Operator
03ef90f1df3f/audio.mp3} Operator: Ladies and gentlemen, good day, and welcome to the Solar Industries Q4 FY26 earnings call hosted by Motilal Oswal Financial Services. As a reminder, all participant lines will be in the listen-only mode, and there will be an opportunity for you to ask questions after the presentation concludes.
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I now hand the conference over to Miss Teena Virmani from Motilal Oswal Financial Services. Thank you, and over to you, ma'am.
Teena Virmani
Thanks. Good evening, everyone.
On behalf of Motilal Oswal Financial Services, we thank the management of Solar Industries to give us an opportunity to host the call. From the management team, we have Mr.
Manish Nuwal, Managing Director and CEO; Mr. Suresh Menon, Executive Director; Mr.
Milind Deshmukh, Executive Director; Mr. Moneesh Agrawal, Joint CFO; and Mrs.
Shalinee Mandhana, Joint CFO. Over to you, Mr.
Manish, for your opening remarks, and after that, we will open the floor for Q&A.
Shalinee Mandhana
Thank you, Teena. A very good evening to all our dear stakeholders and well-wishers.
My name is Shalinee, and welcome you all to Solar Industries' fourth quarter and yearly conference call of FY26. This call's recording, including the transcript, will be available on the site.
The financial statements, quarterly fact sheet, investor presentation, and press releases are all available on the website. To begin with, I'd like to remind you all that during this call, we might make projections or other forward-looking statements regarding future events and about the future financial performance.
Please remember that such statements are only predictions. Actual events or results may differ materially, and our website will be updated with all the relevant information from time to time.
Now, I would request Solar MD and CEO, Mr. Manish Nuwal, for his opening remarks on the company's performance, followed by Q&A session.
Over to you, sir.
Manish Nuwal
Dear esteemed investors, a very good evening. I, Manish Nuwal, Managing Director and CEO, welcomes you all to Solar Industries India Limited's earning call for the fourth quarter and financial year ended 31st March 2026.
We are happy to report that our company has delivered landmark performance, clocking its highest-ever quarterly and annual sales of ₹3,053 crores and ₹9,838 crores, respectively, despite no growth in domestic mining markets. We have also achieved the highest-ever quarterly EBITDA and PAT at ₹870 crores and ₹556 crores, registering a growth of 59% and 61% year-on-year, and highest-ever quarterly EBITDA and PAT at ₹2,750 crores and ₹1,737 crores, registering a growth of 35% each in the year FY26.
We achieved our EBITDA margins at around 28.5% for this quarter and 27.95% for the whole year. These numbers were propelled by strong sales from international and defense business, relentless focus on our high-value-chain products, and operational efficiency.
Dear investors, our defense business has nearly doubled, delivering outstanding growth with revenue surging 134% in Q4 and 94% for the full year to reach a record high of ₹1,008 crores and ₹2,634 crores, respectively. Robust sales pipeline coupled with strong execution capabilities position us well to sustain this momentum, and we should cross defense revenue of ₹4,500 crores in FY27.
Solar's international business has performed very well, and as a result, we registered a growth of 32% year-on-year. Solar's ability in establishing strong relationship with its customers as a trusted partner underscores company's strength in identifying and capitalizing the global opportunities.
Our recent expansions into northern and western parts of India, paired with upcoming plants in the east and south India as well, will definitely help us to strengthen our domestic footprints. This expected growth in domestic market is further complemented by our strong momentum in international business.
Additionally, the defense vertical is steadily maturing into a powerful standalone platform, driving deep tech innovations, enabling significant future growth potentials. In FY26, we have delivered 30% revenue growth and surpassed our annual EBITDA guidance.
This performance reinforces our confidence in the scalability of our business. Backed up by a strong order book of ₹21,300 crores and robust opportunities across all verticals, we are targeting to achieve a revenue of ₹14,000 crores in FY27 while maintaining current margins.
To support these growth plans, the company has invested ₹2,700 crores over last two years and entering into FY27 with a planned annual capex of ₹2,050 crores. The company has proposed a dividend of ₹11 per share for FY26-27, up from ₹10 per share in the previous year, reflecting confidence in its financial health and commitment to the shareholders.
I sincerely thank all our esteemed investors and analysts for joining us today. Thank you for your continued trust and partnership.
Now, I will hand over the system to Ms. Shalinee Mandhana for presenting the financials in detail.
