of 22.4% in the quarter is strong, even though lower compared to an exceptional margin last year.
For the full year, adjusted EBITDA increased by 3% to 968 million SEK. This is an organic decline of 1%, and mainly due to the weak first half of the year.
The full-year margin of 21.5% is in line. We expect our adjusted EBITDA margin to be between 21% and 21.5%.
We need to ensure sustainable growth, and also new acquisition with potentially lower margins coming in and being part of the mix. With that said, I will now hand over to Bengt, and he will continue with more financial update.
Bengt Lejdström
Thank you, Anders. I will start then with some numbers for the full group.
What you just described, Anders, was for our core operations, but looking then on the profit levels for the full group, as you can see on the left-hand side for the full years, this year and a couple of years back, we have had a strong average growth of 24%, even though it was then slowing off in '25, where it only increased 1% compared to last year. Of that 1% was an organic decline of 4% and another negative effect from the strong Swedish currency, especially against the British pound sterling, with a minus 3% currency effect on the full year.
Then for non-comparable growth, that is the companies we have acquired effects from the one we divested was plus 8%. All in all, quite good, but of course then as Anders also said, the first half of the year was a bit sluggish.
For the quarter, for the full group, the quarter EBITDA was an organic plus-minus zero. Looking then on the return on the capital employed, as you can see on the right-hand side, we have a chart showing on one hand the actual capital employed, which has been reduced a little bit from last year, at the improvement then from 12.6% to 13.5% is mainly because of an increased EBITDA for the group.
Of course, these 13.5% is much lower than the return on capital employed in our operations, where the average for our core operations, that is excluding the goodwill and immaterial assets that we book in connection with the acquisitions, continue to be strong around the 60%. We also show the number from another popular KPI, the profit over working capital that some peers focus a lot on.
We focus more on the return on capital employed, but anyhow with has been quite steady around the 80% for a number of years, which is of course an important KPI as well and a sign on how we manage and get profit out of our working capital. Looking then at the cash and cash conversion, you can look on that to the left-hand bottom, you see the cash flow generation, Anders mentioned as well, it's a very strong for the last quarter, exceptionally strong I would say perhaps in 134%, but that was mainly due to reduced inventories and also getting the money in from our customers.
We have had that focus for some time now, and of course the activities continue to improve this even further going on, even though perhaps the cash flow generation will not be at that level consistently over time. A yellow-marked area where we have our ambitions between 70% to 90% over the different quarters to stay there in the cash flow generation and conversion.
Another important KPI is then the free cash flow, that is then not only the cash flow from our operations, but also reducing with the leasing part and any capex that we do in the quarter. For the last 12 months, that free cash flow per share have been almost 17 Swedish kronor per share, up from almost 13 a year ago.
In that chart, you also see the earnings per share, which is somewhat lower, it's around 12 kronor per share if we exclude goodwill write-downs that we did during Q3 2025. That is lower than the free cash flow, that is based on that we do some accounting when it comes to IFRS rules in connection with our acquisitions.
For example, we need to book non-cash interest rates, discount rates for our provisions for contingent considerations, and that hurts with about 1 krona and 50 öre per share. That explains to some part the gap between the free cash flow and the actual net earnings per share.
All in all, we are satisfied with the quarter from a cash flow perspective, and we'll continue to work on that. Then look at the balance sheet from a leverage perspective.
One of our financial targets are now to have the total net debt compared with the EBITDA to be below 3. For the quarter, measured then of course on a 12-month basis, it was then below, it was 2.84.
You see the trend on the left-hand side of this slide. We also have another KPI for our debt, and that's what we call the financial net debt, which is all debt, but excluding the provisions for earn-outs.
That one did also decrease to 2.12. The main reason for this is that the net debt was reduced because of cash flow coming in both from the operations and from, for example, the divestment of one of the companies that we closed then last year.
These earn-out provisions is always tricky to understand fully the impact on the leverage and so on, but you see on the right-hand side that our provisions booked as a debt has decreased over the years as a share of the total net debt. Coming from almost half or even more than half of all the debt, it's now 25% of the net debt, and that is number we expect to decrease as each and every acquisition become a smaller part of the total picture.
