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Q4 FY2025 · Earnings Call TranscriptMarch 12, 2026

James Lorimer

Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for standing by, and welcome to the DATA Communications Management Corp.

fiscal 2025 financial results conference call. I'm James Lorimer, CFO of DCM, and I'm pleased to be hosting today's call.

Joining me on the call today is Richard Kellam, our president and chief executive officer. Following our prepared remarks, we will be moderating a Q&A session.

As a reminder, this conference call is being broadcast live and recorded. We'd also like to remind everyone that Richard and I could be available after the call for any follow-up questions that you might have.

Before we begin, I will remind everyone that we will be referring to forward-looking information on today's call. This information is subject to certain risks and uncertainties as outlined in the forward-looking information disclosure in our press release and more fully within our public disclosure filings on SEDAR+.

This presentation will be added to our website for your reference, along with a post-view recording and transcript. Detailed information is also available on our website and SEDAR+.

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Richard Kellam

Good morning and good afternoon, good evening to anybody joining from other time zones. Our agenda this morning is very clear.

We're just going to hit the highlights of '25, talk about some capital allocation, look at our priorities, and turn it over to Q&A. Thank you, James.

First, I've got a summary of our highlights. I'd say anybody looking at this slide, our key theme on the year was controlling the controllables, and there was a lot of controllables we need to control.

Looking at revenue results, everybody read our release came out last night, the revenue decline was pretty much in line with consensus at -6.2% on the year. That really was reflecting lower spend on several large enterprise accounts.

As shareholders know, about 93%, 94% of our revenue comes from large enterprise. A lot of those large enterprise accounts obviously had some headwinds, and we did not offset that with new customers given, although we did bring in several new customers, just given time to revenue, which as you know is long in our business.

With that said, we did a very good job controlling the controllables, and our adjusted EBITDA came in at $60.4 million and 13.4% margin. That was really due to the spending discipline mitigating the declines in some of the gross profit and obviously the revenue headwinds we experienced.

We also generated strong free cash flow, well up over a year ago, and you'll see that in a chart coming up shortly, of $13.4 million. We've done I'd say a very good job returning capital to shareholders.

Again, you'll see a chart coming up. Our capital return to shareholders is about 6- $17.6 million in the year.

On the uncertainty side, again we worked hard to manage through some market uncertainty. You saw that through the quarters, the tariff uncertainty and that impacting budgets in large enterprise accounts.

We obviously had the uncertainty and the unexpected headwind from the Canada Post labor disruption. Canada Post is a large client of DCM's, as well as the knock-on effect to all the other clients we service from a mailing perspective, so that certainly impacted our year.

Thankfully, that's behind us, as we'll talk about in the '26 outlook. We did a very good job, as I said earlier, of managing and mitigating some of the revenue headwinds with operational efficiencies and driving SG&A productivity.

You'll see in a chart coming up that we actually reduced SG&A by $7.8 million in the year. On the digital and AI activities that were delivering to the business, we've had some very good success in the year.

We actually grew our tech services revenues by 4.2%. Obviously well above what we experienced on our core print business.

We're now about $21 million in tech services revenues, and that's almost 5% of total revenue. Shareholders may remember that we launched Content Cloud, our AI-powered digital asset management solution, we're proud of getting that to market, the success we're delivering.

We've got good momentum with several verticals, but one in particular are the government and municipal services. We were just up against a pretty large RFP and pretty large competitive shoot-out, and we secured a good piece of business there on government, we're finding our lane and securing some good wins there.

Then from an operational perspective and from a commercial perspective, we're using a lot of AI in our workflows today to drive productivity improvements. I'd say we're all in on AI from an operational perspective and from a commercial perspective as well.

Finally, we've been building a good, solid M&A pipeline now that all of our restructuring, integration, IT integration is behind us. We can now look to opportunities for M&A, and we've been building that pipeline.

The market is good. Certainly, the macro uncertainty is creating some opportunities on the sell side, and we're well-capitalized to consider any M&A as we work through 2026.

Overall, we managed well through the market uncertainty we experienced. Team did an excellent job to kind of manage those headwinds and maintain profitability while also returning significant cash to shareholders.

