Iris Eveleigh
Good morning, everyone. Dear analysts and investors, a warm welcome from my side to our first quarter 2026 earnings call.
I'm here with our CFO, Nadia Jakobi, who will present our results. As always, we will leave enough room for your questions at the end.
With that, over to you, Nadia.
Nadia Jakobi
Thank you, Iris, and a warm welcome from my side as well. Only 2.5 months ago, we presented our full-year 2025 results to you and updated our outlook until 2030.
Today, I'll give you an update how we performed in the first quarter. The last months have been marked by a volatile macro environment caused by geopolitical turmoil.
The ongoing US-Iran tensions drive commodity prices higher and increase market volatility. Our results demonstrate our ability to effectively and successfully deal with market turbulence, as we have shown before during the COVID and the energy crisis caused by the Ukraine war.
The resilience and defensiveness of our unique business model positions us as a safe haven in an increasingly volatile world. Most of our EBITDA is generated in regulated energy networks, where earnings are largely protected against volume and price risks.
Strong secular growth trends make us nearly independent of economic cycles. Our predominantly European supplier base and procurement levers are largely unaffected by US tariff developments.
Around 98% of our supply spending is within Europe. Our energy infrastructure business is supported by long-term contracts and price adjustment mechanisms, which provide inflation protection and commodity price pass-throughs.
For our energy retail business, we have a robust risk management framework and hedging regime in place, and have no direct exposure to the Middle East or any directly affected market. Before I move to our Q1 results, I would also like to share a few words on our Ovo acquisition, which was announced on Monday.
This transaction provides us with a unique opportunity to acquire a highly synergistic portfolio. It represents a highly complementary fit to our existing UK business.
We see three key value drivers. The combination will allow us to drive material economies of scale by optimizing customer operations and offering innovative products to a broader customer base.
It strengthens our UK market position and enables further development of a customer-centric and digital energy business. Customers are increasingly expecting simple, digital, sustainable, and affordable energy solutions.
This transaction strengthens our ability to deliver exactly that at scale. From a financial perspective, the transaction supports our long-term earnings growth and cash generation.
It creates additional financial headroom to further support our investment capacity in regulated networks and delivers a positive EPS impact. We've approached this transaction with clear financial discipline and a strong focus on integration planning from day one.
With our track record of turning around underperforming UK businesses, we possess the necessary knowledge and capabilities to carry it through successfully. We are excited about the opportunities ahead and are confident that this combination will create long-term value for our customers and shareholders.
That said, let me now turn to our results for the first quarter of this year with my four key messages. First, E.ON delivered a strong operational and financial performance, which puts us firmly on track to achieve our full-year guidance.
Our adjusted EBITDA reached €3.3 billion, and our adjusted net income came in at around €1.3 billion. This links into my second message: our growth trajectory is progressing well.
Our investments continue to materially exceed depreciation. Most of our investments are allocated to our German power networks business to further enhance the energy transition.
Third, our balance sheet remains strong. Economic net debt of around €46 billion in the first quarter reflects the typical Q1 cash flow seasonality, driven by the working capital pattern of our business model.
Finally, we fully confirm our guidance, including our dividend policy. Let us move on to our Q1 year-over-year adjusted EBITDA bridge.
Starting with energy networks, adjusted EBITDA was broadly stable year-over-year. Continued investments in our regulated asset base supported earnings growth across all business regions.
This was offset by negative structural effects, mainly from deconsolidating one of our regional utility participations in Germany, NEW AG, and the sale of our Czech gas networks business. In addition, we saw higher costs to support the continuous expansion of our networks business.
We have continued our track record of operational excellence even as network complexity has increased significantly. Beginning of this month, Germany experienced exceptionally high solar generation.
A peak generation of around 46 GW coincided with low holiday demand of only around 43 GW. This led to prolonged periods of sharply negative power prices, at times reaching almost -€500 per megawatt hour.
In these challenging conditions of high system volatility, all of our DSOs were able to maintain full system stability. This effort was also recognized positively by the regulator.
Moving on to our energy infrastructure solutions business, here we have seen positive earnings effects from the commissioning of new projects and the pass-through of higher procurement costs related to previous years. In energy retail, we delivered a strong first quarter.
