Impala Platinum Holdings Limited

Impala Platinum Holdings Limited

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Q2 FY2026 · Earnings Call TranscriptMarch 5, 2026

Johan Theron

Welcome to everybody joining us on the webcast and Chorus Call. Welcome to Impala Platinum's half-year results for financial year 2026.

We've published all of our results earlier this morning, I'm sure you've all had a view of it. We're just going to present a short video reflecting on some of the key highlights, and then I will pass over to Nico, Meroonisha, and Patrick to each just individually reflect on one or two issues in our results presentation, when we will then go again to Q&A.

We're really looking forward to this engagement. We'll take questions in the room, and then we will make sure that everybody on the webcast and equally on Chorus Call will have an opportunity to engage with the team here today.

Thank you very much. Without further ado, let's start.

I think for me the key highlights is the safety performance, very happy that we have had a continued improvement in our lost-time injury frequency rate. In our mining operations and processing operations, we've had an outstanding safety performance compared to our history.

This is a testament that our 8-point safety plan, it is actually working. Regrettably, we did have a loss of life involving a bus driver, but that does not take from the hard work that has gone into making sure that our key operations were fatal-free for the half.

From a sustainability perspective, we've had 0 limited, significant, or major impact environmental incidents. All our Southern Africa operations have retained their ISO certifications, and for the fifth consecutive year, we have been included in the S&P Sustainability Yearbook, an honor that is reserved for companies with strong sustainability management.

We have also retained our responsible sourcing certifications. On top of this, 57% of the water that we consumed was recycled water, and 31% of the electricity that we used was from renewable sources.

From an ounce production point of view, we performed very comparable to a year prior to this with less than 2% changes in either direction, but I think the biggest change has been the 40% increase in the rand basket price, and we are now blessed with a period where we can evaluate the best options to strengthen the business. I think you will see an increase in life at Impala Canada and at a number of our operations.

We have also seen the work we've been doing on the furnaces coming to fruition. We've also seen record milling in our base metal refineries on the back of the work we've done to upgrade our capacity in the refinery.

Overall, a very good, solid performance for the period on the production front. We delivered a strong financial performance supported by elevated PGM pricing as well as good operational delivery.

Revenue is up 44% to R60.8 billion. Our unit costs were up 11%.

We generated headline earnings of R9.3 billion and free cash flow of R7 billion. We ended the period with gross cash of R15.2 billion and adjusted net cash of R12.1 billion.

For the period ahead, our focus will remain on safety, particularly embedding the work on critical control management and also mental health of our employee. We are going to continue delivering on our social and environmental programs.

We're looking to complete construction of our 45-megawatt solar plant at Zimplats, and we're looking at progressing our concurrent rehabilitation efforts for our tailings side slopes at our Southern African operations. If we continue to deliver to plan and are supported by the elevated PGM pricing, we should deliver solid earnings and robust free cash flows.

This will allow us to basically reinvest in the business as well as providing meaningful returns to all our stakeholders. I think based on a very stable operating results for the last 6 months, our guidance for the full year has not changed.

We are either in the center or at the top end of most of the metrics. I think everything bodes well for the company to perform admirably during the full financial year.

Nico Muller

Good morning to everyone. Welcome here to all those present, the investment community, our own Implats people, and for everyone who's dialed in as well, welcome.

Always an honor to represent a very talented Implats team. Extraordinary times that we are living in.

We had a presentation from one of the consulting firms the other day, and it was very clear that we are going through a shift in global order. It's a new era that is being introduced.

We're seeing changes in international relationships, shifts, institutions, NATO. Trade paths are changing, supply chains are changing.

The move from globalization to multipolarity is accelerating. We've just recently this weekend seen a new event unfold in the Middle East.

All of this creates a number of consequences, one of which is uncertainty in future supply, particularly in natural resources, and in our case, critical minerals and metals. Critical can be defined in many ways, but one is if it's used in critical industries, like in Europe, the auto industry is a very important employer.

It affects politics, and so without our metals, there is a risk for the industry. Then also our concentrated supply globally with 80% of the world's PGMs being produced from Southern Africa, and the uniqueness of our metals, as it's been said many times over in the past.

Given these pressures and the uncertainty in supply chains, where will this metal come from in the past? There's a major topic of critical minerals and the hoarding of that.

We've seen, as an example, the $12 billion vault program announced by the US. We certainly are having similar discussions with other jurisdictions or representatives of industry in other jurisdictions where similar concerns are being echoed, where there's an engagement to determine the extent to which relationships can be formed to provide security for long-term supply.

In addition to that, we've seen the flow out of the US dollar towards hard assets, such as gold. We've seen record gold prices and other precious metals like platinum has now followed suit.