It's kind of the overall highlights, and we'll get into a few details as we flip through the file here. James?

Okay. From a revenue perspective, as I said, -6.2% for all the reasons I said, but if you do look at this chart and you look over 5 years, you do see, despite the revenue headwinds we experienced in 2025, we're still managing a business that is almost twice the size of what it was in 2023 and managing it quite successfully.

Obviously, we'll see those revenue headwinds turn to tailwinds and then we'll have a nice, kind of virtual circle over time as well. Business is still solid.

There's been no material losses in clients. Again, you can see from this chart that we're still managing a very sizeable business north of $450 million in revenue.

Gross profit, obviously, with factory overhead recoveries and utilization was impacted. You can see that, just around $117 million in gross profit, gross margin of around 26%.

Again, we'll see that come back as revenue growth returns. We've built a perfect operational footprint, to now grow from, and we'll see that naturally kind of return to historical levels as we have revenue growth come back into our business.

Good. Just adjusted EBITDA, as I said earlier, we're happy with the delivery of $60 million.

It's pretty much in line with consensus. Still slightly down versus a year ago.

A year ago was our high-water mark, of course. Down for all the reasons I said due to the headwinds.

Again, if you look over the course of the last 5 years, we're up 70% over that horizon. As I said earlier, with the operational efficiencies, the consolidation of our network that we completed, and the return to revenue, you'll see that turn into a nice kind of virtuous circle, as we call it, where margins will improve.

Not a lot of restructuring in our plan, you'll see a natural improvement in EBITDA as that revenue comes back into our mix. James, free cash flow?

James Lorimer

We had a solid year in terms of free cash flow. We delivered $13.4 million, up about 145% over last year.

A lot of the CapEx that we invested in, particularly in 2024, to modernize and upgrade some facilities following the MCC acquisition and integration, is largely behind us, we see CapEx kind of being in similar levels to what we saw in 2025 going forward. Solid balance sheet.

We continue to pay down debt, our leverage just below 2 times net debt to EBITDA at the end of the year. That's down 2.2% on a net debt basis compared to last year and significantly almost 50% since the MCC acquisition.

This is in addition, I guess, complementing the returns to shareholders that we completed last year. Credit facility, we have solid lines and certainly a good balance sheet to pursue M&A activity and continue our capital return plans.

Richard Kellam

Supporting a comment that I made earlier about our productivity improvements and our headcount, kind of rigorous headcount management, you can see in this chart, productivity has improved considerably. Headcount was down 4% this year, and our headcount's down 22% over the last 3 years.

You can see that our SG&A, as I mentioned earlier, down 9%, or $7.8 million. Good job controlling the controllables and continue to manage productivity, effectiveness, and efficiency of our teams.

Really pleased with the progress we made there as an organization. You can see that our percentage on SG&A is down below 18% now, which is what we put in plan a couple of years ago.

James Lorimer

From a capital allocation perspective, we deployed a little over $21- $21.8 million of capital last year. That included special dividend that we announced in the first quarter of last year, as well as regular recurring 2.5 cents per share dividend.

You can see that the total capital deployed of $21.8 million is up over last year, but a big portion of that is dividends. We commenced a normal course issuer bid last year in June.

In aggregate, we did return approximately $17.6 million of capital through the special dividend and the quarterly dividend paid out last year, as well as about $1 million worth of share share repurchases. Current kind of trading levels, we're trading at about a 6.8% dividend yield.

Richard Kellam

Okay. Moving on to 2026, which we're well into now, obviously.

There's certainly some early signs of market stabilization. Demand trends are beginning to stabilize.

Obviously, the Canada Post disruption is behind us, and we're starting to see clients now returning to some of the discretionary mailings that they were doing. Personalized direct mail is an example.

We're starting to see that return into the business mix this year. Then we've got a lot of new business activity.

Some of the work that we did last year that I said is longer-term and longer time to revenue will start flowing through into our business this year, as well as some good, what we call Horizon 1, kind of in-year revenue opportunities that the team is working to deliver as well. We like to say that execution is a strategy, we will stay relentlessly focused on execution.

