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Q2 FY2026 · Earnings Call TranscriptJuly 17, 2026

Operator

Welcome to Evolution Q2 report 2026 presentation. During the Q&A session, participants are able to ask questions by dialing pound key 5 on their telephone keypad.

Now, I will hand the conference over to the speakers, CEO Martin Carlesund and CFO Joakim Andersson. Please go ahead.

Martin Carlesund

Thank you. Good morning, everyone.

Welcome to the presentation of Evolution's interim report for the second quarter of 2026. My name is Martin Carlesund, and I'm the CEO of Evolution.

With me, I have our CFO, Joakim Andersson. As always, I will start with some comments on our performance and then hand over to Joakim for a closer look at our financials.

After that, I will conclude and then we will open up for questions. Next slide, please.

Let's start with the highlights. Net revenues were €517.8 million, corresponding to a year-on-year decline of 1.2%, but a quarter-on-quarter increase of 0.9%.

EBITDA came in at €341 million, corresponding to a margin of 65.9%. I'm overall happy with the results in the quarter.

Revenue and EBITDA both move in the right direction. The margins is in line with our guidance and cash flow is strong.

The volatility in Asia continues to disturb the overall picture, but we will continue to address the cybercrime challenges day-by-day, one quarter at the time, and I'm certain that we will eventually win. Europe saw recovery compared to the start of the year with generally good progress across markets.

Latin America continues its strong momentum and North America also shows good growth. Live revenue improved with 0.6 percent compared to the first quarter, but declined 3.6% on a year-on-year basis, mostly related to Europe.

At the same time, RNG revenue showed a strong 14% growth year-on-year and it can be noted that the North American slots business performs well at the moment. In the quarter, we have launched a second studio in Michigan, which is not only hosting several game shows in the state, but also is the home of our second live brand, Ezugi.

Around the quarter end, we also relaunched the studio in Argentina that we acquired from a competitor earlier this year. On the product side, we have launched the first titles under our new Hasbro partnership.

All in all, pretty much business as usual, we keep running and moving forward. Next slide, please.

Here we have our operational KPIs, first consisting of headcount and the game rounds index. On headcount, we are growing 2.8% on a year-on-year basis and flat quarter-on-quarter.

As highlighted, we have launched two new studios in the quarter and are set for yet some more launches late this year. With every new studio, we are optimizing the distribution and cost mix, and I'm happy with that.

The game rounds index can be seen as a general indicator of activity throughout our network over time. It varies between quarters, but for the long-term trend it should be increase, as session in general get faster with smaller bets.

The uptick in Q2 is satisfying, very good. Next slide, please.

Looking at the revenue mix by customer location, it looks exactly the same as in Q1. Europe dominates the picture, followed by North America and Latin America.

As we require all our customers to carry a license in regulated jurisdictions, all our revenues are regulated. Moving to the revenue split based on our customers' customer, which is an estimation based on the IP number of players received from our customers and purchased third-party geo information, North America and Africa takes a slightly larger part of the mix, whereas Asia has decreased somewhat.

The estimated share stemming from regulated markets continued to increase and now stands at 49%. Next slide, please.

Now I will go through each of the major regions based on the estimation of revenue based on our customers' customers' IP number. Europe saw a recovery quarter-on-quarter.

The regulatory subjectivity remains and channellization is very weak in a number of jurisdictions, but we have seen an increasing activity in regulated markets. Are we at an inflection point?

It's too early to say, but our strong belief is that the only way to win players to the regulated portion of the market is both a balanced regulation and by offering the best and most entertaining content. In the quarter, the game show category did really good and demand for localized contents is on the rise.

We continue to work hard and adapt to both the regulatory and the player needs. Later this year, we will launch a new studio in Vilnius in Lithuania.

A recurring topic when speaking about Europe has been the license review in the UK, where we agreed a settlement of £4.75 million earlier this week. I believe the amount is a bit high in relation to the actual issue, but I'm still happy to be able to resolve it and move forward.

Throughout the review, we have continued to refine our processes and, as you are well aware of, also enforced the strictest ring-fencing measures among any suppliers in Europe. I can't stress this enough: at Evolution, we always want to do right, we require all our customers to carry the license needed in a specific market, and we engage with the regulators to address any issues that arise.

