Operator
Ladies and gentlemen, good day, and welcome to the Q3 and 9M FY '26 earnings conference call hosted by Embassy Developments Limited. As a reminder, all participant lines will be in the listen-only mode, and there will be an opportunity for you to ask questions after the presentation concludes.
Should you need assistance during the conference call, please signal the operator by pressing star then zero on your touchtone phone. I now hand the conference over to Mr.
Aditya Virwani, Promoter and Managing Director from Embassy Developments Limited. Thank you, and over to you, sir.
Aditya Virwani
Good morning, everyone, and thank you for taking the time to join us today. It is a pleasure to welcome you to our first earnings call as Embassy Developments Limited.
Joining me today are Sachin Shah, our CEO and Executive Director; Rajesh Kaimal, our CFO and Executive Director; and our investor relations adviser, SGA. Our financial results and an investor presentation have been uploaded on the stock exchanges and the company website, and we hope you've had the opportunity to review them.
This is our first earnings call as a merged entity, and before we get into the quarter, I'd like to take a step back and share some context on the journey of the company and where we stand today. Calendar year 2025 was a landmark year for the company, marked by the successful completion of the merger between the erstwhile Indiabulls Real Estate Limited and the Embassy Group's development entity, NAM Estates Private Limited.
Following approval by the Honorable NCLAT in January 2025, the merged platform was rebranded as Embassy Developments Limited or EDL. This merger was not simply about consolidation.
It was a deliberate step to create a stronger, more resilient, and future-ready listed real estate platform, one with institutional scale, deeper operating capabilities, and broader access to high-quality markets. Through this consolidation, EDL now has a fully enabled presence across North and West India with established operating teams, active projects, and on-ground execution capability.
At the same time, it provides shareholders access to Embassy's home market of Bengaluru, India's largest commercial real estate market and one of the country's most resilient residential markets. The Embassy Group brings with it over three decades of experience and a proven track record of developing over 75 million square feet of saleable space across commercial, residential, industrial, and hospitality assets.
The group has built its reputation on quality, trust, and thoughtful development, and these values now form the foundation of Embassy Developments Limited. A critical part of this transformation has been the integration of the legacy Indiabulls project portfolio.
Over the past several quarters, we have taken full ownership of these inherited assets and worked systematically to bring them to completion. In the period leading up to and including FY '26, six previously delayed residential projects across MMR, NCR, and Visakhapatnam reached handover stages, enabling more than 3,300 families to finally take possession of their homes.
For us, this was not just about completing projects, it was about restoring that confidence. We firmly believe that institutional credibility is built through delivery and through taking responsibility for inherited commitments.
Today, Embassy Developments operates at meaningful scale with a presence across eight cities, a portfolio of 40-plus projects, and approximately 38 million square feet of residential and commercial development. This includes over 30 million square feet of residential development and 7.4 million square feet of commercial assets supported by a land bank of over 3,100 acres.
Our near-term strategy is clearly defined and deliberately sequenced. First, execution remains our top priority, completing ongoing projects with discipline and consistency.
Second, we are focused on organic growth through new launches with plans to bring about an aggregating approximately ₹41,000 crores of GDV to the market over the next three years, entirely on fully paid-up land already within the platform. Finally, we are keen to grow this portfolio beyond our existing land base.
We remain highly selective, focusing only on high-margin, high-conviction opportunities. By Q3 FY '26, we have secured RERA approval for six residential projects with a GDV of approximately ₹13,500 crores along with a commercial project at Embassy East Business Park in Whitefield with a GDV of around ₹3,100 crores.
We have recorded close to ₹2,000 crores of presales in the first nine months of the year, and with the recent launches, approvals, and existing unsold inventory, we remain confident of achieving our ₹5,000 crore FY '26 presales target. As the housing cycle continues to show momentum, we believe Embassy Developments has a strong opportunity to grow market share and that the consolidation towards leading, trusted brands will just continue.
With the team and the product pipeline we have in place, we are excited to demonstrate what the Embassy brand can deliver at scale. I would like to briefly provide an update on ongoing insolvency proceedings.
The case relates to facilities availed by Sinnar Thermal Power Limited in 2011 following a court-approved demerger under which the power business was separated from the erstwhile Indiabulls Group and certain historical corporate guarantee arrangements linked to equity infusion obligations. Following the demerger, STPL has been part of the RattanIndia Group since 2011.
Canara Bank has initiated proceedings against the company alleging liability for repayment of loans of ₹372 crore under an erstwhile corporate guarantee framework and filed a Section 7 application under the Insolvency and Bankruptcy Code 2016. Based on the management's assessment and legal advice, we believe the admission was not warranted on merits.
The company has since obtained a stay from NCLT. The next hearing is scheduled for 19th of February, and we remain confident in the strength of our case.
I would like to assure investors that our company has adequate financial capacity to address the matter, and we do not expect any impact on business continuity or long-term value creation. With that, I now hand over to Sachin, who will take you through the operational performance of the quarter.
Rajesh will then walk you through the financials, and after which we will open the floor for questions. Thank you.
Sachin Shah
Thank you, Aditya, and welcome, shareholders. I will now take you through the operational progress of the business for the nine months of FY '26, providing color on what we have achieved versus target, updates across our core markets, and key milestones achieved during the period.
We have launched three residential projects over the last nine months, resulting in cumulative presales of approximately ₹2,000 crores and cumulative collections of roughly ₹1,100 crores. During the quarter ended December 31st, 2025, the company recorded presales of ₹1,392 crores, representing a quarter-on-quarter growth of around 240%, and this was driven by recent launches and strong absorption in our core market of Bengaluru.
Collections during Q3 FY 2026 were approximately ₹415 crores, reflecting a 15% quarter-on-quarter increase. Our key residential launches this financial year include: Embassy Paradiso, a luxury plotted development within the master plan Embassy Springs in North Bengaluru.
The project is fully sold out and achieved realizations of approximately ₹200 crores against an estimated GDV of ₹175 crores. This reflected a strong demand and pricing strength in premium plotted formats for the Embassy Developments.
