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Q4 FY2025 · Earnings Call TranscriptFebruary 19, 2026

Michel Aupers

Good morning everyone, and welcome to the Royal BAM Group analyst meeting. My name is Michel Aupers, Investor Relations Manager.

I'm pleased to have you with us today. The meeting is hosted by our CEO, Ruud Joosten, and our CFO, Henri de Pater, who will take you through the key highlights of BAM's full-year 2025 results.

The presentation slides are available on our website. After their remarks, we will take your questions.

I draw your attention to the disclaimer here. Ruud, over to you, please.

Ruud Joosten

Thank you, Michel, and good morning all. On the front page, you see an image of one of our flood protection projects in the UK.

Along the Norfolk coastline, we replaced aging timber groynes with new rock groynes, significantly strengthening coastal defenses for our local communities and the Norfolk Broads. We began this project in October '24 and successfully completed it in June '25.

It's a good example of the impactful work we deliver to protect people, nature, and vital infrastructure. Let's start with the key points over 2025.

The group has delivered a strong performance in 2025, reflecting the success of our strategy and our core strength in the energy transition, transportation, and Dutch residential markets. Our '25 results show a very solid top-line development.

Revenue increased by 9% to more than €7 billion, with consistent, disciplined growth across both divisions. This underlines the strength and focus of our current portfolio and the progress we have made.

We also delivered a substantial improvement in our adjusted EBITDA margin, increasing from 5.2% a year ago to 5.7%. This reflects our disciplined execution and our continued efforts to further lower our risk profile and drive profitable growth.

In 2025, our reported adjusted EBITDA increased by 20% to €400 million, and we are also proud to present a net result of €211 million, a strong increase compared to the last year. All our activities contributed strongly this year, demonstrating the resilience and effectiveness of our business model.

We also continue to make solid progress on our legacy projects. In 2025, we handed over the final school project in Denmark, completed the Co-op Live arena in the United Kingdom, and saw the successful opening of the Silvertown Tunnel in London.

In December, we started handing over the first section of the new children's hospital. These milestones mark an important step in closing out our legacy portfolio and further strengthening the foundation of our company.

Regarding the Fehmarnbelt tunnel project, in which BAM holds a 12.2% stake, the consortium continued to engage in constructive dialogue with the clients. We expect to immerse the first tunnel element in the first half of this year.

Our other key performances indicators also remained solid. We maintained a strong financial position by focusing on projects with an attractive risk-reward balance, along with effective cost and working capital management.

This has resulted in a robust solvency and further strengthening of our cash position. It's good to see that our order book was maintained at the high level of €13 billion.

A substantial part of our recent project wins aligns with our strategic objective to expand in sustainable solutions while we remain focused on the quality of our order intake. Continuing to strengthen our safety culture remains a key priority.

We made further progress in embedding our group-wide safety program, and we continue to invest in development of our people to ensure BAM remains an employer of choice. Finally, our leadership in sustainability was reaffirmed once again.

We received the prestigious CDP Climate A rating for the seventh consecutive time, underscoring the consistent efforts to mitigate climate change and our long-term commitment to responsible business. Looking ahead, for 2026, BAM expects to deliver further growth in revenue and adjusted EBITDA.

With that in mind, let's continue to the next slide, where I will highlight how our solid performance translated into meaningful shareholder remuneration. We intend to distribute circa 55% of our net income to shareholders.

We are proposing a dividend of 30 cents per share over 2025. This represents a 20% increase compared to the 25 cents paid over 2024.

We will supplement this dividend with a €40 million share buyback. This program is supported by our strong operational performance and solid cash position.

Share buybacks executed since 2023 have already reduced the number of shares entitled to dividend by almost 7% at year-end 2025. Taken together, BAM will return €357 million to shareholders in the period 2023-2026.

This demonstrates the disciplined execution of our capital allocation framework and our clear commitment to sustainable value creation. Looking beyond '26, further share buybacks will depend on our balance sheet structure and strategic opportunities available to us.

We will continue to take a disciplined, value-driven approach that supports both our long-term strategy and attractive shareholder returns. Now, let's look at the performance of our two divisions.

Hart van de Waalsprong is the sustainable and vibrant new city center of Nijmegen-Noord, a place where homes, shops, workplaces, and green public spaces come together. You will also find there the first energy-neutral shopping center in the Netherlands.

Together with our co-developer, we delivered there 524 homes, nearly 12,000 square meters of commercial space, two parking garages, and a high-quality public realm. The project was completed in 2025.

In the Netherlands, we delivered a strong performance. Revenue increased by 8%, and our adjusted EBITDA rose sharply from €161 million to €250 million, reflecting a solid margin of 7.2%.

This improvement was driven by the high activity level in non-residential construction, and our civil engineering operations in the Netherlands also continued to deliver strong results, and we saw excellent momentum in our housing activities. Home sales increased by 27% to 2,354 units, supported by several larger transactions with institutional investors.

Overall, these results highlight the strength and resilience of our Dutch platform. Let me take you to our Dutch residential property development portfolio, where we are seeing promising traction and clear opportunities for further growth.

In 2025, we invested significantly in expanding the development pipeline of our Dutch residential property activities, which now compromises around 30,000 homes. We secured an attractive development pipeline for the next years, and we reinforced our position as one of the leading residential developers in the Netherlands.

During the year, we added approximately 5,500 homes to our portfolio. This included strategic positions in Alphen aan den Rijn, Bilthoven, Deurne, Vught, and Amsterdam.

With the acquisition of Gebroeders Blokland, we strengthened our portfolio of land positions and residential projects across Zuid-Holland, Utrecht, Gelderland, and Noord-Brabant. This portfolio includes land and building rights for roughly 2,400 suburban homes.

Together, we can accelerate joint sales, expand our combined network, and optimize our project pipelines. We also see an increasing focus on large-scale area development.

