Welspun Living Limited

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Q4 FY2026 · Earnings Call TranscriptMay 15, 2026

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, good day, and welcome to the Welspun Living 4Q FY '26 Post Result Earnings Conference Call hosted by 360 ONE Capital Markets. As a reminder, all participant lines will be in the listen-only mode, and there will be an opportunity for you to ask questions after the presentation concludes.

Should you need assistance during this conference, please signal an operator by pressing star, then zero on your touchtone phone. Please note that this conference is being recorded.

I now hand the conference over to Ms. Aradhana Jain from 360 ONE Capital.

Thank you, and over to you, ma'am.

Aradhana Jain

Thank you, Darwin. Good afternoon, everyone.

On behalf of 360 ONE Capital Markets, I welcome all participants and the management of Welspun Living to the 4Q FY '26 con-call. Without much ado, I'll hand over the call to Ms.

Bharti Agarwal, Head Investor Relations, Welspun Living, to introduce the management. Over to you, Bharti.

Bharti Agarwal

Thank you, Aradhana. Good afternoon, everyone.

On behalf of Welspun Living Limited, I would like to welcome you all to the full-year and fourth quarter FY 2026 earnings call. Joining me on the call today are Ms.

Dipali Goenka, Managing Director and CEO, and Mr. Manish Bansal, Chief Financial Officer.

We hope you've had the opportunity to review the earnings presentation, which has been filed with the exchanges today and is available on our website. During the course of today's discussion, we will make references from this presentation.

While there is no change in the disclosures, we have refreshed the presentation this quarter to better reflect the business narrative and strategic progress in a more intuitive manner. We will now begin with the opening remarks from the management, following which we will open the floor for a Q&A session.

Should you have any additional questions after the call, please feel free to reach out to us. With that, I would now like to hand over the call to Ms.

Dipali Goenka. Over to you, ma'am.

Dipali Goenka

Thank you, Bharti. Good afternoon, and thank you for joining us for Welspun Living's Q4 and full-year FY '26 earnings call.

FY '26 navigated pronounced external disruption, tariff volatility, geopolitical tensions, and demand softness, with Q4 marking a decisive sequential inflection driven by sharper execution and strengthening business momentum. Revenues improved quarter-on-quarter, margins stepped up meaningfully, cash flows remained strong, and execution momentum is clearly visible entering FY '27.

Q4 revenue grew 7.7% sequentially. Q4 EBITDA margin improved to 10.8%, up 313 bps quarter-on-quarter.

Full-year free cash flow generation of 956 crores. Net debt reduced by 52% year-on-year to 775 crores.

What changed this quarter is very important. Volumes stabilized with ease in US tariff uncertainty and emerging FTAs creating stronger market access.

Cost actions taken through the year began to flow through. Strong growth momentum in our branded business, 44% year-on-year growth in Welspun and 19% year-on-year growth in SPACES.

Management actions through FY '26 were deliberate and disciplined. We protected customer relationships and focused on geographic diversification, with our non-US share expanding to 41%.

We intensified cost discipline and optimized working capital, delivering structural cost efficiencies. Our investments in innovation, sustainability, and nearshore manufacturing continued, and we ended the year on a positive note with the commencement of commercial production at our Nevada greenfield pillow facility on 31st March 2026.

As we look ahead, our operating guardrails for FY '27 are clear: driving profitable growth and margin recovery led by operating leverage and mix improvement, navigating global market dynamics and macroeconomic volatility with agility and sharp execution, continued balance sheet strengthening with strong working capital discipline. Q4 was about stabilization.

FY '27 will be about scaling profitably and responsibly. Turning to our performance highlights, FY '26 was marked by sharp external volatility driven by US trade uncertainty and disruption from the West Asia conflict, which pressured freight, energy, and commodity costs across global supply chains.

At the same time, a clear structural shift is underway, with India strengthening its position as a preferred sourcing destination following progress on trade frameworks with the US, UK, Europe, Japan, and Australia. The EU and UK together represent a home textile market of over USD 30 billion, where FTAs structurally enhance India's competitiveness and create multi-year growth opportunities beyond the US.

Against this backdrop, our FY '26 consolidated revenues stood at 9,468 crores, down 11.5% year-on-year to a period that I would characterize not as a reversal of our fundamentals, but as a year of external shock absorption. EBITDA margins for the full year stood at 9.1%, reflective of a deliberate choice to protect customer relationships, capacity, and talent through an exceptionally difficult operating environment.

The fourth quarter showed green shoots. Consolidated quarterly revenue grew 7.7% sequentially.

EBITDA margins for the quarter stood at 10.8%, a meaningful sequential step-up of 313 bps, reflecting both operating discipline and the benefits of sustained cost optimization efforts. Our home textile business remained impacted by cautious retail buying and tariff uncertainty, with FY '26 revenues declining 11.2%.

