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Q2 FY2026 · Earnings Call TranscriptAugust 7, 2026

Wee Ee Cheong

Good morning, and thank you for joining us. I think, given the global environment remain uncertain, I think the three local Singapore bank generally, I think result has been quite resilient, which is very encouraging.

Even on our side, we see healthy trade and investment flows, stronger connectivity Greater China and ongoing supply chain shift into the region. As businesses look to ASEAN for growth and diversification, I believe we are continue to well position to support them.

ASEAN is our home ground, our competitive advantage, and our engine of growth. Over the years, we have built a differentiated franchise with deep local strong customer relationships and value-added ecosystems.

We will continue to invest in our growth priorities. Let me just very briefly touch on three areas: wholesale banking, retail, and our priorities.

Our wholesale banking franchise continues to benefit from growing trade, investment, and connectivity across ASEAN. As clients increasingly operate across multiple markets, our regional footprint is a key differentiator.

ASEAN-4 is key growth contributing about 27% of wholesale and growing faster than the group. Transaction banking is a key pillar, contributing to nearly half of wholesale banking income.

Trade loans grew over 30%, while wholesale CASA deposit increased 9% year-on-year in the first half. We see encouraging momentum in foreign direct Southeast Asia with larger and more strategic Over the past decade, foreign direct investment into ASEAN more than double, even as global foreign direct investment declined by about Through our FDI Advisory Unit, supported more than 300 cross-border deals into the region in the last 6 months with projected investment totaling $5.6 billion Singapore dollars.

More than 60% of this investments are in and industrial sectors, reflecting digitalization ongoing supply chain shifts. These flows also create opportunities to deepen customer relationship across our retail and wealth businesses through our one-bank approach.

On the asset quality front, we are addressing a few legacy accounts, Greater China real estate. These are well provided for, and total credit costs remain within our guidance.

In retail banking, we have one of the region's largest franchises. ASEAN-4 markets now contribute about 35% of retail banking income and are growing faster.

The scale we have built strengthen our brand, deepen partnership, and enhances our ability to serve customer across markets. Our differentiated lifestyle solution help us in customer acquisition and engagement.

Our wealth income, which everyone of you are paying a lot of attention, grew 16% year-on-year in the first half, with ASEAN-4 up 30%. Growth was particularly strong in Malaysia, 29%, and Thailand, [18%?]

. Now, looking ahead, we are focused on these growth priorities: First, to unlock the full value of franchise.

With more than 8 million customers across ASEAN, the opportunity is to deepen and become the primary bank for more customers. Our new value proposition for affluent and emerging affluent customer is gaining traction, and we will continue to build on this momentum.

Second, to accelerate wealth growth, we see significant opportunities across our SME and business owner segments, and we are investing in talent, platform, and products while expanding our North Asia presence to support regional wealth flow. Our strategic distribution partnership with Allianz, which just announced yesterday, will further support our growth ambitions.

It will sharpen our focus on wealth advisory and distribution by combining UOB customer reach and advisory strength with Allianz investment capabilities. We will strengthen our wealth proposition.

This position us well to meet customer evolving needs and support their long-term wealth goals. Third, to continue to capture a larger share of the trade and investment flows across ASEAN and between ASEAN and the rest of the world.

ASEAN see more than US$200 billion annual FDI and more than US$2 trillion of trade flow. With our transaction banking platform, sector expertise, and regional network, we are well placed to support businesses as they expand.

Fourth, to reposition our Hong Kong franchise for more diversified and asset-light growth. Hong Kong remain an important gateway between Greater China, ASEAN, and the rest of the world.

Our focus is on building a more balanced franchise, including private banking and global markets. We, as usual, remain disciplined in how we allocate capital to drive long-term strategic priorities.

As you can see from recent announcement, we seek to unlock value, drive sustainable earnings, and enhance long-term shareholder value. At the same time, we are investing in our core business franchise, including digital platform, data infrastructure, cybersecurity, and customer experience.

We are committed to completing our $2 billion capital distribution plan by end-2027. Our ASEAN strategy is gaining traction.

The opportunities ahead are significant. We're well positioned to capture them through our regional network, strong customer franchise, and one-bank approach.