During this quarter, we did some write-downs of these provisions, and that means that the actual model works, that if some companies under earn-out are performing a little bit less than expected, then we don't expect to pay out the earn-outs that we have booked, we release some of that debt and that makes an income. That's not including in our adjusted EBITA numbers.
It's one-offs, and we have detailed those in the report towards the end if you want to dig into that in more detail. Right, I hand over back to Anders for the business areas.
Anders Mattsson
Yes, thank you, Bengt. We have updated the presentation, and going through a little bit more in detail this area now.
Starting with Supply Chain & Transportation, our largest business area, we had a relative poor performance in the quarter, an organic decline in adjusted EBITDA of roughly 9%. The result is mainly due to three business units: in transport refrigeration, GAH, they actually came out of a four-year earn-out and we have increased investment to ensure a stable operation going forward.
On top of this, two larger customers have throughout the year been postponing the orders, and that was unfortunately into '26 as well. The other company, our company within winter road maintenance, Hilltip, have invested in an improved factory and organization in the US to be able to serve the North American market locally.
The cost for this has affected the result, but we are convinced that this is the right thing to do as shipping in containers from Finland with finished goods is not a long-term solution for a market where we see great potential for our products for the future. Our company within port automation, Certus, has experienced projects to be postponed during the year, and we were awaiting that to happen in Q4.
Those global bigger projects, we feel it's the global uncertainty that is affecting these kind of major decisions for the larger ports in this example. However, in the business area are not long-term as we see it, and we have a positive outlook for 2026 for the business area as a group.
Within the business area, we are also happy to announce the acquisition of Stor late in the quarter, company based in the Netherlands and fits well, as I already said, into our cold chain cluster. Stor provides partition walls for refrigerated transportation.
They have a product with a very high precision, which is needed to be able to separate frozen food from chilled food, for example. The business model is interesting because the end customer, they usually don't know exactly how they would like to fit the lorry when they buy the bigger lorry.
Stor can actually come in and tailor flexible solutions depending on the needs, which also then can change over the lifetime for the lorry operator. We look forward to continue to well develop this company as part of the Sdiptech going forward.
Then we're coming into Energy & Electrification, which had a very strong quarter: net sales 281 million and adjusted EBITDA of 73 million. That's an organic sales growth of 14% and roughly the same adjusted EBITDA organic growth as well.
Also on top of that, a strong acquisition coming in in Q1 and delivering a very strong result for the year. Our return on capital employed, as you can see, is below the average in the group, and we have a few companies where we see improvement potential here, and that is primarily around inventory management.
The demand is strong for several business units in this business area. I just would like to highlight one company that has a very strong year, and that is Unipower, company from Alingsås.
They offer equipment for measuring and monitoring power quality in the networks. As we know, when renewable energy sources grow and also the network is growing itself, power quality becomes even more important to protect critical applications in a production environment, or it could actually be in a hospital, for example.
Even though we had a great 2025, we see that demand is still there and we see that's going to continue for the future. On other notice for this business area, we have the new head of the business area started in January, and it feels great to have recruited somebody that is actually based in UK for such an important segment for us, where the majority of our companies is in the UK.
If we then move to Water & Bioeconomy, they deliver a solid result in Q4, which is positive after a relative weak development in Q1 to Q3: net sales at 241 million and adjusted EBITDA at 56 million, organic sales growth 9% and adjusted EBITDA growth of roughly 5%. In the business area, we see that we have more potential, and in 2025 we decided to make a number of leadership changes to the local businesses.
We have the right products, the market is there, we have said that we need to focus on bringing in more commercial-oriented leadership in some of the units. We believe this will have a positive impact for the long-term development of the portfolio.
Then we go to the last business area, Special Safety & Security. They had a development in line with last year and kept up the high margin of 29%, organic sales growth of 1%, and organic adjusted EBITDA growth of 2%.
For the full year, Eagle Automation had a very strong year. I mentioned it the last quarter as well, but Eagle, they provides high security gates, bollards, and blockers.
Eagle's products are certified to withstand vehicle attacks, which is then a specific certification needed. End customer segments are data center and airports, for example.
The strong development has led to further needs for expanding their assembly facility in the UK. Just to tie back to our framework around where to allocate capex, this is a good example of where it makes sense to increase capex to expand the operations to get that market share that is out there for us to gain further.
