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Q2 FY2026 · Earnings Call TranscriptJuly 14, 2026

Sven Chetkovich

Hello and welcome to the presentation of Mycronic's Q2 report. My name is Sven Chetkovich, I'm the Director Investor Relations at Mycronic.

With me I have Mycronic CEO Anders Lindqvist and CFO Pierre Brorsson, who will be presenting today. With that, I hand over to Anders.

Please go ahead and present Mycronic's Q2 report.

Anders Lindqvist

Thank you, Sven, and good morning, everyone. Today, have the standard agenda, talk about the Q2 in general, in short.

Go deeper in the different divisions. Pierre will talk about the financials, some words on sustainability, and then we end the session with the Q&A question and answer session.

As usual, in the material that is on the website, you also have the market update, which we will not present, but it's there for information. Just to summarize the second quarter, it was an excellent quarter, really.

Many records in different ways. We had a record order intake, up 119%, but also the level is very high at 2.9 billion, have never been higher.

What is very nice to see is that we have contributions from all the different divisions, very much from Global Technologies, you will see, but also very strong development in High Volume and Pattern Generators. Pattern Generators is compared to quite weak quarter two last year, but still decent level.

Also very nice to see is that sales is also picking up, not only orders alone, at second best level up to 2.4 billion, very much from Global Technologies in that increase. Very strong gross margin at 57% and also very strong EBIT at close to 700 million, corresponding to 29%.

Because of strong order intake, of course, we could see that the backlog have increased to 5.25 billion Swedish, which is quite a good level for us to have. Going a little bit more in detail on the different divisions, starting with Pattern Generators.

Percentage-wise, it looks like we had a super order intake with 253%, but last year quarter two was very weak, where we had no system orders at all, actually. The level we reach now is 625, which is a decent level, but compared to a weak quarter, a lot of percent, of course.

We had four different SLXs on orders in the quarter, three normal machines, and then we had this one customized SLX that we announced already last quarter, which is a one-off project with a very high sales price, almost $30 million on that one. Sales a little bit down to 900, and this is positively impacted by the Cowin acquisition by 26 million.

Strong gross margin at 72%, EBIT close to 500, where we had a negative impact from Cowin acquisition of -14 million, and overall an EBIT margin of 53%, which is quite nice. Order backlog 1.7, and we have 13 systems now in the backlog as of end of the quarter.

Quite solid, basic. PCB Assembly Solutions, here we have both positive and negative.

We have the two largest order ever taken in the quarter, and both of them coming from the defense industry, very strong orders. This has resulted in a record order intake of 444 million.

At the same time, you can still that we continue to make a loss. We had a sales of 303 million and gross margin of 37%, but still we had a negative EBIT of 44.

In that 44, there is a restructuring cost of 39, but even taking that out, we are still negative on the EBIT. This is also why we now have started the restructuring program where we want to bring the EBIT margin back above 10%, and this should happen latest by next year at current volumes, make PCB Assembly Solutions great again, really.

High Volume, very strong demand here as well, which you can see, very much coming from the Chinese consumer electronics industry that has started to invest a lot. They're launching new products, but also markets outside of China.

We can also see in this division that we have a positive impact from opportunities when it comes to building up AI infrastructure, where we have sold dispensing solutions to server assemblies and final assembly of optical modules. Strong order intake, almost 700 million Swedish krona, up 82%.

Sales a little bit less up, 513 million. Very strong gross margin at 44% and EBIT 68 million, which is equal to 13%.

Here we have financial impact of ESOP of -24 as well, included in that number. Strong backlog at close to 1.2 billion.

Very good performance from High Volume. The best performance of all the divisions we have in Global Technologies.

We can see that, and it's especially in the PCB Test and Die Bonding, but very good contributions from the other businesses as well in this division. Order intake up above 1 billion for the first time, 1111, 1.11 billion Swedish, which is 176% up.

Sales also very good to see that this is following, up to 700 million, that we don't only build backlog, but also are building up the delivery capacity. We have a small positive impact from acquisitions of Surfx and the German company itec of 31 million, but nevertheless very strong sales increase.

Gross margin super strong at 56% and EBIT up to 250 million, which is a very strong pick up from the same quarter last year. Small impact of the different acquisitions.