That is in part being the driving force behind the extraordinary rise of the PGM dollar prices. On top of that, if you look at the market fundamentals, we do see continual downward revisions in the EV penetration rates.

We have witnessed in recent times a shift in priority in decarbonization in general, particularly in the US. We have seen relaxation in terms of expectations of where the world wants to be in terms of, for instance, the percentage of fleet contribution of electric vehicles by certain dates, 2030 and 2035.

That has resulted in an increase in demand for our metals. We have seen an increase in demand from Chinese jewelry and certain industrial customers as well.

On the other side, we do have certain supply risks being acknowledged by the market. We have not seen the historical levels of investment in future supply.

I had occasion to sit with the four CEOs the other four CEOs of PGMs, and even in February, we were unanimous that it's not the right time to consider large-scale greenfields capital projects at this stage. If you look at the global order, the shift in world uncertainty, combined with shifts in the fundamental markets, that has given cause to the increase in metal prices.

As a consequence of the nature of the major forces, it is our contention that the price support that we're currently seeing is not a short-term one. This is not as a consequence of Donald Trump.

It's the Trump effect. It will outlast the current administration.

It's not reliant on who wins the next election. It's uncertainty.

Once you've asked these questions, those questions remain relevant, and you have to organize your country, your region very differently for a generation to follow. It is our belief that this current upswing in prices will remain longer than has been the case in the past, where we saw relatively short summers following very long winters.

If you look at our results, it's dominated by two major points. One, the production performance, both at mine operational level as well as in the processing division, and what we sold.

It's more or less in line, broadly. As I said in the video, you look at all of those numbers, it's like 0% or +1%.

It's round about there. That's the one thing.

The business has been in good hands. We have navigated through this period in a very stable fashion.

The one red flag that we need to be cautious of is the increase in operating costs, our unit costs increased by 11%. There are reasons for that that will be addressed by Meroonisha and our COO, but it is something that we have to be aware of.

I think cost management is something that we have to take into consideration, and the operating costs specifically. Then, of course, the other dominant factor has been this 40% increase in the rand basket price.

If you look through all of the financials, the entire industry is looking a lot more attractive than what it did in the previous period. Given the fact that we are where we are in terms of metal prices and then the increase in EBITDA and revenue and cash flow, it does provide us with a really important opportunity, and that is to change our strategic focus in the company.

During the lean years, we are very defensive. We focus on cost control, capital management.

We even go as far as organizing or reorganizing labor, and even do things like portfolio reviews to understand or to have a strategy if there is a further decline in prices. At the bottom there, it talks about an inflection point.

If I look at where the company is positioned now, the focus is different. We now have the opportunity to focus on how to strengthen the company.

Our opportunities, there's a funnel, a pipeline of opportunities starting off at the most basic level. Patrick and his team, with the support of Meroonisha and the rest of the executive, have already implemented through board support a number of early-action programs to initiate life extension projects.

They've occurred at Two Rivers, at Marula, at some of the shafts at Rustenburg. One of them has already been converted to a fully fledged capital application that was approved, and that's at 14 Shaft for roughly R1 billion.

That will provide us with life extension project. I am very confident that some of these other early works programs that were initiated will result in approval of additional capital, and based on Patrick's information, roughly we will look at a 3-year extension to our current steady-state 3.5 million ounces per year production profile.

Thereafter, we will require additional initiatives. That's the one part.

The second part is that we do believe that there is room for optimizing of the industry through various actions. One, there is the sharing of infrastructure.

Now we are constrained at the moment with our processing capacity and we have excess ounces, but in future, we do see a declining production profile. That will open up some processing capacity to share in the industry, and we do believe it's critically important for Southern Africa to protect local beneficiation of the metals.

I think that the opportunity to do so will increase as we go forward. Then there are the normal cross-boundary opportunities that always exist, and I can think about a few, but let me just raise one.

Please don't interpret this as me announcing any action, I'm just saying one of the areas that we've battled with in the industry is the Eastern Limb is an example. If you reimagine what the Eastern Limb could look like if it's operating as a greater unit, I think you can share concentrator capacity with mining capacity, but it will provide you with better muscle to create a more attractive area to get skill, a better range of skills in the area, and to do better at your socioeconomic contribution to increase the license to operate.

I think there is an opportunity. If I look at Zim, there are a number of emergent producers, Zimplats, Karo, and so on.

I think that there is an opportunity, not only for Implats, but for the industry to reimagine how it operates and to optimize to increase further efficiencies as an industry. I do think Implats is very well positioned.

