Operator
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Lena Schattauer
Good morning, and welcome to this presentation following the publication of our interim report for the first quarter 2026. Billerud's President and CEO, Ivar Vatne, and our CFO, Andrei Krés, will present, and after that, we will open up for questions.
By that, I would like to hand over to Ivar.
Ivar Vatne
Thank you, Lena, and good morning, everyone. Thank you all for listening in to our comments this Tuesday morning.
It's been another quarter with twists and turns, and yet again, some unexpected events to navigate through. The heading on the slide is our summary of the quarter, but as you would expect, some nuances between our regions.
Let's get into it, and next slide, please. As expected, it's been a tough start of 2026, fighting a challenging market.
We continue to see different realities between our two regions, and there are also some clear positives to comment on. In North America, we record another strong quarter, and we continue to be well positioned with our local US production to serve a broad customer base from our Midwest manufacturing footprint.
16% EBITDA margin is solid, but we were hit by some unusually heavy snowfalls and freezing temperatures that forced us to take a couple of days unplanned production stop, and it drove our energy and logistics costs higher than expected. For Region Europe, it was a quarter of incremental price pressure, currency headwind, and loss of emission rights that pushed down the profitability to a level below expectations.
Having said that, we have plans in place, and we are taking further action to strengthen the situation going forward, and we are certainly more optimistic about our Q2, and we do expect a profit recovery, but more on that later. One clear positive for our Q1 was the shipment.
We managed to grow volume with 9% versus Q4, and that growth came from both regions and broad-based across several categories, and is a number we are happy with. Our cash conversion for the quarter was solid, and we're delivering well on our cost saving program, and we are ahead of our plan.
Some additional comments on the market sentiment, next slide, please. If I start with North America, we continue to meet more stable and solid conditions.
Consumption seems to be okay across our core categories, and our order books are solid for the foreseeable future. We produce now at approximately 80% operating rate.
Another highlight is our strategic priority to grow our position within packaging materials. The start of 2026 was encouraging, and we continue to take new positions with both existing and new customers, and Q1 was, as expected, our best sales quarter in that regard.
In Europe, the market continues to be difficult, but with some rays of light. We shipped better than expected, and it was a clear uplift from Q4, in particular on liquid packaging board.
Now, we are a bit cautious, as our sense of this strong start is partly linked to three buckets: A, customers building up some inventory after a slow end of '25; B, supply chain uncertainty in the wake of the Middle East conflict; and C, some customers ordering a bit extra ahead of announced price adjustments from Q2 and onwards. For the Asia and the rest of the world, we see a mixed picture.
It's mostly weak, but we do see some encouraging sign on the liquid packaging board, where we are picking up some signals that in particular demand in China is better than expected. Also, industrial in the rest of the world has strengthened a bit during the quarter, in particular on sack.
With that, I hand it over to Andrei.
Andrei Krés
Thank you, Ivar, and good morning, everyone. Our currency-neutral sales are down 5% versus a year ago, and that was primarily driven by the price decline in Region Europe.
In North America, the pricing was flat versus a year ago. Clearly, the strengthening of Swedish krona since last year has had a significant impact on our sales and also profit, which I will get back to.
Volume-wise, they were marginally down, with 1% in both regions. Next slide, please.
The profit for the group declined significantly versus last year, primarily driven by Region Europe. Foreign exchange and pricing have been the two big drivers for the decline.
In addition, loss of emission rights and also more extensive maintenance shutdown schedule Q1 this year were other two major building blocks. Since we have decline in input costs in the quarter, we're also having a negative inventory revaluation impact, while last year, that impact was positive, and hence year-over-year, it's a significant item in our bridge.
Now, on a positive side, our cost saving program is delivering ahead of plan, and we have significant decline in fixed costs versus a year ago. Now, let's move over to the regions.
Next slide, please. Despite the strong sequential volume uplift versus the fourth quarter, the profit for Region Europe declined.
Lower pricing, together with loss of emission rights and also stronger Swedish krona, were the main drivers behind the profit decline compared to Q4. We did see pulpwood costs to come down, although it was slightly slower than expected due to slower inventory turnover of the pulpwood.
