Ooma, Inc.

Thank you, Towanda. Good day, everyone, and welcome to the First Quarter Fiscal 2027 Earnings Call of Ooma, Inc.

My name is Matt Robison, Ooma's Director of IR and Corporate Development. On the call with me today are Ooma's CEO, Eric Stang; and CFO, Shig Hamamatsu.

After the market closed today, Ooma issued its first quarter fiscal 2027 earnings press release. This release is also available on the company's website, ooma.com.

This call is being webcast live and is accessible from a link on the Events and Presentations page of the Investor Relations section of our website. This link will be active for replay of this call for 1 year.

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Our expectations and beliefs regarding these matters may not materialize, and actual results are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those projected. These risks include those set forth in the press release we issued earlier today and those risks more fully described in our filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission.

The forward-looking statements in this presentation are based on information available to us as of the date hereof, and we disclaim any obligation to update any forward-looking statements, except as required by law. Please note that other than revenue or as otherwise stated, the financial measures to be disclosed on this call will be on a non-GAAP basis.

The non-GAAP financial measures are not intended to be considered in isolation or as a substitute for results prepared in accordance with GAAP. A discussion of why we present non-GAAP financial measures and a reconciliation of the non-GAAP financial measures discussed in this call to the most directly comparable GAAP financial measures is included in our earnings press release, which is available on our website.

On this call, we will give guidance for second quarter and full year fiscal 2027 on a non-GAAP basis. Also in addition to our press release and 8-K filing, the Overview page and Events and Presentations page in the Investors section of our website as well as the quarterly results page of the Financial Information section of our website include links to information about costs and expenses not included in our non-GAAP values and key metrics of our core subscription businesses.

These are filed Supplemental Financial Disclosure 1 and Supplemental Financial Disclosure 2. Additionally, our investor presentation slides include GAAP to non-GAAP reconciliation that also provides a resolution of GAAP expenses that are excluded from non-GAAP metrics.

Now I will hand the call over to Ooma's CEO, Eric Stang.

Thank you, Matt. Hi, everyone.

Welcome to Ooma's First Quarter Fiscal Year 2027 Earnings Call. Thank you for joining us.

We're pleased to report strong Q1 financial results and a good start to our fiscal 2027 year. I believe we are making good progress on our key initiatives for this year, and I look forward to reviewing them with you today.

Financially, for Q1, I'm pleased to report that we exceeded expectations with revenue growing 25% year-over-year to $81.1 million, non-GAAP net income growing 73% year-over-year to $9.7 million and adjusted EBITDA growing 78% year-over-year to $11.8 million. Subscription and services revenue from business customers grew 38% year-over-year and reached 69% of total subscription and services revenue.

Excluding the impact of two acquisitions that we made late last year, we stepped up our organic growth rate of business subscription and services revenue by a couple of percentage points to 9% year-over-year. As expected, a key driver of our stronger business services growth was AirDial.

AirDial services revenue in Q1 was up by 80% versus a year ago. And on the residential side of our business, I'm happy to mention that for the first time in many quarters, we grew our base of residential users in Q1.

All in, we believe we are off to a strong start for fiscal 2027, and so we'll be providing improved guidance for the balance of this year later in our remarks. As we discussed on our last conference call, we are focused on several key initiatives for this fiscal year.

The first that I would like to address is our commitment to expanding AirDial. We believe the market opportunity for POTS replacement is accelerating as more companies incur higher POTS charges or have their lines turned off by AT&T or others.

And as you know, we have built AirDial from the ground up to provide a fully integrated solution incorporating unique features to best serve this market. In Q1, we were proud to announce new features, including equipment disconnect detection, where we identify if the equipment that is connected to AirDial goes down.

We also announced off-hook alerts to identify equipment connected to AirDial that goes off hook for an extended time. These features were added in response to a customer of ours in the health care space who must ensure working connections are always in place.

We believe that both of these new features are unique to AirDial and bring added differentiation to AirDial's remote device management suite of services. Commercially, Q1 was a record quarter for AirDial.