We are represented in all the major PGM-producing areas other than Russia. We are in South Africa, Western Limb, Northern Limb, Eastern Limb, and as well as in the Great Dyke, as well as North America.

I do think that we're very well positioned. We do have a good track record in constructive partnerships, toll arrangements, joint ventures.

We have been operating in Africa where we focus on long-term strategic relationships, so that's something that we think is quite valuable in considering future options. Then we can ask more questions about it, but then there would be the questions about greenfields, the Waterbergs and the other thing.

As I said earlier, we remain cautious about introducing major new ounces to the market at this point, we do not expect to make any announcements about that soon. On that note, I would like to hand over to our esteemed COO, Mr.

Patrick Morutlwa.

Patrick Morutlwa

Thank you, Nico. Good morning everyone.

It is really a privilege for me to present our group results. I'll start with safety, health, and environment, which underpins everything we do in our group.

For the past 18 months, we have been implementing our 8-point safety plan, and I'm glad to say it is starting to deliver the step change in safety that we've actually envisaged. This is seen in some of the milestones we've achieved for the period.

Our mining and processing division, for the first time for the period, actually went fatal-free. Similarly, Rustenburg, one of our biggest operations, achieved 5 million fatality-free shifts in the period.

Also, if you look at our key risks, fall of ground, winches and machinery, we saw a 12% reduction in injuries, which is all symbolizing a strengthening of critical controls in those areas. While we are building on this momentum, we are equally humbled and also, grounded because of the two losses of life we've incurred, one in the period and one in a post the period.

We are reflecting, we are learning, and we will be taking these lessons to make sure that we implement no-repeat solutions so that we don't repeat this type of incidents. On the environmental side, our ESG programs continue to receive global recognition.

You've seen a video for the fifth year running, we have been included in S&P Sustainability Yearbook, and also during the same period, you have seen that we have not recorded any Level 3 to Level 5 environmental incident. We operate sustainably because this is the way we express our values of care, respect, and deliver.

Lastly on the health side, also that our health programs continue to deliver positive results. Our HIV and TB prevalence are well below the national averages.

The next thing for for us for health really is to focus on mental health and psychological health of our employee because healthy employees are engaged, they are safe, but they are also productive. Then moving over to production, we have actually delivered a steady and consistent production, which was really buoyed by second quarter, which was much stronger than the first half.

What you also see that this has happened despite three of our operations having some serious strategic shifts. At Marula, we focus on development.

At Canada, we continue with the high-grade strategy as previously communicated. Lastly, Rustenburg, three of our shafts are nearing end of the economic life, we had to deal with, labor movement in in in those shafts.

Going forward, in terms of processing, we also have seen strong performance, and this is also on the back of the work we have done. We have upgraded our BMR at Springs, and we've also done some design and maintenance work in Rustenburg furnaces.

You will see that for our BMR, we have actually recorded record milling, and also for this period, Rustenburg smelter performed very well above budget. As a result, we're able to release 20,000 oz of our excess inventory.

Usually, our release is, gravitated towards H2, but because of this good work, we're able to release 20,000. Our Furnace 4 have gone down for maintenance way ahead of schedule.

We should be able to restart now in April, and as a result, very confident to release 100,000 of excess inventory as promised at the start of the year. As Nico spoke about the cost, we were about 5.5% above mining inflation.

This was a deliberate decision to strategically invest in our infrastructure, particularly some conveyor belts in Zimplats and also improving our mechanized fleet across across the group. This will set us us well for the future to make sure that we can maintain a kind of production, but we also deliver into the future expectations.

As I stand here, I can safely say we will meet our our guidance on production, on cost, and capital for the year. Thank you very much, and I'll hand over to Meroonisha.

Meroonisha Kerber

Thanks, Patrick. Let me just get my notes.

Thank you, Patrick. I'm checking the time, still good morning everyone.

Clearly, the steady operational performance that you've seen enabled us to fully benefit from the 40% improvement in pricing. Let me just get there.

You'll see EBITDA up at R18.1 billion, headline earnings R9.3 billion, but I think what is noteworthy is that we did not have any unusual non-recurring items in our earnings for the period. As Patrick and Nico spoke about, given the improved pricing and profitability, we were allowed to reinvest in the business, you'll see some of that in our unit costs, where we took the opportunity with the improved cash flow to spend more on infrastructure and maintenance, and of course, some of that contributed to the 11% increase that you've seen.

That was particularly at two of our biggest operations, our Rustenburg operations and Zimplats. If you look at free cash flow for the period, there was a significant improvement from R600 million in the previous year up to R7 billion, and this was driven largely by the improved profitability, but some of this was offset by the build-up in working capital.