We do expect the decline on pulpwood costs to continue also into the second quarter, and that will, of course, be major cost relief for the region. Now, to restore the profitability, we have announced price increases on sack and kraft grades, and also on containerboard.
We expect the positive pricing impact to start materializing in quarter two. For other categories, we have implemented surcharges for increased logistical costs due to the situation in the Middle East.
Moving over to Region North America. Next slide, please.
Profitability for Region Europe declined also versus quarter four, but that was entirely driven by higher input costs. As Ivar mentioned, we did experience some challenging weather conditions with both extreme cold and also heavy snowstorm, which impacted our energy and logistics costs.
We had to take two days of production downtime during the quarter. We certainly do not expect the same extreme weather conditions in quarter two, and the region should be back to strong underlying profitability.
On the back of solid demand and, to some extent, cost inflation in the region, we have announced broad-based price increases for our paper grades. The impact for quarter two will be quite limited, but we should see full impact materializing in quarter three.
Finally, our North American team is continuing to ramp up sales of paperboard grades, and we have also now started to provide turnover figure for cartonboard and containerboard sales in our quarterly report. Next slide, please.
Now, in terms of the input costs, both regions had somewhat higher input costs versus our ingoing expectations for the first quarter. For North America, again, the weather conditions resulted in approximately 40 million higher input costs compared to quarter four.
For Europe, we did see costs to come down on pulpwood, but that was partly offset by higher electricity costs. All in all, the costs were down around 60 million compared to quarter four for Region Europe.
The earlier announced price list changes on pulpwood are materializing, and just recently, there was a wave of price list decreases which were particular to the storm areas in Mid Sweden. Next slide, please.
Now, in terms of cost development for the second quarter, we do expect overall costs to come down, but there are quite a lot moving pieces from where we stand. For Region Europe, we should see costs to continue to come down both from declining pulpwood prices and also seasonally lower energy costs.
We do, however, expect cost inflation to start materialize on chemicals and logistics due to the situation in the Middle East. At this point, all in all, we expect a sequential cost relief of around 150 million for Europe compared to quarter one.
For North America, the overall input costs should remain quite flat, with somewhat higher fiber and chemical costs expected to be offset by seasonally lower energy costs. Our US operations are mostly exposed to natural gas prices, and they have been relatively stable in US despite the situation in Middle East.
Next slide, please. Continuing on the topic of the Middle East conflict, it didn't have any material impact on our Q1 results.
We have managed the sales deliveries to our customers well, and we did not have any significant exposure through sales to the region. With that said, indirectly, we do see input costs to start coming up, and that is primarily on chemicals and logistics through higher oil and gas prices.
We do expect that to be a factor in 2026. Our plan is to mitigate the cost inflation through pricing, and we have already announced broad-based price increases in both of our regions, and plan to do further increases to compensate for the higher costs.
With that, I hand it back to you, Ivar.
Ivar Vatne
Thank you, Andrei. As I already mentioned, we are doing good progress on our cost saving program, and we are ahead of our plan, enabling us to raise the ambition for 2026 impact.
All of the planned staff reductions are now completed, and we record 100 million saving in the first quarter, and I'm pleased to see how we come together as a company to execute the program. We will see sequential impact of 50 million SEK in Q2, and it takes the plan for 2026 up to 550 million.
The remaining 250 million SEK to reach the full program ambition of 800 million can be expected in 2027. Next slide, please.
In terms of cash flow and cash conversion, we managed a cash conversion of 55% for the quarter, which is improved versus what we did last year. With our continued focus on working capital, we remain focused and committed to deliver a 80% plus cash conversion for the year.
Our net debt is pretty stable around 6 billion SEK, and leverage remains well below target. Lastly, our CapEx for 2026 remain unchanged: base CapEx for both regions at 2 billion SEK, while 600 million SEK for the strategic CapEx, which is first and foremost earmarked to the evolution program in North America.
Next slide, please. To round it up, for Q2, we would expect an improved performance and profit recovery, especially through benefits from pulpwood prices in Nordic and more help from our cost saving program.
