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Q2 FY2026 · Earnings Call TranscriptJuly 30, 2026

Operator

Good afternoon. This is the Chorus Call conference operator.

Welcome, and thank you for joining the Azimut First Half 2026 Results Conference Call. As a reminder, all participants are in listen-only mode.

After the presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. Should anyone need assistance during the conference call, they may signal an operator by pressing * and 0 on their telephone.

At this time, I would like to turn the conference over to Mr. Giorgio Medda, Chief Executive Officer of Azimut Holding.

Please go ahead, sir.

Giorgio Medda

Thank you, and good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining us for the Azimut first half 2026 financial results and business update call. I'm Giorgio Medda, Group CEO, and I'm delighted to welcome you to today's webcast.

Here with me, we have in our headquarters in Milan, Alessandro Zambotti, CEO and Group CFO, and our head of investor relations, Alex Sopera. Let me tell you that the first half of 2026 has been another milestone period for Azimut.

We have delivered a very strong operational performance, continuing our history of strong cash generative growth. At the same time, we have taken a massive, transformative leap forward in executing our Elevate 2030 strategic plan.

Today, we are not just presenting a robust set of financial results, we will also be explaining you the transaction in Turkey with Yapı Kredi that we announced yesterday and that establishes Azimut as the undisputed Italian champion of financial services worldwide. Let's turn to slide 3, where we have the key highlights of this first half 2026.

If there is one key message I would like to leave you with today is this: Azimut's multigenerational global platform keeps growing, keeps on firing on all cylinders. We have generated €8.1 billion in net inflows for the first 6 months of the year, and this is not just another strong figure, this represents 81% of our original full-year target achieved in just 6 months.

This commercial strength, coupled with our strategic M&A, allows us to significantly upgrade our full-year net inflows guidance to more than €35 billion, while confirming our net profit target of €550 million for the year. Speaking of M&A, you might feel that from my voice, I'm very excited to give you more insights later on how we have catapulted Azimut as the number two asset manager in Turkey through the acquisition of Yapı Kredi Portföy.

Furthermore, in line with the strategic capital allocation framework under our Elevate 2030 plan, the board just approved the launch of the first tranche of our share buyback program for €250 million starting as early as next Monday morning. This program, which follows the €284 million of dividends that we distributed at the end of May, underscores our disciplined approach to capital allocation and our commitment to returning substantial capital to our shareholders.

Now let's move to slide 4 for the details behind these numbers in H1. Here, really, the KPIs of our financial performance, starting with total revenues, €781 million, driven by a powerful 16% increase in recurring revenues.

This demonstrates the exceptional quality and stability of our business mix, resulting also on an operating profit growing to €354 million, with recurring EBIT up 10% year on year to €310 million. On the bottom line, our reported group net profit stood at €242 million, while our recurring net profit, which represents the true core earnings power of our business, increased by 6% to €249 million.

Importantly, our global operations generated €37 million in net profit, representing 15% of our total group net profit. This international growth is also evident in our assets, with total client assets reaching a record €158 billion, up 12% year to date, fueled by more than €8 billion in net inflows, out of which 53% came from our global operations.

For those who have been historically being skeptical about the scale of our international expansion, this is the definitive answer to why we invested and focused so much over the last 10 years on investing outside Italy, and this is today a visible result of our growth. Our global business has become the primary engine of our growth, and we expect this contribution to accelerate significantly toward our Elevate 2030 plan.

Moving swiftly to slide 5, where we have our net profit bridge for the first half '26 versus 2025, and we look really under the hood of our net profit development, starting with our reported net profit of €240 million in the first half of last year, where you can see how our core operational engine drove a €29 million increase in recurring EBIT. That was also complemented by a €33 million increase in performance fees driven by strong market performance both on funds and insurance products.

The strong performance was offset by, let's say, €63 million in other non-operating items below EBIT, which included several non-recurring or accounting-driven items, such as conservative extraordinary write-offs on proprietary investments in the second quarter, but Alessandro will detail on those later in the presentation. Despite these non-recurring headwinds, the underlying power of the business shines through a recurring net profit rising by 6% to €249 million, highlighting the steady, predictable compounding of our core franchise.

Now let's look at the performance breakdown by business line in slides 6 and 7. In slide 6, we have our reclassified P&L by business line, a reclassification that we have been now using for more than a year, where we have Integrated Solutions, which represents the DNA of the firm, combining our proprietary product factories with our exceptional financial advisor networks in Italy and beyond, continue to act as our core powerhouse and commanding superior stable recurring net profit margins of 69 basis points.

Global Wealth Solutions is showing strong commercial traction across all the jurisdictions where we're operating, and we see here how operating leverage is driven by excellent productivity and high-net-worth clients acquisition in our hubs in Singapore and Monaco in particular. Our Institutional and Wholesale division has also expanded massively, certainly this is thanks to NSI and Nova, and we expect full profitability to unfold progressively as these platforms mature.

Finally, also let me highlight how our Strategic Affiliates continue to ramp up, representing a solid foundation of diversified global assets in the most attractive markets, and for the first year this vertical showing breakeven as opposed to what we have seen over the last few years. This is starting to pay back years of focus and investments.

Focusing on slide 7, we have our geographical verticals, where we really prove the success of our global diversification strategy. Italy remains exceptionally strong, delivering €219 million in recurring net profit, driven by stable domestic inflows, robust recurring fees, and strict cost control.

Globally, our international operations are accelerating, generating €174 million in revenues and €37 million in net profit, which accounts for 15% of our total group net profit. If you compare this figure to 2019, when the international share represented less than 6%, and consider that once the Yapı Kredi transaction is closed, this share is set to expand to nearly 30% of expected profits, it's very clear how the recent transaction is a truly remarkable milestone in our global expansion.