New lines installed were more than double the number of a year ago. In general, we are seeing increased market interest in POTS replacement by many industry sectors.

And in Q1, we achieved particular success serving health care customers, REITs and state and local government bodies, including schools. In Q1, we also met our goal of securing two additional AirDial resellers in the quarter.

One of these new resellers will be switching away from a competitor's product to exclusively sell AirDial. We are excited to be working with them and all of our 40-plus AirDial resellers.

The second initiative for this year that I would like to discuss is our plans to introduce AI solutions on our Ooma Office platform. I'm pleased to report that earlier this month, we announced Ooma AI, which is a suite of new AI-powered capabilities, including AI Transcriptions, AI Answering service, AI Receptionist, AI insights and an open AI integration.

Together, these features enable Ooma customers to capture, summarize and analyze call information automatically while improving responsiveness and overall call handling efficiency. To date, three of these features, namely AI Transcription, AI Answering service and the OpenAI integration have been released to customers and the two others are in beta and will be released soon.

The AI answering service and the AI receptionist service carry a separate monthly charge and the other features have been made available in Ooma's top tier of service called Pro Plus. As such, we expect adoption of Ooma AI to bring increased revenue for Ooma.

In general, we believe AI can be a valuable tool for small businesses to help them automate routine tasks, deliver real-time insights, move faster and work smarter. One statistic we have heard is that over 50% of calls to small businesses go unanswered by a live person and close to 25% go unanswered at all.

A key goal in our development of Ooma AI has been to create the right set of features that will be most useful to small businesses while also making the features very easy to enable and use. While it is early days and too soon to evaluate customers' response to Ooma AI, we are excited about its potential.

The third initiative for this year that I would like to update is our plans for our residential business. Last quarter, I mentioned that Ooma Telo's sales were remarkably robust, and I'm pleased to report that strong sales of Telo continued in Q1.

In fact, as I mentioned earlier, for the first time in many quarters, we grew our base of residential users in Q1. We see several market drivers for residential phones.

One in particular is parents' desire to give their kids a phone but avoid the screen time associated with mobile phone use. We estimate there are approximately 20 million households in the United States with children aged 5 to 14 years old.

According to the Pew Research Center, 86% of parents say managing children's screen time is a day-to-day priority. That's not surprising given studies have shown that smartphone use in children can lead to sleep disruption, negative mental health outcomes and increased inattention symptoms.

Organizations like Wait Until 8th, Unplugged, Smartphone Free Childhood, ScreenStrong, ScreenSense and many others have emerged to help parents with screen time concerns. To address this and give parents a solution, we recently launched MyPhone, a modern landline designed specifically for families with kids.

MyPhone contains several features aimed at allowing parents to monitor and control their kids' phone usage. One is trusted circle calling, which allows calls only between approved contacts and another is quiet hours, which blocks all calls during homework, bedtime or family time.

Online call logs also allow parents to monitor incoming and outgoing calls. I'm pleased to report that we have received a strong retailer response to our announcement of MyPhone.

MyPhone is now available at walmart.com and will soon roll out to other online retailers. We also expect that MyPhone will become available on the shelf in Walmart stores starting this fall.

The last initiative I'd like to touch upon is our plans to make the most of our two acquisitions from late last year and to pursue further acquisitions in the future. We believe the integration of each of our recent acquisitions is going well, and our rationale and plans for each acquisition continue to hold true.

As a reminder, FluentStream is a solid business generating high EBITDA that brings us increased channel strength and another outlet to sell AirDial. Phone.com has low EBITDA, but we can take and are taking steps to improve its financial performance through scale economies.

And Phone.com also affords us a second small business brand in the market with a powerful name and URL. We anticipate driving further improvements over the next 3 quarters as we increasingly leverage Ooma's marketing and sales expertise, lean operations, product strengths and vendor relationships.