We have still some noise from acquisitions in here, negative from Surfx and itec, but also positive impact of an earn-out that was reversed in Surfx, that was 14 million. All that together means a very strong EBIT margin at 36% and an increase of backlog to 2.1 billion.

I think we can start to see that Global Technologies start to have quite a meaningful contribution to the group numbers. All that, the strong momentum we have right now in the business, very little bit of currency also in our favor right now, has made us to revise the outlook for the full year, and we revised that up half a billion to 9.25 billion to reach that by the end of the year.

With that, I will hand over to Pierre Brorsson for a while.

Pierre Brorsson

Thank you so much, Anders, and I will take you through a bit the graphical outlook on the numbers. We increased year-on-year with 17% on an already quite good quarter last year, up to the second-best level at 2.4 billion in the quarter.

We also had another record when it comes to aftermarket revenue, which was 544 million, just above what we had in Q1 2025. Our EBIT margin on a high level, close to 30% at 29, which is not a record, but still very, very strong.

If we look where we stand on a rolling 12-month basis, we have now reached 8.65 billion, with an EBIT margin at a solid 26% after two strong quarters starting this year. The aftermarket revenue crossed the line of 2 billion for the first time, and that corresponds now to 24% of our net sales, and this is something that we put strong emphasis on.

If we look at the quarter-on-quarter and where did the result improvement come from, it was all in the gross margin. It was both improved gross margin, which we have had in Global Technologies as well as in High Volume, and then we had a volume effect on top of that.

On the cost side, we continue to invest both in building the organizational footprint globally in various parts of the divisions, and we continue to invest in technology. This is the technology investments in R&D is this quarter more broad-based than before.

In three of the divisions, we have continued to increase the spend distinctly, Pattern Generators, High Volume, and Global Technologies. On the PCB Assembly, we have a more moderate level of spend in the R&D side at the moment.

Marketing and sales and G&A, we continue to build and expand the footprint. There is a little bit of acquisition effect in these numbers as well, but we continue to expand and take advantage of the strong positions that we have, ending the quarter at 698 or 29%.

If we compare in the other direction and look division by division, you can see that all the improvement actually came from Global Technologies in the quarter. Pattern Generators had a strong comparison in the same quarter last year.

In PCB Assembly Solutions, as Anders mentioned, we have 39 million of exceptional costs for restructuring. High Volume, good quarter and also loaded with the ESOP costs this year, actually underlying an improvement.

Strong development in Global Technologies, and that took us then back to the 698 that we have reported. Cash flow.

We have a strong result, which of course is very supportive to the cash flow as well. The growth that we have is causing a bit negative impact on the working capital, even if the effect was even bigger during last year, where we also started the year strong.

A little bit of cash impact there. On the investment side, we have relatively moderate acquisitions, itec and Cowin, that we have invested in this year.

We have also invested a little bit more in our organization than we would normally or had historically have done. Among other things, we are investing in Täby and Kista for the PG and PA divisions.

On the financing activities side, we had the dividend is the majority of that, and that takes us to cash at the end of the period of 2.7 billion or a cash net cash position of 2.3 billion. With that quick walkthrough of the numbers, I hand the word back to Anders again.

Anders Lindqvist

Thank you, Pierre. We move over to sustainability.

Different topics each time, this one we zoom in on the transportation, which is today 7% of our greenhouse gas emissions for Mycronic. We're doing efforts to reduce the emissions by changing transportation mode.

Many of our equipment are transported by air freight, and we try to the largest extent possible to move that to sea freight. On Pattern Generators, we have started to ship spare parts to Asia by sea.

We have also improved the flows from PCB Assembly Solutions between China and Sweden and shifting from air to sea transport. Also Global Technologies, on the photonics interconnect business line, we also are starting doing sea freight for equipment going to the US.

Of course, sea freight instead of air freight requires a little bit more on the packaging to protect the equipment, but also in terms of planning and so on, because it takes longer time, but we are in a good position to do that. Those initiatives, which is very much in close collaboration both with the customers, but also with our suppliers, where we're all on the same line, are contributing to reduce our emissions across the total value chain, quite important steps here.

That was the end of the normal presentation. Now we can move into question and answers, Sven.

Sven Chetkovich

Yes. Thank you, Anders, and thank you, Pierre.

Yes, now we are moving over to the Q&A session. We start with Ina Djupsund at SEB.

Ina, please go ahead and ask your questions.

