Alex Benos
Ladies and gentlemen, good afternoon. I am Alex Benos, CFO of Cenergy Holdings, and I'd like to welcome you on this sunny afternoon to today's live webcast on our company's 2025 financial results.
Next to me on today's call to comment and discuss their segment's performance and outlook for 2026 are Mr. Ilias Bekiros, General Manager of Corinth Pipeworks, and Mr.
Kostas Savvakis, General Manager of Hellenic Cables. Let us now follow together the highlights of our results.
2025 has been a year of very strong performance. It was characterized by growth both in revenue and operational profitability, disciplined execution in both segments, and margin expansion.
The adjusted EBITDA for the year was equal to €348 million, an increase of 28% from last year, while the revenue surpassed the €2 billion threshold, reaching €2.1 billion, 15% higher than last year, with both segments showing very strong momentum in sales. Our backlog is a robust €3.4 billion, slightly higher than the one we announced on Q3 2025, and margins have reached almost 17%, record levels for both segments, especially steel pipes, as we will discuss in a while.
The free cash flow generation was also strong at €23 million, which allowed us to finance more than €260 million of capex. Leverage is still at very low levels, almost one time EBITDA and even lower if we allow for the cash we received 15 months ago from the share capital increase in October '24, and with both segments showing important operational achievements: a capacity expansion that we've discussed quite often in the past for the cables business both for the offshore facility, which is now completed, and for the onshore facilities, the two plants in Greece, which is almost done and which is expected to wrap up in the first half of this year.
As for steel pipes, it is showing its commitment to sustainability, since it has completed the largest industrial rooftop photovoltaic system in Greece, giving almost 80% of its needs in electricity from renewable energy sources, and at the same time it has also completed the important cement weight coating for steel pipes, which allows the company to get into deep offshore projects. All of the above has put us in a good path towards setting an EBITDA guidance for 2026 in the range of €370 to €400 million, meaning that we are very likely to reach the medium-term ambition set in 2024—I remind you that was in the range of 400 and €380 to €420 million—we are expecting to reach those levels one year earlier.
Let's see together now the group key financial figures. First, looking at sales: as I said, revenues surpassed the €2.06 billion, a 15% increase from last year.
If we break that into the well-known projects and products business units, we start from the focus on cables projects, which showed a 38% increase from last year, reaching almost €790 million for the year, with steel pipes projects following suit with a lower increase in monetary terms, but an important increase in volume terms. As laid out in our press release, there was an increase of 17% in volume terms, which means that all these production enhancements that were made in the previous years and that lead to better production planning and execution led to higher volumes, which will sooner or later of course bring an increase in euro sales, dollar sales, monetary sales as well.
We should of course take into account that in this environment until Q3 the prices in the steel pipe market were lower, and that a weak US dollar made receipts in euros seem lower just by the translation effect. The important thing for steel pipes here is not the 4% increase in monetary value of sales, but the fact that an efficient production and the modern LSAW line give a much stronger revenue growth expectation.
Then we do have of course cable products, which showed a significant increase of 14% in their sales. You should also note that the split that we see between projects and products in cables is clearly moving towards projects.
It started in 2024 rather shyly, I would say, with a 52% share for projects at that time, 572 versus 526, and that is now clearer in 2025: we have €789 million from projects and only €600 million from products. The share of projects here is around 57%.
I will not comment a lot on the hollow sections sales in the steel pipes, which remain constant around €25 to €30 million every year. From a geographical standpoint, we should really keep two messages if we look at this timeline of evolution for sales.
The first one is that the prevailing share of Europe for the group, it has grown from 42 to 48 to 66, it's going towards 50-plus or 60-plus percent of the revenues, and the shrinking share of Greece. The penetration in the Americas is still moving around, having its ups, having its downs.
This of course is expected to change over the next years once the Maryland cables facility is completed, and that will give an impact on group sales starting in 2028. The value over volume strategy is still a central point in our company.
That is clearly shown by the fact that a 15% in turnover translates in almost double increase in operational profitability, we do care much more about the value we offer our clients and the profit we offer to our stakeholders rather than the volumes per se. Margins are again very strong.
