Operator
Welcome to Energy Save Q1 2026 conference call. For the first part of the conference call, the participants will be in listen-only mode.
During the questions and answers session, participants are able to ask questions by dialing pound key 5 on their telephone keypad. Now I will hand the conference over to the speakers: CEO Yibo Zhao and CFO Helena Wachtmeister.
Please go ahead.
Yibo Zhao
Hello, thank you very much. This is my first time to be here as the title of the CEO of the company.
Today, me and Helena will walk you through the quarter one report together.
Helena Wachtmeister
Great. Thank you very much, Yibo.
Yes, and our first quarter of 2026, January to March, fell out in line with our expectations. We saw a continued higher net revenue on our own brand compared to the comparison quarter, that our own brand ES Energy Save.
In total, the net revenue decreased by 8% to 49.4 million SEK and decreased by 30% compared to the closest previous quarter. This was mainly due to us entering a new season of the year, which is affects us a lot in the residential segment where we are heavily invested currently.
The decrease in net revenue and turnover mainly derives from a weaker quarter in the ODM white-label sales. This is the sales that we have previously spoken about as OEM sales.
Yibo will elaborate a bit on this in a minute, but this is the same other brands than our own sales. The ODM white-label sales decreased by 27%, reaching 33.5 million SEK.
The ODM white-label sales was in line with our expectations here and was affected, as I said before, by seasonality. This seasonality caused a stock balancing with our ODM white-label customers.
This is a similar pattern as we saw last year and we'll continue to see entering into the second quarter of the year. On the other hand then, the sales with our ES Energy Save brand increased by 99% compared to the comparison quarter, reaching 15.9 million SEK compared to 8 million SEK last year, same quarter last year.
The ES Energy Save brand sales increased due to three reasons mainly: the launch of our new propane offering for commercial property, a 40 kW unit for the commercial segment; also we added new distributors to our partnership portfolio, and increased the activity level in promoting our R32 stock units. We totally saw a decrease in operating expenses by 4% compared to the first quarter of last year.
This is a stabilized OpEx that we are seeing now and have seen since the initiation of our savings program at the end of 2024. We do see a higher decrease in net revenue that has resulted in a negative EBIT in the quarter of -4.2 million SEK.
During this quarter, the board of directors appointed Yibo as our new CEO, and this was effective from the general assembly that was held on the 29th of April. At that same time at the annual general meeting, previous CEO Fredrik Sävenstrand was appointed as an operative chairman of the board in the company, but will continue to operate in the company as a strategic advisor.
Yibo Zhao
Exactly. This is my second week as the CEO, very excited to be here and also to deliver the value that we're aiming to deliver for the shareholders.
I want to start with clarification about the ES Group and ES Energy Save as a product brand. The reason for us to clarify the two different brands, the ES Group and ES Energy Save, is that ES Group is really about strengthening our platforms for existing and new ODM and white-label customers, which we previously referred as OEM.
OEM stands for original equipment manufacturer. ODM means original design manufacturer.
The reason we are changing the terminology is that our role is not just contract manufacturing. We develop, adapt, own the solutions, which our partner can then market under their brands.
ODM white-label describe better what we actually do and the added value we contribute with. We believe that we now have a stronger condition to continue developing this area further.
One good example of this is that we during the quarter further strengthened our collaboration with BlueBox by Swegon in the ODM white-label segment. This enables that BlueBox by Swegon can market their heat pumps based on our product platform under their own brand.
Also during the quarter, we introduced the first propane unit, as Helena was into before, for the commercial portfolio, and we are seeing immediate demand for that product. In the quarter, we have delivered more than in total 10,000 propane heat pumps to the market with incredibly low failure rate, gives us a very high confidence that we can continue to grow this in both ODM white-label, but ES Energy Save as a brand.
We did deliver the first product to the Saudi Arabia market. Looking forward, we see a weaker second quarter due to seasonality and stock balancing by the ODM white-label customer.
However, we see trends of market recovery. If planned orders materialize, we expect to approach break-even for the full year 2026.
Helena Wachtmeister
Thank you very much, Yibo, for the summary of the quarter. Net revenue and operating income, we are seeing changes here which is in line with our expectations.
The net revenue in total declined by 8%, reaching 49.4 million SEK in the quarter compared to 53.9 million SEK in the comparison quarter of last year. Operating income decreased by 7%, reaching 53.3 million SEK compared to 57.1 million SEK in the quarter.
