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Q4 FY2026 · Earnings Call TranscriptMay 8, 2026

Kyoko Sekine

We will now begin NTT Inc.' s financial results briefing for FY2025.

Thank you very much for joining us today despite your busy schedules. I am Sekine from Public Relations and will serve as the moderator.

Thank you. Let me first introduce today's three speakers: Akira Shimada, President and CEO, Representative Director; Toshihiko Nakamura, SVP and Director of Finance and Accounting Department; Akitoshi Hattori, SVP and Director of Corporate Strategy Planning Department.

Please note that today's materials were uploaded to the NTT official website at 1:00 PM, please check them as well. Now we would like to start.

President Shimada, please.

Akira Shimada

Thank you very much for your attendance today. I am Shimada, President of NTT Inc.

Let me explain our FY2025 consolidated results and FY2026 results forecast. Following the explanation of the financial results, I will explain our initiatives for medium-term profit growth and the revision of our financial targets.

For FY2025, both operating revenue and profit increased year-on-year on a consolidated basis. Operating revenues reached a new record high.

Operating revenue increased by ¥704.4 billion year-on-year, reaching ¥14,409.1 billion, thanks to the extension of enterprise business of group companies, growth in the smart life business, and increased revenue from transferring data centers into REIT. Regarding profit, EBITDA was ¥3,423.3 billion, up by ¥184 billion year-on-year, and operating profit was ¥1,706.2 billion, up by ¥56.7 billion year-on-year, thanks to increased profit from the extension of enterprise business at group companies, increased profit in the smart life business, and from transferring data centers into REIT.

Despite costs for measures to strengthen DOCOMO's customer base and improve mobile network quality, profit increased by ¥37 billion year-on-year to ¥1,037 billion, mainly due to the increase in operating profit. Regarding revenue and profit by segment: Integrated ICT Business Segment.

Although consumer communications business decreased due to a decline in mobile communications service revenue, operating revenue increased year-on-year thanks to the growth of smart life business, centering on finance and enterprise business. While profit increased in smart life and enterprise businesses, operating profit decreased year-on-year due to costs associated with measures to strengthen the customer base and improve network quality.

As a result of efforts to strengthen the customer base, MNP improved from the previous year and was positive except for Q2, which was affected by the discontinuation of small data volume plans. Global Solutions Business Segment.

Despite a revenue decrease of approximately ¥35 billion due to foreign exchange, revenue and profit increased year-on-year thanks to business growth both in Japan and abroad and increase from transferring data centers into REIT. Regional Communications Business Segment.

Despite a decrease in legacy business revenue, both revenue and profit increased year-on-year thanks to revenue increase in enterprise and fiber-optic business. Furthermore, the net addition in fiber-optic service subscribers increased year-on-year due to strengthened sales of 10 gigabit plans and all apartment units plans for the condominium market.

Others, Real Estate and Energy. Despite the expansion of the housing business in urban solutions, revenue increased year-on-year, but profit decreased due to the recording of impairment losses in ENENOD Energy in light of changes in the external environment, such as rising interest rates and construction costs.

Next, I will explain FY2026 results forecast. For FY2026, operating revenue, EBITDA, and operating profit will increase year-on-year, and profit will decrease.

We plan for increased operating revenue across all segments, primarily in our Integrated ICT Business and Global Solutions Business, aiming for a record high level. EBITDA and operating profit will increase year-on-year thanks to the expansion of our enterprise business and smart life business, mainly in finance, despite the continued decline in network revenue.

Profit will decrease year-on-year due to increased interest payments and others. Regarding revenue and profit by segment: In Integrated ICT Business Segment, operating revenues will increase year-on-year and operating profit will be flat thanks to the expansion of the smart life business, primarily finance, and the growth of the corporate business, despite a decrease in mobile communications service revenue.

Furthermore, efforts to improve network quality will continue and be strengthened, and in sales, we plan to build a stronger customer base centered on long-term users through docomo MAX, among others. Global Solutions Business Segment.

While revenue and profit continued to increase thanks to business growth both in Japan and abroad, operating revenues will increase and operating profit will decrease year-on-year due to transfer of data centers into REIT in FY2025. Regional Communications Business Segment.

Despite a decrease in legacy business revenue, revenue and profit will increase year-on-year thanks to increased fiber-optic service revenue and reduced expenses from the rebound effect of future cost mitigation measures implemented in NTT West in FY2025. Others, Real Estate and Energy.

