Godrej Agrovet Limited

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Q3 FY2026 · Earnings Call TranscriptFebruary 4, 2026

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, good day and welcome to Godrej Agrovet Limited Q3 FY26 earnings conference call hosted by Equirus Securities Private Limited. As a reminder, all participant lines will be in the listen-only mode, and there will be an opportunity for you to ask questions after the presentation concludes.

Should you need assistance during this conference call, please signal an operator by pressing star then zero on your touchtone phone. Please note that this conference is being recorded.

I now hand the conference over to Mr. Shivansh from Equirus Securities Private Limited.

Thank you and over to you, sir.

Shivansh Singh

Thank you. Good afternoon everyone and thank you for joining us on the Godrej Agrovet Q3 FY26 earnings conference call.

From the company, we have with us Mr. Nadir Godrej, Chairman of the company; Mr.

Sunil Kataria, Chief Executive Officer and Managing Director; Mr. S.

Varadaraj, Chief Financial Officer; Mr. Burjis Godrej, Managing Director, Astec LifeSciences; and Mr.

Arijit Mukherjee, Chief Operating Officer, Astec LifeSciences. We would like to begin the call with brief opening remarks from the management, following which we will have the forum open for an interactive question-and-answer session.

Before we start, I would like to point out that some statements made in today's call may be forward-looking and a disclaimer to this effect has been included in the earnings presentation shared with you earlier. I would now like to invite Mr.

Nadir Godrej to make the initial remarks. Over to you, sir.

Nadir Godrej

Good afternoon everyone. I welcome you all to the Godrej Agrovet earnings call.

Now, I will comment on the business update for quarter 3, fiscal year '26. Godrej Agrovet delivered a strong performance in quarter 3, fiscal year '26, with consolidated revenues growing by 11% year on year and profitability accelerating sharply, reflected in a 23% year-on-year increase in profit before tax before exceptional items.

This was driven by disciplined margin expansion, operational efficiencies, and strong contributions from the vegetable oil, animal feed, poultry and processed foods businesses, alongside a sharp turnaround in Astec. For the 9 months ended 31st December 2025, the company reported consolidated revenues of ₹7,900 crore, an increase of 9% year on year.

Profit before tax, excluding non-recurring and exceptional items for the period, was ₹482 crore, marking a healthy 17% year-on-year growth. Coming to the key financial and business highlights of each of our business segments, the animal feed segment delivered another quarter of strong volume-led growth with volumes up 12% year on year in quarter 3.

Notably, cattle feed volumes grew by 21%, contributing meaningfully to the overall expansion. The underlying segment result grew 17% year on year, and underlying EBIT per metric ton improved to ₹2,020 per metric ton in quarter 3, fiscal year '26, from ₹1,937 per metric ton in quarter 3, fiscal year '25.

Our vegetable oil business continued to deliver a stellar performance with segment revenue growing 27% year on year and 25% growth in segment results, driven by improved fresh fruit bunch arrivals and a better oil extraction ratio. The crop protection business delivered a 37% year-on-year revenue growth, driven by higher salience of generics and select specialty products.

Segment results were flat, reflecting the impact of lower volumes in both in-licensing and in-house portfolios due to unseasonal rains and cyclones across key markets. Astec LifeSciences registered a strong recovery with revenues growing 33% year on year, driven by robust volume growth across both the enterprise and CDMO segments.

The EBITDA for the quarter turned positive at ₹5 crore, a sharp improvement compared to a loss in the same period last year, supported by higher volumes and improved gross margins in the enterprise category. Creamline Dairy recorded a 3% year-on-year revenue growth, supported by stable volumes across key product categories.

Profitability, however, remained under pressure with EBITDA declining to ₹11 crore and margin softening to 3%, primarily due to higher milk procurement cost and a shortfall in revenue growth. Godrej Foods delivered stable revenues of ₹215 crore.

Profitability strengthened significantly with EBITDA growing 51% year on year to ₹17 crore and margins expanding to 8%, supported by improved contribution margins in the branded portfolio and better live bird prices. The business continued to advance its strategic shift toward value-added offerings with branded salience rising to 81% in quarter 3 from 77% last year.

Thank you.

Operator

Sir, can we start with the Q&A?

Nadir Godrej

Yes. Yes, please.

Operator

Sir. Thank you very much.

We will now begin the question-and-answer session. Anyone who wishes to ask a question may press star and one on their touchtone telephone.

If you wish to remove yourself from the question queue, you may press star and two. Participants are requested to use handsets while asking a question.

Ladies and gentlemen, we will wait for a moment while the question queue assembles. The first question is from the line of Prabal Sen from ICICI Securities.

Please go ahead.

Prabal Sen

Thank you for the opportunity, sir. I hope I'm audible.

Nadir Godrej

Yes, Prabal. You're audible.

Prabal Sen

Very good afternoon. Congratulations first of all on a good set of numbers.

A couple of questions. One, the realization on the vegetable oil front, specifically on the palm oil subsegment seems to have strengthened fairly sharply.

Just wanted your views on what the main reasons are and what kind of outlook do you see in terms of pricing for this segment?

Sunil Kataria

Hi, Prabal. This is Sunil Kataria here.

Okay. I think there are a couple of operational factors and I would also like to talk about a bit of the pricing part.

First, let me talk about the pricing part. Actually, if I were to see on Q3 over Q3 last year, year on year, actually pricing overall, in fact, actually is a negative one, right?

Because while the palm kernel oil prices were higher than last year's, actually the CPO prices were lower than last year. They kind of offset, and actually the price-led impact on growth is actually only a negative one.

What this is led by primarily is a strong volume growth. The numbers behind the volume growth obviously are led by three, four important operational parameters.