The decrease from the closest previous quarter in Q4 '25 by 30% is mainly due to the fact that we are now entering into a new season, we are very heavily affected by this due to the fact that we are very invested in the villa segment, as we can see on this slide. The decrease in the quarter in total stems mainly from a decrease in the residential property segment, which amounts to 90% of our total net revenue in the quarter, reaching 44.5 million SEK compared to 49.5 million SEK in the comparison quarter of last year.
On the commercial property side, we saw an increase of 50%. This is an increase from very low levels, reaching 2.9 million SEK compared to 1.9 million SEK or 2 2 million SEK in the comparison quarter of last year.
This increase is still a very positive sign for us even though it's from low levels, since the sale in this segment is mainly our newly developed 40 kW propane ES Energy Save unit, which have been received very well by the market. The sales we are seeing here are a lot of initial samples or first purchases of one units that will likely increase during the rest of the year.
Yibo Zhao
Thank for the propane units, this is something that we did not have a portfolio for when it comes to the propane segments. Now we have that enables us to new for the businesses, and that will create new opportunities for us.
With this first unit, we have several products in our pipeline to further develop on, but for this unit, this gives us already entrance ticket to several discussion that we were not able to do before.
Helena Wachtmeister
Exactly. This is very positive.
The sales split on the brands, here we see, as we initially mentioned, a decrease on the ODM white-label side by 27%, reaching 33.5 million SEK in the quarter compared to 45.9 million SEK in the comparison quarter of last year. The ES Energy Save brand sales increased from 8 million in the comparison quarter, reaching 15.9 million in the first quarter of 2026, which is a very positive effect.
Yibo Zhao
Maybe I should just elaborate here a little bit on the different brand roots. ODM white-label, on this segment, we are going to the market through our ODM white-label customers brand, meanwhile on ES Energy Save, we are going to the market through distributors in over 30 countries with our own brand.
These are two different ways to market, which have different characteristics ways to market. We believe that we did an amazing job to grow the ES Energy Save with 99 almost doubling that, meanwhile the European Heat Pump Association said the market will grow with 17%...
Helena Wachtmeister
During the same time.
Yibo Zhao
...during the same quarter. It's also important we feel that our distributors are recovering and they're gaining confidence with the number of heat pumps we have delivered on the market with a very low failure rate.
We believe that our growth in the ES Energy Save will continue, meanwhile we're actively developing new customers on the ODM white-label segment.
Helena Wachtmeister
Very good. Sales split on the geographical side shows that we have had a big increase in the Scandinavian market mainly due to the fact that the comparison quarter of last year, 2025, had a very low number here, 1 million, compared then to 6.9 million SEK for the first quarter of 2026.
In Europe outside of Scandinavia, this is where the decline was seen, 20% down, reaching 42.5 million SEK in the quarter compared to 52.9 million SEK in the comparison quarter of last year. The number of sold heat pumps in the quarter reached 1,572.
This can be compared to the number of the first quarter of last year, 1,566, and the high number in the end of last year, 1,918 in the closest quarter to this previous quarter. All in all, we saw an OpEx decline in the quarter by 4%.
As I mentioned before, this is a sign now that our costs here are stabilizing after the savings package that we initiated in the end of 2024. We have seen this effect now for several quarters, and the effects here remain.
Other external costs decreased by 7%, reaching 10.2 million SEK compared to 11 million SEK in the comparison quarter last year. In the personnel expenses, we saw a very small decline, mainly the same level as the comparison quarter of last year.
The EBIT margin reached -8%, EBIT -4.2 million SEK, compared to the previous year's -3.9 million SEK or -4 million SEK. We are, as Yibo mentioned this on the first slide, we do expect to see some similar effects on the second quarter of this year that we have seen on the second quarter of last year.
However, we do think that if the orders that are now planned, if they materialize, we do have the opportunity to move closer to break-even for the full year of 2026. Also in the quarter, we had a positive effect on the gross margin, reaching 30% compared to last year's 28% in the comparison quarter.
Looking at the balance sheet, what stands out is a continued effect on our inventories decreasing here by 23%. Still, as it has been now for a couple of quarters, this is a net effect due to a decrease that comes from R32 units selling out of stock and an increase and renewed inventory from newly purchased R290 propane units with our new platform.