Shalinee Mandhana
Thank you, sir. Coming to the results, we have shared the investor presentation carrying all the necessary information for your kind perusal.
Key highlights for quarter four and for year FY26 are as: Sales: The consolidated revenue for the quarter is ₹3,053 crores versus ₹2,167 crores, and for the year, it is ₹9,838 crores versus ₹7,540 crores. The percentages of the sector in the customer basket are as follows: CIL is down in the basket to 9% from 13%.
Non-CIL and Institutional is at 10% from 14%. Housing and Infra is at 15% from 16% in the basket.
International business is at 33% from 36%. Defense has massively increased to 33% from 20% and have crossed the four-figure mark reaching 1,008 crores during the quarter, and in terms of percentage, it is up 134% year-on-year basis.
In the year, the CIL in the basket is down to 9% from 13%. Non-CIL and Institutional is at 12% from 15%.
Housing and Infra is at 12% from 15% in the basket. International business is almost similar at 39% from 38%.
Defense increased magnificently to 27% from 18%, and in number terms, it has almost doubled to ₹2,634 crores from ₹1,355 crores, and up by 94%. Raw materials: Raw material consumption for the quarter stands at ₹1,522 crores versus ₹1,178 crores, and at the year, it stands at ₹4,894 crores versus ₹3,979 crores.
The employee cost for the quarter stands at ₹253 crores versus ₹174 crores, and for the year, it stands at ₹845 crores versus ₹600 crores. The other expense for the quarter stands at ₹453 crores versus ₹275 crores, and for the year, stands at ₹1,477 crores versus ₹1,001 crores.
EBITDA: We reported highest EBITDA numbers for the quarter at ₹870 crores versus ₹546 crores, and for the year, the highest EBITDA stands at ₹2,750 crores versus ₹2,031 crores. The interest and finance cost stands at ₹41 crores versus ₹29 crores, and for the year, it stands at ₹134 crores versus ₹117 crores.
Depreciation cost stands at ₹71 crores versus ₹50 crores for the quarter, and for the year, it stands at ₹251 crores versus ₹182 crores. Profit before tax stands at ₹759 crores versus ₹464 crores, and for the year, it is at ₹2,365 crores versus ₹1,739 crores.
The highest-ever quarterly PAT stands at ₹556 crores versus ₹346 crores, and for the year, it stands at ₹1,737 crores versus ₹1,288 crores. These were the updates for the quarter and the year.
This is all from our side, and now we would be happy to take any questions, comments, or suggestions that you may have. Over to you, Teena.
Teena Virmani
We can now open the floor for Q&A.
Operator
Thank you. We will now begin the question-and-answer session.
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Participants are requested to use handsets while asking a question. Ladies and gentlemen, we will wait for a moment while the question queue assembles.
Our first question comes from the line of Amit Dixit with Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.
Amit Dixit
Hi. Good evening, everyone, and congratulations for a very robust set of numbers and indeed a very strong guidance.
I have a couple of questions. The first one is on international business.
Now if you look at international business, the growth has been very good this year. Just wanted to get a sense on the new geographies like Zimbabwe that we entered this year and what are the other key geographies we might be thinking?
Also, what all geographies are we expecting more traction in this year, FY27? That is my first question, sir.
Manish Nuwal
Thank you, Amit. You are very right that international business is doing quite good.
Like I said, in this year, the international business has grown by 32%. In the next year, which is FY27, we are expecting apart from defense, domestic and international both should do very good.
As far as new territories are concerned, mainly we are focusing on African continent, and that's the market where we are expanding every year. Like I have explained in my previous calls, we have created South Africa as one of the hubs for our future expansions.
We have already set up the facilities apart from South Africa in Zambia, Tanzania, and we have also started Zimbabwe facility. In the West Africa, we have a Nigeria as a base, and from there, we have started our operations in Ghana, and in this year, we are expecting to start operations in Sierra Leone.
In Turkey, we have a strong base, and we have started Kazakhstan plant. Similarly, we are trying to expand in all those markets which helps us to utilize the facilities which we have set up in these major markets.
As far as Southeast Asia is concerned, we have a small facility at Thailand and Indonesia. Australia is also going to start very soon.
Amit Dixit
Great, sir. Very clear.
The second question is essentially on defense. Now defense guidance is very, very robust after a very good quarter.
Now a couple of clarifications or a little bit more color that I would request from you in this regard. Sir, one is about Bhargavastra.