Our global operations are no longer just a long-term option, they are highly profitable realities that generate stable, diversifying cash flows across 20 countries. Very often when I'm talking to you, I always keep hearing this argument that because of diversification, Azimut deserves a discount, we believe that this result today proved that actually Azimut deserves a premium to its valuation, considering the substantial reality of these figures.

Now let's turn to the most exciting chapter of today's presentation, moving to slide 8, where we really go through the rationale behind the transaction that we announced yesterday in Turkey. As I mentioned, this is a transformative milestone for the Azimut Group.

Yesterday, we signed a binding agreement to acquire 100% of Yapı Kredi Portföy Yönetimi, the asset management subsidiary of Yapı Kredi Bank that is the fourth-largest private bank in the country, and this acquisition, by the way, represents the largest deal that the group has made so far, and there are very good reasons why this is the case. Certainly, we need to look at this transaction in combination with our existing business in Turkey, Azimut Portföy.

Combining Yapı Kredi Portföy and Azimut Portföy, we are creating a €29 billion national champion, establishing what will become the second-largest asset manager in the country, and elevating certainly Turkey to our third-largest market globally by assets under management. I would like to make a point here: yes, we'll be the second in terms of assets under management, but will be the first private asset management in the country, considering the number one is an entity controlled by the state banks, with everything that results in this respect when it comes to the product and marketing proposition of that institution.

At the center of this important financial transaction, there is a 15-year exclusive distribution agreement that is essentially a long-term strategic alliance providing Azimut's global investment platform with exclusive access to Yapı Kredi's tier 1 network of over 18 million clients, 1-8, this is pretty, pretty massive. More importantly, we have also implemented strict safeguard mechanisms, and we have aligned incentives.

When it comes to the protection, I want to mention that we have a comprehensive fee protection system and explicit AUM targets that structurally lock in our operating margins and secure our total asset base from day one. Combined with this protection, with a growth-linked earnout structure, we have ensured the perfect alignment of interest with our partners, giving us highly visible recurring cash flows that are set to deliver €65 million to €75 million in pro forma net income in 2026, as well as an average 10% earnings per share accretion between 2027 and 2029, and that is before we take into account any synergies.

From a financial standpoint, as I said, this is the largest acquisition of the group to date, but apart from being very accretive, is also an incredibly disciplined use of our capital. The €305 million consideration implies a very attractive 7x P/E multiple on 2026 estimated net income.

Certainly it's very important to mention that we have already secured a financing structure, and certainly we will provide specific details on that at a later stage as the closing of the transaction approach, but it's very important for me to stress that our pro forma gross debt remains well below 1x EBITDA, preserving our pristine credit profile and financial flexibility. Moving to slide 9, where I really want to explore and to highlight for you why Turkey and why we believe Turkey is a large and attractive market poised for sustained growth.

For some of you, Turkey might seem like an unconventional choice, obviously that goes beyond the fact that we have been operating in the country since 2011, and what I'm about to describe now is something that we lived and we have experienced that has contributed significantly to our earnings growth over the years, this is not simply a representation of things observed or looked from thousands of miles away, this is something that we lived. Certainly let me tell you that Turkey is one of the most compelling and dynamic growth stories in Europe today.

First, demographics: Turkey represents the largest population in Europe, with 86 million people, the youngest and fastest-growing population in the continent that, as is a pretty strong demographic fundamental structure for our business. Turkey maintains also one of the lowest public debt-to-GDP ratios in Europe at just 24%, comparing very favorably with what we know well for the rest of the Union, and that provides the country substantial fiscal headroom and economic flexibility that in the past has already proven to be a key enabler of growth and stability even despite adverse market conditions.

The combination of demographic energy, economic growth, and fiscal discipline makes Turkey a uniquely compelling market for asset and wealth management. We see that better represented in slide 10, where we look at the economic KPIs and the macro fundamentals of the country, where we can really see how since 2020 the country has undergone a highly successful policy pivot that has restored international investor confidence, particularly following the 2023 presidential elections, the economic authorities had what we can define, without doubts, a U-turn in terms of implementing a disciplined policy shift, anchoring the currency to a managed depreciation path and bringing inflation progressively under control.

This stabilization has led to a significant rerating of Turkish credit and Turkish asset classes, in particular the 5-year CDS spread tightened dramatically, dropping from their 2023 peaks to the current levels of 235 basis points, that in history is one of the lowest level ever recorded. Certainly reflecting this structural improvement, all the rating agencies have recognized that the situation had changed, and all of them, they have upgraded the credit rating of the country, maintaining a positive outlook.

Certainly this economic rerating provides a highly supportive backdrop for our combined operations and for what has been essentially what you can see in slide 11, a pretty major change in the asset management industry that has, over the last few years, experienced a period of extraordinary rapid expansion. Certainly, driven by high interest rate environment and growing investor sophistication, total assets under management have grown from $49 billion in 2020 to more than $310 billion as of June 2026, representing a massive 40% compound annual growth rate or, essentially, an increase of 6x in hard currency over the last 6 years or so.

We're talking about here hard currency figures, and not talking about Turkish lira inflation-driven figures, we're talking about hard currency real value growth for an industry that has also reflected in a pretty major growth and expansion also in terms of commission revenues rising to more than $1.1 billion with a very similar growth rate in the same period of time. The market is currently dominated by banks' captive managers, with the top 5 commanding a combined 50% market share, of which Yapı Kredi Portföy, the company that we have announced yesterday will be acquired by the group, holds 8%.

We expect as rates and inflation will keep normalizing over the next coming years, we are anticipating really a structural shift in investor demand away from money market funds toward domestic and foreign equities and alternative products, and this is exactly where our combined entity will excel and is best positioned to capture the highest-margin flows. Let me go in slide 12 on describing what Yapı Kredi Portföy is.

