Gibson Energy Inc.

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Q4 FY2025 · Earnings Call TranscriptFebruary 18, 2026

Operator

Good morning, everyone, and welcome to the Gibson Energy fourth-quarter and full-year 2025 conference call. Please be advised that this call is being recorded.

I will now like to turn the meeting over to Beth Pollock, Vice President, Capital Markets and Corporate Development. Ms.

Pollock, please go ahead.

Beth Pollock

Thank you, [Towanda?] , and good morning.

Thank you for joining us to discuss Gibson Energy's fourth-quarter and full-year 2025 results. Joining me on the call today are Curtis Philippon, President and Chief Executive Officer, and Riley Hicks, Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer.

Additional members of our senior management team are also present to assist with the question-and-answer portion of the call. Listeners are reminded that today's call will reference non-GAAP financial measures and forward-looking information, which are subject to certain assumptions and risks.

Descriptions and reconciliations of these measures as well as related disclosures are available in our investor presentation and continuous disclosure documents on SEDAR+ and on our website. I will now turn the call over to Curtis.

Curtis Philippon

Thank you, Beth, and good morning, everyone. I'm pleased to discuss Gibson's fourth-quarter and full-year 2025 results.

I'll begin with a few highlights and then turn it over to Riley to walk through our financial results and balance sheet, before I conclude the call with some closing remarks. At the outset of 2025, we established five strategic priorities: safety, Gateway execution, growth, high-performance teams, and cost discipline.

Over the course of 2025, we delivered on our key objectives across each of these areas, exiting the year delivering infrastructure segment growth and a clear line of sight to the next phase of our growth as outlined at our December Investor Day. From a safety perspective, we surpassed 10 million hours without a lost-time injury and safely completed two major turnarounds at our Moose Jaw facility and the Hardisty diluent recovery unit.

Most notably, we are proud to finish 2025 as the top-performing midstream company in North America on the key metric of total recordable injury frequency. At Gateway, we successfully executed both the dredging project and the Cactus II pipeline connection, increasing throughput to a new high-water mark of 815,000 barrels per day in January of 2026, and delivering on our 15% to 20% run rate EBITDA growth objective in the fourth quarter that was established when we acquired the asset in 2023.

During the fourth quarter, we sanctioned the $50 million Wink to Gateway Integration project, which will enhance supply optionality and increase throughput capacity. The project is expected to enter service in the third quarter.

The cost focus campaign was a success. In 2025, we generated more than $25 million of recurring and non-recurring cost savings, increasing DCF per share by 8%.

This efficient and cost-competitive focus sets us up well for continued success. Finally, on the people front, we've built a strong team that delivered on our goals this year.

This group is passionate about supporting our customers exceptionally well and is well-positioned to lead us into a successful 2026. Turning to the financials, our 2025 results reflect the successful execution of our crude oil infrastructure strategy.

We delivered record infrastructure adjusted EBITDA of $622 million for the full year, including a new quarterly high-water mark in the fourth quarter. Infrastructure throughput across our core terminals increased approximately 13% or 95 million barrels year-over-year.

This performance was driven primarily by higher volumes at Gateway and Edmonton, as well as the completion of the dredging, Cactus II, and Baytex infrastructure capital projects during the year. The strength and quality of our cash flows improved as we renewed several major long-term contracts, all between 10 and 20 years in duration across our Edmonton and Hardisty terminals.

These take-or-pay extensions increased our contract backlog by approximately $500 million. The renewals, supported by high-quality counterparties, included senior integrated energy companies and a multinational refiner, reinforced the strength and sustainability of our cash flows.

Complementing our infrastructure growth, last week, we announced that we had entered into an agreement to acquire Teine Energy's Chauvin crude oil infrastructure assets for $400 million. This acquisition is expected to close in the second quarter of 2026, subject to regulatory approvals.

The Chauvin pipeline will strengthen our Hardisty platform by extending our connectivity into the prolific Mannville stack, adding long-term contracted cash flows, and providing near-term expansion opportunities, including the Gibson-Hardisty connection project, which was announced and conditionally sanctioned subject to regulatory approvals. The transaction was executed at a mid-7-times multiple with a clear path to less than 7 times as we execute on identified growth and optimization opportunities.

