Operator
Good day, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for standing by.
Welcome to TFI International's first quarter 2026 earnings call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode.
Following the presentation, we will conduct a question-and-answer session. Callers will be limited to one question and one follow-up.
Again, that's one question and one follow-up so that we can get to as many callers as possible. Further instructions for entering the queue will be provided at that time.
Please be advised that this conference call will contain statements that are forward-looking in nature and is subject to a number of risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially. I would also like to remind everyone that this conference call is being recorded on April 27, 2026.
Joining us on the call today are Alain Bédard, Chairman, President and Chief Executive Officer, and David Saperstein, Chief Financial Officer. I would now like to turn the call over to Mr.
Alain Bédard. Please go ahead, sir.
Alain Bédard
Thank you for the introduction, operator, and welcome everyone to today's call. Within the past hour, we reported our quarterly results including adjusted diluted EPS of 69 cents.
This performance was driven by the tremendous effort of our talented team members and their relentless focus on efficiency and related operating principles. Taking a step back, a long-standing part of our strategy is to maintain a rock-solid balance sheet that allows us to thoughtfully manage through the cycle.
After generating more than $800 million of free cash flow last year, which was over $10 per share, we produced another $124 million during the first quarter, which further benefited our financial position. Most importantly, this allows us to continue to our track record of strategic capital allocation, investing for the long term regardless of market conditions, while also returning excess capital to shareholders whenever possible.
To that point, during the quarter, we paid out $38 million in quarterly dividends. Let's take a closer look at our first quarter financial results.
Total revenue before fuel surcharge of $1.7 billion was consistent with the prior year quarter. Our consolidated operating earnings of $97 million represented a 5.7% margin, and our net cash from operating activity came in at $100 and $122 million.
Turning to our business segment performance, I'll first mention that we have streamlined our reporting approach in our quarterly report in an effort to reduce complexity for our investors and better align with our peer practices. Therefore, I'll be primarily speaking to the overall results of each of our three segments, beginning with LTL, which represent 38% of our segmented revenue before fuel surcharge.
We saw notable improvement during the quarter as weather improved with shipment per day in March considerably stronger than January and February, and this trend continuing to April. For the first full quarter, the $656 million of revenue before fuel surcharge was down just 3% year-over-year, an improvement from the fourth quarter 10% decline.
Our LTL adjusted operating ratio came in at 95.3, and total operating income of $31 million compares to $47 million one year earlier. Lastly, our return on invested capital for LTL was 11.6, again, with notable improvement through the quarter and into April.
Turning to our Truckload segment, the $673 million of revenue before fuel surcharge was 39% of segmented revenue and grew from $666 $663 million in the prior year first quarter. We were able to grow by 9% our revenue per truck per week, excluding fuel surcharge, while reducing our truck count 7% as we increase fleet productivity and shed excess equipment.
In addition, we continued to see rapid, sequential growth from data center construction, although this today is a small part of overall revenue. Truckload is also a segment for which our past acquisitions, including Daseke, have increased our exposure to industrial truckload end markets, helping us to overcome industry fundamentals recently characterized by tariffs and economic uncertainty, as well as our industry overcapacity.
Our quarterly truckload operating income of $56 million was up from $49 million the prior year, and our OR was 92.7, improved by 100 basis points. Lastly, our truckload return on invested capital came in at 6%.
To round out our segments, Logistics accounted for 23% of segmented revenue at $388 million, which was up slightly from the prior year figure of $385 million and also up 8% sequentially. Our logistic operating income of $34 million was also up year-over-year from $31 million and was up from the December quarter as well.
This equates to a margin of 8.9%, which was also up both year-over-year and sequentially. Our logistics return on invested capital was 12.4.
Moving on to our balance sheet, our strong financial foundation continues to benefit from our free cash flow, another $124 million during the quarter as I mentioned, and we end up month of March with our funded debt-to-EBITDA ratio at 2.6. Wrapping up my remarks, in terms of our updated outlook for the second quarter of 2026, we expect adjusted diluted EPS to be in the range of $1.50 to $1.60, and net capex, excluding real estate, for the full year, we're expecting a range of $225 million to $250 million, unchanged from previous expectation.
As always, our outlook range assume no significant change, either positive or negative, in the operating environment. With that, operator, David and I would be happy to take questions if you could please open the lines.
Operator
Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, we will now begin the question-and-answer session.
To ask a question, you may press star followed by the number one on your telephone keypad, and to withdraw your question, please press star two. Your first question comes from the line of Ravi Shanker with Morgan Stanley.
Please go ahead.
Ravi Shanker
Great. Thanks, afternoon everyone.
Alain, obviously a lot has changed since your previous call with the cycle and the current environment. Would just love to get a sense of what you're seeing out there in terms of the TL market tightening up, direct impacts on you, secondary derivative LTL, etc.?
Alain Bédard
That's a very good question, Ravi. What we're seeing really in the Truckload sector is that it's the offer that's been reduced, right?
With everything that's going on in the US with this new administration, the tightening of a CDL, okay, the closing of all those driving schools, right, that didn't make any sense. The offer has been reduced month after month, and now slowly, okay, we're getting closer to a balance in the industry where for a long time this industry was very unbalanced where the offer was way more than the demand.
Now if you look at our truckload operation in Canada and in the US, we're focused on industrial freight, right? We're not a carrier of retail freight in our truckload world.
We are really industrial, and we feel really, really good about where the US is going and even Canada where the future is for our flatbed operation, our specialty truckload, okay, etc., etc. We're starting to see a change, okay.
Customers now are asking for, "Hey, can you help me?" Customers are saying, "Can we be partners?"
because it's always the same story. When the market starts to tighten up, shippers want to be partners with truckers, right?
We're seeing that. We're very happy with what's going on.
The investment we made in Daseke 2 years ago has been average so far. We were really busy investing in technology and financial system and all that, consolidation.
No, we're starting to see a little bit of light at the end of the tunnel in terms of the demand, in terms of the future of North America, US and Canada. I feel really, really good about where we're at.
Now if you talk about our LTL in North America, I would say that it's been a long time since we have some organic growth in that sector, and I would say that what we're seeing now is slowly we're probably going to show up at least no negative, okay, growth in Q2 in our LTL. We believe that organically our LTL could grow maybe a few points, right, which is going to be a first.