We saw a slight earnings increase in Q1, driven by temporary effects from phasing of price adjustments in our German business, which we expect to normalize over the course of the year. In addition, the performance of our UK B2B business has continued to normalize as expected.
Our adjusted net income came in as expected at around €1.3 billion. All P&L items below adjusted EBITDA developed in line with our expectations in Q1.
Looking ahead, the current development in adjusted net income is expected to be offset over the course of the year by higher interest expenses. As stated in February, we expect an increase in interest expenses this year, driven by higher net debt levels from ongoing investments and higher refinancing costs for maturing low-coupon bonds.
A portion of this is already visible in Q1. Overall, we remain well on track to achieve our full-year adjusted net income 2026 guidance.
Looking at the development of our economic net debt, I would like to highlight four key points. First, our promised investment growth trajectory is progressing, and we are well on track to deliver our full-year target.
Second, the negative operating cash flow in the first quarter reflects the typical seasonal working capital pattern of our business and is expected to reverse over the course of the year. Third, we are well advanced in executing our 2026 funding plan.
Ahead of recent market volatility, we secured €1.6 billion in the Eurobond market and a further €1.4 billion from investors outside the Eurobond market, even during the volatile period. This brings us to total funding of €3 billion at attractive spreads, covering more than half of our 2026 requirements and underlining both the resilience and increasing diversification of our funding base.
Finally, our balance sheet remains strong, and we continue to see substantial extra balance sheet capacity over the guidance horizon. This has just been confirmed yesterday by S&P and Fitch while affirming our BBB+ ratings with stable outlook.
Let me conclude today's presentation with my key takeaways. First, we delivered the first quarter as promised, even against the backdrop of geopolitical uncertainty and elevated market volatility.
The strong Q1 outturn firmly supports our expected guidance delivery for 2026. Second, our growth trajectory, especially in power networks, is progressing well and continues to drive the energy transition in Europe.
Third, our balance sheet remains strong. We will continue to focus on delivering an attractive total shareholder return based on value-creative organic growth and an annually growing dividend per share.
Finally, we fully confirm our full-year 2026 guidance and 2030 outlook. With that, back to you, Iris.
Iris Eveleigh
Thank you, Nadia. With that, we will start our Q&A session.
Let me remind you all that you please stick to two questions each. With that, the first question comes from Julius Nickelson from Bank of America.
Hi, Julius.
Julius Nickelson
Hi there. Thanks so much for the presentation.
My two questions, the first one is on Ovo. You said that the deal will be EPS accretive by 2030.
Could you maybe shed a little bit more light in the earlier years? Is there any adjustment necessary to the intermediate 2028 targets, so that would be useful?
Then the second one is on German regulation, specifically the OPEX adjustment factor paper, which came out in April. Would you say that this document materially increases your visibility on regulation now, or there are still missing pieces?
Or put the question another way, are you internally now able to quantify the impact of this factor, or there is still some missing pieces that you would need to actually have, it depends on what it could do to your number? Thank you.
Nadia Jakobi
Hi, Julius. Thanks for the questions.
Let me highlight again, we are very happy to have been able to conclude this transaction. I will give you a bit more insight into the earnings impact.
Over the overall guidance period, the cumulative ANI impact is broadly neutral, while we especially expect 2028 to be negatively impacted by integration and restructuring expenses. Then ANI contribution will be then positive from 2029 onwards.
The last guidance year, as we have already highlighted before, 2030, we'll see a high double-digit million positive impact. Let me maybe briefly explain why that is.
We have this time very consciously decided to not put restructuring expenses into non-operating earnings, but include that in our operating results. Secondly, also with regards to purchase price allocation effects from the depreciation from the customer book, that is also included—
Julius Nickelson
Hello? Seems like you dropped out there, Nadja.
Nadia Jakobi
I dropped out? Since when?
Can you hear me now, Julius? Can you hear
Julius Nickelson
me? Yes, maybe it was just me, but I couldn't hear anything for the last 30 seconds.
It wasn't just you.
Nadia Jakobi
Okay. Then if it was everybody, I will just start again and say, okay, look, total guidance period, cumulative ANI impact is broadly neutral.
2028 specifically will be affected by integration and restructuring expenses. ANI and EPS will be positive from 2029 onwards, and then we will reach in 2030 an ANI impact of a high double-digit million euro impact.