However, India remains the stable sourcing destination, with 45% share in cotton terry towels and 60% share in cotton sheets as per OTEXA. At the same time, we continued to focus on geographic diversification beyond the US, with expansion in share to 41% in FY '26 across Europe, UK, India, and ROW.

With emerging FTAs creating stronger market access and tariff competitiveness, our non-US growth strategy becomes increasingly important in building a more balanced, resilient, and future-ready global portfolio. The pillow utility and fashion bedding remain high potential categories.

Our Ohio pillow facility continues to ramp up well, with utilization now at 60%, and we doubled the business this year to USD 27.5 million from 15 million in FY '25. We also partially commenced commercial production at our Nevada pillow facility in March 2026, further strengthening our local manufacturing presence and long-term play in US sleep ecosystem.

Another key strategic priority is strengthening our branded and consumer-faced portfolio, which contributed 19.3% of FY '26 revenues and continues to improve the quality of growth. Our global brands accounted for 12% of our business and continued to deepen shelf presence across key international markets.

Christy delivered 15% growth in FY '26 driven by strong UK performance, improving US e-commerce traction, and sharper brand positioning and penetration. Our homegrown brand, Welhome, built around elevated comfort, design, and value, also scaled up meaningfully, delivering USD 9.4 million in revenues, with strong traction across North America and expansion underway in Japan, the UK, China, and Taiwan.

Welhome is well positioned for a double-digit growth. We're also seeing strong momentum in our institutional business through our brand Welspun Hospitality, with growing presence across marquee hospitality chains globally, including Hyatt, IHG, Wyndham Hotels and Resorts, and Marriott International.

This channel strengthens our premium positioning, drives specification-led demand, and creates a strong bridge between B2B sales and B2C brand visibility. In India, our consumer brands, Welspun and SPACES, delivered strong momentum, growing 44% and 19% Y-o-Y respectively in quarter four, supported by stronger brand salience, premiumization, and sharper channel execution.

Taken together, our branded portfolio is becoming a meaningful long-term growth engine, improving margin resilience, stronger customer stickiness, and a structurally superior business mix. India continues to be one of the structural growth stories for our business, and our domestic consumer business remains a key strategic growth engine.

In Q4 FY '26, the business delivered an outstanding performance, with revenue growing 29.2% Y-o-Y and achieving EBITDA breakeven for the quarter. For the full year, domestic revenue stood at 657 crores, up 9% Y-o-Y, reflecting improving scale, stronger execution, a healthier business mix, and continued channel diversification.

This momentum is being driven by strong performance of our Welspun and SPACES brands. Our domestic flooring business also continued its strong trajectory, growing 18% Y-o-Y for the full year, with healthy contributions from housing, hospitality, and institutional demand.

This growth is further supported by a focused engagement with architects, interior designers, and project contractors, helping us strengthen specification-led demand. The broader India's macros remain supportive.

Easing retail inflation and rising urban and rural disposable incomes provide a compelling tailwind for our domestic business. We are investing ahead of this curve, deepening distribution, expanding our product range, and strengthening our brand equity.

Our global flooring business saw the sharpest impact from West Asia logistics disruption and US tariff headwinds through FY '26, resulting in a 25.1% year-on-year revenue decline. Whilst near-term performance has been pressured, the structural fundamentals of business remain intact.

Our focus is on regional diversification across ANZ, Canada, and the Middle East, backed by strong customer partnerships, with a meaningful recovery, particularly in soft flooring, expected over the coming year. Our advanced textiles business operated in a softer global demand environment during FY '26, with revenues declining 20% Y-o-Y to 452 crores, primarily due to volume pressure and slower export offtake.

At the same time, we secured important wins through high-value niche applications, including sustainable hygiene solutions, fem care, specialty wipes, protective apparel, and insulation, reinforcing our strategic shift towards value-added and differentiated categories. The medium-term outlook for this business remains constructive, with the UK and the EU FTAs materially strengthening our access to key European markets for technical textiles, specialty non-wovens, and wipes, segments where quality, compliance, and sustainability are critical purchasing drivers.

Sustainability and innovation continue to be two of Welspun Living's strongest competitive moats. In FY '26, our sustainability leadership achieved strong global recognition, with Welspun Living being ranked number one globally in the textile, apparel, and luxury goods category in 2025 S&P Global Corporate Sustainability Assessment, with a score of 90.

We have also initiated a supplier focus program, Step-Zero, which aims to build a strong partnership with our suppliers, who will play a key role in carbon mitigation in the entire value chain. Our global retailers increasingly making sourcing decisions based on ESG compliance with traceability and long-term resilience, our sustainability leadership becomes increasingly important.

We remain firmly on track towards FY '30 commitments of 100% renewable energy and 100% sustainable cotton. Alongside this, our innovation portfolio, such as HygroCotton, GX pillow, and Wel-Track, continue to support premiumization and customer stickiness, contributing 20% of our business.

During the quarter, we filed two new patents, taking our total IP portfolio to 50 patents, further strengthening our long-term differentiation and value creation. We enter FY '27 with greater clarity and strengthened competitive position, supported by structural tailwinds that are steadily coming into play.