Embassy Greenshore, launched in November 2025, also within Embassy Springs. It comprises of 878 units across 1.5 million square feet of saleable area and recorded presales of approximately ₹804 crores within five days of launch with over 480 units sold as of December 31st, 2025.
The response validated our product strategy focused on larger layouts, good planning, and premium specifications at accessible price points. Lastly, Embassy Eden.
Launched in December 2025, Embassy Eden is a premium villa development in North Bengaluru with 95 units and a GDV of ₹1,800 crores. The project has seen a remarkable demand with units worth ₹286 crores sold shortly after launch.
Each project is progressing independently with approvals obtained, construction planning to meet deadlines, and disciplined capital deployment. We have also begun construction on Embassy East Business Park, where we plan to develop 2.7 million square feet in phase one.
This aptly represents the large-scale institutional-grade commercial assets that Embassy is best known for. As we move forward, we remain keen to increase the contribution of commercial assets to the EDL portfolio.
We are on track for four new launches in Q4, two each in Bengaluru and Mumbai, including our marquee 1 million square feet 300-plus meter luxury tower in Worli called Embassy Citadel, which would result in total FY '26 GDV of launch projects exceeding ₹19,000 crores. Other upcoming projects this quarter include: Embassy Verde Phase 2, for which RERA approvals have just been obtained; Embassy Sky Terraces, our development management project, a premium residential development in Hebbal, adjacent to the sold-out Embassy Lake Terraces in Bengaluru; and Embassy Serenity, 111-unit managed residences in Alibaug for which RERA approval has just come in this month.
Combined with the existing unsold inventory across ongoing projects, as Aditya also stated, we remain optimistic about achieving our FY '26 presales guidance of ₹5,000 crores. Collectively, these projects provide strong visibility on execution continuity beyond the launches already completed.
Mumbai represents an important next phase of growth for Embassy Developments. We recently announced our entry into the Mumbai Metropolitan Region with the Mumbai campaign in early Jan.
Many of you would have seen billboards across the city. The three initial residential projects across Worli, Juhu, and Alibaug represent a combined gross development value of over ₹12,000 crores and a planned investment of approximately ₹4,500 crores.
These will be our first residential developments under the Embassy brand in Mumbai. Our approach to Mumbai has been deliberate and execution-led with an immense amount of attention being paid to design, a hallmark feature that customers in Bengaluru have known Embassy for.
Mumbai is also being approached as a credibility-driven expansion than a volume-led market. During the period, we achieved several important regulatory and execution milestones, including the occupancy certificate for 239 apartments at Serene Amara, a senior living project in Bengaluru, developed through a joint venture with Columbia Pacific Communities.
A key area of focus for us is free cash flow generation and surplus visibility. Across launched, upcoming, and planned projects, the company has an estimated project surplus of approximately ₹28,000 crores.
It represents a net operational cash margin of 47% based on our management estimates. This surplus is distributed across OC and ongoing projects, new launches in FY '26, and planned launches in FY '27 and '28.
This level of cash flow visibility underpins our ability to fund construction, service debt, and pursue growth while maintaining balance sheet discipline. With that, now I'll hand over the call to Mr.
Rajesh Kaimal, our CFO and Executive Director, who will take you through the financial performance, capital structure, and liquidity position of the company. Thank you.
Rajesh Kaimal
Thank you, Sachin. I am pleased to walk you through our financial performance, liquidity position, and fund raise.
Revenue and profitability: total income for nine-month FY '26 is ₹1,495 crore and Q3 stood at ₹264 crores. Gross profit for nine-month FY '26 is ₹254 crore and EBITDA for the same period is negative ₹107 crore.
This loss is due to higher cost of goods sold on two legacy Indiabulls Real Estate projects, Vizag and Thane Phase 1, and advance CAM payments currently absorbed by the company, which we expect to taper over calendar year 2026. While the EBITDA impact is visible this quarter, our new launches are being executed at strong net surplus margins, and as the mix shifts towards new generation projects, we expect profitability to strengthen meaningfully.
Collection and construction: for nine-month FY '26, our collection stood at ₹1,096 crore and Q3 collection stood at ₹414 crore, representing a strong 15% quarter-on-quarter growth. For nine-month FY '26, construction spends totals ₹868 crore, a clear reflection of our strong execution cadence and maintaining a healthy spend-to-collection ratio of 79%.
Fund raise and liquidity: we have closed Q3 FY '26 with ₹670 crore in cash and bank balance. Net institutional debt stood at approximately ₹3,000 crore, translating to a 0.29x net debt-to-equity ratio.
There is an additional ₹1,058 crore of shareholder debt outstanding as on December 31st, 2025. Net institutional funds raised through debt in the last nine months of FY '26 is ₹880 crore, and our liquidity position remains comfortable, supporting both construction activity and upcoming launches.
This funding approach reflects our strategy of raising capital in line with execution needs while preserving balance sheet flexibility and maintaining financial discipline. In summary, the quarter reflects strong operating momentum, disciplined capital allocation, and a robust balance sheet.
We remain focused on sustaining cash flows, supporting project execution, and maintaining financial prudence as we scale this business. With that, we would be happy to take your questions.
Operator
Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, we will now begin the question-and-answer session.
Anyone who wishes to ask a question may press star and one on their touchtone telephone. If you wish to remove yourself from the question queue, you may press star and two.
Participants are requested to use their handsets while asking a question. Ladies and gentlemen, we will wait for a moment while the question queue assembles.
Ladies and gentlemen, if you wish to ask a question, please press star and one. We take the first question from the line of Nitin S.
Dharmavat from Aurum Capital. Please go ahead.
Nitin S. Dharmavat
Thank you for the opportunity. Sir, what is the inventory of unsold projects and OC-received projects?
Sachin Shah
Sure. Aditya, you want to take that?
Aditya Virwani
Yeah. I would refer you to slide 12 on our investor presentation.
Our unsold inventory is roughly ₹4,500 crores, and our sold receivables is ₹4,000 crores. This is what we consider the first priority of the company is execute, unlock our receivables, and sell existing inventory that the company already has.