I'm really happy with the commercial team that we have in the US right now led by our guy Chris Traikos and Cal as well. We have way more stability in our commercial team, our service is slowly, again, improving, customers are starting to see us maybe in a different way that, okay, finally these guys are getting their act together.
We're not perfect, we're far from that yet, but we are improving. If you remember the Mastio report, for the first time, okay, we've shown an improvement, okay.
The last 2 or 3 years has been very difficult for us at TFI, but I think that finally we're going to turn the corner, turn the page on very difficult '23, '24 and '25, even '25 being the worst of the three. I think that '26 is the transition year to a much better future for us in the quarters to come.
Ravi Shanker
That's incredibly helpful. I hope you're right about that.
Maybe as a quick follow-up, you said light at the end of the tunnel. Do you have confidence in what the full year is shaping up to be?
When do you think you might restore full-year guidance in the
Alain Bédard
year? What, Ravi, until we have a deal signed between Canada, US and Mexico, we can't come up with a full-year guidance.
It's too unstable right now. Until we have that, and hopefully we'll have that by the end of the summer, okay, and also with more experience where this market is going.
We have the fuel situation with what's going on in Iran. This free-trade agreement between North America.
This is why David and myself, we feel good about giving a guidance for Q2, but not the rest of the year. There's too many things that we're not sure.
We feel good about where we are, and we feel good about where we should be heading, but it's still too early in the game to come up with a year number, right? This is why I think that $1.50, $1.60, I think it would be a great accomplishment because it would be better than last year, because if you look at my Q1, I'm worse than last year on EPS, right?
This got to change. I think that Q2 is for the first time in long time, okay, that will show better numbers than the prior year, at least.
Ravi Shanker
Understood. Thanks, Alain.
Alain Bédard
Pleasure, Ravi.
Operator
The next question comes from Scott Group with Wolfe Research. Please go ahead.
Scott Group
Hey, thanks. Afternoon.
Alain, you mentioned inflecting to hopefully some growth in LTL. Are you still providing breakout US versus Canadian LTL, and are you seeing growth both US and Canada within that comment?
Then maybe just along those lines, any thoughts on the margin outlook for the LTL segment for Q2?
Alain Bédard
Yeah. Here's the deal, Scott.
No, we don't separate US and Canada anymore because more and more what we're saying, the same as our truckload and our logistics, we are a North American player. What I can tell you though, in terms of organic growth, we're seeing as we speak, okay, organic growth in the US year-over-year in April and what we've seen so far.
On the Canadian side, we're starting to see also some improvement there. That's why we feel pretty good that organically in our sectors, truckload the same, okay, logistics the same, we feel that we're going to show some organic growth in Q2 '26 versus '25.
Scott Group
Okay.
Alain Bédard
Then
Scott Group
maybe just I asked for LTL, but maybe you could sort of walk through the P&L and how you're thinking about some of the margin assumptions in order to get to the guide for Q2. Maybe that'd be helpful.
Alain Bédard
Okay. That's a very good question.
That's why I'll leave it to David, our CFO. He's the numbers guy.
David Saperstein
Hi, Scott. For TFI as a whole, we expect OR improvement of 4 to 500 basis points.
Taking it through the segments, I'm talking about sequentially from Q1 to Q2. LTL, we expect 6 to 700 basis points of sequential improvement, Q1 to Q2; Truckload, 2 to 300 basis points; and Logistics, 75 to 125 basis points of improvement.
Scott Group
That's a really big LTL number. Just any additional color there?
Is fuel a big help or is pricing getting a lot better? It's a pretty big sequential step.
David Saperstein
A couple of points. Q1 was probably unusually bad because of the weather in the beginning of the quarter.
We're exiting the quarter way better than we entered the quarter. Just to give you a little bit of sense around that.
In January, LTL shipments were down year-over-year 10%, okay? In March, they were up 8% year-over-year.
April is looking similar to March. We had a very different situation now than in the beginning of the quarter, and that's what's driving a lot of this improvement.
As well as the other things that the team has been working on. Fuel is a part of it, only where we have real strong density, but it's really more around the volumes and some of the pricing actions that we will be putting through.
Alain Bédard
Also, David, if I may add, don't forget that our GRI, okay, was not in place in late '25. We delayed that, and it was put in place mid-March, right?
We have that a little bit of tailwind on that, Scott.
David Saperstein
Yep.
Alain Bédard
Although this is only for about 25% of our shipment, hey Scott? This is only for about 25% of our shipment, but we're in a penny business, Scott, every penny counts.
Scott Group
I get it. Thank you, guys.
Appreciate it.
Alain Bédard
Thank you, Scott.
Operator
The next question comes from Ari Rosa with Citigroup. Please go ahead.
Ari Rosa
Hey, good afternoon, Alain and David. Alain, you mentioned that you were feeling good about the sales effort on the LTL side.
I was hoping you could talk just more broadly about how the LTL turnaround is progressing and kind of how you think about the structural barriers to improving margins there. It sounds like a lot of improvement is underway, but just kind of curious how much of that is related to things that you guys are undertaking versus the broader macro environment maybe turning more favorable.
Alain Bédard
Yeah. You see, Ari, if you look at the worst thing that you can have is you try to sell a service and the service is not there, right?
Because that's what we do, us. We sell a service.
We are supposed to pick up the freight and we don't show up. That's not too good, right?
This is what the operating guys have been working at, okay, miss pickup. If you look at our claims, okay, consolidated, we're at 0.6.
If you remember when we were showing that separate, US was not that good, so that's another area that we are improving. Stability in your sales team also helps you, okay, with the customer relationship and all that.
This is like a goodwill thing. Hopefully macro will start to help us down the road at one point when the market is stronger.
In the meantime, okay, we still have lots to do for us to improve our service. I said in last conference call that if you look at our US, okay, we still have issues with not the next-day service, we're good at that, but the second and the third-day service, we have some issues.
The guys are working on that. The culture is the culture of the old days of laissez-faire and I don't really care.
We're changing that culture. [laughs] You're going to say, "Alain, you bought the company 5 years ago."
5 years ago, think about that. We're still, okay, working on changing this culture of we're not a monopoly anymore, okay?
We are an LTL company in North America, and we compete with good peers. We're competing with good companies in North America.
We have to be good. Our service has to be up there, right, in order to get more money.
Because if you ask me today, pricewise, we are a discounted carrier compared to some of my peers, right? The reason we are some kind of a discounted carrier is because our service is not where it should be.