They gain more than 170 basis points from 2024, reaching almost 17%. A part of it is due of course to the exceptional performance of Corinth Pipeworks, but the trend in cables is the strong underlying factor, since projects will continue to occupy more of the cables revenue and their margins, as we all know, are the stronger ones and they will keep rising.
More of that of course will be given to you later by the general manager of the segments. Looking at the backlog: the backlog is still a robust number, €3.4 billion, at the levels of 2024.
You should look at the backlog as a water tank result. It means that it depends on the inflow of new awards, but also the outflow due to execution.
If we look first at the cables segment, the awards that the cable segment got in 2025 were over €800 million. As the extra capacity in the submarine facility came into play, during the same year we had more than €900 million, €950 million executed for projects of previous years, including parts in the frame agreements.
Which means that the cables backlog actually shrank a bit, since we had more projects executed than gained. This does not of course decrease or diminish in any sense the very important amount of new awards gained throughout the year.
For steel pipes, the story is a little bit different. The new orders were higher than the projects executed and invoiced during 2025, and that led to a backlog of almost half a billion, €490 million.
The important part, however, is found in the right hand of the slide in front of you, which is diversification. If we look at the cables backlog, one could say that it's not geographical diversification which is a strong point, since most of the backlog is concentrated in Europe.
Of course we plan, as I said, to slowly change that with the cables plant in the US, which will be operational in the second semester of '27. The important point of cables is the bottom part, the applications split, which is rather balanced: 44% in interconnections due to grid enhancements necessary in Europe and elsewhere, another 30% in offshore wind, and another 30% in other, which include frame agreements.
For CPW, the story is again a little bit different. CPW is more diversified in geographies, with a large chunk of the current backlog in Americas, and the rest equally split, one would say, between Europe and the rest of world.
An important part here is that CPW is earning awards in the US despite the uncertainty in geopolitics and the tariffs imposed by the US administration. This means that the clients are willing to bear that extra cost in their budget in order to receive top-tier pipes for their project, especially deep offshore where CPW has a clear advantage.
In application using our pipes, we see that a large part, a significant part is in fossil fuel networks, oil and gas, but CCS keeps on a noteworthy 20% share in future revenues. Profitability: profitability rose at €250 million profit before taxes from €180 million last year.
The important factors that we should follow here is €61 million more gross profit from the cable segment, €14 million from steel pipes, higher of course SG&As because requirements increase with revenue rising, lower finance charges of around €18 million, 17.7, without excluding the FX cost. What is this cost of €6.6 million that we see on the chart?
The €6.6 million is the delta from FX losses and gains that we had in 2024. I remind you these are due to the fact that we have a US dollar exposure.
The US dollar exposure is due to the needs that we do have for our US plant, and as the US dollar weakened throughout the year, that produced FX accounting losses. There is also a higher impairment than 2024.
The rest are just adjustments from last year. We arrive at a PBT of €249 million, which then translates into €194 million in bottom line profit after tax.
I just note here that if you have followed through the financial results of our competitors, you will see that we are now close in absolute terms to the bottom line of two out of three of our competitors, despite the fact of course that they do have, I would say, at least 70 to 100% higher revenue than we do. This is a very promising scenario for us, and we are trying to really keep it going, because as you all know, Cenergy Holdings is deeply focused on delivering returns.
That was the message of the management throughout all these three last years. The share price has shown tremendous performance.
It has more than doubled from its level of the share capital increase in October '24. The return on capital employed is close to 30%.
It is the highest versus all competitors in the same industrial sector, and it's due of course to the profitability margins, which are very strong. Given these two positive metrics, the company would like to share some of this fruit of success with its shareholders, and especially those that followed the company in this trip to growth, which is still ongoing.
That is why the Board of Directors will propose to the Ordinary General Meeting in May the distribution of 26 cents of dividends per share, an increase which may seem very large in absolute terms, more than 80%, but still gives a yield of 1.25% compared to the share price of today, in line with industry peers. The company managed to generate positive free cash flow throughout the year.
The EBITDA of €340 million was enough, together with the changes in working capital, to pay income tax, to pay finance charges, and to cover all capex payments for the year, excluding those that were due to be financed by the share capital increase. If we look at the adjusted free cash flow, as we call it here, this is a positive €23 million.