I think what's important to note is that at the end of the period, there was an additional tax payment that was due of R1.4 billion, and we made this payment in January, and basically was a top-up to our provisional tax. If you recall, there was quite a steep increase in prices in the month of December, and clearly we worked off forecasts that were done in November that didn't fully take into consideration the rapid improvement in pricing.

If we look at the balance sheet, we used the opportunity of the improved free cash flow to repay some debt, we repaid about R800 million worth of debt, mostly at Zimplats, and our gross debt declined from R1.8 billion down to R1 billion. Another very important thing we did in the period was our group revolving credit facility, I think it would have expired now in February, we took the opportunity to refinance it in Q2, and basically we upsized it from the just under R8 billion to R14 billion, and we managed to do this on very competitive terms.

The new revolving credit facility extends for 3 years, and we've got two. The reason that I mentioned the RCF is we've made some changes to our disclosure on net cash, in line with the new RCF, we amended the disclosure and definition of net cash to align to the RCF.

What this meant is that we now exclude the deferred revenue from the gold stream from the net cash balance, but also we are not now including the cash held at Zimplats in local currency in our cash balance. That really is because of the fact that that currency is not you cannot use it outside of Zimbabwe.

On this basis, our net cash increased from R8.1 billion to R12.1 billion, and with the undrawn revolving credit facility of R14 billion, we closed the year with liquidity headroom of just under R29 billion. I think before I go on to the next slide, I just want to point out a few things.

If I look forward, I think the company is really well poised to take advantage of the favorable metal price environment, and there's a few factors that I would like to highlight. Firstly, you've seen sustained operational delivery, and I have no doubt that the team will continue to deliver into H2.

We have got a track record of good cost discipline, and it is something that will receive focus, but I think our teams will deliver on keeping the cost tight. Our capital intensity is normalized, but we've got the ability and the capacity to further strengthen the business and invest in progressing our life-of-mine projects.

I think the other point, which is very important, is that we have expanded processing capacity and the excess inventory, and I don't think we must underestimate the flexibility this gives us to manage any operational challenges that we might have along the way, and it does support free cash flow generation. If I can then move on to capital allocation, after repaying about R800 million worth of debt and making provision for the R1.4 billion tax payment, the board declared a dividend of R4.10 per share or R3.7 billion.

This represents a payout ratio of 60%, about 60% of adjusted free cash flow, which is double our minimum policy, and if you take into consideration the tax payment that was due, it's about 80% of the available free cash flow. As a result of obviously prior capital allocation decisions, as well as completing a number of our strategic projects, there was limited capital that was allocated to growth and investment.

I think what the capital allocation should demonstrate is that overall, we have maintained our disciplined and consistent approach to capital allocation, and we have prioritized returns to shareholders. Lastly, as Patrick has alluded to, we will obviously end with the market guidance.

We're very pleased that we keep our guidance intact, and I believe, given where the business is, we are well on track to deliver within this guidance. With that, I'd like to hand over to Johan.

Johan Theron

Thank you. All righty, thanks to the team.

Happy to take some questions. As normal, I think let's start in the room.

There will be some roving mics. We'll pass that along.

Just for the benefit of people that might not see on the screen or the camera, just raise your name just so that everybody knows who's asking the question. Got a couple of hands up here.

Chris, let's start there with you.

Chris Nicholson

Good morning still, everybody, Nico and Johan and team. Thank you very much.

It's Chris Nicholson from RMB Morgan Stanley. A couple of questions, if I may.

You've provided a fairly optimistic outlook on the pricing environment. Maybe a bit of a surprise that you didn't accelerate maybe some of the capital projects to the same extent.

I hear you doing some early work. Could you maybe give us further detail specifically on Marula?

Is this akin to what was previously known as Phase 2 and what type of mine life extension you're looking to get there? Similarly at Impala Rustenburg, 14 Shaft and some of the other extensions, how long are you looking to extend mine life by there?

Then kind of linked to that, should we expect R9 billion of capex going forward? Is that a good level into these prices?

Then just second question, again, optimistic price outlook, I think some might be slightly disappointed with the dividend. You've seen another 2 months of very strong prices since year-end.

Just thought processes as to why you need to hold so much cash on balance sheet again. Thank you.

Okay.

Nico Muller

I think, Pat, if you don't mind, the first question is about the life-of-mine extension projects, the specifics and perhaps what they are going to cost and the expected life extension. Yeah.

Patrick Morutlwa

Let me start first with Rustenburg. As Nico said, we have already approved 14 Shaft extension.

It is taking the existing decline into the 18 Shaft area. It will give us 4 additional years literally maintaining the current production for another 4 years.

