Dhoot Transmission Limited

Dhoot Transmission Limited

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Q1 FY2027 · Earnings Call TranscriptSeptember 4, 2026

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, good day and welcome to the Q1 FY27 earnings conference call of Dhoot Transmission Limited. As a reminder, all participant lines will be in the listen-only mode, and there will be an opportunity for you to ask questions after the presentation concludes.

Should you need assistance during this conference call, please signal an operator by pressing * followed by 0 on your touchtone phone. The management of Dhoot Transmission Limited is represented by Mr.

Rahul Dhoot, Managing Director, and Mr. Nitin Kalani, Group CFO.

Please note this conference is being recorded. At this time, I would like to hand over the conference to Mr.

Rahul Dhoot. Thank you and over to you, sir.

Rahul Dhoot

Thank you. A very warm welcome to all of you today.

I'm Rahul Dhoot, Founder and Managing Director for Dhoot Transmission. After getting listed, this is our first earning call, and I would like to thank all of you for the immense trust bestowed upon me and my team.

The first quarter has been very good for the automotive industry and also for Dhoot Transmission. For the two-wheeler industry, the last quarter was one of the best quarters with 22.8% growth.

Comparing YoY performance, EV industry grew by 93% and ICE in excess of 20%. In a nutshell, domestic volumes grew in excess of 20% and exports in excess of 36%.

Against the same, Dhoot Transmission saw a very strong growth of nearly 50% on YoY basis. Revenue from wiring harness grew 44.6% YoY and from non-wiring harness business by 67.7%.

The Multilink acquisition contributed to about 3% in terms of revenue growth for the quarter. EV revenue in the same quarter grew 79% for us, and with this, the overall contribution of EV revenue has reached 27% of our total revenue, up from 24% last year.

Our EBITDA margins improved 110 basis points to 15% as compared to Q4 FY2026. Key RM like copper, brass continued its upward trend in the first five months of the year, but the pace of increase was slower than the previous year.

Our finance cost declined in the quarter as we continue to optimize working capital debt levels because of equity infusion in March. Multilink integration is progressing well, and we are confident of scaling up our non-wiring harness business with this addition.

Also, our collaboration with Ride Vision is progressing pretty well, and we are in process of JV forming. Our NPD pipeline continues to be robust.

If I talk about the outlook, the electrification trend is aiding growth to the wiring harness and non-wiring harness business to us. To add to this, the addition of customers and products will also be a strong positive in the years to come.

However, we also need to keep in mind the soft comparison for the first six months as the GST reduction which fueled growth was implemented last year in the second half. On a overall basis considering overall things, we are confident of delivering another strong year of 25 to 30% of growth.

We will provide you with an update of utilization of IPO proceeds in our next reporting period based on actual utilization of funds. With this, we are happy to answer your questions now.

Operator

Thank you very much. We will now begin with the question-and-answer session.

Anyone who wishes to ask a question may press * and then 1 on their touchtone phone. If you wish to remove yourself from the question queue, you may press * and then 2.

Participants are requested to use handsets while asking a question. Ladies and gentlemen, we will wait for a moment while the question queue assembles.

Again, to register for a question, you may press * and 1 now. Your first question comes from the line of Siddharth Bera with Nomura.

Please go ahead.

Siddharth Bera

Thanks for the opportunity, sir, and congrats for a great set of numbers. Sir, my first question is on the margin side.

If we see, sequentially on the gross margin side, it's been stable, but in terms of cost pressure, it was much higher in quarter four, and like you correctly mentioned, in quarter one, the cost pressure is lower. How should we think about the margin expansion from current levels?

What is the under-recovery here, and where do you think they sort of normalize as you completely pass on the copper inflation?

Nitin Kalani

Hi, Siddharth. Most of the copper inflation is already passed on.

Nitin Kalani this side. That has already happened.

Actually, what is happening is last four, five months, we are also seeing somewhat further increase in the copper prices. Some impact is obviously there on these numbers, basically as we speak.

We would like to sort of continue to stick to our, I would say, indication, 15 to 16% kind of a margin guidance for the full year.