Ina Djupsund

Yes. Hi, Sven and Anders, and thanks for taking my questions.

I wanted to start by asking on your raised outlook again here for 2026, and if you could give some flavor on kind of main drivers behind this and where the kind of positive delta for 2026 is coming from. Then a second, you've previously indicated that you're kind of fully booked within PCB Test for 2026.

Have you been able to kind of increase delivery capacity here, and what can you say about kind of the current utilization and potential expansion plans?

Pierre Brorsson

If I take the first one with the increased outlook, we have seen very good demand in High Volume. You could say that it's basically one-third, one-third, one-third.

We have increased demand in High Volume. We have also further increased demand in the Global Technologies, and then it's in particular the AI infrastructure-related products, the die bonding, to some degree PCB Test.

The third one is, of course, the currencies have a certain impact as well. Basically these three buckets a little bit similar in size compared to prior quarter.

Anders Lindqvist

Then it was the question about the delivery capacity in PCB Test, I think, in particular. It is I think we announced already before that we're doing an expansion of the production facility, which is not yet there, but it will be end of this year, I think it is planned for.

Already we are doing improvement in the total supply chain, it's not only factory floor space that is kind of impacting the delivery capacity, it's also the whole supply chain with sub-suppliers and so on, and can see that also the revenue numbers are picking up in that business. We are able to deliver more, also improve the current situation a little bit, but the order intake is even stronger, it means that the long lead time remains long.

It's more than a year and a half right now. It depends on equipment, of course, also, but we are super cautious.

We have a quite large down payment parts in the contracts as well, really to safeguard that we don't will suffer from any cancellations or speculations in this backlog. It looks quite good, but we are better and better on deliveries, it's also good for revenues, which is visible, I think.

Then

Ina Djupsund

EBIT was super strong in Global Tech here in Q2. How sustainable would you say this level of profitability is for the whole division?

Pierre Brorsson

I think it's a good question. I think these 36% that we deliver in the quarter is a little bit on the high side, but if you want to have a direction, I think for now, I think we will be able to be around the 30% mark.

I think that's a level where we are at with this strong demand and good volumes that we have.

Ina Djupsund

Thank you. That was all for me.

Pierre Brorsson

Thank you.

Sven Chetkovich

Thank you, Ina. Now over to London and Oliver Wong at Bank of America.

Please go ahead and ask your questions, Oliver.

Oliver Wong

Hey, guys. Hope you can hear me.

Thanks a lot. I was wondering for maybe for Pattern Generators sort of, I think the revenues in the quarter exceeded expectations quite a bit.

I was wondering if there's anything to flag there, any one-offs in terms of revenue and also just an update, a general update on kind of the trends in terms of underlying demand for display mask writers, for China semi mask writers, for non-China semi mask writers would be super helpful. Thank you.

Anders Lindqvist

No, there was nothing extraordinary in the quarter. I think we delivered according to plan.

I think it was five systems, Sven, that delivered, and that was planned. Also, I think according to what we have in the previous reports also on what should be delivered when and so on, so that was just following that.

On the market situation, starting with the displays, we had a little bit or still have a little bit lower than normal, I would say, order intake on the display side, which I think is kind of normal. We have those cycles normally coming up and down, and also the replacement programs goes a little bit in cycles as the generations shift a little bit at the same time.

I think we're a little bit lower than normal, and we should expect that to pick up, but difficult to say when really. There is nothing in the market that has changed, actually.

We can see that the display manufacturers and the demand is still quite high, and we can also see that there is a lot of technology development on the display side. An example is this if you look on mobile phone, they start now to have integrated privacy filters into the display.

That drives mask demand quite significantly, actually. Innovations like that is to our favor, really.

On the semi side, it's holding up surprisingly good. We thought that I think we said it before that China bought a lot in the past and maybe a little bit less now, but can actually see that I think the demand in China is still strong and could even be even bigger.

I think China is still moving quite ahead on the semi side, and as do the rest of the world as well, of course, with everyone still stronger and stronger believe in owning the supply chain and also the with the demand that is on the market right now in investing quite a lot. Semi is also quite strong, I would say.

No surprises maybe, but that's as it is.

Oliver Wong

Semi mask writer demand, China is quite strong and non-China, how is that trending?

Anders Lindqvist

Similar, I would say.

Oliver Wong

Okay. Sounds good.