It is about R877 million. The early capital was approved the last quarter, work is continuing there.

Then again there, we have Rustenburg 20 Shaft, where we're now taking 20 Shaft into the still-drift ground. That work, we're still validating the feasibility study.

It should be coming to the board somewhere in August, I cannot share the numbers now, but it will also extend life approximately 5 to 6 years there. Then the last one is BRPM North Shaft is just taking the existing decline further, so that one, it will give us much more long life, and it will be between 10 and 15 years, and again there, early capital approved, we're executing.

The final capital numbers not yet finalized. Then moving over to Marula, Marula Phase 2 was closed given that at that time we were executing that project, the price, it did plummet.

As part of cost preservation, we did stop that. Now with the new prices, we have restarted the work, approved R40 million of early capital.

It's not going to be the same as Phase 2, we're actually doing small chunks, this project is now divided in four phases. Phase 1 is taking the Clapham Shaft two level down, and there will be a big chunk of capital to secure surface and visa infrastructure, then further chunks of capital to take both Driekop and Clapham down.

We have designed in such a way that we've got proper off-ramps, should the price plummet, which we'll be able to stop. The first phase that I spoke about, it will give us additional 5 to 6 years on top of the existing 6-year life left at Marula.

That's more or less high level on this project that we have undertaken.

Nico Muller

Patrick, the R9 billion capital, is that a fair expectation, or

Patrick Morutlwa

All right. Thank you for that.

I think you'll remember we gave you between 8 and 9. With this bolt-on project, you can add maximum R2 billion, I think max 10.5 because we'll start very slow and just ramp them a bit, but I don't see it going beyond 11 really.

Nico Muller

Chris, I just want to add, actually maybe repeat Patrick's words, but in a different form, because you asked, "Is it Phase 2?" and he said no.

I think it is, but the application of how we get there is different. In fact, the first time we did it, we had a R5.5 billion single project, and we had agreed off-ramp points, whereas this time we are saying there's no single R5.5 billion project.

There are going to be a sequence of smaller projects. We will have a consolidated assessment for the entire thing, which will be based on evaluation, but the implementation will have to meet certain performance hurdles as we go along for the next phase to be implemented.

Essentially, it's Phase 2 wrapped in a different color.

Patrick Morutlwa

If I may just add one thing, Nico earlier said, this project, it will push 3.5 million ounces by another 3 years. In addition to that, the ore profile within 10 years' time, if we did nothing, we're going to lose 50% of our production.

Now this project has also helped to slow down the decline. Within the same 10 years, if we do all these other projects, we will only be dropping by 15%.

They do actually extend life and the angle of decline.

Nico Muller

Sorry, I'm again butting in, but I think Tim will kill us if we don't talk about Canada, because I really think that there's an opportunity there. We have already extended the life to April '27, but the technical team at Impala Canada is working on a novel technology for us in the group, which is called dry tailings, which makes use of the filtered tailing plants, which enable you to essentially dry out the tailings and place that on the existing tailings dams, as opposed to creating a new greenfields tailings dam, which requires new licensing and permits and so forth.

The capital expenditure is quite intense, but that will provide Canada with not an incremental 1 year at a time life, but that will enable us to take a longer position, subject to the palladium price remaining at above $1,600 or something like that. Then we haven't quite spoken about Mimosa.

There's a few things to resolve in Zim specifically, but there is still the opportunity to consider some form of North Hill extension to life at Mimosa, which currently we're not speaking to because it's not currently in the works. It's being evaluated, and we've got a partner that we need to consult on the matter and so forth.

Meroonisha Kerber

Chris, sorry, the question on the cash. I think there were two parts to it.

The one was around why the R10 billion, and the other one was about the cash that we've made since year-end. Let me address the second part of it first.

Our policy, and we've consistently applied it, is when we look at the dividend, it's on the cash that was made in the 6-month period. If you look at the trajectory of the price, you'll see December we had the rapid increase, and then Jan, February, we've enjoyed these very, very high prices.

Also, you've got to take into consideration a lot of contractual sales, and we've obviously got the lag in the contractual sales, so that increase in December only really will flow through mostly in the second half of the year. To the extent that that flows through in the second half, that will be part of the free cash flow for the second half, and it becomes available for distribution per our capital allocation framework in the next 6 months.

Maybe just to add to that point is that if you just look forward at our capital allocation, there's a little bit of work to be done on the balance sheet, not a lot of debt, even if we want to do it, it's not going to take a lot of capital. Patrick and Nico have talked about our life-of-mine extensions, but there's no greenfields projects that we're looking at, all of that profitability should be available for distribution at the year-end.