This is the chicken and the egg, right? Where does this start?
It starts with providing the acceptable service comparable to our peers. This is an ongoing thing that our ops guys are doing, and at the same time also we're saying to our commercial team, "Guys, let's focus on freight that fits us.
Don't give me a customer where I have to run 70 miles to pick up the shipment because this is not what I want. I want something that is closer to my terminal to improve my density, okay?
I want more shipments per stop, okay, to improve my cost per shipment, etc., etc." It's a team effort.
Again, we're still in a position of working hard to get closer to the service level of our peers.
Ari Rosa
Understood. Then just as a follow-on, I wanted to ask about the strength in flatbed rates.
It's been pretty remarkable to see some of the public load board data. I'm just curious to hear your thoughts on what has TFI's ability been to capitalize on that particularly in Daseke, and then just broadening it out to the broader business, how you think about what upcycle earnings could look like both for Daseke and for the broader business, let's assume for a moment kind of a benign resolution to USMCA?
Yeah.
Alain Bédard
Listen, guys. Our revenue per mile is up in our TFI specialty truckload.
Absolutely, our revenue per mile is moving up, okay? We drive more miles per truck per week, okay?
This is a productivity effort that Steve, the leader of our truckload division, has been able to do is do more with less, okay? Now, for sure also, if you look at our market, our focus is more and more into markets where we are more specialists.
I'll give you the example of Lone Star, which is Texas-based. Today, we run 100 trucks highly specialized, $7, $8 a mile, okay, which is great.
Next to that in Lone Star, we also run over the road at $2.25, $2.40 a mile. What we're saying is that, being jack of all trades, master of none, what we're trying to do with the team there is that, guys, from 100 trucks we'll move the super specialty truckload to 150, but the over-the-road thing there, we're going to move that to someone else, okay.
What we did with SPD on the West Coast, okay, those guys are very strong with Boeing, and Boeing is just on fire, right? The demand is just through the roof over there at Boeing.
We said, "Guys, how many trucks do we need to service this high-end customer, that niche customer? We need 75 trucks.
That's it, that's all. Fine.
Goodbye." You used to have 200 trucks, now you're down to 75, okay.
We're moving those trucks to Wylie in North Dakota because Wylie is our big over-the-road truckload guy, and we want Wylie to be 1,000 trucks, right? Not 5, 600, but 1,000.
We're doing all these changes at the same time that we are working on reducing our costs, reducing our asset base. If you look at our brokerage operation in our Truckload sector, last month, revenuewise, we were up 7%, 8%.
The goal is to drive more revenue with less steel in the road. All of that, this is when David was talking about our Q2 forecast versus our Q1, okay, we see some improvement in all of our sectors, including Truckload.
Ari Rosa
Alain, on a like-for-like basis, because I understand there's a mix impact there, but on a like-for-like basis, can you tell us kind of how contract rates are comping year-over-year?
David Saperstein
Yeah. I can jump in on that.
We're renewing contracts in the US flatbed in the high single digits to low double digits. We also have about 20%, 25% spot exposure in the US flatbed, and those rates are coming in higher.
That's not where we're focused, right? We're really focused on the contract area, but we do have some spot exposure.
Canada is not yet seeing those kinds of numbers. The renewals there are more in the low single digits.
Ari Rosa
Very helpful. Thanks for the time.
David Saperstein
Pleasure.
Operator
The next question comes from the line of Ken Hoexter with Bank of America. Please go ahead.
Ken Hoexter
Hey, great. Alain and David, good afternoon and thanks for the details on the outlook.
The historical sequential change in LTL, TL logistics, Dave, I know you gave what you target now in this. Can you give maybe historical, just given combined numbers, we can kind of understand how that is normal or if it stands out?
Then maybe talk about the highs, lows in the target, the $1.50, $1.60?
David Saperstein
Yeah. On the historicals, Ken, in the appendix of the presentation on the website, we've got eight quarters of historicals with the new presentation.
I'll just ask folks to look at that. In terms of the range, what could drive the high, the low, it's a pretty tight range.
It's 10 cents, right? There's a lot of moving parts.
I don't know, Mr. Bédard, if you'd like to comment on what could drive where we land within the range.
[laughs]
Alain Bédard
It's what we feel, Ken, that is reasonable and attainable, okay, right now because don't forget, there's lots of instability right now, right? This is based on what we've seen so far in April.
This is based on when we talk to our three top guys, our three senior EVPs about how do they see the quarter. We've asked those guys to re-forecast, okay, so that we can give you guys that kind of guidance, okay?
These are fresh off the press revised number from our guys. We could be wrong, okay, but we feel pretty confident based on what we've seen so far.
The trend.
Ken Hoexter
If I could just follow up on that. Just given great now, right, up 8% both March and April in LTL tonnage, I presume you're talking about, or shipments?
Then
David Saperstein
No, that's shipment numbers.
Ken Hoexter
All right, shipments. Then that's not just catching up from the weather, that's actual economic turn.
I just want to understand the feeling behind that, and same on Truckload, your ability to kind of capture that share back real time. Thanks.
David Saperstein
It's an interesting question, right? Is it catch-up from freight that didn't move in January that's driving that?
Possibly, but I'm not sure that that would continue all the way into April. The LTL shipment count was down 10% in Jan.
It was flat year-over-year in Feb. Then like I say, we're up 8% in March and looking similar in April.
Now the important piece is to press on the revenue per shipment and make sure that because we were a little bit late on the GRI relative to peers, we were also a little bit low relative to peers on the GRI at only 3.9%, maybe some work to be done there. In terms of Truckload, like Mr.
Bédard was saying, there's been a lot of good work that was done last year taking excess trucks out of the system. When you look at the KPIs of our truckload today, you can see that revenue per truck per week ex fuel was up 8.6%, and truck count was down 7.1%.
We did the same amount of revenue with 7% less trucks, and you see that in the D&A, right? The D&A is down I think $3.5 million year-over-year, but actually on a like-for-like if you exclude M&A, it's down $5 $5 million.
Alain Bédard
Then
David Saperstein
on top of that, we've got brokerage up another 7%, and that trend is continuing into April. This is the direction that the segment is going, and we haven't really seen the impact of this pricing yet, right, because all these renewals are taking place now.
Ken Hoexter
Wonderful. Appreciate that.