If I may ask another question,

Anders Lindqvist

yeah, just

Oliver Wong

on Global Tech growing very strongly, driven by PCB Test and die bonding. It seems like it's sort of silicon photonics die bonding or something like that, or maybe just optical in general.

I was wondering if you could just talk a bit more about how you see the growth trending going forward and yeah, how do you see kind of your EBIT margins for the group growing into the future? Thanks.

Yes.

Anders Lindqvist

On the demand side, very much is driven by photonics and communication-related equipment, and it's really about optical very much on the packaging of optical components into transceivers and stuff like that. Typical customers are of course like InnoLight, Lumentum and those kind of people who are building transceivers for different manufacturers.

If you look on their numbers, they're very strong as well, I think. That's really following that on that side.

I don't yeah, super strong demand. This is impacting die bonding directly with those customers, but also the whole AI infrastructure is impacting PCB Test as well because then later a lot of components are coming on very complicated boards that we test with our equipment, or not we test, but our customers test that.

What was the second question now, that was

Oliver Wong

On the EBIT margin. Yes.

Yes. Exactly.

Anders Lindqvist

We had 36% in the quarter on Global Technologies, that's a little bit on the high side because we still need to build up capability and capacity in the division. Right now the revenue and profit moving a little bit faster than the planned cost.

When the planned cost comes kind of a normal level, at the current demand and the current mix, we will be around 30% in this division on a normalized level. As everything looks right now, so that should be kind of the normal rate at the current momentum, so.

Oliver Wong

I was wondering, you say 30% normalized EBIT margins, but presumably, let's say the trends continue, revenues will continue to grow. In terms of normalized, what kind of time frame do you expect?

Or do you expect more like, let's say if trends continue, 30% that will continue to increase going forward?

Anders Lindqvist

No, I think normalized, if you take that the current order intake translate into revenue, let's say a year from now, and then we are able to invest as we will need to in that division. I think that point in time should be within a year.

That's the thinking.

Oliver Wong

Potential upside to that into the future.

Anders Lindqvist

If volume goes beyond that, then that should have leverage

Oliver Wong

because

Anders Lindqvist

the gross margin is quite strong in this division, so.

Oliver Wong

Absolutely. Thank you very much.

Anders Lindqvist

Thank you.

Sven Chetkovich

Thank you, Oliver. Now over to Nordea and Anders Åkerblom.

Anders Åkerblom

Thanks, Sven. Good morning, gents.

I wanted to ask, firstly, Anders, you said a bit about the display market being stable, expecting potentially some orders to come through there as well, I guess with the Prexision 8000. Just kind of balancing that with what we're seeing in terms of component price inflation, and that impacting some of the display manufacturers, potentially investment willingness and such.

How do you balance that against, I guess, a good pipeline of eventual customers taking the Prexision 8000?

Anders Lindqvist

It's difficult to Timing

Anders Åkerblom

timing-wise. Timing-wise, I mean.

Anders Lindqvist

Yeah. If anything that would possibly delay a little bit maybe decisions because of course the payback calculations will look differently with the higher component costs and so on.

At the same time, the development has to happen in a way, we haven't seen so much of that. If anything, it's difficult to say because the pipeline is, I would say, quite normal.

As usual, the time between initial discussion and closing is extremely variable in our case, and we don't really know always if this is depending on what is the reason for that and so on. In my thinking is that it has a minor impact on decisions on that in the bigger perspective.

We should really soon sell a P-8000, I think. Logically, it should happen, but customers are not always as logical as we are, I think, so that's.

Anders Åkerblom

Yeah. No, thanks, appreciate that answer.

You elaborated a bit on that before in terms of Global Tech, and I know what you're trying to do in terms of sort of protecting, I guess, your demand and your existing customers with expanding capacity and working with sub-suppliers and whatnot. How do you see the competitive landscape evolving here as you say, lead times are quite long, a year and a half, in PCB Test?

Is this something that keeps you up at night, to speak?

Anders Lindqvist

I think it's something that we really want to improve. In one way it could be very convenient to have a backlog because then we know the future, but on the other hand, it's also quite a big risk on that one.

I think we definitely don't want to expand it more or to prolong the lead time more than what we have now. I think we can see that it kind of stabilizes and normalized because we are getting better and better on deliveries as well.