We expect the transaction to be mid-single-digit accretive to distributable cash flow per share. With the proceeds of the $215 million equity financing that closed yesterday, the acquisition will be leverage-neutral, with our investment-grade credit ratings confirmed by both DBRS and S&P.

At Investor Day, we outlined a clear roadmap to deliver over 7% annual infrastructure EBITDA growth over the next five years. The progress achieved in 2025, combined with our recent Chauvin acquisition and its associated growth projects, positions us well to execute on this plan.

I'll now turn the call over to Riley.

Riley Hicks

Thank you, Curtis. 2025 was a strong year for Gibson, and I'll walk through our fourth-quarter and full-year financial results, followed by an update on our financial position and capital allocation priorities.

Our focus remains unchanged: disciplined financial management, maintaining a strong balance sheet, and adhering to our financial principles. These principles helped lead us to a strong fourth quarter and a record year from an infrastructure standpoint, reflecting the quality and resilience of our crown jewel asset base.

In the fourth quarter, infrastructure delivered record adjusted EBITDA of approximately $160 million, driven by contributions from recently completed capital projects, continued strong performance across our terminal network, and the full quarter benefit of the Gateway dredging work completed earlier in 2025. Touching quickly on our marketing segment, the business continued to operate in a challenging environment during the quarter.

Tight heavy oil differentials, limited crude storage opportunities, and seasonal asphalt storage reduced available arbitrage during the quarter. As a result, marketing adjusted EBITDA was approximately $1 million.

While this is at the low end of our previously communicated guidance range, it represents a $6 million improvement over the fourth quarter of last year. As we think about our business holistically, marketing now represents a smaller portion of consolidated EBITDA, underscoring the increasing stability and contracted nature of our cash flow profile.

Looking ahead, we are reiterating our previously communicated marketing guidance range of $0 to $10 million per quarter. Market conditions in Canada remain efficient, and we have not seen a structural shift away from crude backwardation.

On a consolidated basis, Gibson generated adjusted EBITDA of approximately $145 million in the fourth quarter, reflecting strong infrastructure performance and an increase of $15 million compared to the prior year. Distributable cash flow for the quarter was approximately $79 million, representing an increase of $8 million compared to the fourth quarter of 2024.

Turning to our full-year results, 2025 was a great year for Gibson. Infrastructure adjusted EBITDA totaled $622 million, up from $601 million last year, driven mainly by higher volumes at Gateway and Edmonton, the success of our cost savings initiative, and contributions from key capital projects coming online.

Marketing adjusted EBITDA totaled approximately $15 million for the year, reflecting a challenging environment for both crude marketing and our refined products business. As a result, consolidated adjusted EBITDA was $581 million, and distributable cash flow was approximately $337 million.

Looking at our current financial position, we remain aligned with our financial principles, maintaining a strong balance sheet and meaningful capital flexibility. We remain prudent capital allocators focused on maximizing long-term shareholder value through investing in high-quality infrastructure projects, as shown by our strategic acquisition of the Chauvin infrastructure assets.

Following the announcement of this acquisition alongside two actionable growth projects, we have now adjusted our 2026 growth capital outlook to reflect $100 million of organic growth capital. This includes capital related to our previously sanctioned Wink to Gateway Integration project.

The change in outlook reflects our continued focus on disciplined, customer-backed infrastructure growth, while ensuring we preserve our balance sheet strength. At year-end, net debt to adjusted EBITDA was approximately 3.9 times, reflecting the timing of capital deployment and lower marketing contributions in 2025.

With full-year EBITDA contributions from recently completed projects and a reduction in growth capital to $100 million in 2026, we expect leverage to trend down lower over the course of the year. On an infrastructure-adjusted basis, leverage was approximately 4 times, which is consistent with our commitment to maintain infrastructure leverage at or below that level.

Importantly, as part of our recent transaction, both S&P and DBRS have reaffirmed our stable, investment-grade credit ratings. Our dividend payout ratio was approximately 84% on a trailing 12-month basis.

Over the long term, we continue to target a sustainable payout range of 70% to 80% of distributable cash flow. On an infrastructure-only basis, the payout was 78%, which is comfortably below our target of less than 100%.