With that, I will hand over to my CFO to provide some financial detail. Thank you.

Leong Yung Chee

Good morning, everyone. Before I go through the financial details, let me take you through a few key messages.

The first, our franchise continues to deliver resilient performance amidst external uncertainty. The second-quarter numbers for us in terms of net profit after tax was $1.5 billion, representing a 10% up year-on-year against the same period last year.

The underlying business momentum remained healthy across all customer segments, complemented by some non-recurring gains from asset divestments. Secondly, our diversified franchise drives earnings stability.

I mentioned earlier across customer segments, but it's also within the segments in terms of product categories such as wealth, cards, and CASA in retail, and in wholesale business, trade lending and CASA continues to contribute to our balanced and sustainable earnings. Next, we continue to have adequate provision buffers.

Our credit costs remain within guidance. There is one specific exposure which I'll talk about as I go through the asset quality slides later on.

Lastly, in terms of capital position, our strong capital position allows us to support consistent shareholder returns. The board has declared an interim dividend of 88 cents per share.

This is consistent with our commitment to give a 50% payout ratio to shareholders. As CEO mentioned, our $2 billion share return program is on track.

We have completed 40% of the share buyback and will commit to complete or return a total of $2 billion by the end of 2027. Let me now move to some details around the recently announced deal with AGI, which is short form for Allianz Global Investors.

The purchase consideration was $555 million. This amounts to roughly a $330 million gain and an increase of CET1 ratio by around 14 basis points once completed.

The price reflects a valuation of about 2.5 times price-to-book and 1.3% of AUM. The partnership strengthens our wealth management franchise by allowing UOB to focus on open architecture investment solutions for our customers and reinforces our advisory-led approach to customers.

This allows us to focus on driving sustainable earnings growth and enhancing long-term shareholder value. I'll next go into the second-quarter results in more detail.

I mentioned earlier on, the second-quarter results delivered a net profit of $1.5 billion. That translates to an ROE of 11.8%.

Net interest income did ease marginally quarter-on-quarter, but with healthy loan growth and active balance sheet management, we were able to cushion the impact of margin pressure from the lower interest rate environment. Net fee income maintained positive momentum, rising 4% from the last quarter, supported by record wealth fees, which has helped to offset a moderation in investment banking activities.

Trading and investment income saw a 6% decline amidst fewer liquidity management and market opportunities. However, the customer treasury flows continued to hold steady, underpinned by healthy demand for hedging and investment solutions.

Asset quality was at 1.6%. NPA coverage, including collateral, improved to 306%.

Our capital and funding positions remain strong, with CET1 ratio at 15.4% and NSFR at 114%. I'll next move to the first half of 2026 numbers.

Net profit stood at $2.9 billion, resilient performance amidst macroeconomic headwinds. This was a 3% increase year-on-year.

Total income was flat compared to a year ago, reflecting the impact of lower benchmark rates and softer investment banking fee income. Other non-interest income remained resilient, supported by customer-related treasury activities and divestments.

Expenses remained well controlled, modest increase of 2%, underscoring our disciplined approach to cost management. Allowance for credit losses declined 27%, as the release of general allowance more than offset the specific allowance for a single real estate account in Greater China.

Now let me take you through the business lines. In our Group Retail business, the franchise continued to demonstrate and consistent and disciplined delivery.

Group Retail's income held steady at $2.6 billion, supported by strong growth in wealth and cards, which helped to offset margin pressures. Wealth delivered invested AUM and wealth income rising about 15% and 16% respectively year-on-year.

Net new money flows was $4 billion for the first half of this year. CASA mix has also improved from 57% to 58%, reflecting the strength and stability of our deposit franchise.

I'll next move to the wholesale banking business. Despite the twin headwinds of lower interest rates and heightened competition for quality assets, the transaction banking business remained a key driver of our wholesale banking franchise, contributing to nearly half of the segment's income.

Strong growth in CASA balances and trade loans supported that. Trade loans actually grew about 33%.

Customer treasury income rose 2% year-on-year on the back of sustained client engagement amid a competitive environment. Gross loans expanded 8% year-on-year, mainly led by demand from the technology and financial sectors.