As I said, fifth-largest asset manager in the country, managing approximately $26 billion in assets and an 8% market share that represents approximately the same market share that Yapı Kredi Bank has, looking at the total banking assets in the country. The platform features a highly institutionalized product suite spanning 136 funds, including 17 pension funds.

The company has been benefiting in the past from exclusive distribution access to Yapı Kredi Bank's tier 1 network of 730 branches across the country and over 18 million customers, and this massive retail and institutional distribution power has generated an exceptional financial track record between 2023 and 2025. Let me tell you that assets have grown over the same period by 74% annually, revenues by 40%, and net profit has delivered an outstanding 57% annualized growth rate in the same period.

Yapı Kredi Portföy is a pretty well-run company, highly efficient, high growth, and immensely profitable machine with approximately 70 professionals and created always a remarkable track record of operational excellence. Now let me actually give you more details in slide 13 regarding Azimut's own Turkish business.

This is the first time, and certainly we feel proud and immensely delighted in providing some look-through on the performance of our Turkish business. We have never provided access to single country's financial performance, but here we feel compelled to do it.

I want to show you how Azimut Portföy since 2018 has been an incredible story of growth, certainly driven by a highly successful, independent, and high-margin platform operating in a country with its own logics, with its own dynamics, but with a strong backing of our global group. Through disciplined organic growth and successful acquisitions, Azimut Portföy has become the profitability leader within the group.

Our assets under management have grown over 16-fold since 2019, reaching now more than €6 billion, while net profit in the same period has grown 22 times to €24 million last year and expected to be €30 million this year. Azimut Portföy operates as a high-value independent platform with 44 financial advisors serving nearly 1,700 retail and institutional clients, supported by a physical footprint of regional liaison offices in Ankara, İzmir, Bursa, and Bodrum, and having certainly a distribution reach with the retail market in the country with approximately 46,000 investors in its funds.

Unlike the bank captive players, our asset mix is highly sophisticated, with discretionary portfolio management representing 53% of our assets, delivering what is an incredibly competitive and profitable margin profile. Let's look now in slide 14 at what will be the combined, let's say, pro forma representation of both businesses, Yapı Kredi and Azimut Portföy coming together.

The combined platform, I mentioned earlier, will manage €29 billion or $33 billion in assets. From a profitability perspective, the combined business is expected to generate €65 million to €75 million or $75 million to $85 million in net income for 2026, and that is essentially representing a figure that takes into account, let's say, financing for the transaction and is excluding any synergies that I will detail later can be pretty meaningful and material.

Yapı Kredi Portföy will immediately benefit from Azimut's world-class sophisticated manufacturing capabilities, and we will inject our proven expertise in the discretionary portfolio management business and strategies to transition retail clients into higher-margin solutions. We will certainly have a specific focus on real estate and private equity alternative funds, allowing us to capitalize on Turkey's rapidly growing demand for alternative assets.

Again here, a number that we have never commented before, but when you look at our Azimut Portföy assets under management today, 5% is actually accounting for alternative investments. Turkey has taken the same path of our Italian business in this respect.

Certainly we will be bringing our global equity funds expertise to Turkish investors, providing them seamless offshore access through our Luxembourg product hub. This is a clear blueprint for transforming massive scale into high-margins profitability.

In slide 15, I want to touch upon what are the potential synergies that could improve the financial impacts that I mentioned earlier. As I said, there will be an amazing cross-selling opportunity through Yapı Kredi captive distribution network.

Second of all, and that is very important, as we will expand our product suite, we will be able to achieve a better price mix and certainly to transition what is the existing business for Yapı Kredi Portföy into a higher-margin product suite. Third, there is certainly a material opportunity to rationalize both personal and non-personal costs.

Yapı Portföy, as I said, is a pretty well-run company, a cost-income ratio of 25%, but combining two asset management businesses will allow here really to eliminate any duplication and having certainly a pretty major impact on what is already a low cost-income ratio by bringing that even further down. Slide 16, some sort of qualitative and last remarks on this transaction.

Azimut becomes the second asset manager in Turkey, the first if you take out from the peers panel, the largest that is controlled by the state banks. This is a transaction that transforms Azimut's global network, certainly makes us grow in Turkey, but it gives also another, let's say, proof of how Azimut is positioning itself as a trusted asset management platform for leading financial institutions operating across its global footprint.

It's very important to say that this transaction comes with an exclusive 15-year distribution agreement that will allow us to certainly get and extract growth from this tier 1 market reach of the bank, but certainly providing a very meaningful visibility in terms of earnings, in terms of cash flows. The transaction itself, as I mentioned, based on the €305 million consideration implies a 7x multiple earnings that is an absolutely attractive level for a transaction of this type, even for a high-growth market like Turkey.

The transaction brings an average 10% EPS accretion over the next 3 years, but starting with year one immediately at this level, that I want to reiterate includes any financing costs for the transaction, and it excludes any potential synergies that are very likely to be extracted. Just to wrap it up, I want to just mention that this transaction proves that the power of our global vision is in the making, is not longer a free option or a dream, is something that is happening today.

Our international assets after the consolidation of Yapı Portföy will stand above 50% of our total group assets, and when you look at our earnings, we have accelerated our path towards generating 30% of our expected earnings from global operations under our Elevate 2030 roadmap. I want to say that this is the definitive proof that Azimut is the true Italian champion of financial services worldwide.

We are a global multigenerational advisory platform present in 20 countries, chosen by more than 2.5 million private clients globally, wealth networks, and some of the largest institutional investors globally to manage their assets. With this, I'm going to hand over to Alessandro that will walk you through our financial results.

Alessandro, the floor is yours.

Alessandro Zambotti

Thank you, Giorgio. We go back to numbers.

We can move to slide 17, and it is a pleasure to present the financial results of a truly outstanding first half for the Azimut Group. As usual, we will begin with the evolution of our top-line performance.