Reason, and now we have reasons for why that is sort of negatively affected in 2028, is because we have consciously decided not to put the restructuring expenses into non-operating earnings, but leave that in the operational result. Second point is that from the purchase price allocation, we expect a depreciation of the customer book, which will be also affecting the results.
Then going over to OPEX factor. Yes, you are right, Julius.
We received in April, BNetzA has published some information, which is not legally binding. Generally, it's a good instrument, which we welcome.
It's also good, and previously discussed, there were thresholds for the OPEX adjustment factor that are now no longer discussed. What we are critical about is that the current paper foresees an introduction of a two-year time lag for recognizing the OPEX adjustment factor that deviates from the original proposal and from our perspective lacks any economic justification.
You asked then about, can we now calculate it already? That is currently not the case from what we see here.
The mechanism is very closely linked to benchmarking, and the final shape depends on the benchmarking results. Of course, the benchmarking results will be only available in 2028.
The main key parameters remain uncertain, and that's why, at this point in time, we are not able to assess the financial impact from the OPEX adjustment factor.
Julius Nickelson
Great. Thank you.
Iris Eveleigh
Thank you, Julius. With that, we come to the next question from Harry Wyburd from Exane.
Hi, Harry.
Harry Wyburd
Hi. Hi, Iris.
Hi, everyone. Hi, Nadia.
Two two for me, firstly another one on Ovo. Can we just talk a bit about the balance sheet rationale?
For me, it's not a deal I would have expected you to do because you're so focused on the core distribution business in Germany, and there's headroom to raise CapEx there. Why did you do this deal?
Was it just too good to pass up? Did you feel like your procurement operation gave you some kind of advantage?
Just why this deal now? Does it preserve your 5 to 10 billion of spare balance sheet headroom, or is it even accretive to that, or does it affect in any way your ability to raise CapEx on distribution later?
That's the first one. The second one is on AccelerateEU and Iran and what I think we all hope is going to be an accelerated pace of electrification as a result of all of that.
Is there any opportunity to use that as a catalyst to come to a quicker agreement on returns with the regulator, perhaps with the assistance of the government, because my perception is that we're slightly stuck in the mud for the next couple of years. You've got this trickle of OPEX adjustment factor, the gas regulatory review, but there's nothing coming up in the next 12 months, unless I'm missing something, that would be decisive and allow you to go ahead and raise your investment.
Could you go to the government or the regulator and say, "Given AccelerateEU, can you give us some early clarity, and then we can go faster?" Is that something that's plausible, or do we have to wait for a few years now to see the final CapEx on the line?
Nadia Jakobi
Thanks, Harry, for the questions. Maybe starting with the last part of the first question.
As we have indicated, this transaction will actually provide us with a headroom increase of a high three-digit million euro impact and, therefore, is by no means restricting any investment in the regulated asset base, but exactly the opposite. It is a rare attractive opportunity that presented itself to us to acquire a highly synergistic portfolio.
It will strengthen our UK market position and will enable further development of a customer-centric and increasingly digital energy business. There is really the synergy case that we are after.
We have the retail business for its earnings generation, but also very much for its cash flow contribution. This deal will actually enhance the cash flow contribution and, therefore, will be very positive for further growth in the infrastructure business.
Second point on AccelerateEU grid package, maybe coming to the last part of the question. My judgment would be that it's a good thing.
Whether this will now swing the needle in German regulation, who is very much on their own time schedule, I would say every little helps, but I would rather see the upward pressure from the German economy from dissolving the bottlenecks, from all the requests that we have for renewable connection, battery connection, and industry connection, and customer connection. I would rather see these bottom-up push from all our regional connection requests and also the top-down push from the German politics, i.e.
the Ministry of Economics. I would see at this point more influential for getting faster resolution on the regulation.
Overall, AccelerateEU grid package strengthens European resilience through increased incentives for further electrification, which is good and is very much aligned with our strategy to drive the electrification through Europe. We like the extension of industrial electricity pricing and electricity tax relief for customers.
We like all additional incentives for electrification because we think it's the right thing. Further details will be worked out in the coming weeks, but we think it's got a positive impact on our businesses, AccelerateEU grid package, but not an immediate impact from my perspective on the regulation.