Our diversification strategy continues to underpin earnings stability, with non-real estate sectors accounting for 72% of the portfolio and cross-border income at 28%, demonstrating our regional connectivity and client franchise. Next, in Global Markets, we saw a double-digit 15% growth year-on-year.

The treasury income from customer activities rose to a record half-year high of $584 million for the first half of 2026. This uplift was driven primarily by proactive asset liability and funding management, the effective deployment of liquidity, as well as timely capture of market opportunities.

Next, I'll touch on net interest income and margin. There was indeed loan margin compression, but mitigated by asset growth.

On the left-hand side, you would see that the average interest-bearing assets actually grew 7% over the period, and net interest income declined 8%, 3%. I'll cover a little bit more detail in terms of net interest margin movements.

The first quarter of 2026, we disclosed a 1.82% net interest margin. It saw eight basis points decline to 1.74%, and we're exiting the July, end of July timeline with 1.71%.

This was largely due to loan repricing in a lower rate environment. During the quarter, we did see healthy customer deposit and other funding inflows, but loan growth opportunities helped, and we deployed excess liquidity to support the net interest income.

SORA appears to be bottoming out and is expected to trend higher in the second half of this year, and that will support NIM. We continue to maintain a disciplined approach balancing between NII optimization and NIM management.

While we proactively pursue opportunities to enhance NII, we recognize that such actions may result in measured pressure on NIM in support of overall earnings performance. Next is on the gross fee income.

Despite record wealth fees underpinning our second-quarter performance, loan-related fees did soften, overall fees stayed flat. In terms of expenses, we grew expenses 7% over the period, reflecting our continued investments in strategic priorities, such as our people, technology, and regulatory activities.

We will continue to maintain a disciplined approach in terms of cost management. Next, I'll move to NPA formation and NPR ratios.

NPR ratio at 1.6%, with new NPAs at $902 million. This is largely the result of one real estate account in Greater China, which we have been monitoring closely.

The provisions that we had set aside in the third quarter of last year had taken this into account, and we continue to remain very proactive in reviewing and monitoring our credit portfolio. In terms of total credit costs, it stood at 28 basis points this quarter, or 27 basis points for the first half, both within our guided range.

Next, in terms of provisions coverage, it continues to remain adequate, with an NPA coverage at 88%, but when NPA coverage includes collateral, that's 306%. We're confident of the provision coverage that we have put in place, and our credit cost guidance of 25 to 30 basis points.

Briefly on customer loans, it's up 5% year-on-year. It is broad-based across business segments and sectors.

Healthy growth in wholesale term and trade lending, as well as continued expansion of our mortgage portfolio underpins these numbers. On funding, liquidity and funding positions remain very strong, with LCR at 159% and NSFR at 114%.

Capital, CET1 ratio at 15.4% post dividend payout. On a fully loaded basis, at 15.0%.

Next on dividend, I mentioned earlier on, the board has approved 88 cents per share. That's consistent with our payout ratio of 50%.

Our share buyback program is guided by a disciplined capital management framework. We have, as I mentioned, completed about 40%, which amounts to $794 million.

We remain committed to delivering this $2 billion capital return plan, either through share buyback or other means, by the end of 2027. In summary, the four key messages again: a set of resilient performance amid external uncertainty, a very diversified franchise that drives earnings stability, adequate provision buffers to navigate uncertainties in the credit portfolio, and capital strength supporting consistent long-term shareholder returns.

On the right side of the page, the 2026 outlook and guidance from us: for loans, low single-digit growth; full-year NIM of about 1.75% to 1.80%; fee income at low single-digit growth; operating cost of low single-digit increase; and credit cost of total credit cost 25 to 30 basis points. With that, I conclude my presentation, and we open the floor to questions.

Wee Ee Cheong

Thank you. We'll now begin the Q&A.

Any questions? Yeah.

Ritika Suvarna

Hi. Thank you for having us today.

I'm Ritika Suvarna with Bloomberg. I have a couple questions for you.

Let's start with MAS data roughly shows healthy loan growth in Singapore. Why is UOB still in the low to single digits?

Leong Yung Chee

Fee or loan growth?