Nitin S. Dharmavat
Okay. On one of the slides you mentioned about the GDV value of ₹24,200 crores.
This is across all the projects, or there are some projects outside this also?
Aditya Virwani
So 24,000 would have been
Sachin Shah
Aditya, it's slide 22.
Aditya Virwani
Right. So
Sachin Shah
20 or 22, 21.
Aditya Virwani
I'm referring to slide 21. This is all the future pipeline of projects beyond FY '26.
Nitin S. Dharmavat
Yeah. What is the GDV as of today?
Sachin Shah
Total GDV, yeah.
Aditya Virwani
The total GDV in the company stands at ₹52,000 crores.
Sachin Shah
Sorry?
Aditya Virwani
The total GDV in the company stands at ₹52,000 crores.
Nitin S. Dharmavat
Got it.
Sachin Shah
I'd like to add over here that we've not included our second phase of Embassy Knowledge Park in this number as well, and our land bank numbers are not in this GDV.
Nitin S. Dharmavat
What will the approximate values of those?
Sachin Shah
The reason we didn't put them in there is because we're still working through what we develop and doing our planning on it. Over time, we will come with what our plan would be, and then based on that, we'll come up with a GDV number on those assets.
Nitin S. Dharmavat
Okay. What is total debt at consol level?
You mentioned about the gross institutional and net institutional debt. I wanted to know specifically the debt at consol level.
Rajesh Kaimal
The institutional debt stood at ₹3,700 crores, and that's the institutional debt. Shareholder debt is approximately ₹1,100-odd crores.
We are looking at a gross total debt at about ₹4,700 to ₹4,800 crores.
Nitin S. Dharmavat
Okay. What is the plan to reduce the debt?
How do we repay the amount? What is the timeline that we are keeping in mind?
Rajesh Kaimal
Most of these debts are project debts, and from the collections, we will be paying this down over the next few years. While the shareholder debt is something that we are talking about, the two main shareholders, which is Blackstone and Embassy Property Developments, are holding these debts.
We are in discussion with Blackstone as to what best to do, whether to convert to equity or what to do with the debt is something that we are still contemplating.
Nitin S. Dharmavat
Okay.
Sachin Shah
Rajesh, I'd like to add over here. If you refer to our slide 11, even our next three years' projects provide a net surplus of ₹21,000 crores, which we'll start seeing the cash flow for that over the next 2, 3, 4 years.
That itself would be sufficient to cover not only our cost of construction, but also then our debt repayment out here.
Nitin S. Dharmavat
Got it. Thank you so much, sir.
Operator
Thank you. We take the next question from the line of Rashesh Oza from Nine Rays Equi Research.
Please go ahead.
Rashesh Oza
Thanks for the opportunity. I have three questions.
First is on the erstwhile projects of Indiabulls. If you can just give us some ballpark how much investments we have done to revive, or the cost involved to revive the erstwhile Indiabulls projects now?
Going forward, when the collections could surpass the cost, or probably could generate positive EBITDA from these projects going forward? That's my first question.
Sachin Shah
You want to see what the other two are?
Rajesh Kaimal
Yeah. Sachin, I'll just take the construction spent.
In the first nine months, we have spent about ₹800 and not ₹800, roughly about ₹200-odd crores for the erstwhile projects of Indiabulls Real Estate in reviving them.
Sachin Shah
Rajesh, maybe I can add some color to this as well qualitatively. Just to give you some sense, a lot of the projects were 85% to 90% complete, but were not kind of at the finish line.
What we did was we stepped in over here and just finished the project. There wasn't a lot of construction spend that was necessarily to be done, but the project just had to be finished out here.
Sky Forest is a good example of that, Indiabulls Blu, our Thane Phase 1, our Vizag project. They were all kind of 85%, 90% done, and we spent, as Rajesh was indicating, ₹200 crores to kind of take them to OC stage.
They've all received their OCs now. We've delivered these homes and handed over possessions, and, in fact, created RWAs and societies also in many of these projects.
That's really the tough work that's happened out here over the last 12 months in terms of getting it to this stage. Your second part of the question, which was will we see any upside out here?
I think Panvel would be a very good example out here of a project that was stalled for a very long time. This is Panvel Park.
I think when we had stepped in, there were almost only 50 people at site doing construction work. Today, they're more than 1,500 construction workers out there, and we are expecting our sales price, which originally was ₹9,000 to ₹10,000, to go up to roughly ₹14,000 to ₹15,000 out there.
Yes, we do expect some amount of additional kind of surplus coming from the existing projects as well just because of us coming in and stepping in and rebranding these things.
Rashesh Oza
Okay. Thanks for that.
Sir, my second question is regarding the land bank. If you can just give us an update on the 1,400-acre Nashik land bank near Sinnar, and plans to actually monetize some parts of that 35 or 70 acres land in Panvel?
I just wanted to understand, next three years, what kind of cash flows can we generate from monetizing some of this land bank which you own erstwhile?
Sachin Shah
Right. Sure.
Maybe, Aditya, Rajesh, I could take this question. As we've got roughly 1,500 acres in Nashik, where we were sent a termination and eviction notice by MIDC.
We challenged that in Mumbai High Court, which then referred us to Nashik District Court. In Nashik District Court, we were successful in obtaining a stay against this eviction.
While we are fighting with MIDC legally, we are working through talking to them and seeing how we can actually amicably sort this between us. Those talks have progressed over the last several months.
They are continued to progress. Our neighbor out here was Rattan Power India that built a power plant, and now that's been taken over by Mahagenco as well as NTPC.
Again, I think it's in the government's interest, it's in our interest to try to see if we can amicably settle this between us to then develop this 1,500-odd acres. One of the key factors on this 1,500 acres is also that it's SEZ land.
We believe, more than SEZ demand out there today, there's demand for small industrial plots. Our goal would be to solve with MIDC, get the debonding done with respect to the SEZ, and then basically do a plotted kind of development out here for industrial plots, where we're kind of selling wholesale to retail.
We've not really sat and worked through kind of what this would yield us, but we do believe our cost in this project is roughly ₹70-odd crores. We believe the multiple on this would exceed far more than what we've invested, even though that's been invested over time.