Operating revenues will increase year-on-year thanks to increased revenue from the expansion of the data center engineering business in urban solutions, as well as the rebound effect from impairment losses in ENENOD Energy in FY2025. Next is shareholder returns.

At today's Board of Directors meeting, we resolved to set the year-end dividend for FY2025 at ¥2.65 as projected. Furthermore, we resolved annual dividend forecast of ¥5.4 for FY2026, an increase of ¥0.1 year-on-year.

This will mark our 16th consecutive year of dividend increases since FY2011. In addition, to improve capital efficiency and enhance shareholder returns, we will carry out a share buyback program up to ¥200 billion.

Next, I will explain our initiatives toward medium-term profit growth. The contents are as outlined.

First, I will explain the review of our medium-term financial targets for medium-term profit growth. Regarding the current medium-term financial target of EBITDA of ¥4 trillion for FY2027, our growth areas are steadily expanding profit through aggressive investment and achievement of results.

On the other hand, profit decreased in existing areas due to responses to changes in the business environment, such as strengthening the customer base and increasing traffic. As a result, consolidated EBITDA is below expectations, making it difficult to achieve the target for FY2027.

In light of these changes in the business environment, we will change our growth areas to value-added areas focusing on AI, which is expected to further expand our business and significantly increase our profits. Furthermore, as an immediate initiative, while maintaining cash generation capabilities through profit stabilization, we will rename our existing areas to connectivity areas and promote the transformation to AI-native infrastructure.

Together with the value-added areas, we aim to achieve an EBITDA of ¥4 trillion by FY2030. In addition, we will continue strategic upfront investment in areas with promising future growth to achieve sustainable profit growth.

Next, I will explain seven specific initiatives aimed at achieving an EBITDA of ¥4 trillion by FY2030, categorized into three areas, which are: value-added areas, connectivity areas, and strategic upfront investments to support continued growth. First, I will explain three initiatives in the value-added areas.

The first initiative is expanding the domestic corporate business by maximizing customer value. In light of the rapid advancements in AI, it is anticipated that business model will shift from those that rely on traditional human resources to those that are driven by customer value.

By capturing this change and leveraging the human resources created by NTT DATA through the introduction of AI, we can extend these resources to customers of docomo business that have a broader customer base than NTT DATA. This will enable us to provide high value-added integration to a wider range of customers.

Furthermore, by combining NTT DATA and NTT DOCOMO business's products and services, we will expand our customer value-driven business by providing a sovereign compliant full-stack AI businesses. Through these initiatives, we aim to achieve EBITDA of ¥1.2 trillion for our domestic corporate business by FY2030.

Next, I will explain acceleration of the growth of our overseas business with a focus on AI and data centers. In our IT services business, we will create AI-native businesses utilizing NTT DATA AI Vista and promote the expansion of our inorganic capability mainly in the AI domain.

Furthermore, our data center business, in light of a robust demand, will continue to make gross investments centered on the cloud and AI inference domains, primarily targeting hyperscaler customers. Through these initiatives, we aim to achieve EBITDA of ¥600 billion for our overseas corporate business by FY2030.

As our third initiative, I will explain further expansion of personal business with a focus on financial services. With NTT DOCOMO Financial Group scheduled to be established in July of this year at its core, we will grow our financial customer base with payments and banking as a starting point, and expand our revenues by promoting investment loans and other utilization.

Furthermore, by combining one of the largest membership bases in Japan, d ACCOUNT member's usage data and the vast amount of data generated daily on the network with AI, we will strengthen the competitiveness of our personal agents and marketing solutions. Through these initiatives, towards 2030, we aim to achieve EBITDA of ¥500 billion with our financial business driving the entire smart life business.

Next, I will explain our initiatives in the connectivity areas. I will explain our vision for transition to AI-native next-generation infrastructure.

In the future, AI computational processing will shift from being learning-centric to real-time inference-centric, and the primary focus of communication will expand from person-to-person to things-to-things and further to AI-to-AI and robot-to-robot, leading to an explosive increase in transactions. In response to these changes, NTT will first focus on conversion to AI-native infrastructure, AI-IOWN, which optimizes various resources such as GPUs, networks, and power to realize a secure usage environment and integrated operations, including NBH, first starting in Japan.

This will enable full-scale business deployment in the 2030s. Next, I will explain our efforts towards realization of AI-IOWN as a next-generation AI-native infrastructure.

To date, under the IOWN concept, we have been working on the social implementation of the all-photonics network and photo-electric conversion devices. The IOWN APN will be rolled out to all prefectural capitals by FY2027 in line with equipment upgrades of the existing services.