The benefits from FTAs are multi-year and durable. The US retail environment is stabilizing, though some near-term overhang still persists.

India's domestic growth momentum continues to accelerate. Importantly, our operating model has been stress-tested and sharpened through a challenging cycle, leaving us better prepared to capitalize on the next phase of growth.

FY '27 will be a year of measured volume recovery and margin progression, and we expect to exit the year on a stronger growth trajectory targeting double-digit growth. While structural tailwinds in the form of tariff easing and FTAs are coming into play, the global macro environment remains uncertain, with a continuously evolving geopolitical and trade landscape.

Against this backdrop, our operating model has been rigorously stress-tested and strengthened positioning us to deliver a sharper growth trajectory with double-digit growth and EBITDA margins advancing into the teens in FY '27. With that, I will hand over to Manish to take you through the detailed financial performance.

Thank you.

Manish Bansal

Thank you, Dipali. Good afternoon, everyone.

Let me take you through the detailed financial performance for Q4 FY '26 and full year FY '26. The quarter showed clear signs of sequential improvement across both revenue and profitability.

Consolidated revenue improved by 7.7% over Q3, which indicate early signs of improving customer demand and better visibility as tariff uncertainty started easing. Q4 EBITDA margin stood at 10.8%, improved by 313 basis points sequentially from 7.7% in Q3.

This was supported by better utilization, improved product mix, cost rationalization, and favorable forex realization. FY '26 consolidated revenue stood 9,468 crores, a decline of 11.5% year-on-year, reflecting the impact of US tariff headwind, cautious retailers buying, and softened discretionary demand in our key export market, especially during the first half of the year.

Full-year EBITDA margin stood at 9.1% compared to 13.6% last year. The margin dilution is primarily attributable to lower volume and tariff-related realization impact.

As committed, we undertook focused action to strengthen governance and financial discipline, and I'm pleased to share the outcomes. Tighter controls led to a reduction in debtors and inventory by 345 crores, improved net working capital by 776 crores, driving a significant improvement in free cash flow to 956 crores, up 8.5x year-on-year.

This enabled a sharp reduction in net debt to 775 crores, down 52% from last year. Cash conversion cycle at 82 days improved meaningfully versus last few years, demonstrating stronger operating control across businesses.

Total capex for FY '26 stood at 472 crores, focused on productivity improvement, sustainability, and selective growth opportunities. For FY '27, we expect capex in the range of 400 to 500 crores, largely towards modernization, automation, and debottlenecking operations.

We refer to our intimation dated July 30th, 2025, about Board of Directors' approval for a capital expenditure of US dollar 13 million for setting up pillow manufacturing unit at Nevada. We are pleased to share that our Nevada pillow facility is in the US partially commenced commercially production of 4.5 million pieces from March 31st, 2026.

This strengthens our local manufacturing presence in US and supports our long-term growth strategy in the sleep solution category. Reflecting our continued focus on disciplined capital allocation and long-term shareholder value creation, I am pleased to inform that Board has approved buyback of equity shares of the company at price of rupees 175 per share for an aggregated amount not exceeding to 252 crores and dividend recommendation at 10% per equity share for the financial year 2026, subject to shareholders' approval.

We remain focused on improving margins, strengthening cash flows, and maintaining capital discipline as demand gradually normalizes. With that, I will now leave the floor open for question and answers.

Thank you very much.

Operator

Thank you very much. We will now begin the question and answer session.

Anyone who wishes to ask a question may press star and one on their touchtone telephone. If you wish to remove yourself from the question queue, you may press star and two.

Participants are requested to please use handsets while asking a question. Ladies and gentlemen, we will now wait for a moment while the question queue assembles.

Our first question comes from the line of Prerna Jhunjhunwala from Elara Securities. Please go ahead.

Prerna Jhunjhunwala

Thank you, and a good improvement on a quarter-on-quarter basis. Wanted to understand the tariff situation now that there are various talks about tariff refunds and lower tariffs to continue and stuff.

What are your readings on tariff going ahead, and how should we assume the utilization levels improving for you for FY '27 and moving forward?

Dipali Goenka

Prerna, thank you for your question. I think let me just set the clarity on the tariffs, how it actually evolved.

It started from March 10%, and then it moved to 25%, and then 28th August onwards it moved to 50%. Then the next February, it came back to 10%.

Now this whole thing of the tariff refund that is coming through. There's a conversation that's happening.

I want to just give you a scenario here. Our more than 80% of our business is FOB and where we basically have to work with the customers on the tariff refund and rest of it also, there's conversation that is happening.

We'll let you know when the clarity gets better there. Now when you talk about the utilization, as we spoke about our numbers that the growth that we're talking about, we definitely are seeing our utilization getting better in towels and sheets, and even in bath rugs.

The utilization will be above more than 86% across all the three categories as we go forward. Yes, things that way look better because even in the toughest times of tariff, we didn't lose any customer.