Siddharth Bera

Got it. Second is on the Multilink acquisition.

If you can guide us about how to think about this business over the next few years, what is the sort of revenue, margin profile currently, and what are the areas you are sort of looking to push aggressively, and how big this business can become over the next few years?

Rahul Dhoot

Multilink full integration with us will take another three, four months to have a very proper integration in terms of overall products. With this, we have added one customer, one customer which is Hero, and also we have added two more products, which is the fuel level sensor and the relays, which obviously there's going to be a big market for cross-selling because Multilink doesn't supply to many of our existing customers.

Cross-selling opportunities would be there. I believe that there should be a decent 25, 30% growth which we should be able to do on Multilink as well, and the margin should be in line with Dhoot's margin.

Siddharth Bera

Great, sir. Last question is on the non-wiring harness EV component business in terms of, I would say, specifically the EV two-wheeler battery pack assembly.

Where are we in terms of new customer addition, by when do we start seeing more pickup in terms of it from more customers here?

Rahul Dhoot

As we had initially told you that we were already supplying to one customer. We have started with one more customer down south, which is a big customer for us, and the supplies have already started.

Siddharth Bera

Got it, sir. Big thanks a lot, sir.

I'll come back in the queue.

Rahul Dhoot

Yes, thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Your next question comes from the line of Rishi Vora with Kotak Securities.

Please go ahead.

Rishi Vora

Thank you for the opportunity, and congratulations on a good top line print. Just a follow-up on again the non-wiring harness EV business, right?

Today we predominantly supply battery packs, and incrementally, we may start supplying the other products as well. How should we think about this business over the next three to five years in terms of the contribution?

I'm just asking for a rough number, but today how much it is roughly contributing, and three or five year down the line, where do you expect the contribution of this particular segment would be, given that the pace of electrification continues to surprise positively, especially in the two-wheeler segment?

Rahul Dhoot

Hi, Rishi. Rahul Dhoot.

See, if you look at it, we are there present across the entire EV powertrain. It's not that we only do the battery pack assembly.

Whatever businesses come across, we try to optimize on all the areas of products which we have in the EV powertrain. If you're talking about the battery pack assemblies, we've been doing the battery packs for our top customer, and another top customer has now added on to it.

The battery pack assembly business is also going to go up. Apart from this, we're also going to start the EV charging business.

All those areas are going to add up. Now when we talk of the growth in terms of electrification, it is going much beyond the expected numbers, and the present customers are very bullish on the growth.

Fortunately, our top two customers don't look at India as a market. They look at world as a market, and there will be a lot of EV exports happening from India also.

I believe that there'll be a lot of opportunities to not only selling through them in India, but also out of country.

Rishi Vora

Understood. Just any thoughts about getting into three-wheeler battery pack business, and how should we think about the margin of this EV component business?

Will it be similar, dilutive, or accretive to our overall business?

Rahul Dhoot

For us, margins are similar whether it is ICE or EV, because at the end of the day, we work with customers, not product by product, but as a norm. Then it is all about superior execution, we don't operate with too many management layers, we have a very hands-on operation, and also a lot of good mix of workforce management and labor mix.

These are the areas where we focus on, and we try to have a superior execution. Otherwise, the margins remain the same for ICE or EV for us.

Rishi Vora

Understood. Any thoughts on three-wheeler battery pack business?

Is that area which you will consider in the future, or not?

Rahul Dhoot

Three-wheeler battery pack, if you ask me, as a manufacturer, we will always plan to create our own product and go up to the existing customers and try to reach out to them. I believe we are at this point of time going to consolidate our position on the two-wheeler battery packs at least for the next one or two years.

Rishi Vora

Understood. Just one question for Nitin.

What would be our cash levels at the end of June, and if you could share the FCF for the quarter?

Nitin Kalani

Rishi, thank you. See, the thing is the IPO money came in the month of August.

The Bain infusion which happened in the month of March, plus the impact of Multilink acquisition, part impact, I would say, has led to a debt level which is at about ₹220 crore at the end of June quarter. We had fixed deposits created out of the Bain infusion.