Moving to Asia, as already highlighted, unfortunately, we took a step back compared to the previous quarter. We have said it before, that this is a cat-and-mouse game and the volatility will remain.

We are not stressed. We know what the challenge is, we will continue to battle it, and we look forward to see where we stand in the next quarter.

Looking beyond the cybercrime issues, performance in the region was good. The regulated Philippine market is growing nicely and the regulatory situation in the region as a whole has been overall stable.

Next slide, please. The strong growth trend continues in both North America and Latin America with an all-time high revenue in both regions.

In North America, we have launched MONOPOLY Live in New Jersey, Delaware, Michigan, and Connecticut. Originally released in 2019 in Europe, it is one of our most popular game shows globally, and with MONOPOLY as a very strong franchise in the US, we are excited to finally bring it to the American audience.

After the quarter end, we have also expanded our presence in Alberta in Canada following the introduction of the regulated commercial market. Speaking of North America, I will take the opportunity to address Galaxy Gaming.

As everyone is aware, the outside date of the merger agreement is today. After today, either party may choose to terminate the agreement.

Two years have passed and we have spent significant time, effort, and resources handling the administration needed to close the acquisition. I really think that Galaxy is a great company and we have had a strong commercial relationship with them for many years.

Due to its size, the transaction is not significant for Evolution. That means that the outcome has no material impact on our existing business, our US operations, or our long-term ambitions.

We'll come back in due time on the way forward and I will not comment it further today. Moving on to Latin America, where growth remains solid, we continue to adapt our products to the local markets and in the quarter, we have launched a localized version of Ice Fishing in Brazil.

It is hosted by native Brazilian Portuguese-speaking game presenters and streaming from our São Paulo studio. A few weeks back, we also relaunched the studio in Argentina that we acquired, which I also mentioned earlier, from our competitor in Q1.

It's our second studio in Argentina and it will support continued growth in the market. We don't display a separate chart for other markets, which mainly comprise of Africa.

It is a somewhat volatile region quarter-on-quarter, but with a clear positive trend and its revenue contribution is increasingly noticeable. We have a strong position as a premium live casino supplier, but RNG is also showing good growth.

Next slide, please. I've talked so much about our amazing product roadmap for 2026, this time around, I will keep it more concise.

During the second quarter, we launched the first title under our new exclusive global partnership with Hasbro, MONOPOLY Roulette, and earlier this week, we also launched MONOPOLY Roll On. The initial response from both operators and players have been very strong and I believe we are on to something really great.

Looking ahead, we have many more titles to launch, but I will speak about only one of them. This is actually not related to Hasbro, but a spin-off of our own popular Funky Time starring Mr.

Funky and the Disco Cat. As the name suggests, Disco Balls will bring a lot of action with a disco atmosphere.

It will be fun and groovy and set for release during the third quarter. It's our major upcoming release.

With that, I will hand over to Joakim for a closer look at our financials, and then next slide, please.

Joakim Andersson

Thank you, Martin. As usual, I will now go a bit deeper into the financials.

Let's start with slide 8 and our revenue and EBITDA development over time. If we look at the data on the far right, we can see the Q2 revenue of €517.8 million, represented by the blue bar; EBITDA of €341 million in the grey bar; and the EBITDA margin of 65.9%, shown by the line above.

It's another stable quarter that we add to the last few quarters with a small, but yet positive, revenue increase. Let's go to the next slide.

On this slide, we have a more detailed look at our profit and loss statement. As before, and you're getting used to this, I have highlighted the key takeaways on the slide and I will walk through them one by one.

First, again, net revenues amounted to €517.8 million, down 1.2% year-on-year, but up 0.9% quarter-on-quarter. Notable here is the continued positive development on the RNG side and solid double-digit growth year-on-year at 14%.

Secondly, total operating expenses were €220 million, which is 1% higher than Q2 last year, but 0.2% down quarter-on-quarter, which helped us expand the margin slightly quarter-on-quarter. Generally, it feels like we are on top of it and we manage our cost base in a prudent way.