One is we have been seeing a very healthy growth in our fresh fruit bunches metric tons. Which has happened and that is in the range of 16%.

Then we have seen a steady work by the team on improving our OER, which is the efficiency from oil extractions, and that also has reached a all-time high number in this quarter. I think a very focused approach towards building I think operational efficiencies across is one of the critical parameters which has gone towards this.

Prabal Sen

As a follow-up, the oil extraction ratio that you mentioned, if I'm not mistaken, last quarter the number was given as about 19.7% or so. What is the kind of range that we've seen this quarter?

Sunil Kataria

Last year last quarter about 19.49%, 19.5% you can take, and in this quarter, we have touched a all-time high of 21%. Obviously, this varies a lot with some of the weather, but even if I were to compare because this Q3 in any case has a spike.

I think a good way to look at this would be what was it last year Q3 versus what is this year Q3. Last year Q3 this number was 20.7%, and this year we have beaten that to 21%.

Right,

Prabal Sen

right. Got it.

The other question was, sir, with respect to the salience of branded products. You mentioned that in the foods business, the salience is at 81%.

Correct me if I'm wrong, this has come down a bit on a sequential basis because Q2 I think the number was closer to 85%? Just a second.

We'll just look at the number.

Sunil Kataria

Okay. I don't think so this is a very meaningful change.

I'll just check the number again. This hovers in the range of around 81, 80 to 81, 82%.

It is not any meaningful if the question really is to look at was there any meaningful drop because of any challenges in our business in terms of branded? You're right.

It was 85%, but again, there are seasonalities in this. Now, again, if I were to compare Q3 last year versus this year Q3, right, that is 77% and it's 81% now this year.

Prabal Sen

Got it, sir. Can we get the similar number for the dairy part also, sir, the value-added product share for this quarter?

Sunil Kataria

We'll just get you that also. Also one thing which on this couple is happening is because we have one thing which is very clear direction now strategy shift that is happening and we have all communicated is that this live bird part of the business, while we are reducing it, this plays till we obviously meaningfully we have dropped it obviously very sharply.

Till we keep on dropping, dropping, dropping this to a negligible number finally over the years, this will have a little volatility, which keeps on then changing this percentage because these are minor 2, 3% change differences. I would say the answer is, is there any shift away from our branded focus, is there any impact on that?

No, not at all.

Prabal Sen

Understood, sir. I just wanted to clarify the numbers.

Can we get the number for dairy also then?

Sunil Kataria

Yeah. Dairy our value-added product salience this year is total is 35%.

35.8%, yeah. 35% of total business?

That's what you said? 35% of total business, which in the last year same quarter was 34%, 33.8%.

Prabal Sen

One last question, sir, if I may. This quarter would have probably still seen, at least from the presentation, that in the crop protection business there was still some impact, or at least in 9 months there is still the impact of the weather patterns and the slower application due to the rainfalls.

How should we look at the last quarter at this point of time for crop protection?

Sunil Kataria

I think sir very important that you have asked this question because I would have addressed it otherwise as well. I would say, the way I see the weather patterns and there's two things happened.

In the Q3, first of all, this time again we all across the industry we've been seeing there have been very unseasonal rains which almost extended to mid-November. For example, one of biggest products that we have is the product which cater to grape crops.

Now, obviously, we all read that grape crops got really devastated this time. The weather patterns really obviously played its own role.

Going forward in the Q3 Q4, I think this quarter there is one last base effect which will come into play for us. I would like to call that out is that the Hitweed normally has co-marketing sales in our base of quarter 4 last year, which given the fact that the Hitweed season has got impacted this year in the first half itself, that base effect will remain for us and that will impact the quarter 4 of crop protection, but that's a base effect.

If I were to take out that impact of the Hitweed co-marketing out, we are targeting to grow at a very healthy pace in the ex this co-marketing number on a top line basis. That's where the focus is.

We expect now this base effect will finally be gone after this.

Prabal Sen

That's all for me, sir. Thank you so much and all the best.

Operator

Thank you, sir. The next question is from the line of Abhijit Akella from KIE.

Please go ahead.

Abhijit Akella

Yeah. Good afternoon.

Thank you so much for taking my questions.

Sunil Kataria

Hi, Abhijit.

Abhijit Akella

Hi. Good afternoon, sir.

Maybe, just to start, would be great to get your perspective on any outcome of the possible sort of value-unlocking initiatives, the analysis that you've been doing over the last few months. What are your thoughts at this point in time, and what portfolio of businesses do you see it best for Godrej to sort of continue with?

Sunil Kataria

Abhijit, okay, thanks for asking this question. This obviously, as we have multiple businesses.

Right now, as we talk, we are in a very deep work right now is ongoing currently. In fact I would say we are almost at the fag end of this entire deep strategy work that we had started around 2 months back, where this entire portfolio choice making, portfolio role allocations will happen.

Immediately if you ask me, I'm not able to tell you, but yes, we are at the fag end of this. We are going to make some very clear, sharp choices in the businesses which we clearly see as the top end of our investments and top end of our growth choices.

We'll make some choices about businesses. We may say that, okay, hey, we want to put them into maybe a little bit of a depriority.

I guess somewhere towards early April, we should be able to come back to the Street with a proper communication, and I would like to do a proper interaction to give a full, deep point of view on how do we see as a group the unlock and the journey, roadmap journey of GAVL. To tell you on this, I think we have now a pretty reasonably well emerging clarity on how we want to play the portfolio.

It's just that we have to give it fine-tuned, and we have to do some internal alignments.

Abhijit Akella

Got it. No, thank you, sir.

That's helpful. Just one other if I may on Astec.

We've seen a little bit of a turnaround there, but of course, we're still a long way away from our past glory days. Just wanted to seek your perspective on how you're seeing trends in the fourth quarter now coming up and then any commentary with regard to the upcoming year basis, maybe Mr.