It might not seem as a high conversion rate of EBITDA to free cash flow, but it is still very positive given the important amount of capex undertaken throughout the year. If we, of course, deduce the capex payments for the US plant, which are financed by the share capital increase cash, this turns into a negative free cash flow, and then you have almost the same amount of money that we had in the beginning of the year, we are left with the same amount of money at the end of the year.
In this calculation, of course, I should be very clear to say that the capex whose objective is to develop the US plant has a specific availability through what I would call cash in the drawer. Although in accounting terms it is included in the capex payments of the group and of the cable segment, from an analysis point of view it should be kept aside.
In a sense, it is like establishing a new company from the bottom up in the United States of America. For that company, we have received money through the share capital increase.
This money will be spent, most of it, in this year as well, as construction works are in progress as planned, and if need be, next year we will see alternative ways to finance maybe working capital or other small charges that will come up after the factory is close to operation. The balance sheet remains very disciplined.
As I told you, there were 263—almost €264 million addition to assets: €43 million for the US plant, €94 million for the offshore cables facility in Corinth, €98 million for the two facilities in Thiva and Eleonas. Thiva is almost finished.
Eleonas is also in very good shape. It will be fully, really operational and ready to show its image as a center of excellence for low-voltage and telecommunication cables September this year.
Another €29 million from the steel pipe segment. The net debt is low.
We had only an increase of €50 million, which leads to a leverage ratio of 0.6 times if the cash from the share capital increase is included. If it isn't, this 0.6 increases to 1.04, which is very respectable indeed.
Finally, the negative working capital that we see at the end of the year is really an issue of our business models with both segments dealing primarily with projects, which means that the project execution timelines and the revenue recognition timeline affect the working capital which is recorded on a specific date. Milestone payments during the last months of the year may push working capital lower.
Now they pushed it to a negative level. For your analysis, however, you should keep in mind that a normalized level of working capital for the group would be between 6 and 9% of sales, as we have also mentioned in the past.
Turning to segments, I start with cables. Cables, the story I think is a very clear and positive one.
You have a 20% increase in sales, a 34% increase in EBITDA, and a 44% increase in earnings. That's the usual waterfall of a successful company in a growing sector.
Our competitive advantage, as we said often in the past, is the same and remains the same: operational efficiency, flexibility, and commitment to quality. Mr.
Savvakis will elaborate on all these points later. As for CPW, the story here is a 4% increase in turnover, that translates to a 15% increase in adjusted EBITDA and to a more than double, 36% increase in EBT.
This is an amazing performance of a top-tier industrial producer in a rather mature sector where some larger competitors are already showing serious weaknesses. The very low net debt is really linked to the great working capital management for a sector where the raw material, steel, cannot really enjoy the privileges of a market-quoted commodity as is aluminum and copper.
Finally, after all that, we will now turn into the forward-looking perspectives of the company. I will first pass on the floor to Mr.
Kostas Savvakis, General Manager of Hellenic Cables, for his thoughts on 2026.
Kostas Savvakis
Thank you, Alexandro. I would also like to welcome you today in this webcast with the Cenergy Holdings results.
May I say that in 2025, we are glad to say that the cable segment achieved the most successful year to date. This was actually based on strong foundations that we decided the previous years, and we also took advantage favorable market conditions.
All this resulted in a record-breaking turnover and profitability, as Alexandro just said. We need also to highlight that major expansion programs across both onshore and offshore manufacturing plants in Greece are nearly completed, and there is also significant progress that has been made in the construction of our Maryland facility in the United States.
A couple of financials: we just saw that revenue for 2025 reached €1.46 billion, marking a 20% year-over-year increase. This important growth was actually driven by the continued execution of submarine and underground projects, along with resilient demand that we face for cable products.
A couple of example of notable deliveries last year: we had the Ostwind 3 project for 50Hertz in Germany. We also produced the export and the inter-array cables for the Baltic 2 and 3 offshore wind farms in Poland for Equinor.
Also in the land cable side, we manufactured the 220 kV underground cables for the Giannitsa project. Adjusted EBITDA reached €241 million, with the margins improving to 16.5%, reflecting disciplined project execution, high utilization rates across our production facilities, and of course, favorable evolution of the sales mix.