Ritika Suvarna

Loan growth, sorry.

Leong Yung Chee

Loan growth at 8% in wholesale banking growth is low?

Ritika Suvarna

Yeah. Let me recheck that.

What is your outlook for loan growth in the second half of this year?

Leong Yung Chee

Sure. I think our full-year guidance for loan growth is at low single digits.

If you look at wholesale banking loan growth was about 8%, and our retail banking loan growth was about 4%.

Ritika Suvarna

How come UOB kept its targets largely unchanged that compared to the other two banks?

Leong Yung Chee

Which targets are you—

Ritika Suvarna

The 2026 outlook.

Leong Yung Chee

Earnings outlook? Our outlook for 2026 earnings is flat to 2025.

It's consistent with what we've projected.

Ritika Suvarna

Yeah. There were no changes to this year's outlook.

What will you do with the proceeds from the sale to Allianz?

Leong Yung Chee

You see, the sale proceeds from Allianz will only come in when the deal is completed, and that's expected sometime in 2027. I think it's premature to look at the allocation or the use of proceeds, but suffice to say, it will be used in terms of investing in capabilities to ensure sustained earnings for our shareholders.

If you're asking that in the context of potential dividends and so on, we will look at it holistically, taking into account the needs of the organization and where we are operating at the point in time.

Ritika Suvarna

You mentioned that the new NPA formation was largely linked to one account in Greater China. Can you give us more color on what drove that, and which market is it in?

Is it in Hong Kong?

Leong Yung Chee

Sure. It's one real estate client in China, but booked in Hong Kong.

Ritika Suvarna

Okay.

Leong Yung Chee

That explains why the complication around using the Greater China terminology.

Ritika Suvarna

Okay.

Wee Ee Cheong

Can we get any other question? Grace, from Reuters?

Marie Mannes

Good morning. Thank you for the presentation.

I have two questions. The first one, the 2026 outlook of fee income at low single-digit growth, the previous quarter, I think, it was mentioned high single digit.

Just wondering what's the reason for the lower forecast. Secondly is, just wondering what's UOB's exposure to the iron ore trader Radian World that was in the news overnight regarding Deutsche Bank freezing some of the Singapore accounts?

Leong Yung Chee

On the second question, first, we never comment on customers specifically. On the first question was around fee guidance, right?

Some of the fee deals in the pipeline have been pushed into the second half of the year. I think with some of the pushback in terms of our pipeline, it does not look like a high single-digit fee income guidance would be accurate to reflect.

We're guiding to a low single-digit fee income.

Marie Mannes

Okay. Thank you.

Wee Ee Cheong

Manu? Good

Ben Lau

morning. Thanks for the presentation.

Earlier, Mr. Wee mentioned about to accelerate wealth growth, you see significant opportunities across SME and business owners.

Could you expand what these opportunities are? Then you also mentioned investments in talent, platform, and products.

What do these investments mean? Is this also sort of a way for UOB to differentiate itself in the wealth proposition?

I think

Wee Ee Cheong

it's a good question. I think generally we are focusing on one bank, right?

Yes, as far as the private banking side, on a stand-alone, we will continue to improve the platform and improve the product, taking in more headcount. The fact is we are selling our asset management to Allianz, and Allianz is a global fund managers that will accelerate our wealth.

Then we'll continue to sharpen, continue to take our capabilities stronger as well as better customer outcome. That itself, right, is taking care of, right?

When I talk about one bank, that cut across the wholesale, part of it corporate banking, the SME, the whole regional franchise. Right?

You can see the growth is actually double digit. This is where I do think we have the competitive advantage.

We have the most comprehensive footprint. Secondly, UOB, we started this Foreign Direct Investment units 12 years ago, and you can see the traction of getting the people to invest.

That has nothing to do with the wealth. That we are talking about companies who are interested.

A company, to a certain extent, are owner-driven, some of them. The wholesale piece would double up to complement our private banking, right?

Are they able to do it? Because given our footprint, all this foreign direct investment, when they come to Singapore, they will see UOB has the most comprehensive.

The likelihood, everything equal, they will bank with us. When we support them in the business, right, and no reason for them, everything equal, they will give us a piece of the wealth business.