In 2025, the Ministry of Housing and Spatial Planning, together with local authorities and market partners, identified 24 breakthrough locations, where construction can be accelerated, representing a potential of 150,000 new homes. Our strategic positions in or near many of these areas allow us to contribute meaningfully to faster housing delivery.

In 2025, our total investment in Dutch property development increased by circa €100 million to €640 million. Moving on to the UK and Ireland.

In Waterford, Ireland, we are delivering a 207-meter sustainable transport bridge, a key element of the North Quays Public Infrastructure project. This low-carbon, pedestrian- and cyclist-focused cross link will connect the city center with the North Quays district and support Ireland's largest urban regeneration program.

Designed with an opening span for river traffic and built using reduced-carbon materials, the bridge reflects our commitment to sustainable, future-focused infrastructure. In the UK and Ireland, we also delivered an excellent performance.

Revenue increased by 10%, and the division achieved a substantial improvement in profitability, with adjusted EBITDA rising to €160 million. This is an increase of 40% compared to last year, and it translates into a margin of 4.7%.

I'm particularly pleased that Construction UK returned to profitability. This reflects a disciplined project selection and solid operational execution.

An important milestone was the finalization of Co-op Live, one of the most significant and complex venues delivered in the UK in recent years. Our civil engineering activities in the UK and our activities in Ireland continued to perform robustly, even compared to the particularly strong year 2024.

Now, Henri will elaborate on the financials.

Henri de Pater

Thank you, Ruud, and good morning everyone. What you see on this slide is one of our key contributions to the future of the Dutch energy system: the new high-voltage connection between Borssele and Rilland.

This project sits within our €367 million multi-year framework agreement with TenneT. It's a strategic investment aimed at strengthening and expanding the national electricity grid, ensuring it can support steadily increasing integration of sustainable energy.

It underscores our disciplined execution, our leadership in the energy transition, and our enduring partnership with TenneT in developing a more resilient and future-ready network. As Ruud has already said, we are reporting a strong adjusted EBITDA result of €400 million.

In addition to this strong result, it's also worth pointing out our strong order book of €13 billion and a further improvement in our solvency, in line with our expectations. We are showing a strong cash position of €0.9 billion.

This is an improvement of €120 million compared to a year ago. These strong results have been achieved through solid performance across all our activities and confirm that we are effectively executing our strategy.

Let's zoom in on some details of our income statement. Our total turnover has increased by 9%, and it's very encouraging to see that both divisions and Belgium are contributing to the top-line growth, which has been achieved largely organically.

Comparing our results with last year, we see an EBITDA growth of 20%. This improvement is not only based on growth in revenue, but also shows even more clearly that we are benefiting from a strong margin in line with our strategic principles.

The divestment of our remaining stake in Invesis, which was formally completed on the 25th of March last year, had no further impact on the results in 2025. Our depreciation and amortization amounted to €158 million.

This represents an increase compared to last year, which can be explained by our ongoing investments in sustainable modular solutions, including the further electrification of our plant and equipment, and is fully in line with our plans. Our finance result improved slightly compared with a year ago, showing a result of more than €10 million.

This is mainly due to a lower-than-expected interest cost in the property business, our strong cash position, and the payment agreements related to the Invesis divestment. The adjusted items in the income statement relate to reorganization costs, positively offset by the reversal of impairments within our property business.

The tax charge amounts to €38 million. This represents a tax rate of 15%, which reflects the recognition of additional tax losses to be used in next five years to offset Netherlands profits.

The strong result in 2025 also indicates that going forward, the tax rate will gradually increase. The bottom line shows a delivered net result of €211 million, which translates into earnings per share of 81 cents, a substantial improvement with regard to the 31 cents a year ago.

Let's take a look at the cash flow statement together. Our strong operating results translate into a strong cash flow of €354 million.

We can see that the cash flow from our working capital is slightly negative, noting that this amount includes a net investment of €55 million related to investments in property. This amount is lower than the €90 million we reported in the first half of this year, which can be easily explained by the higher number of transports of sold homes in the second half of this year.

It goes without saying that we are very pleased with the development of our trade working capital efficiency over the past year. This percentage has improved slightly, but is now stable for the second year in a row.

The net cash flow from our investment activities was limited to €4 million, and the most important elements are: investments in our CapEx in line with our plans of €83 million; payments received in the amount of €108 million relating to the Invesis divestment; and the payment for our previously announced purchase of Vealweide. Next, it's good to look at the cash flow related to financing activities, which amounts to €198 million.

This amounts consists of the payment of our dividends, amounting to €66 million; the purchase of shares, amounting to €50 million; and the remaining parts relates to leases and a small increase in property funding. It can be concluded that our total cash position has increased by €120 million over the past year to the previously mentioned strong level of €0.9 billion.

Let's now look at our financial position. As you can see, our net cash position after loans and lease obligations is €501 million.

This is an improvement of €61 million compared to last year. It's just explained the slight improvement in our trade working capital, which means that we are now looking at shareholders' equity, which has increased by €62 million compared to a year ago.

The explanation for this is as follows: we have earned a net income of €211 million; we had a negative effect of €24 million related to the exchange rate; and as explained earlier, we paid a total of €160 million in dividends and share buyback; and we have an effect related to the post-employment benefit obligations. Next, it's good to look at solvency, which has been further strengthened compared to last year.

Finally, we can also see on this slide that our return on average capital employed has increased. This is a positive result that demonstrates strong financial effectiveness.

Now back to you, Ruud.

Ruud Joosten

Thank you, Henri. I would like to conclude with the market trends and our outlook for the full year '26.

I would like to conclude with the market trends and our outlook for the full year '26. Here we show you a photo of De Lairesse in Belgium.