Then we're moving into M&A. In the quarter, as we said, we finalized the latest acquisition of Stor, and total acquired growth landed at 50 million SEK in 2025.
For the full year, we have been more selective, which has helped us to decrease the leverage as a group as well. This is something we have been able to achieve, and we now look forward to our ambition in 2026 for M&A.
As part of our updated strategic initiatives, we will be strict on our valuation principles and prioritize cash flow, or IRR, for each investment we going into. Another action is that we would like to intensify the local sourcing throughout our existing companies as well.
With that said, we are looking forward to more acquisition in 2026. Just to give you a summary of the quarter, what we presented here today: we have had a solid financial result in the fourth quarter with many KPIs in the right direction.
Most of the business units develop a stable result in Q4 except from a few businesses in Supply Chain & Transportation, but we see for 2026. We have had a selective M&A agenda in 2025, but that's going to be a strong focus now 2026 going forward.
The strategic initiatives, we are happy that we have made good progress with those, and I'm also very glad to have a team in place now going into 2026 as well. The outlook remains positive for us as a group.
That was all from the presentation here today. I think we can open up, Bengt.
Operator
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The next question comes from Max Bacco from SEB. Please go ahead.
Max Börebäck
Thank you, and good afternoon, Anders and Bengt. Done in the quarter.
A couple of questions from my side, if that's all right. Perhaps starting then with the supply chain segment, and you mentioned during the presentation that sales, both in the quarter, but I guess for 2025 as a whole, has been impacted by some delays in project sales.
You mentioned on the slide as well on the outlook that you have seen some early signs of improvements here in 2026. Basically curious to hear more if you have already seen customers returning to those kind of orders already by now.
Anders Mattsson
Yep. We have had a lot of GAH, GAH is then of course one of our important companies in that segment.
Exactly what you said there, they were pushing out orders and they wanted to place them in 2026 instead. Order intake for early signals is looking good.
For the first half of the year, they're securing those orders. It's major decisions for many of these customers as they planning to renew a total fleet, a big, let's say, retail customer in the UK.
From that perspective, we have received some good orders for GAH. Certus is still a little bit of a hesitation of the customers.
We have not lost the projects, but major ports see issues or, let's say, hesitant to place those orders, but I can also say that we are not just sitting there, of course, waiting for those bigger orders. We are having a lot of medium and smaller orders coming in all the time.
I think that's also a way of mitigating just sitting and waiting for big orders, try to be active and develop new potential customers as well, then.
Max Börebäck
Good. Sounds promising for 2026 or perhaps the latter parts.
Then turning to the Energy & Electrification segment, very nice profitability here for the full year, some 26.4%, I think, and I guess to some extent supported by the acquisitions that have been done as of lately. Do you see this, say, 26% is that a sustainable level for that specific segment?
Anders Mattsson
Maybe Bengt, you can answer that one?
Bengt Lejdström
No, and we can perhaps look at that slide, since we're talking about the different business areas, we know what we're talking about. Energy & Electrification, as you see, it has had a development on margins going up and down together with the acquisitions.
We made a acquisition early '25 with Phase 3 coming in and doing these connectors for temporary connections with electricity. Phase 3 and IDE working close together in many projects.
As you see, it has been quite steady around 25%, 26% EBIT margin, the different business units going a bit up and down, but I would say that it could be fair to expect around that level going forward, yes.
Max Börebäck
Perfect. Then a question on the opposite side for the Water & Bioeconomy segment, some 24% margin here 2025, which is, of course, a nice level, but a bit below historical levels.
I guess that has been the segment the most impacted by the salary inflation in the UK and so on and so forth. With the price increases and actions that have been taken in the segment, and I guess some effect is still to be seen, do you see a potential to get back to those 25%, 26% profitability perhaps in one or two years?
Anders Mattsson
We have been trying to challenge a little bit the past that we cannot change existing contracts there. We trying to be a little bit more proactive with those kind of contracts, and there are some flexibility to step in and maybe make adjustments during the way.
We have seen some example of that, but still it's hurting us, as you are saying. I think it's going to be a challenge to come back up there.
We're trying, it's depending on a little bit also with inflation in salaries going into now 2026 with so many, let's say, people business in the UK. We're working hard with all the different business units here to steadily increase.