Godrej's interactions with potential customers at recent trade fairs and that sort of thing. Thank you so much.

Sunil Kataria

I'll ask Arijit and Burjis to then pitch in on this too.

Arijit Mukherjee

If you have seen, in Q3 also, we have seen a revenue growth of around a year on year is a 33% growth and also EBITDA positive. From historically, Q4 has been a bit better quarter for us because this is the time where both our enterprise and CDMO and export and domestic market also goes.

I think we should follow this trend which we have achieved in Q3. Overall, I think this year we should see a growth of around 20% in terms of the revenue.

Bottom line, because some of the negotiations are still continuing, we are not in position right now to see the bottom line. We see that it will be an EBITDA year on will be the positive.

We'll be closing in terms of the positive EBITDA for this year.

Burjis Godrej

For next year, we're targeting revenue growth of about 15%, and we're very pleased to see that our inquiry funnel has doubled from 22

Sunil Kataria

to 45. One thing which is very clear, I think in the last call which has happened that we had asked for how do we see this year, we had said we are targeting ourselves to be EBITDA break-even this year.

I think that guidance stays for us. I think we were pretty confident that we should be able to pull that off.

I think the turnaround is well and truly in play now is what I would say.

Abhijit Akella

Got it. Thank you for that.

Just maybe probe one level deeper. This 15% growth target for next year, is that entirely driven by the CDMO business or

Sunil Kataria

No, it will be a mix of see, okay, this is a broad direction. To be very honest, we are in the middle of our annual operating cycle, but this is something we definitely would aspire to.

I think there will be a play of both CDMO and enterprise, but we clearly see CDMO leading the growth, and it'll grow faster than enterprise for us.

Nadir Godrej

We're very pleased to see that the enterprise business has turned around this year, and we're expecting it to be strong in the future.

Abhijit Akella

Is it fair to assume that the margin profile on the incremental growth that we achieve in this business is going to be, maybe substantially superior to what the overall enterprise business does? Is that a fair assumption?

Sunil Kataria

That's fair to assume. The CDMO business margin profile is indexed at around 1.5 times at least of enterprise business.

Abhijit Akella

Okay. Got it, sir.

Thank you so much. I'll come back in the queue for any more.

Operator

Thank you, sir. The next question is from the line of Aejas Lakhani from Unifi AMC.

Please go ahead.

Aejas Lakhani

Hi, team. Two questions.

First one is that, if you could call out in palm oil, there's a significant divergence between PKO and CPO pricing, and that spread has been expanding. Could you call out what is driving the PKO dynamics and where are we in our backward and forward integration from a standpoint of capex and where the incremental plants are coming?

That's my first question.

Sunil Kataria

Okay. This divergence between PKO and CPO, see, PKO is actually part of lauric segment of the oil, and it is also very connected in a way with play with coconut as well, right?

That has a very different kind of usage, which is into a lot of, what do you call B2B usage in the industry. That plays a very different kind of a demand and supply situation, and hence that divergence does happen.

CPO prices are pretty much linked to what is the overall dynamics of the multiple soft oils which play out. I think these two have different trends, and they do tend to play out a little differently.

That's why if you see, one trend that we are clearly seeing right now in the Q3 is that the CPO prices actually have marginally lower over the CPO of last year Q3, but the PKO is not following that trend.

Aejas Lakhani

Right, Mr. Kataria.

Actually, a follow-up is that this construct that you've just presented was always the case, right? The divergence in prices if you see over the last 2 to 3 years has expanded materially.

I'm trying to understand that because there are different dynamics that are working, could you give some color about Sunil,

Nadir Godrej

can I add something on this?

Sunil Kataria

I would ask Mr. Godrej to also pitch in here.

I think he has a perspective of history.

Nadir Godrej

I think the supply of coconut oil has been impacted, and the demand for both of these is higher than before. Coconut oil is shot up considerably, and it is at a significant premium to PK oil.

It's not very clear whether this will change over time, but it's very likely it's not easy to increase coconut oil production, and there seems to be a lot of demand. It looks like this premium is going to last, but we can't be sure.

Aejas Lakhani

Understood. That was very helpful, sir.

Sir, could you just call out that some of the initiatives on plantations that we've taken are appearing to bear fruit, and what's the call out for FFB bunches in '27?

Sunil Kataria

I'll take the shot at this. I think, first of all, I would like to point out

Aejas Lakhani

Hello?

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, the line for the management seems to have disconnected. Please hold while we reconnect them.

Ladies and gentlemen, the line for the management has been reconnected. Thank you and over to you, sir.

Sunil Kataria

Okay. I'll continue here.

As I said that there are multiple levers at play right now. See, one piece which I talked of last time also as part of our strategy overall shift is that we want to start driving multiple pillars of growth in the chosen businesses.

While we overall talk the strategy at a later time, this is one business where multiple pillars of growth are already in play. First and foremost is, as of we talk today, that we have already done a record-high expansion of acreage, hectares.

Today, we are done 15,000-hectare expansion in the 9-month period, and we are slated to be roughly around 17,000, 18,000 by the end of the year. Just to give you a perspective, this number was almost half last year.

That's the kind of pace that we have kind of set up towards expansion. Secondly, I think there's a lot of work that we do through our Samadhan centres that we have set up, which are very, very strong capability centres which work very regularly with farmers in all the multiple parts of, as of now, Andhra, Telangana, and later on Northeast, where they work with farmers in helping the palm plantations in improving their yields, improving their harvesting practices, improving their output.

That also I think starting to yield better results.