Thanks, David. Thanks, Alain.
Alain Bédard
It's a pleasure.
Operator
Thank you. The next question comes from the line of Walter Spracklin with RBC Capital Markets.
Please go ahead.
Walter Spracklin
Thanks very much. Good afternoon, Alain.
Good afternoon, David. I want
David Saperstein
to
Walter Spracklin
perhaps just ask a couple kind of modeling questions. Your tax rate has been pretty low here in the last couple quarters.
What tax rate should we kind of assume for the rest of this year and does that hold for next year? Just as a second question here, I know you're not giving guidance for full year, but historically, putting last year aside obviously, but historically, summer trucking is better than second-quarter trucking, and you tend to have a better OR and better EPS in the third quarter, all else equal.
Is there anything, if there's no change in underlying conditions, no change in tariffs, just looking on a straight line, is it fair to say that Q3 EPS seasonally does tend to be better than Q2 and should we at least pencil that in for this year?
Alain Bédard
Yeah. Walter, David, I'll let you answer the tax thing there, and then I'll take the rest, the second.
David Saperstein
Sounds good. Yeah.
On the tax, we have a permanent tax benefit which is related to our financing structure, and that increased a little bit as we increased the size of that financing structure through additional M&A. That's a permanent benefit, but when profit before tax came down in Q1 quite a bit, the rate looks very low, right, because we have a fixed benefit and less profit before tax.
What I would model going forward is something more in the maybe 24% range, and that should be directionally where we land over the course of the rest of the year. Yeah.
Alain Bédard
Then, Walter, on your question, although we don't give guidance, okay, on three and four for '26, but what I could say is this: our logistics sector is going to do probably a lot better, okay? One of our major contributor to our logistics is we move trucks, right, for PACCAR and DTNA, and we just signed a deal also with Volvo, okay, we start Volvo late this year.
We haul about 70% of all the trucks manufacture in North America right now. If you read what the OEMs are saying, and I could tell you that we're very busy in so far in Q2.
Logistics, and also the acquisition we did late last year, we didn't have that, those guys are doing great. We are involved in the data center construction, we are partner with the construction company in Michigan with four data centers, this is something new for us.
I feel really good about '26 in our Logistics. Truckload, like David was saying, the renewal rates are really helping us.
Thanks to the US administration where these guys, they took the bull by the horn with all these illegal and unsafe drivers, this is really helping the industry in general. Hopefully the industry will stop chasing in drivers and chase rates instead of always keeping chasing drivers.
Hopefully, we learn from that after 3 years of being like famine on rates. In our LTL, Cal and the team there are working, and finally on the commercial side, we have stability.
To answer your question, Q3 normally, okay, because it's summer, costs are less, we probably should see better, and I feel pretty good, but we can't really give guidance because there's so much instability, Walter, in the world right now, okay, so that we say we stay cautious, but we know that we have a lot of good stuff on the go with our team, right? Our team is all pumped up and after 3 years of very, very difficult environment for us.
Walter Spracklin
Appreciate the time. Thank you.
Alain Bédard
Pleasure, Walter.
Operator
The next question comes from the line of Jason Seidl with TD Cowen. Please go ahead.
Jason Seidl
Thanks, operator. Hey, Alain.
Hey, David.
Alain Bédard
I
Jason Seidl
wanted to talk a little bit, Alain, about a comment you made that you guys are still discounted in terms of the LTL pricing versus your peers. Where do you think the service level needs to go?
It sounds like you're fine in your next day, but it's the second and third day that you're looking at. Where do you think it needs to go?
Are you going to still give investors sort of updates so we can sort of keep track of that progress?
Alain Bédard
Yeah. That's a good point, Jason, because we know where we stand, okay, although it's not published, but this is something, David, that we'll have to look at.
What I could tell you, though, Jason, is that on the next-day service, okay, we're on par with our peers and the fourth-day service. This is where the guys are working on second and third day, and I said the same story on the previous call.
This is where we lack, okay, the care, okay. We still have issues with shipment that's supposed to go to A and they're going to B because they've not been scanned.
When you look at TFI, our Canadian LTL over time has build one step at a time, right? If you look at one of my best peer, OD, they were built one step at a time over a long period of time.
Us, we jump in to UPS Freight, and the real estate was abandoned, the fleet was abandoned, the IT was abandoned, a lot of things were abandoned because UPS, for them, it was not really important. Their parcel business was the key.
Their LTL was just an afterthought, right? It takes us way more time than I thought, way more time.
We're going to get there. The service is the key because if you don't provide a service that is equal to your peers, you get penalized, okay?
You get switched over. Now for sure in a difficult environment, okay, in a soft market, you suffer way more than versus a let's say a strong market.
The shippers will close an eye more if your service is not up to par in a very strong market. We've not been in a strong market for 3 years.
Now we're getting ready to have a better market, but no, no, no, we're still working on improving our service so that we can move closer to our peers in terms of the revenue per shipment, right?
Jason Seidl
No, Alain, I totally get that, and let's keep our fingers crossed for a better market. Wanted to follow up on something you mentioned.
You talked a little bit about obviously the steps the administration here in the States is taking to combat some of the very questionable capacity that has flooded the market over the last couple of years. What's going on up in Canada and what do you think needs to be done going forward to help out with capacity up there?
Alain Bédard
What, the Canadian, with the new Prime Minister that's not asleep at the wheel like the previous one, they took action, okay? In 2011, okay, they've decided not to issue any employment record for an owner-operator.
These Driver Inc. guys took advantage of that, and that loophole has been closed as of December '25.
Now if you are a Driver Inc., your employer has to issue you an employment, what do they call that, certificate that tells you your earnings, etc., etc. Now you cannot cheat the tax, right?
We see an effect, okay, not as strong as what we see in the US because US, they took really the bull by the horn. It's not the same approach, right?
The Canadian approach is more slow and okay, fine, after 10 years of complaining, they start to do something. We're starting to see a little bit of that effect because those Driver Inc.
don't pay any taxes, right? So [laughs] they can offer a customer that doesn't care a much better deal than us.
Now as of December 20 '25, the employer had to issue kind of what we call us it's like a W-2 in the US or W-9, okay. This is the statement of your earnings, okay, and now you're stuck with paying taxes because this information has been sent to CRA, the Canadian tax government, right?
It's much slower than what we've seen in the US. The US is really very active, very active.