Alexandros shared with you, we are happy to say that we had €800 million of new awards last year in both land cables and subsea and offshore business, which resulted in a backlog of almost €3 billion. Actually, it's 2.9.
This order book includes turnkey projects in the high-voltage market, as well as long-term framework agreements primarily in the medium-voltage market. Some recent awards that were also press released is the Bałtyk offshore wind farm in Poland by Ocean Winds, the RTE project for Dunkirk offshore wind farm in France, and also here in Greece by our client IPTO, it's the interconnection between Corfu Island and Igoumenitsa.
Of course, on top of that, we have several framework agreements with European distribution networks that mainly involve low and medium-voltage cables. This diversified backlog in applications, products, and geographies continues to bolster confidence in our future performance.
On top of that, this order book provides very strong visibility for the coming years and reinforces the position of Hellenic Cables, as a key enabler in the energy transition. For 2026, may I say that we expect full utilization of all our manufacturing plants.
If we want to go to cross-Atlantic now, turning to United States, the development of our cable manufacturing facility in Maryland is progressing on schedule, we are on track, and we anticipate to enter the dynamic market of North America in the second half of 2027. It's important to say that USA market conditions remain strong.
The grid needs to be replaced due to its age, it's quite old the US grid, and it's also needs to be expanded and modernized in order to accommodate the increased demand for the data centers. The Maryland facility, it's important to highlight this, once operational will be strategic located and positioned in the data centers development map.
If you have a look at the East Coast, you will realize that we are exactly in the epicenter of this development. Our segment continues to experience strong demand across onshore and offshore projects, as well as solid demand for the cable products.
The high-voltage market, it is mainly driven by interconnections and offshore wind. This market remains robust, and we just stated that electricity grids are expected to see further growth fueled mainly by investments in the replacement, extension, or modernization.
Our investments and capabilities are designed to capitalize on these trends in order to enter the next phase of growth with enhanced manufacturing capacities and strong commercial momentum. In summary, for the cable segment, today's allowed me to say that the ongoing transformation of the energy landscape is generating demand for our products and services.
We face favorable market conditions driven by rising electricity needs, increased integration of renewable energy sources, and replacement of aging networks. All this have generated strong traction for Hellenic Cables.
This is a positive trend that we expect to remain in the coming years. Overall, the capacity expansions at our manufacturing facilities, our entry in the North American market through the Maryland plant, and our substantial backlog of orders reinforce optimism about our future performance.
That was about the cable segment, Alexandro.
Alex Benos
Thank you, Kostas, very much. Thank you.
Now I will pass on the floor to Ilias Bekiros, the General Manager of steel pipe segment, to talk about the outlook and the performance of the steel pipes.
Ilias Bekiros
Thank Alexandros. Thank you, Kostas.
Also, I'd like also to welcome all in this 2025 review of truly outstanding year for Cenergy, for cables, and as you can see, also for our steel pipe segment. It has indeed been a year of records, as it was last year, but even more than that, we have reached right now, as Mr.
Benos mentioned already, record numbers in terms of EBITDA at €108 million, record numbers in turnover, almost €600 million, record number in terms of margin of 18.1% in terms of EBITDA. At the same time, as mentioned already, with a very reasonable working capital percentage of around 5 to 6% and a leverage of a debt-to-EBITDA of 0.3, return on capital employed over 30%.
These are outstanding numbers for a sector, as we mentioned, that it is considered to be mature and not at a growth phase. Maturity means both in terms of demand and also of course in terms of competition that we closely monitor.
There are competitors from our side that are far away right now from our numbers and our performance and face strong hurdles and strong headwinds in terms of their backlog, while at the same time we grow and we capitalize more and more in what we do. This is a Corinth Pipeworks model that obviously works, and we are very proud about that.
At the same time, from the demand side, we can say that generally there is a sustained demand when it comes to natural gas across the globe. We always look at the large-diameter pipes in demand on a global scale and on a global basis.
We can see a lot of demand in Asia-Pacific right now. North America is super strong.
The offshore and deep offshore market always remain quite strong. Europe is weak from the traditional markets, but heading towards stronger terms when it comes to carbon capture and storage mainly, and hydrogen even though lagging a little bit.