The conversations, we worked on partnerships and strategy.

Prerna Jhunjhunwala

That's very encouraging, that 86% reversal to 86% in FY '26. How do we see margins in light of increasing cotton prices?

Are we getting price hikes from customers, or tariff refunds actually play as a cushion for next year? Just wanted some clarity on that also given cotton prices have increased sharply in the last 2 months.

Dipali Goenka

It is not just cotton, I think let me also tell you the cotton prices have gone up by 10%, the man-made fibers have gone up by more than 20%, and the crude by 40%. Overall, it all straightly impacts the whole commodity cost that we lead.

However, as we spoke about this year also, we did a lot of governance, cost controls that will play a very big role. Whenever these kind of things happen, and even in the tariff situation that we had, we talked about a 50-50% sharing.

Here also conversations are happening with the customers, and wherever it is needed, we will discuss how the prices will have to be passed, Prerna.

Prerna Jhunjhunwala

Ma'am, do you think that there will be some margin pressure continuing at least in the first half given these cost escalations, or a regular improvement in margins is doable given tariffs are not there?

Dipali Goenka

As I spoke about a double-digit growth in the top line and also kind of a teen EBITDA margin, I think that's what will sum up everything, Prerna, at the moment.

Prerna Jhunjhunwala

Because

Dipali Goenka

there are a lot of factors in the terms of everything that will contribute to that, right?

Prerna Jhunjhunwala

Understood, ma'am. Last question is on flooring business.

How do we see traction over there and where do we see the segment moving ahead in next 2 years?

Dipali Goenka

Yeah. Here, Prerna, I think the most vulnerable business due to the whole Middle East and the others has been flooring.

I must tell you soft flooring has seen an upside and it has positive margins potential, 20% plus, and a CAGR potential growth. It is all owing to the commercial segment traction in US, co-branded carpet tiles collections, and also our diversification in Australia, New Zealand.

The soft flooring is something that we definitely see an upside there. A lot of opportunities are there in terms of innovation and focus.

The domestic flooring, where the businesses are growing, all the commercial opportunities that you see, the architects and the interior designers. Definitely here the growth is coming up to 30%, and we'll continue to grow this even better.

The soft flooring and the domestic flooring definitely sees it. When we talk about the hard flooring, we're rationalizing the portfolio, and we're protecting our margins.

A lot of work has been done here, Prerna, and we will look at that, how we grow prudently in the terms of margins and also the top line.

Prerna Jhunjhunwala

Ma'am, on flooring, what are the kind of opportunities with FTA-driven countries, because you mentioned about US in this entire response, but it would be great if we could understand what could be the opportunity in UK, Europe eventually that could support this

Dipali Goenka

or

Prerna Jhunjhunwala

accelerate this growth going forward?

Dipali Goenka

Yes. Prerna, as I spoke about Australia, New Zealand, Middle East, Europe, these all will open up in a big way.

As you also know that a landscape of a hospitality and the commercial in America that we have penetrated the same way, we are penetrating into the commercial and the hospitality space in UK and Europe. FTA will add on to the upside here in the terms of flooring.

Prerna Jhunjhunwala

Ma'am. Thank you, and all the best.

Dipali Goenka

Thank you. Thank you, Prerna.

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question is from the line of Shraddha Agrawal from Asian Market Securities.

Please go ahead.

Shraddha Agrawal

Hi. Congratulations, Dipali, on a good quarter, and also appreciate the confidence you are giving for FY '27.

Just had two questions. One is given the rising inflation in the US, how do you see that impacting retail demand in '27?

Against that backdrop, what gives this confidence of improvement in utilization levels to 87% plus? Don't you think that increasing inflation will have some impact on consumer demand?

Dipali Goenka

Shraddha, very good question. Yes, inflation could be up in America.

However, the retail demand is still very robust. We see that kind of a strong buy in America.

I think in the conversation that we spoke about, our non-US markets have also contributing around 41% of our top line. Now with the FTAs, now as we see UK opening up by June end.

The UK FTA, it happens by June end, I think the second quarter will see that happening. The Europe will happen in January.

We will definitely see the upsides of these kind of businesses as well, apart from the other rest of the world countries that we're looking at. To your question, US is the world's biggest consumption economy.

With even where we're looking at the inflation, we will still see the growth there comparatively even to the last year, Shraddha.

Shraddha Agrawal

Right. The second question is again on macros.

With rupee USD levels, USD rupee is now at 96. Are clients pressing us to pass on the rupee depreciation benefits, or is there any change to our contractual terms with clients, or is there any change in hedging policy, and what is our current hedge cover, and how should we look at hedging gains or loss, assuming the current spot rate of 96 to continue into '27?

Dipali Goenka

Shraddha, our whole policies remain constant for years, and we remain there. Now let me tell you, when you talk about the cost, I will say currency is at 9.6%, but if you look at the others, crude oil is at 40% up, cotton is at 10%, yarn terry towel is up 20-30%, yarn bed sheet is up 20-30%, the dyes and chemicals are up 20%, the man-made fibers and the polymers are up 20%.