During the first half, the group recorded total revenues exceeding €780 million, representing an outstanding 21% year-on-year growth compared to the first half of 2025. This fantastic top-line expansion was driven by a solid 16% increase in our recurring fees, which rose by €92 million to reach €653 million, driven by solid AUM growth and our ongoing platform expansion.

Looking at the main drivers: first of all, our global business has continued to expand and grow by €58 million year on year, and this was driven by changes in our consolidation perimeter, specifically adding €25 million from NSI, €2 million from Nox, and €11 million combined from the consolidation of Kennedy Capital and EyePost, alongside robust organic growth in the US, Singapore, Brazil, and Turkey. Second, Italy delivered a very robust domestic contribution, adding €34 million year on year.

This solid organic performance was broad-based across all of our core business lines, spanning open-ended mutual funds, through the alternative assets, and the next-generation advisory services, and also we would like to mention also Nova. Moving to the performance fees from our fund solution increased by €5 million year on year to reach nearly €38 million, driven by strong investment results in Turkey and Monaco, which effectively offset the negative impact of the fulcrum fee mechanism.

Turning to the insurance revenues, we achieved a year-on-year increase of €31 million to reach €91 million. This outstanding performance was driven by an exceptionally strong second quarter, which generated €28 million in variable insurance fees, complemented by nearly €3 million in recurring insurance revenues.

Finally, the entry commission and the other income rose by €8 million to reach €30 million. This is primarily supported by higher entry fees inflows from our international hubs, and in particular, Singapore, the Switzerland, and Monaco business.

In general, what I would like also to mention is the evolution quarter-on-quarter basis to highlight our underlying operating momentum. On a sequential basis, we achieved overall revenue growth of approximately €40 million.

This incorporates a €15 million increase in recurring fees, a €20 million expansion in the insurance revenue, and €6 million in higher performance fee. In terms of domestic recurring fees, our Italian operation grew by €7.3 million quarter on quarter led by open-ended funds, which contributed €4.5 million, supplemented by a €1.8 million increase in private markets management fee, and approximately €1 million from Nova.

Also our international operation also delivered strong sequential growth, up by €8 million quarter on quarter. The main contributors were the US with an increase of €4 million reflecting the successful ramp-up of NSI, Monaco with €1.6 million, Singapore with €1.2 million, and Turkey with €1 million.

Now moving to next slide, let us analyze the evolution of our operating expenses compared to the first half '25. Total cost increased by approximately €74 million, an evolution directly correlated with the expansion of our business scale and the revenue growth we have just outlined.

Let's examine the individual components. First, we start with the distribution cost, increased by €21 million year on year to reach €244 million, reflecting the direct growth of our recurring revenues both in Italy and abroad, and including a €6 million perimeter effect from NSI.

In Italy, accounted for €6 million of increase, while the international business contributed the €15 million. Second, looking to the personnel and the SG&A expenses, we have an increase by €44 million to reach €165 million.

This reflects the combined effect of consolidation perimeter changes totaling €25 million, primarily again in US for €21 million, including on one side €15 million from NSI, €6.5 million from EyePost and Kennedy Capital, and as well as we mentioned for the revenue, Brazil for €1.5 million, and in general, we have an organic cost growth of €19 million. The organic cost in Italy remained virtually flat, reflecting our disciplined cost management in domestic operation, while the international organic growth was mainly driven by Turkey, Brazil, and UAE.

It is critical to highlight that organic cost in Italy remained virtually flat, again as I mentioned before, important to remark this point. Third, depreciation and amortization increased by €8 million year on year to reach €18 million, which includes a €2 million perimeter effect from NSI.

The remaining increase is primarily a baseline comparison effect, as the second quarter of 2025 benefited from a provision release following a favorable legal resolution. If we take out the effect of this positive one-off, the D&A evolution is broadly in line.

Again, trying to give you also an overview of the evolution of the group quarter on quarter, distribution cost rose by €8 million in line with recurring revenues, SG&A and administrative expenses remaining linear with a low growth of €2 million, this again to remark as well the point related to the cost discipline. Moving on the slide 19, moving below the operating line, the net impact of financial items and non-operating cost for the first half of the year was negative by €38 million, which represents a market improvement compared to the negative €38 million recorded in the first half of '25.

This net performance was driven by three primary components: first, a non-cash IFRS 17 adjustment of approximately €10 million; second, other non-operating cost of €5 million; and third, €18 million related to the fair value option, equity participation, and portfolio performance, which was impacted by €25 million extraordinary non-recurring write-off on proprietary investment in the second quarter. To provide some strategic context, these write-offs relate to two specific venture capital holdings, one in technology and the other one in medtech sectors.

As a global platform, we manage our proprietary portfolio with the highest level of financial discipline. While investment activities naturally carry risks, our track record demonstrates our ability to capture extraordinary upside, as we did with our investment in Kennedy Lewis, which returned four times our initial capital and generated a capital gain of over $260 million.

Equally, disciplined capital allocation means taking an highly conservative and proactive approach to valuation when necessary. By electing to write down these assets now, we clean our slate, protect the quality of our balance sheet, and ensure our financial reports remain a pristine reflection of our core recurring profitability.

Then our adjusted tax rate stood at 21.7% for the first half of '26, and we are guiding to a full-year tax rate approximately 24%, 25%. Putting it all together, the group achieved a reported net profit of €242 million, and we are reflecting the true structural earnings power of our business, our recurring net profit grew by a remarkable 6% year on year, reaching €249 million.

Moving to slide 20, we present our net financial position, which remains highly robust and positive of €715 million. While this is lower compared to both the previous quarter and the end of last quarter, it is the direct result of our active capital allocation, shareholder return initiatives.