We remain very positive about this 1,500 acres kind of yielding a good net surplus for us because it's plotted and because there is a demand out there for industrial plots. With respect to Panvel, we looked at our Panvel portfolio, and we realized there are a bunch of land parcels that were not contiguous, while some of them, they had accumulated some amounts, but maybe it stopped at a certain point.
We're taking a strategic decision out here where certain parcels that we just don't feel today would be valuable to kind of spend more money to aggregate, we sell those, which will be the non-core assets, and we
Operator
Ladies and gentlemen, we have lost the line of the management. Please stay connected while I reconnect the management.
Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, we have the management line reconnected.
Rashesh, if you could please repeat your question for the management. Thank you.
Rashesh Oza
I think Sachin was continuing with the land bank monetization of Panvel. I just wanted to get a sense of that.
If also next three years, if we can get maybe ballpark kind of estimate that how much money can be realized from monetizing this land bank, it will be helpful. Thanks.
Sachin Shah
Hi. Sorry, I got cut off somewhere.
I think you heard my comments about Nashik, right?
Rashesh Oza
That's right.
Sachin Shah
Yeah. Look, Panvel, again, I think it's the land parcel that we feel that we can aggregate more and make contiguous parcel of land where we can do development, is the one that we're keeping.
Anything that we think is non-core, if it's non-contiguous, it's small amounts in a certain village, it doesn't have road connectivity, they have started aggregating these some time ago, but then had stopped doing it, those will be kind of the non-core land parcels that we look to sell. This won't be a big amount over the next year or so, but I think again, like Aditya was saying, our focus is we've already got a huge amount of land bank that's there today that we own, which we're converting into projects which are launched projects, our planned projects, our upcoming projects.
That's really our first focus. Our second focus will be then dealing with these land banks.
Besides Nashik.
Rashesh Oza
Okay.
Sachin Shah
Yeah.
Rashesh Oza
Thanks. My third question relates to the commercial project in Whitefield, East Business Park.
It's a ₹1,100 crore project. I think earlier in the previous presentation, you all had spoken about tying up with Embassy REIT entity or probably building on own and then Can you just throw some light on the timelines and how that will be getting funded and how do we,
Sachin Shah
Sure, I'll have Aditya take this question.
Aditya Virwani
No, Embassy East Business Park is a project that we broke ground on in Q3. We are in excavation stage.
The first phase is 2.7 million square feet, and this will represent exactly what Embassy is best known for, which is large-scale, institutional commercial assets, these REIT-able assets. Yes, you are right.
We had a thought about forward purchasing it with Embassy REIT. We've decided now to just build it out, and on completion, the management will take a call whether we feel we should exit this asset to the right buyer, and REITs are very competitive buyers, or should we hold this and build a little bit of annuity in this development company, too.
This decision has been pushed for much later given it takes three to four years to build this asset.
Rashesh Oza
Okay. A follow-up question is you've spoken about building more commercial assets in this company.
Can we get a little bit of understanding going forward maybe three years down the line, five years down the line, what could be the ratio of residential versus commercial? Any plans to enter the commercial side in Bombay also?
That's my last question. Thanks.
Aditya Virwani
Sure. Today, the company would represent roughly an 80-20 split between residential and commercial.
To be honest with you, given how deep the residential market is, I can see that 80-20 continuing for the foreseeable future, too, maybe 70-30, 30% to commercial. We as Embassy are just focused on trophy-like, selective commercial assets.
We don't feel you can build commercial anywhere and everywhere like you could have done once upon a time. We feel now, post-COVID and during this whole AI revolution, office has to be very selectively chosen, and if we find the right site, and we are looking at many sites, we will definitely double down and back our high-conviction thesis and do more commercial.
Right now, we feel Whitefield ticks that bucket of being the right asset, right location, and right size as well to cater to these GCCs. We're going to continue building that, and if the right opportunity comes in Mumbai, if it comes in Gurgaon, if it comes in Hyderabad, this is the development company that's going to be building those large-scale assets.
Rashesh Oza
All right. Thanks.
I'll come back in the queue for follow-ups, if any. Thank you so much.
Aditya Virwani
Thank you.
Operator
Thank you. We take the next question from the line of Gaurav Khanna from CAPGROW Capital Advisors.
Please go ahead. Gaurav, please unmute your line and proceed with your question.
Gaurav Khanna
Am I audible?
Operator
Yes, please go ahead.
Sachin Shah
Yes.
Gaurav Khanna
Thank you. I have two questions.
First question is the cash balances are continuously reducing with the operational losses, and the second question is that we have given a guidance of 5,000 Cr, but we have only reached 2,000 Cr in the first nine months.
Sachin Shah
Rajesh, can I have you please take that first question on the cash balance reducing with the losses? I think that's the question he was asking.
Then, Aditya, can I have you take the guidance on how from 2,000 we get to 5,000 by the end of the year?
Rajesh Kaimal
Yeah. See, on the losses, this is P&L loss, but if you see the cash balance, that is mostly money deployed in our projects for execution for a new project.
What reflects the loss in the P&L is actually historical numbers which has come for completion, OC, and possession. These are historical numbers, nothing to do with the cash balance.
Our cash balance is pretty robust. We have roughly ₹2,000 crores of cash collection sorry, ₹1,000 crores of cash collection in the first nine months, and we see that increasing.
That's not a correct depiction, loss vis-a-vis collection. Collection is pretty robust, cash balance is pretty robust, and whatever you see a decrease in cash balance in the current quarter is mainly because of deployment in new projects.
Aditya Virwani
To answer your second question on how we'll reach our guidance of 5,000, you all know that this company was a little bit heavier on Q3, Q4 going into it, and Q1, Q2 has been muted given that most of our launches have been Q3 and Q4. Now, as per Q3, we've secured RERA approval on 90% of our projects, roughly launching.
By Q4, we would have launched 19,000-plus crores of GDV, and I think 12,000 of that will basically be in So we feel confident. We have a really marquee one in Worli, Embassy Citadel, that's seeing a lot of good traction.