We are not only decreasing our inventory levels here in a way that we wish to, we are also renewing the stock here, making it a very sound and secure stock value for us. We are very ready now to sell these products to the European market, the propane.
Current receivables declined by 27%. We are seeing a similar effect on the liability side.
Then a decrease in cash and bank balances by 20% from the comparison quarter.
Yibo Zhao
May I add one thing on the inventories? There's a refrigerant ban on the previous refrigerants that are R32 and R410A.
The ban will starting by the 1st of January 2027.
Helena Wachtmeister
This ban is for
Yibo Zhao
placing... Placing on the market in EU basically means the same as importing
Helena Wachtmeister
to
Yibo Zhao
make a short summary of what that placing on the market is. It's still available to sell these units onto the market.
If they're already placed in the market, we can sell these until 2030. Those unit are still being demanded by our customers.
Here we have a close dialogue together with our customers how to manage the stock situation. We have a stock for them, for those partners who want to sell the R32 and R410A units, but also with new dialogues how we shifting more and more of the propane units.
Helena Wachtmeister
Very good, great clarification. Thank you.
I mentioned a bit about the cash flow. All in all, we have a positive cash flow for the quarter, 0.5 million SEK during the first quarter of 2026.
This can be compared to the first quarter of last year where we had a negative cash flow of 24,838,000, and a 20% decrease in in total outgoing cash and cash equivalents, 23.6 million SEK at the end of the period compared to 29.3 million SEK in the comparison quarter, at the end of the comparison quarter of last year.
Yibo Zhao
Let's summarize the quarter one. We have an increased ES Energy Save brand sales, while we did experience a decrease in the ODM white-label sales.
This we knew about and this we were prepared about. We introduced the first unit in the commercial propane portfolio, and we see an immediate demand.
I should mention again that this is very strategically important for us to have, as Helena was in before with the seasonality graphs. We do see most often we see a weaker first half-year, and that is due to seasonality in the villa segments.
We do see that the curve is more flat when it comes to commercial units, but now we are having the first unit in our portfolio for that segment in the propane platform. We're having some more products in pipeline for that segments.
We have delivered more than 10,000 heat pump to the market with very low failure rate.
Helena Wachtmeister
We have delivered more than 40,000 heat pumps.
Yibo Zhao
We have delivered more than 40,000 heat pump, but 10,000 propane heat pump with very low failure rate. We had a workshop together with our distributors, and they feel that they are very confident about the quality of our renewed product platform, starting from the propane unit.
That is also part of the reason we see an increase in the ES Energy Save brand. We have also explored new market to Saudi Arabia market.
We have tested units and have good feedback, we're continuing that dialogue and see how we can explore that collaboration deeper. Also we signed another ODM white-label customer, BlueBox by Swegon, in this segment.
Moving forward, me as the CEO, I will focus my time and energy to promote the sales in our activities in growing our company, meaning we are increasing our growth in the sales, meanwhile we are keeping down the costs, having high cost discipline. We are, as we said before, we are expecting a seasonal downturn in the second quarter 2026.
We will continue with activities in both ODM and white-label partnerships as well as ES Energy Save for its distribution network. We do see positive trends now in the political focus, where now it's very urgent for EU to build resilience in the European domestic heating, as it become more and more that the different resource prices have been gone quite jeopardized over the past two months.
We do see that there's increased stress among the European politicians to build a green resilience. We see there are market opportunities for us there as well.
If the planned order materialize, we expect to approach a full-year break-even during 2026.
Helena Wachtmeister
With that summary from our newly appointed CEO, we will now move into the Q&A part. Tack Helena.
Thank you.
Operator
If you wish to ask a question, please dial pound key 5 on your telephone keypad to enter the queue. If you wish to withdraw your question, please dial pound key 6 on your telephone keypad.
The next question comes from Lara Mohtadi from ABG Sundal Collier. Please go ahead.
Lara Mohtadi
Hi. Just a couple of questions from my end.
My first one is sort of on your outlook commentary. On the outlook for Q2, you guided for weaker volumes, but you also stated that you anticipate a rebound going into the second half of the year.
What specific indicators are giving you this confidence for the recovery in the second half of the year? Is it primarily contracted ODM, WL volumes, or is it maybe also order trends in the ES branded sales?
Yibo Zhao
I think it's part of both. We have a contract volume with the ODM white-label customer the contract is until the end of this year.