Third, with the addition of a positive financial net of €3.1 million this quarter, it all means that the profit for the period amounted to €251.4 million. Then finally, as the fourth highlight, EPS, earnings per share, after dilution were €1.27.

From this quarter and onwards, there will be a noticeable effect in the number of outstanding shares as a consequence of our buybacks. In this quarter, we bought back 5.1 million shares.

Let's move on to the next slide, where I will show you the development of our cash flow. First, on the left-hand side, we show our operating cash flow after investments.

This amounted to €258 million for the quarter. The last 12 months' cash conversion remains strong and ended up at 86%, shown by the line in the same graph.

The second quarter is seasonally weak on cash flow due to tax payments, or low, I should probably say maybe. We saw good progress and good positive contribution from the ongoing working capital efficiency initiatives.

Turning to the chart on the right, which shows our capital expenditures, total CapEx related to tangible and intangible assets amounted to €34.7 million for the quarter. This remains stable as a share of net revenues, as illustrated by the black line.

Next slide, please. Turning to our financial position, and as you can see, there are no major changes compared to recent quarters.

We continue to be in a very strong position with total cash of €1.2 billion, and in the quarter, we used €303 million of our cash towards the buybacks. You can also see that the investment in the bond portfolio was repaid this quarter and booked on the cash line.

Total equity amounted to 4. €4.2 billion, €4.2 billion, and that concludes the financial deep dive for this quarter.

Back to you, Martin, for the wrap-up.

Martin Carlesund

Thank you, Joakim. Brilliant.

Let's summarize and then move to Q&A. I have on purpose tried to stay as much to the point as possible in this presentation.

As stated, I believe things are moving in the right direction and it's very much business as usual in Evolution right now. I'm pleased with the development in Europe, North America, and Latin America, and Africa.

As for Asia, I believe we will come around. What I haven't mentioned yet is the share buyback, which also have been gone through by Joakim.

It was initiated in May. I know you've waited long for the capital allocation decision and I can assure you that we looked at our options from every possible angle.

We're confident that the €2 billion program, which, as far as I'm aware, is the largest ever in the history of Swedish stock exchange, is the right thing to create additional shareholder value. Operationally, as we move forward, we will minimize time and resource spent on things that don't really drive business, revenue, and cash flow.

Our main effort will go, even with a stronger focus, into building world-leading games and release those on the largest online gaming network in the world, our OSS, One Stop Shop. At Evolution, we love what we do and we do it with passion, and I want to take this opportunity to thank all of you Evolutioneers in all parts of the world.

What a great job you do. With that, we thank you for listening, and now we open up for questions, and the final slide.

Thank you.

Operator

If you wish to ask a question, please dial pound key 5 on your telephone keypad to enter the queue. If you wish to withdraw your question, please dial pound key 6 on your telephone keypad.

The next question comes from Ed Young from Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.

Ed Young

Good morning. I've got two, if that's okay.

Could you give a bit more color on Asia? I appreciate you say it's volatile, but I wonder if you could comment on what you think the background trend is in the industry or the underlying, because the revenue's been sort of bouncing around in a range for a while now.

Is the right reading of that that the market is flat, that your growth is underlying flat, or the impacts from these kind of volatile issues greater than that? I'm just trying to get an idea of the underlying trend when you say that you're confident you'll be able to defeat this in the end.

That's my first question, please.

Martin Carlesund

Good morning, Ed. Nice to hear you.

Asia is a large section on Earth. It's many countries and they come together as something we call Asia.

It's much larger than Europe. There are many different countries moving around.

I would say that there is an underlying potential growth and the effect that we see right now is coming from the cybercrime, and that is the volatility caused. We are focusing to solve that and, unfortunately, it's a little bit up and down still.

Ed Young

Okay. Then, second of all, on RNG, obviously, double-digit growth in the quarter.

You called out North America as a good market. I just wonder if you could give a bit more color as there any particular game releases that are going well, or do you think this is part of the broader commercial OSS sales effort that you're making internally, or is it just North America has been a bit better, and that's when there's just a bit more color behind the growth.

Martin Carlesund

We shouldn't overvalue North America and the comment that I made there. It's North America in the greater scheme of things still a small market in comparison to others.