Market sentiment is still challenging in Europe, while solid in North America. The situation is highly volatile and changes almost by the week, but we will likely see additional cost inflation for chemicals and logistics coming out of the Middle East crisis.
Our plan is to more than mitigate through both announced and new price announcements. Lastly, in line with our annual shot schedule, somewhat higher sequential maintenance cost.
With that, I hand it back to operator for Q&A.
Operator
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One moment, please. Your first question today comes from the line of Robin Santavirta from DNB Carnegie.
Please go ahead.
Robin Santavirta
Thank you very much. Good morning, everybody.
First question I have is related to the demand outlook going into Q2. You mentioned there's a lot of uncertainty going on related to the Middle East crisis and other things as well.
In Europe and in North America, how does your order book look like right now, and what is the rate of order intake over the past few weeks?
Andrei Krés
Good morning, Robin. In terms of volume and the demand outlook, I think it's better to, of course, break it up into the regions.
For North America, we have solid order books, and we should at this point expect pretty much stable volumes heading into the second quarter, maybe slightly up. For Europe, the situation is a bit different, and it is a bit more uncertain with everything going on.
I think if we look at the sequential volume uplift we had from Q4, as Ivar mentioned, we had a couple of factors playing in there, and I think there was some pre-ordering ahead of the announced price increases. Of course, this puts bigger question mark around Q2 volumes.
At this point, we would probably look to slightly lower volumes for the second quarter.
Robin Santavirta
All right, thanks. The second question I have is related to pricing.
Can you shed some light about the earnings impact from price increases going into Q2, and if you have any more on Q3 as well?
Andrei Krés
I'll start with Q2, Robin. Actually looking at the both regions, we expect prices to increase with around 1% to 2%.
Now, that's a combination of announced price increases, but also our ability to improve mix based on slightly better order books that we have seen. At this point, we would expect for both of our region price and mix effect to be positive between 1% and 2%.
I think Q2 Q3, of course, the price announcements that we have made during the quarter, they will be impacting also the third quarter. I think it's quite a lot uncertainty at this point, we will need to wait a bit and see traction on the price announcements before we can provide some more color on quarter
Robin Santavirta
three. Understand.
Thanks. The final question I have is maybe for you, Ivar.
You mentioned in the report persistent overcapacity in a lot of your segments and you speak about potential consolidation, the need for consolidation. When it comes to mill operating rates and potential closures, potential consolidation, is this something you are involved in as well?
Could you comment a little bit about the industry and also your perspective, your own actions with regards to this?
Ivar Vatne
Good morning, Robin. Let me just start by saying a couple more things before specifically trying to answer on the Billerud side.
It has been quite a long period of time now that we see for our European sector that margins are underwhelming. If you look at some of the return on capital employed, they are almost consistently low single digit, and in the lower end of that.
Quite frankly, that is unsustainable in the long future, and specifically given the capital intensity of our sector. We do see this reality starting to take place, and regionalization is a word I use from time to time where, yeah, each region now and the local production in the region is going to start to have a more prominent place.
It means just straight to the point that we in Europe, there is too much installed capacity versus what the defined market now seems to be. We're still operating at a pretty decent operating rate now in Q1, and that number is close to 90%.
Very, very squeezed pricing situation and margins being certainly compressed. In many ways, something has to be done.
We would expect that is just the law or the nature law here now that something has to yield, and something has to come out to restore a more healthy long-term supply and demand balance. I expect most players now in the sector to take at least very deep conversation about this topic that includes ourselves.
There are plenty items, of course, you can do in these fields. There's nothing else I can share at this moment, and nothing that is you can say advanced enough that we would share.
Clearly, this is a topic I expect the whole sector now to wrestle with in a more intense manner than some quarters and years ago.
Robin Santavirta
Understand. Thank you very much.
Operator
Thank you. Your next question today comes from the line of Martin Melbye from ABG Sundal Collier.
Please go ahead.
Martin Melbye
Good morning. Many of the puzzles or many of the pieces for the puzzle for Q2 have been answered now, but on pulpwood costs and the inventory revaluation, is that something to keep an eye on for Q2 or is that flattish?
You mentioned the further price reductions being made. What is remaining of EBIT effect for, say, Q3, Q4 on wood costs?