We also have seen positive trends for the ES both when it comes to the confidence in ES Energy Save brand, but also the momentum we're seeing now among our distributors.
Helena Wachtmeister
This is, of course, a momentum that is both for the residential segment, where there is an increase already, both in our sales and in the sales in Europe and in the EU, but also from the commercial segment where we have only seen the start of the possibilities in volumes for our ES Energy Save brand.
Lara Mohtadi
Great. You touched a bit on the commercial market, but just on the broader market here, your commercial sales were up year-on-year, but they're still on a very low base and remain quite a small piece of the pie.
You highlighted the accelerating sales of your 40 kW R290 heat pumps. Are you also seeing any concrete signs that the broader commercial market is improving?
What should we sort of view as the realistic timing or timelines for this segment to actually scale?
Yibo Zhao
We do believe that on the 40 kW, we're we're now entering, we delivered the first unit in quarter one, and then we are continue having a dialogue with how to further grow in that segment. Right now, we are experiencing that those are actually selling better than us anticipated we were supposed to do.
Now we are having a close dialogue to bring a better predictability. The 40 kW are more or in commercial segment, those are normally more predictable compared to the residential unit that is more of end-consumer opportunistic business, to say.
Helena Wachtmeister
Seasonality-wise, a more even flow of sales to be expected.
Yibo Zhao
Yes. When it comes to commercial units, there's most often there's a real estate that needs to be renovated for the new heat pump, and they need to consult with an HVAC designer who knows that at a coming time in the future, they need to make a project to develop that or renovate that building.
There's a larger timeline to work with, meanwhile when it comes to the residential heat pump, it more opportunistic where there is one consumer who want to buy a heat pump, and he goes to his heat pump reseller and ask for a quote. This is more residential sales is that's predictable, meanwhile commercial side is more predictable.
Now we're entering several longer dialogues with the commercial segments with the new propane unit that we were not able to have before we had that product in the portfolio.
Helena Wachtmeister
Exactly. Now we have the product, we have the customers.
That being said, also of course the commercial side, being a bit more even and sales-wise, it's also a bit longer time from the to the sales point...
Yibo Zhao
Yes, from the initial dialogue until when we actually deliver the products, because there are different technical parameters that need to be solved out, it's a bit different sales...
Helena Wachtmeister
We do expect an increase in turnover. We expect an even increase over the year.
Yibo Zhao
Yes.
Lara Mohtadi
Okay. Very clear.
Thank you. Just a question on the BlueBox by Swegon agreement.
Can you maybe talk about how this agreement is ramping up? Is it primarily a contributor from next year, or do you expect it to have impact already now in the second half of this year?
Yibo Zhao
We're expecting to deliver the first unit within the quarter two or quarter three this year. We're aiming to deliver those to Swegon by quarter two, but that is a project, we are working together with them to introduce the unit to them.
From their side, they will market it on the second half of the year to their customers.
Lara Mohtadi
Okay. How does the scale of this agreement maybe compared to the existing R32 Swegon business?
Helena Wachtmeister
The risk now, this is...
Yibo Zhao
I should say that this is the first or this is the another white-label project. We are shaping our organization to build capabilities to taking more and more of these companies that are want ODM or white-label.
We do see there is increasing query of having a good platform that they want to go to buy from a European manufacturer of heat pumps and has a digital solution, digital ecosystem to integrate their technologies in. Swegon itself, we cannot comment specifically on that customer, because that is information that is belongs to our customer.
Helena Wachtmeister
Yes, again, we don't comment on the specifics of just one customer. That, yeah, that is correct.
What we are really positive about is that this is the first of possibly several ODM white-label partnerships in the same category or larger. This specific order it won't affect our finances in a major way.
Yibo Zhao
Swegon, we have delivered R32 to them before. I think the timing was quite good, because once we introduced the ES Group, we also aligned with the agreement with them.
Timing-wise, this is very good. We'll also be able to set the organization to handle more of this kind of dialogues.
Lara Mohtadi
Okay. Thank you, that was clear.
Just a last one from me. Services and after sales actually doubled from 2024 to 2025, still from a lower base, but with the JS Energi spare parts partnership, you're describing this segment as kind of sort of an integral to sales or training rather than your traditional support function.
Could you maybe talk a bit about the medium-term ambitions for the services and after sales segments? What sort of role do you want this to play for the group going forward?