As our infrastructure segment continues to grow and become a larger proportion of our earnings, we expect our consolidated payout ratios to migrate towards our long-term range. The continued growth of our high-quality infrastructure cash flows during the year supports our seventh consecutive annual dividend increase, bringing the quarterly dividend to 45 cents per share, an increase of 5% year-over-year.

We remain focused on delivering long-term value for our shareholders as we enter 2026 from a position of strength. I will now pass the call back to Curtis for his closing remarks.

Curtis Philippon

In closing, we made meaningful progress in 2025 as we executed on our five key priorities: safety, Gateway execution, growth, high-performance teams, and cost discipline. We also delivered record infrastructure results, marked by a new high-water mark in Q4.

As we start 2026, we are once again focused on five strategic priorities: maintaining our industry-leading safety performance, increasing the utilization of our assets, growing our infrastructure business, advancing technology and AI-driven initiatives to drive efficiency, and further enhancing the high-performance ownership culture. We also look forward to integrating the Chauvin pipeline into our portfolio, subject to regulatory approvals.

With continued discipline and focus, we are confident Gibson is well-positioned for its next phase of infrastructure-led growth and to deliver on the Investor Day strategy from a position of strength. With that, I'll turn the call back to the operator to open the line for questions.

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, to ask a question, please press star one-one on your telephone, then wait for your name to be announced.

To withdraw your question, please press star one-one again. Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster.

Our first question comes from the line of Aaron MacNeil with TD Cowen. Your line is open.

Aaron MacNeil

Hey, morning, all. Thanks for taking my questions.

Curtis, presumably you looked at a lot of opportunities prior to pursuing the Teine acquisition. How should we think about M&A for Gibson going forward?

Would you describe this as a bit of a unique opportunity, or was there a bit more depth to the M&A opportunity set?

Curtis Philippon

Hey, morning, Aaron. We definitely look at a lot of different things.

I'd say a year ago, we were very focused on Gateway execution, and it was important for us to be delivering on that significant acquisition we did back in 2023. A year ago, although we were looking at a lot of things, we were cautious on that.

We wanted to make sure we delivered well on Gateway. Over the last year, we proved that we could deliver well on Gateway.

I think that that ability to go deliver on that project, combined with at a macro level, when we look at the opportunity set out there, we see some interesting opportunities for M&A. That got us more active over the last six months, looking at a wide range of different opportunities.

In particular, we were looking for things that were crude-focused, connected to our current platform, and ideally, just continued to derive that same contract profile, customer quality profile that we were looking for. I think there's a few things out there we looked hard at.

Chauvin was just the perfect fit. Hardisty is our backyard.

That's where we've been for 70 years. It is the core crown jewel of the Gibson asset base.

When the opportunity came up to add Chauvin to the story and help extend the reach of that Hardisty platform, that was the most attractive one that we wanted to act on.

Aaron MacNeil

Makes sense. Switching gears, and fully appreciating that you've reiterated the $0 to $10 million marketing guidance, but we're starting to observe some positive signals for this business, including higher apportionment levels on Enbridge mainline, storage levels ticking up, wider heavy oil differentials, although maybe not for the same reasons we've seen in the past.

Appreciating that this is all early days, what would you sort of guide us to in terms of looking for market signals or variables that we should be looking at as we think about the outlook for the segment?

Curtis Philippon

I think it's fair to see we're encouraged by some slightly wider diffs and a few positive indicators out there. I would completely agree with your assessment, though, that this is early days.

If you look at our track record over the last year, we've been firmly in that $0 to $10 million a quarter range. I expect that's where we're going to be in 2026 as well.

There's still very low levels of storage out there right now, and so each of these volatility events that happen that in the past maybe drove higher marketing earnings have a much more muted effect in an environment where you have very low crude inventories. I think that'll persist through the year is what my expectations are.

I think you'll see a fairly muted year for marketing. The big thing you would look for is we're still a very backwardated market, and so I think that that'd be the one thing to maybe watch for.

If you get into a contango market, that's a significant shift. We've been in this backwardated market for quite a long period of time.

In time, that will change, and there'll be contango opportunities that provide a great opportunity for Gibson to use its assets well to capitalize on that. Until you see that, I think you'll still be in that $0 to $10 range.

Aaron MacNeil

Fair enough. Thanks, Curtis.