That's the indicative number as of today. After the equity infusion has happened, the debt level would have turned again, meaning a cash surplus kind of scenario after the IPO.

It's

Rishi Vora

fair to assume ₹1,000 crore of net cash, around August, end of August, is how we should consider?

Nitin Kalani

Yeah. End of August, that'll be the kind of number, maybe slightly there only, few crores here and there.

Rishi Vora

Understood. Thank you so much for this.

I'll get back in the queue. Thank you.

Nitin Kalani

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Your next question comes from the line of Vijay Kumar Pandey with Axis Capital.

Please go ahead.

Vijay Kumar Pandey

Hi, sir. Thank you for taking my questions, and congratulations for an excellent set of numbers.

Sir, first of all, if you could help us understand the break-up of the non-wiring harness business in Q1 in terms of sensors and controller, Multilink, you said 3%, and battery pack?

Nitin Kalani

No, you want to understand the growth in the non-wiring harness business?

Vijay Kumar Pandey

Yes, growth and revenue break-up, the contribution. Vinay,

Nitin Kalani

yeah, if you honestly ask me, the growth I can touch upon, but we are not allowed to give exact break-up on the battery side and all those things, basically because of the customer concentration, being with only one single customer. The non-wiring harness business grew almost 67.7%.

Of that, I would say about 10, 12% was contributed by the Multilink acquisition for the 20 days period that it had. On an overall basis, it was about 3%, the contribution of the Multilink, this is on overall growth levels.

This business includes battery packs, which is a major portion of this revenue. Apart from that, we also do controllers, sensors, and switches.

I think these five products constitute the non-wiring harness business.

Vijay Kumar Pandey

Okay. Sir, secondly, if you can speak a little bit about Ride Vision JV, because that's a new business, and we are getting into.

The Ride Vision comes into ADAS, just want to understand what kind of product opportunities are we looking there, what can be the potential addressable market there, could you help us understand that?

Rahul Dhoot

Yeah. Regarding the Ride Vision JV, it is all about the ADAS for the two-wheeler setup, which the Israeli company has already done well.

We've been giving presentations to all the important two-wheeler customers, and there's a pretty good interest which we have got out of it. It's a futuristic thing, and it will be lots to got to do with the regulations coming on board from the government of India.

We are well in time, and we'll be prepared for all those areas to explore before they come.

Vijay Kumar Pandey

Sir, with Ride Vision JV also, we will continue in two-wheelers, or we plan to expand into passenger vehicles as well?

Rahul Dhoot

No, ADAS as a product is not dependent on the segment of the whole thing. It can be two-wheelers, four-wheelers.

We are going to first focus on the two-wheeler side for it. Right, sir.

Vijay Kumar Pandey

If you can help because ADAS in two-wheelers, we have not seen much business there in the industry. If you could help us understand the types of product or anything on that basis?

Rahul Dhoot

Basically what happens is there not only the front collisions, there are also back collisions, and sometimes there is a blind spot on left and right side, which is detected by the product which has been made by the Israeli joint venture company, Ride Vision. They've already done a lot of study on the Indian market, and looking at the concentration of the Indian market, they've created this product, and they are already in advance discussion.

It's regarding the blind spots which come across on both these sides, and that is how this is going to help us out.

Vijay Kumar Pandey

Okay. Sir, lastly, in terms of Multilink Multilink and non-wiring harness, what will be our EBITDA margin in generally, and what is our expectation in mid-term?

Rahul Dhoot

I believe that the full integration with Multilink should happen in four months' time, and I believe that as the way we work, the EBITDA margin should be in line with Dhoot's EBITDA margin.

Vijay Kumar Pandey

Okay. Sir, are we looking for any acquisition with IPO money with the cash right now?

Rahul Dhoot

That is always going to be a continuous thing. With Bain associated and helping us out on the M&A side, there's a long funnel which goes through every month.

We are very slow on that, because the money which has come in, the first option would be the JVs, TCs, organic, and then M&As. In that also, our first option would be Indian acquisitions, and the last option would be taking businesses in abroad in the West if at all it is related to strategy in terms of technology or sector.