The second question was really around the R10 billion and why the R10 billion. It's like running your bank account, nobody wants to run on an overdraft.

Here what we do is we look at what is the liquidity that we need for the group, and remember we've got entities in different jurisdictions, different currencies. The view that we have is that all of our operations should be able to settle its working capital and be able to operate for 1 month without resorting to borrowing of money.

That's how we get to the R10 billion. You can imagine that there's timing differences between sales, etc., and with IRS, there are big payments that need to be made, we need to be able to hold enough money in the required currencies in the required jurisdictions to be able to manage all of the timing.

There's no other science to how we get to the R10 billion.

Gerhard Engelbrecht

Thanks. Gerhard Engelbrecht, Absa.

Chris has asked the questions, I'm not going to flog a dead horse any longer. Can you maybe give us an idea of any near-future furnace maintenance projects, shutdowns that you have on the cards?

Johan Theron

Adele is here if she wants to speak to that.

Nico Muller

That's a good idea. Where's Adele?

She's at the back. You can perhaps just pass her the mic.

Johan Theron

Welkom, staan gou hier voor by my.

Adelle Coetzee

Good afternoon, it's now afternoon. Thank you for that question.

Yes, we have furnace maintenance, furnace rebuilding going on as per our normal maintenance philosophies and structures, and obviously to make sure that our infrastructure is sustainable going forward. As Patrick already mentioned, we have Number 4 Furnace that is currently in rebuild that we hope to get power on that furnace very soon.

Also on schedule as what was planned. We also will be having at our Zimplats operation in the coming year, not in the next 6 months, in our new year, we will be doing our end walls also as per our internal maintenance strategic plan.

Then going forward, as everyone should know by now, we are planning the rebuild of our future furnace, and we will commence with our rebuild, our new design in Rustenburg come July 2027, and that will be on the furnace Number 5. Hopefully that is answering the questions.

Thank you.

Johan Theron

Adele, just to put a final point on it, it's fair to say that we're back to normal furnace maintenance, the interventions are all behind us now.

Nico Muller

Sorry, Johan, if I can just add, as I do, just one one more point to that. Historically, if we went into furnace rebuilds, we would have accumulated additional stock.

The historical work that has been done on expanding the smelter capacity, as well as the 10% expansion of our base metal refinery, results in current capacity that prevents the build-up of stock. That's why we've only released 20,000 oz of the committed I think it's 110?

Johan Theron

110

Nico Muller

is what we committed to the market. I see that changed to 100 now, but I think we are on track, notwithstanding the maintenance on the smelter, to release 110 oz for the year.

I think that is quite noteworthy. Also, as Adele didn't mention, in the base metal refinery, [unclear] we have achieved record milling rates again, which prevents us from having to build up stock in front of the BMR.

The investments that we've made over the past 3 or 4 years has really paid off. Sorry, Johan.

Johan Theron

No, all good. One more question, Arnold.

After Arnold, we will give an opportunity on Chorus Call. If you're on Chorus Call, you can queue yourselves along, and then we'll move to Chorus Call after Arnold's question.

Arnold van Graan

Yes, thank you very much. It's Arnold van Graan from Nedbank.

Just want to go back to your capital projects, which you're doing in phases. Look, I welcome that because the last thing you want is everyone jumping in and just bringing on excess capacity.

My question is, how efficient is doing these projects piecemeal as opposed to the big projects? What I'm thinking about is further down the line, where you then ultimately will have to anyway do the whole thing, and my concern is that in the interim it creates inefficiencies in the system.

You're already looking at your cost number, and Nico alluded to that, that it's under pressure. How do you manage that?

What is different? Why did you previously want to do all of it in one go and now you're doing it in phases other than the balance sheet impact?

Nico Muller

Firstly, you can also contribute. You're 100% correct.

Obviously, if you have got a 5-year mining contract, you can do that once. If you do break it up in the different parts, you've got site establishment costs and all of that.

I think that there are ways to mitigate that to ensure that the different phases are dovetailed. They are performance conditions to the continuation, and that's where we need to see an improved Marula.

Marula even at current prices, if I look at the cash contribution of Marula, it is, if I to be honest, is below expectation. We want to incentivize ourselves and the operation and the project by making sure that the financial valuation on which these things are premised is in fact met.

I am 100% convinced with all of the additional face length that is being created and the improvements in infrastructure, we are going to get to a stronger position of confidence with Marula. At the moment, we think in spite of the potential cost inefficiencies, it is better for us to have a cautious approach to investing large sums of capital in a project that really requires some improved operating performance and project execution performance.

Yeah.