Then you're setting off that cost. Customers totally understand that.

We completely are talking with them in close conversation around what is the kind of net delta that we're looking at. There's no net delta gain, even with a rupee where it is.

We are working, and we'll work on how we can look at sharing the costs as well.

Shraddha Agrawal

Right. Secondly, in terms of utilization for our utility bedding plant in US,

Dipali Goenka

I think

Shraddha Agrawal

the first plant is already operating at 60% utilization. How should we look at the cadence of utilization improvement for the first plant and the partial beginning of ramp-up of the second plant?

How should we look at the ramp-up there?

Dipali Goenka

Yeah. Let me just give you two scenarios.

When we talk about both the pillow plants, one is in the Midwest, one is in Ohio, the other is on the West Coast. These are bulky products, they have to be closer to the DCs and the warehousing of our customers.

They both will have the demands accordingly. Ohio is at 60%, which will definitely ramp up ahead.

Also with Nevada, along with man-made filling that we are going to do, we also going to do natural fiber. That will also add on a category in a kind of an upside on our UBR also.

Shraddha Agrawal

Right. What is the kind of potential revenue expected from the Nevada facility in '27?

Dipali Goenka

They literally will double. See, I'll tell you this year we did around $27 million.

Next year, we tend to double, and we are talking about $60 million. That's the kind of a visibility that we are seeing for the next year.

Shraddha Agrawal

Got it. Sure.

Thanks, Dipali, and wish you all the best. Thank you.

Dipali Goenka

Thank you, Shraddha. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question is from the line of Anand S from Avendus Spark.

Please go ahead.

Anand S

Hey. Hi, ma'am.

Thanks for taking my question. Just wanted to understand a bit on the medium-term revenue aspirations that we had in terms of, let's say, a 15,000 crore kind of a number.

I understand while the prospects in between have changed, how are we looking at that number currently? That is one.

In terms of which segment we are looking to drive the growth for, let's say, the next couple of years? That's my second question.

Possibly one other in terms of what's the peak revenue potential that we have in our existing capacities and what's the capex that we need to achieve that 15,000 crore kind of a number broadly?

Dipali Goenka

When you talked about a 15,000 crores, owing to the current, we look at next 3 years that we will achieve these numbers. In the current optimized capacities that we're looking at, we can move up to around 11,500 to 12,000.

That's where we are looking at it. When we talk about the growth, I think let me tell you, we are the leaders in bath category across and now present in more than 50 countries.

We would take this, and with the FTA opportunity, we want to see our towels across, and that's a great opportunity of growth that we're looking at. A sleep sequential system that we have created for pillows, which actually is as big category as towels, we'll again see kind of an upside there.

These are important categories. Apart from that, the other growth will come in from our brands.

I think India is at an inflection point. I know right now the per capita consumption where it looks like, but I think as we go forward, we definitely we'll see an upside here.

Our target towards 1,000 crores is absolutely spot-on here. We will see that growth happening here, along with our brand Welhome and Christy, which is a premium UK brand, which actually is growing and having a good robust footprint.

We'll see a good traction in brands as well. This is where we are seeing our next footprint happening.

Anand S

That's helpful, ma'am. Thank you.

Dipali Goenka

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question is from the line of Shweta Sharma from Arihant Capital.

Please go ahead.

Shweta Sharma

Thank you so much for the opportunity. I hope I'm audible.

Dipali Goenka

Yeah. Sure, Shweta.

Go ahead.

Shweta Sharma

Yeah. Ma'am, we saw a domestic consumer business an impressive growth in Q4.

While the global remains mixed, are you seeing sign of restoking from major US and Europe retailers for the upcoming holiday season, or is the current demand still primarily driven by replacement cycle rather than expansionary inventory building?

Dipali Goenka

See, I'll tell you one thing. We are looking at kind of a reasonable growth next year.

As I've spoke about in my speech as well, that our top line will grow by a double digit, and that's what we are maintaining across the globe. Indian market will again grow at a rate of around 20 26% to 30%.

That's what we also maintaining. We will see this kind of a growth coming in from whether it's United States of America or UK, Europe.

I think the FTAs, where you will see most of the FTAs opening up. UK, as I spoke about, is already right round the corner, Europe by January end.

I think and more and more and more FTAs opening up could be a great opportunity for us as well.

Shweta Sharma

Okay. With the new FTAs in place, what's the strategy for soft flooring in the UK and Europe, and do you expect this segment to achieve margin parity with the core home textile business by the end of FY '27?

Dipali Goenka

Both businesses are very different. However, we definitely will have an advantage with the FTAs opening up in UK, Europe.

We already are working with Middle East, Australia, New Zealand. Yes, we definitely will have that upside.

The margin parity is round about the same.

Shweta Sharma

Okay. Sir, Indian US trade agreement reducing tariff from 50 to 18% in Feb, how much this benefit is being retained as margin expansion compared to passed on to retailers to regain the market share lost during the high tariff period?