I'll turn it back.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Jeremy Tonet with J.P.

Morgan Securities. Your line is open.

Eli Jossen

Hey, this is Eli on for Jeremy. Just wanted to start on the expansion opportunities at Chauvin.

Could you just provide some incremental color on the timing and return profile here and how these stack up against other opportunities across the portfolio and also get you to the kind of that 5-to-7 acquisition multiple that you highlighted? Thanks.

Curtis Philippon

Thanks, Eli. We messaged that right out of the gate, we see a number of interesting growth projects that come with Chauvin.

That's one of the really attractive things about Chauvin is it really gives us a nice runway of growth projects over the next few years. Immediately out of the gate, once we're closed, there's two projects that we see acting on.

One is the Hardisty connection project to connect the Chauvin pipeline into our Hardisty Gibson facility. That is one that will sanction immediately after regulatory closing.

We expect that is roughly a 12-month process from that period, from when we officially sanction it. Then the second one is the expansion project.

The expansion project's exciting. The pipeline is currently operating at near full at sort of 30,000 barrels a day capacity, and we see an opportunity to expand that to 45,000 barrels a day and have I think an interesting opportunity with that.

The timing on that is realistically anywhere from 18 to 24 months from the closing of the transaction for all of the work involved with the preparation and the execution of that expansion. Overall, we've messaged that we did this acquisition at a mid-7-times multiple.

Those two projects are strong, and those two projects will immediately drive this acquisition into a sub-7-times multiple range.

Eli Jossen

Awesome. Then I know the transaction was leverage-neutral, and you have added some kind of attractive growth capex that you can continue to chip away at.

Can you just kind of post-transaction close reframe the overall capital allocation waterfall and how you kind of see growth capex shaping up versus other competing priorities and maybe just whether buybacks remain part of the story longer term? Thanks.

Riley Hicks

Thanks, Eli, it's Riley. What we think about capital allocation, our priorities, they really haven't changed.

We think about funding our business first, which means maintaining a strong balance sheet, investing in infrastructure growth, and funding our dividend. As we sit today, buybacks are certainly a great tool that we can have in our toolkit, but as we look at our balance sheet today, we'll need to see that kind of get back into our 3 to 3.5 times range before we would start to consider those buybacks.

Then they would have to compete for capital allocation with the great infrastructure projects that we see ahead of us. We're going to continue to be prudent and disciplined and invest in our business.

Eli Jossen

All right. Thanks, guys.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Sam Burwell with Jefferies.

Your line is open.

Sam Burwell

Hey, good morning, guys. Just another one on the Chauvin acquisition.

Just curious what attributes of the asset make you most confident in being able to sanction the expansion? Is it just the amount of volumes that are currently trucked or the production growth profile or anything else?

Then sort of piggybacking on to that, is there an opportunity to meaningfully take up the take-or-pay portion of the capacity on the pipeline?

Curtis Philippon

Morning, Sam. What gets us excited is this is our backyard, we know it quite well.

We know the customers quite well in that area, and we know the geology in that area is driving a lot of great activity there. The pipe is already running at near capacity.

We see a very actionable path that you can expand that capacity and achieve some very good utilization even on the expanded pipe. Feel very confident on that.

As far as shifting it to a take-or-pay structure on the expanded capacity, absolutely. That's part of our strategy.

We're still very early days. This transaction is not even closed yet, but I think with a midstreamer now owning the pipe, I think you see a slightly different strategy coming in now for us to be able to partner with our customers to perhaps look at different take-or-pay structures.

I would point that specifically, we see a lot of really interesting opportunities to extend the reach of the pipe, and that there's a number of our customers that are currently needing to truck the last leg into the Chauvin pipe to get access to it. We think there's a really interesting opportunity for us to help them find a netback win by extending the pipe reach and tie that in perhaps to some take-or-pay structure on the contract as well.

Sam Burwell

Okay. That certainly makes sense.

Then next one sort of touches on Venezuela, and obviously, it's still very, very early. Just curious for your view on whether you think that more Venezuelan barrels hitting PADD 3, coming on to the Gulf Coast, and presumably taking the PADD 3 slate heavier, might offer you greater opportunities around more exports from Gateway of light crudes and possibly making expansion projects down there more viable?