As Shig will note in his comments, we have now paid down our debt to about $53 million and intend to continue to pay it down further each quarter to strengthen our ability to make more acquisitions in the future. I will now turn the call over to Shig, our CFO, to discuss our results and outlook in more detail and then return with some closing remarks.

Thank you, Eric, and good afternoon, everyone. I'm going to review our first quarter financial results and then provide our outlook for the second quarter and full year fiscal 2027.

We had a strong start to fiscal '27 with the first quarter revenue of $81.8 million, up 25% year-over-year, driven by the growth of Ooma Business, including AirDial and the additions of FluenStream and Phone.com. On a combined basis, Fluenttream and Phone.com added approximately $11.5 million of revenue in Q1, which was their first full quarter since the acquisition.

Excluding the impact of these acquisitions, total revenue in Q1 grew 7% year-over-year. In Q1, business subscription and services revenue accounted for 69% of total subscription and services revenue as compared to 62% in the prior year quarter.

Q1 product and other revenue came in at $6.6 million and was up 37% year-over-year. driven by the growth of AirDial installations with a record number of AirDial line installations again in Q1, which more than doubled over the prior year quarter.

New bookings for AirDial also continued to be robust and grew more than 75% year-over-year in Q1. On the profitability front, Q1 non-GAAP net income was $9.7 million and grew 73% year-over-year.

On a combined basis, CarScreen and Form.com added approximately $2.7 million of non-GAAP net income in Q1. Excluding the impact of these acquisitions, non-GAAP net income grew 24% year-over-year as we continue to focus on operating leverage on R&D and optimizing our sales and marketing spend.

Now some details on our Q1 revenue. Business subscription and services revenue grew 38% year-over-year in Q1, driven by user growth and ARPU growth for Ooma Business and the additions of FluentStream and Phone.com.

Excluding the impact of the acquisitions, business subscription and services revenue in Q1 grew 9% year-over-year. On the residential side, subscription and services revenue was flat year-over-year as the residential user base continued to stabilize in Q1 following a trend we saw beginning in the second half of the last fiscal year.

For the first quarter, total subscription and services revenue was $74.6 million or 92% of total revenue as compared to $60.3 million or 93% of total revenue in the prior year quarter. Now some details on our key customer metrics.

Please note that Q1 ARPU as well as net dollar retention rate include the impact of the 2 recent acquisitions for the first time as these businesses had their first full quarter with Ooma in Q1. Our blended average monthly subscription and services revenue per core user, or ARPU, increased 9% year-over-year to $16.77.

This year-over-year increase in blended ARPU reflects a meaningful increase in our business core user base with higher ARPU, which now accounts for 49% of the core users as compared to 41% a year ago. During the first quarter, we continue to see a healthy Office Pro and Probus take rate with 53% of new Office users opting for these higher-tier services.

Overall, 39% of Ooma Office users have now subscribed to these higher-tier services. Our net dollar subscription retention rate for the quarter was 99% as compared to 99% in the fourth quarter.

We ended the first quarter with 1,420,000 core users, up from 1,404,000 core users at the end of the fourth quarter. At the end of the first quarter, we had 699,000 business users or 49% of our total core users, an increase of 15,000 from Q4.

Our annual exit recurring revenue was $294.6 million, up 26% year-over-year. Excluding the impact of the recent acquisitions, our annual exit recurring revenue grew 7% year-over-year.

Now some details on our gross margin. Our subscription and services gross margin for the first quarter was 72% compared to 72% in the prior year.

Product and other gross margin for the first quarter was negative 31% as compared to negative 41% for the same period last year. The year-over-year improvement in product and other gross margin reflects an increase in mix of AirDial hardware installation revenue within product and other revenue.

On an overall basis, the total gross margin for Q1 was 64% as compared to 63% in the prior year quarter. And now some details on operating expenses.

Total operating expenses for the first quarter were $41.4 million, an increase of $5.9 million year-over-year due to the additions of FluentStream and Pham.com. Excluding the impact of the acquisitions, the total operating expenses increased $0.3 million from the same period last year.