Patrick Morutlwa

I think the only thing I can add, Nico, is that let's say so that we do the evaluation of this project, the whole project, but then we divide into critical milestone to open ore reserves, but also that Milestone Number 1 should be able to pay for Milestone Number 2. Also again, like I said earlier, these are off-ramps.

Should the price plummet, we have not committed cash and have a lot of unfinished bits and pieces, because that's exactly what caught us the last time. I make sure that when the price plummets, we've actually delivered face length that can take the mine further.

It's literally just make sure that we don't commit cash all over, and when the price plummets, we have got a lot of unfinished bits and pieces.

Johan Theron

Pay as you go.

Nico Muller

Yes. One small last consideration, Marula has the option, if we can navigate through farm boundaries, of extending laterally.

We have just not been successful in achieving those agreements to the extent that we can. That will be a far more efficient capital investment per ounce generated.

We are hoping that between now and final execution at some point that we have an opportunity to settle on some of that potential, and that would then typically replace some of the deepening as an interim and shift Phase 2 later components further down the path.

Johan Theron

I'm going to queue to Chorus Call. I can see there's one question on Chorus Call, I'm going to hand over to the coordinator.

Operator

Thank you. The question comes from Nkateko Mathonsi of Investec Bank.

Nkateko Mathonsi

Good afternoon, and yeah, thank you for the opportunity to ask questions. You've spoken about life-of-mine extension, and I'm referring to Impala Rustenburg, but I also just want to get a bit of a confirmation as to how we should think about life-of-mine for some of the shafts that have a shorter life, and that's Shaft Number 1, Shaft Number 6, and E and F.

I think the last time I asked this question, you said 1.5 years, but prices have increased. You probably are able to keep these shafts going for a bit longer, if you can give us a little bit of guidance around that, that will be helpful.

Then also, my second question is very much on costs. We've seen you spend close to R1 billion on technology around winders.

Are there other areas that you're looking to do something similar in order to improve your asset reliability? What are the implications for costs beyond FY '20 FY '26?

Then I also have a question for Nico, and this is regarding Zimplats, and if Alex is there, he can also answer. I just want your experience of operating in Zimbabwe during your tenure.

From headline news, what I'm seeing is the risk is not necessarily declining there, and the latest news was the ban on unprocessed raw materials. Does not seem to affect you guys, but somehow it looks like the risk continues to actually escalate.

Then there's also the financial issue. If you can just comment in terms of how you are experiencing Zimplats at this point in time, how we should think about it going forward.

Those are my three questions.

Johan Theron

Thank you, Katleho. Moses, can we pass a microphone to you specifically on 1, E and F, 6 Shaft and your view with prices now?

Can we just get a microphone to Moses, please?

Moses Motlhageng

Thank you very much, Katleho. This time I've got your surname correctly.

Regarding 1 Shaft, Remember, in this current business plan, we've got 1 year for 1 Shaft, we've got 1 year for 6 Shaft, we've got 2 years for E and F. We are currently evaluating that.

As it stands, it appears that 1 Shaft will have additional year, and then 6 Shaft will remain on 1 year, and E and F will also remain on 2 years. There's not much of a change with the current blocks or reserves that we've got.

It looks like 6 Shaft will be out, E and F maybe 2 years, and 1 Shaft 2 years. That's for the shorter-life shafts.

Perhaps, Johan, I can also just jump on the capital that we are spending on our infrastructure. Nico spoke about spending a little bit more capital on the infrastructure, yes, it's correct.

When we look at the longer shafts, or the growth shafts, we are looking at upgrading all those winders to make sure that in a long term, they do sustain us even if the prices goes down. There's about a capital of just over R800 million that we want to spend it on our winder infrastructure.

We see that as an opportunity, especially during this price commodity that we find ourselves at. Thanks.

Johan Theron

Thanks, Moses.

Nico Muller

Let's just talk about Zim and the perceived risk with the jurisdiction. In my opening, I did talk about our presence in Africa and difficult jurisdictions.

We believe that long-term partnerships are absolutely critical. That has proven very successful for Implats throughout its 25-year presence in Zim right now.

Funnily enough, we've actually had worse times. I can remember there were times, Johan, prior to any of us joining, but we had to pay employees not in money, in groceries and so forth.

Difficulty in Zimbabwe is not new to us. What I will say is that we've got an extremely cooperative relationship between Implats, Zimplats, as well as government and the communities.

Just as an example, now for the second time that I'm aware of during difficult times, employees agreed to a salary reduction to accommodate the falling price. That's the kind of relationship that we have.

Having said that, the big issue at Zim is the uncertainty of policy and the shifts that happen from time to time, and that scares foreign direct investors quite a lot. If it's difficult, that's one thing.