Furthermore, towards 2030, we aim to expand nationwide by creating use in various industries. In addition, we will accelerate the IOWN social implementation by expanding the ecosystem of photonics and photo-electric conversion devices through collaboration with diverse partners and who possess advantages and competitiveness in each of the fields.

Next, I will explain our near-term initiatives in the connectivity areas, specifically maintaining cash generation capacity by stabilizing telecommunications business profit. In our consumer communications business, we aim to maintain profit levels by strengthening customer engagement and evolving our products to maintain the number of subscribers and improve ARPU, as well as by working to improve productivity through the use of AI.

Regarding the migration to alternative services using fiber-optic and mobile technologies for fixed-line telephones, which began a pilot program in some areas in April of this year, we will continue to provide careful support to ensure a smooth transition. In some of the areas where we have started the migration to alternative services in fiber-optic and mobile technologies for fixed-line telephones, we will continue to provide careful support to ensure smooth transition.

Finally, I will explain our strategic upfront investments to support continued growth. In the mobility sector, and space and optical quantum computing, we will be focusing our efforts in these areas.

In the mobility sector, we will continue to provide services such as autonomous driving support through NTT Mobility and accelerate our efforts to realize infrastructure-collaborative mobility AI platform in collaboration with Toyota Motor. In space, utilizing IOWN technology, we are to establish technologies so that we are to really have the integration of space and ground and in the disaster prevention areas, we will really expand our businesses.

As for the optical quantum computing, we will collaborate with OptQC to develop a world-class optical quantum computer and aim for early commercialization. By continuing strategic growth investments in these areas, we will strive to achieve sustainable profit growth beyond FY2030.

Our mid-term financial targets are as shown. As I explained earlier, we aim to achieve ¥4 trillion in EBITDA, our main indicator, by FY2030.

Furthermore, excluding the financial business, we plan to set a target for ROIC and work towards improving capital efficiency. As for the non-financial indicators related to sustainability, there are no changes to our targets.

Regarding shareholder returns, we will continue our existing policies with the basic principle being to implement steady increase in dividends, and we'll also strive to improve capital efficiency by flexibly conducting share buybacks. Due to increased funding demand, interest-bearing debt has expanded recently, but our policy is to ensure a certain level of financial soundness in the mid-term.

By 2030, we will work to generate cash so that we can reduce our interest-bearing debt to EBITDA ratio, excluding financial businesses, to approximately 3.5 times. The EBITDA breakdown by business segment is as shown here.

Lastly, with this revision, the NTT Group's previously stated Medium-Term Management Strategy will be pursued under the name New Value Creation & Sustainability 2030 Powered by IOWN. This concludes my presentation.

Thank you. Now

Kyoko Sekine

we would like to take questions from the media, the journalists. First, we'll take questions from those present in the venue.

If you have a question, please raise your hand. Our staff members will bring you a microphone, please state your company name, media name, and your name before asking your question.

Due to time constraints, please limit your questions to one or two per person. We will now begin taking questions.

The person behind the gentleman, the person behind, please.

Mitsuhiro Toma

Thank you for the explanation. Toma from NHK.

My question is on financial results. Regarding the results forecast, next fiscal year profit you expect to decline.

Your medium-term financial target is also being pushed out, postponed somewhat, EBITDA ¥4 trillion for FY2030, you revised. What is the reason?

Is it DOCOMO's financial results? Is that the main reason?

That's how I see it. Am I correct?

Once again, could you elaborate, President Shimada, on where DOCOMO stands and towards the recovery, what are the key priority areas for its recovery?

Akira Shimada

Thank you, Tohma-san. As you rightly said, mobile business environmental change led to the revision of our medium-term financial targets, a medium-term strategy.

Last year and the year before that, DOCOMO strengthened its customer base and made investments to improve the network quality, and so that pushed down its profit. In this time forecast, consumer business still expected to decline, profit is declining, but the enterprise profit will increase and will offset the shortfall so that the overall profit can increase.

This is what we have to achieve. Now, we want to continue making a turnaround.

We are two years behind now. Implementation is progressing rapidly.

Last year, AI-related revenue was targeted at ¥150 billion, but we ended at ¥180 billion. AI-centered business strategy needs to be introduced.

In addition, regarding infrastructure, we need to shift to AI-based infrastructure. That is why we revisited our medium-term strategy.