Sales and marketing expenses for the quarter were $19.7 million or 24% of total revenue, up 8% year-over-year due to the addition of FluentStream and Phone.com expenses. Research and development expenses were $14 million or 17% of total revenue, up 24% year-over-year due to the addition of FluentStream and Phone.com team members.

G&A expenses were $7.6 million or 9% of total revenue for the first quarter compared to $5.8 million for the prior year quarter. Non-GAAP net income for the first quarter was $9.7 million or diluted earnings per share of $0.35 as compared to $0.20 in the prior year quarter.

Adjusted EBITDA for the quarter was a record $11.8 million or 15% of total revenue and grew 78% over the prior year quarter. We ended the quarter with total cash and investments of $17.2 million.

In Q1, we generated $6.4 million of operating cash flow and $4.9 million of free cash flow. On a trailing 12-month basis, we generated $30.3 million of operating cash flow and $24.5 million of free cash flow.

We spent a total of $17.7 million over the last 4 quarters, including $4.6 million in Q1 to buy back stock through a combination of open market repurchase and RSU net share settlement. In addition, we paid down the term loan by $5 million in Q1 and reduced the outstanding debt balance to $53.5 million at the end of Q1.

On the headcount front, we ended the quarter with 1,432 employees and contractors. Now I'll provide guidance for the second quarter and full fiscal year 2027.

Our guidance is on a non-GAAP basis and has been adjusted for expenses such as stock-based compensation, amortization of intangibles and acquisition-related and other expenses. We expect total revenue for the second quarter of fiscal 2027 to be in the range of $81.6 million to $82.3 million, which includes $6.3 million to $6.7 million of product and other revenue.

We expect the second quarter non-GAAP net income to be in the range of $9.4 million to $9.8 million. Non-GAAP diluted EPS is expected to be between $0.33 to $0.34.

We have assumed 28.9 million weighted average diluted shares outstanding for the first quarter. For full year fiscal '27, we expect total revenue to be in the range of $326 million to $328.5 million.

The full year fiscal ' 27 revenue guidance assumes business subscription and services revenue growth rate of approximately 31% over fiscal '26, while residential subscription revenue to be flat to a decline of 1%. In terms of revenue mix for the year, we expect approximately 92% of total revenue to come from subscription and services revenue and the remainder from products and other revenue.

We expect non-GAAP net income for fiscal '27 to be in the range of $37.5 million to $39 million. Based on this guidance range, we estimate our adjusted EBITDA for fiscal '27 to be $45 million to $46.5 million.

We expect non-GAAP diluted EPS for fiscal '27 to be in the range of $1.29 to $1.34. We have assumed approximately 29.1 million weighted average diluted shares outstanding for fiscal 2027.

In summary, we are pleased with our strong start to our fiscal '27 with a record adjusted EBITDA of $11.8 million in Q1, which grew 78% year-over-year along with a record free cash flow of $24.5 million for the trailing 12 months. We're excited about both organic and inorganic growth opportunities in front of us and remain focused on achieving another meaningful progress towards our long-term financial targets.

I'll now pass it back to Eric for some closing remarks. Eric?

Thank you, Shig. With our strong start, we feel we're off to what can be a very strong year for Ooma.

While we have exciting initiatives across our business, we are most focused on capturing what we see as accelerated market demand for AirDial driving added growth through Ooma AI and MyPhone driving further contributions from our acquisitions of FluentStream and Phone.com and working to pursue new acquisitions in the future. Thank you, everyone, for joining us today.

We'll now take your questions.

Congrats on the quarter here. Eric, if I can start with you, it sounds like Ooma AirDial really is picking up can you just give us a sense of your visibility into the future revenue there?

What does the pipeline look like? And how are sort of the implementations going with those customers that you've already sort of one at this point?

Sure. Arjun, so implementations are going great.

We're able to respond as needed as customers come in. And we're excited about all the opportunities we're seeing.