Yibo Zhao
I think services are not our main core, because our main core strategy is to develop products so they are not need to be repaired or fixed, which we also can see in the numbers of the 10,000 heat pump we have delivered. Of course, if somebody has a trouble with the heat pump, they need to be able to fix that.
Our ES Group, we're not a B2C business, which mean that we have handled historically several of these issues, but our business set-up is on B2B level. Therefore, we have entered collaboration with JS Energi so the consumers who have product that needs a spare part can get that within short time.
Helena Wachtmeister
Exactly. It's an
Yibo Zhao
improved service level,
Helena Wachtmeister
especially against the Nordic markets where we would like to increase our presence sales-wise, more of a net sales effect really.
Yibo Zhao
Yes. This also helps to synchronize our resources on our core, which is growing on the ODM business, also grow on the ES Energy Save distribution network.
Lara Mohtadi
Okay. That was very helpful.
That was all from my end, thank you very much.
Helena Wachtmeister
Thank you very much,
Yibo Zhao
Laura.
Operator
As a reminder, if you wish to ask a question, please dial pound key 5 on your telephone keypad. There are no more questions at this time, I hand the conference back to the speakers for written questions and closing comments.
Helena Wachtmeister
Yes, and also we have a couple of written questions that we would like to address here. We have a question here about sales in Europe in the first quarter here.
Let me see. There has been articles about surge of heat pumps in sales in the market, and there is a participant that would like to hear about our view on the heat pump market for the remainder of 2026 and how subsidies in different countries will accelerate sales for our ES brand.
This is a very interesting question, because we are seeing, of course, the same and following this. The heat pump market has been in decline for 2 years during 2023 and 2024.
We've seen a smaller increase during 2025. During this time, we have expected, and many many of us have expected, a faster turnaround in the market, since this is a market with an underlying growth that will reappear at some point.
We believe that the trends now are very clear and a lot more backed up by political initiatives than it has been during this past couple of years, where the Heat Pump Action Plan was planned, but they never went through with the Heat Pump Action Plan. Now we are seeing a lot of clear political communications about this, the EU Commission has clarified that there is now a pronounced goal to reach four 4 million heat pumps in annual sales within the EU in 2030.
That is from today's level of 2.6, and this will be done by balancing out the pricing of electricity versus gas. That can be done by reducing the VAT on heat pumps and reducing tax on electricity.
These initiatives will benefit the heat pump market very much likely. Also this clarity from the legislative from the EU will, of course, make it easier and more natural for individual nations to continue in clarity with their subsidy programs.
This will likely be how do you call it, like a wave effect from the subsidies, from regulatory in the EU and out to the member countries. We believe that this can have a great effect on our ES Energy Save sales.
Yibo Zhao
I think also that we should put in consideration here what journey we have been through, what the market has been through. 2022, everybody vacuum-cleaned the market on the heat pumps.
That resulted, starting from 2023, the European market has been overstocked with heat pumps. Now gradually, we're seeing that it's becoming more like healthy stock situation on the European market.
Starting from 2023, 2024, and also 2025, we're also seeing that there increase level of demand of the product for the heat pumps. The product is getting better and better.
Also with the latest Industrial Accelerator Act that is aimed to be implemented 2030, it will be make more difficult to purely trade that heat pumps coming from Asia. That is that first, the level is getting higher of the heat pumps, meanwhile European also going to raise the subsidies, say that we want made-in-European manufacture.
We are quite well positioned with our factory in Turkey to accelerate that, meanwhile also have shown the confidence in our volume and quality of the propane unit we have.
Helena Wachtmeister
Exactly. Thank you for that.
Next question here then: "You are talking about a name change from calling yourself Energy Save and starting to call yourself ES Group. What does this mean?"
Yibo Zhao
I have worked many years in Volvo Group, and it's just the similar philosophy we're taking to Energy Save as with the ES Group. Volvo Group, they have different truck brands: Volvo Trucks, they have Renault Trucks, they have Mack Trucks, to mention a few.
All of the same trucks are built on the same truck platform. The same philosophy we're adopting here is all the heat pump we're manufacturing, we're delivering to market are based on ES Group's technology, IP, competence, ecosystem on the digital side.
They might come out from different channels to the market. There's one channel, which is ES Energy Save brand; there's another channel, for example Swegon; there's a third channel, could be a different brand.
Making the difference in the brand, we can easier communicate with the target customer we want to have a dialogue with.