There's a safety reason there, okay? Those drivers are not safe, their equipment is not safe.
It's got to be resolved. Us as an industry, we have to stop chasing drivers and talking about we have a shortage of drivers.
If you ask Exxon or Chevron there's a shortage of oil, what did they do? They just raise the price.
They don't try to chase for oil stupidly.
Jason Seidl
Alain, great color as always. Appreciate the time.
Alain Bédard
Pleasure, Jason.
Operator
The next question comes from the line of Jordan Alliger with Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.
Jordan Alliger
Hi. Afternoon.
Hi. Sort of question, now that you've sort of streamlined or re-streamlined the segments into the three broader categories, I was wondering, Alain, if you could maybe give some sense on this revamped basis and how you're looking at it, perhaps medium- to long-term margin targets as to where you think these segments in a normalized world should be at?
Thanks.
Alain Bédard
In a normal environment, okay, I don't see us running an LTL with an OR that is 90 OR, okay? Right now we were at 95 in Q1, okay, based on what David just talked about how do we see Q2, probably a sub-90 OR, okay.
In a normal environment, you have to run an LTL division between an 80 to an 85 OR, okay? That's is our goal in North America LTL.
For sure, okay, the edge that we have is our Canadian operation, everybody knows that, has always been a gold standard, right? Our US operation has never been a gold standard.
This is why it's a unified operation under Cal now, and we believe that our US operation over time will get closer to our gold standard that we run in Canada, right? To say that an 80 to an 85 OR in a normal environment in our LTL, that's where we have to be.
The Truckload sector, we don't run van for retail guys, right? We don't run van for Amazon or Walmart.
We don't do that. Our customers are industrial, we are a specialty.
Our drivers are not just driving a truck, they also operate something, right? If it's a tanker, they operate the unloading of the tanker, if it's a flatbed, they operate with the tarp and things like that, the strapping and all that.
It's not just a driver, he's also an operator. This is why you cannot run, okay, with a 90 OR.
That doesn't make any sense. If you look at our Q1, okay, we're running at what, a 92 something OR, which is terrible, okay?
Our goal is to be under 90 OR very soon, okay. In a normal environment, where should we be?
We have to be between let's say an 82 to an 86 OR in our specialty truckload. More importantly, hey, Jordan, is the return on invested capital, okay, which is the problem that we have.
Right now we're at 6%, which is terrible. No, in a normal year, we should be between 10% and 15%.
Now this is where we're heading to. In our LTL, we have to be above 20%, the same with our Logistics sector, above 20% return on invested capital, right?
Our Logistics, we've always run at about a 90 OR, that's where we're at now, we're very close to that. Where should we be in a normal environment with the quality of our Logistics?
Where we're heading, it's got to be between an 86 and an 88 normal environment, maybe 85 in a good year, okay, but this is where we have to be in a normal environment. If you do the sum of all that, TFI is not a 90 OR company.
That's what will probably be in Q2, around 90 OR, but in a normal environment, TFI is not a 90 OR. Where we're heading with the quality of our people and our market, in a normal environment, it's more like an 85 OR, right?
Globally. 85
Jordan Alliger
to 87,
Alain Bédard
right?
Jordan Alliger
Got it. Thank you very much.
Operator
The next question comes from the line of Brian Ossenbeck with J.P. Morgan.
Please go ahead.
Brian Ossenbeck
Hey, thanks for taking the question. Just to come back to the GRI, I think you said it was late and low at least in the US.
How did that work out? Sounded like perhaps there's another action coming just based on what you were talking about earlier.
Are you starting to see some weight per shipment improve there as well? Maybe you can talk about the price and mix trend in US LTL.
Alain Bédard
Yeah. What, go ahead, David.
[laughs] I'll let you go with that.
David Saperstein
Listen, the pricing actions that are taking place next are specific accounts, specific freight that is below where it needs to be because the volumes have improved, and so now we have to be more selective. That's the work that's being done right now and will sort of develop over time.
In terms of weight per shipment, it didn't move too much when you look at this quarter, right? We're kind of year-over-year kind of flat, and that's true in the US as well.
Brian Ossenbeck
All right. Thanks, David.
Maybe just to follow up on that real quick, anything into April for weight per shipment as you've given out some information on that already? Then love to hear a little bit more about the acquisition you guys just did.
I think it's fairly good size at 2% of consolidated revenue, maybe give us a sense in terms of what you're expecting from that here into the next quarter as you integrate it and for the rest of the year. Thank you.
David Saperstein
Yeah. I don't have the weight per shipment in front of me, but I do have LTL revenue per shipment in April, and that's flat, which is much improved over March because in March it was down low single digits.
We're flat revenue per shipment in April with 6% more shipments.
Alain Bédard
The next question of our friend David was about
David Saperstein
The acquisition? Acquisition that we
Alain Bédard
Yeah.
David Saperstein
The one in Logistics, Brian, is that
Brian Ossenbeck
That was the one.
David Saperstein
Yes, the one, yeah. Listen, it's a great value-added kind of logistics niche business.
In concept, it's similar to the JHT acquisition, meaning niche, good barriers to entry and these guys are basically providing value-added warehousing, kitting, sub-assembly in the auto sector, entrepreneurial and we're able to grow this into different adjacent areas like even into some data centers, some battery plants. We're looking at expanding this into the trucking OEMs.
It's just another example, it's really the kind of business that we like in our logistics. We don't do a ton of brokerage in our logistics.
We do have some, but what we really like are these niche really value-added providers that provide great service and great returns, which, by the way, are completely uncorrelated with the rest of the business and provide a nice portfolio element to the earnings profile as well.
Alain Bédard
Yeah. If I may add, guys, these guys are solution provider to our customer, right?
They come in and they say they have a great engineering department that comes in and provide a solution that could be good for a year, good for 2 years on a project. This is really a good thing.
Now, like David is saying, we're talking to our truck OEM, which we move their trucks, right? We're talking to an example, a company that wants to open up a battery plant for storage, right?
Not for the cars, but for storage. We are involved with those guys on that in the US.
That division is, I would say, David, what, 85% US and 10%, 15% Canadian? Of revenuewise.
David Saperstein
Yeah.
Alain Bédard
The split. It's really US-based.
Brian Ossenbeck
Very helpful. Thanks very much, guys.
Operator
The next question comes from the line of Tom Wadewitz with UBS. Please go ahead.