Let's not forget of course that for us what is important is that the infrastructure is being built right now both for carbon capture and for hydrogen. The molecule of hydrogen will come at a certain point to get into the grid, but the infrastructure needs to be done right here, right now, and the backbone is being built with us having a very strong participation on all this.
All in all, we are cautiously optimistic for the next two to three years when it comes to the momentum of the sector, and we are truly optimistic on what we do. From the Greek side, from the Greek facility, also as you can see from the more analytical figures, our capex gets smaller year-on-year basis.
We have done already our investments in debottlenecking, in incremental capacity increases, and cost efficiency. Let's not forget that one of the key points of our success is not only the increased sales in terms of value, but of course the cost efficiency and the cost effectiveness.
This is the model that we keep being very focused on and having a very strong control in our cost structure, and this is going truly well. Last but not least, probably you have seen our latest news, today's news of an acquisition of a new facility: Hartlepool LSAW line in the UK is part of our plants now of Corinth Pipeworks' strong force.
This is an LSAW plant with a very strong heritage from the past, very similar business model in the past with the LSAW part of Corinth Pipeworks. Nevertheless, this plant has suffered a lot of changes of ownership without any one of them being fully focused on the pipe sector.
Right now, this was an asset deal, not a company deal, and these assets are going to be fully utilized by Corinth Pipeworks. We are really proud for that.
This doubles our LSAW capacity and brings us with a new non-EU production footprint that is definitely important for various places geographically, and of course very important even for the UK decarbonization sector, which is strong and powerful right now, with various carbon capture projects and hydrogen projects being built and also designed for the future. All in all, we remain optimistic.
We are keeping costs under control, margins under control, and we look at the future with quite a lot of optimism, at least for the next two, three years that we can foresee right now. Thank you, Alexandros.
Alex Benos
Thank you, Ilias. I will go back now to our boring numbers, and the story continues.
Given all the above, the performance of this year and the outlook ahead, we estimate operational profitability for next year between €370 to €400 million, reaching our medium-term ambitions a year earlier. I will close with a note on our financial calendar, since it is slightly altered than last year.
By the end of March, our annual report will be published. End of May, we do have our Ordinary General Meeting of '26 and the trading update on the first-quarter results.
This year, it comes earlier, just before your summer vacation: we will announce in the first week of August the financial results for the first semester of 2026. I would like to thank you so much for your attention, and I now turn to our operator to give you a brief guidance on how questions and answers will work.
Operator
Ladies and gentlemen, if you would like to ask a question live, please use the raise hand feature at the bottom of your Zoom window. You may also submit your questions in writing using the Q&A panel.
Thank you for your participation.
Alex Benos
Thank you, Mrs. Koraka.
I will start with a question that was in a sense answered through the presentation, question by Mr. Bruno Raget.
The capacity expansions in cables for Greece, they are all in production, in operation right now. The only part which is expected to enter in 2026 is the small part concerning the land, the onshore cables in Thiva and Eleonas, medium and high voltage, and mostly low voltage.
As for North America, as we said, the operation of the plant will start in the second semester of 2027. Of course, it will need at least 15 months to ramp up, so that means that the actual monetary impact on revenue will be seen in 2028.
There is a question by Mr. Marios Bourazanis.
Mr. Bourazanis, you have the floor.
Marios Bourazanis
Great. I hope you can hear me.
Thank you so much for your presentation. Just a couple of questions on my side.
I just wanted to ask, given the recent developments involving Iran and considering that aluminum is a key input for cables, if you see any potential impact on your supply chain or on any input availability, and if you could give us an indication of maybe how long your current inventories could cover production needs if these disruptions were to persist. That's my first question.
I could also ask my second question. Also wanted to ask on Maryland.
You mentioned in the presentation right now that you're expecting the first year to be 2028 of production. Will this be full production or will ramp up be, as you said, more gradual and maybe it will contribute for half a year in 2028?
Those are my two questions.
Alex Benos
Let me again clarify that, Marios, for the US, and then I will let of course Mr. Savvakis answer the first question.
What we say is that the factory will be operational in the second semester of '27. The factory being operational means it will be producing and selling.
No one can expect that in September or October '27, the sales of a brand new facility will be enough to impact—I use the word impact—the group's revenue. It may be a revenue of $10, $20, $30 million, which means that the EBITDA will be in the single digits, so that is not something that will change the picture that you see right now.