We're going to work with pricing to, as far as possible, to mitigate staying down at, let's say, lower levels, then.
Max Börebäck
Understood. Then two two final ones, quite short ones.
With the additional seven divestments signed here after Q4, eight in total then, including KSF, how much of other operations are remaining in terms of sales and EBITDA if you look at the 2025 levels, I guess, is the best?
Anders Mattsson
We reported for '25, I think, a little bit more than 50 million SEK for these companies. Our run rate is rather around the 65 for all of these, and that's at least what we base our negotiations on.
The ones we have divested are the major ones. We have three more, but they are a bit smaller, I would say that perhaps they represent around 20% of that profit going further, it's another 10, 15 million, perhaps, then, that we're looking at divesting.
Max Börebäck
Perfect. Then the final one: you mentioned it during the presentation, very nice cash flow here in the quarter, but also for the full year, both supported by net working capital, but also capex levels coming down quite notably for the full year.
Do you see more to do on, I guess, both net working capital, but also, the capex level relative to sales that we saw 2025, is that a good indication of where you intend to be going ahead as well?
Anders Mattsson
I think we have we have said that we will aim for not above 3% of sales in in capex, and we will definitely if we can below be below that in a in a specific year, that can be good, but I think we as as a example I gave you here with Eagle, we need to support with capex to be able to drive that further growth in in some of the business areas as well. Some year can be lower, but I think we need to be up there towards the 3% to be able to have a sustainable growth going forward.
On the working capital side, yes, I think we have more to do there. As I mentioned in the Energy & Electrification segment, the return on capital employed there around I think it was 49%, it's definitely more room to work on the inventory side there, just an example.
That's part of our incentive models as well for 2026 to try to bring that further down.
Max Börebäck
Perfect. That was all my questions.
Thank you very much for taking them, and well done.
Bengt Lejdström
Thank you, Max.
Anders Mattsson
Thank you.
Operator
The next question comes from Simon Jönsson from ABG Sundal Collier. Please go ahead.
Simon Jönsson
Hello, guys, and good afternoon. Thanks for taking my question.
I guess I just have maybe a few follow-ups on the cash flow. I think you made it clear what you are looking for into this year in terms of capex and improving the working capital further.
Maybe if you can just elaborate a bit more on what you have been doing more recently specifically for the units to improve their working capital. I understand that it will be part of the incentive programs or bonus programs for units going forward here, but what more specifically have you done recently, because we can see in the last two quarters or so that there has been a clear improvement in the trend.
Just wondering more specifically what you have been successful with here in recent quarters.
Anders Mattsson
I think from capex perspective is definitely now coming into 2026 as well, we have been more prudent and selective where we would like to spend the money and for what reason. We mentioned on the Capital Markets Day the framework with companies that are in a strengthen position, we need to make sure that you fix whatever you need to fix before we can accelerate growing the companies, and also that we have being selective saying that for us this is an harvest position, let's try to harvest as much as possible and investing more prudent.
That framework I think has been quite good implemented with the company now coming into 2026. On the working capital perspective, we have started, we've always talked about it, but we have intensified the discussion with the companies during the autumn that we need to improve working capital and show them example of how other companies in the group have done or how they have performed.
I think that has been, let's say, the low-hanging fruit to stepping into a more structured work, as we do it, we're looking at the DuPont framework, we see you have these kind of inventory levels, we believe you can move further down 5%, that will take you here, and making sure that we are aligned on what kind of action specifically you can do. I would say low-hanging fruit initially, and now the real work starts to really go through each and every company to make sure we are optimizing it.
Simon Jönsson
All right, makes sense. Do you know already how the bonus incentives will look like in terms of cash flow specifically?
Will it be overall cash flow, or focus on working capital, how much will that impact bonuses? Will it be different metrics or more sort of cohesive metrics like return on capital for the units or something like that?
Anders Mattsson
It's let's say, a mix. We have some companies that we feel needs to grow more, we have a revenue target for that.
We have EBIT target as usually as our most important one, or with, let's say, the highest percentage, and then we have return on capital employed or it can be working capital as a percent of revenue. That's depending on how we see what's the focus should be for the companies.