The counter-drone systems have been in flavor for some time now. Just wanted to get an understanding where we are on that front, if any tests are pending, and when can we expect the order?
Similarly, the progress on 155mm shells, where we are with respect to tests and other necessary certifications?
Manish Nuwal
Normally, we would like to avoid all such product-specific questions due to variety of reasons. Bhargavastra is a strategic item for us, and we are developing this product from last couple of years.
This product will be one of the very few companies in the world who will be developing such kind of system. The product development is in a final stage.
Still, such kind of product development takes longer time than what we expect. Definitely, we should be able to complete all the trials in this calendar year.
This is the status of Bhargavastra. As far as 155mm products are concerned, we have already started supplying all the raw material, intermediates going into this product.
Our populating facility, which will help us to produce the complete 155mm product, we should be able to finish in next couple of quarters. Definitely, it will take another three to four months time, then we will start supplying the complete round of 155mm.
Amit Dixit
Very comforting, sir. Thank you so much, and all the best.
Manish Nuwal
Thank you.
Operator
The next question comes from the line of Umesh Raut with Nomura India. Please go ahead.
Umesh Raut
Hello, sir. Good evening, and congratulations for very good set of numbers.
Sir, my first question is pertaining to our exports business. If I look at our historical trajectory, I think we have seen stronger growth in between FY19 to 23 when our business actually grew by almost 3.5x in terms of top line.
Then we had almost more of flattish growth between '23 to '25. Again, I think it looks like with 32% kind of a growth in '26, growth is looking very stronger on the export side.
I just want to understand how big this opportunity is probably two, three years down the line. Again, can we expect closer to 2, 3x kind of jump in terms of top line for our export business?
To achieve these kind of growth opportunities, what kind of investment that we can expect from you in terms of medium term, both on capacity expansion as well as on client traction side?
Manish Nuwal
Thank you very much. You are right that if you look at 2015 number, export and overseas was around ₹400 crores, and that has reached to almost ₹800 crores.
There, we hover around for almost three to four years, right from 2021 to almost 2018 till '21, we were in that range of ₹800 crores. After that, it started picking up.
The point was that during that period, we were setting up the greenfield facilities, qualifying ourselves into the overall mining procurement system. That was the key period.
After that, the sales from our exports and overseas has started picking up, specially from 2022. That was the year when it has reached to ₹1,400 crores, and now it has crossed almost ₹3,800 crores.
Next year also, we are expecting a growth of around 30%. We believe that there are plenty of opportunities for us in the international market, but it will be for us to give any trajectory, specifically in numbers of how much multiple we can grow, how much times we can grow from this base.
I feel that since international markets are growing at 2% to 3%, but we expect that the volume terms we should be able to grow comfortably at around 10%, and in value terms, we should do at around 15%. This year, definitely because of the rise in commodity prices will help us to have more top line.
That's why we are bullish, and for the next year, we are expecting a growth of around 30%.
Umesh Raut
Got it, sir. Sir, just one clarification.
If you can give us some understanding about market share that you have in key markets in export region?
Manish Nuwal
As of now, we don't have that kind of visibility.
Umesh Raut
Okay. Okay.
Sir, my second question is if I exclude your target growth on exports and defense side, domestic looks like is expected to see about 35% kind of growth for '27, which is more of a implied growth from your guidance. Is it on the account of purely low base where '26 was also impacted here from the monsoon, and apart from that, probably higher traction on infra and coal volume side that you are expecting in '27?
Manish Nuwal
Yeah. For the next year, like what we have mentioned that we are targeting ₹14,000 crore revenue, and if you take the defense out of that total number, then it is around ₹9,500.
Like I said, domestic and international combined together, we should be able to grow plus 30%. Out of this 30, 32% or 33% growth, we expect that 10% to 15% should come from volume growth, and around 20%, 18% to 20% should come from the price rise.
That is mainly because of the impact of the higher crude or gas prices on the upstream products or downstream lines. As far as the demand for domestic market is concerned, last year, it was a totally flat growth market, or you can say the OB removal in Coal India, Singareni, and private coal mines combined together was on a negative side.
Despite of that, we managed a decent growth of around 2% in value terms. This year, we expect that because of the pressure in the market where people would like to shift from the diesel, petrol, or generated products to the electricity-based products, so that will definitely help the growth in the coal mining sector.
Since last year was the bottom-out kind of situation for OB removal section, this year, we expect the demand should pick up.
Umesh Raut
Understood. Understood.