Aejas Lakhani

Going back on the future outlook, I think we expect while obviously there can be seasonalities and some very off years, which can always play, but on a regular basis, I think this is a business is slated for a FFB tonnage growth of I think a good healthy teens in terms of anywhere between 12 to 15%?

Sunil Kataria

Understood. Sir, you're calling 12 to 15% FFB increases in FY27, right?

Aejas Lakhani

I'm saying overall long-term period, because I'm saying sometimes one-off years can happen if the monsoons are pretty bad in some year, it does tend to impact the plantation maybe a year later. I'm talking really on a steady-state basis, on a CAGR, we are pretty confident given the kind of acreage expansion that's seeing, given the work that we are doing farmers, that we would be in this teens range of expansion.

Sunil Kataria

Plus, one more thing which will happen over the years in this business, one of the things which is going to come on play is there is a demographic dividend which will start playing out over a period of couple of years that as more and more plantations are getting into, they will get from becoming 0 to 4 years age to 4 to 4-plus years. That's when the productivity of the plantation starts, and they are in the most high productivity stages between 4 to 18 years.

That's in a way almost if I were to compare the India's has seen its own demographic dividend paying out, it's a demographic dividend of productivity starts playing on the mix of plantations also going forward.

Aejas Lakhani

Yes, sir. Point taken.

Sir, could you just speak about the backward and forward integration here on the value-added side, and where are we in the capex journey?

Sunil Kataria

Yeah. We have already put in the capex in terms of a downstream refinery for making products which are high-value products like the cocoa butter substitute, the cocoa butter equivalents, the CPKO refining.

All these are right now in the last stages of implementation. Before I go downstream, our new CPO processing plant upstream in Khammam will go live in a matter of 2 months, and our downstream refinery will also go get commissioned by somewhere in the first quarter of the coming year.

That will see us actually then ramping up the downstream value-added part.

Aejas Lakhani

Understood. Sir, my next question is on the dairy.

Sir, if you go to see, right, about a year and a half back, we had the consultants who we hired, and you've spoken about multiple structural changes you have done. While that looked good in 1 year given how the milk inflation has been, last year it's not started to pan out.

I'm trying to understand that from your vantage, all the efforts that you have put in, you're seeing better traction, but the material uptake that you had expected from this business is still not shaping out even 1, 1 and a half year after the consultants have left us. Could you please throw some light on that?

Sunil Kataria

I think I would say the work which has happened on the consultant side, there's a very large piece of work which happened on the gross margin expansion. If you see that margin expansion by and large is still holding on.

In fact if you see, there is a impact of 3-odd percentage points on the overall gross margin play for us despite milk procurement being as high as 10 to 10-odd percent higher for us because we obviously have a larger piece of procurement which happens from Maharashtra. Maharashtra has seen more inflation than rest of the states.

In fact, I would say it is actually some of that structural cost work which happened at the back end where we have been able to still absorb this piece to large extent and not get into a spiral otherwise. Otherwise, a 10% milk price increase can be pretty devastating.

In the past, it would have been. I think that piece stays.

Going forward, yes, the question to which you're asking is, okay, how more meaningful can the overall impact be? I think again as part of the strategy work and some operational work that we're doing, and this is again maybe I'll talk much more in detail when we meet, is that there are some choices we are doing and that is actually a critical work which is going to happen in the go-to-market strategy.

The consultants never did work on that side. Okay.

I think the next phase of work is how do we start doing some very fundamental choice making on which markets we'll play strongly in, which route to markets will play strongly in, and we are building capabilities on that. That I think will along with then obviously product and marketing investments will play out the game fully for us.

That I think is something which will play out over a period of a few quarters. I'll be very candid because that's the kind of work which we're going to do in some kind of a restructuring of our go-to-market strategy.

Aejas Lakhani

Understood. Sir, just finally, what is in the foods business, the branded 81% that you talk about, what's the cut between RGC and Yummiez?

Sunil Kataria

Just a second. Okay.

Just give me a second. I was just getting this up.

Okay. The cut is split for us in this 81%, it's around 28% is Yummiez and around 52-odd percent is RGC.

Aejas Lakhani

Got it. Sir, just because RGC is tad bit lower margins and Yummiez is the higher margin, could you call about how are you looking at the branded segment?

The thought I had that this Yummiez used to be in that 15, 20% range. You've of course, sort of moved it from that range to probably closer to 30%.

Can you give some more color on how you are seeing the scale-up of these two of the foods business?

Sunil Kataria

Again, I'm telling you while we'll give you a very detailed color later on, but let me tell you directionally what it is. I think we are very clear that in the foods businesses, there are two themes that we would like to chase.

One is, let's focus on this Godrej foods business the poultry business, we have already taken a call that live bird is not where we want to play. We are not going to be in a trading business.

It is just a back end right now which is supporting our Real Good Chicken piece as of now. Hence, we are meaningfully, sharply bringing it down.

Our entire double down is going to be on the branded retail business going forward, which is where the Yummiez piece plays in, and even the RGC retail piece is something which will play in forward. The whole game would be that we want to make it as a branded retail play.

What you're seeing from 15% has moved to 30% is where this number will keep on increasing over the next 5 years. The end-state game for us is that we want to be a pure-play branded retail organization in our foods businesses and have as less a play of trading stroke B2B businesses.

Aejas Lakhani

Understood, sir. Thank you and all the best.

Sunil Kataria

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you, sir. Ladies and gentlemen, to ask a question, please press star and one now.

Participants who wish to ask questions may please press star and one at this time. The next question is from the line of Ahmed Madha from Unifi Capital.

Please go ahead.

Ahmed Madha

Yeah. Thanks for the opportunity.

I have few questions, but to start with your comments on PKO prices. We've seen recently the copra prices and coconut oil price come off from peak about 20, 25%.

Have we seen similar trends for PKO in last few months?