This is where I think at the moment, this is our competitive advantage that we will continue to push, right? At this point in time, we are continue to improve our infrastructure.

No point to push something if your infrastructure is not ready. End of the day, we are going back to the customer service, going back to the accuracy of reporting and all that.

We don't want to shortchange our customer. We want to make sure that the whole infrastructure is well in place.

Actually, we already in place, we are just fine-tuning some of this to align our interest, right, between wholesale and retail. I think for the next one, two years, you start to see the growth will be And we openly articulate that we want to double our wealth fee.

This is where we are coming from. I don't know, Yong Ji, you want to add on?

Leong Yung Chee

I think that's absolutely right. I think that was what was driving the whole partnership with Allianz, right?

We did earlier communicate the ambition to double down on wealth. If you sequence through the steps that we are taking, record wealth fees, the shifting of our AUM, invested AUM mix up to 42%.

You look at the partnership that focuses on open architecture platform, but with a long-term partnership that enhances the products that we make available to customers. I think that reinforces what we said we were going to deliver.

There was one other item regarding the fee outlook conversation. Aside from some of the sizable deals that are shifting into the second half, they are delayed, they're not going away, but there was also an element where credit card fees, which today roughly accounts for about a third of our fee income, the outlook has changed for that as well.

That outlook has changed primarily because there've been some shift in spending patterns of consumers, and the shift in the patterns have resulted in lower interchange fees in the buckets which they spend on. There are also cost pressures arising from higher air miles redemption as people travel more, and there have been higher scheme fees by the interchange as well, yeah, primarily from Mastercard and Visa.

That's the basis of some of the fee adjustments.

Wee Ee Cheong

Also just to answer you, venture with Allianz, given the very overcrowded wealth activities generated by every bank, then even every bank is having open architecture, that arrangement will give us a lot of borrowed strength, right? We just want to focus on distribution.

I don't want distribution, manufacturing, that aggregate I will have a bigger problem to solve, bigger challenge to solve. They solve the product capability for us.

We focus on the platform, the customer-facing that we do. Hopefully, we are in a better position to do that.

That is the whole— The

Leong Yung Chee

partnership allows us to co-create solutions with the capabilities that they bring, but with the very local knowledge that we have in the markets that we operate in. That ability to co-create solutions was one of the reasons why we've tied up with a global asset manager.

Any other questions? Straits Times?

Two questions, yeah. One is on, does manufacturing a fund management product take up capital?

Leong Yung Chee

Sorry,

Wee Ee Cheong

not so much taking up capital, it's the people that you have to attract, it's the infrastructure that you have to build. Today, with AI, with all the infrastructure, with the continuous challenge on protecting the customer on scams, we have to focus as a bank, protect them, right?

Because otherwise, my technology is going to have a challenge. Fund management, banking, insurance company, too much attention.

We just want to focus what we think we can do better. Just remember, we acquired Citibank portfolio.

We have to dig in. The 8 over million customers, in fact, is growing organically, right?

We have the beautiful product, consumer product. We just have to approach a one-bank approach to sell them the wealth, the mortgages, the credit card, right?

Leave the fund management, because fund management is a big industry. You need scale.

Without the scale, by the time you invest, your return is not going to be good. We are very focused on ROE, okay?

We just want to make sure it's asset-light, do the right thing. Hopefully, the next few years, will start to see UOB will navigate into a different shape of the payment.

Would you have a target for the ROE? Because you say you wanted to focus—

Wee Ee Cheong

12%, 13%. This is what we want to target.

I can tell you I want more, but at the end of the day, let's be realistic. The 12% to 13%, we still need to invest, right?

Our data center, our call center, we still need to invest to provide better customer service,

right? My last question, Mr.

Wee. You said you are selling non-core assets such as the asset management

Wee Ee Cheong

[laughter],

you sold the properties, you've been talked about selling One Raffles Place—

Wee Ee Cheong

Yes.

Are there any other non-core assets in your stable? You've got so many companies.

Wee Ee Cheong

I think that is something from time to time we review, okay? That is also our strength, right?

A lot of other banks, they don't even have non-core to sell, okay? That is our strength.

That is our operating model. For the last 10 years, we have been selling property.