Vijay Kumar Pandey

As such, we are not thinking for any acquisition in passenger vehicle space or anything of that sort?

Rahul Dhoot

No, not as of right now. We are in an advanced stage related to a joint venture for the passenger vehicle harnesses for the HV side, but we will be able to give correct information of this in our second call, second earnings call.

Vijay Kumar Pandey

Sir. Thank you and all the best.

Thank you.

Rahul Dhoot

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Before we take the next question, a reminder to all the participants, you may press * and then 1 to ask a question.

Your next question comes from the line of Ajox Frederick with Sundaram Mutual Fund. Please go ahead.

Ajox Frederick

Hi, sir. Congrats on a good set of numbers.

Sir, just two questions. One is on the split between the wiring harness and the non-wiring harness, the absolute value this quarter and, let's say, last quarter last year's first quarter, if you can give me that data?

Rahul Dhoot

One second, huh. We'll give you the exact absolute value.

Yeah.

Nitin Kalani

The wiring harness revenue in this quarter was about ₹1,090 crore, ₹1,090 crore, and non-wiring harness business revenue was ₹358 crore.

Ajox Frederick

Okay. How much was this last year, sir, 1Q?

Nitin Kalani

Last year same quarter, the revenues were for wiring harness ₹753 crore, non-wiring harness

Ajox Frederick

business

Nitin Kalani

₹213 crore. Okay.

Ajox Frederick

Very helpful. Second Sure, sir.

Sure. Second is that on margins, usually it comes with a quarterly lag, right, the repricing, etc.?

Do we still have a probability of inching the gross profits up? Is there further scope for that repricing to happen in our gross margins?

Nitin Kalani

In the first quarter, there was a slight elevation of the key raw materials, which includes copper and couple of other commodities also, where we have these negotiations with customers possible. The margin impact would be not significant.

I think in July also, it went on further, basically by about 3, 4%. July and even August, we saw the similar kind of trend.

If you're asking whether it will be materialized in the second quarter itself, the answer would be probably no, not immediately in Q2. In Q3, we'll get the things if the prices stable.

I would

Rahul Dhoot

technically, I would just like to say that whenever there would be a softening of the raw material, at that point of time, the recovery will start for us.

Ajox Frederick

Understood, sir. Got it.

Rahul Dhoot

Yeah. It's a period of time.

It will take its own, when it's a hard cycle for us, we have to kind of lose that money, and when the soft cycle starts, because there's at some point of time, there's a peak which it hits, and then it comes down. That's the time wherein the recovery starts.

Ajox Frederick

Perfect, sir. Great, sir.

That's it for me. Thank you.

Thank you.

Rahul Dhoot

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Your next question comes from the line of Preet Pitani with InCred Asset Management Company.

Please go ahead.

Preet Pitani

Thank you for the opportunity, sir, and congratulation on the good set of numbers. My first question is on the line of wage hike impact.

If you could just quantify what would be the wage hike impact, we have around 16% QoQ growth in the employee cost, what would be led by wage hike and what would be the organic employee hike?

Rahul Dhoot

Wage hike impact is not on our thing. Whenever whichever state we are present, whatever is the minimum wages contract which comes through that, we have to adhere to that.

Then only in terms, we have to discuss with the customer. I believe that the impact which is there has been taken, and discussions with customers are yearly discussed with them on the wage hike cost, and that's where it comes to us back.

Preet Pitani

Sure, sir. Got it.

Operator

Preet sir, you have any further questions?

Preet Pitani

No, no, my other question has already been answered.

Operator

Thank you. Your next question comes from the line of Ayush Ruia with Leo Asset and Wealth Management.

Please go ahead. Hello,

Ayush Ved

am I audible? Yeah.

Operator

Yes, sir. Please go ahead.

Ayush Ved

Please go ahead. Yeah.

Congratulations Rahul and Nitin for good set of numbers. My question is more on the accounting side.

When the acquisition of Multilink happened, the consideration is shown as ₹435 crore, if I'm not wrong, in the RHP. What would be the goodwill impact for it?

See,

Nitin Kalani

we are in the process of assessing the attribution of those values basically. Some tentative numbers have been arrived at that on that part.