At project De Lairesse in Anderlecht, we are creating a modern, vibrant district that brings living, working, and learning together in one integrated development. BAM Galère as developer and BAM Interbuild, together with partners, delivered a state-of-the-art school campus and childcare facilities.

This project reflects our capability to shape inclusive communities and deliver long-term value for the city and its residents. We are pleased with the development of our order book, which has maintained at the high level of €13 billion.

This while we continue to focus strongly on order book quality and selective tendering in key markets, where we have proven competitive advantage. Now, over to the market trends.

In the Netherlands, the residential market remained strong, driven by stable consumer confidence. The non-residential market is cautiously optimistic, specifically in the education and office sector.

In civil, there are many attractive growth opportunities driven by the energy transition and the transport market. There remains a strong rationale for essential investment in energy transition, infrastructure, defense, and sustainable and affordable homes.

The Dutch coalition agreement, Aan de Slag, or Get to Work, creates opportunities to move forward, such as building faster, increasing grid capacity, and improving our roads, bridges, and locks. We also see opportunities in it to achieve the goal to build 100,000 homes per year, but it does require decisiveness, clear choices, collaboration, and investments.

The construction market in the United Kingdom is expected to strengthen, supported by the government's continued focus on energy security. The government's 10-year infrastructure plan is ambitious, and defense investment is also set to increase.

The recently approved UK Planning and Infrastructure Bill has the potential to accelerate approvals for major projects. In London, commercial planning activity is rising, with growing emphasis on retrofit developments.

In Ireland, the €275 billion National Development Plan is expected to provide a significant boost to the construction sector. Delivering complex infrastructure projects and new homes are essential for creating thriving communities, but this requires stability, clear planning, and commitment beyond short-term political agendas.

Now over to the outlook for the full year. We continue our disciplined contract and risk management approach, which is a fundamental priority with our strategy, to enhance our financial performance and predictability.

For 2026, BAM expects to deliver further growth in revenue and adjusted EBITDA. Thank you for your time.

We are proud of the set of results we've just presented to you. In our view, these numbers emphasize that our strategy—Focus, Reform, and Expand—is paying off.

Now, let's go to your questions.

Martijn Verbeek

Maarten Verbeek at Oddo BHF. Firstly, let me address the loss I do see in your German, Belgium, and international business units.

You mentioned that UK, Ireland, Belgium did well, it seems that you still booked a loss in Germany or international. Could you share some additional information about this €9 million EBITDA loss?

Ruud Joosten

That is true. That line kind of is a combination of the Belgium results and some legacy items we still need to solve.

In this case, one of the two legacy items we still had in Germany that was settled not so long ago during the year. That balances then out with let's say the positive result in Belgium.

Martijn Verbeek

Okay. Secondly, you made a nice improvement in the Netherlands and the UK.

There's another Dutch construction company listed in the Netherlands making an EBITDA margin more than you do in the Netherlands. Is that a targeted margin for you?

Is it realistic for you to also generate such a profitability? UK is different story, different structure, but if I just look at your Dutch operations versus those of the Rosmalen-based one, is there a major difference why you could not or should generate a similar margin?

Ruud Joosten

Of course, I fully respect our competitors, including our friends from Rosmalen, but it's not up to me to discuss their results, of course. I'm here today to discuss the BAM results.

Of course, we try to improve margins, we also try to improve revenues. That's also in the outlook for this year.

We see good development of the financials of the Dutch division. Of course, it's very difficult to compare the exact mix of activities with the different companies.

That's maybe a game I'm not going to play. I look at the individual, let's say, segments of our business and try to maximize results there.

I see a lot of opportunity to increase revenue and to look at profitability. Of course, this year, we also had a good growth in revenue, so that's also the balancing act of looking for attractive projects with higher margins and lower risk.

That's a balancing act we are playing. I'm really happy with the 2025 results there, because we saw indeed organic growth in the division, with improvement of the margin.

Of course, we are aiming further margin improvement going forward also for the Dutch division. Also one of the reasons why we invest heavily in property.

In the last years, financials, you see a big increase in investment in property, normally leading also to a higher margin in the balance. There are a few thoughts, I think, on looking at our margin.

Martijn Verbeek

You sold much more homes than what you indicated. The guidance was more or less flat, but you clearly beat that number.

Has home sales been brought forward into this year? Are you also willing to provide a guidance for what you expect for this year, excluding the Gebroeders Blokland acquisition?

Ruud Joosten

Of course, also selling of homes is a kind of mix bag of homes over the year. You have let's say out-of-the-city homes, family homes, but you also have a lot of and that's getting more important in the Dutch market, apartments, smaller apartments as well.

You saw that in the last part of the year, our sales numbers were heavily impacted by some deals with investors, a few bigger deals that gave a real push to the number of homes in the last quarter especially. No, we brought nothing forward.

That are deals that are developed over a longer period, and then they appear at the moment, in this case, at the end of the year, push in the end of the year, and then that leads to a big increase. Can be a few deals that can make a difference of hundreds of homes.

We're very happy with the development. More importantly, of course, we are investing strongly in property to have a structural increase of our home sales for the next years.

The Blokland acquisition was important in that sense as well, leading to approximately 200 additional homes a year. Looking for this kind of opportunities is important to have a structural increase of the number of home sales.

Martijn Verbeek

Lastly for the moment, I think this one is for you, Henri. We do see depreciation etching up quite a bit lately.

That has not so much to do with your capital expenditure in tangible and intangible assets, but much more to the lease liabilities. Could you provide some guidance for this year, what we should expect for CapEx and lease liabilities and depreciation?

Henri de Pater

If you're talking about the depreciation, indeed, if you compare that with a year ago, an increase, but that was also based upon temporary site accommodations, which were required by the client, and causing a higher depreciation and is a specific element in our energy sector. We are expecting for 2026, if you're talking about CapEx, more or less similar numbers like we are now reporting for 2025, and the same for ROU as well.