Sunil Kataria

I would first ask Mr. Godrej to comment on this and then if required

Nadir Godrej

No, I haven't watched the most recent situation, but I would like to comment that coconut oil is still significantly above PK oil.

Sunil Kataria

Yeah. I would maybe take one more comment on this.

The answer is since we've been tracking this number, have we seen any drop happening in PKO prices? As of now, it's holding.

Ahmed Madha

Okay. Sure.

Your comments on the domestic crop protection business, this season being weak and ex of one product, we'll be doing fine. If you can give some comment overall as a blended what kind of growth we are seeing for the balance part of the season?

That's first question. Second question is in terms of building on the licensing portfolio, how is that shaping up?

Have we added any new products in last quarter?

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, the line for the management seems to have disconnected. Please hold while we reconnect them.

Ladies and gentlemen, the line for the management have been reconnected. Thank you and over to you, sir.

Got

Sunil Kataria

disconnected. Can you hear me?

Ahmed Madha

Sure.

Operator

Yes, sir.

Sunil Kataria

Okay. I think two questions here.

The first part is I think how does the whole quarter 4 look like? As I again said, that one-time impact of our co-marketing is going to stay.

This is maybe the last bump of the year that we hope which is coming our way. The new year will start pretty fresh, and I'll talk about how we will be gearing up for the new year.

I also said that the ex co-marketing piece, I think we're looking at a pretty healthy growth. Obviously, I think there'll be pretty healthy growth.

I don't want to disclose the exact number of what we are gunning for as a number internally. I think that part will be healthy, but yeah, there'll be an impact of this one co-marketing piece, which will play in.

In terms of the way we are working out on the CPB business, I think I would like to give you a bit of color. Again, maybe a insight into the way our strategic discussion meeting will play out later on.

One of the biggest pieces, as I again said, is that we want to move away from single points of dependence to multiple pillars of growth. In the journey on CPB business of our domestic, that journey has started playing out, where we have started diversifying ourselves beyond two products of let's say cotton herbicide segment and let's say another product of Gracia.

We actually have identified multiple critical and meaningful crop segments in the country, and we have identified and started building a pipeline of that, in which both in-house products and in-licensing products, both will play a role. Now, to give you an insight of what has happened in the last quarter, we have launched Ashitaka, which is our first foray into maize herbicide.

I'm pretty happy to share that even though I think we could have connected the season a little bit earlier, the response in the market we have launched that has been very, very positive. In fact, I think we have sold off whatever we placed in the market, and the off-takes itself have been pretty good.

That gives us a hell of a lot of confidence of how we keep on ramping up this product, Ashitaka, going forward in the coming year. That's one.

Secondly, I can also share right now that in coming month, this month itself, we'll make a second foray of diversification that we are going to launch a new product, which again is in-licensing product called Takai. That is a multi-crop insecticide segment, which again will be our first foray into a multi-crop insecticide product.

We again are very confident that is another diversification step that will give us a play into not only one crop, multi-crop, in which paddy is one of the big crops. We actually have been pretty missing in paddy per se.

If you see, these two itself are the two big forays which have happened in terms of diversifying out. Apart from that, in the coming year, you can expect from us two in-house products which would roll out in FY27, okay, and then these two in-licensing products will play into full scale-up.

That's here and now. Apart from that, there's a full-fledged strategy crop product metrics which is ready, and we'll share with you how the pipeline pan out in the balance 3, 4 years of the LRP period.

This is here and now what will happen in the next four 12 months. I hope I've given you a sense of what we're doing.

Ahmed Madha

Sure. Sure.

On the Astec business, you made comments about how the Q4 and FY26 looks like. I have two questions.

One is in terms of pricing pressure in the enterprise segment molecules, has that eased off? Are we seeing any price improvement or stability as of now?

Secondly, for FY27, how should we foresee the margins profile changing with the business achieving some scale?

Sunil Kataria

That's a question on Astec. Arijit and Burjis will pitch in on this.

Arijit Mukherjee

Two part of the answer. First, as far as agrochemical, the first portion will be to go back to the normal demand or the production.

What we are currently seeing is that the production of the demand of agrochemical has come back to 2019-20. That is a normal consumption norm.

Most of the pipeline stocked inventories have moved out of the major geographies. Some geographies will be there where there might be some one season stock, but that will not impact the overall consumption pattern.

Price pressure is there because of competition is there because of the overcapacity in China. That is also a little bit coming down.

It is more or less flattened out. Now we are playing evenly.

Within 1 or 2 years, we have also invested in terms of the process improvement and those things. That's why if you see in this quarter, you will find movement in terms of the volume as well as the margin also we are improving.

I think next season, as of now, the indication says the demand should be normal. That's why we are optimistic for the next coming season also.

Secondly, the same applies for the CDMO businesses also. Most of the demands are coming back which were in the earlier last 2 years were a little bit fluctuating.

Overall, it seems we are stabilizing out. Price pressures will be there for some season, but it is stabilizing.

It has almost bottomed out. Now we will see a little bit of improvement there.

Burjis Godrej

We are doing the best on our side to improve margins despite the price outlook through raw material price reduction, sourcing advantages, process improvement, yield improvement, all the R&D steps we can take. We are monitoring the situation in China carefully.

There are expected to be some announcements on change in the export tax benefits. We'll see how that plays out and what impact that has on our business.

Ahmed Madha

Sure. Lastly, on the poultry business, understand you have made a significant transition towards the branded business.

In terms of the pricing, the live bird prices, is the improvement across geographies or is it specific to few states? In terms of overall supply dynamics in the poultry business at the country level, would you like to give some comment how are you seeing overall poultry business supply dynamics?