The value will be distributed across three, four, I would say, major heads, and one of those would be customer relations basically. Obviously, the assets acquired would be recorded at fair value, both on the fixed assets side and working capital side.

In addition to that, there will be intangibles which will be identified. One of those large intangibles would be the customer relations, where we are getting a customer which was not with us earlier, and also another customer where we have increased the revenue contribution from that particular customer.

Customer relationship would have a major, I would say, part of the purchase consideration break-up. In addition to that, there will be goodwill, and as you rightly said, the intangibles of trademarks and patents and other things, basically.

My sense is that roughly it would be about 20 or 25% of the acquisition price when it comes to goodwill.

Ayush Ved

Got it. Thank you so much.

Nitin Kalani

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Your next question comes from the line of Nishant with Nippon Life.

Please go ahead.

Nishant Chowhan

Just a minute. Am I audible?

Rahul Dhoot

No, you're not. If you can be a little loud, please.

Nishant Chowhan

Better now?

Nitin Kalani

Much better.

Nishant Chowhan

Okay. Thanks for taking my question.

First question would be, sir, on the wiring harness side, what would be our, say, percentage of localization or backward integration that we would probably have in that business versus the bought-out components, maybe in terms of cables, terminals? Any sense on that you could provide us?

Rahul Dhoot

We have a very good auto component division, wherein we backward integrate into cables and connection systems. Localization is a continuous drive.

You have to keep doing that every month, and then go on progressing with it. It's not that there is a benchmark, because at the end of the day, the business also grows, and the number of components which keep on coming for localization are there.

I can tell you that we have a very good localization drive, and about 30% of the component would 30, 35% of the component which were imported must have come down by 20, 25% now. About 20, 25% is what we import, and remaining we have localized.

Nishant Chowhan

Is there something that we manufacture ourselves in terms of cables or connectors or terminals, something like that, or those are all bought-out components? No,

Rahul Dhoot

we manufacture it ourselves. We have Dhoot Auto Components.

It's a subsidiary of Dhoot Transmission, wherein about ₹1,200 crore of business is done for the group companies, which doesn't reflect into the overall sales, because at the end of the day, it's all self-consumption.

Nishant Chowhan

Okay. Sir, secondly, I just wanted to understand on copper.

What would be copper as a percentage of our BOM cost?

Rahul Dhoot

About 22,

Nishant Chowhan

23%. So 22, 23% is our dependency on the copper as a material, right?

Rahul Dhoot

Yeah, 20, 22, 23%, approximately that ballpark number. Yeah.

Nishant Chowhan

Lastly, just a sense on your battery pack business, what would be our value addition in this particular product?

Rahul Dhoot

Battery pack, basically the cells are imported, which customer gives it to us. Then there are cell holders, the tab cells, the busbars, the wiring harnesses, the pressure sensors, the overall component-level working which is there, connector systems, and all that we do in-house.

We manufacture it in the autocomp company.

Nishant Chowhan

Any percentage that you can guide us with?

Nitin Kalani

We are bound by an understanding with the customer actually. We really can't disclose more details there, because we have a single customer, and it'll be tantamounting to breaching that agreement with the customer.

Nishant Chowhan

Fair. No problem, sir.

Thank you.

Nitin Kalani

Okay. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Participants, to ask a question, you may press * and then 1 now.

Your next question comes from the line of Viraj Sanghvi with Ambit. Please go ahead.

Viraj Sanghvi

Thank you for taking my question, sir. Just one clarification first.

The supplies to the second customer for battery pack assembly, were they started for the full quarter of Q1?

Rahul Dhoot

Just one month of the last quarter. Achha,

Viraj Sanghvi

okay. Thank you, sir.

Secondly, sir, the automotive switches and EV cordset utilization levels have kind of remained low for the last three years. What is the kind of hindrance which is there in that particular piece of the business and your utilization levels picking up over there, and how can that

Rahul Dhoot

Sorry. The point is we in the automotive switches business, we do the off-highway and the tractor business switches.

We have been growing as per the market rate at what this industry has been growing. The EV cordset business is doing very well.