Only got RERA approval on 30th of December, but Q4 has been a great quarter for Citadel. We also have one upcoming launch in Bangalore for Sky Terraces, Embassy Sky Terraces.
Then between the launches at Embassy Springs, we've seen such robust demand, frankly not seeing a slowdown, pricing has also gone much higher than our earlier underwriting. We still feel confident.
It's two months away. We feel confident that we can hit this 5,000 number.
Gaurav Khanna
Thank you.
Operator
Thank you. We take the next question from the line of Rohit Chaudhri from Integrity Capital.
Please go ahead.
Rohit Chaudhri
Hi. I had a question beyond the Canara Bank fiasco.
Do you see any other legacy issues that could come out to haunt us in the future? Have you done an evaluation on that front?
Aditya Virwani
I think the great thing that happened
Sachin Shah
Sorry, go ahead, Aditya.
Aditya Virwani
Sachin, maybe you can take it just by explaining what you and the management did in the interim of the merger process, and then I'll just add on to that.
Sachin Shah
Sure. I think the key over here is, while the merger got over last year in January, the two years before that, I had stepped in to just start cleaning up the company.
We spent a lot of time cleaning up the balance sheet, which has been completed, doing a change of guard of senior management, instilling HR policies. We had an independent board that was running and looking after the company while the merger was being completed.
A lot of the cleanup, including litigations and legal issues, had been taken care of. In our mind, it wasn't even a corporate guarantee.
It was a obligation to fund, which had been fulfilled by the borrower itself, it should not have come onto us. It's something that did happen, and it caught us unaware.
We actually believe that we have a pretty good understanding of the combined company, the erstwhile Indiabulls as well, and we don't expect really anything new. We do have certain kind of ongoing NCLT kind of discussions going on with respect to certain past things.
There's nothing new that's out there today that we feel can, again, create surprises, and we feel we're in pretty good shape out here. Aditya, with that, I'll hand it over to you to give your thoughts on this.
Aditya Virwani
I think you answered it pretty well. We feel pretty comfortable about the way ahead, and most of the legacy issues are behind us.
It took a little bit of teething issues for us to get to this stage, and we intentionally didn't start our earnings calls for those reasons, but we now feel really comfortable that the company is comfortably in third gear moving into fourth gear. We actually feel that the next year, FY '27, is going to be a very exciting year for the company because we have so much pipeline of these launches that we have for FY '26 as well as a great pipeline for the next year, too.
We can now build on this story and catch up to where Embassy deserves to be.
Rohit Chaudhri
Thank you so much. I have one more follow-up question.
Beyond 2030, I see a lot of these projects getting executed over the next three to four years. What would be our strategy beyond 2030 to how we use our cash that comes in?
Do we go for an asset-light model or an asset-heavy model, if you're having thoughts on that?
Aditya Virwani
Maybe I can take that. Look, for the next three years, it's very clear that we have a lot of raw material to execute on, and whatever we do on the business development side is going to be very, very selective, especially at this time of the housing cycle, where we see land prices inflated, and we see a plateauing on selling price, and this is quite normal in any cycle that we've seen in the past, too.
In a sense, we're quite happy that we're not having surplus liquidity to go out there and buy lands. We don't feel that's the right strategy as a company.
We're being very selective. We did one JD in Whitefield.
It's a residential JD. We love those type of margins.
We put in ₹50 crores as a deposit. We'll put in another ₹20 crores of working capital, and we can see ₹450-plus crores of surplus back to the company.
That is a high IRR deal that we like. We definitely want to do more of those, probably a little bit more asset-light in the early days.
As we go on and as we build enough surplus, we want to actually unlock our land bank, that's one, and two, we want to go high conviction, buy lands where we can have a higher margin, play bigger games, create city-style developments, create large-scale office-type developments. That's the eventual plan post-2030 is to do more ourselves, but I think up until then, we'll be more selective, more asset-light, and focus on just making our brand known in these new markets.
In Mumbai, we have two small projects in NCR. We consider them a pilot into NCR.
We're building out a team there. It seems like the most obvious market to go deeper into after Mumbai, but right now, we have a great halo effect in Bangalore.
We want to build on that. We want to take that into Mumbai, go deep into Mumbai with the right projects.
We don't want to be desperate for any redevelopments. We feel the margins there are too thin.
At the same time, we're very relevant. We're in pretty much most deals, being relevant and seeing if there's a play there for us, but I think we're going to take it step-by-step and not rush into it, especially at this time of the housing cycle.
Rohit Chaudhri
Thank you so much, Aditya. Best of luck.
Aditya Virwani
Thank you.
Operator
Thank you. We take the next question from the line of Siddharth Bhavnani from Shagun Capital.
Please go ahead.
Siddharth Bhavnani
Hi, very good afternoon, sir. Most of my questions were already answered.
I just have few. On EBITDA level, we are not profitable.
Is it because of the price deflation of the market or any demand-supply mismatch in the project locations or anything else?
Sachin Shah
Sure, Rajesh, would you want to take this, and maybe I can add to it, if needed?
Rajesh Kaimal
Yeah. As I said, the EBITDA margin that you're seeing in the P&L today, these are historical projects which have been completed, OC received, and now started handing over to customers.
Or some of them are OC received, and we are doing the balance sellout. This is not depictive of the projects that are ongoing now and what we have launched in the last two quarters.
I would say that all our current projects are good projects with high cash margins, excess of 45%, 47% to 60% kind of cash margins. We're seeing good, robust sales in all our projects, especially Mumbai and Bangalore.
Sachin, if you want to add to that.
Sachin Shah
I think you've said it correctly. I think what you're seeing today as our EBITDA, it's reflected from our revenue number of ₹1,386 crores for the nine months.
When you kind of break down our cost of goods sold over there, the main bulk of it's coming from one, Indiabulls Thane and Vizag, and then completion of certain Golf City, Enigma, Indiabulls Blu projects. These projects have been in the pipeline for the last 10 years.
They've just received their OC. What's happened is the revenue was clocked several years ago in terms of the presales number, in terms of the price per square foot, and the cost to complete, because it dragged on for so long, went on for 10 years.