Some of branches, we buy, we sell, and that is part of our model. It's no different than any investment banking.

They buy a stock, they sell at a high price. That is our business model.

The visible one, of course, is OUB. That was during the takeover, right?

We happen to inherit. You put yourself, you are in this building, and my next building is also owned by us

in

Wee Ee Cheong

Singapore. And 2 months ago, we were in Vietnam.

We want to build our Vietnam center.

Did you buy that? Is that built?

Leong Yung Chee

Yes,

Wee Ee Cheong

yeah. I'd rather have the money and diversify, right?

Vietnam is also a good bet, 100 million population. If you grow, this is where opportunities, right?

Otherwise, in Singapore, not that I have no confidence in Singapore, but the concentration.

Leong Yung Chee

If I may supplement, I think the buying and selling of properties is very much linked to the operations and the footprint that we need, and that happens quite regularly, right? Just like we've repositioned some of the assets in Orchard Road, we've bought assets in Vietnam.

For the asset management transaction, I would say, look at it on the merits of the specific transaction. The deal is not reflective of a broader program to start divesting everything in our portfolio, yeah?

Our medium-term strategy is always about constantly reviewing our business mix towards capital-light, higher-ROE activities, and this is driven by our wholesale and retail banking business. Wealth is an important part of that.

We do all that while maintaining prudent risk management and making sure that the balance sheet is resilient for us to navigate.

Wee Ee Cheong

I think I echo what Yong Ji said, right? You look at our capital, strong, no issue.

I don't need to divest something to not. Otherwise, I had too much capital, then you ask me the next question.

Your ROE is too low, right, if you have too much

Wee Ee Cheong

capital? Then, can they pay more dividend?

I need the safety. I need the saving in case of crisis, this is part and parcel of prudent management, okay?

Non-core is a good thing. After selling all the non-core, they have nothing, right?

Then the next thing, I will sell all the loan assets, right? Oh, but

Leong Yung Chee

some banks do sell their loan assets.

Wee Ee Cheong

This is why some of the bank are doing all this. I think we are in a good position.

We have to stage it. We have to optimize it.

We have to see right opportunity. That you have to trust management to do the right thing.

As far as you are concerned, you have to be either by ROE, the return, the prudent, the relevant. Size in banking is not everything, right?

To be a good bank, you have to be relevant. You have to be relevant to the economy.

You have to be relevant to the SME. It's not just size.

It's just a size, it's easy for me. I can buy government bond, I can buy bond, I don't have to deal with all this.

The government, I'm sure, appreciate us, right, being relevant to the society, being relevant to the SME, right? We're all helping the economy to grow.

Leong Yung Chee

I think Vivian had a question from BT.

I have two questions. The first is regarding China's new tax rules on outbound investment and trusts.

What would the potential impact on the bank be? Have you seen any change in clients' behavior following these changes?

My second is on AI. Do you see AI becoming a meaningful growth driver in the bank?

Is it showing up in income?

Wee Ee Cheong

He's on top of all this AI.

Leong Yung Chee

Vivian, on the first question, first, I think it's a fairly recent development. We are still assessing the impact.

We don't see any material impact at first instance, but it's still something we're watching carefully. On AI, it has become something very ingrained in the bank.

More than 30,000 of our staff have Copilot, Microsoft Copilot, at their fingertips. There have been more than 300 use cases rolled out across the bank, and they come in various forms.

It's no longer a buzzword that we're using. This has become organic in terms of how our staff operate.

I think even within the branches today, if a customer was to walk into a branch and ask a question where the teller may not have access to information readily, they have beside them a laptop that's already equipped with what we call them BYOB, which is build your own bots, which has been curated with all the knowledge and frequently asked questions that helps them. For example, if a customer comes in and asks what's your latest rates and so on, this ensures that the consistency of information and accuracy of information is available at the fingertips of our people.

It augments what they have to do.

In terms of income, is this kind of showing up anywhere?

Leong Yung Chee

We are measuring some of the impact, but the measurement of this impact is through a very deliberate approach where we've hired an external auditor to help us with the structuring and modeling of a framework. We expect this framework to be ready towards the end of this year, and we hope to be able to report this regularly in our financial and annual reports going

Wee Ee Cheong

forward. AI is something that every bank is doing, okay?