Sunil Kataria

To be very honest, the second one I would not take a shot at it. I'll be honest because let me give you an overall poultry business point of view because strategically, it's a business which does not play out for us in the future.

It's a pretty large play with a lot of dynamics on the poultry side. We are focused on reducing that part of the business.

Our focus is clearly on being a branded retail player going forward. That's where the margins lie.

That is where the growth lies. In fact, the whole play to my mind in the poultry business is that India is a country which has a huge amount of demand right now and there's a huge amount of chunk of protein-led products requirement which is panning out.

There's a huge awareness which is playing out across pop strata where people are coming to realization that, hey, we need to maybe add a little bit more protein or definitely significantly more protein to our diets. The way we see our role being played if we want to play the branded retail is it is a clear category creation game that what better source of protein than chicken in this country, which is reasonably priced and which in a country which theoretically also kind of 70% of India eats non-veg.

Obviously, it varies from state to state. They're not 100% non-vegetarians, the mix of veg and non-veg, but there are 70-odd percent Indians who do have non-veg in their diet.

I think our play is to keep making sure that we become over a 5 years period this 30% keeps on increasing and we become a full-fledged branded retail player. I would not even hazard a guess on the overall piece of poultry play overall.

The question which you asked, was this live bird price increase uniform across regions? Yes, it was.

That I can tell you. Okay.

Sure.

Ahmed Madha

Lastly, you spoke about the value creation exercise. Can you give some context of what are we talking here about in terms of value creation?

What is the core objective we are trying to achieve? Is it sort of demerging the business into multiple segments or is it sort of making sure of capital allocation into different businesses?

Can you give some sense on that?

Sunil Kataria

Okay. I think again, as I said, we will have a very detailed conversation definitely.

Just it's a matter of maybe a month or so away. We will meet, and we definitely want to share with all of you as to how we think it is.

Clearly, in this portfolio choices, what are we doing? What do we want to make sure?

We have picked up certain criteria. The criteria is very clearly we want to play in markets which have attractiveness to it in each of segments.

We have gone and put together market attractiveness criteria on each and every business and within that, even some segments we have gone and checked. Then we are putting together on that actually a filter is what really is our right to win or play even in subsegments.

That is one piece which is going to lead us to say that, okay, where do we want to really go after. That will be the choices.

The businesses that we prioritize will obviously get a significantly larger and In fact, I would say focused share of capital allocation. There's no debate, and that's why we want to put together.

The criteria for us would be we would like to see how the growth are, whether it is a volume growth in some businesses, in some businesses it's revenue growth, because some of our businesses have more volume-led focus. The second piece will be we obviously, while we invest behind the growth, would like to keep filters of mid-term profitability and return on capital employed also in mind as filters.

I think that is the way we'll come back to you, but those are the pieces we are keeping in mind. Regarding whether there'll be a demerger, whether value unlock, I think those are pieces which are right now maybe a premature to call.

I think the first piece for us is that how are we going to choose portfolios and what we will do with them. Obviously, at some place, some structural calls would happen, but when and where, little maybe premature to talk about it.

Ahmed Madha

Sure. Thank you so much.

Operator

Thank you, sir. The next question is from the line of Abhijit Akella from KIE.

Please go ahead.

Abhijit Akella

Thank you for taking my follow-ups. Just on the animal feed segment, what's the reason for the very strong growth in cattle feed volumes this quarter, 21%?

Also, if you could please share the volume growth for the 9 months and how much of the animal feed volumes are actually coming from cattle feed at this point in time? I guess it's north of 50%, but if you could please just quantify that.

One last thing, also the presentation speaks to a change in product mix which has dragged on the margin. Is that referring to basically a swing in favor of cattle feed or something else?

Thank you.

Sunil Kataria

Overall cattle feed for 9 months volume growth is 16.5%. It's been a steady-state growth.

It's a very strong growth in this 9 months. Obviously, it peaked into a 20% growth, but if you see the 9-month number, it's still a very, very strong 16.5%.

Second is, what is driving this? I would classify this into two factors.

Some part obviously in our industry, there are always some external factors, but some very internal controllable. I think external, what one factor which is I would say maybe an advantageous factor playing out is that when the milk procurement prices are very good, the farmers tend to take advantage of by upgrading from unbranded to branded compound feed.

In fact, I almost see some parts of this business like any other consumer B2C business? That's the lens I'm looking at and putting it on this, and I want to see this business a little differently, is that that's same true we have seen happening in coconut oil, that we have seen in sappers, that the same thing we have seen happening in even soaps.

I think the same phenomenon pans out. When the milk prices are going up, the farmers see yields going up, they are willing to get more conversion into branded compound feed.

That's one. Second, the internal piece which are played out is that we have actually launched 3, 4 very differentiated products across state specifics.

There is a product called Doodh Vridhi, which has come in, which is focused towards the eastern part of the country. There's a product called Dhanlaxmi, which is doing pretty well in the western parts of India.

We have a product called Bypro Plus, which is gone into South, which is actually very conditioned and suited for the southern market requirements. There is a little definitely more focus coming in into state-wise, breed-wise focused products, and I think those products have done pretty well for us in the middle of this tailwind which has happened.

I think I would say there is definitely both a external, but also an internal thing at play. The salience of the cattle feed business for us is now in this quarter is around 54%, and 9 months is almost similar.

Around 54-odd percent on volume.

Abhijit Akella

Got it. The last thing was just the shift in product mix, does that refer to the swing in favor of cattle feed or is it something else we are alluding to?

Sunil Kataria

It's in favor of cattle feed. Let me give you maybe one more insight of going forward.

Again maybe a sneak preview into what we will be thinking is that we believe that within animal feed also, right, there are segments we want to really go after, right? I would say cattle feed is one that segment that we believe in India it has more of an ability to create brand.