We are doing better. We are now slowly building and coming to double-digit growth, which we talked about for a long time and that took long time to get there.

We are here now and it's from the total situation in RNG, not any specific market. We're happy with that, very happy with that.

Ed Young

Thank you.

Martin Carlesund

Thank you.

Operator

The next question comes from Martin Arnell from DNB Carnegie. Please go ahead.

Martin Arnell

Good morning, guys.

Martin Carlesund

On

Martin Arnell

my first question, what can you sort of learn from Asia when you were here in Q3 last year? You had the noticeable issues with the cybercrime, and what did you learn there?

Any new tools that you can use this time?

Martin Carlesund

We learn a lot all of the time and internet in general is moving forward, and I think that we are in the absolute forefront and the cutting-edge possibilities. Even though that the volatility is here, I'm quite happy with the situation that we have technically and what we are doing, and I look forward to move forward from here.

Martin Arnell

You're not overly concerned that this would get worse before better?

Martin Carlesund

I don't guide on quarter-on-quarter growth for any region, but the volatility is still here. We're not in a stable situation, as you can see.

Martin Arnell

On Europe, I think it was fairly broad-based recovery. Anything you want to highlight that changed compared to the last set of results?

Martin Carlesund

No, I think that there are still things that make the business that we do a little bit volatile and then things will move around. We're happy with the recovery and we're growing and you can also see that from the figures.

It's a good quarter in Europe.

Martin Arnell

My final question is on the games pipeline. You have released some of the Hasbro-licensed games, if you can mention anything on the reception so far.

Have you tilted the timing for the launches a little bit more skewed to later in the year, or are you on track with the release pipeline?

Martin Carlesund

I think that the reception of the games have been actually very good, and one thing that we've learned over the years is that, you can see that with Ice Fishing, which is a tremendous success, it takes a little while to build that audience that we want to have. Very, very good reception of the games that we are launching.

Are we delayed with the product roadmap? I would say that the product roadmap have been a little bit tilted towards the end all along already from when we released it, and we're of course wanting it earlier, but it's a little bit tilted towards the end.

Martin Arnell

Okay. Thank you.

Martin Carlesund

Thank you very much.

Operator

The next question comes from Charlie Muir-Sands from BNP Paribas. Please go ahead.

Charlie Muir-Sands

Good morning, gentlemen. Thank you for taking my questions.

Got a couple, please. Firstly, just on the overall group, I know that you talk about game rounds being a long-term directional indicator, but game rounds saw quite a nice pick up quarter-on-quarter, substantially ahead of the revenue growth.

I wondered if you could sort of talk about whether there's any sort of particular temporary or permanent mix effects. Perhaps it's related to this, I wondered if you can talk about what you're seeing in terms of currency headwinds from end player markets and whether those are starting to ease at all in any of those areas.

Then the second question topic is the UK. You've obviously confirmed the settlement and the financial amount.

I just wanted to get clarity that there are no further incremental technical restrictions that you've committed to have to undertake from here. I know you took some actions a while ago.

Similarly, also on the UK market, whether you'd seen any particular change in market behavior since the remote gaming duty tax rate increased in April. Thank you.

Martin Carlesund

It was a little bit of everything. I will try to remember it.

We're very satisfied with the game rounds development. As we know, entertainment is important.

Short attention span is for the coming generations. It has to be snappy, fun, really entertaining content.

We can't stay with what the industry did years and years ago and think that everyone will do the same. It won't happen, and we'll lose it.

Game rounds will need to increase more than revenue over the coming 10 years. That you should have in the backdrop.

Having that said, we're happy with the development this quarter. Joakim, you can comment on

Joakim Andersson

the On FX side, I can pick that up. As you can read in our report, in this quarter, it was a little bit less of FX headwinds on the revenue side compared to last quarters.

Then if this is kind of a sustainable thing or not, that's something we can't guess on, any of us on the call, I guess. A little bit lesser headwinds in this quarter.

Martin Carlesund

UK Gambling Commission, we've settled with them. There's been no changes in our way of doing business in UK for a while, and we have no changes coming up.