Tom Wadewitz
Yes, good afternoon, good evening. Let's see.
You've I think had a lot of helpful responses to the questions. Alain, and it's great to see the improvement in demand and traction you have.
How do you think about where you're at on I guess quality of shipments? If I look back to what happened and this is focused on US LTL, you kind of had a lot of shipments in the system and that came down maybe more than you thought, right?
There was some probably purposeful move out of shipments. Now you've got the service improvement.
How do you think about the shipments per day you're at in US network and kind of quality of the shipments you have? Is that kind of on the right track and what you're getting is good quality?
I think it relates to some of the other questions you've had.
Alain Bédard
Then
Tom Wadewitz
maybe additional to that is how long is the lag between service and really getting more on price, right? Because the industry leaders get call it 4% to 5% revenue per hundredweight.
That's something you can do [laughs] I think with really high service, but I guess a couple components on just kind of where you're at in US LTL.
Alain Bédard
Yeah. What, what the commercial team has done as an example with our 3PL, what we gave those guys let's say a year ago was mostly blanket rates, which is the worst that you could do, right?
Because then you give the guy a blanket rate, they'll use you when you're the cheapest and lowest guy in the world, right? We said this doesn't make any sense.
We have to move closer to CSP, customer-specific pricing, okay? This is stickier because it's customer-specific to a 3PL customer, okay.
What we see now, okay, is that our 3PL business is way more acceptable in terms of volume and in terms of pricing then and in terms of stickiness than the system we had before. On the other side, the corporate account, okay, we made a lot of changes there with two big retailers that want to squeeze you 45 times a day on the rates.
We just said, "I'm sorry, okay, we can't afford to service you because we can't make money with you guys. We can't run business with 115 OR."
At the same time that we're moving our SMB to where it should have been at the time, and our corporate, okay, shipments is about flat. Why is that?
Because we got rid of two retail guys, okay, that were very important to us about a year and a half ago, and now they are kind of still with us, but very negligible in terms of the size. If you look at the mix between SMB, corporate, government and 3PL, okay, we feel good about the mix that we have today.
Now that doesn't mean that we're not pushing on SMB, okay? Absolutely, we're still pushing on that because there is some niche areas, freight that fits us better than anyone else, right?
This is the goal is to get that freight that fits us better than anyone else in our industry, right? This is the focus that we have with our guys.
Not a game, a price game, is just get the right price, but something that fits us, right? Sometimes a shipment that is worth $300 for my peers, okay, fits me way better than them, this is the kind of shipments I want, right?
This is all these tools that we've been using, and slowly, because we have some stability in our sales force, then we can build with the strategy with those guys. The leader that we have in our commercial now is a strategic player that comes out with all these kinds of strategic approach to the market.
As an example, one area that we're pushing more and more is transborder freight between US and Canada and vice versa, right? We are a large player in Canada, and we know that the profitability of a transborder shipment is way better than a domestic US or a domestic Canadian shipment.
Until a year ago, the focus we kept talking about it, but they didn't walk the talk. Now, okay, we see also on the transborder side, okay, way more focus on growing that highly profitable business.
Right.
Tom Wadewitz
Okay. That makes a lot of sense.
What about the lag between service improvement and price? I don't know if you want to say kind of what your revenue per hundredweight was in the quarter year-over-year or how you think that progresses, but is price really starting to come through or is that something where you say, "Hey, that's another lever to come in the future that we're seeing nice traction on shipments.
Price comes next year or price comes a couple quarters out," or just how to think about that element of the equation? Thanks.
Alain Bédard
Hard to see, Tom. We're not there.
We're not there to say that, "Hey, guys, we're going to get more dollars, okay, from our customer because our service is up to par to our peers." We're not there yet.
Right now where we are there, though, is that through the stability of our commercial team, to the focus that these guys, we're able to bring volume organically growing, okay, compared to where we were let's say a year ago. That we can say.
We know, okay, because we have experience that the more that your service is closer to your peers, then your revenue per shipment, unless you're stupid, okay, will be closer to your peers, okay? We're not there yet, Tom.
We're slowly at least creating some kind of organic growth, which we've never done, right, on the US LTL like David was explaining, okay, on the shipment count. On the pricing, we're not there.
That's an opportunity in the future that I could say.
Tom Wadewitz
Great. Makes sense.
Thank you.
Alain Bédard
You're welcome, Tom.
Operator
The next question comes from the line of Konark Gupta with Scotiabank. Please go ahead.
Konark Gupta
Good afternoon, Alain and David. Alain, maybe wanted to ask you first on the demand side.
I think a lot of people are talking about obviously the trucking rates are going up a lot, fuel prices have surged as well, and clearly, the truck rates combined with the fuel prices is what the shippers see at the end. In this environment, what are you seeing from demand perspective?
I'm curious to know because I know you said you're a discounted carrier in some respects in US LTL, maybe it's not such a big an issue for you, but at some point, there's some price elasticity perhaps. I'm just trying to see what are you seeing from that perspective?
Where do you see shippers becoming more sensitive or less sensitive now?
Alain Bédard
Konark, for sure, right now, it's a double whammy for the shippers, right? They get the pressure of the fuel surcharge, right, which is huge.
At the same time on the US side, mostly on the US side, they get the offer that's been reduced tremendously by this new administration that is doing their job in terms of getting rid of all these unsafe, okay, and unqualified drivers in the US. For sure it's difficult.
Don't forget that all this that's going on right now, the volumes are not growing, right? It's the offer that is less and less and less, right?
What we've seen so far is that, "Hey, listen. The market is adjusting, okay, to higher rates, to the fuel surcharge."
Everybody is thinking that this thing there in Iran, hopefully will get settled at one point. It's an economical war right now, right, because they're not really shooting at each other, but it's a financial thing there, and it's going to get resolved at one point, right?
Is it in a month? Is it in 2 months?
This fuel surcharge will start to disappear slowly over time. At the same time, okay, hopefully we believe us that because of our business focus on industrial, okay, not retail, on the truckload side, I'm talking here, is this is going to start the demand is going to start to grow at the same time that maybe fuel will start to drop, fuel surcharge will start to drop, rates will keep flat or going up, and our costs will come down because of fuel surcharge.
Because at the end of the day, when fuel surcharge is 80% of the base rate, it's not a good discussion that you have with the customer, right? Nobody likes that, but it is what it is, right?