Harry Wyburd
Thanks. Just to clarify the high triple-digit figure, are we basically saying that if it was 5 to 10 billion before, it's maybe sort of 5.8 to 10.8 now?
Is that the right way to think about it on balance sheet headroom as a result of Ovo?
Nadia Jakobi
Yes, if you may say so, that wouldn't be outside the ranges that I would have given.
Harry Wyburd
Got it. Thank you very much.
Iris Eveleigh
Thank you, Harry. With that, we come to the next question from Deepa.
Hi, Deepa.
Deepa Venkateswaran
Hi, good morning. Sorry, I'm also going to start with Ovo and then ask a boring question on the balance sheet.
On the Ovo transaction, I noted that you talked a lot about the technology stack and synergies and so on. My main question is you are using the Kraken system in the UK, Ovo has been using Kaluza, which are both apparently good and comparable.
What is your assumption on the integration because presumably you can only extract synergies if all the customers, all the 10 million customers are on the same. What is your assumption, will you move the existing E.ON customers to the Kaluza or the other way around?
What do you mean by the digital stack being attractive? That was the first question on the technology and that plan.
Second question on the balance sheet, just wanted to reconfirm that the overall cash conversion for the full year is around 100%, and would you be able to say where you expect the net debt for the year end to be? That's my second question.
Thank you.
Nadia Jakobi
As part of E.ON's acquisition of Ovo Energy, E.ON will enter into a long-term license agreement with Kaluza. As you have highlighted, Kaluza is a scalable, flexible, and proven technology platform and simplifies energy billing, reduces costs to serve, and enables faster product innovation to facilitate the energy transition.
We will conduct an objective assessment of the Kaluza platform looking at three three different perspectives: so first, as a core platform for the UK energy retail business; second, for E.ON's businesses in other international markets; and third, as modular components, i.e. Kaluza Flex.
Then when we've looked at all of that, we will then make an objective choice for E.ON UK's one single retail platform. Synergy delivery is for us agnostic of the platform choice, and as you have highlighted, we will now first assess the platform, and then we'll make a decision onto which single platform we will migrate.
Then on cash conversion, we have got the same target for cash conversion, i.e. the 100% cash conversion that we had articulated before.
Then when it comes to economic net debt, we stick to our year-end guidance of being below or at least or equal to 5.0 economic net debt. From today's perspective, I see no reason to deviate from that.
Iris Eveleigh
Thank you, Deepa. With that, we come to the next question that comes from Pavan from JPMorgan.
Hi. Good morning, and thank you for taking my question.
I just have one big-picture question, please, Nadia. Can you just give us a reminder of where we stand with the German electricity networks regulation, upcoming milestones that investors should be looking forward to, and a reminder of the outstanding, if you will, key areas of concern between E.ON and BNetzA, whether it's things on the return or other areas that you'd like to see improve before you have the clarity that you need?
Thank you.
Nadia Jakobi
Yeah. I think it's pretty much unchanged compared to what we have said at the full-year conference.
We have got now a bit more clarity on the OPEX adjustment factor, and as we highlighted, there's going to be the gas determination with a draft determination for gas in July 2026, and the final decision by the end of the year, which could provide cross-reads for power. Final clarity for the WACC for power is expected to be until end of 2027, and some of the remaining regulatory parameters like cost audit will be set in 2028.
I think we have reiterated the points in what we don't like about the current proposal and where we still have open points. Also, let me go back to what we said in Q3 and in the full year.
Seven-year look-back period without mark-to-market adjustment for cost of debt for existing assets is for us unacceptable because we cannot refinance our existing assets on that basis with a seven-year look-back period. We have a couple of parameters outstanding when it comes to the cost of equity.
Things we specifically highlighted, points around redispatch cost when it comes to the benchmarking, where we are in intensive discussions with the regulator to highlight how that is something which would give a strong disadvantage for those who are enabling the energy transition. As we indicated earlier, the overall framework must be right for us to earn our value creation spread of 150 to 200 basis points mostly over pre-tax WACC.
Basically, there is on top of the OPEX adjustment factor, where we've got some insights now, there is not more newsflow that we received in the last 2.5 months.