We including those where some of our customers have maybe had a bad experience with another competitor are switching to move to air dial. We we don't really discuss pipeline, so to speak.

But I can say that with 40-plus resellers now, we have quite a big footprint in the industry, helping us find opportunities. And that's part of the strategy here is to really leverage ourselves with all of our great partnerships.

I'm really excited about the 2 we added this last quarter. And obviously, our biggest partners today remain T-Mobile, Comcast and a couple of carriers that we've talked about in the past.

Comcast is still not -- is still only doing a small bit of a small amount of what we think they can be in the future. But still, it's a great relationship and one that is developing.

So we think we have a lot of activity underway. And the market -- it's possible to see where AT&T and others are shutting off lines and a number of announcements just keep going up.

And I think a lot of -- we're talking a lot of companies today that weren't as focused on this a year or 2 ago, but now realize they need to do something, and they're really looking for the best solution in the market. And when we can get that kind of engagement with the customer, we do very, very well because there are things about our solutions that are unique and we think make it quite special.

So we're excited about the outlook in the U.S. and in Canada as we look forward and think that the market is building and we're growing -- we have opportunity to grow significantly as we move forward.

That's helpful. And -- maybe on the AI sort of announcements, those were very interesting to hear as well.

It sounds like you're in different phases of deployment, depending on which AI service we're talking about, and they're monetized in different ways as well. But I'm just curious to hear your kind of perspective on what the financial impact could be for talking about this in a year or 2 years out?

Is this something customers have expressed interest in? And what is the upsell opportunity looks like for a transcription and answering service?

Yes, that's a good question. And it's one that we don't have a lot of experience with to give a very educated answer.

The statistics on small businesses being able to respond to their phone calls while they're doing everything else they do. suggests that there's a real need for these capabilities.

And given that our AI voice mail and AI transcription are going to be very competitively priced and I think very easy to set up and use. We're hopeful that a lot of our customers will find value and adopt them, and it will become an extra charge to our customers.

So from a revenue perspective, it's a boost for Ooma. Today, a single-digit percentage of our customers take Ooma Pro+, which is the highest tier of service we have -- and some of our AI services are going into that tier.

We'd like to think that with those services there and some education of our customer base, we could move that take rate up to double digit going forward. So there'll be a boost there as well.

It's hard to say, but I think we're all experiencing the power of AI in our businesses and there's no going back. There are going to be more features to come.

We've only announced the first 4 or 5 that are coming out now, but we have a road map out years to pursue. And we believe there's going to be a range of things we can do for small businesses.

it's really a special opportunity for us because all of that customer's communications, their phone calls, their messaging, are flowing through Ooma so we can help them analyze that data and be more proactive with it. So I think it's the start of a story for Ooma that we can unfold over the next couple of years.

Yes. Congrats on the quarter as well from me.

I wanted to better understand the drivers of the upside, just going back to your guide for Q1, the midpoint of your revenue expectation was $80 million even, and you exceeded that by $1.1 million. Is the big driver here, just the core business customers -- is it more AirDial?

What's the biggest driver of the upside.

Yes, thanks for the question. And the biggest driver of the upside was from AirDial.

And as we said when we guided for Q1 and for the year, we wanted to remain conservative in piece in particular because it's not always easy for us to predict the timing of installation even though the bookings and demand has been increasing. So we're cautious about that, and we're happy with the outcome a bit obviously exceeded by a good amount.

And I think that's the biggest piece of it. The other piece, as Eric pointed out in his remarks, too, but the residential didn't decline.

And again, that's another area that we plan conservatively and we actually didn't see a decline there. So that helped a bit as well in Q1 in relation to what we had expected at the beginning of the quarter.

So I would say those were the two biggest drivers and EDA being the biggest of it.

Okay. And then just the follow-on would be for this -- you've also left your outlook for the full year.

Do you expect -- does that refreshed guidance for FY '27. Does that anticipate both of these trends that you outlined persisting?

Or is it a Q1 was a bit of an anomaly, let's see how things play out in Q2.