Curtis Philippon

Interesting. I think Venezuela, obviously, we're watching Venezuela closely.

I think it's interesting. One, I think as everybody is saying, I think there's still a lot of question marks around what exactly plays out in Venezuela, and there's still a lot of work to do to actually see a sustained increase in production and a sustained shift in where those volumes are going to have a meaningful impact on that.

I'd say Gibson is in a unique position to see upside around that, though, if there is an impact on diffs potentially, there's an impact for Gibson's marketing business that you could perhaps see from Venezuelan crude coming into there. Perhaps you could make the leap to increasing activity around Gateway.

One of the interesting observations some of our customers have made around Gateway is that some of the change in flows and the fact that the US has a greater influence on those flows of crude coming out of Venezuela just increases the amount of ship traffic in the area that's sort of controlled by customers and sort of entities that are out of the US, and that's helpful for our Gateway customers for getting ease of access to ships to have efficient shipping out of Gateway. It's a bit of a unique unexpected upside that we're hearing from our customers of perhaps some sort of shipping efficiency increasing with the Venezuela changes.

Sam Burwell

Okay. Understood.

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Robert Hope with Scotiabank.

Your line is open. Good

Robert Hope

morning, everyone. Want to go back to M&A.

Teine was a nice tuck-in. How does the M&A pipeline look for further tuck-ins?

Are you seeing nice deal flow or do you want to take a little time to integrate that asset before getting back on the hunt?

Curtis Philippon

We'll keep looking at. I think at a macro level, Rob, is what I think is super interesting is that there's been such a rush towards gas assets in the overall market that I think that creates an interesting opportunity for Gibson that has a crude-focused strategy, that there are some excellent crude assets out there that are potentially not the top focus for some companies that are perhaps shifting a bit more towards some gas-focused assets.

We love those crude assets. We think those crude assets, with the right attributes in the right location, are going to be things that are going to be great assets for the rest of our lifetime, and we'll be active in looking at those, both in Canada and in the US.

In saying all that, we're a pretty disciplined operator, and so Chauvin was a big deal for us. We're going to be focused in 2026 on executing well on integrating that in and making sure we deliver on everything around that.

We'll keep looking, but I would caution that if you look at our pace, we did our last big deal back in 2023, we did this one this year, I wouldn't look for us to dramatically increase the pace of M&A activity. We'll be active and look at it.

It really does take two people to get a deal done, though. We'll see on what actually transpires.

Robert Hope

All right. Appreciate that.

Switching gears, at the December Investor Day, you spoke about 7%-plus infrastructure growth out to 2030. How does the Teine acquisition and the associated accretion change your thinking there?

Do you view this growth outlook as significantly derisked, or are you looking at potentially upside versus the prior outlook?

Curtis Philippon

When we talked about those numbers back in December, obviously, Chauvin was fairly well advanced at that time. We looked at the Chauvin asset or similar-type assets as part of the story of how you got to this confidence around an over-7% infrastructure EBITDA per share growth rate.

I would say that this nicely supports and derisks and is sort of perfectly aligned with the strategy we laid out at the Investor Day, but it doesn't sort of dramatically increase that rate. We'd still have that same confidence that sort of above 7% is what you should be expecting.

Robert Hope

Appreciate that. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Please stand by for our next question.

As a reminder, ladies and gentlemen, that's star one-one to ask a question. Our next question comes from the line of Maurice Choy with RBC Capital Markets.

Your line is open.

Maurice Choy

Thank you, and good morning, everyone. Just wanted to come back to the philosophy of transactions.

You mentioned earlier that strategically and from a risk perspective, crude-focused, connected to current platforms, and having similar contract and counterparty profiles were important to you. Can you also speak philosophically to the financial and funding priorities when you look at some of these wide range of opportunities?

Riley Hicks

Sure, Mo, it's Riley here. When we think about funding, obviously, we go back to kind of our financial positioning and maintaining our flexibility.

When we looked at this one specifically, given where our leverage was, we felt it was most prudent to do a leverage-neutral transaction. To the extent our balance sheet was in a different position and we were a little bit less levered, we would have maybe thought about not doing equity and doing it fully from the balance sheet.