It will take some time, the ¥4 trillion EBITDA target will be set now as fiscal year 2030, but we want to achieve this target as soon as possible. Thank you.

Kyoko Sekine

We will take the next question. Yes, the person in the very front row.

Katsuhide Mizushima

Mizushima from Nikkan Kogyo Shimbun. Because of the higher cost, what are the impact you are experiencing, and interest rate is increasing, and because of the Middle East situations, inflation is expected to accelerate.

For FY2026, what is your view of the potential impact? Particularly as for the electricity charge increase and also the labor cost increase.

What would be the potential impact you are expecting?

Akira Shimada

Exactly as you said, we hope that the Middle East situations will return back to peaceful normal times as quickly as possible. I think there is quite a significant impact from Middle East circumstances.

We can't be optimistic with respect to the power changes. Basically, it is driven by LNG, and so dependency on oil is not that much because it is not being used for power generation.

Relatively speaking, that impact might be smaller, but we should be cautious and have to keep watching. In addition to that, energy cost as well as the labor cost tends to become higher.

Within our mid-term plan, we haven't factored in some pass-through of such cost increase. We really have to consider specific timing.

Because while the cost itself is increasing, and so whether we will pass that on to the customers or not, that should be considered. At this point in time, we haven't factored that into our plan yet.

Thank you.

Kyoko Sekine

To my left, yes, please.

Kenji Shimizu

Shimizu from Nikkei Newspaper. Thank you very much.

I have two questions. First is on IOWN.

In your medium-term plan, this is a key focus area. The existing data center business is, I think, included, but IOWN's profit increase impact, what is the positive impact from IOWN, if you can quantify that?

EBITDA by FY30, 2030, new ¥4 trillion target, how much will IOWN be representing?

Akira Shimada

IOWN profit increase or revenue increase is difficult to quantify, but one is IOWN 1.0. As I said earlier, it is embedded in APN.

It's already started. We will deploy this as infrastructure and recoup the investment.

The PEC, photonic electronic convergence in optical devices, it needs to be deployed. We are at that timing now.

This year, FY26 or FY27 will be the starting year. The optical device market size is said to be around ¥1 trillion.

We want to take a sizable portion of that. In any case, this is a market that will start very soon, this PEC, photonic electronic convergence, we want to gain the good business there.

In our medium-term strategy, it will be in the second half of the period. The revenue will be realized in the second half, and we want to prepare ourselves to make that happen.

Digital twin will be similar in terms of progress. AI-related digital twin market will expand.

With those three, AI-IOWN will be established, I think the revenue will be recorded going forward. Thank you.

Kenji Shimizu

My second question is about PEC. NVIDIA has announced its investment plan recently, and the overseas players are now becoming very aggressive.

Under such circumstances, the semiconductor players have the decision-making power on which device to introduce. What is your positioning in the PEC, the photonic electronic convergence device?

Akira Shimada

This PEC device, the biggest users are hyperscalers. Hyperscalers and the surrounding various vendors are saying that it's now an era of optics, and so they're taking various actions.

NTT Group's innovative device products are in essence already starting, and not many have started yet. Our device is now being evaluated highly, and we want to gain inroads into the market going forward.

Thank you very much.

Kyoko Sekine

We would like to take one more question from the venue. Endo from Yomiuri Shimbun.

As for the HR and DOCOMO financial president, and so Hiroi-san will become the president. Financial services is positioned as the very core in the Mid-Term Management Plan.

If you could make any comment as to this HR. Within the Mid-Term Management Plan or strategy by FY2030, on EBITDA basis, we would like to triple that number in terms of the financial businesses.

This is going to be a driver for our future growth.

Akira Shimada

Mr. Hiroi is well-versed and has much of the insight in financial areas, and so we hope that he will be leading the steady and smooth growth in this area.

Data Group, Mr. Sasaki is going to be replacing Hiroi-san.

Also the DATA within the Mid-Term Management Strategy, as has been mentioned, there is this much of the growth potential in the mid-term. Particularly in domestic corporate business.

If I can just make comments related to that, in Japan, ¥100 billion revenue or more, there are approximately 2,000 companies with that kind of the sales size. Then 500 of them are DATA's customers.

For DOCOMO business, 90-some percentage is their customers. They are really generating almost the same level of the revenue side from these big-size clients.

DATA itself, how they are really being engaged with each of the client business, they are really having a very in-depth engagement. Of course, there are some sort of the duplication and overlapping, but at least the market is three times as that much, and it is still to be tapped.