I wouldn't say that Q1 was anomaly. Obviously, Q1 established.

Obviously, the Q1 is taste baseline sort of speed to begin the year, which is a great baseline by the way. And -- but in our guidance, I think you'll see when you work out the model, though, we still remain conservative relatively speaking, especially the pace of ramp on air dial because, again, for the same reason I said it just now that we want to remain conservative in predicting the timing of the installation of the lines.

Again, the booking has been strong. Like I said in my remarks, the booking in Q1 year-over-year grew 75%.

And that was like 3 or 4 quarters in a row. We had a growth write-down of bookings.

But again, timing of installation is still hard to predict, but we're optimistic, but we want to be conservative on that. And secondly, I don't know if you picked up, but I used to say in the guidance that residential is going to be down minus 1% to minus 2%.

But based on the recent trend, I improved that a little bit to say flat to minus 1%. Now we are going to see Walmart stores being started with MyPhones in the second half of the year.

We're being conservative on that. We don't know quite frankly how much a take rate is going to be as much as we are excited about it.

So there's a little bit of conservative build on that. So long story short, Eric, that we're still being conservative for looking here, given some of the nature of these businesses, AirDial and MyPhone in particular, that I just mentioned.

Congratulations on the quarter. I just wanted to dig in on Ooma AI.

I was doing the math a little bit on how much usage the customer is going to get for that $15.99 on AIsystem in the $49.99 on the receptionist -- and it seems like it's $0.38 a minute $0.50 for the receptionist. It'd be great to give us an understanding of what the COGS look like for something like that?

Is that going to be positive for your margins? Or is that something that's potentially going to hurt it?

And then -- the press release wasn't very specific on how the usage -- additional usage is going to be priced. So it would be great to get some clarity on that.

Yes. We'll price additional usage per minute is the way we do it.

And -- we -- if you look in the industry, you'll see prices that range quite a bit for these kinds of services. We think we're pretty competitive with the package we put together.

And actually, the AI answering machine is kind of a unique positioning in the market. You don't see that from others and it's a very useful capability at a lower price point than a full reception of service would be.

So it's a nice entry point for a small business as well to get started with some added capability. We're -- COGS wise, we are hosting internally the AI activities to transcribe calls summarized them and then work with the data.

We also do utilize some outside capabilities as well. And I can't tell you here exactly what our COGS are, but I can tell you that we think we'll be driving margins that are well in line with the margins we report overall.

Spectacular. And then just one quick follow-up on that.

I guess when I think about it, it feels like the amount of time that a customer spends on spends talking to is something that the business itself doesn't have a lot of control over. If I have 1 customer that apps along with it for the full 40 minutes, I've blown through my usage without getting a lot of value.

Is there any way that you guys manage that on your end? Or how do you think about that kind of conundrum.

Well, you're talking now about the answering service and the reception of service. The other -- people leaving voice mails or just all your conversations throughout the day are part of Pros.

So there's not a usage-based elements to that. For receptionist to answering services, people tend to leave a message of a minute or 2 at most and not really go on.

But I think different businesses will vary. And obviously, we're going to make this attractive to our customers.

So we may come out with other packages over time for high-power customers. you can enable these services on one line or many lines in the business as well.

So depending on how many numbers you have set up for -- reaching outside parties, you have flexibility there, too. I think that for a business that finds value in these services, I don't think our pricing is going to hold them back.

Great. It's great to hear about the progress our business development with AirDial's making.

Can you put any numbers behind your comments, for example, you mentioned AirDial lines service revenue, bookings, and more were up 75% to 80% and maybe that's not the exact range. Can you share what any of those numbers are for us?

Yes. I mean, the number we gave you is lines installed.

And that number was up -- sorry, a minute. We -- I said that lines installed were more than double that of a year ago.

and Shig said that bookings Bookings, go ahead, we're up over 75% -- and Yes. I mean that gives you some sense of how fast it's moving for us.