Helena Wachtmeister
Right. We have a question here.
I'm going to just translate while speaking. The residential heat pumps was up 25% in the first quarter where Poland, UK, and France was very strong market, this is on the market side, but our turnover is decreasing and instead increasing the number of sold heat pumps by only 0.4%.
Let's see here. The question is here: what is the plan for the rest of the year to be able to reach growth in what appears to be a very beneficial climate for heat pumps?
We believe this will be a year with a very beneficial climate for heat pumps, that is correct. The reason that our sales in this quarter are decreasing on the ODM white-label side is due to stock balancing from ODM white-label customers.
That's the largest effect really affecting net revenue
Yibo Zhao
in this quarter. Maybe I can elaborate a little bit here.
If we say we take ES Energy Save brand as example, here we do help our distributor to stock-keep this. We deliver to this when they want this unit to their warehouse in order to get the opportunistic business, for example, or before they have a planned installation for the commercial units.
Here we have quite good dialogue with our ES own branded units. We of course, we need to keep a stock for them to get more businesses.
On the ODM white-label side, we don't stock-keep unit for them. They need to do their own stock planning, stock-keeping.
We have a downturn in in in quarter one that is again is based because of our ODM white-label customers. They are stock balancing, they are planning for their own stock.
They believe they have sufficient stock for the for their first quarter, and they didn't want to increase the stock as they're getting ready for a for a increased seasonality on the second quarter on the second half-year. We should remember that on the villa side, it's more seasonal effects rather than a commercial side.
Helena Wachtmeister
Exactly. That is very correct.
Since we have the opportunity during this year to increase the sales on the commercial side, we also have the opportunity to somewhat mitigate that seasonality for the following years.
Yibo Zhao
Yes. If I get that question, there is also the question why we increase the sold heat pumps while the turnover is decreasing.
The reason for that is because there is a different product mix that have been sold compared to last year.
Helena Wachtmeister
That is correct. Exactly.
Yibo Zhao
Meanwhile I should say that actually we lifted our margin from
Helena Wachtmeister
28%
Yibo Zhao
to 30%. We're increasing our margins and we are increasing the volume of heat pump we are getting out on the market.
Helena Wachtmeister
Absolutely. Yeah.
Maybe because we are getting a lot of questions about we are getting a lot of questions about like estimated sales or or just what will we how can we affect sales on on our side. I think Yibo has mentioned in in his in the in the presentation now, but maybe we should clarify that that the focus on sales this year is is we always focus on sales, but this year we have a very strong focus on developing our customer base in the ODM white-label segment where we have an amazing opportunity.
We have a developed product platform that can easily take interested customers that want to develop their own brand towards the market. We can fairly with low risk and and and a fairly speedy process take them to market and have a full supply chain and design capability ready.
These customers can can integrate with our platform on with any on the level of their own choosing. They can be it can be a full-blown design collaboration, it can also be a straight-off white-label delivery and a shorter time.
This opportunity with the Aira case that we have now is a very strong offer to the market. This is the sales in this segment is one of our major focus areas right now.
Yibo Zhao
Yes. Yes.
Helena Wachtmeister
As well as developing sales for the ES Energy Save brand, where we have seen effects in this quarter, a double of sales. We are launching the propane commercial product also, first of several in a line that will be launched during this year.
Yeah. Just a bit of clarification for our sales plan really, moving forward.
Okay. Yes, I think we have a question about prices.
I think you covered that. I think we covered all the questions now, right?
No, there is one very important one, we have seen perhaps, but really is a good one to perhaps send us off on. "So Yibo, you have now been the CEO for two weeks.
What will you focus on? What will be your focus in your leadership?"
Yibo Zhao
I think we can summarize what we have discussed here. I will focus my time to grow in our company, both when it comes to grow together with new and existing ODM white-label customers, meanwhile growing on the ES Energy Save brand.
I should also mention that to grow this and making this company profitable, we should have high cost discipline. The ambition is to grow us into profitable company in the coming years.
Focus now, building the good platform base we have, growing that together with partnerships on the market, accelerating the product, because we are really confident about the posture we now have.
Helena Wachtmeister
Very good. Thank you.
With that, I don't think we have any more questions we haven't addressed. With that, we would like to thank you very much for participating and for listening in today.
We will see you again in yeah, 3 months' time approximately.
Yibo Zhao
Thank you very much.
Helena Wachtmeister
Thank you.
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