Dipali Goenka

We didn't lose any market share, first of all. We retained each and every customer, so that is something that is there.

I think it's moved from 50% to 10%, and now the BTA is having whether it's going to be 15 or 18, that conversation is happening. Always it is a conversation with the customers at partnership.

It's going to be definitely a 50-50, and that's the conversation we've already been having with our customers on.

Shweta Sharma

Okay. Okay.

Thank you so much, ma'am. That's all from my side.

Thank you.

Dipali Goenka

Thank you. Thank you so much.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question is from the line of Aradhana Jain from 360 ONE Capital.

Please go ahead.

Aradhana Jain

Hi. Thank you for the opportunity, and congratulations on a good set of numbers.

Just couple of questions from my end. One, to continue with the previous participant's question on the US tariff side, we are at 10% today.

The Section 122 is applicable, I guess, till June end. After that, you're saying maybe we go to 15 or 18, and there's also Section 301, which has been initiated on a lot of countries, including India.

Say if that also gets concluded, because of all of this uncertainty, have we seen any meaningful change in the ordering behavior from, say, the larger retailers over the last 2-3 months and the tariff-related discussions globally? That's my first question.

Dipali Goenka

No. Till July 24th is our 10% that we're talking about, and the conversation is still happening with the governments regarding the BTA that is happening.

One thing is that we are in close conversation with our customers practically every day in America since our teams are already there on the ground, and we are not seeing any kind of disruption there. That way, I think we are pretty okay with that.

Anything else, Aradhana? In fact, as I spoke about our utilization also, our utilization is around 86% and above.

This also is contributing to that factor of utilization increase.

Aradhana Jain

Understood. Second is there was already a discussion on the cotton and yarn price increase, but ultimately, we as a downstream player, we'll have to either take the hit by ourselves or pass it on.

Is the industry currently able to pass on the raw material inflation smoothly, or does the weak global demand backdrop limit the sort of pricing power?

Dipali Goenka

There are conversations that will happen with customers, and there is definitely that opportunity that we will work together to share the load. That is something that we are looking at with our customers.

That will have to be shared, and the conversations are on accordingly.

Aradhana Jain

Understood. Lastly, any guidance on the EBITDA margin side by when do we expect to get closer or back to the 14-15% kind of range at the EBITDA level?

Dipali Goenka

Despite the macro factors that you are seeing today, and you know how tough these are, we are looking at a double-digit growth and a kind of a teen EBITDA in our next year's plan. That actually speaks it all.

Aradhana Jain

Understood. Thank you so much.

Dipali Goenka

Thank you. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question is from the line of Shirish Pardeshi from Motilal Oswal.

Please go ahead.

Shirish Pardeshi

Hi. Good afternoon.

Thank you for the opportunity. On the slide 10, I'm reading global B2B and others is contributing 52% of the business, and on Y-o-Y, it is declined about 12%.

Two questions. Have we lost any customer here, or it's a linear decline because they are sitting in US, everybody has declined in terms of their ordering?

Dipali Goenka

No, there's no loss of any customer. It is the kind of the demand decrease, because there was uncertainty, right?

Once the tariff was 10%, the other is 25%, then India becomes a 50%, right? Hence, there was this uncertainty flavor that was there, there was a lot of communication that happened with the customers, and that's where it is.

There's no loss because of any customer loss here.

Shirish Pardeshi

Okay. When you look at the past 12 months and next 12 months forward, this 4,400 crore business will see what legs, what run speed for FY '27?

Dipali Goenka

When you're looking at a double-digit growth here, and I spoke about it earlier as well. We are also not just seeing the America market grow, and as I spoke about, our UK, Europe contributing around 41% this quarter, which will also be an opportunity because the FTAs, like UK will happen in June end, and Europe will happen in January end.

I think that's something that we are seeing as a potential opportunity as well.

Shirish Pardeshi

I heard that, Dipali, but the question here is that you have Ohio and Nevada coming up and scaling up. What would be the US US growth you are penciling in?

Dipali Goenka

No, US will be primarily contributing to the growth. Pillows is already as I spoke about, this year we clocked around $27 million.

We are going to clock double, 60 million actually literally next year on our pillows. Ohio and Nevada will contribute to that.

USA definitely is going to be a very big one in the contribution of a growth of a double-digit growth, as we see at Welspun Living Limited on B2B global.

Shirish Pardeshi

Okay. Given the RM challenges and tariff situation, what is the margin we would be doing?

I don't know whether you share that in '26, but this 52% business, I would assume that would have EBITDA margin of about 5.5-6%. I don't know whether it is right or wrong, you correct me.

How does this pan out in FY '27? No.

Dipali Goenka

See, the thing is, as I spoke about, we'll have a double-digit growth and a teen EBITDA, so that actually speaks it all. We are not 5% to 7%, we should do better, honestly.

Shirish Pardeshi

Okay. Last question on the flooring business, which is about 700-odd crore B2B and branded.