Sir, my last question on the competition side. We are hearing about probable entry of Kalyani Group into explosive business.
Any kind of thought process here? Do you see incremental competition because of this?
Especially if you look at, I think, defense, because they were already present in this business in form of guns and missiles, probably. Any kind of color over here in terms of competitive intensity, if you are seeing increasing in the domestic market?
Manish Nuwal
The first point is definitely I would not like to comment on the competition side or competitor, but it's a matter of fact that Solar Solar has risen its base from 1996 where it was a small player in the whole explosive market, and we have compete with the world number one, number two in the markets, and we have increased our presence. From competition side, we are not afraid from anyone.
Market opportunities are immense where everybody will have its own pie. We cannot say that we will have a 100% market share, and that is not our target also.
The way we are expanding, it is not the only product which we are working into. We are not a hardware company also.
We are developing energetic products. We are expanding our technology footprints and going to offer many advanced technology solution for the border security.
Umesh Raut
Understood, sir. Thank you.
Thank you so much for these answers, and all the very best.
Manish Nuwal
Thank you.
Operator
The next question comes from the line of Vikash Singh from ICICI Securities. Please go ahead.
Vikash Singh
Good evening, sir. Thank you for the opportunity, and congratulation on a very good set of number despite challenges.
Sir, my first question pertains to since our defense mix is improving in the overall sales, while we are still giving the margin guidance kind of a intact versus last year, is it some of the item where the cost inflation pass-on would be difficult and that's why overall margin are same, or we traditionally doing our conservative estimate at this point of time?
Manish Nuwal
As far as EBITDA margins are concerned, you are aware that prices of all the commodities has gone up, and definitely passing on the same increase sometime is difficult. We have increased the prices, and there are rise-and-fall calculations already in place in our contracts.
That will take care of the actual price rise. If you look into the overall EBITDA margin, definitely there will be some little bit impact.
Since our defense is picking up, international is also doing very good, we should be able to maintain the current EBITDA margins.
Vikash Singh
Noted, sir. Sir, my second question pertains to the domestic explosive market.
Obviously, we have added a lot of capacities and eyeing a market share gain. Is it basically through the new products, because segments remains the same or the user industries are limited in a way and none of them are growing at 10% or 12%?
Just wanted to understand this market share gain strategy, how we are actually targeting that?
Manish Nuwal
It is not a straightaway market gaining strategy. Over last say 10, 12 years, we were expanding our facilities at our core plant, which is at Nagpur, which makes packaged explosives and initiating systems.
As we have become a global player, capacity utilization level has gone up. At the same time, if you look into the logistic cost which comes on the explosives, it is a wise step for us to expand outside Nagpur.
That's why we have acquired a company in northern part of India. At the same time, we have just almost finished the mega expansion in western part of India.
Similarly, we are going to expand our base in Orissa and Telangana markets, Andhra Pradesh. This is a key reason.
Second is, as you are near to the customer, definitely gaining or servicing the customer is always better, and that helps us to grow or grab the market growth in those markets. That's the key point.
Vikash Singh
Noted, sir. Sir, just one last question.
In terms of this quarter, had we had any inventory gains in our overall numbers or it's the natural kind of the margin which we were expecting?
Manish Nuwal
Definitely, whenever prices goes up, we have inventories, like in this quarter, our inventory was more than what we normally carry due to variety of reasons. Definitely, we will have an inventory gain in the coming quarters.
At the same time, this is very normal for our kind of industry. Since price goes up by, say example, $200, but you will get only the price escalation based only for, say, 60% of the total increase.
That will take care of only the price increase. There are certain contracts where we can pass on after a quarter.
Those kind of situation, we can easily absorb with having such kind of inventory level. Definitely, we are in a very good position to absorb these kind of shocks.
Vikash Singh
Noted, sir. Sir, next year capex, if we can split between defense versus non-defense explosives, that ₹2,000-crore-plus capex?
Manish Nuwal
Like we always say that for us, our business is one. Next year, we are going to invest around ₹2,050 crores.
We always channelize the capex programs based on the priority and the market opportunity available to us.
Vikash Singh
Noted, sir. Thank you, and all the best for future, sir.
Manish Nuwal
Thank you.
Operator
Thank you. The next question comes from the line of Dipen Vakil with PhillipCapital.
Please go ahead.
Dipen Vakil
Thank you for this opportunity, and congratulations on a great execution. Sir, my first question is, sir, can you help us with the order book breakup between defense and non-defense for the ₹21,300 crore order book?