I think this is less and less an issue, but absolutely, this is super important. I think right now we don't have any because the customers also have quite some lead time at their end because it's not only our equipment that needs to go into the factories, and almost everyone has the same challenge right now.

You can see the lead times from, even though it's not competitors, but complementary equipment is also extremely long, and in many cases longer, as long as we're not the worst or the bottleneck, we don't get the heat really, but if it would be longer, then it might happen, we should definitely keep it where it is and preferably shorten it.

Anders Åkerblom

That makes a lot of sense, thank you. I know it's still fairly early, but I would, as always, appreciate your speculation here.

On the current just backlog in PG, all else equal, how do you see revenues trending into 2027 in PG compared to 2026? Do you expect it to be at a materially lower level, or do you see kind of some orders coming through that would support that?

Anything you could say there would be great.

Anders Lindqvist

I think we only know what we know right now, in a way, so that is the current backlog and the delivery schedule. As you say, there are quite some gaps in the quarters for

Anders Åkerblom

Yeah.

Anders Lindqvist

We can still fill. I think the next half year will really, really tell on how well we are filling that, but it's a little bit on the thin side, for sure.

I agree to that. We work very hard to fill it, but it's a product

Anders Åkerblom

That I know you do.

Anders Lindqvist

It's a product that is difficult to sell in a way that if the customer doesn't need it, it doesn't matter how good you are on selling it, so that's. Yeah.

Okay. Thank you.

Anders Åkerblom

Thank you very much for your answers. I'll get back in line.

Sven Chetkovich

Thank you, Anders. Now we move over to Henric Hvitfeldt at ABG Sundal Collier.

Please go ahead and ask your questions, Henric.

Henric Hintze

Thank you. I'd like to just follow up on one of the Global Tech questions there.

You said you don't want to let the PCB Test lead times increase further and preferably shorten them. Could you give us any detail on how you intend to achieve that?

No,

Anders Lindqvist

we are expanding the factory, and that effect will come towards the end of the year, but it's also the whole supply chain that is, in many cases, quite constrained, and we can see that from many different businesses right now that it's a little bit choked. I think the majority of improvement will come from there right now.

I think we can also improve our, how do you say, lead time in the factory even further a little bit, we will be able to deliver more and more every day, you can say, it's small improvements all the time. The big difference will come from early next year, I would say, when they have more space, or more capacity.

Henric Hintze

Could you remind us how much your capacity should increase from current levels when that comes online?

Anders Lindqvist

25% more.

Henric Hintze

Okay. On the margins in this segment, could you just give us some more detail on what has driven the sort of Q-on-Q change in the margin?

Is it operating leverage? Is it price?

Is it mix?

Pierre Brorsson

It's a mix of different things. Of course, the level of fixed cost in relation to the turnover is going down as we are increasing the volume and as we are getting the throughput up.

That's one important lever. We have also quite a good level of software content with the backdrill functionality that we've spoken about a few times in these products, and where we have launched a second version, which is also supporting the total price paid, even if it's not a price increase on the product as such.

Then, of course, given the situation, there is not so much of a price pressure, it's more a delivery pressure that we feel from the customers. This in combination supports the improved gross margin in the PCB Test specifically.

On the die bonding side, we have since already some years worked hard on improving the cost base and focusing on highly profitable products, supporting the improvement of gross margin in that business line.

Henric Hintze

Orders in the first half year have obviously been very strong. Is 25% extra capacity really enough with the demand situation as you see it now?

Doesn't sound like that much given the growth numbers we're seeing.

Pierre Brorsson

We believe that on top of what we have, that will, at least for what we can see, support the deliveries that we need to do.

Henric Hintze

Are you getting any indications from the customers here on sort of the longer-term demand picture?

Pierre Brorsson

We are already taking orders with pretty long lead time and with down payment, we know that if the world continue to exist, and then 2027 will for sure be good, and beginning of 2028 as well, so. Beyond that, we can speculate, of course.

Henric Hintze

Okay. I would love to hear you speculate more, but I'll get back in line for now.

Sven Chetkovich

Yeah. Thank you, Henric.

Now we will move over to Mikael Laséen at DNB Carnegie. Please go ahead and ask your questions, Mikael.

Mikael Laséen

Thanks. I have more of a detailed question first on the PG segment.

You had quite good sales, I think, and I think you have delayed one SLX system delivery to Q3. The margin was still really good.