We expect it to be up again in Q2 and up each quarter throughout this year.

Sorry, what I meant was, are we going from 2,000 to 4,000 lines or going from 10,000 to 20,000. Double is hard to understand where we really are same with services revenue and bookings.

Or are you just not prepared yet, and there are 2 small numbers to share?

There are not too small numbers to share. We don't break out AirDial at maybe the level of granularity that you're asking for here.

But we are comfortably over how best do I want to say it...

Long way to think about it, sorry, Eric, Brian, to say is that we reported about 15,000 core business user growth from quarter-to-quarter. Majority of that was AirDial.

Got it. That's helpful.

And then are the sales cycles beginning to change? Is it just integrations are starting for bookings from several quarters ago.

What's changed over the last quarter or so that you're starting to see this inflection point, it sounds like on the demand side?

Well, I think it's the things I've said in my conference calls. There are more lines being shut down than ever before.

We have more partners reselling AirDial than ever before. We are seeing larger entities with many locations around the United States, get more and more focused on the need to do something and starting to take action.

. We are even seeing some of the partners we started working with our customers we won 6, 12 months ago, just go faster now -- it really varies by customer, but we're definitely seeing market movement.

Not surprisingly, there are millions of lines out there that are going to have to switch out over the next 2, 3 years. And so customers need to get in front of this.

It's an exciting time for us. I think for the next Three years, we're going to see AirDial as a very strong contributor to the business as the majority of lines go away.

Now having said all that, most of the lines going away today are from AT&T. There are others out there that have lots of lines, Verizon being one that are really not sunsetting many lines yet.

So depending on how those parties move forward, there's a long-term road map here for potlines needing to be replaced. So it's still, frankly, early days in the potline replacement business, I think, compared to where it's going.

And that's why we're seeing the market acceleration.

Great. Last question I have.

You talked about M&A. What are just some of the top priorities, maybe any details related to either technology?

What sells out your stock or geography where maybe you're lapping presence? Anything you can share on that would be great.

Sure. Happy to.

But neither of those are a particular concern to us. We viewed making smaller-sized acquisitions as a way to strategically grow Ooma cost effectively.

. And all three -- all -- if you look at our last 3 UCaaS acquisitions in fluenstream,phone.com and onset any business like those would be of interest to us or be in our target sweet spot.

It doesn't mean we wouldn't also look at other things or things that might broaden us in certain ways. But fundamentally, we're looking for cost-effective growth, increased scale, moving Ooma up to just be a larger business in the market.

And I think that when businesses that we're acquiring can be accretive 1 quarter out, which both Fluentstream and Phone.com were, it's a very viable strategy for us. So -- that's what we're trying to do.

And -- but the only constraint I'd say is we're focused in North America. We're not trying to expand geographically.

It's maybe quite a conjectural question, but I'll go there anyway. When you look at the family safety market, which actually would include predatory activity toward kids as well as not being too distracted by social media.

On the mobile side, I mean, it's an enormous TAM both in the U.S. and Europe as well.

I'm aware of one small software company that's trying to address that and now Horizon done some things in-house. But is there anything that you're doing that would be appropriate to that market?

Because I mean, clearly, there's some opportunity with my Phone, but if you had something comparable on the mobile side where you had both kind of a safety element and not walking too much to the car Asians element as well, it would certainly have a pretty a huge TAM in the market relative to MyPhone. Thanks.

Yes, that's an interesting area to think about. And there are certainly other things one can do and other things certain companies are doing.

Our focus today is MyPhone, which is specifically targeted at kids who have a defined list of others they want to be in touch with. And there's a bit of a viral impact to this because when your kid gets one, you want the other kids that are their friends to get them to and the parents get together and they discuss what they're going to do.

And it really is a nice way to give your kids some freedom and ability to interact with others but still know that they're not subject to all the challenges of social media and connectivity that comes with a smartphone. So it's a remarkably large movement.