That picture will change by the end of fiscal year 2028, when we will have much more ramped-up production in the areas of hundreds of millions of dollars. I often said that the capacity of that plant is around $250 million.
Nobody can say when exactly that capacity will be reached, but we are confident that it will be reached by the end of 2028. That's why the impact to the group's numbers will be in '28.
The factory will be, however, operational, producing and selling, by the second semester of 2027. Kostas, you have the floor on the aluminum supply chain question, please.
Kostas Savvakis
Yes. Indeed, that's a very reasonable question.
We actually have no issues due to the war in Iran. Our supply chain has not been disrupted at all, and it's not expected to be.
All the critical materials we already have in big safety stock in our yard, I don't see any issue coming up.
Marios Bourazanis
That's clear. Thank you.
Just to clarify maybe on Maryland, I was just asking, maybe more around licensing and that sort of part of the equation, not so much about production, maybe you can comment on that about the timing for 2028 production.
Kostas Savvakis
Kostas, may I—
Alex Benos
Kostas, yeah, of course,
Kostas Savvakis
of course. Indeed, certifications in North America, it's also part of the process.
It's depending on the product range, it can last from months or less, actually. This has been included in our forecast when we say that our first financial years gradually, it will be the 2028.
Marios Bourazanis
That's clear. Thank you very much.
Alex Benos
There is a question by Mr. Stathis Kaparis.
Please, Stathis.
Stathis Kaparis
Hello, can you hear me now?
Alex Benos
Hello, yes, yes, we can hear you.
Stathis Kaparis
Hi, everyone. Thanks for the call.
I've got two questions, if I may. The first one is around capex expectations for 2026, including Maryland.
Does it make sense that they should remain at around this levels? Again, including the capex spending in Maryland and maintenance capex for pipes and cables.
That's number one. Number two, if you can give us a color on embedded margins on the order book, especially on the pipe segment.
I understand you're fairly optimistic, there seems to be quite a decent demand. Can we maintain the margins around this levels?
Thank you.
Alex Benos
I will start with the capex question, and then I will leave of course Mr. Bekiros to give you a little bit more color.
The capex, as I said, for the US plant is another €120 million at least for 2026. This is just by subtracting out of the €200 million what has already been spent in '25 and a part on '24.
If we leave out the €120 million, you should expect an amount around €100 million for the non-US plants, meaning Greece, maybe the new CPW plant if Mr. Bekiros wants to give some color on that, the Thiva, Eleonas.
Of course, a large part of this €100 million is maintenance, because maintenance turns around €55 to €60 million. You're left with investments of I wouldn't call them strategic, but value-creation investments of €40 to €45 million for the two segments.
Ilias, I remind there are two questions: the one was about the margins of CPW. If you want to add some color about the Hartlepool plant, please, you're welcome.
Yeah.
Ilias Bekiros
The margins question is a very understandable one, and I can see that there's also a written question around that from Mr. Kollias.
Margins, first of all, when you are into the project business and there's basically no commodity base load or not really a products base load to be working on, or it's very small, that means that depending on the mix of the projects, the margins could really be affected significantly. Nevertheless, as I said, our model lies more on the very demanding sectors, on the applications, the offshore, deep offshore applications where the biggest turnover and profitability come from.
This is what you expect to have also in the future. Yes, the 18% is a outstanding number.
We might see that going down a little bit in the future, but we expect that we will still be more than an average of the competition right now or the sector, which might be at 10 or 12% as a standard or as a good case. Therefore, maybe if a 10, 12% is a characteristic of the sector, we expect to be at the 14 to 16 or even to 18%, as you can see there, and this will remain sustainable.
Of course, on the other side, we need to look at the percentages on one side and the values on the other side. Having another facility, of course, brings more quantity that needs to enter into the market.
We expect to increase our turnover in the future with the addition of Hartlepool right now from the UK facility. We expect that the margins will be kept at at least a sector-base plus as CPW, and there is the chance, of course, and the possibility that in terms of values the EBITDA will increase, and we will strive and we will do our best to keep the percentages as high as possible, of course, in all the markets that we are in right now.
Alex Benos
Okay. Now there is a question by Mr.
Thijs Berkelder. Thijs, you have the floor.