Andrei Krés
Good morning, Martin. I can start with the pulpwood and inventory revaluation.
I would like to separate them just because it's easier to talk around them. The inventory revaluation impact we had on a group level was -50 million in the first quarter, and we do expect that to be roughly the same, -50 million, also for the second quarter, just on the back of continued input cost decline on the pulpwood.
In terms of the pulpwood cost for the second quarter, we do expect a reduction of roughly 110 million for our Region Europe. As I mentioned, it's the 150 million in total for Europe, that also includes some reduction in the energy prices.
Looking now for the third and fourth quarter, again, there's quite a lot going on. At this point, we would still look at, on average, price per cubic meter to be roughly 100 SEK lower in 2026 compared to 2025.
That's still our ingoing assumption and outlook.
Martin Melbye
What does that mean in SEK per cubic meter for Q3, Q4 versus Q2?
Andrei Krés
It's difficult to point out the exact impact in quarter three and quarter four, but after the second quarter now, we should have the majority of the declines behind us, and probably some marginal effect in quarter three and quarter four.
Martin Melbye
Okay. Thank you.
Operator
Thank you. Your next question today comes from the line of Linus Larsson from SEB.
Please go ahead.
Linus Larsson
Thank you very much, and a very good morning to everyone. Just on the topic of costs, if you could maybe come back to how you look at freight costs in the second compared to the first quarter, and if that's part of the guidance that you've been giving here quantifying, or if that comes on top, and if so, what that impact might be?
Andrei Krés
Good morning, Linus. No, the logistics costs is included in our guidance.
When we talk again 150 million input cost relief for Region Europe, that also includes a slight increase on the logistics costs that we expect due to the situation in the Middle East.
Linus Larsson
Excellent. That's great.
Thanks for clarifying that. Then just coming back to your low profitability in Europe.
Now, you've been EBIT negative for the past couple of quarters. You're still EBITDA positive in the first quarter, but only slightly.
I wonder if you could share maybe some view on how it differs across your various assets and if there are huge differences in terms of profitability when you compare the various production units within Europe.
Ivar Vatne
Hi, good morning, Linus. I can take that.
I'm not going to comment on any profit situation or specific cost-competitive per mill. Clearly, they are in some sense a variation depending on everything from size of machines, energy situation, pulp integration, etc.
I can say the following, that you point out that the margin is squeezed and profitability is certainly under pressure in Europe. I think that is obvious for everyone.
It's a sector, I think, that is seeing the same pattern. For us now, we are keeping a very tight control on the items we can influence, and cost program is still going to be an important piece as a building block for us '26 versus '25.
Andrei mentioned already, but we certainly expect more help going forward also on this pulpwood price decreases. That should help us, and that should also enables us to have a certain profit recovery going into Q2 and onwards.
The situation is, as I said, it's strained, and it's reflection of the unhealthy balance we currently have. You can say that these steps we're taking now, they are intermediate or they are needed items.
The bigger picture still hangs over the sector as a supply-demand imbalance.
Linus Larsson
As you may understand, the reason that I'm curious is because I wonder whether there are opportunities to address certain paper machines or certain mills to make a significant improvement on overall profitability. When you talk about restructuring, do you see that you have very much in your own hands or do you see the big opportunities in combination with other potential partners?
Ivar Vatne
I think it's all of the above, if I'm honest. I think everybody should be on the menu.
In general, I have to say our commercial portfolio is one of the stronger points of Billerud. We do have exposure into mostly categories that are growing and have had a high degree of resilience in the past.
Right now, there's just too much board capacity in particular that just makes it challenging in pricing in general. I think we will look at everything we can internally in terms of mix optimization and, yeah, you can call it mill optimization, either alone or in combination.
I think everything now is on the table.
Linus Larsson
Great. Thank you very much.
Operator
Thank you. We will now take the next question, and the question comes from the line of Oskar Lindström from Danske Bank.
Please go ahead.
Oskar Lindström
Good morning. Three sets of questions from me.
The first one is, do you expect any further quarter-on-quarter impact from loss of emission rights in Q2? That's my first question.
Andrei Krés
Yes, good morning, Oskar. No, we do not expect any effect into the second quarter.