Iris Eveleigh
Thank you, Pavan. With that, we move on to Ahmed from Jefferies.
Hi, Ahmed.
Hi, thank you. Thank you for taking my questions.
Actually, I'm going to ask both questions on the first quarter results. My first question is you referenced phasing effects within German retail.
Could you quantify that for us as to what is the sort of the number in the first quarter for these phasing effects, and when do you expect these to reverse over the course of the year? Then my second question is just very quickly on the D&A and the interest line for the first quarter.
Can we see them as sort of good run rates for the full year, or are there any seasonality effects within or sort of adjustments within the 1Q number which we sort of need to bear in mind? Thank you.
Nadia Jakobi
Thanks, Ahmed. I think from the German retail business, the phasing effect is a mid-double-digit million euro effect, which will reverse continuously in the next three quarters, which comes through the different timing of price adjustments that we had now in Q1.
When it comes to the second question, I think on the interest line, I have alluded to that in my presentation that we will see more increases of interest expenses due to the maturing of low or very low interest bonds, which need to be refinanced, and of course, due to the growth trajectory that we are in. We also need to finance that growth on top.
I guess, on the depreciation side, you will need to take into account that we have, for example, deconsolidated NEW. We have sold our gas distribution network in Czech, and that's what's affecting the depreciation line.
Maybe just one clarification, all these deconsolidation effects are now through in the first quarter, just to check, all the effects that have come through?
Nadia Jakobi
I think when you look at the gas grid in Czech Republic, that was a sort of very low double-digit million euro EBITDA effect, what I know. Then on the NEW effect, that is approximately high double-digit million euro impact on EBITDA, if that's the question on that.
I don't now have sort of the details of the depreciation Q1 effects and that, but I guess the colleagues can come up with that.
Iris Eveleigh
Yeah. That's very clear.
Thank you.
Thank you, Ahmed.
Iris Eveleigh
With that, we move on. The next question comes from Louis from Oddo.
Hi, Louis.
Yes, hi. Good morning, and thank you for the presentation.
Maybe two questions as well here on my side, one on Ovo and one more general. I think that you mentioned that they have around 70% of customer which are on their SVT tariff.
Does it create, according to you, greater sensitivity to the future Ofgem price cap change, and how would you eventually mitigate that risk in your customer strategy going forward after this acquisition? Maybe another question, more general, you repeatedly stressed that you have a resilient business model, and I think that once again, in the first quarter, we see that it is indeed the case, with a reasonable result and a stronger performance in spite of the political and geopolitical environment.
What do you see on your side as the biggest external risk for not reaching your target in 2030 today? Thank you very much.
Nadia Jakobi
We we highlighted that 70% of the customer base of Ovo is related to SVT because it demonstrates that this is a high-quality, durable book with a strong average tenor. That was the point why why we highlighted that point.
We don't see now additional risk from from a from a from an additional price cap because the price cap is doing exactly that. It is UK price cap regulation is based on a comparatively short hedging tracker.
The the integration and the combination of the businesses will only take place once we have done the platform assessment. The Ovo customers will be continued to be supported by the current agreement, Shell agreement that they are on to get their energy procurement.
I don't see an increased risk from that. Then the second, as you highlighted, we are saying, yes, we have got a very resilient business model.
The Q1 has developed fully in line with our expectations. That's why we we have we don't see now I, from today's perspective, don't don't see big risk.
Of course, we always have some operational delivery risk. We need to deliver on our abilities.
We need to make sure that we develop our customer portfolio. I wouldn't now single out some risk.
Of course, bad debt can can increase if the gas gas prices increase for our customers. On the other hand side, we're also benefiting from from our long-term setup of professionally managing our commodity portfolio.
I'm I'm I'm I'm confident about the outlook, as I have said in my presentation.
Thank you very much.
Iris Eveleigh
Thank you. The next question comes from Alberto.
Hi, Alberto.
Alberto Gandolfi
Hi, Iris. Hi, Nadia.
Thank you. I have two non-Ovo questions, and the first one a bit complicated, but hopefully.
You've done 48% of the full-year midpoint guidance. I was trying to understand what you might see going wrong in the rest of the year for you not to be able to upgrade guidance above the top end.