Yes? We cannot hear you.
Maybe it's a technical problem. We will wait a little bit.
I'll come back to you, Thijs. Mr.
Peter Testa now can ask his question.
Peter Testa
Yes, can you hear me fine?
Alex Benos
Sure, sure. Absolutely.
Peter Testa
Thank you very much. Maybe just continuing on from the pipe side, since we've just touched on that with the new facility.
You talked about the capacity as related to LSAW relative to Corinth. I was wondering if you could give some sort of context for pipes as a whole, as to how much capacity you've acquired and what you think the opportunity in the existing backlog, or is it new business that will bring that business up to Corinth sort of margins?
Yeah.
Ilias Bekiros
I'd say that generally, as we mentioned, the market is considered to be a mature market. Therefore, we do not foresee that on global scale, on global basis, especially when it comes to the LSAW part, the demand is rising significantly.
Incrementally we would say that it is rising, and we always need to see on the regional aspects, of course, of this increase. For example, as we said, Asia-Pacific is showing increased growth, Middle East is showing increased growth, North America also.
Other markets in the traditional sector, like Europe or like other markets, they're not so strong. At the same time, we also see increased growth in carbon capture and hydrogen, and this is where mainly also our additional capacity comes into play.
The UK facility will accommodate for the North market a lot, for the North European market and the northwest continental shelf, as well as also the offshore and deep offshore markets, especially with carbon capture and hydrogen on a global scale. It's hard to put a number on the total demand globally how much this increases.
There are lots of applications, lots of sectors and subsectors in these, but as mentioned, we expect a small incremental increase in demand, and we expect that we grab a significant piece out of this with the additional capacity that we will have, especially in the demanding applications, of course. Yes,
Peter Testa
please. What is the revenue capacity or tonnage?
How can you put the context in the totality of Corinth pipe, as opposed to just LSAW?
Ilias Bekiros
That is a good point. Right now, if you add up the numbers, you can see that we have around 400,000 tonnes of capacity spiral, another 400 of ERW, this is 800, another 400 of LSAW, 1.2 million.
We have a small ERW line which adds 2.15, 1.35 million is the capacity right now, the nominal capacity of CPW in Greece. You can add approximately the same level of the LSAW capacity that we have in Greece, it's going to be added from the UK facility, another 400,000 tonnes.
We reach a 1.7 million, 1.75 million tonnes of total capacity of all manufacturing processes right now.
Alex Benos
Sorry, Peter, because there's a lot of other people waiting, I have to change a little bit the form. If we do have time, you can come back.
All the capacity numbers, of course, Ilias, are nominal capacity.
Ilias Bekiros
Nominal, as I mentioned,
Alex Benos
yes. Exactly.
I have to give back the floor to Thijs Berkelder, because he was not able to comment before. Thijs, can you hear us, and can we hear you?
Thijs Berkelder
Hi, Alexandro. Can you
Alex Benos
hear me? We can hear you.
We can hear you. Please.
Thijs Berkelder
Great. Thanks.
First, congrats with the strong results and the strong outlook. Can you remind us what cable project margins were in '25?
I'm also puzzling on Hartlepool, of course, that we meanwhile got some indications. Is Hartlepool already included in your 2026 guidance on revenues and EBITDA or not yet?
What size of order backlog does Hartlepool already have? Thirdly, sorry, we've seen quite a lot of cable projects being announced by IPTO, but also a lot of pipeline projects being announced, for instance, by Alaska LNG.
Can you give us an update when you expect to announce your first HVDC project and or when we can expect Alaska LNG to take off?
Alex Benos
I will get the easy ones, and then I will let the difficult ones to my colleagues. The margins of projects, as always, I remind you, are as follows: submarine cable projects, they turn at 22, 23% plus, and a little bit higher if it is an EPCI one.
Onshore projects, if they are related to an offshore, they're close to 18 to 20%. If not, medium voltage offshore they are close to 20% if they are related to submarine and to an offshore wind farm—I'm talking about inter-arrays.
If not, the medium-voltage cables have lower project margins. As for low voltage and telecommunication, they are in the single digit, 5 to 6 to 7%.