Martijn Verbeek

Thank you.

Martijn den Drijver

Good morning. Martijn den Draak for ABN AMRO.

I would like to start off, as I usually do, with the guidance. You mention in the press release earnings visibility continues to improve, solid high-quality bidding pipeline, continued discipline.

If I take out the claim settlements in Germany, your EBITDA margin was closer to 6% than the reported 5.7%. I was wondering, what is keeping you from providing an update on your medium-term targets?

Is that the usual underpromise, overdeliver BAM strategy, or are there other elements at play?

Ruud Joosten

No, that is clearly part of it, eh. We like to be very predictable in that sense on how we communicate, especially at the beginning of the year.

Normally in this meeting, we are always a bit cautious on giving an outlook for the whole year. Then during the year, based on performance, we will give you more detail in the outlook.

That's what we do every year, and in that sense, we like to be predictable going forward. On the other hand, is indeed we are in the last year of a three-year strategic cycle, where we promised the market a 4% to 6% margin window and a more than €6 billion company.

In 2025, we delivered already €7 billion and almost the 6%. That brings us into the situation where we have to rethink strategy going forward, and that's what we are doing now.

Probably by the end of the year, early '26, there will be a new strategic window announced to the markets, with our new strategic financial targets for the market as well, including capital allocation, strategy for the years to come. We try to stick to that kind of rhythm, every three-year let's say an updated strategy.

Of course, we're happy to see that we already touched our targets in 2025, but it's no reason now to jump to conclusions for this year. We are rethinking our strategy.

It is working over the last couple of years with big improvement. Also happy to see that our shareholders are profiting from that too, eh, with the biggest increase, the most successful share in the MidCap last year, I think.

They are seeing that this strategy is working. Of course, we try to in that sense, underpromise and overdeliver again also for the next phase of the strategy, but we're doing our homework for that right now.

Martijn den Drijver

Got it. Then my second question is on BAM Construct UK.

Would you be willing to share, if you take out the facility management part and the property development part, what roughly you can use ranges, Henk, if you like, on how that unit has performed in 2025 relative to 2024? Just so we can get a bit more clarity there.

Henri de Pater

Back in the days, in the first half of 2025, we already achieved a result, a positive result, in that Construct UK arena. In the second half of 2025, it improved further.

If you take out the revenue related to facility management and also the EBITDA part of that, then the difference is roughly 0.2%. That means that Construct UK on its own is already delivering a very strong result, and we are expecting a further improvement in 2026 as well.

Martijn den Drijver

That is indeed a strong performance. Just one follow-up, a tiny one, on Maarten's question.

I think this settlement in Germany was the final one, right? With this settlement, the whole BAM Germany warranty element is gone?

Ruud Joosten

There were two settlements. It was related to an old project like we discussed and also explained in the first half of 2025.

The second one was indeed related to BAM Deutschland as an entity, and that was the so-called SPA share result mechanism together with the buyer. Then there is still a receivable in our balance sheet, which is also explained and disclosed in our annual report, which we are discussing with the customer from back in the days in terms to solve that topic as well.

Martijn den Drijver

Got it. Okay.

Then on the Civil UK performance, maybe we've gotten a little bit too enthusiastic, but I was wondering if you could clarify why the EBITDA margin actually performed the way it did. Because the UK civil engineering market is quite buoyant, but yet the EBITDA margin declined year on year.

Can you explain that to us, what happened there?

Ruud Joosten

I can start. Maybe you can help me,

Martijn den Drijver

Henk.

Ruud Joosten

Sorry for that. No, I was just saying it has to do with the phasing of big projects.

In '24, we had some finalization in the mix more than in '25, where we started up some of these bigger projects. Then you can see that in the finalization of a project, normally the margin goes up, and in the beginning, there's a more conservative look at these projects.

In the mix, it looks like a negative development, which is absolutely not true, because we see in the order book going forward an increase in margin for these projects. That's how we in IFRS used to let's say estimate these results of these projects.

I see a fantastic revenue growth over the last three, four years. I think it doubled the business almost, the Civil Engineering UK, it's a star performer in the group.

I think that's a bit the explanation. Henri, I'm looking to you as well whether

Henri de Pater

No, I think, Ruud, that's the complete story. Indeed, really pleased also with the developments over there as well.

The difference between 2024 and 2025 is roughly €10 million on that high level of revenue. That's quite normal and normal pattern also in this business.

Martijn den Drijver

Okay. Got it.

Then one question on industrialization, BAM Wonen, BAM Flow. The first part of that question is, did it contribute positively to EBITDA in 2025?

My second question is, how should we think about that activity going forward?

Ruud Joosten

I think in all honesty, that is still a development let's say part of the strategy. We started up the factory late '24, I think, we were really in the market in '25 for the first time with, I'd say, real homes.

It's not an EBITDA contributor at this moment in time. That will take probably this year to get to that kind of numbers.

You need to, of course, also convince the market that these are fantastic homes to live in. We had now several people living in these homes, and they're pretty excited about it.

It takes some time in the country where people are very much used to concrete and stone houses. Of course, you need to takes some time to change that kind of conservative if you can call it like that, attitude towards these houses.

We are convinced that these houses are, let's say, more convenient to live in from an atmosphere point of view. It takes some time.

It's not, let's say, financially a big issue. Of course, we want to make it EBITDA-plus as soon as possible.

For the long term, it's really important to build this more sustainable homes that indeed take out CO2 from the air instead of emitting CO2 into the air. I think that is a big opportunity.

Of course, we're not the only ones in the market to do that. Together, I think we will develop that culture in a positive way and get these homes in the market as soon as possible.

Martijn den Drijver

Just one short follow-up. Is there any other industrialization plan ongoing that we should be aware of?

Ruud Joosten

I think it's a broader item in all construction. Also looking at non-residential, you see that more and more, let's say, parts of the building are industrialized and coming from factories before they are installed into, for example, the new ABN AMRO office that you saw in September.