When it comes to the balance of the regulatory situation in any jurisdiction, not in particular to UK, but as soon as you raise the tax to a certain limit or to a certain bar, you will lose channellization. You have seen that in many jurisdictions now, such as UK and the Netherlands, and the channellization reached 50% levels.

That is not good. We need to see to and hope for a better balance in what the regulators do.

It's not for ours to decide, and we just act on the rules that are there, and we're very respectful to those rules, and we understand why they do them. Of course, raising the tax is negative for the channellization.

Charlie Muir-Sands

Just to clarify, when you talk about the 50%, I assume you're referring to the estimates around the Netherlands, not to a new estimate for the UK?

Martin Carlesund

I didn't refer to any specific country, but if you reach channellization of 50%, it's of course very tough.

Charlie Muir-Sands

Okay. Great.

Thank you.

Martin Carlesund

Thank you.

Operator

The next question comes from Ben Shelley from UBS. Please go ahead.

Ben Shelley

Hi, good morning. I've got three questions, if that's okay.

The first one's on Asia. Could you just elaborate more on the cybercrime issues you're seeing in Asia, and are they affecting player access, payments, operator activity, or something else?

Martin Carlesund

It's the same as we commented before. It's simply that they take our product, make a copy and redistribute it.

That's what they do. They use our product in one way or the other and they redistribute it and resell it, just like they would do with any bad comparison, a handbag or anything else, that they would make a copy and sell, they would do the same.

Ben Shelley

Got it. Then just on recent trends in Asia, have trading trends in Asia improved, worsened, or remained broadly unchanged since the end of Q2?

Martin Carlesund

What do you mean?

Ben Shelley

Have trading trends improved in Asia since the end of the quarter?

Martin Carlesund

I don't comment within the quarter. The volatility is in the quarter, as you see, and the figures are there, and we look forward to the next quarter.

Ben Shelley

Thank you. Then just on Europe.

Europe's returned to quarter-on-quarter growth for the first time in several quarters. Do you view this as the start of a more sustainable recovery, or is it still too early to draw that conclusion?

Martin Carlesund

I wish that I had a clear answer to that. I even asked that in the [telephone like?]

, is it an inflection point? I'm happy with it and I look forward to the next quarter.

Also Europe, that's the best I can give you on that. Better activity, nice to see.

Ben Shelley

Perfect. Thank you.

Martin Carlesund

Thank you.

Operator

The next question comes from Nikola Kalanoski from ABG Sundal Collier. Please go ahead.

Nikola Kalanoski

All right. Morning, gentlemen, and thanks for taking my questions.

The first one is just on the stabilization of Europe. What would you say has contributed to that stabilization on the game show front this quarter?

Has it been driven by these relatively new and popular games, such as Ice Fishing, or has the broader game shows portfolio performed strongly, would you say?

Martin Carlesund

I think that all games have performed well. Then, of course, Ice Fishing is a tremendous success.

It's becoming one of the biggest games in the whole industry, and we have done that before and we've seen it now. Of course, that contributes, but I don't think that we should overvalue it.

It's the total situation that makes the figures.

Nikola Kalanoski

Yep. Thanks for that.

Indeed, yeah, Ice Fishing looks to be a great game. Then just quickly, I guess, on the UK market, to the extent that you can answer this question.

Curious on the initial impact of this higher remote gaming duty. Have you started to see a significantly negative impact from that tax hike in Q2, and has that adversely impacted your Europe revenue significantly recently?

Martin Carlesund

We don't comment on specific market in Europe, as you know. We a while back also commented on the size of UK, and UK market is not really a huge market for Evolution, even with an impact, it's not that big.

Nikola Kalanoski

All right. Great.

Thank you very much, gentlemen.

Martin Carlesund

Thanks.

Operator

The next question comes from Monique Pollard from Citi. Please go ahead.

Monique Pollard

Morning.

Martin Carlesund

Hi,

Monique Pollard

Martin. Hi, Joakim.

I had a couple of questions, if I can. The first question was whether you could provide any update beyond what you've written in the press articles about the article from Investigate Europe and whether it's possible to access Evolution games on 1xBet from a UK IP address.