Still a little uncertainty around tariffs, but we know how to mitigate and manage through that. Then as James mentioned earlier, we do have a very strong balance sheet and cost discipline to provide us that resiliency and flexibility as we progress through the year.

Our priorities for 2026, these are four key priorities for us throughout the business. One is to maintain high revenue retention rate.

I said there's no regrettable losses in our business, and execute on new customer development initiatives, as well as opportunities to kind of land and expand some new clients as well. Second is to improve gross margin through business mix, through our operational efficiencies, which we've done a great job at, and there's still even more levers we can pull.

Obviously that gross margin will improve as we see revenue growth come back into our mix, as well as drive our digital acceleration. You saw the over 4% growth last year.

We see a lot more growth opportunity in our business there, and that digital portfolio is at a higher margin as well, so that obviously improves our mix. The third is to generate strong cash flow and continue to deliver capital returns to shareholders and continue on our debt repayment.

Then finally, as I mentioned earlier, leverage the current market environment to be opportunistic on M&A, and we've got a good pipeline that we're working through right now. Some interesting opportunities that we're certainly considering.

Our key theme really focus on profitability, on cash flow generation, and continue to work on leadership opportunities in this sector and obviously business development and business growth and opportunistic M&A, to summarize. A lot of priorities.

We're well-positioned in the current environment. As James said and I've said a couple times, we've got strong operating performance certainly in uncertain and unpredictable environments.

We're seeing a little bit more predictability this year. We've got solid cash flow generation.

We've got very good new business development activity levels and pleased with Horizon 1, Horizon 2 activities that are in the funnel right now. We certainly have a solid track record of execution.

We know how to integrate, restructure, manage overheads, and we do know how to manage revenue acceleration in positive environments, of course, and we're certainly going to be seeing that this year. M&A, we already talked about.

We've got a very good and experienced leadership team. It's been around for a while.

I'm 5 years as of a couple of days ago, certainly experienced team around me as well with many more years. We're well-capitalized with excess available capital to pursue opportunities in the market.

That's where we're going in 2026. The year '25 is behind us, and we'll now turn it over to Q&A.

James Lorimer

Thanks, Richard. We'll now take questions from the audience.

If you have a question and are accessing the call through Teams, you can use the raise your hand feature, and we will cue up questions. Alternatively, you can also use the chat feature, and we'll respond to chat questions as well.

We will unmute your mic when we cue you into the call. We have first call from Noel Atkinson.

Noel?

Noel Atkinson

Hi, it's yeah, Noel Atkinson from Clarus. Good morning, Richard and James.

Thanks for taking our questions. That was a good overview.

Just in terms of your 2026 outlook, that sounds a little more rosy than perhaps what you were talking about 6 months ago for '25. We're mostly through Q1.

How has sort of business activity or sentiment been so far Q1?

James Lorimer

We can't talk specifically to Q1, Noel, just because we're pretty well advanced there. Overall, we are seeing a little bit of a stabilization.

We are still seeing some headwinds in the economy, but a lot of the kind of key macro things that Richard talked about, we're optimistic that as we kind of get through the year, we'll start to see a little bit of a bounce back. Canada Post, which Richard alluded to, the unions are voting over the next short little while.

The kind of proposals have been tabled to the union, we're optimistic that that will be supported and certainly expect some kind of bounce back there, as well as in some other sectors that were a little bit quieter last year.

Richard Kellam

We've secured some recent RFP wins, Noel, that will come into our business later in the year, but we've been quite successful recently on securing some recent wins in the marketplace.

Noel Atkinson

Great segue to my next question. Transcontinental, in their most recent quarter, they were talking about price concessions that they've had to eat in their sort of remaining print and publishing business.

Are you guys also having to compete more aggressively on price or are you seeing existing clients being more price-sensitive as we go into '26?

Richard Kellam

There was definitely a lot of price sensitivity in the market even in 2025, Noel, and especially on the commercial print side where there's capacity and capability in the marketplace. We had to compete more aggressively on commercial print.