Dipali Goenka

Yeah.

Shirish Pardeshi

Yeah. This business to my best understanding has a lot of momentum, and we also have a capability.

Somehow this business is not being able to scale up. I don't know what is your expectation, but it is not done well over the last 2-3 years.

Hmm. Next 2-3 years, if we build this number, what kind of business we can see that?

Dipali Goenka

Flooring 1,000 crores kind of a number we're talking about right now. We are talking about soft flooring completely growing, and I think that's where we'll see a great opportunity because there's a potential even with the FTAs that are opening up.

Only the hard flooring bit, which is a very small part of it, we are controlling very prudently and also looking at kind of a margin control there as well. We are good to go on the soft flooring.

With the FTAs opening up in UK, Europe, and also in the Middle East and Australia, New Zealand, and also the India market, as I spoke about, has grown 30%, and we also anticipating to grow next year at 30%, is a good opportunity here. You are right, flooring has seen the biggest impact due to the macroeconomics more than anything else.

Shirish Pardeshi

Okay. Just last question if I can squeeze in, this 252 crore buyback, how one should look at the capital allocation, because you also have a debt of about 700-odd crore?

Next 2-3 years, is there any guidance you can give how we should be looking these numbers?

Dipali Goenka

Sure. Manish?

Yeah.

Manish Bansal

Hi, Shirish. Manish here.

Thank you for the question. Basically, as I mentioned, this is coming out from our cash.

In this year we have done well in terms of our cash flow, working capital management, and we will continue to do that. We are looking in ideal world next year debt-free company and net debt zero company, unless we plan any additional capex for any special requirement.

Otherwise, if all goes well, then we will be net debt zero company next year.

Shirish Pardeshi

All right. Thank you, Manish, and all the best.

Manish Bansal

Thank you. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question is from the line of Ronak Shah with Equirus Securities.

Please go ahead.

Ronak Shah

Yeah. Thanks for the opportunity.

My question is regarding the advanced textile segment. Though it is a relatively smaller segment in our overall piece, but how you are seeing the growth rates and the opportunity in this business considering there are so much noise into a street regarding this?

Dipali Goenka

Advanced textile, we are actually moving from the commoditized product to value-added offerings. We primarily focus on consumer segment here.

We are going to look at a kind of EBITDA steady state of around more than 20 around 20% here. Our focus segments will be hometech, medtech, and protech, and indutech.

Of course, right now in 2026, we secured strong wins across sustainable diapers, fem care, specialty wipes, protective apparel, and jacket insulation. I can just sum it up by saying that advanced textile, we'll be focused on innovation-led positioning.

As the company also has 50-plus patents. There's a lot of strong product development happening here as well.

Ronak Shah

Understood. Understood.

My second question is regarding in case company is coming up with any lot of M&A opportunity, what will be the space you will be keep focusing on?

Dipali Goenka

That's something will have to be seen, because as you have literally seen that our opportunities are also in the brands that we are working in globally. Our own brands that we have, we have opportunities for growth in different countries.

Let's see. These are all open-ended, and we are open to those opportunities actually.

Ronak Shah

Understood. Understood.

That's it from my side. Thank you.

Dipali Goenka

Thank you so much.

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, if you wish to ask questions, you may please press star and one.

Our next question is from the line of Jayshree Gitani with JFK Fincorp. Please go ahead.

Yeah. Hi, ma'am.

Good set of numbers comparing the previous quarters. One question that I wanted to ask that, I think in the last con-call, you had talked about entering the GCC region as well, or I think you're already operating there.

Dipali Goenka

Yes.

Yeah. Due to this war impact, how much of the business impact do we see over there, and in general, due to the Strait of Hormuz closure?

What is the other impact that we are seeing?

Dipali Goenka

GCC actually is 2% of our revenues. Most of the businesses are FOB, here, that actually is something we'll wait and watch till this whole clears up.

The impact on our business is very, very minimal.

All right. What about the export that we're doing to the other countries?

Will that be impacted due to the closure of the Strait?

Dipali Goenka

No. If you remember, we also had the Red Sea issue, and there's always been that thing of Cape of Good Hope, it goes around the Cape of Good Hope.

It takes 15 to 20 days. I think the whole trade and commerce has been working accordingly for the long time as well.

I think we all used to that now. That's what will continue here.

All right. Okay.

One more question what I wanted to ask is, about the facilities that we have in USA, are we planning to expand aggressively or the guidance that you gave that is what we are planning as of now? See,

Dipali Goenka

right now we have these two our own organic facilities that we have put up, which are absolutely state-of-art, Ohio and now Nevada, which commissioned on 31st March. We are going to look at it, plus we have lots of partnerships there whom we are working with there not only in US, but also in Canada.

We are looking at that, and it's not only retail, but also in hospitality. We are very focused in what we are doing.

As I have said, we did $27.5 million this year. We'll doubling it to 60 million next year.