Oskar Lindström
Excellent. The second question, you talk a little bit about signs of improving demand.
You mentioned liquid packaging board in Asia. I think you mentioned also sack kraft paper.
Do you believe this is sort of inventory building or underlying demand or something else? How can you be certain about any of that?
Ivar Vatne
Hi, good morning, Oskar. I think it's a good question.
I don't think I need to remind everyone that what happened 12 months ago where Q1 was pretty strong for the sector and then we ran into a very different situation from Q2 and onwards. Honestly, now, everything happening almost at the same time in Middle East, coming in as another black swan, it is difficult to really pinpoint.
Clearly, we're having the discussion with a broad range of customers to get a feel for this. We are pretty certain that a piece of the volume uplift we saw in Q1 is around inventory adjustments, either pre-ordering ahead of announced pricing, partly also nervous around supply chain uncertainty given the Middle East crisis.
Our view is that that is not a significant part, but there are some volume, can call it a minor or a somewhat of a volume uplift. I think we don't see broad-based good sign or credible sign that the market is strengthening.
There are pockets of it. I mentioned already one that you referenced, liquid packaging in Asia, in particular China, has started better, which is encouraging after we had quite a few years with some negative market growth in China.
We shouldn't also forget this, and that tend to be overlooked as a topic, that given now that everything from oil price and some resin-based derivatives have increased, it also make fiber-based packaging more competitive versus some of the substrate of plastic. We have signs of that as well, especially, for instance, on the sack, that our products now more competitive and customers are adjusting their behavior quite fast.
Will that last? Is that now more of a longer trend?
Who knows, depending a bit on also what's going to happen, how long down in Middle East. Certainly some signs are a little bit more encouraging in fewer segments than 3 months ago.
Oskar Lindström
All right. Thank you.
My third and final question is also, I guess, a little bit more of a general one. We're seeing increasing use of hardwood pulp in several paper segments, and do you see this sort of impacting liquid packaging board or and your other segments?
Is it a step change, or is it more of a continuation of a gradual trend that's been going on for a long time?
Ivar Vatne
That's another good question. I think if you go through our portfolio and look at what we can offer to our customers, softwood would be, I can tell you, for the foreseeable future, the dominant component.
That is partly everything from stiffness, from flexibility to strength, to some of the items of bulk that characterizes a heavy softwood content. In that sense, we are not super worried about it.
I think we have this niches where we talk about high-performance packaging material, which has always been the core and the DNA of Billerud. I think cartonboard is maybe one area that stands out.
There is more carton coming our way, and I think we see some signs of higher hardwood content on that, in particular in Asia. You could probably even put in some liner in that as well, with the fluting liner being a product that is getting a bit of traction.
You can say that it's starting to eat its way into some of the segments. For us, given where we stand and our portfolio today, nothing dramatic that what I would expect to change anytime soon.
Oskar Lindström
All right. It's more of a gradual development than something that's new that's happening in 2026.
Ivar Vatne
At least for our side, the answer is yes.
Oskar Lindström
Wonderful. Thank you.
Those were my three questions.
Ivar Vatne
Thank you.
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Our next question today comes from the line of Cole Hathorn from Jefferies. Please go ahead.
Cole Hathorn
Morning. Thanks for taking my question.
I'd just like to follow up on the wood cost. You mentioned kind of 100 SEK cube lower '26 versus '25, sticking with the kind of billion cost relief.
Now, into the third and fourth quarter, I was still expecting a little bit more kind of pulpwood cost relief. Are you guiding that because there's kind of diesel costs increasing that the cost to the mill gate, you're kind of sticking to that 1 billion, or are there some moving parts in that kind of wood cost relief is what I'm asking.
Is kind of stumpage still coming down, but cost to the mill gate is going up a little bit just considering diesel?
Andrei Krés
Good morning, Cole. I think, obviously, we have some parts of the price increases for the energy and diesel, in particular, that's specific to the harvesting, which is carried by the forest owners.
When it comes for the logistics to bringing the wood from the forest or roadside to our mills, we do expect some increase on the cost side. We have activities in place to mitigate those effects.