We were talking just the other day about an organization in Washington -- the state of Washington in a particular location there, where there's actually a nonprofit that's giving out phones like this to try and get all the kids on something that's safer. It's a big deal.

We've also seen social media band in some countries for kids below a certain age, not the U.S., of course, but I'm thinking countries, I believe, if I'm remembering right, Spain was one of them that did that recently. So I think there's a real role for MyPhone.

And I can tell you that when we talk to retailers, our buyers at retail are often individuals with kids at home and they get it instantly when we start talking about the use case. If you've got a kid at home and you're facing these issues and you hear about what MyPhone is and what we're trying to do, it really resonates -- so as you can tell from Shig's guidance, our guidance, we don't really know what to expect for iPhone and we haven't put too much in the outlook for it.

But we are going to really put some marketing behind it, particularly through social media channels and influencers and see if we can't get a lot of parent interest in what we think is a great solution for younger kids. So that's really our focus.

And as we're successful with that, maybe we'll look more broadly from there.

Would you say that even if you didn't have anything in the hopper in terms of active developments or discussions, would you have a reason to believe that any of your technology would be readily transferable to the mobile side? Or is it just no visibility on that?

And in other words, it wouldn't be -- it would be an app -- I'm sorry.

Well, I don't want to get too specific or I don't know if you can hear me, but I don't want to try to get to specific on what we might be thinking about or what you're going towards. But we do have our mobile app called Talkatone.

-- and we're very aware of how mobile apps can be tailored to meet certain needs in the market. And so we have that technology in-house along with the technology that obviously creates the special features that my phone brings.

But yes, I think you're getting out ahead of where we are.

This is Matthew on for Josh. -- just to start off.

So on the product gross margin side, it came in at around like negative 30% on I'm wondering like how much of that is sustainable AirDial-Gen2 cost savings? And is negative 30% of like around there a good run rate going forward?

Yes. Matthew, this is Shay.

Thanks for the question. I do think, and I expect this right now is you're going to see a little bit worse product margin starting Q2 and rest of the year.

There are a couple of reasons. One would be the -- we're going to start to see the impact of the higher component prices, we may have talked about in the past a little bit.

So these are memory pieces. So it's not unique to Ooma per se.

But so those components go into tell a residential product and the AirDial. So we're going to start to see some impact of it starting Q2 and rest of the year.

Secondary, again, we're not putting too much MyPhone estimate into the forecast for -- to be conservative. But to the extent that we see those units shut into stores in the second half when we do realize them.

We are going to lose some money upfront, really, customer acquisition costs from my perspective. So -- for those 2 reasons, you're going to see a little bit worse product margin Q2 and particularly in the second half.

So long so short here that I think that for the whole year, we're estimating about minus 40% for the entirety of the year. So maybe you can model to that around that number.

Got it. That's helpful.

Okay. So then going into fiscal '28, right, after some of that second half weakness from launching more my phone products, like, I guess, how do you see that going from net 40 to I guess closer to 30%, like maybe 35%.

Yes. I mean I can't really predict yet of the -- but -- and I just -- nobody knows what the memory price is going either, right?

So it's hard for me to say -- but if you have to model something for 28, maybe you want to keep it on -- maybe I want to keep it on minus reflow.

Got it. And then -- so I guess you mentioned my phone.

I'm wondering like what the ARPU is looking like for MyPhone versus core Telo.

So MyPhone would be all premium subscription users when they sign up. So it will be accretive to our average residential ARPU, which is 9,000 change.

So it will be accretive to that number.

Great. Super helpful.

Last question for me. I know you guys had mentioned Verizon was still an active on bought shutdowns.

I'm just wondering, do you see any signals on when that might change? Maybe it might be second half of this year, maybe next year?

I'm wondering like as an upside lever what we should think about that?

I don't have any signals to share there now.

Well, thank you, everyone, for joining us today. We appreciate your time.

It's just 1 quarter into the fiscal year, but it's a good start. And we see lots of opportunity to go capture and we're going to execute our best to do it.

So thank you, everyone. Bye-bye.