Martin Carlesund

We take all possible measures to make that not possible, and we have not been able to replicate any type of gameplay that has been stated.

Monique Pollard

That's clear. Thank you.

The second question I had, probably one for Joakim, is just about the working capital initiatives that you've been putting in place. Whether you could give us some examples of those initiatives and I don't know if you're able to quantify or give us some sense of the benefits that they're providing, please.

Joakim Andersson

Sure. Thank you.

We talked about this for a couple of quarters now, and we could see that the trend of accounts receivables were negative for us, where we're building and tying capital in receivables up until kind of the peak probably end of last year. Then we talked about it and I explained that we have put some more effort and more resources to really go through the AR and then making sure that our customers pay what they are supposed to pay, and they pay on time.

It's kind of those initiatives that we've been working with for a few months now. Even if it takes some time, and it does because it's long cycles, then now we see some benefits of that coming through.

Kind of you can quantify, you can see in the cash flow statement, and you can see on the AR side, that that's an effect of increased efforts. Quite happy with it, but we continue to work with it as well.

Monique Pollard

Very clear. Thank you.

Operator

The next question comes from Pravin Gondhale from Barclays. Please go ahead.

Pravin Gondhale

Hi. Good morning.

Thanks for taking my questions. Firstly, on M&A, now following the Galaxy development, could you just talk about your M&A pipeline?

Are there sort of any other opportunities that you're pursuing? Size and scope of those opportunities?

Then, secondly, on cost and margins. Could you just offer some steer or color on expected cost development through second half of this year and early next year and how should we be thinking about the margins from here?

Are you comfortable with your previous EBITDA margin guidance issued at last year's full year results? Thank you.

Martin Carlesund

We constantly evaluate vertically and horizontally if there's any opportunities to acquire something. I also firmly believe that you should deliver what you state that you should deliver, and that's why, even though we don't make a headline of it, but this quarter is the quarter of double-digit growth for RNG, and it took a while, but we're here now and we're proud of that, because we stated that we were going to do that.

That has to do with M&A, but not directly. We're always evaluating what we could buy.

When it comes to cost and margin, I think that we're happy with the progression of margin, we're in line with our guidance for this quarter, and we are in good cost control, managing our cash flow. Joakim and his team is doing great job and we are where we should be with those.

Joakim Andersson

The margin, the EBITDA margin for the full year remains, no questions about that.

Pravin Gondhale

Absolutely. Thank you very much.

Operator

The next question comes from Karan Puri from J.P. Karan Puri go ahead.

Karan Puri

Hi, good morning, everyone. A quick couple from my side, as well.

First one on Galaxy Gaming. I know you mentioned it's not a very meaningful transaction, but just sort of understand better in terms of what went wrong there.

That's the first question. Second one on Asia.

Is it possible to share some color on the competitive landscape evolution of the last 12 months as competition intensified or been somewhat stable? Any sort of color or data point that would be really helpful.

Thank you.

Martin Carlesund

I won't give more comments on Galaxy Gaming than what I did earlier. We are on the outside date, meaning that the time period for closure is ending actually today.

We will now continue to evaluate. We put a lot of resources and focus to close and handle administrative burden that is related to this transaction.

Of course, I also point out that as a matter of the size, it's not anything that is significant, and it doesn't affect Evolution's plans or anything else in US or elsewhere. The competitive landscape in Asia, not really changed.

I don't notice much change there. It's always been a lot of competition all from the start, and I think it's about the same.

Karan Puri

All right. Thank you so much.

Martin Carlesund

Thank you.

Operator

The next question comes from Rasmus Engberg from Kepler Cheuvreux. Please go ahead.

Rasmus Engberg

Yes, hi, guys. Thanks for taking my question.

Two questions remaining. I don't know if you can answer this, but are there any further regulatory hurdles to complete Galaxy acquisition?

Martin Carlesund

I can't comment on that right now. We will come to the decision and make an evaluation very soon.

Unfortunately, I can't give you more information on that right now.

Rasmus Engberg

Okay. Second question, we're approaching the end of the World Cup.

Has that had any impact on you? Do you anticipate any impact from it in the second half of the year?