Specifically, during the period, we deployed €89 million in M&A and strategic investments, €58 million in tax advances, €352 million in ordinary and preferred dividend distribution, and then €60 million in share buyback. Probably the news is that in line with our commitment to maximizing shareholder value, the board of directors has today approved, as mentioned before Giorgio, the launch of the first tranche of our new share buyback program for up to €250 million, scheduled to start at the beginning of August and to be completed within the next 6 months, and represents exactly half of our total €500 million authorized buyback capacity.

This launch marks another milestone in executing our strategic capital allocation framework. More importantly, it directly delivers on our Elevate 2030 plan, reinforcing our formal commitment to return approximately 25% of the group market capitalization to shareholders through a combination of dividend and share buyback with subsequent share cancellation over the '26 and '27 period.

This program is a powerful, concrete testament to our exceptional cash generation, our robust balance sheet, our absolute focus on driving long-term capital appreciation. Now we can move to slide 21.

Before handing the call back to Giorgio, let me provide a brief strategic update on the TNB transaction. We have extended our framework agreement with FSI until December 20 of 2026.

The customary follow-up assessment by the Bank of Italy regarding the previously agreed remediation plan was completed in early July, and we are currently awaiting the official report from the regulator to formally conclude this stage, which represents a key prerequisite for obtaining final regulatory approvals for the overall transaction for the component authorities. Based on our current progress and highly collaborative and positive nature of our ongoing regulatory engagement, we remain fully confident that the transaction will be completed within the end of the year.

With that, I will hand the call back to Giorgio, and thank you.

Giorgio Medda

Thank you, Alessandro. The last slide, slide 22, just a look-through of our guidance upgrade in terms of net inflows for 2026.

We are upgrading the original €10 billion target to €35 billion target, at least €35 billion target, resulting from the impact of the acquisition of Yapı Kredi that we expect to be closed following regulatory approvals by October, November this year, and an organic upgrade in our inflows of at least €4 billion. If you compare this slide to what we have shown last year same time, you would find a very similar upgrade.

We are really looking to continuing delivering strong commercial momentum and certainly to benefit from what we are able to achieve in terms of non-organic growth as well. With this, I will open the floor to any questions.

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The first question is from Gianluca Ferrari of Mediobanca. Please go ahead, sir.

Gianluca Ferrari

Yes, thank you very much. Ciao, Giorgio.

Four questions for me, please. The first one is page 7, when you give the verticals by region.

I was wondering what happened in the global business, looking at the dynamic of assets, the dynamic of revenues, and the dynamic of EBIT and net profit. It seems that something on the cost base has changed this year, and I was wondering what was that, and if it is a one-off item or something more structural.

The second is on the deal you made in and announced yesterday. I was curious to hear some thoughts on the hyperinflation, what are the currency risks there, how you are isolating forex risk, and how are you hedging this kind of risk.

The third question is if you can help us in modeling in a bit more predictable way the net interest income for 2026 with all the moving parts, the derivatives, and stuff like that. If in the extraordinary items, we should expect only, let's say, the level of first half as a run rate for full year.

The final one is you are reiterating the €550 million net income guidance ex extraordinary items. What are you considering extraordinary in the first half?

Is the write-offs in the technology and medtech is the only component we have to isolate in the €550 million? Linked to this, can you remind us how much you invested from your prop investments as seed money in venture capital overall?

Thank you.

Giorgio Medda

Gianluca. I'll take some of your questions and leave Alessandro for the others.

Page 7, you rightly pointed out, we have increased assets, and operating margins or operating earnings have not increased linearly. This is something that we already commented for Q1.

The increase in assets reflects the consolidation of NSI. We said at the very beginning that the first quarters of this transaction or following the consolidation of the assets would have implied a dilution in margins as the platform gets integrated into the group as a number of let's say, one-off non-recurring items are absorbed over time.

Obviously we're not going into the details now of NSI financials, but we have already seen a material improvement in the second quarter versus the first quarter, and we see that continuing unfolding over the next few months. We are expecting NSI to be contributing positively to the net income.

We provided at the time of the acquisition some guidance in terms of EPS accretion, all those are standing. We were mentioning back then that we were expecting a 5% EPS accretion over the first 2 years, all that is standing.

It's a pretty large firm, more than $22 billion of assets, a lot of products, a lot of counterparties that links launch of new products. We launched at the end of June two of the first five active ETFs built for the American market.

Let me tell you that we had a very strong sales response, more than $150 million invested in these two products in the first month. All this is resulting in some, let's say, headwinds that, as I said, will be absorbed as the business keeps integrating and keeps growing, and there is no change whatsoever in our view on how this will contribute to our earnings.

In terms of the deal in Turkey, look, the numbers that we are showing here are all accounting for hyperinflation accounting. Sorry for the double repetition, but one thing I want to tell you that hyperinflation accounting is expected to be discontinued in 2027 as inflation has normalized.

There is one key aspect when it comes to the asset management business: hyperinflation accounting had a very limited impact in general. The numbers that we have shown are already post those adjustments.

The beauty of this business is that we invest in assets, we invest in locally denominated asset classes that obviously start with the base return that is the local interest rates yield, and that is reflected in inflation. Whatever you might see in terms of inflation essentially is naturally hedged at the fund performance level, as funds always start with the risk-free rate, if you look at this now, in excess of 40%.

Even if the currency depreciates as has been depreciated by the interest rate differential, we have through the organic development as much as the ability to beat the market, this incredible growth delivered on top of any currency devaluation. That is very, very important to remember.

Turkey has not experienced any major currency volatility for the last 5 years, almost 6, and that is the result of the normalization in the macroeconomic policies implemented by the central bank. We think that that will continue and there are no reasons to expect this to be a problem, but even if some is worried about these problems, we have been there since 2011, we have experienced all sorts of volatility in the market, in the country, the result is that every single time something is happening, even if that is bad, we have been able to turn that into an opportunity for our business, and certainly the fact that we are a global manager helps investors to look at diversified portfolios, and basically we provide them a way to hedge any local risk through our portfolio management capabilities.