Finally, when the OC comes in, it gets taken into our P&L. I don't think our EBITDA is reflective of what the company is doing today, the net cash surplus margins that we're generating on the projects today, and how we're looking at getting cash surplus in the system over the next kind of two or three years, which will then obviously help us grow the business even more.
I think there's a big difference in kind of what EBITDA is reflecting versus where the company is operationally today.
Siddharth Bhavnani
Sir. Understood.
One more thing: what is the average ticket size of our residential projects, and also the average ticket size for residential projects specifically in Mumbai location? What kind of ticket size you are looking for?
Sachin Shah
Look, I think that's a very tough question to answer because it's a micromarket-specific answer on what our price per square foot would be. What it'll be in Thane will be very different than what it'll be in Worli versus what it'll be in Alibaug.
I think it's really dependent on the project and the location. I think it's tough to average it out across projects.
That might not be the right way of looking at it.
Siddharth Bhavnani
Okay. Sir.
Thank you, sir. That's all from my side.
Operator
Thank you. We take the next question from the line of Roshan from Invan Capital Fund.
Please go ahead.
Roshan
Hello. Good morning.
Aditya Virwani
Good morning, Roshan.
Roshan
Yeah. I just wanted to ask two questions.
First is when will the balance sheet show profitability, because main investors look for profit, from the last three to four quarters, it's in loss. Second is why was the revenue hit by 50% this quarter?
Sachin Shah
Rajesh, would you like to take this?
Rajesh Kaimal
Yeah. Because we are now closing out all the legacy projects, the balance sheet profit will take at least four to six quarters to show on the P&L.
As far as revenue is concerned, as I earlier said, we have limited number of projects. Most of our projects are OC received now, and what we are doing booking now is the balance sales that we are clocking, and we are recognizing the revenue and EBITDA.
Some of these new projects, when it comes for OC is when you will see the revenue in the P&L going up. You can progressively see presales and collection accelerating at a much faster pace as what you would see in the P&L.
Roshan
Okay. One more thing: the Whitefield project, one of the CEO has spoken about, that ₹70 crores investment and a surplus of ₹400 crores, when will that come into the sheet, or when will the project be completed?
Aditya Virwani
I'll take that. We closed that JD in September, October of last year, and we're going to launch it in Q3 of this year, of of FY '27.
Roshan
That's a good thing. I'm just looking for some profitability numbers soon.
Thank you.
Rajesh Kaimal
Roshan, just to reiterate, while profitability in the P&L will be a little different, but the embedded EBITDA and profit in each of these projects has already started. You can see the cash flow is something that will be relevant over here.
You can see good collections, good presale, good collection, and a good cash margin that we will be clocking every quarter starting from now. I think that will be a good benchmark for you to follow as compared to the P&L revenue and profit.
Aditya Virwani
I guess, Roshan, if I could add to that the way to look at it is any Embassy project that we have brought in, once we get OCs on those projects, it will hit the top and bottom line. The erstwhile Indiabulls projects like Visakhapatnam, for example, or any of the old legacy projects, because of the mismanagement, is hurting and reflecting today.
What's reflecting today is actually the sins of the last few years, and it's going to take some time naturally. While Rajesh Kaimal had said four, six quarters, it could even take a little bit longer as more OCs of the Embassy projects come in and take care of that number.
Yes, unfortunately, headlines might not be great, but we are just focusing on presales, on collections, on just basic business principles, and hoping that real estate investors who understand how accounting works will be able to see through this and understand. Frankly, there's not much that the management can do to remedy this in the short term.
Roshan
Understood. I got it.
I got your point.
Operator
Thank you. We take the next question from the line of Kevin Gandhi from CAPGROW Capital Advisors.
Please go ahead.
Kevin Gandhi
Hello. I hope I'm audible.
Sachin Shah
Hi, Kevin. We can hear you.
Aditya Virwani
Hello.
Sachin Shah
We can hear you.
Kevin Gandhi
Yeah. Sir, I had a couple of questions.
Basically, I actually missed out on the point of your commentary on the Nashik and the Panvel projects. Can you just please repeat what is the planned parcels?
Sachin Shah
Look, Nashik is roughly 1,500-odd acres, and our plan is to figure out how to amicably reach a resolution with MIDC and the government to solve this,
Kevin Gandhi
Hello.
Sachin Shah
right? Can you hear me?
Kevin?
Kevin Gandhi
Hello.
Sachin Shah
Kevin, can you hear us?
Rajesh Kaimal
We can hear you, Sachin, but I think Kevin's line is a little bad.
Sachin Shah
I know. I can hear Kevin.
Kevin?
Operator
Kevin has left the question queue, sir. We'll move on to the next question, which is from the line of Amish Kanani from Novice Investment Managers.
Please go ahead.
Amish Kanani
Hi, sir. Congratulations on a successful integration of the company.
Also congratulations on continuously updating the investors at least through the presentations that we've been seeing all these quarters. Also congratulations on starting the concall so that we get the clarity on the company's progress.
I have two questions, sir. One, Worli project, we've seen through press release that we had received RERA, but it's such a large project and such a marquee launch price of between ₹80,000 to ₹1 lakh of rupees.
What is holding the launch, if at all, or is it a soft launch, and maybe we'll announce the collection in due course of time? One, specific to Worli, if you can give us some update of where are we and when will we launch or soft launch, and is it a typical MOU type of sales that Godrej Group does in Mumbai?
Sir, we have a medium-term GDV and presales target versus presales and GDV targets for this year. If you can give us some early indication, if possible, whether what kind of GDV or presales is possible in FY '27, or should we kind of deduct the three-year target minus this year's target, and deduce something on FY '27?
Sachin Shah
Sure. Let me maybe take a cut at it, and Aditya, you can step in.
Look, I think with respect to the Bombay launch, we were just waiting for our RERA approval, which came, as Aditya was saying, on December 30th of last quarter. In January, we started our Mumbai campaign.