When I say commercial print, think of some of the low-SKU, long-run business. Certainly, there is some pressure on price, but more, it's more acute I'd say on that commercial print area.

Where we bring value, obviously, where there's digital solutions that manage workflow for a client or we're well-embedded in tech-enabled solutions, that isn't under the same margin pressure, obviously.

Noel Atkinson

Okay. Great.

Then one more quick one. Just, okay, you mentioned AI and you're using it for productivity internally, and that's great.

We've seen media reports of sort of dislocations in search engine marketing and paid search and organic from having AI agents in the search engine results, such as Google Gemini. Are you seeing any clients that are kind of responding to this by moving more budget back into print or other solutions that you guys offer?

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Richard Kellam

you want to talk to that, James?

James Lorimer

Look, we're not seeing that yet. Certainly, on, I'd say, personalized loyalty or personalized direct mail, certainly, there was a move to digital during the postal strike, but we know that digital doesn't convert at the same level as physical.

Physical's tough to ignore. We're now seeing clients kind of move some of their budget back into the physical.

That isn't necessarily related to AI. I think what you're referring to really is kind of the on the search side, right?

On the marketing automation side. Look, we've learned a lot about marketing automation and search automation.

If you go to our website right now, datacm.com, you can see we have a whole new site we put to market. That site was generated using AI.

All the imagery is AI-generated imagery, and all the copy was developed using AI, and we optimize that for search, Gemini search, for AI search essentially. We're delivering a lot more natural leads as a result of the optimization we did on our site.

We've certainly learned a lot about how to optimize in AI. I know I'm not answering your question clearly, because we're not experiencing what you're saying is if you're not getting noticed in search, you start redirecting some of your budget back into print.

Hard for us to account for that, Noel.

Noel Atkinson

No, that's fine. I just wanted to see if there's any early indications on that,

Richard Kellam

so.

Noel Atkinson

That's it for me. Thank you so much.

James Lorimer

Great. Thanks, Noel.

We have a question from Daniel Rosenberg, please.

Richard Kellam

Go ahead, Daniel.

Daniel Rosenberg

Hi, good morning. Can you hear me all right?

James Lorimer

Yeah. Hi, Daniel.

Daniel Rosenberg

Great. Thanks for taking my questions.

The first one, I was just curious around your various revenue lines. Kind of what do you view as the opportunity set around these lines from a growth perspective?

Where are you allocating your resources from a segmented basis when you think about the potential returns you could garner for the overall business?

James Lorimer

I guess if you look at our segments as we report them in our financial notes, Daniel, you'll see that the kind of declines we saw overall in our business were kind of led by our product sales, so that's for the most part, printed material. That's certainly a big area where we see opportunities to kind of stabilize and see some return to growth.

Warehousing and freight were kind of directly kind of tied to lower volumes there, and some of the larger client declines that we saw last year are also clients that use freight and warehousing services. As we expect to see product sales improve, we should also see a little bit of an uptake in warehousing and freight as well.

There's a lot of kind of kidding and fulfillment type projects that are kind of using our warehousing space and we're fulfilling products on a regular basis to most of our large clients. Another area, technology hardware, that's an area that can be a little bit lumpy.

We have some interesting projects that are in the pipeline right now, not always easy to predict that because they can be kind of lumpy in terms of when programs run. We see opportunities there in kind of our tech hardware.

Traditional hardware has been printers, scanners, different applications used primarily in the healthcare sector and distribution centers for our clients. We see that market as having good opportunity.

A new market that we've kind of included and had some success in that rolls into tech hardware would also be digital screens and we've got a couple interesting programs that we're working on in that area as well. Then, I guess the other kind of big bucket, tech services.

Richard talked about that earlier. That was up I guess about 4% year over year while the product sales were down.

Nice to see some kind of continued strength in that sector. Is that helpful?

Daniel Rosenberg

That's great. Thanks for that color.

I guess in that answer, I'm just looking at your inventory levels, they came down quite a bit when we think about kind of a multi-year view, but that's just tied to the macro product sales and maybe could you talk through some of the working capital changes that may not repeat next year versus the '25?