Now, you were asking about the net interest income for 2026. We didn't catch whether you were referring to Yapı Portföy or you were looking at the group level, and depending on which one of the two, either me or Alessandro will reply to that question.

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Giorgio Medda

Gianluca, Gian Luca, we didn't hear you. Gianluca?

Hello? Can you hear us?

Operator

The next question is from Villa Alberto. Please go ahead, sir.

Hi, and thanks for taking my questions. Hi, Giorgio, Alessandro.

I have a few. Thanks for the deep dive on Yapı Kredi Portföy, very helpful.

I was wondering if you can give us some more color about the expected growth of the business going forward. I've seen a tremendous growth in the last 3 years of the AUM, but a slowdown in growth in the first half of this year, I don't know, maybe there are specific reasons for that.

Going forward, in your expectations, what we should bake in in terms of expected AUM progression going forward? Any additional color you can provide us on distribution agreement with the bank would be particularly helpful because it's one of the most relevant point of the deal, I guess.

Secondly, still on Yapı Kredi, I understand that there are also earnouts and other considerations, maybe you can detail a little bit better how they could work if they kick in, and the 7x P/E multiple is based on the initial consideration. Just to understand the final amount that could be paid in case everything goes in the right direction.

The second question is on the fact that you are operating now in 20 countries. Some of them are now contributing significantly to your results, other are a little bit less relevant, I was wondering if you are considering some sort of rationalization in terms of the portfolio of countries in which you operate or you believe there are opportunities in all the 20 countries you are currently operating.

The third question is more related to the let's say updated target on net inflows, which is obviously impacted by M&A, but stripping out the M&A component, it seems quite conservative, this is aligned with what you have been doing in terms of guidance on net inflows. I was wondering if you can provide us on outlook on what was the trend in July and if you expect organic or same-perimeter net inflows to continue to be solid going forward.

The final question is more generic one on margin evolution going forward. We have been hearing about potential pressure, but at the end of the day, probably also market contributed positively on mix and so on.

In general, in your view, are you experiencing any pressure on margins in any of your jurisdictions? Thank you very much.

Giorgio Medda

Alberto, can you confirm that you can hear us?

Yes, I can.

Giorgio Medda

Cool. Because we lost Gianluca earlier, but we will come back to him offline.

Going through the very long list of questions, but hopefully we have an answer for all of them. In terms of growth assumptions for Yapı Kredi Portföy, it happens that businesses can grow at different rates over the medium and long term.

What happened over the first months, it was actually the first 2 months of 2026 has been as a matter of fact compensated by very robust growth over the last couple of months at the end of the first half. Our basic assumption that through the distribution agreement, we can achieve between 7% and 10% organic growth for Yapı Kredi Portföy assets.

This is significantly below what the company has delivered over the last few years and reflects what is our underlying view of organic potential for the market. It can be easily higher, but this is what we have reflected in our valuation and base case scenario.

For the distribution agreement, look, there are a lot of things in that distribution agreement that we have put under the label of safeguard mechanisms. Essentially, we have very clear rules, if I can define them so, in terms of margins.

We have a baseline margins defined below which the bank will have to essentially compensate in terms of lower retrocessions from our part. To say that on the other hand, we provided them an incentive to shift the product mix towards different solutions, they have, if you want, in this respect an alignment of interest in improving the underlying let's say, profitability of the business.

When it comes to the assets, similarly, we have set some thresholds below which there will be initially a compensation calculated and representing the basis for a lower retrocessions over the short term. There are even thresholds below which we might be entitled to some compensation as opposed to the original consideration.

I have to say that all this has been negotiated with the bank, but we generally believe that none of these thresholds will actually kick in. We have really sort of felt during the negotiations that is a genuine focus from the bank's management to use asset management, this partnership with Azimut, to increase the market share both for the banking business and the asset management business.

We really believe it's good for sleeping at night to know that there are things that will protect us, but I have to say that this transaction represents even for the bank, and I think they've been very open yesterday commenting as they want to start really a new as far as the asset management business is concerned, following this transaction. The earnouts will be relatively limited.

We are expecting for the first 5 years an overall amount of €20 million. The way the earnouts work is based on certain targets of growth, there are really milestone, this is more of an asset kicker system.

As soon as certain thresholds are hit, then the bank gets an additional consideration. To give you a ballpark measure of how these earnouts are calculated for the €20 million, that amount will be paid if the bank increases organically by 75% the existing assets under management.

We're talking about obviously an earnout that is important financially, but there is a very compelling case in terms of growth as far as the different milestones have been set for that to be paid. We also have for the longer term, we didn't really want to leave anything unattended in terms of incentives, we also defined a system where we already agreed that beyond this initial 5 years, there will be an alignment in terms of commercial incentives, as the business will continue growing.

I wouldn't call this earnout, I would call it more as higher retrocessions, but something that will not impair or affect the overall profitability of the business. The 7x P/E multiple is calculated on the €305 million consideration.

I told you, €20 million is the maximum earnout to be paid over the first 5 years based on these growth targets. We will acquire a business that will have some cash in it, and certainly that cash is also part of the consideration on top of what I mentioned, but it's cash against cash, it doesn't really account for the multiple calculation.

Then you asked a very fair question: you are now in 20 countries, is there any plan to exit some or to rationalize? I have to tell you that it's very hard for me right now, not because I'm an optimist by nature, but it's very hard for me to think that Azimut will ever leave any of these countries for the simple reason that the business is operating as a truly integrated platform.

It doesn't matter whether in Taiwan we have a relatively small business as opposed to Singapore, we have a lot of cross-border relationships, we have a lot of interactions between different teams within closer countries, within same regions. We have a lot of things happening between the US and Brazil, between Europe and the Middle East, we have passed that sort of position where we were looking at the world as a globe with the flags planted on the ground, we are really operating the business as a global platform, and today, the geography breakdown represents very little in terms of what we are doing every day, and as a matter of fact, the business lines are more representative of the approach and strategic focus that we have on the day-to-day business.