In fact, the whole country is doing, okay? It's a matter of you can be faster, tomorrow I will catch up, okay?

It's a very scientific approach, but more important for us is the human factor. We are taking in a lot of young graduates, or even our existing people, is to train them to be smarter than the machine.

Otherwise, they let the machine, right, analyze for them. It's good to provide a second opinion.

If you have RM who has the EQ, who has the empathy, who is relationship-conscious, that equipment everyone has. You are our people, you're our banker.

This is what we want them to be better, come with the machine. Banking is people business.

If I don't interact with you every day, look at the machine and make the decision.

Leong Yung Chee

We'll take a question from online, sorry. Altra from Reuters has a question.

Can you unmute yourself, Altra, and ask your question?

Wee Ee Cheong

See, online these are machines, right?

Leong Yung Chee

Maybe we'll take your question first, Ritwika. Oh,

Ritika Suvarna

yeah. I was just wondering, with token costs increasing, are you at all considering Chinese LLMs as an option to use, because data shows that they're cheaper, more cost-efficient?

Does UOB only work with Copilot? Is it LLM agnostic?

Leong Yung Chee

No, I think technically the approach is more like having a harness that's open to different LLMs that can support the use cases and applications. The infrastructure that we're building is looking at something which is neutral, that allows us to adopt different LLMs from different providers.

Ritika Suvarna

Including Chinese?

Leong Yung Chee

Including Chinese.

Ritika Suvarna

Now, what we should also bear in mind is that the increased use in terms of energy consumption and cost of compute and availability of such resources is going to be increasingly punitive as everyone competes to get hands on these resources. That's something to keep in mind in terms of the cost impact, as well as the environmental impact.

That's something I think as an organization, given our commitment towards sustainability goals, it's something we are very mindful of and making sure that we are doing this in a responsible manner.

Leong Yung Chee

I think we'll take one last question from Felicia.

Mr. Wee, you mentioned growth priorities.

We were just wondering whether you have more color in terms of your plans to invest in capabilities and expand your North Asia presence, and you also mentioned that you want to reposition your Hong Kong franchise, and you mentioned diversified and asset-light growth. Do you have more color on that?

When you say expanding, are you talking about sectors, or more branches, or what? No,

Wee Ee Cheong

I think generally we have to improve our delivery, right, to a certain extent, because you talk about the whole ASEAN. We have to take advantage of this digital.

Our Tomorrow app is something that we are working on, because today digital do provide competitive advantage. Because we standardize our technology platform, that make it easier for us to develop and speed to market.

This is something that is important. Secondly, to attract the people, right?

We want to attract people who are able to help us to build. I don't need a people to manage, I need people to help to build: the builder, the entrepreneur, the business people.

Because our AUM is not as strong, not as big as the wealth bank. How to increase, right?

How to build, this is where it's not someone that manage. That is very important, right?

It's not just taking in people. Taking in people, you can take a lot of people, but the quality of the people that we are looking.

It's a people, it's the delivery, the product. As we say, we sold off our asset management, and this is where we hope our partners can help us to improve our product capabilities, okay, and hopefully the speed to market.

No point to have a platform, but your product is not aligned to the customer, right? These are the big picture that we are looking at.

All this will cut across the whole region,

right?

Leong Yung Chee

If I could make one more comment, I think on AI, I just want to leave you with some stats as well, because I think we tend to talk about AI without numbers. We mentioned earlier on about 30,000 of our staff, including those in the region, have tools enabled for them already at their fingertips.

The number of Copilot prompts we see across the system totals more than 400,000 prompts per month. That gives you a sense of the level of engagement that staff is using the tools.

I gave you a specific example of how in our branches people are using it to supplement responses to customers when they need to. That utilization is about 50% to 60% on average per month.

That means while they are mostly able to handle the questions, in cases when they need to supplement facts and figures that they are not sure of, that utilization we're seeing about 50% to 60%.

Wee Ee Cheong

All right. Thank you.

That's all the time we have today. Thank you, everyone, and do reach out if you have any further questions.