It has an more of an ability to command premiumization if you get the right products. It is a market where we believe a large chunk of our strength lies.

Maybe you will see a bit of work more and more towards accelerating some of these shifts.

Abhijit Akella

The EBIT per ton on cattle feed, sir, how much would that be compared to the animal feed overall level of 2,000? Where exactly?

1,500 or lower than that?

Sunil Kataria

Sorry, what was the question? EBIT per ton.

I think we can take that offline. Because this is Abhijit, maybe a little bit of competitive information.

While we give overall, but yeah, it's obviously pretty healthy one, I would

Abhijit Akella

say. Sure.

No problem, sir. The other one I just had was on the crop protection side.

Margins obviously have been coming off there, but where do you see sort of sustainable margins in that business over the next year or so? Also within the domestic crop protection piece, could you please help us with the revenue salience of in-licensed and in-house?

How much do these two categories comprise?

Sunil Kataria

Okay. This in-licensing and in-house contribute to roughly around 60, 61% of our total business.

We expect that given the work that we're doing, it should be in that range of around 60, 65% odd in that ballpark we'll play. That's a pretty healthy close to two-thirds of our business, you can say.

That's one piece, and that's our direction we would like to keep on. The other question was, where do we see our margin going forward?

I think we had earlier also given a guidance of that we'll play it around anywhere between 28 to 30% margin. We know actually we are on the upper end of the industry on this.

One thing if you see, even in this quarter 3, our margins have been pretty healthy despite the shift of the businesses, which we had then tactically only towards more generic and speciality, which was a conscious tactical here and now quarter choice that we took and which we may again take a little bit in quarter 4. I think in the mid-term, we are pretty confident of holding on to the range of 28,

Abhijit Akella

30%. Thank you so much.

Just one last thing. On the oil palm business, what percentage of segment EBIT comes from value-added products, and where do you see that heading as your new capex projects sort of come online?

Sunil Kataria

Okay. Where I see headed, that number I'll have to kind of calculate.

I don't have that ready. We can share that separately with you.

Where it is today, we have moved into around 8% now in quarter 3 for us. Yes, my intent obviously when this refinery is coming to play is this is a number which will actually start galloping rapidly.

Got it.

Abhijit Akella

Thank you so much, sir. Wish you all the best.

Operator

Thank you, sir. The next question is from the line of Siddharth Nehgandhi from Chanakya Wealth Creation.

Please go ahead.

Sunil Kataria

Hey, hi, Sunil. Hi, Sid.

Siddharth Menghani

Hi, Sunil. How are you?

Sunil Kataria

Good to have you on the other side. Yes.

Sunil, just wanted to get some sense on the dairy business. One sees that there have been challenges on the milk procurement.

Would you attribute this to the competitive intensity increasing in terms of more dairies coming up or is it more a structural deceleration in output at the industry level? That's the first one.

Given the likelihood of El Niño and warm weather sort of playing out in the quarters to come, what is your outlook on milk procurement for the next year? Sid, I think milk procurement piece let me tell you.

I think there's some structural changes which the team had done in the last couple of years that we have moved to almost 85% of our procurement being direct farm procurement. That is one big shift which has happened.

Today we do almost 85 to almost close to 90% of procurement is directly in our controls. I think there's a very strong network which has got created in the states of Maharashtra, specifically AP, Telangana, and then some parts of Tamil Nadu, where I think we are very confident that given our growth ambitions and given our aspirations, that should not be a constraint for us.

That is one piece. The second part is the question is whether this inflation of milk that we saw, whether it has got to do with more number of dairies or something else.

While this is a piece a lot of us have been debating about, what our understanding is largely it is driven more by butter prices across the globe. What we have seen is that there has been a pretty large export of butter which is happening from India because of higher demand in global markets.

It could be linked to some pieces which are playing out towards maybe Australia, New Zealand, some pieces, and obviously we're not able to put exact finger, but clearly India has seen a sharp export of butter. That butter prices have led to milk inflation.

We are expecting this to maybe continue maybe for this quarter and then hopefully it should start stabilizing.

Siddharth Menghani

Got it. Sunil, your outlook on milk procurement given the likelihood or the probability of El Niño next year?

Sunil Kataria

As I said, given our network and given our requirement and aspirations, as for us, we don't see any challenge of procurement for ourselves.

Siddharth Menghani

Helpful. Thanks so much, Sunil.

That was helpful. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you, sir. The next question is from the line of Sarvan Vora from Premji Invest.

Please go ahead.

Sarvan Vora

Hi. Thanks for the opportunity.

Many congratulations to the team at Astec LifeSciences. After about 10 quarters of losses, we've turned around, barring 4Q, which is a seasonally strong quarter.

Many congratulations. Finally, it seems we are out of the

Arijit Mukherjee

Great job for the team. Yes.

Sarvan Vora

Yeah. Thank you.

Just firstly on Astec. Sunil, you reiterated the EBITDA break-even guidance for FY26.

On top line, our guidance was about ₹5 billion in turnover. Broadly around that?

Arijit Mukherjee

Broadly around that

Sunil Kataria

only. Okay.

I would say if we are looking at something maybe will be a little short of maybe that, but in ballpark range. We'll still hold the guidance on EBITDA break-even.

Sarvan Vora

Got it. Just on FY27, Mr.

Burjis mentioned we're targeting about 15% growth. That sounded a little underwhelming to me because on a larger base of ₹650-odd crore, we used to guide for 25, 30% top-line growth.

Are there any concerns that we see for FY27 which keeps our guidance a little bit tepid?

Sunil Kataria

Let me tell you, Sarvan. I think, honestly, this is the first-cut guidance which Burjis has given and we put him on the table for you.