That's where, and we'll continue to grow this. Our goal will continue to be adding value-added products and better and best category more than anything else, and focus on sleep as a category, which will not only be pillows, but also the utility bedding.

Perfect, ma'am. All right.

Thanks. I'll get back in the queue, and all the best to you.

Dipali Goenka

Thank you so much.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question is from the line of Hemant Shah with Inam Asset Management Company.

Please go ahead.

Hemant Shah

Thank you for the opportunity. Two questions on the domestic business.

This quarter saw a robust growth, what has led to the growth in both the B2B and branded business? Second is for FY '27 on the domestic online business, do you see growth coming from that business as well, or would it be the offline business that will help grow the branded domestic business?

Dipali Goenka

India, actually, it continues to be the bright spot for us in the global economy that we are talking about. Both brands, like SPACES actually grew 19% in fourth quarter, and Welspun grew 44% in the fourth quarter.

We are absolutely focused. The channels are very, very different here.

One is your general trade, the other is your modern trade, the other is your regional trade, and the other is your commercial and hospitality chains that we have. This is all offline.

When you talked about e-commerce, I think the focus is on quick commerce and also in e-commerce to that extent. I think the India is a very mixed market, and finally the mom-and-pop stores really rule the roost here.

We'll be focused on the offline, and online as the opportunities come in. We also have our own D2C, branded exposure, we are working on that as well.

Hemant Shah

On the domestic B2B side?

Dipali Goenka

B2B, all hospitality. We are working on the hospitality chains.

As we are present globally. We have great partnerships in United States of America, UK, Europe, and those are the brands also that are coming in here, so that is again a very good opportunity for us.

The religious tourism, which is growing at the rate of 20%, is again a very good opportunity for us. The B2B is again going to be very important aspect.

That's what it will be. It's a brands, that's your B2C, and your B2B and D2C.

Hemant Shah

Thank you. That's it from my side.

Dipali Goenka

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question is from the line of Prerna Jhunjhunwala from Elara Securities.

Please go ahead.

Prerna Jhunjhunwala

Hi, thank you for the opportunity. Wanted to check on cotton inventory, how many months of cotton inventory do we have?

Dipali Goenka

We have an inventory cover till October. We are covered primarily till October, and we'll continue to buy yarn when we require little bit here and there.

Till the next season comes, that's what we have.

Prerna Jhunjhunwala

Okay. What is our hedge position today?

Are we maintaining that 65-35 ratio, or we've changed?

Dipali Goenka

That's 65-35. No, no, no, Prerna.

That's what we maintain as a group at Welspun World, and we maintain that across all our companies, group companies.

Prerna Jhunjhunwala

Understood, ma'am. Thank you, and all the best.

Dipali Goenka

Thank you. Thank you, Prerna.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Rohit Ohri with Progressive Shares.

Please go ahead.

Rohit Ohri

Hi, Dipali. Two questions.

Dipali Goenka

First one

Rohit Ohri

of this total turnover that we have, how much percentage or what value would you give to premiumization?

Dipali Goenka

If we talk about it, 22% of our contribution comes in from innovation. As you saw our brands also grow, that again is important.

Our branded business was around 19%, definitely that's again a good opportunity for us. These are important aspects of what we are looking at, our growth that is coming in.

Rohit Ohri

On the ROCE, do you have any guidance to share with us for the next 3 years or so?

Dipali Goenka

ROCE will continue to improve. This year has been a challenged one, and I know it was.

We'll come back to where we were and, in fact, better it as we go forward. That is something that we are seeing, and we are very positive about it.

Rohit Ohri

That growth would be

Dipali Goenka

Say about around more than 15%?

Rohit Ohri

That's going to be asset-heavy or asset-light? Asset-light

Dipali Goenka

right now.

Rohit Ohri

Okay. Those were the two questions.

Thank you for answering my questions.

Dipali Goenka

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. We have no further questions.

Ladies and gentlemen, I would now like to hand the conference over to the management for closing comments.

Dipali Goenka

Thank you, Darwin. FY '26 was a year that tested our resilience.

We chose to protect what matters most: our people, our customer relationships, our capacity, and our brand equity through a difficult cycle. That was the right choice, and the early green shoots in Q4 FY '26 validate that view.

While the global macro environment remains fluid and near-term uncertainties persist, the structural outlook is turning more positive. India's evolving FTA architecture creates a strong long-term advantage, while the West Asia situation remains uncertain and requires close monitoring.

At the same time, India's domestic consumption momentum continues to strengthen. At Welspun Living, we enter FY '27 with the balance sheet strength, operational discipline, brand equity, and customer relationships to emerge as a stronger, more valuable business.

We are not just managing through this moment; we are positioning to lead the next chapter. Thank you for your continued trust and confidence in Welspun Living.

We look forward to constructive conversation. For any further queries, please feel free to connect with the Investor Relations team.

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. On behalf of 360 ONE Capital Markets, that concludes this conference.

Thank you all for joining us. You may now disconnect your lines.