You should be seeing our hoardings all across the city. Mumbai presales have started for the project, and in due course, we will come out with kind of what our numbers look like for this quarter with respect to Citadel sales.
I think that was your one question on Citadel. With respect to FY '27, we will be coming out with guidance in around the March or April timeframe, for the second year of our three-year kind of guidance that we had.
Give us a few months, and maybe we will come out with guidance, but it's looking strong for FY '27. In FY '26, in terms of GDV, we've hit ₹19,000 crores across several projects, and we are still confident, even though we've hit ₹2,000 crores of presales in the first three quarters.
If you just look at our numbers, the first six months, we were at 600. Then now we are at 2,000, and we think we can get that 2,000 up to 5,000 by the end of March 31st.
We're sticking to our guidance. We have a plan in place, and we're trying to execute on that over the next kind of 60-odd days or so.
Yeah?
Amish Kanani
Yes. Sir, on the debt side, how comfortable we are with this kind of debt, what kind of construction needs that we'll have?
I understand you said the surplus that we'll be generating is enough to repay the debt, but the question is, one, what is the current cost of capital, if at all, what is the range of costs that we are facing? Because at least on paper, it's a company which is undergoing through a so-called bankruptcy process.
I know we're fighting in the court, but one, cost of capital, and in that context, there was a reference that shareholder debt is also there, which we were wondering whether we should convert. If you can give some color there, what are the current thoughts, if at all?
Sachin Shah
Sure, Rajesh, would you like to take this?
Rajesh Kaimal
Yeah. Yes, thank you for all your compliments.
On the debt side, we have sufficient funds for executing our current launch projects. Some of the projects which are coming up for launch in the next financial year, we will be raising some construction finance for those particular projects.
The current cost of capital is a little high because we are in the cycle where we are launching projects, and we see that over the next four to six quarters, we'll bring down the cost of debt progressively. Today, the average cost of debt is around 14%, and some of the new construction finance that we are raising today is sub-9%.
That's the indication that in the in-principle term sheet that we have got from many of the lenders whom we are talking to is sub-9%. Some of these debts are historical in nature, and we will pay them down over the next few quarters.
Our endeavor is to bring down this cost of capital from the current 14% to the 10% kind of range over the next year or so. It might take a little longer, but it'll progressively come down.
Amish Kanani
Sure. Sir, one last question on this.
I hope our bankers understand the case is more a hindrance and irritant on the whole thing given the scale of operation of our company and surplus that we will generate. I hope bankers are giving us a normal treatment, yeah.
They're not scared the way say maybe equity market investors are because of whatever reasons.
Rajesh Kaimal
Absolutely. You're right, and we have engaged with the bankers right from December 12th, the next day of our NCLAT stay.
We have engaged with our bankers on a regular basis, and happy to say that all the bankers understand this is a very bizarre kind of a judgment where the first corporate guarantor was discharged, and five minutes later, we were included. They completely understand we have a strong legal case in our favor, and they have been very supportive of us.
As you can see, none of them have called back their loans or even issued a letter to us. They've only taken clarifications from us, and they are very, very confident of us getting out.
We have not even received a kind of a adverse remark or a letter from any of our bankers today. We are, in fact, speaking to bankers on the next phase of capital raise for, for example, Embassy East Business Park, which we have launched today.
We are trying to raise construction finance from banks like Bank of Baroda, SBI. They're not even concerned about all these things.
They know that we have a pretty strong case, our balance sheet is very strong, and these are the banks who are talking to us that construction finance sub-9%.
Amish Kanani
Sure, sir. That's very
Sachin Shah
Rajesh, I'll add, even the rating agencies have not downgraded us. They've understood this situation.
You've met them, I think people understand what's happened out here.
Amish Kanani
Sure, sir. Thanks a lot, and all the best.
Operator
Thank you. We take the next question from the line of Deepak Purswani from Swan Investment.
Please go ahead.
Deepak Purswani
Yeah. Hi, good afternoon, sir, and thank you for taking my question.
Sir, just wanted to get your perspective on two things. Firstly, from the next three-year perspective, we are growing the presales and collection.
If you can also get a broader sense in terms of the construction as well as approval budget as well as the BD activity which we are looking out from the next three-year perspective, which can give us a sense in terms of the net cash flows. Second part of the question is in terms of the launch pipeline which we have indicated, significant one in the near term appears to be the Embassy Citadel, which is in Worli itself.
If you can get a broader sense we are assessing the market because from the market perspective in general, there are other large developers has also come out with a significant project pipeline in this area. What would be our sales strategy there, and how has been our assessment in terms of the sales response in this micromarket?
Sachin Shah
Sure. Aditya, do you want to take the first part of the question or even the second part with respect to pricing strategy for Citadel?
Aditya Virwani
Let me take the second question first. Look, yes, we know that there's a lot of supply in Worli.
We have intentionally positioned ourselves quite differently from a ticket-size point of view, from a product itself. We are not a full floor plate.
By the way, we're not launching at ₹1 lakh square foot. We're way more competitive than what's out there in the market.
Also our starting ticket sizes, our units start at also 1,800 square feet. I think this positions us quite uniquely because yes, we're a luxury developer.
Yes, the Mumbai homebuyer might take some time to understand the Embassy brand, and the early days, we will be a little bit more generous with our selling strategy. As the show suite is ready, which is going to be ready in April, May, we will do a little bit of presales now that we have RERA from now until April, clock some good numbers, and then we feel this brand can really get its premium and we can really showcase the product.
This is our strategy. We're very aware about the market and what's happening there.
There are some developers who are asking a much higher price than what we are going out in the market, and I feel that's where we can be a little bit unique with our offering. Also on the cash margin for Citadel, sorry, was your question on Citadel specifically or
Deepak Purswani
If you can also get a broader sense for the cash flow profile from the next three-year perspective, the way we have mentioned about the presales and collection, if you can also give a sense on what would be our approval cost budget and construction cost budget, and what is the kind of new BD budget we are looking out from the next three-year perspective?
Aditya Virwani
Got it. For all the FY '26 launches, we have secured all our approval funding from the debt that we raised from Kotak and enough money to working capital to even pass through RERA and the initial sales period.