What are the major orders which we can expect in near future, any highlight on that? Yeah.
Manish Nuwal
Out of the total ₹21,000 crores of order book, defense is around ₹18,000 crores, and non-defense is around ₹3,000 crores. Out of this total defense ₹18,000 crores order book, mainly the biggest order was from Pinaka, and rest all are small, small raw material and intermediate goods for the Indian markets.
We have also received plenty of orders from the international markets. As far as new orders are coming, yes, we are in a final stages of receiving orders for the similar products.
We are also expecting orders from Pinaka series of products. That is in the discussion stage.
We are in negotiation, but that takes time.
Dipen Vakil
Got it, sir. Sir, my second question is I want to understand the new product and development which are happening at Solar.
Can you help us understand which are the new products which are on the advanced stages of finalization in terms of development and can come into your product portfolio soon, and which are in the early stages?
Manish Nuwal
Like I said, it is not wise on our part to share the program-wise progress and status. Definitely, the products on which we are working very closely and which are in the final stages, one of them is Bhargavastra, which is a counter-drone product.
There are multiple options within the loitering ammunition. Those are also in the pipeline.
Apart from these two, like I said, 155mm complete round of ammunition, that is also in a last stage of complete trials. Like I said, we have already started making the propellants for these products, which is large-caliber ammunitions.
Now we are going to make a complete round and supply for the qualification. These are the key products.
Apart from many others which are in the design and development parts, and that is not good on us to explain the exact status for each product. Since DRDO is developing many of the products and we are also partner to those programs, but these program takes time, and we will definitely share the progress on key milestones.
Dipen Vakil
Got it, sir. Sir, last small follow-up.
Sir, you had medium-caliber ammunition facility you had recently commissioned. Is it operational now or we are still awaiting some certification or something?
Can you share an update on that?
Manish Nuwal
That is already commissioned, and we are starting supplying the products for qualification. Once we qualify, we will definitely receive orders for those products.
Dipen Vakil
Got it, sir. That's all from my side.
Thank you so much, and all the very best for FY27, sir.
Manish Nuwal
Thank you.
Operator
The next question comes from the line of Bharat Shah with ASK Investment Managers. Please go ahead.
Bharat Shah
Hi, Manish. Hearty, hearty congratulations.
Once again, really standard-defining performance. Hearty congratulations to you and the team.
Manish Nuwal
Thank you very much, sir.
Bharat Shah
Pleasure. Over the dozen-odd years that I've known you in a very quiet and unassuming way from virtually a limited product and limited geography, we have built a business which is multi-sector, multi-geography, multi-products, and made it brick by brick a very resilient and strong business.
Great credit to the way the business has been built over a period of time. I remember 10 years back when defense business seeds were being laid and there was nothing on horizon, and how painstakingly efforts have been put to build the business where it is today.
Clearly, kudos to you and the entire Solar team. Just one, two questions.
Last year, if we see the financial year '25-26, working capital sucked away almost about ₹1,600 crores. In the year prior to that, working capital actually released about ₹800 crores.
From the cash flow, operational cash flow, almost a swing of ₹2,400 crores has been sucked away from the operational cash flow in the '25-26. Any comments on that?
Manish Nuwal
Thank you very much, Bharatbhai, for your kind appreciation. Definitely, in fact, it's a responsibility of every citizen and every company to work towards our national security and contribute for the country's prosperity and progress.
Thank you very much, sir. As far as your working capital question, Shalinee will respond to that.
Just a minute, sir.
Shalinee Mandhana
Hello. Good evening, sir.
Bharat Shah
Good evening.
Shalinee Mandhana
Yes, yes. Sir, the working capital days had been in this year, it had been hovering around 90 to 100 days till quarter three.
In quarter four, we working capital days have been increased primarily due to higher inventory levels. They were mainly done to build them and mitigate the risk arising from geopolitical uncertainties.
To address the uncertainties and maintaining supply chain continuity, it has been critical. As Manishji had answered in the last calls, obviously, these inventory levels will help us going forward so as to, it shouldn't disturb the revenues going ahead as well as the same will help in generating the margins.
As for Other
Bharat Shah
Yeah. Sorry, please go ahead.
Shalinee Mandhana
As the geopolitical situations stabilize, we anticipate normalization in the working capital limits over time, maybe in next two quarters.
Bharat Shah
Sure. This was a deliberate and strategic decision.