I would love to see if you can comment on that, it looks like you're trailing above the top end on energy networks and perhaps midpoint EBITDA on EIS and energy retail, maybe even a little bit better than that, which together with the lower depreciation would suggest actually you to be above the top end on net income despite refinancing. I was trying to understand, can you poke holes in this thesis?
What it is I may not be considering, because it seems to me you are really trailing above your guidance. Is it a matter of prudence, and we wait and see later in the year, or there's something specific that we need to think about, and I'm already accounting for all seasonalities here?
The second question is a bit broader, but should we expect an investor day from E.ON before year-end, maybe to address the cost savings plan or any incremental growth, any potential acceleration in electrification we might see from incremental incentives that the EU may start to trickle down in the rest of the European member states? Thank you so much.
Nadia Jakobi
Yes, thank you, Alberto. The Q1 has developed fully in line with our expectations.
The ANI is, as you highlighted, a bit stronger than last year, but the Q1 also includes some lower earnings contributions from entities with minority interest in 2026, which is just a temporary uplift in adjusted net income. That might be then one of the dents in your thesis.
Then I think you highlighted the three different segments, and on the three different segments is also how we've indicated they have been all running in the first quarter in line with our expectations, EIS and energy retail, but also the energy networks business have developed in line with our expectations. We don't expect now the full-year ANI increase from our Q1 results because the financing costs are expected to rise further and then will bring back the ANI growth year-over-year to be broadly stable.
Second question, investor day. Iris, have you planned an investor day?
I'm not aware, but maybe Iris has and she hasn't told me. No.
From today's point of view, we have not looked at an investor day. I think you also asked the question about cost savings in the full-year call, where I think Leon has given some answers.
Yes, there is cost efficiency improvement potential in our retail business, which is baked in into the results, as you can see. We are increasing the results from a midpoint 1.7 now to 2.1 billion in 2030, which is quite some increase, of course.
There is always also potential or there's always a good point in analyzing whether you could gain more from AI, but of course, AI can also produce headwinds because makes competition more fierce. I guess we would stick to the answer that Leon has also given in the full-year call when it comes to sort of investor day and cost savings.
Was there any other thing? I think there's some other incremental silver trickling down.
I think where I would lean back to the answer I gave earlier. Yes, in general, this EU political developments are providing us with tailwind.
Whether that is concrete enough to make out of that an investor day in Q3, I would be a bit skeptical.
Iris Eveleigh
Thank you, Nadia.
Alberto Gandolfi
Thank you.
Iris Eveleigh
Thanks, Alberto. With that, we have a question from Piotr from Citi.
Piotr Dzieciolowski
Hi, good morning, everybody, and thank you for opportunity to ask questions. I have two.
The question I wanted to ask you, how do you think about the relation between the rates and your 2030 target? I'm specifically referring to the fact that risk-free rates are basically up, I don't know, 20 basis points since the Iran war, we don't know which way it goes.
Do you think about it that you will be ultimately able to pass through all of this increase, and therefore, we should think about your 2030 as a upward-moving target on the bottom line or EBITDA? Then specifically on Germany, does this move of the 20 basis or 25 basis points increase, let's see if it continues, impact your view where you will end up with the total package on the German regulatory review?
Apart from the technical mechanical adjustment of the averaging and so on, but are you thinking like, do you have some number in mind and it's being changed because of what's happening in the market, or you have a floating number in mind?
Nadia Jakobi
For us, we have given sort of an absolute target for 2030. I think you have covered it quite well.
There are, of course, things that are positive and negative on a 20 basis points variation. As 20 basis and we have discussed on the topics around the fixing of the regulated cost of debt in Germany, I think we have discussed on that enough.
Of course, it becomes more difficult to reach that if you stick to this seven-year average. We are currently not working with a floating ANI guidance, we would be sticking to sort of a firm ANI guidance.
As I said in the presentation, we are fully confirming our outlook for 2030, of course, and of course the announced acquisition not being part of that.
Piotr Dzieciolowski
Okay. Thank you.
Iris Eveleigh
Thank you, Piotr. With that, we move on to Rob from Morgan Stanley.
Hi, Rob.
Rob Pulleyn
Hi. Thank you.