For DATA, we were not able to really secure the resources up until now. It was quite challenging for them to really provide support to these customers.

Furthermore, we are really going to leverage AI, and so we are to really have the high utilization of SEs and to really go into the businesses of the customers with whom we were not able to really have the business transactions. Sasaki-san has such a knowledge and experience, and so inclusive of the overseas business side, we are expecting him to take the lead.

Also domestic business and global businesses have been connected under his leadership, and so we hope that he will take advantage of that experience. It cannot be just done by NTT DATA alone, and so we will be working together with them as the holding company.

Kyoko Sekine

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Any questions? To my right, yes, in short sleeve, please.

Toyo Keizai, Tayama is my name. I have two questions.

First is on your medium-term strategy. FY23, you announced the previous plan.

The growth investment was ¥8 trillion. This time, I do not see the investment amount.

What is the size you are thinking of, or if you do not have the numbers, reason you are not mentioning numbers this time?

Akira Shimada

No particular reason. As I said at the outset, the overall FY26 to 2030, we are planning on ¥12 trillion investment.

In the value-added area, the growth area, ¥7.5 trillion to ¥8 trillion investment. In connectivity areas, we need to change the infrastructure platform, so that will be ¥4.5 to ¥5 trillion, so that's total ¥12 trillion.

The domestic corporate AI implementation or new system buildout will require around ¥2 trillion investment. Global, including data center, around ¥3.5 trillion investment.

Consumer, financial institutions or security firms, we have acquired quite a few companies, we have done pretty much, but around ¥0.5 trillion, ¥500 billion. Other growth areas, another ¥1.5 trillion, which we will think flexibly.

Of course, the investment in Hibiya building is one, we will consider all these options as we move forward. That is the overall.

Thank you so much for the details. The other question is on your financial results.

Your operating profit is flat and the profit, as you mentioned, what is the reason your profit goes down?

Akira Shimada

Because our liability is up, debt is up, interest payment is a big burden. We will try to keep the profit flat, generate profits so that our final net profit will remain flat year-on-year.

Our results forecast at the bottom line, profit is expected to be negative year-on-year, but we are making efforts to make it positive year-on-year. Thank you.

Then,

Kyoko Sekine

the person in the back.

Thank you for your presentation. Endo from NewsPicks.

After the announcement and early commercialization of the new businesses, I have a question. We have the optical quantum computing and also space and the mobility.

Something you can do on your own and something you need to work together in collaboration with others. I think what it is quite challenging is to really realize all this.

What kind of collaboration are you considering to work together with some other players?

Akira Shimada

Already we have started out the collaboration, and as for the optical data relay and optical-based communication, in order to really increase the capacity, we need to introduce the optical communication, and SKY Perfect JSAT, and also we have really developed or established the company. Not just two companies can do everything, and so satellite-related companies in order to ensure the optical communication, we have to really have some equipment.

We need to collaborate with the equipment vendors and others, we have to really work in tandem with others. As for the space, and so we have the observation satellite, and so we are working together with the player in this particular field.

At any rate, in this space business, it is difficult just for us to work in this area, we are really partnering and collaborating with others.

Kyoko Sekine

The next question, please. To my left, to the back.

Miki Otsubo, my name. Domestic corporate business expansion is my question.

Full-stack and sovereign response, I think, is for financial institutions, I think, is domestic corporate business expansion. What is your target on financial institutions, if you have any?

Akira Shimada

Otsubo-san, the target for financial institutions, we don't really have a target there. Of course, we are thinking of financial institutions, but government and public sector, and local governments, municipalities, and the private sector companies, there's a need where company-specific data does not want to go out.

The all-covering sovereign response AI, we want to work on such AI.

Thank you. The other question is data center into REIT.

You talked about that, transferring data center into REIT. Any other assets to be transferred to REIT?

Anything on the plate?

Akira Shimada

The domestic data center will be added to Singapore REIT, which we launched. The REIT that we established last year is Singapore and the US.

The data center in Singapore and US are transferred to REIT. The Japanese market, European data centers will need to be added.

This will, I think, please the investors too, so that's our plan. We will continue transferring data center to REIT.

The first year we did a lot because it was the first year, but we will gradually transfer to REIT vehicle. We will continue doing that.

Thank you. Then,

Kyoko Sekine

we are almost running out of time, and we would like to take one more question if there is one. Thank you.

With this, we would like to conclude the press conference of NTT Inc. We will have the press conference of NTT DOCOMO after this, and so you are kindly requested to wait for a while.

Thank you.