Konark Gupta
That makes sense, Alain. Thanks.
As a follow-up, I think we haven't had a lot of discussion today on your M&A opportunities. Can you talk about what's your focus here now, given the market seems to be turning?
I think you have waited for some time to pull the trigger, I guess. Your free cash is still good.
More earnings power probably means more cash flows. How do you see capital allocation, maybe heading into 2027?
Alain Bédard
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. For sure, the problem we have right now on M&A, Konark, is very simple is that everybody is waiting because everybody believes that things will get better.
The seller says, "Why would I sell now? I'm going to wait because my numbers, my profitability will improve over the next 6 to 12 months or 18 months."
Because we are having serious discussion on some nice tuck-ins, but everything is on hold right now because everybody says, "Oh, things will get better." We wait.
Now, for us in the meantime, okay, what myself and David we're going to be doing is very simple. If the price is acceptable to us, we'll do the buyback.
If not, we'll just reduce the debt, reduce the leverage. Like you said, Konark, with the huge free cash flow that we're going to generate.
Q1 was an exception because we pay fuel short term, and our customers pays us on average about 40 days, this is why our free cash flow took a beating in Q1. When fuel situation gets normal, this cash flow is going to get back to the usual numbers that we see, $700, $800 million of cash.
We're going to work on reducing the debt. The dividend, we grow that dividend every year.
We've grown that what, $0.02 a quarter last year. Yes, maybe a little bit of dividend growth, but really it's going to be focus on reducing our leverage because we believe that interest rates are not coming down anytime soon in the US unless maybe the new President of Fed changes his mind.
In Canada, we're worried that because of inflation, maybe the interest rate will start to go up. We said, you know what, let's reduce our debt level.
If I remember, David, correct me if I'm wrong, but I think our leverage goes down under 2 if we don't do anything major in '26 in terms of M&A, besides what's been done so far. Yep.
Yep. Yep.
On that,
David Saperstein
Konark, [laughs] we make the best of whatever situation the market gives us, and the market gave us over the last 3 years a very, very difficult cycle. During those last 3 years, we deployed more capital than we ever have in any 3-year period.
When we look at '23, '24, '25 and first quarter, we've deployed $2.5 billion in investments. $1.8 of that was M&A, and $620 million of that was buybacks.
We feel very good about that timing. We're optimistic that now in this environment, we're going to start to see the returns on those investments, and we'll use the cash flows to delever a little bit and get ready for the future.
Konark Gupta
That's great. Appreciate the time as always.
Thank you.
Alain Bédard
Thank you, Konark.
Operator
The next question comes from the line of Benoit Poirier with Desjardins. Please go ahead.
Benoit Poirier
Hey, good afternoon, David. Good afternoon, Alain.
Thanks for the update on capital allocation and the update on M&A talking. I'm just curious, what about the potential for maybe a more transformative deal and anything required on US LTL to add density in order to get to a normalized OR of 80%, 85% as you mentioned before?
Alain Bédard
Benoit, it takes two to dance, right? In a discussion that we had with one of our target, so far it didn't work, right?
It didn't work. If you go back in time, it took us 5 years.
I've been working 5 years to convince UPS to sell UPS Freight. Took me 2 years to convince DHL to sell DHL Canada.
So, [laughs] How would you say that? We're used to people saying no to us, okay?
We don't let go when we believe that for the shoulder, the target and our shoulder, a deal would be beneficial, right? Right now, it's still a no.
It's still no, no, no, no, no, you do something else, call someone else, don't bother me. It's still the best deal that we could do in a lot of deals that we're looking at.
Right now, it's difficult, right? Like David was saying, we're going to be busy this year in '26.
We still have a lot of good stuff to go. Daseke was bought 2 years ago, we still have a lot of work to do there on working with those guys to turn good truckers into good businessmen.
The difference being good truckers like to service customer and hope that they'll make money. Good businessmen are focused on making money, servicing customer well.
It's not the same, right? This is the kind of TFI education on truckers that we try to do.
M&A is the blood of TFI, '26 is probably going to be very quiet, but hey, listen, we're getting ready, we're getting ready. Like David was saying, we made a ton, $1.8 billion of investment, and the last few years, we were not able to show how good these were because the market was so bad.
Now '26, '27, hopefully things are starting to turn, then we'll be in a position to not come up with a stupid $4 a share of EPS, right? We'll get closer to where we should be, and hopefully, we can come up with reduced leverage and to strike a good deal once we have a seller that says yes instead of no.
Benoit Poirier
That's great color. Maybe just in terms of follow-up, Alain, you've seen a lot of trucking cycles over the years.
You mentioned potential OR for each segment under a normalized environment. How fast do you think we could get into a normalized environment given this cycle and improved fundamental?
Could we see a normalized environment in 2027 or maybe 2028?
Alain Bédard
What, Benoit, it's hard to predict, but I think that if you look at industrial freight environment in the US or in Canada, schools, hospital, road, bridge, etc., etc., housing. Housing is an issue, right?
We feel pretty good that interest rate is an issue, right? Interest rate being high is related to inflation being high.
Now we have the problem of the fuel, but the problem of the fuel will probably be settled soon. As soon as we have lowered interest rates, this economy will start to boom again.
Industrial freight to me is the key. I'm always worried with retail freight because of the nature of the beast, the e-commerce, some of my customers in the brick-and-mortar world, they're being squeezed.
When your customer is squeezed, he tries to squeeze you, this is why I don't want to be stuck with those guys. Industrial freight is really the future because this is related to a growing economy.
I think the intention of this US administration is to bring back some industrial base into the US. They understand that there's a problem.
Globalization was good, but if you can't build a ship and you're the US, well, you have a problem, right, because the ships are mostly built in Asia right now. The guys are saying, "Hey, we got to do something about that."
To me, these are all positive to our flatbed division that relates to the industrial. As an example, I was talking about Boeing.
Boeing went through a lot of issues, okay, with their products, but now, those guys are flying high, and us, we're piggyback on Boeing with our SPD or SFI Global Logistics division over there in Washington state. These are all things that, when you are piggyback on the US industrial economy and the direction that this administration was to go, I feel pretty good.
Benoit Poirier
That's great. That's great color, Alain.
Thank you very much for the time.
Alain Bédard
It's a pleasure.
Operator
The next question comes from the line of Cameron Doerksen with National Bank. Please go ahead.