Now, you also were asking in terms of the trends for the net new money, for the upgraded guidance. Look, I think we have seen over the last couple of months market conditions being a little bit jittery.

I think there is a bit of reckoning across a number of sectors, valuation reckoning. This volatility cannot be overlooked.

We are not concerned, we are not scared, we don't think that we are in face of any major systemic correction, yet risk propensity, portfolio construction, and commercial activity might be affected. I think it's pretty reasonable, actually very sensible for us to take the conservative path in terms of upgrading our guidance.

We don't want to hide, we don't want to sort of lowball to impress you later. We did the same thing last year, we ended up very much close to what we told you at the end of July, and we are doing the same this year, and market conditions are the main reason why we have taken this stance.

That's it. I don't know whether we have left any question unanswered.

Alessandro Zambotti

Now maybe on margins, if you have any comment on

Giorgio Medda

margins?

Alessandro Zambotti

Margins. Margins,

Giorgio Medda

look, very often we talk about evergreen funds, and this has been an evergreen question, what's happening to our margins and what's happening to fees. It would be silly for me to tell you that we don't feel any pressure.

Let me tell you that we are able to cope with the pressure very well. It's always a mix-match of top line being sometimes exposed to the competitive forces of the market, and our ability through cost management to overcompensate for that.

The margins mix of Azimut will remain always within this 35 to 45 basis point range, these are the baseline of our Elevate 2030 plan. There might be seasonality, there might be acquisitions, there might be things that might affect this temporarily, but I think that we do not see anything major to shake the house, and even the expected changes in regulation in Europe with the retail investment strategy, although we only read about these changes, we have not really seen any actual directive or law enforcement, but we know that we'll be able to adjust and to accommodate with our operating performance for any pressure on fees.

Alessandro Zambotti

Okay. Thank you, Giorgio, for the detailed answers.

Giorgio Medda

Thank you.

Operator

The next question is from Davide Giuliano of Equita. Please go ahead, sir.

Davide Giuliano

Hi, good afternoon, and thank you for taking my questions. I have just two as many of them were already answered.

The first one is on Turkey. How much room do you see for margin improvement over the coming years from the upselling initiatives you may have?

The second one, on net inflows during second quarter, we have seen a progressive slowdown in mutual fund inflows in May and June. Can you provide some indication on the underlying dynamics, in particular, a qualitative split of the dynamics of the various moving parts, including Nova, if possible?

Thank you.

Giorgio Medda

I'll take the first question as we work for the second. In terms of upselling or pricing mix, let me be very factual here.

Average management fees in the market are below 1%, clearly affected by money market funds. I have to say that Yapı Kredi Portföy has been always compared to its peers, a good performer, average management fees between 1.1%, 1.2%, but then I look what we have been able to achieve with Azimut Portföy above 1.4% historically.

If I look at a translation of the business and ability to work with the same mix that we have been able to implement with our clients, I think the top line can certainly 10% to 20% upside that we can deliver over the short and the medium term. Nothing will be automatic, but certainly the distribution agreement has been built in a way where the bank is opening the doors of their branches to our teams, and certainly there will be a lot of education with their personnel, with the clients as well.

One thing I didn't mention, or I mentioned that briefly only when we were talking about alternatives, Turkey right now is experiencing what is a very fast-growing stage when it comes to alternatives. I have to say investors' preferences, particularly among high-net-worth individuals, resembles significantly what we see in other more mature markets.

There is, maybe because of the country, the history of the country, an entrepreneurial spirit, there is an entrepreneurial culture, and high-net-worth individuals are very ready to put their money at work in illiquid investments: private equity, venture capital, private debt. The bank itself is looking to add these products to the mix offered to their clients, and these are products like elsewhere that have significantly higher fees, we start always with 2%.

Something that Azimut Portföy, our affiliate, has been able already to see as an opportunity over the last 18 months. We have now approximately $300 million of alternative investments for our clients, and the way we have been able to engage with them, certainly what we have learned in Italy, in the US, today is very conducive of an effective marketing proposition with clients, and we will translate that and we will bring that to Yapı Kredi network.

Obviously, we're talking about a very significant asset base there, I'm not expecting to get to 5% of Yapı Kredi Portföy investing into alternative assets, but in the business plan that they presented to us, there was more than a double-digit exposure to alternative investments, I think we can work toward that.

Alessandro Zambotti

Taking the second question, looking to the last quarter evolution of the net inflows, but in particular as you were mentioning on the mutual funds, to be honest, we don't really see a particular, let's say, problem or issues. To be honest, probably we are more frequent having a particular and positive results over the last 12 or 15 months, probably the fact that in the last quarter we were a bit lower make you a bit afraid on the evolution is not probably the case.

Obviously, mutual funds, we in general suffer a bit in Brazil, you know that credit funds is a bit of volatility, the market sometimes happen. As well also we should consider that in May, we had this fantastic growth in alternative funds with in 2 days we grow, we had net new money in one club deal, €175 million.

All in all, I think that the evolution we see back in the second quarter is remain positive. As well, we should consider looking forward for the next quarter, we will probably end up with the seasonality of that, like August and July, people are a bit lazy, let me say like this, but we look positive for as we mentioned looking also to the guidance that we present.

Davide Giuliano

Thank you.

Operator

The next question is from Elena Perini of Intesa Sanpaolo. Please go ahead.

Yes,

Elena Perini

good afternoon, and thank you for taking my questions. A consideration about your transaction in Turkey that in terms of size, both regarding AUM and net profit seems to be very very similar to what you can lose through TNB, also optically it is a good result even considering that the margins are different and can improve.

Talking about TNB, my first question is about an update on the results. I don't know if you have already provided them because I was disconnected for a while due to technical issues.