I'm just curious about the service and upgrade revenue development in Q2, if you can elaborate on that. Was that maybe higher than normal, higher than usual?

Pierre Brorsson

It's a slight positive, but it's within what we say is normal, it's not totally different. You can say that the mix of machines delivered were quite strong.

There was a lot of Prexision machines delivered in the quarter, which is having a higher price than SLXs, it's

Mikael Laséen

Yeah.

Pierre Brorsson

That contributes, of course.

Mikael Laséen

Okay. When it comes to the R&D spending, it was a bit lower than in Q1 for the PG segment.

Can you talk to us about if you are slowing down the R&D activity here from high levels or what we should expect going forward?

Pierre Brorsson

No, I think you can take Q1 and two and combine them and it's a little bit when investments in certain external services fall more. It's correct that it's 15 million lower in Q2 than it was in Q1, that's correct.

I think if you take the average of those, I think is a fair representation of where we spend at the moment.

Mikael Laséen

Okay. Going over to the Global Technology segment, I'm a bit curious here if you can elaborate on the different businesses you have there, maybe more in detail, the profitability development and also how Surfx is performing.

It was a relatively large acquisition last year.

Pierre Brorsson

Yes, and it's maybe worth mentioning that acquisition effects, as we report it, is one year, and as we took on Surfx from the beginning of June last year, there is only a two months acquisition effect reported in the report. Actually June was a very strong month, you see a loss reported here for itec and Surfx, but this only relates to April and May for Surfx, and June was very strong.

I think development in Surfx is at the moment strong. Order intake is picking up, we will be distinctly above last year when we end this year.

Margins are stronger than average in Global Technologies, this will be supportive to the gross margin and the EBIT margin going forward. Okay.

Mikael Laséen

Just to follow up on Surfx, I noticed that you have a litigation process ongoing or you have just started that. Can you talk to us about what that is about?

Pierre Brorsson

It's a US litigation process, a small competitor of ours that we are investigating whether there is an infringement or not.

Anders Lindqvist

On patent.

Pierre Brorsson

On patent, yeah.

Mikael Laséen

Okay. I guess that you're doing this for a reason, that you notice that the competition is maybe improving or I don't know.

Can you

Pierre Brorsson

maybe

Mikael Laséen

say something more about the backdrop of this? No,

Pierre Brorsson

I think we are always trying to uphold our IP, and we have certain processes ongoing at various times. We have other processes going on in Global Technologies in other markets, I think there's no drama about that one.

Mikael Laséen

Okay. Just a final one on Global Tech, if I may.

The segment is obviously performing really well, but what about further M&A opportunities, if you can talk to us about that, and how you allocate capital in that segment, if you focus more on the organic side, capex expansions and the organic side, or if you have more M&A opportunities out there?

Pierre Brorsson

I think we have a number of things that we are doing organically now in particular with the recent acquisitions. I think they still have to come up to speed, a few of them.

There is no limitation on the M&A side. We have a strong cash position, we have a willingness to invest if we have the right technology at the right price.

Of course, tech valuations, they are quite challenging for now, this may be a little bit of an obstacle. We continue to explore and we continue to drive forward, and we think that also in the future, a meaningful part of the growth should come from new businesses.

Mikael Laséen

Thanks.

Sven Chetkovich

Thank you, Mikael. Now over to Fredrik Lithell at Handelsbanken.

Fredrik Lithell

Thank you for taking my questions as well. I thought we could start off with PCB Assembly, that we haven't really dug too much into, and see what you will achieve with the total 100 million restructuring charge you're taking, how you intend to spend that and what it will deliver for you in terms of lowered opex base.

What is that more specific, it would be interesting to hear.

Anders Lindqvist

It's a mix of quite a lot of different things in there. I think we are reducing the workforce.

This is one part of costs, of course, but we also changing the way we manufacture and do business and so on, we're looking into opportunities to in-source possibly some products instead of manufacturing ourselves and still only offer the same kind of product portfolio that we do, but maybe made in a different way. This is still on investigation.

The real target is to lower the opex cost and to a level where we can make a solid minimum 10% EBIT even in a valley or in a downturn and so on. If you take the current sales volume or even a little bit less, we should still be able to make 10% on that one.