In fact, the new business of EV cordsets which are coming for next year, we almost have a 40, 45% share of business for the Indian market.

Viraj Sanghvi

Got it, sir. Sir, what we see on the wiring harness business on the passenger vehicle side is generally there are two separate suppliers for low voltage and high voltage wiring harness.

How predominant would that kind of scenario be in the two-wheeler, three-wheeler space, or that is absolutely not the case in electric two-wheelers, three-wheelers?

Rahul Dhoot

No, see, in any electric vehicle, there will be two voltage systems. LV and HV remain a part of the two-wheeler business also.

We are a part of both the products.

Viraj Sanghvi

Usually when you are present on an electric two-wheeler, you will be supplying both low voltage and high voltage. That would be predominantly the case, and it would

Rahul Dhoot

Generally, 99% of the case is that only.

Viraj Sanghvi

Got it, sir. Those were my questions.

Rahul Dhoot

Thank you.

Nitin Kalani

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Your next question comes from the line of Sheetal Kumar with Herons Management.

Please go ahead.

Sheetal Kumar

Thank you for the opportunity. I just want to highlight one fact that please give some time to study the report, and maybe schedule the call the day after, means the next day you intend to publish the result and the presentation.

That will be helpful.

Rahul Dhoot

We will take this suggestion from you, and we will do it from next quarter onwards. Thank you.

Sheetal Kumar

My question is that where do you see the revenue contribution of EV in next, say, two, three years or later, means where will it settle for considerably? Sheetal,

Nitin Kalani

on the EV side, this will be driven by the growth of the EV industry. If you really see, this quarter has been an excellent, I would say, growth for the EV sector per se, where the volumes almost doubled that than what it was in the first quarter of last year.

Only with this one particular, I would say, action, our share of revenues from EVs have increased from 24% to 27% of our revenue, in spite of all other segments growing very strongly. It all depends, meaning if the penetration increases for EVs, our revenue from EVs should also grow substantially.

What we believe is that maybe in another two, three years' time frame, we should be definitely having a revenue from EVs of more than 30, 32%.

Sheetal Kumar

Thank you. That's helpful.

My second question is that the ICE volume has increased 17%, whereas in your presentation, it is shown that the two-wheeler and three-wheeler volume have increased by 20% and 33%. It means that we are losing market share in the ICE segment.

Is my understanding right?

Rahul Dhoot

No, we have not lost any market share.

Nitin Kalani

We'll work on the numbers again basically with you separately, but we believe whatever is disclosed is correct.

Sheetal Kumar

Means if we have the market share intact, then we should grow in line with the industry. If industry grew by 20 and 33%, and we are growing by 17%, means it's a basic assumption.

There might be some relativity, it will be better if it is clear.

Nitin Kalani

No, our revenues on ICE side grew 63% in the quarter.

Sheetal Kumar

Okay. It's mentioned in your presentation.

Let me share the page number as that one. It's on page number six.

Nitin Kalani

No, it's specifically mentioned our revenues on the ICE EV side grew 79%, and on the ICE side grew 52 52.6%.

Sheetal Kumar

That's perfect. Thank you.

My last question that are we already in the testing phase for the ADAS systems? I think the testing is being done by the Israeli company.

Do we have customer ready to adopt it, means and if you can name it who is willing to adopt it?

Rahul Dhoot

We can't name the customers, but the point is that we already have a relationship with all the two-wheeler customers. We've already approached them.

There is a pretty good interest which is there, and whenever the regulation comes, we'll be ready with the product before it comes.

Sheetal Kumar

Okay. What if, means we are dependent on regulations, and what if, means it doesn't come, and the OEMs want to sell it as a premium feature?

That is not a possibility?

Rahul Dhoot

That could be a possibility, but as much as we understand looking at the concentration of two-wheelers which is happening and the road accidents which are happening, the regulations for ADAS should be coming on very soon, and we want to be ahead of the curve in case it comes and be ready with the products. That's why we have chosen Ride Vision to be the right partner for it.

Sheetal Kumar

Okay. I'm not trying to reveal your number, but say an entry-level segment bike or a scooter, how much the cost will increase if they adopt this ADAS?