Now, the Hartlepool numbers have not been included in our budget, neither in terms of revenue, nor in terms of EBITDA, nor in terms of guidance, they are not in there. There's a question of when will and what do we expect from Hartlepool in terms of money, and for Kostas, what is the expected time of the first HVDC project.
Ilias Bekiros
Yeah. Just to add on the expectation from Hartlepool and also for Alaska pipeline, both questions are very accurate and very good ones, with good points.
We have been expecting that Hartlepool, since this was operational till around November, there was no backlog heritage that we would get. Actually right now, the customer contracts that we are inheriting are very, very small up to negligible, I'd say.
We need to build a new backlog or transfer backlog, of course, from what we have, and increase further more our backlog now for both sides and both facilities. You can imagine, first of all, exactly as Mr.
Benos said, we have not included any provision. The announcement was just done today, there's no provision on the results from Hartlepool.
The second part is also we do not expect significant numbers during 2026 coming from Hartlepool activity, exactly because, as you can imagine, we need to bring this facility back into normal operation, and there is a need for some minor capex that needs to be done, maintenance mainly, in order to get that back in order, and of course build new backlog for this facility, which cannot of course be expected to be done within two or three months. This will take a little bit more time, we will need to see later during the year what this might mean for Hartlepool.
Yet, we are optimistic that we will build more activity there. From the Alaska pipeline side, yes, you've seen the news that there is a conditional award right now, which means basically a promise of a commitment from Alaska LNG, from Glenfarne, to CPW for actually approximately 230 to 240,000 tonnes.
This is one-third of the project. This is a significant number.
It has not been included in any, of course, forecast that we do, because it is not an award, it is a conditional one. Of course, as this is a humongous project and needs government financing, we expect this to happen within the coming months, but we cannot of course commit into whether this is going to happen as an investment decision and a PO in March, or in April, or in May.
I would say, though, somewhere within the coming three months we expect more firm news from this project.
Kostas Savvakis
Thank you.
Ilias Bekiros
Kostas?
Kostas Savvakis
Yes. There was a question about the DC market and products regarding Hellenic.
May I a little bit highlight and remind that in 2025, we completed the entire 525 kV DC qualification. Hellenic Cables, on top of the 320 kV solution, now we are successfully qualified also for the 525.
We also press released some months ago that we are approved and we have joined the National Grid in UK for the 525 frame agreement we have with them. If I may say, we are heavily tendering for DC projects, and we are on the very right track to step in this market as well.
Alex Benos
Kostas, I would like, since we are discussing on the outlook, there is a chat which was sent out by Maarten about our optimism on the offshore wind farms in Northern Europe. They write, 'Lately many projects have been cancelled or postponed, so that makes us a little bit surprised by that statement.
Could you explain your optimism? How many offshore wind farm tenders will be this year in '27, and when looking at the production capacity for inter-array cables, what do we see happening in Europe?'
Kostas Savvakis
We have some facts about offshore wind. We see some projects moving a little bit slower than initially anticipated, but there are some facts.
We had recently a very good announcement from UK about the latest allocation round, the AR7, which was marked as the largest auction of its kind in Europe. We said a very, very good outcome of this auction.
We know that in UK, which is a very mature market, there is the allocation round eight coming, maybe this year, latest in one year time from now. We have seen also other countries having a step forward.
For example, Poland awarded tariffs to three projects in December, 3.4 GW. In Ireland, we saw also one project with 1 GW.
If I may go in a little bit more political side, we saw recently the recent North Summit, which was nine countries, nine head states. They signed the declaration aiming for 300 GW of offshore wind capacity by 2050.
On top of that, if I may add, the energy security and energy independence agenda, in my view and in our view, offshore wind is a necessity for Europe. Yes, indeed, the initial timelines may be moving a little bit slower than initially anticipated, but the facts that I just shared with you, we can say that the market remains robust.
Alex Benos
This is clear. I can have one other, because I was a little bit abrupt with my friend Mr.
Testa. If you still have your question, you're still with us, we could go with your last question on that, because we're already above our one-hour slot.
Peter, if you can hear us, please jump in. No, maybe he has left.
I will apologize to him later on. Ladies and gentlemen, thank you so much for your patience and for your attention.
I wish you a very nice afternoon. Thank you again from all of us.
Kostas Savvakis
Thank you very much.
Ilias Bekiros
Thank you.
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