It is not accidental.
Shalinee Mandhana
Yes, sir. Correct.
Bharat Shah
Right. Right.
Second, if I see contribution of subsidiaries to the consolidated bottom line, I'm a bit intrigued by that. If you see our consolidated earnings for last year has been about ₹185, compared to ₹134 last year, year '25, of which subsidiaries have contributed ₹50 in the current year compared to ₹45 in the year preceding.
Subsidiaries have barely added to the consolidated bottom line, which considering our international presence, I'm a bit surprised that how subsidiaries have made relatively more muted contribution. Of course, in the fourth quarter, it is dramatically improved where ₹11 had come contribution of subsidiaries to the fourth quarter results last year, which has shot up to ₹19 in the current year.
Year in entirety, ₹45 earnings to ₹50 earnings of the subsidiaries, I was a bit surprised by that.
Manish Nuwal
Sir, in the first half of this year, our Solar Defense is a subsidiary of Solar Industries, and our international business are all subsidiaries. If you look at the total results, definitely in the first six months, the results from the defense section as well as the international, as far as margins are concerned, were subdued.
It started improving from Q3, and in Q4, those have started giving very good results. That's the key factor.
Now onwards, we believe that the subsidiary levels, whether it is in India or overseas, all will start delivering very good performance. That's why, despite of a very high base of raw material prices which we are expecting in the coming financial year, we are pretty confident that we should be able to achieve the current levels of EBITDA margins.
If you look at the three, four years back period when the raw material prices has increased by 50%, 60%, 70%, at those times, our EBITDA margins went down by around 2% to 3%. This time, we are confident that we should be able to manage this situation with the help of improved defense as well as international business.
Bharat Shah
Sure. No, understood.
Which means basically volatile currencies and volatile geographies must have taken away some part of the earnings, I suppose, in the last year, and that you expect it to be reversed, right?
Manish Nuwal
Absolutely, sir. That is the situation in all these markets.
Sometime there is a lack of payments, sometime we have to buy at a higher price. Frankly speaking, all such kind of uncertainties, and if you handle it well, converts into an opportunity.
We like all these things. In nutshell, sir, overall as a business, if you are able to achieve around 27%, 28% of EBITDA margin despite of all the current crisis, it's all because of the efforts which we have taken on all the fronts.
No,
Bharat Shah
absolutely. The record is there to show it fully what you are saying.
Remarkable, remarkable one, and once again hearty congratulations.
Manish Nuwal
Thank you, sir.
Operator
The next question comes from the line of Sanjeev Zarbade with Antique Stock Broking. Please go ahead.
Sanjeev Zarbade
Sir, thanks for taking my question. Sir, our exports business has remained largely flattish on a sequential basis.
Are you seeing any headwinds on account of the developments in the West Asia regarding freight and logistics and would it impact similar growth in Q1?
Manish Nuwal
In the Q4, the revenue from international is around 1,000, and last quarter also, it was in a similar range. We expect improved performance even more than these levels in the coming quarters.
Sanjeev Zarbade
Sir, my second question was regarding the impact of the commodity prices. Of course, we have taken some price increases.
I think from our past interaction, I think the benefit of price increase comes with a lag. Is it possible that we might see some impact on margins in Q1 and then maybe in Q2, there could be some recoup of the margins?
Manish Nuwal
We run business as a whole, and we don't wish on shorter to quarter basis. What guidance we have given, we are pretty optimistic that we should be able to achieve that.
Sanjeev Zarbade
Sir, thirdly, because of the increase in prices of ammonium nitrate, would there be any demand impact in the sense that buyers might wait for some time to prices to cool off and then start buying?
Manish Nuwal
It is too early to comment on this because the impact of very high prices of commodities killing the demand, we need to wait for some more time to get the clarity and the response of the people who are going to consume these products. By and large, we do feel that there can be a demand contraction for some couple of months, but by and large, on annual basis, I don't see that.
Sanjeev Zarbade
Sir. Thanks, and congratulations on great set of numbers.
Manish Nuwal
Thank you.
Operator
Ladies and gentlemen, that was the last question for today. I would now like to hand the conference over to the management for the closing remarks.
Shalinee Mandhana
Hello. We thank Motilal and chorus call for the call and all the investors' fraternity for taking the call.
Thank you.
Operator
Thank you, ma'am. Ladies and gentlemen, on behalf of Motilal Oswal Financial Services Limited, that concludes this conference call.
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