Then I think we have a contribution to the group financial-wise, so that is the whole aim for the exercise. I think we have eight or 10 different kind of work streams on how that should really happen, there are small pieces of everything, but.

Fredrik Lithell

It has been a weak market for a long time, let's call it that. Have you seen changes in pricing dynamics as a consequence of that, so that it's been tougher on pricing?

Anders Lindqvist

Not so much as you could maybe expect. What we see is this market is not really growing, this high-mix market.

Really, it's kind of there and it's not that small and it's existing, and it's a quite interesting market. The problem is there is very little growth in the market, I think, but that's why I think we can still be a meaningful player and make money in it, but more maybe on a stable base than on a growing base.

We could see that many competitors are announcing that they're withdrawing from the PCB assembly market. We have seen announcements from ASM PT that they are, what do you call, having a strategic overview on the PCB assembly.

We saw last year that Kulicke & Soffa just closed their PCB assembly business without not even try to sell it and so on, and we know that competitors are struggling. At the same time, the high-volume segment in PCB assembly goes quite well.

You can see that companies like Fuji and Panasonic and those high-volume players are doing quite well and enjoying that, which means also they spend a little bit less time maybe on the high-mix side. It's not so much price pressure, but it's more that the market is a little bit too small.

Fredrik Lithell

Thank you. Or

Anders Lindqvist

not growing.

Fredrik Lithell

Another question. I noticed, Pierre, you alluded to A to G and a new product version that had been launched.

I had a question here on when we visited Productronica, we got the A9 showcased for us. Can you describe a little bit how the innovation and how the development on the flying probe machines are looking for you?

What sort of scope and time plan for more advanced machines do you have?

Pierre Brorsson

I think this is not maybe the best case to make a future product launch, but we continue, of course, to develop and enhance the machines that we have in the market. The A9 is relatively new.

We have the backdrill functionality, which we have in now a second version, which is better and then also priced at a different level. We have made certain acquisitions where we will also see what we can combine out of those.

There is a relevant product development taking place also in PCB Test.

Fredrik Lithell

Thank you. Just a final one from me, the PA8000 went to Photronics.

Is that the first time a merchant is picking up sort of the new high-end machines for the coming 10 years? Or did the merchants always be in the lead?

Pierre Brorsson

I think this is actually no difference to when the PA800 was also

Fredrik Lithell

merchant

Pierre Brorsson

going first,

Fredrik Lithell

so. Thank you.

Curious just.

Pierre Brorsson

Yeah.

Sven Chetkovich

Thank you, Fredrik. Now we will do a second quicker round, I assume, but we go back to Ina Djupsund at SEB to see if you have any further questions, Ina.

Ina Djupsund

Yes, I could do a follow-up on a question about R&D spend. How do you expect this to develop in 2027 and what kind of portion of the current R&D spend is related to new product launches within PG?

Can we assume that R&D spend will peak in 2026?

Pierre Brorsson

That will depends on how good ideas we have in the future. I think that we have now the big investments that we do on inspection, as we have been talking about before, and I expect that we continue to run on this level at least the coming year.

Because just that you get into the market doesn't mean that the product is 100% ready and that you can stop developing on it.

Ina Djupsund

Thank you. That was all for me.

Thank you.

Sven Chetkovich

Thank you, Ina. Now over to Oliver.

Any further questions from you, Bank of America?

Oliver Wong

No further questions at this point, thank you.

Sven Chetkovich

Okay. Then Anders Åkerblom, Nordea, do you have any follow-up questions?

Anders Åkerblom

Sure. One final, if I may.

Speaking about good ideas, you seem to have a few in High Volume, at least, judging on R&D spend being up almost 50% year-over-year. Anything you want to say there?

I think,

Anders Lindqvist

no, it's nothing in particular, but I think on High Volume in particular, we have been very, very good in adapting to market needs, really to constantly develop new features and for new applications. I think that has been quite large portion of the growth that we have seen in this division, and we continue to do so.

We still have the majority of applications in consumer electronics, but we see opportunities on the AI side, on the semiconductor side, especially we can do more on the automotive side and so on. I think we will see more and more, and also we see more and more products, actually, that requires new solutions.

We have now this AI glasses is very hot in China, and that requires totally new features from the dispensing equipment when it comes to how to rotate the object and how to fill and to what precision, and also on quality assurance and so on. I think it's majority of innovations really this kind of application-oriented innovation where we're solving new problems because of new challenges for customers, and by that, we are able to grow the business.