Just two quick questions, if I may, which are really follow-up from earlier. The first one just holistically regarding Ovo again, is there any conceptual reason why E.ON cannot turn around the levels of profitability at Ovo to where E.ON's UK business currently is?
Appreciate sort of spreadsheet exercises make anything possible, but from your perspective, can you achieve parity with your current UK business? That's question one.
Secondly, you talked earlier about the regulatory cost of debt. Maybe I missed it, but when could we hear an update from the regulator on the allowed cost of debt for your existing assets, which seems to be, if I understand, one of the main sticking points with the regulatory package as it looks today?
Thank you.
Nadia Jakobi
For the Ovo question, what you need to bear in mind, our UK business is not just a B2C retail business, but is also including a B2B business and some other elements around that. I think we are also serving telecom plus customers, etc.
You wouldn't just be able to pro rata the per-customer result that we have been including in our report. Also, you cannot just take the EBITDA that you see in our annual report and divide that by customer numbers.
Then secondly, as I indicated earlier, we'll also have effects on the depreciation of the customer book, which will not be finalized by the end of 2030 yet. There would be that.
The second, yeah, it is not only the regulatory cost of debt. It is also the cost of equity, the benchmarking, etc.
I think we highlight the cost of debt always because it's sort of a significant part and it is also quite easy to understand that this is sort of not a fair representation how we can refinance ourselves in the capital market. I think what we have said, the regulatory cost of debt for gas, which is a very, very small part of our German business, will be then determined by the end of 2026 most likely, if the regulator sticks to their timelines.
Then for power, we will have the same in the end of 2027. What we don't know yet, what is the individual weighting of the different years in the averaging of the cost of debt.
Seeing this big increase in interest from 2020 to now, that is of course highly relevant how then the final cost of debt will be determined.
Iris Eveleigh
Thank you, Rob. With that, we come to the closing questions from Wanda from UBS.
Hi, Wanda.
Wanda Serwinowska
Hi, hopefully you can hear me. Thanks a lot.
Two questions, two on Ovo. There have been many, many questions on Ovo today.
Do you expect any cash injection into Ovo once the deal is closed, we can understand if there is more cash or any kind of cash equivalent that are going to be put into the Ovo business beyond the closing transaction value? The second one is what makes you so confident about the UK retail business, because this is one of the most competitive markets, right?
You are telling us it will be EPS accretive in 4 years' time from now. The political environment is not the best currently, if we look at the recent local elections.
What am I missing on the UK retail?
Nadia Jakobi
Thank you, Wanda, for the questions. Ovo will benefit from the strong E.ON balance sheet, and the transaction has a positive on E.ON headroom in 2030, as we said.
We will now not disclose any exact cash flows in the business plan. Second point, why do we think the UK market is a positive?
We have been in the UK market since 2000, yeah, E.ON since 2002, former Powergen business was in RWE since 2000, we have been acting in the market. You're right that the market was quite difficult, particularly in 2019 and '20.
What we have shown is that we have consistently been able, first of all, we've done a big integration like this with some of the main leadership still being in place, we have done all that. When you look back into how we have been able to make positive EBITDA contributions of that business in the last years, it almost always had exceeded investor expectations.
I think we have seen a lot of reasonable way of how the regulator has now been behaving in the market, with things like capital adequacy rules, with in prior years, in 2019, we have seen some unjustifiable benefits for small operators who in the end then eventually went bust and then needed to be saved by the others in the market. We have very close interaction, we see a positive outlook for the market.
We have got a very professional relationship with the UK regulator for a long time, regardless of the political sentiment. We believe it is an attractive market, and when it comes now to political speculation, we wouldn't now speculate on that.
I would see in something as fundamental as gas and electricity, I wouldn't now see that this is then affected by the current political discussions. Maybe it's also worth a while for us to sort of demonstrate and show again how we have been able to develop our UK business and how we've been able to consistently show very positive financial results in the last years.
Maybe we can also bring that to the next, some of the next quarterly meetings or some of the other meetings.
Iris Eveleigh
Thank you very much, Wanda, and thank you, Nadia. Thank you, everyone, for your time and participation and interest.
If there are any remaining questions, I know some people have their hand up a second time, please reach out to IR. We're happy to follow up with any further questions that might be there.
Thank you very much. With that, we close our Q1 call and have a nice day, everyone.
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