You see parts of that coming from suppliers from their factories directly. It can also has to do with all kind of cables, for example, cable channels that come from factories.

You don't see that, but that is all industrialized. It comes, let's say, ready-made into the building and is then installed.

This is a more broader development also in infrastructure, apart from only the wooden homes.

Martijn den Drijver

That's it for now. Thank you.

Simon van Oppen

Good morning. Simon van Oppen, Kepler Cheuvreux.

I have a follow-up question on Construct UK. Good development there, and you mentioned project selectivity.

Could you please give some more color on what drove this strong development also in terms of project selectivity, and how that is progressing into 2026?

Ruud Joosten

Let's say after the disappointing results earlier '23, '24, we decided to reshape the strategy for Construct UK, cost-wise, but also strategy-wise, much more focused on, for example, education and healthcare in the UK and go for mid-sized projects with now and then, let's say, a special in the commercial field. That portfolio is now much more clear where to go for.

Luckily, UK government is investing heavily in these frameworks, as we call them, for healthcare and education, where we are, let's say, participating in for the long term. It's partly looking for that new portfolio that gives us the trust and confidence that margins will go up in the near future.

It was also, let's say, finalizing some, let's say, legacy projects that we still had, where Co-op Live, I think, was by far the most important one. Now, that combination of, yeah, profitable projects, cost drive, and ending Co-op Live led to the performance in 2025.

You see indeed, like Henri is saying, an improvement in the second half of the year, indeed getting to a more normal profitability already in the second half, and we trust that that will then increase in this year as well.

Simon van Oppen

Could you share roughly how much education and healthcare within Construct UK makes up of, that specific division, or what you are targeting to achieve?

Ruud Joosten

I don't think we have that percentage on hand. We have to look that up.

Henri de Pater

I think it's mainly, looking back, education at this moment in time, and some commercial builds.

Simon van Oppen

Thank you.

Leontien de Waal

Good morning. Leontien van der Waal, ABN AMRO.

A few questions from my side. First one is defense and energy security opportunities.

You mentioned them both for UK and the Netherlands. Are there any difference in, I would say, margin perspective concerning those opportunities?

Ruud Joosten

Difficult to say. I think the defense is probably a different segment than the energy security segment of our market.

In defense, is also a very wide range of activities. I think there's still a lot of development to do to get that really developed by governments and bring it to the market.

We're already doing some important jobs in the defense sector, for example, the new head office of the Belgium army in Brussels near the NATO building. We are building together with others, it's a €350 million building.

That can also be, indeed, investment in infrastructure can also have now a defense kind of character as well. It can also be a hangar for planes.

It's a very wide range. It's also housing for soldiers, something that was neglected by governments for decades, and now we need huge investments to get that to, let's say, an acceptable level for people to live in.

Margin-wise, of course, we will be very critical there as well, and have yeah, let's say the same kind of criteria for margin as for other projects. I'm pretty positive there that especially when there is speed required, yeah, then also we need to see the let's say margins linked with that in our portfolio.

In the energy transition segment, yeah, we see good margins, because the parties, our customers there, they see how scarce our capabilities and skills are, and are willing to come to realistic pricing if they can trust our delivery. That's the same in the UK as in the Netherlands.

Leontien de Waal

Yeah. There are no big differences in the margin potential considering the two regions?

There are no big differences.

Ruud Joosten

No, I don't think so. I don't think so.

I think it's the same. You see the same kind of project.

It's very nice to see, for example, that National Grid, which is a kind of TenneT for the Dutch-speaking audience, comparing to TenneT in the Netherlands, yeah, we are doing for them the same project as we do for TenneT, for National Grid, so, for example, a land station bringing energy from the sea, wind energy, to consumers on land. These projects are, let's say, copies of each other, and very nice to see that now we brought these companies together with our teams, to learn and to get some synergy from these projects.

I don't see a big difference in margins now.

Leontien de Waal

Thank you. Maybe to stick to grid congestion a bit concerning your property development portfolio in the Netherlands, how much of the development portfolio is impacted by grid congestion, and especially as there was a huge message from TenneT last week concerning three provinces in the Netherlands, and acute stop was communicated to happen maybe this summer,

Ruud Joosten

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Leontien de Waal

the start of this summer. How does this affect your property development portfolio?

Ruud Joosten

I think it's a very valid point. That's one, we also have the nitrogen issue as well in the Netherlands.

These are things that are not helping. As in BAM, we see it like that, there could be a huge acceleration of home building in the Netherlands if these things were not there.

Everybody wants that acceleration, and of course, that would be very profitable for companies like BAM if that would happen. We are pushing and pulling and trying to drive this, let's say, decisiveness in provinces, in communities, but also on national level to take these barriers out of the way.

It's a pretty complex game in solving nitrogen, solving the congestion. In solving congestion, of course, BAM can play a role, we are doing that in several regions.

Again, it needs central direction, I think, to make this happen. I don't see it as a, let's say, major issue for our actual numbers, but it would be very good, of course, for acceleration of our numbers.

That's more, I think, how also, yeah, together with our partners in the market and our competitors in the market, we're looking at this. If you want to build more homes, You have to have some decisive action, because you can talk about regions where you need acceleration or breakthrough areas or all kind of building tent cities, but it's easy to say that, but to have the real central direction and government decisions to make it happen, including nitrogen, including congestion, including necessary infrastructure to these homes, yeah, that takes a lot of different decision-making, I think.

That's over the last years not happening in the Netherlands.

Leontien de Waal

It's a complex issue. Could you give an indication which percentage of your property development portfolio is related to those provinces in the Netherlands who are impacted most at the moment?

Ruud Joosten

That's difficult, because you indeed, you have the nitrogen issue, you have the congestion issue. Of course, we try to then balance that out.