That's also quite a good way to stay ahead of competition, actually, because they have a lot of competitors on the dispensing side, but, I would say, most of them are quite behind because of our speed of innovations.

Anders Åkerblom

Okay. Very good answer.

Appreciate that. Thank you.

Sven Chetkovich

Thank you, Anders. Now over to Henric Hvitfeldt, ABG Sundal Collier.

You have any further questions?

Henric Hintze

Just to follow up quickly on that. You wrote in the report and you mentioned now again that you're capitalizing on some new AI opportunities in the High Volume segment.

Could you give us any idea of what the potential is here? I assume we're not going to see High Volume start growing the way Global Tech is, but is it a significant potential?

Anders Lindqvist

I think it's a potential. I think the difference is that High Volume is very broad, we have numbers of different applications, and AI is a bit of that.

Most likely, the AI-related applications will grow, but they are maybe less than 20 20% of the total, while it is in Global Technologies maybe more closer to everything. That's a difference, of course.

It's difficult to say what the potential is, but I think you can see the rate of order intake and so on. I think that is very much driven by new applications and also an improved market situation.

I don't really know how much is exactly AI-related and so on, but it is helping for sure. I think it also have some spillover effect that even if it's not maybe pure AI, it's still kind of electronics assembly will need to happen more and more.

Henric Hintze

Okay. Thank you very much.

Anders Lindqvist

Thank you.

Sven Chetkovich

Thank you, Henric. Now over to Mikael Laséen, DNB Carnegie.

You have any more questions?

Mikael Laséen

Actually I have a follow-up again on this High Volume demand driver from AI applications. You mentioned AI glasses.

What other applications are you talking about and is relevant here?

Anders Lindqvist

That is on the consumer electronics, and you can debate if it's AI glasses or glasses with a little bit of AI functionality inside and so on, but it's still labeled like that, I think. More precise is what we refer to in the report, I think, which is this kind of heat-dissipating dispensing equipment.

Don't remember exactly what it was, actually. It was communication equipment, I think.

Mikael Laséen

Communication equipment, yes.

Anders Lindqvist

We

Mikael Laséen

also have a bit on the optical module assembly.

Anders Lindqvist

Exactly, and so on. This is more precise.

As previous question also, it will not create the same boom as we have in Global Technologies, but it will be a meaningful contributor, for sure.

Mikael Laséen

You estimated to a bit less than 20%? That

Anders Lindqvist

was a super, super high-level estimation, I would say, but it's not more, for sure.

Mikael Laséen

Okay. Just a follow-up on the memory market, rising memory price and tightening supply affecting any of your businesses, and can you comment on that if that's the case?

Anders Lindqvist

Not a lot on our cost side. A little bit, of course, but it's maybe more on the customer side where the product calculations from customers maybe look different and so on.

We don't believe that we have seen so much impact of that in any of those two ends, yeah.

Mikael Laséen

Okay. Thank you.

Anders Lindqvist

Thank you.

Sven Chetkovich

Thank you, Mikael. Finally over to Fredrik Lithell at Handelsbanken for

Fredrik Lithell

your

Sven Chetkovich

extra questions. Yep.

Fredrik Lithell

I have one. If we could maybe elaborate a little bit on Cowin that just have entered into your group and the first impressions, how you met the company, the plans you're sort of tailoring, what the ambitions are and so on would be interesting to get some more details on it.

Anders Lindqvist

Yes, maybe not give too much, but we do see good potential with the base business of Cowin, and we do see possibilities to combine certain areas. We are, however, a little bit restricted in the combination because this is a national core technology in Korea, and we have to deal with it with a certain precautions.

It will take us a little bit longer to combine it with our technology. We do see some good prospects on the base business, meaning repair for panels and repair for photomasks.

Fredrik Lithell

Okay. Thank you.

Sven Chetkovich

Thank you, Fredrik. With that, we have reached the end of the presentation of Mycronic's Q2 report.

Before we finish, I would just like to mention the fact that Mycronic, we hold a Capital Markets Day on the 31st of August in Täby at our headquarters, and we invite media, analysts, you guys who have participated today, and institutional investors. You can sign up on the webpage or through the quarterly report, and there will be some exciting things happening there.

Welcome to that. With that, thank you very much for attending today's presentation.