For FY '27, if you look at some of our projects that we have lined up for next year, a lot of them are also in Embassy Springs, which is a established township, where we already have the DP, we have the master plan approvals. We are unlocking lands there where we don't need a whole lot of working capital to do so.
The other one would be Embassy Knowledge Park, another large land where we've already secured building plan on. We actually feel that we're in a unique situation where we don't need too much more approval money going forward.
It was all done when we did this raise, and it for us was a one-and-done exercise where yes, it's an inverted U curve chart in the sense, debt has gone up slightly for us to execute this. Maybe a few projects will top up a little bit, but everyone will see the company graduate to a lower cost of capital and a much lower debt basis as well over time.
I don't have an exact number for you, but feel comfortable that it's not a whole lot of money needed to launch even the future projects for next year.
Deepak Purswani
Okay. Thank you, and wish you all the best.
Sachin Shah
Deepak, I think your slide 11 talks about the launches for the next three years, what the cost to complete is, and what the net surplus we expect to make from it in our investor deck.
Deepak Purswani
Fine. Thank you, and wish you all the best.
Operator
Thank you. We take the next question from the line
Sachin Shah
We'll take that as our last question.
Operator
All right, sir. We take the next question from the line of Varun Dujari from Vinayak Udyog.
Please go ahead.
Varun Dujari
Good afternoon to you, sir. Hello, sir.
Am I audible?
Aditya Virwani
Yes.
Varun Dujari
Sir, basically, the question has been raised earlier, but I would put it differently. Sir, when can we turn 11%, 12% ROE positive company?
Till when we can turn ROE 11%, 12%? Hello?
Aditya Virwani
Yeah.
Sachin Shah
I we heard you. Look, I think Yeah, I I think look, it's a it's a interesting question you're asking about return on equity.
Look, I think firstly, it's very important to note look, this is a merger of two companies that have come together, where during the merger itself, there was reverse merger accounting that took place. There were assets that were fair market valued with respect to when the combination took place, right?
Today, what you're seeing is actually a at least on the P&L perspective, you're seeing a PAT number that reflects projects that have been in the system for the last several years that have finally received its OC. I think we will have to wait for this next cycle of assets that we are developing today to be completed, reach OC, and that's when you'll start seeing kind of actually probably even maybe a higher ROE, but it'll be from this next set of projects that will take the next kind of, two, three years to kind of get finished, completed, developed, cash surplus to come out of it, and then obviously a PAT number to be reflected based on that as well.
I I think it's tough to project when exactly it would happen, but I think we're moving in the right direction out here with respect to completing the problems that we had, in the company, in the merged entity, putting that behind us, and then focusing on, what we have today, which is our land bank, developing that, and kind of growth out there over the next several years. Aditya and Rajesh, please feel free to add to this.
Rajesh Kaimal
No, you covered it, Sachin, well. I don't know, Gautam, if you have any further questions on this.
Varun Dujari
Sir, would it be right to assume that for another year or half, we shall be loss-making company, at least from the profit/loss account sense?
Rajesh Kaimal
Yes, we will be PAT negative for the next six-odd quarters, but we'll be cash flow profitable. You can see that from the cash flow.
Varun Dujari
Okay. Sir, regarding the land parcel in the Panvel where we have huge land parcel, when do we plan to develop the project in the Panvel, sir, where we have a large land parcel?
Aditya Virwani
Gautam, maybe I can take that.
Sachin Shah
Sure. Okay.
Aditya Virwani
Yes, the company does have a significant amount of land in the whole Panvel, Raigad region, which is quite exciting. If I have to be honest, from a timing point of view, we don't see this as the number one priority.
We see the number one priority unlocking the existing receivables and the and selling the unsold inventory. We see priority number two launching the projects that can be launched very quickly, which included Citadel, which includes all the Embassy Springs projects and all the pipeline that we have for FY '26 and '27.
The lands that we have are lands that can be aggregated, completed because they might not be complete parcels today. They need conversions.
These take a lot of time in in real estate and something that's not very predictable. We've intentionally wanted to keep it out of the GDV because when the company has surplus money that we can address all of these lands with and when we can bake the cake a little bit more and have more predictable timing and sense planning on what the projects can do, that's when we'll bring this to the market.
Frankly, it is a priority number three for the company. It's not something that we're focusing a lot of our energy on.
In fact, we are more keen on deals out there, third-party deals that we can do, like the Whitefield one I explained, where within 12 months, we should be able to launch. That really, I feel, is the art of this business is how fast can you move from land to launch.
We are going to demonstrate that with the Whitefield launch. It will be the first new project.
I think we will generate a huge IRR there, and those are the type of deals we want to do. Then when the company generates surplus after paying construction, after deleveraging, and we have further cash flow to deploy, then I feel it is the right time to address the land banks that we have, except for Nashik.
Nashik is an outlier, large piece, 1,500 acres. That is something of top priority that the management is addressing immediately.
Varun Dujari
Aditya, aren't you worried the promoter's pledge is almost 50%, and the prices of the shares are under heavy pressure?
Aditya Virwani
I'm not too worried, to be honest, Gautam, because from a promoter side, we have enough assets backing the loans that we have. We are quite a unique structure, where we have three listed entities.
We have our REIT, we have WeWork, and we have the development company. This is where we see the most value creation.
We feel comfortable that, over time, the family can pay down its share the shareholding loan. That is the idea, of the families to eventually over the next couple of years get to a place where we pay down that shareholder loan.
Varun Dujari
Okay. That would be all, sir.
Thanks a lot.
Aditya Virwani
Thank you.
Operator
Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, due to time constraint, we take that as the last question, and conclude the question-and-answer session.
I now hand over the conference to the management for their closing comments.
Aditya Virwani
Thank you for your time and joining us today. We appreciate your continued interest in Embassy Developments Limited.
Should you have any further questions or require additional information, please feel free to reach out to us or to SGA, our investor relations adviser, who'll be happy to assist you. Thank you all, and have a good day.
Operator
Thank you. On behalf of Embassy Developments Limited, that concludes this conference call.
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