If we see issues there with these two elements, we try to rebalance the portfolio into different directions to still deliver this kind of numbers. Till now, that works.

That works out fine. For '26, that will work out fine.

Longer term, of course, these issues need to be solved. Of course, we're hoping that the new government will take decisive action there as soon as possible.

Ministers will be appointed on Monday, I think, let's see what happens.

Leontien de Waal

Last question from my side. You mentioned high activity level of non-residential activities in the Netherlands especially.

In the outlook for 2026, you use the words "cautiously optimistic." Could you elaborate a bit on the non-residential opportunities in the Netherlands?

What kind of segments? Will it be new build?

Will it be renovation?

Ruud Joosten

You saw that over the last couple of years, it was very difficult for the office market, for example, was really, really difficult, zero activity or almost zero activity. There, we see cautiously some activity coming back to the markets, to the Dutch market anyhow, but also in London, we see the same issue, which is positive.

That's why we cautiously optimistic about some investments, also from institutional investors in non-residential. In '25, we had a very good year based on a very good portfolio in the Netherlands.

We see some good wins there as well, for example, with the SAKX, for example, in Rotterdam, which is also in non-residential, but it is in a way residential as well, because there are 900 apartments in that building. Also some other wins, and some possible wins that we see in our agenda.

We see kind of positive development in 2026 for non-residential as well in the Netherlands. In the UK, indeed, based on our participation in the frameworks, we're also having a very positive or very cautiously positive view on UK non-residential.

Leontien de Waal

Thank you.

Derek van Overbeek

Derek Verbiesen, ING. Question on the outlook and the property development in the Netherlands.

Maybe let's say 2,000 houses sold in '25 was a bit of a normalized number. As you said, a few hundred were sold to investors in the later part of the year.

Is taking that as a base for '26 in your outlook, what do you expect in number of houses sold as an assumption in that? Also on average price sold, '25 versus '24, and what do you see in that trend looking at the project pipeline?

Ruud Joosten

Difficult indeed, because these things are heavily impacted by the mix of homes and deals with investors that can make a difference of hundreds of homes. We're cautiously optimistic there as well, looking at you as well, Henri, for this year.

With the number reached over '25, looking at developments over the next couple of months, I don't see a big difference there in prices of these homes in '26 as well, there I see still positive developments looking at pricing in the market. The number, yeah, probably better to after Q1 look at that and give you a better idea on that one.

Is it normalized? Strategy is anyhow to increase the number of home sales for BAM, eh.

That's why we do the property investments. How it exactly will turn out in '26 for me at this moment in time, I don't know.

Derek van Overbeek

No, indeed, I think it's not needed to deduct all kind of one-offs from the sold houses in 2025, see it as a normal fair. Okay.

Maybe then on the energy transition, National Grid and TenneT, can you share what kind of revenues you are realizing in those, let's say, specific segments, as it also looks very promising and maybe for the next decade-plus? What do you realize in those fields currently?

Ruud Joosten

That's really a valid question, eh. If you are looking through the lenses of sustainability projects, then roughly 15% of the revenue currently is related to those kind of topics.

We are moving much faster in that direction, which is really helpful, also taking into account that that's really profitable and helpful also to drive our EBITDA in the right direction as well.

Derek van Overbeek

Then on the legacy projects, yeah, you mentioned some specifics on the children's hospital and sections being delivered to the customer in the coming weeks, I think, even. Can you remind me when should it be fully completed and delivered?

Ruud Joosten

We mentioned first half of the year. Before summer, we need to deliver the whole hospital.

We want to deliver the whole hospital. Sixth floor has been delivered to the customer, and that's really helpful, because then they can fit it out with their beds, but also very high-tech equipment that they're now, let's say, bringing into the hospital, which is really positive.

They're very excited about the building, it's pretty high quality, which is good to say after many, many years of construction. The good news is indeed that handing over and commissioning is now in process.

I think that's an important step.

Derek van Overbeek

In financial terms, there was no negative impact anymore in '20 over the course of '25? Okay.

Ruud Joosten

No, we settled, maybe you remember, that claim somewhere in 2024, and the result at this moment in time is stable.

Derek van Overbeek

Then the Fehmarnbelt, yeah, because it's such a recurring topic, can you give some more details? You said, yeah, we are in discussions, we have 12.2% in the consortium, first elements are completed or delivered.

Where are you in this process on the construction side and also in the discussions with the client?

Ruud Joosten

I think that's absolutely true. I think we, since couple of years, we're pretty transparent on this legacy portfolio we still have from the past.

Probably 5 years ago, we had something like 23 of these projects on the agenda, we had long discussions with you guys all the time about all these projects. This year, it's very important, indeed, like National Children's Hospital will be delivered to the customer.

We have still the Brisbane project, where we deliver a metro system to the city of Brisbane in Australia. That will be delivered in, well, let's say first half year '27, I have to be careful.

Also in the last phase of the project. Then remaining is the famous Fehmarnbelt tunnel between Denmark and Germany.

Very complex, huge project. We have 12%, a little bit more.

Indeed, like with all these big projects, yeah, we are in constant discussion with the customer on how to proceed and how to look at risks and how to look at the timing of the project. Today, we see the first immersion planned for first half year, we're now preparing everything to make that happen together with local authorities.

I think that's a big moment if that happens. That proves as well that this whole system can work.

Then for the next 4 years, this project will be part of these meetings, because there is something like a 4 years planning to immerse all the 92 elements of the tunnel, resulting in an 18-kilometer tunnel between the two countries.

Derek van Overbeek

Let's say, discussions with the clients on finding a solution in those 4 years, or what should we expect for that?

Ruud Joosten

Probably, you will have these discussions throughout the whole project. Of course, what we try to do is to work together and get this as efficient as possible into the sea.