James Lorimer

Sure. We had a very strong focus on inventory management throughout the year.

Certainly part of the decline was due to kind of lower sales, but another part of it was due to kind of better management, and our procurement team's done a great job in a couple cases we've entered into some consignment inventory relationships with some vendors where we just have faster, better access to inventory kind of on hand, and it's not on our books. We've also done a pretty focused effort across all our plants in reducing inventory that's held there.

We'll probably see some continued tweaks to inventory over this year. Definitely some kind of intentional improvements there, not just the unintentional through the lower sales.

Daniel Rosenberg

Okay. Then, looking forward, a consequence of some of these moves you've made historically is improving cash generation profile.

Maybe, Richard, could you speak to kind of what excites you about when you think about the coming 12 months, having that added capital and where you could put it to use?

Richard Kellam

I mentioned M&A. There's some interesting opportunities in the marketplace that we're looking at or considering in the in-store marketing space and in the labeling space and packaging space as well, which all kind of play to our strengths.

That's where capital could go to good use. Obviously, we want to prove to the market, to ourselves, that we can return this business organically to growth, but at the same time obviously consider some strategic M&A opportunities to continue to accelerate our position in the marketplace.

Daniel Rosenberg

Great. Thanks for taking my questions.

I'll pass the line.

Richard Kellam

All right. Thank you.

James Lorimer

Thanks, Daniel. We have a call from Chris Thompson.

Can you let him in, please? Hi, Chris.

I think you should be good now. Chris, you want to try it?

Chris Thompson

Stepped down?

James Lorimer

There we go.

Chris Thompson

Can you hear me now?

James Lorimer

Yes.

Richard Kellam

Good morning, Chris.

Chris Thompson

Oh, great. Thanks.

Most of my questions have been answered. Sorry, it's Chris Thompson from eResearch.

Thanks for taking my questions. Just wanted to talk a little bit about your margin compression in relation to the Content, your new AI platform, to see how we should expect that sort of margin, it's come down a bit, and how it will react to your new software, which should be a higher margin business.

Richard Kellam

Yeah. The gross margin compression that we experienced in 2025 was directly related to that revenue headwind.

As we see that revenue headwind turn into a tailwind, we see revenue come back into growth, we'll see that margin naturally increase. We've also done a very good job from a procurement perspective to look at and discover lower-cost raw materials globally.

Tariffs kind of pushed us into that opportunity. We'll see some of those raw materials flow into our businesses as well.

Depending on the vertical or the product type, raw materials can be anywhere from 20% to 80% of cost of goods, obviously. Improving and securing better and cheaper raw materials obviously have a direct impact.

Then you're absolutely right. As we continue to expand our mix on digital, digital is a much higher margin business than conventional print, as well as, when I say digital, pure-play digital, some of our SaaS solutions, as well as when we enable print workflow with technology, that print workflow is a higher margin business because it's supported with technology.

That's absolutely our strategy: tech-enabled solutions and pure-play kind of SaaS solutions for clients as well as driving that core margin with better raw material purchasing, operational efficiencies, and we've got kind of clear pricing methodology in the marketplace as well.

Chris Thompson

Thanks. That's great.

The rest of my questions were answered. Thanks, all.

Richard Kellam

Okay. Great, great.

James Lorimer

Thanks, Chris. We have a question in the chat here from Sahil Jain: "With the recent financial performance, is management considering any additional shareholder returns, such as a potential special dividend?"

Sure. Sahil, at the present time, no.

The board is always kind of open and assessing opportunities, but our kind of current dividend policy is you saw the 2.5 cents per share dividend that we declared last night, and the plan would be to continue that on. Certainly as we get through this year and next year, our board will consider different capital alternatives.

Certainly in the mix there is also M&A as possible opportunities for capital deployment. I believe that's the end of any questions.

Thanks everyone for dialing in today and joining our call and for your continued interest in DCM. Richard and I are certainly available after the call for any follow-up questions that you might have.

That concludes our call this morning, and I hope everyone enjoys the rest of your day. You may now disconnect your lines.

Thank you.