Cameron Doerksen
Thanks. Good afternoon.
Just a question on the Logistics segment. Obviously, you guys are feeling pretty optimistic about the truck moving portion of that business as the year progresses.
Could you just talk a little bit about the other couple major businesses within Logistics, what you're seeing there, and what the outlook looks like for the next few quarters?
Alain Bédard
Yeah. What, Cameron, within our Logistics sector, okay, we have the truck movers, okay, guys.
We have the specialty guys that David was talking about that we just acquired late last year. Very importantly is our logistics sector that is the old Dynamex operation that we run both US and Canada, highly profitable last-mile operation.
Also, we have a small brokerage, $500 million brokerage operation that's called TForce Worldwide, okay, that is an LTL play. All these business unit, Cameron, are showing good results today.
When we talk to them, they say, "Hey, we'll do better. The truck movers will do better.
The other logistics that David was talking about will do better. Our last-mile guys are saying, 'You know what?
Now we're working on a solution that will help us reduce our costs.' It's an IT solution, and hopefully we'll have that ready for the new year, 2027."
We feel pretty good about where we're heading, guys. Logistics, if you look at what the guys are doing with close to $400 million of revenue, it's not chicken shit, right?
Most importantly is what's the bottom line? The bottom line is about 10 points, we're close to 10, right?
This is a big area of focus of ours, and it's a beautiful business.
Cameron Doerksen
Okay. That's helpful.
Just maybe a quick question on the fuel impact. You mentioned the impact on the free cash flow in the quarter just the timing of collections.
Was there any positive or negative impact from the big spike in fuel prices during March to the P&L? Obviously there's a lag between when you collect the revenue, but there's also maybe in some of your operations, denser operations, maybe the fuel surcharge helped.
Just wondering what the net impact was in the first quarter.
Alain Bédard
Yeah. On that, David, I'll let you go with this one.
Yeah.
David Saperstein
The net impact was pretty neutral across TFI in March. It was slightly positive in the LTL because of the density that we have in certain areas of the LTL.
What I mean by that is we're not driving large distances between stops, we're not burning a lot of fuel. That was offset by a negative loss in the Truckload related to those climbing fuel prices.
Cameron Doerksen
Okay. No, that's helpful.
That's all for me. Thanks very much.
Alain Bédard
Good.
Operator
The next question comes from the line of Bruce Chan with Stifel. Please go ahead.
Bruce Chan
Hey, thanks, and good afternoon, guys. Just wanted to clarify a couple things.
First, I understand the rationale for the reporting consolidation between the different LTL divisions, just curious if there are any changes planned for maybe more operational integration between them now?
Alain Bédard
Oh,
David Saperstein
sorry. Please go ahead, Mr.
Bédard. Please.
Alain Bédard
No, I was just going to say the same as you, David, I'll let you go.
David Saperstein
No, there's no change in terms of the way that the business is managed.
Bruce Chan
Great. That's very clear and very helpful.
Then just a kind of final quick one here. You talked about the data center exposure, which is obviously very exciting.
You said that it's a small piece of the business. Can you maybe just remind us of what that exposure looks like today versus maybe where it was last year?
David Saperstein
Yeah. This quarter, it was $21 million of revenue, which was up from $15 million in Q4 and $8 million in Q1 of last year.
Bruce Chan
Great. Super helpful.
David Saperstein
That's all in Truckload.
Bruce Chan
Awesome. Appreciate the time.
David Saperstein
Sure.
Alain Bédard
You're welcome.
Operator
Our last question comes from the line of Harrison Bauer with Susquehanna. Please go ahead.
Harrison Bauer
Good evening, Mr. Bédard and David.
Thanks for squeezing me in here for a question. You highlighted doing more with less in TL and any sense of how much productivity improvements you can continue to get or what you need to see in the market before you want to start growing that truck count again?
Or are you at that point with how elevated rates are? Thank you.
Alain Bédard
Okay. I think, David, that you touched on that, right, the revenue per truck
David Saperstein
and
Alain Bédard
all that, right?
David Saperstein
Yeah. Yeah.
Alain Bédard
Over and above that, okay, when I'm talking to the senior EVP there, Steve, what I'm saying to Steve is what we need is a better mix, okay, of asset and non-asset revenue, okay? Our goal has always been to generate about 65%, I'm talking truckload here, okay, about 65% of revenue from our asset-based operation and about 30% to 35% on a non-asset-based operation.
When we bought Daseke, that was difficult to do, number one, because these guys, they really love trucks, right? They were committed to a ton of capex in '24.
We're stuck with all this capex in '24. Then we get into '25, and we still don't have a clear vision of what's going on.
Our capex for '25 was, again, still too elevated for the market, but we've corrected that now. This is why, like David was saying, we deliver way more revenue, okay, per truck per week, okay, and also we're starting to get better revenue per mile.
We drive more miles and with better revenue per mile. Also we are growing our asset-light operation in Q1.
We've grown that, David, I think was 7%, right?
David Saperstein
Yep. 7% in Truckload.
Alain Bédard
That is really the goal because, with peaks and valleys, when you have too many trucks, okay, because you are loaded with trucks for the peak, when the valley comes, you're just turned into a slave because you're stuck with the truck. That is the problem, okay.
Our goal has always been to have the number of trucks based on the valley or the trough, not the peak, right? Then when the market is great, okay, and the guy says, "I need more trucks."
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Just wait, because don't forget, if you buy a truck, you're stuck for 5 years, okay, with that truck.
If the peak is good for another 3 months, not too sure if this is going to be good for us, right? That is a different approach that we brought to Daseke, okay, and this is going to continue, okay, over the next few quarters.
The guys come to us with, "Oh, I need more trucks because I got more freight." Whoa, whoa, you got more freight for 6 months or 2 years?
Let's be careful. This is why we need some kind of a mix between asset-light and asset in the revenue stream.
Harrison Bauer
Great. Thank you for that color.
Operator
Thank you. That concludes our question-and-answer session.
I would like to hand it back to Mr. Bédard for closing remarks.
Alain Bédard
All right. In closing, I'd like to thank everyone for being on this afternoon's call and for your interest in TFI International.
We look forward to keeping you updated on our progress throughout the year and hope to see many of you at upcoming conference events. Please don't hesitate to reach out if you have any further questions, and I hope you enjoy the evening.
Thank you very much.
Operator
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