We tailor that depending on how we see the need for it, and we can also say that this company should then have 70% of the incentive based on, let's say, the capital efficiency part and only 30% on EBIT part. That's part of our, let's say, proactive model to see what we would like to incentivize from our perspective.
Simon Jönsson
All right. Thanks for that, and very good job here recently on the cash flow side specifically.
Anders Mattsson
Thank you.
Bengt Lejdström
Right, thanks, Simon.
Operator
The next question comes from Linus Allenton from Nordea. Please go ahead.
Linus Allenton
Hi, and good afternoon, Anders and Bengt, and congratulations on the report. Just some quick questions here from me.
If we continue here on the ROCE from the past question here, it improved to 13.5% from 12.6%. With the divestments and your focus on disciplined M&A, what's the realistic timeframe here to reach the 15% target here?
Is this a '26 or '27 target, I guess, when the divestments are not in the balance sheet, the ROCE will have some upside as well?
Bengt Lejdström
That's correct. We simulated that during the fall and said perhaps 1, 1.5% digits of ROCE will improve after the divestments.
Still, it's a bit complex to make a very solid forecast, but we have said that this will take perhaps a year or two to reach that 15%. Depends a bit also on how the M&As are lining up during the different quarters, since we get the balance sheet first and the profits later.
I would still say that it's not early this year, perhaps around early next year or late this year depending on how things develop, but really to go into next year for this.
Linus Allenton
All right, thanks. Just continued on the supply chain orders here, you said that they are in a good momentum.
Is this something that has kicked in now in January or at the end of last quarter? Can you see a significant improvement here or how should we see this?
Anders Mattsson
I'm not talking only about those three business units we mentioned had those problems. It's overall, it's a good momentum.
Our ELM, our company producing attachment as well, from a very good second half of the year coming into this year, and we see the same activity. JR, producing different kind of doors as well to the transportation sector, having a great year and also continue to do that.
Hilltip, we talked about the US facility. In Europe, they having a very good development.
They are expanding their product assortment and making bigger salt-spreading equipment, not only to the pickup trucks, also to the tractor and to the bigger segment, the van segment. Certus, they are growing their service level agreement base with every order they are taking.
I think from that perspective, the mix of the companies and the good development there, that's talking about the good momentum in the business area.
Linus Allenton
Oh, okay. That's clear, thanks.
Just a question here when we look at Q1: how has the weather conditions been here so far for the winter-dependent companies like Hilltip and Heatwork? Are you seeing the weather here is more favorable compared to last year?
Anders Mattsson
We've been talking a lot about that, and it's actually that what we see is that the season, the winter season, is getting shorter. In the past, it could have been that they bought something and then they see December early January they needed more to be able to go through the entire winter.
The trend is that they do not have that kind of second wave in the winter because what they bought should be enough for the winter. Now Hilltip actually said with the condition that we've had in full Europe, it's better than last year in that kind of the salt-spreading equipment.
I think also Heatwork, another company dependent on especially the temperature, has also had a good start because of the cold climate, especially in the Nordic countries. Positive effect because the feeling is it's going to be a longer period right now, at least.
Linus Allenton
Super. That was all for me.
Thanks for taking my questions.
Operator
There are no more questions at this time, I hand the conference back to the speakers for any written questions and closing comments.
Bengt Lejdström
Yes, and we have one written question so far regarding share buybacks, and the question is if we have ever considered share buybacks instead of M&A, as our stock is trading at current low levels. As always, through all the years, we have always been prioritizing to acquire companies and believe that in the long run that gives the shareholders a better return, there is no discussions going on on that theme.
That's a simple answer on that. I think that was the only written question, Bengt Lejdström (CFO): Okay.
Any final remarks?
Anders Mattsson
No, I think it's good. The message we would like to send is that, yes, we are continue to work with our strategic priorities.
We are not done, for sure not. We are working on it, we implementing it, and it's also going to be a long-term mindset shift for us as a group when we talk about the capital efficiency and everything around that.
That's important to have for us for the long term. Again, we are happy with a solid quarter ending 2025, and now we are definitely looking forward to 2026.
It's going to be exciting for the group to enter into this new year as well. With that, I think thank you, everybody, for listening, and good questions as well.
Bengt Lejdström
Thank you.
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