Then regarding Turkey, I understand that your target in terms of net profit is already net of the cost of the financing. Is it also net of the cost of the hedges because I imagine that you have some?

Then if you can provide us an AUM breakdown in terms of currencies. Are them all in local currency, or I imagine that there will be also an exposure to euro, to dollar, or something like that?

Then on banking distribution, it seems that it is going to be a key driver for you. I'm referring to Nova and also to this agreement in Turkey.

Are financial advisors going to remain prominent for your distribution model, or are you thinking about something different? Finally, on your private markets, you had €25 million write-offs on two specific investments.

Would you expect to be in the need to take other provisions, or it seems that your investments are going quite well? Thank you very much.

Giorgio Medda

Elena, we'll answer to some of your questions, starting with Turkey. Yes, when we talk about net income and the expectation that we have disclosed, that is post-financing, so that is taking into account what we see following conversations with a lender, the cost of this debt, so that is certainly already reflected.

That assumption does not include for any hedging. As I mentioned earlier, asset management businesses have a natural hedge in terms of what the revenues do as opposed to where inflation is and interest rates are.

As currency depreciation is function of interest rates, everything basically gets fixed naturally at the top-line level. Having said that, and you ask a fair question, today approximately 45% of the assets of Yapı Portföy are invested in hard currency assets.

Turkey has a very vibrant and dynamic Eurobonds market. These are bonds issued in dollars or euros by local issuers and are a staple of any portfolio for local investors.

In a way, if you want, there is also an hedge in that respect because of the underlying assets invested by the portfolios. When it comes to the strategic question regarding is Azimut walking away from the financial advisors business, the answer is absolutely not.

We have four business lines. What we call Integrated Solutions is essentially the typical onshore business, integrated platforms, product factories with a proprietary network of advisors catering to upper-affluent, lower-high-net-worth individuals.

This is a business that obviously made Azimut very successful in Italy, and we are replicating with equal success in Turkey, in Brazil, in Mexico, in Egypt, in Taiwan, and we will keep focused on this segment because we believe there is so much value in the integrated asset management platforms as opposed to resorting to a pure wholesale business, asset managers serving supermarkets away from where the clients are, with everything that that entails, particularly when market conditions worsen. What you will see is certainly Azimut being very keen to seek strategic partnerships.

Nova obviously is very known to all of you, Yapı Kredi Portföy is what we have commented extensively today. Let me tell you that in Brazil, we have a strategic partnership with XP that is the second-largest financial product digital distribution platform, this is a true partnership, they are a key driver in our performance, operating performance in the country.

In the Middle East, we have now almost a 10-year-long partnership with Abu Dhabi Islamic Bank for everything being Shariah-compliant asset management solutions, and we do that only with them. In Asia as well, we have a partnership with Maybank that is the larger financial institution in the Southeast of the continent.

These are partnerships that we never comment on because they are certainly smaller as opposed to what Nova and Yapı Kredi could be, but they're already part of our business. We are developing this reputation in the market to be credible, to be performing, to be a good partner, and I think that's stemming from our independence and alignment of interest.

We are as good as the performance for our clients, and I think that is driving all this strategic agreements. Then Alessandro.

Alessandro Zambotti

Referring to TNB, we have not mentioned before let's say the evolution in terms of P&L, but we can share the fact that the net profit it's around €30 million at the end of June '26, with a positive trend compared to last year. This thanks to positive evolution of the AUM in terms of net new money and as well market effect.

In general, the division it's running positively compared to last year. Also referring to the private markets, yeah, we decided to be very conservative this first half, as I mentioned before, looking also to the accounting principle, we do not move the fair value of the assets, but on the other way around, we keep an conservative approach when you talk about the cost less impairment.

We don't see additional negative adjustment, hopefully positive, so that's the results of the approach of the group for this first half.

Operator

The next question is from Hubert Lam of Bank of America. Please go ahead.

Hubert Lam

Hi, good afternoon. I've got three questions.

Firstly, on the deal in Turkey, could you talk about the funding costs for the acquisition in Turkey, or what would you expect it to be around? The second question is in terms of leverage, how much more leverage are you willing to take for Azimut Group?

Lastly, for the write-down you've taken on your balance sheet, were there also client funds that were invested in these assets, and hence need to be written down as well, just to check where it really came from? Thank you.

Alessandro Zambotti

I'm going to take the first two. What we see today, it's around 2.5%, 3% cost of the debt.

Referring of the leverage, normally what we have seen in the past, it's 2.5x the EBITDA, we have big margin if we look to our EBITDA today to leverage the company, but at the same time, we keep as well a conservative approach. That's for the first two.

Giorgio Medda

As far as the exposure of our funds to some of the positions that we have been conservatively marking down, let me tell you very negligible. As a matter of fact, these were warehousing investments, in some cases Azimut has been involved in helping startups and businesses to take off, really bringing these businesses to eventually our clients only once a certain profitability and certain assumptions of their underlying business cases were proven.

This I think is legitimate position and always in protection of clients' interest. By the way, I think, for accounting purposes, we are really subject to very strict rules, and very rarely, if never, you will see such an approach applied to private equity and private debt.

Let me tell you, these positions have been written down now, but can be written back at some point, and we already proven in several instances how we have been able to extract meaningful value from this prop book.

Hubert Lam

Clients will not have no real impact? No,

Giorgio Medda

no, absolutely, you can say virtually nil.

Hubert Lam

Thank you.

Operator

The next question is from Giovanni Razzoli of Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead.

Giovanni Razzoli

Thank you. In the interest of time, I skip my questions and we can take it offline.

Thank you.

Operator

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Giorgio Medda

Thank you very much for attending this call, and we are here to wish everyone of you an amazing and beautiful summer, and we look forward to meeting you on the road or on calls after the break. Thank you very much.

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