It's pretty complex, and many, many elements are linked to this from a sustainability point of view, from a planning point of view. You have the German government, you have the Danish government.

It's pretty complex. Not many tunnels like this were immersed in the world of this size.

I expect this to be, let's say, highly on my list of activity for the next 4 years.

Derek van Overbeek

Okay. Maybe to round up, in your order book of €13 billion, what is the amount of the legacy portfolio?

Ruud Joosten

Looking at you as well, Henk, but it's pretty small, I think.

Henri de Pater

Pretty small, eh. As already said by Ruud, Brisbane is mostly done, eh.

If you're talking about the delivering of that metro, that's still about commissioning, the construction work is done. No big amounts left there.

Then still, eh, that 12.2% stake related to FLC.

Derek van Overbeek

You can't say in the euro million terms what is

Henri de Pater

No, not talking about numbers.

Ruud Joosten

I think far below the 10%.

Derek van Overbeek

Far below 10%. Okay.

Yeah. Children's hospital is also close to, eh?

Yeah.

Henri de Pater

That building is already, as explained, complete. It's about commissioning, the construction work is done.

Derek van Overbeek

Okay.

Henri de Pater

Facing over such a hospital is a journey, you need more time to deliver all those floors. Also the remaining part in our order book is really limited.

Derek van Overbeek

Thank you.

Martijn den Drijver

Martijn den Draak for ABN AMRO with a few follow-ups. The guys asked some pretty specific questions, I'm going to continue a little bit on that front.

Completion of the children's hospital and commissioning and transfer, should we read that as a final settlement is also quite near, or can those discussions, mediation, or perhaps even arbitration linger on, continue a bit longer than the official handover? How should we think about that?

Henri de Pater

Normalized in such a case, you deliver the hospital, and then there is a final moment in terms of building up your total documentation, your final account. Then we need to submit it to the client, and then there's at least 2 to 4 months discussion about, eh, the content, all those kind of stuff.

Then still the question how to move forward, eh. Do we have then a final settlement, or is there still a kind of a conciliation part of that process ongoing as well?

Martijn den Drijver

Okay. Taking that into account, that dialogue is still constructive?

Henri de Pater

It's

Martijn den Drijver

not like now that completion is nearing that parties are taking perhaps a stricter stance given the

Henri de Pater

It's always strict, eh, there's quite a legal component part of that as well, but it's still constructive.

Martijn den Drijver

Got it. Then on the tunnel, I understand your cautiousness, Ruud, but the way I read it is that if you can immerse, the trench issue must have been solved.

If you immerse, the client has accepted the installation vessel. Some of the hurdles must have been resolved up into the certain extent.

That doesn't mean that the discussion about potential costs related to delays have been resolved, but it seems as though things are moving in the right direction. Is that the right way to think about it, or should we really be more cautious and careful?

Ruud Joosten

Yeah. Of course, I would wish to say yes to that question, but it's pretty complicated, because the trench, of course, is also 18 kilometers.

Of course, the immersion is now on the first element is, let's say, 200 meters. There is still work to do, also on the trench, I think, going forward.

I don't think that's impossible to do, but I'm cautious because of yeah, technicalities are complex on that trench, and let's see what happens when we start to immerse more elements. It's an important moment, I fully agree with you.

Of course, if that works, then indeed, let's say, the system then proves it can work. That is important for all of us, I think, yeah.

Martijn den Drijver

I know that VINCI is the lead contractor within FLC. Are you, as BAM, consulted on every step, on every discussion that you're having with Femern A/S or even the Danish government?

Ruud Joosten

Absolutely.

Martijn den Drijver

Okay.

Ruud Joosten

I'm personally involved there yeah, to a large extent, yeah.

Martijn den Drijver

Moving on. On your trade working capital, if the proportion of non-resi is moving in the right direction, and your infrastructure projects and the grid-related is moving in the right direction, what would be a normal guidance then for trade working capital?

I would assume that it actually becomes more negative.

Henri de Pater

We are really happy with the current status, and also, as already said, the fact that we are now stable for 2 years in a row, and expecting for the upcoming period roughly minus 12% as a kind of a proxy. I think that's still a healthy number relating to this type of business.

Martijn den Drijver

No major movements at that level. Got it.

Then my final question, I couldn't derive the actual amount of the restructuring charge. Was it a material amount in 2025 restructuring charge?

Henri de Pater

No, a very small number.

Martijn den Drijver

Then I'm going to ask what it is about.

Henri de Pater

No,

Martijn den Drijver

negligible. Got it.

Thank you. Maarten

Derek van Overbeek

Derek here. Follow-up from my side.

You have signed a cooperation agreement with Rolls-Royce SMR for UK and for the Netherlands. Why have you not signed an agreement, a global agreement, to offer your services?

What has now become with Holtec also joining this market arena, has that become a threat to you that they might take business outside of the Netherlands and the UK?

Martijn Verbeek

No. We have a very specific role in that group of companies.

We deliver a patented structure that is necessary or that has the function of protecting the build-up of the reactor. That's our contribution to this whole system, which then will be removed when the final structure is there.

That's the only thing we do in this system, and that's why we were selected by Rolls-Royce to be part of this. There will be other people involved in the total set of things that are necessary to build a reactor like that, but we are the partner for that part of the construction.

Derek van Overbeek

Only for the UK and for the Netherlands? Or have you signed a new agreement that you will service them throughout Europe?

Ruud Joosten

No, that's still not clear, to be honest. I think we are still in the phase of getting some evidence that this can work, there are discussions on building a few of these reactors in the UK and some of them in Europe.

It's also a strategic decision we have to take further on for ourselves, eh, because we have a very clear strategy to focus on the UK, Ireland, the Netherlands, and Belgium. Any movement outside these regions will be an important decision we have to take.