If you're never certain what the rules are going to be in the next year, that is a different kettle of fish. I do find that at the moment for us, there is elevated risk, and so we are navigating through a process with government to address that, because our perception of risk has materially shifted upwards over the last year or two, and in part, it's the change in policies, but it's also got to do with retention of local currency that is owed to Zimplats in exchange for the foreign currency retention in terms of the policy of Zim.

In fact, Gerhard and I just had this morning an extensive meeting with Alex. We are scheduled to meet with SA government as well as with the Zim government, and I have to believe that a successful outcome will be achieved.

It has always been achieved in the past, and I am very confident that we will get to a similar position right now. Our posture will not necessarily change with immediate effect.

Johan Theron

Thank you.

Nkateko Mathonsi

Thank you.

Johan Theron

I don't see further questions on Chorus Call, I'm going to go to the webcast. I'm also cautious of time.

I'll try and group the ones that can be grouped all together. There's a question here from Adrian.

I think we've dealt with the two first parts of his question. The second one hasn't come up, which is, can you give us some color on some of your customer order trends in the auto space and some of the other minor metals?

I guess with all the volatility in prices, how does your customers engage and buy your metals? Sifiso, you're probably best positioned to talk to that.

Any news hot off the press from our customer base?

Sifiso Sibiya

Thank you, and good afternoon, everyone. From our customer side, we've seen increased requirements in terms of all of the metals, and the higher these rates are actually making our customers require metal earlier than they would normally do.

We've seen this during our H1 FY 2026, and the trend is still continuing. Thank you.

Nico Muller

Sorry, Kheti, Sifiso spoke about the existing customers, but the conversations that you have been engaged in during Indaba and recently, and perhaps how the focus of potential consumers of the metal I spoke earlier about some of the relationship requirements or expectations or hopes.

Kirthanya Pillay

Thanks, Nico. Good afternoon.

Yes, I think what we are seeing more broadly than, I think, the normal customer ongoing relationships is an increased focus from the OEMs and the end users to secure supply, as well as price certainty for the future. It's very much the story that was playing out in the BEV space a few years ago, where there is a requirement to create longer-term relationships than just the normal short-term fixed-price contracts, and to potentially, too, for the OEMs to move upstream and create these long-term partnerships with the actual suppliers and the miners of the metal on more attractive pricing, but largely to secure supply, particularly linked into this ongoing issue, as Nico mentioned, of more multipolarized world, and creating security for each of the regions in which these OEMs are operating in.

Thank you.

Johan Theron

Thanks, Khet. Interestingly enough, there's two people asking exactly the same question, René Hochreiter and David Fraser, specifically to Nico, and how did you reimagining of the Eastern Limb could look like.

Any thoughts on the Waterberg project and whether it's a different way of imagining it fitting into the world, specifically given its palladium dominance?

Nico Muller

No.

Johan Theron

All right, we've dealt with that one.

Nico Muller

The Waterberg project is in the Northern Limb. We are acutely aware that it has got a strong palladium bias, and that's probably the metal that we have with the least confidence in long term.

Palladium and rhodium. I do believe that there will be a place for the Waterberg project, but we do not see that as imminent right now.

Johan Theron

Perfect. Then I can probably conclude, and thank to all of the questions, and to the extent that we don't get to them, we will make sure we come back.

I think there's two or three that, again, specifically asks about the dividend, and given the metal prices, the good operating performance, was there any consideration of higher payouts or other ways of returning value to shareholders? That question is repeated by a couple of people online.

Maybe we have answered it, I think, but maybe in conclusion.

Meroonisha Kerber

I think, clearly, if you look forward, we are going to generate substantial cash, and I have spoken about allocations to balance sheet and growth and investment are not going to be significant. With that, there are going to be increasing returns to shareholders.

At the time when we look at the returns, we do have options. The one is to do what we've done in the past, which is to provide a sort of a special dividend by increasing the payout ratio, but there's also the option to look at a combination of these special dividends and potentially share buybacks.

We haven't undertaken one in the past, but I think at any point when we look at these surplus funds to return back to shareholders, we will have to look at what the most effective way to return value to shareholders at that point in time.

Johan Theron

With those great prospects, probably a good time to end. We're really, really looking forward to spending some time with you on the road.

For the people in the room, please join us afterwards. There is some snacks available, the whole management team is here, a good opportunity to ask those other questions that perhaps we didn't get to.

Then for people on the webcast and Chorus Call, thank you for joining us. We should see most of you on the road over the next week or two.

To the extent that you have any questions, please reach out to the team, and we'll endeavor to answer it as quickly as possible. Thank you very much.