Everything is going to be done in the context of maintaining or improving our investment-grade credit ratings. That's really the critical factor.

That's massively important to our strategy. We think about funding in that context.

Maurice Choy

Understood. Maybe along the same vein here, on leverage for the year, I recall that pre-transaction, around midyear this year, you would have reached your 3 to 3.5 times debt to EBITDA target range, and I recognize that the Chauvin transaction is leverage-neutral.

Just wanted to know what your outlook is for this metric, any steps you consider to be in that range, especially if marketing does stay flat this year?

Curtis Philippon

I think we're seeing marketing remain muted, and so likely getting back to that 3.5 range is kind of as we go through 2026 now. I will say, though, given where our infrastructure leverage is, we're quite confident with our balance sheet and where we're positioned today.

Marketing is in a trough, and we still remain well below our kind of our infrastructure leverage targets. Importantly, we did discuss with both S&P and DBRS on the back of this transaction our profile, and they're quite comfortable with where we are and reaffirmed our ratings.

We will see us delever through the year, but it's likely through 2026 and not fully done in the first half now.

Maurice Choy

Understood. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Benjamin Pham with BMO.

Your line is open.

Benjamin Pham

Hi, thanks. Good morning.

I just want to go back to the Chauvin transaction and the multiple that you highlighted, the mid-7 times. I'm curious.

My question is more look at transactions in North America and even looking at acquisitions versus organic growth, we don't typically see multiples being similar in that vein. Can you share context on maybe historical observations of acquisitions and multiples, and any specific characteristics that resulted in quite attractive multiple for Chauvin?

Curtis Philippon

On the multiple side, I think it was a fair price for both ourselves and Teine. I think I don't want to comment too much on Teine's perspective, but I think it was important for both of us to recognize that this is a long-term agreement.

They're entering into a 15-year agreement with partnering with Teine, and they were doing the same thing. It was important the purchase price was one thing, but the overall relationship and having a great commercial relationship to go grow that business over the next 15 years was also very critical.

We spent probably more time on that aspect of the transaction and talking about how we grow this business together. That was a key factor.

I think when you looked at all that together, where we got to on price was a fair spot for both sides.

Benjamin Pham

Maybe to tack on to your overall observations. You've looked at a lot of acquisitions.

Is the valuations between M&A and organic growth, is that narrowing over time, or is this, as you've commented, is a very unique situation that popped up for you?

Curtis Philippon

I think it'll depend on the particular asset and its characteristics. For this one, this was sort of right up the fairway, directly tied into Hardisty, had some unique attributes that made sense, and with some immediately actionable growth projects that allowed us to be directly in that 5 to 7 build multiple that lines up with our organic capital.

That's a great story. I think as you look forward at other M&A opportunities, it'll depend on their characteristics.

There will be situations where you'd consider going above that range for the right type of crown jewel assets with the right type of contract profile. It really is on a case-by-case basis.

We obviously are very focused on that 5 to 7 range. It's how we think about it, and we have some great use of organic growth capital that we're quite comfortable staying focused on as well if the right M&A opportunity isn't available.

Benjamin Pham

Understood. Continued to Maurice's question on the balance sheet and where things were going, how do you think about perhaps balancing over-equitizing this deal and delevering earlier and setting yourself up for the next wave of organic growth or M&A versus maybe just being more what you did there, leverage-neutral and maintaining that 5% accretion on the deal?

Curtis Philippon

It's a great question, Ben. I think when we looked at over-equitizing, what we found on a deal of this size is it really just didn't move the needle enough to make it make sense.

You're just trying to balance the accretion levels versus your balance sheet. For this one, we could have over-equitized, but it really wouldn't have moved the needle enough on leverage to make it make sense to give up that accretion.

That's kind of how we landed where it was. On maybe a bit of a bigger deal, it might have made more sense to over-equitize and delever quicker.

Benjamin Pham

Understand. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, I am showing no further questions in the queue.

I would now like to turn the call back over to Beth for closing remarks.

Beth Pollock

Thanks, [Towanda?] , and thank you for joining us today.

Supplemental materials are available on our website at gibsonenergy.com. If you have any additional questions, please contact our Investor Relations team.

Have a great day.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, that concludes today's conference call. Thank you for your participation.

You may now disconnect.