Rahul Dhoot

That depends on what all features. It's a very relative question.

It depends on how many features it is required. We can't comment on this right now, but if you send us a separate email, we will put you across to our CEO who's doing this, and he can share more details if it is in line with the customer.

Sheetal Kumar

Okay. Thank you.

This is all. Thank you for giving the opportunity.

Rahul Dhoot

All right, thank you.

Operator

Thank you. A reminder to all the participants, if you wish to register for a question, please press * and then 1 now.

Your next question comes from the line of Preet Jain with Niveshaay. Please go ahead.

Preet Jain

Thank you so much, sir, for the opportunity. Sir, my first question is on the margin profile.

If we compare YoY Q1 FY26 to Q1 FY27, is it the proportion of battery and other products increasing, that is why we are seeing an impact on the gross margins?

Rahul Dhoot

No, it's not because of that. As we explained it to you, it's about the hard cycle and the soft cycle of the commodity.

At that point of time, it was a soft cycle of the commodity going on. Right now, we're through a hard cycle of the commodity what's going on.

Preet Jain

Okay. Gradually we should see the margin profile going up, right?

Rahul Dhoot

Yes, whenever the raw material starts coming down, we should be doing better on the margin side.

Preet Jain

Okay. We do pass on our prices, but with a lag, you're saying?

Rahul Dhoot

It's a lag of three months, and that's how customers do it, and we've been doing it for years like this.

Preet Jain

Got it. Sir, in terms of, where we in the EV side, when I speak specifically, we have a good market share market share of around 70%.

Let's say in terms of the content per vehicle with our, set of products that we have currently, wire harnessing, battery, sensors, controllers, how much do you think that we have, in let's say if with our current product profile, we can offer x amount, and what percentage are we currently, supplying to this OEMs?

Rahul Dhoot

If you look at it, there are various OEMs to which we are supplying various products, and there are products like the cordsets, there are products like the charging guns, products like RCDs, products like chargers, DC-DC converters, wiring harnesses, HV, LV, and then the battery pack assembly. Everyone has a content.

Depending on model to model, it goes up and down. It's a variable thing, and it's an information which is customer to customer.

We would not like to talk more about this in this term. Kalani ji, if you want to add?

Nitin Kalani

Yeah. If you are honestly asking about the content between ICE versus EV, then the content is substantially higher.

If you only look at the wiring harness piece, the content goes up by 1.5 to between 1.5 times to 2.5 times that of the ICE engine. On the top of it, we have the other products what Mr.

Dhoot mentioned.

Rahul Dhoot

What happens is, for the wiring harnesses, a normal ICE will have only a low voltage harness. We get an extra high voltage harness over here.

That's why the content increases, and then the other products also come into picture. It becomes a good overall, if everything goes well, as compared if someone picks up all our products, then our x can become up till 4x in the EV.

Preet Jain

Got it, sir. Sir, in terms of capacity expansion, with this IPO proceeds also, we have not set aside anything for this wire harnessing segment.

Do you think 75, 80% utilization, we still have a headroom to increase it, or will soon be coming up with a capex here? No,

Rahul Dhoot

in the IPO proceeds which have come in, in that there is expansion going on in two plants. One is in Jhajjar and one is in Hosur, and which is going to add about 15, 20% to our capacity this year.

We cannot increase anything in the 75% range, because all our customers operate at 100% efficiency when it comes to the five, six months of season time during Diwali. For that, we have to maintain a capacity of 75% year around so that during the peak cycle, we are able to support our customers.

Okay.

Preet Jain

Got it, sir. Thank you so much.

Rahul Dhoot

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, we take that as a last question for today.

I now hand the conference over to Mr. Rahul Dhoot from Dhoot Transmission Limited for closing comments.

Over to you, sir.

Rahul Dhoot

Thank you so much to all of you for attending the call today and looking forward for sharing our next earnings call next quarter. Thank you for the trust which has been bestowed upon me and my team.

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. On behalf of Dhoot Transmission Limited, that concludes this conference.

Thank you, everyone, for joining us, and you may now disconnect your lines.