I think also the additional price reduction for the storm area now, that's obviously something that is partly offsetting that increased cost. That's why we also at this point, at least, stick to the same outlook for '26, i.e., 100 SEK per cubic meter lower pulpwood cost.
That's our best guess at this point.
Cole Hathorn
Thank you. Then, Ivar, you talked about pricing announced as well as potential need for further ones for the cost.
Can I just understand how you're thinking about that? Because liquid packaging board, I imagine just for the logistics, you're going to need to try and push through some surcharges there.
The rest of the portfolio, is this kind of surcharging for logistics, or is it, do you think you need to go out to the market for underlying price increases where possible?
Ivar Vatne
Good morning, Cole. I think it is both, or the latter, that you pointed to.
I think it will be a combination category by category. I think it also depends quite a bit on what we see on the recycled side.
There has been movements, I guess broad-based in that field, as you know. I'm pretty certain that we would see more just on the basis of some of the cost situation and how it would be hitting harder the non-integrated and the more energy-depending players, specifically in continental Europe.
Clearly, that's something that we also take with us. We've seen you can many ways say round one.
I'm certainly there will be a round two, and be certainly also gearing up for that. It will be a combination then on what position we have on that to what we also see on the recycled side.
It's a pretty fast-moving situation, and I would certainly expect more movements to happen now during second quarter.
Cole Hathorn
Thank you. Then the last one, it's a difficult one, and it might be a bit of an unfair question, but you've been very open on the need for capacity closures and industry consolidation to improve the supply-demand balance and everyone's looking at it.
We still haven't seen as much action as we probably should. The industry has been talking about this for the last year, and we just haven't seen the closures that the industry needs.
How do you think about it going forward from here? Do you think that price increases are ultimately delaying the inevitable here, and are we going to be in a position where we actually need the closures rather than the price hikes?
Just like your thoughts on the general industry, I know
Ivar Vatne
it's
Cole Hathorn
a difficult question.
Ivar Vatne
It's a good question. I don't think it's unfair at all.
It could very well be so, that what we see right now might short-term, I don't know, give a little bit more optimism back, or push some margin in the right direction. I still think that the underlying challenge that we are wrestling with, and we've seen this in Europe for years now, it's not only a quarter or two, is how the compressed margin and returns are just unsatisfactory.
We see completely different ballgame in the US, where I think also it has been a much tighter race in terms of managing capacity. I do expect, everything else equal, unless that we see suddenly now that there is some import tariffs that being reversed or you would see something, the X factor of pulpwood from Russia coming back in and all of this seems now unlikely, I think we are facing as a sector the inevitability that some capacity has to come out.
Then,
Cole Hathorn
just because we don't get much visibility on the sack and specialty kraft side, would you just mind providing a little bit more color on what are you seeing in those end markets by customers? Which would be very helpful.
Thank you.
Ivar Vatne
No, I can do that. I think if I start with our sack, and maybe going to brown first, situation is stable on a quite low level.
There are some demand increases in some niche areas. Africa and Asia are important sectors for us.
We do think that a lot of that so far or the more order intake is linked to uncertainty around the Middle East. As I mentioned earlier here in the call, price on resin and derivatives have gone through the roof, and it is enabling us to be more competitive.
Most of all of our products, particularly this woven polybag is a product we now have a much better value proposition on our sack to compete with. White sack, quite similar, quite decent order books going into Q2.
I think we are at this stage careful to say anything about underlying strength, but probably we can confirm that some customers are now trying to secure positions. Moving to kraft paper and starting with MG, quite stable on again low level, not as good order books as we see on sack.
Now, uncertainty on the supply chain is also making some customers, especially overseas, booking a bit more than they normally do. Maybe one notch down then in terms of where we are on the market versus the sack.
Lastly, I think on MF, we do have a good product on the e-commerce, and that part is performing quite well. It fits well to our portfolio, and also talking back to my point about how we can have a product that has high performance.
Strength on market is okay for the time being, nothing more, but very decent order books also on the MF going into second quarter.
Cole Hathorn
Thank you.
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Lena Schattauer
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Thank you for participating, and welcome back the 17th of July when we report the second quarter results.
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