Joakim Andersson

Very good question, to be honest. Every time we have these situations when there is World Cup or Olympic Games, we come in with it and think about that there should be a huge activity boost.

Honestly, we don't see that, actually. It's not in any way negative, but maybe it's the time zone, maybe it was, but we don't see that boost out of World Championship.

That's the remark.

Rasmus Engberg

Thanks.

Martin Carlesund

Thanks.

Operator

As a reminder, if you wish to ask a question, please dial pound key 5 on your telephone keypad. The next question comes from Jack Cummings from Berenberg.

Please go ahead.

Jack Cummings

Morning, all. Two questions, please.

First, just on RNG. Obviously, you're now back into that double-digit growth number.

You've not been there for I think it's about 3 years or so, I think it was the start of 2023. Are you confident in holding that double-digit growth rate going ahead?

Then my second question is on costs. You've talked about kind of cost control within the business.

I think headcount was broadly flat quarter-on-quarter. Should we anticipate that if you get back into year-on-year revenue growth, we'll also see growth in headcount and growth in personnel expenses?

Thank you.

Martin Carlesund

We're happy with where we are with RNG. We look forward to the coming quarters.

I won't guide on that, but now we took a good step forward with the 14% growth, we're happy with that. Coming to the cost control, I think that we are still and you saw my comment on that we are adding studios, but we're enhancing the distribution and cost mix.

Don't forget that we, during a while, had a very unfavorable cost mix and distribution. We're coming out of that, and we are in good cost control and look forward also to that part of the year.

Of course, if we see a great growth in revenue, we will also expand the cost base and expand the footprint in different markets. Leading us back to the margin, it's why we also guide on margin, right?

If the revenue is coming up, the cost will come up, but we will then maintain the 66% margin target.

Jack Cummings

Thank you.

Operator

The next question comes from Adrien de Saint Hilaire from Bank of America. Please go ahead.

Adrien de Saint Hilaire

Yes, good morning, everyone. Thanks for taking the question.

First one, on your slide number 12, you say that you have an ambition to grow in line with the market in your regions in live and RNG. Do you think that's the case right now in live or might you be underperforming the market?

Then maybe for Joakim, can you talk about how much buybacks should be coming through in Q3 and Q4? I think you've spent already above €300 million.

How much should we expect for the remainder of the year and phase between Q3 and Q4? Thank you.

Martin Carlesund

I think we can always do better. I expect more when it comes to live growth, looking forward to the rest of the year.

When it comes to the buybacks, Joakim will comment.

Joakim Andersson

Sure. For the second quarter now, we have kind of maxed out on what is possible.

Max is 25% of the daily volumes of the last 20 days daily volumes. What will happen in Q3 and Q4, it's difficult to say.

It depends on total volumes in the market, trading volumes, kind of mathematically, and then also on share price, obviously. If share price goes down or up and the volume changes, then it will be changing for us as well.

Having said that, as well, we have a €2 billion program, as you know. We, looking at the cash flow, what we have on the balance sheet, we couldn't spend the €2 billion tomorrow.

Even if the volume share price would be allowing it, it needs to be paced at a proper level.

Adrien de Saint Hilaire

Thank you.

Joakim Andersson

Thank you.

Martin Carlesund

Thank you.

Operator

The next question comes from Martin Arnell from DNB Carnegie. Please go ahead.

Martin Arnell

Hi. I just had a minor follow-up.

On the game round index slide, we can see that it's the highest ever in Q2 after the temporary dip late last year. It's up 12% versus Q4, but your revenues fairly flat to share, just trying to understand, is it mainly driven by the new game shows with lower bet amounts or is it also an improvement in the more traditional live table games that you're seeing here?

Martin Carlesund

I'm very satisfied with the development. There's always some lags.

It's not only about game rounds, it's not only about how many players are on the tables and so on. There's a lot to it and there differ in markets.

The development of the game rounds is good and it's all-time high and very happy with that. It looks good.

Martin Arnell

Okay. Thank you.

Operator

There are no more questions at this time, I hand the conference back to the speakers for any closing comments.

Martin Carlesund

Thank you very much for listening. I appreciate all your questions, look forward to see you soon again, and I look forward to Q3.

Thank you.