Derek van Overbeek

I understand, but this is really one specific product which you build and then, yeah, remove or how to say, démontage or, but you can build up somewhere else in Europe as well. For example, now in Czech Republic, they most likely will build the first one.

To have a head start, I would presume that it would be very attractive to service

Ruud Joosten

That is true. I think it's a repeatable model.

Again, I think we are more focused now in getting these things on the road, to show on the road to say it maybe with some disrespect, because these are nuclear reactors, this is not an easy product, of course. I think it's really important to have some evidence that this can work as soon as possible, I think especially for the UK government as well, where we will be the partner.

I think there is time enough for us to think about, let's say, strategies outside our core markets.

Derek van Overbeek

That's

Ruud Joosten

really not for tomorrow.

Derek van Overbeek

No, no, no, no, no, but we're also looking at the long term for BAM. Holtec, might that become then a competitor in this respect?

Ruud Joosten

That depends then on the very long-term discussions on implementation outside our core activities. I don't know.

We have the patent on this system, we have in our hands to make that decision strategically going forward.

Michel Aupers

Okay. Maybe final question?

Yes, please.

Martijn den Drijver

Two. Again, Martijn den Draak for ABN AMRO.

If you take €7 billion as a basis, 6% EBITDA, roughly €400 million in EBITDA, you take out €80 million CapEx, €100 million in leases, €60 million in taxes, you add back some trade working capital flow in, not assuming any M&A, of course, you get to a free cash flow of roughly €200 million. The real question is, why are you so careful with the share buyback?

Why just €40 million? Your balance sheet can bear much more than that, and you can even do that on an annual basis if the market continues to operate at this level, or you improve.

How did you get to the €40 million?

Henri de Pater

As already alluded to, eh, also in previous meetings, we do have our capital allocation strategy, which is built upon four pillars, looking to our solvency, also our equipment, what is needed to improve our equipment. It's about M&A activities, land bank, and indeed, the dividends and share buyback.

If you look to the total of dividend and share buyback, it's a similar figure compared with a year ago in total and paying 55%. About the acquisition with regard to Blokland, which we are going to organize in the remaining part of this year.

We need a bit more flexibility also for land bank acquisitions as well. I think it's not really a cautious approach.

I think it's a very how do you say that, realistic approach.

Martijn den Drijver

Okay. Got it.

Then just a final, almost bookkeeping question. Provisions and pensions resulted in a positive cash inflow in 2025.

How is that possible? What did you provision for?

Henri de Pater

Looking to the provisions, we see an increase, not using it at this moment in time. That has mainly to do with the fact that our revenue, as already said, grew over time, I think in the last 2 years roughly 12%, meaning your normal warranty related to our obligations with regard to our built environment is also growing as well, and we're not utilizing it.

Martijn den Drijver

Got it. Thank you.

Michel Aupers

Maybe, yeah, Derek, the final question, yeah?

Derek van Overbeek

On the Fehmarnbelt, just for my understanding, the work that you've done over the past period and, let's say, the revenues recognition, of course, is there, but in terms of billing and cash payments by your client, are you on track, or is there a significant amount stuck in work in progress because of the ongoing discussions?

Ruud Joosten

We never go into details on specifics on projects. That's our normal policy, but it's also out of respect for our JV partners and our customer and the negotiations we are in or discussions we are in.

Maybe later we can come back to this one, but for now, we don't go into the specifics of this project.

Derek van Overbeek

Maybe as a last one, the €13 billion order book now versus the €13 billion last year, do you sleep better because of the €13 billion as it is today in terms of quality and visibility that you have?

Ruud Joosten

I sleep better because we had a revenue of €7 billion. If you look at the €13 billion, you have a revenue of €7 billion, and you have again €13 billion, that's pretty good performance.

Derek van Overbeek

In terms of overall quality?

Ruud Joosten

You see the quality improving margin-wise slowly but steadily, and of course, people expect that to grow maybe even faster. These are thousands of projects.

To get the whole chain of margins up, yeah, it's a long-term game. It's a marathon.

Steadily but slowly, we see that improving, less risk, higher margin, coming through the P&L. That's how we play this game.

Derek van Overbeek

Thank you.

Simon van Oppen

One last question, please. Simon van Oppen, Kepler Cheuvreux.

I was wondering on your, let's say, recurring business, long-term maintenance contracts, can you share roughly for the Netherlands, but also UK and Ireland, how much of your revenues is related to more recurring revenues?

Ruud Joosten

More and more, we see of course, like in the facility management, you have long-term contracts, there it's easily to calculate. More and more in all our other businesses, like civil engineering, for example, you see that we have long-term relationships with, for example, SSE in Scotland and with TenneT in the Netherlands.

Is that recurring revenue in definition? For us, it almost is, because we see already the pipeline for the next 5 to 10 years.

Same with companies like Enexis, for example, in the Netherlands and the local energy providers. We also have 10-year kind of contracts.

In Construct UK, you see more and more that our business is in education, like Henri is saying, these are frameworks. Is it recurring?

From a definition point of view, we can debate. In that framework, we see, for 7 years for example, business coming to us, not per default, but it happens like that, of course.

More and more, let's say, our business is in a long-term kind of approach. Also, the number of customers is decreasing all the time, we're focusing on less customers with long-term frameworks or long-term contracts.

Sometimes we have, yeah, a one-off project. That can happen.

We are not against it. Strategy is to work within these frameworks and have, let's say, fewer customers with long-term relationships.

The percentage, well, I think it's already a big percentage of our revenue today. I don't have it behind the comma, but

Henri de Pater

That's a bit depending upon the definition, of course,

Ruud Joosten

but

Henri de Pater

I think in the meantime quite a significant number. Okay.

Simon van Oppen

Thank you very much.

Operator

Okay. Thank you very much.

Ladies and gentlemen, this brings the meeting to an end. We hope to welcome you in the near future.

Thank you, and have a good day.