We are still in the middle of our annual operating exercises, and that normally happens in the period of February and we close it towards March. Our aspirations obviously would be higher, but it's very premature to kind of give it because we're just in the middle of it.

I think that is something we could put together as a base case for ourselves.

Arijit Mukherjee

We'll be doing detailed planning to understand the price outlook for next year and the volume increases that we can manufacture and sell so then we can give better guidance going forward. This is just a first look.

Sunil Kataria

Yeah.

Sarvan Vora

Got it. Just finally on Godrej Agrovet, could you just highlight the drivers for the foods business for the next 2, 3 years, what kind of growth we see, what would be our focus areas, and margin expansion trajectory?

Sunil Kataria

This is our entire strategy presentation.

Sarvan Vora

Whatever color you can give how you thinking.

Sunil Kataria

Yeah. I'll give you a color of how we're thinking because finally, we'll answer all these questions.

We are in the middle of pretty much taking calls on some of these questions, and we have made very advanced progress on this. We're not in infant stage, as I said.

Let me tell you broad colors. I think themes are very clear to us that we want to definitely make foods a meaningful play for our group.

That's I think one point of view that we have. Secondly, we clearly want to take our journey towards value-added branded play, which is what you're seeing whether it's in Yummiez or whether it'll be in dairy business.

That's the second theme that we want to play. We also see some of the work that we will have to do to make that happen is that there's a large work that we will do towards go-to-market investments, go-to-market execution focus, because that matters a lot in all these businesses.

There will be a play of definitely building products which will be differentiated and then backing them up. Hence, we will look at food innovation and food NPDs in a pretty big way.

The last is, we believe that we also need to invest in certain capabilities in these businesses in these areas, and that's the piece we have started doing. Maybe one thing I can tell you is that we have, for example, both our foods businesses new members from very, very strong pedigree who are now holding positions in marketing and sales both.

That switches have happened already. We already have a very robust team in place on the back end in both the businesses.

I think these are the themes which are playing out as a color you're saying. Yes, this will be a journey which will play out over 3, 4, 5 years, I would say, but we will play this journey and we hope that we will be able to succeed in this, and pretty confident

Sarvan Vora

like that. Just lastly on any update you can share on the pet food business?

Thank you so much for the opportunity, and many congratulations to both the teams for a stellar performance.

Sunil Kataria

Thank you. Thanks so much.

The pet food business is that we have put up the plant for the pet food business of the group, and that plant is ready to get commissioned in a matter of a month or so from now.

Sarvan Vora

Got it. Thank you.

Best wishes.

Operator

Thank you, sir. The next question is from the line of Sumant Kumar from Motilal Oswal.

Please go ahead.

Sumant Kumar

Hi. Can you talk on Astec CDMO business, how it is growing and how is the outlook for the segment?

Sunil Kataria

Yep. Arijit?

Arijit Mukherjee

Yeah. CDMO business I will like to explain it in two ways, right?

One is what is our involvement in R&D, because if you see from March onwards, we have almost double the number of enquiries we are getting. One hand is the future looks to be a little bit again China-plus-one is slowly coming into being because the number of enquiries have started coming both from the Western world as well as Japan.

Secondly, the CDMOs which we are currently doing, most of the volumes have come back to the original one and few volumes are growing. Overall, it seems CDMO to be back on track in terms of pre-COVID time also in terms of demand and those things and coming back.

It being a price-plus model, margin-wise also it is intact. That way, we see our relatively next 2, 3 years will be a good for us for CDMO growth.

Hello?

Operator

Yes, sir.

Sumant Kumar

Yeah. What about core business triazole chemistry business where we have a losses and higher volatility, how that segment is performing, and what are the key changes we have in the molecule side and new product side?

Arijit Mukherjee

For triazole businesses, the main worry if you remember was the say inventory in in inventory there. Inventories have moved out, more or less the demand is back.

In the process of being more competitive, we have also got involved in terms of the process improvement, better supply chain management. That is that has improved our margin.

Secondly, strategically, we have shifted our registration from being source registered, now we have got our own registrations. Most of the geographies like Europe and Latin America, we have started getting registration.

Europe also we have got registration for three growing triazoles, and in Brazil, we have got two registrations. There will be another three which are in pipeline for next year next year.

I think next 1 and 1/2 years, we will get those registrations. Overall, we seem to be back to normal in terms of the triazoles both in terms of margin as well as the volume part.

We'll be adding few more chemistries this year. There will be two more new molecules which will be coming up.

At least this quarter, we'll be adding two more triazoles. Overall, the portfolio is increasing also.

After a long back, we have added up new molecules in triazole.

Sunil Kataria

If you see that whole theme of diversification that we are talking of, in a way that is playing out for even this business in triazole side as well, so that we also de-risk ourselves and we in fact in a way we expand our addressable market.

Sumant Kumar

Still we have a bare minimum profit or loss in the triazole business?

Arijit Mukherjee

No, now we are back to the normal margin. So, 2019-20, we take as a base year where the margins were normal, we are mostly coming back to that normal margins.

Sumant Kumar

Which is going to come in Q4 because Q3 has a bare minimum profit.

Arijit Mukherjee

In terms of the contribution margin, Q4 will be better off because this is the export market which opens up.

Sumant Kumar

Okay. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you, sir. Ladies and gentlemen, in the interest of time, that was the last question for today.

I would now like to hand the conference over to Mr. Godrej for closing comments.

Nadir Godrej

Thank you. I hope we have been able to answer all your questions.

If you have any further questions or would like to know more about the company, we would be happy to be of assistance. Thank you once again for taking the time to join us on this call.

Operator

Thank you, sir. On behalf of Equirus Securities Private Limited, that concludes this conference call.

Thank you for joining us and you may now disconnect your lines.