Eurazeo SE

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Q4 FY2025 · Earnings Call TranscriptMarch 11, 2026

William Kadouch-Chassaing

Good morning. Thank you for joining this call.

Christophe and I are pleased to welcome you to our 2025 full-year results presentation. Our presentation will be in three parts.

First, I will share with you key financial and non-financial highlights for 2025. Second, Christophe will focus on fundraising, client franchise development, and asset rotation.

Third and last, I will detail our financial results. We will then be available to take your questions.

2025 was another year of growth for Eurazeo. We continue to execute well on our strategic roadmap in spite of a still complex environment.

First, we delivered strong growth in asset management. We continue to gain market share, which reflects the relevance of our positioning and the strength of our distribution capabilities.

Fundraising reached €5.5 billion in 2025, up 28% compared to last year. AUM from third party rose by a strong 15% year-on-year.

We expanded our client franchise, adding 44 new institutional clients, whilst our AUM in wealth increased by 16%. Third-party management fees grew by 10% in the private market segment.

Profitability continues to improve: FRE margin reached 36%, up 40 basis points year-on-year. PREs are starting to deliver.

PREs from third parties tripled to €11 million. Second, balance sheet realizations were up 44% at €1.5 billion.

We reached the rotation rate of 20% that we had announced, which is much better than the market. Thanks to the dynamic pace of realizations, we were able to return to our shareholders an additional €600 million of capital whilst deleveraging.

Third, we kept a prudent approach on valuations in an environment that was and still is overall volatile. As per our guidance, portfolio value was slightly down at -1.6%, excluding foreign exchange impact in 2025.

Trend has improved in the second half of the year, and our portfolio companies continue to show positive momentum, with a 12% EBITDA growth in buyout as a case in point in 2025. This is positive entering into 2026.

We are now two years into the execution of our four-year plan, and this is time for us to take stock of where we stand. We are tracking ahead of plan on expanding and scaling our client franchise—Christophe will come back to that—with a growing number of institutional clients and a rising share of international LPs, and also continued expansion in wealth solutions.

We are among the winning private market platforms in Europe. We are on track on earnings growth: FRE margin is above 35% and continues to grow, PREs are starting to contribute more meaningfully, and the asset management cash profile is on plan thanks to double-digit third-party fee growth and reduced reliance on the balance sheet.

We are also on track in implementing the shift towards an asset-lighter model and enhancing shareholder return. We have outperformed the market on realizations, and we have already distributed around €1 billion of capital back to our shareholders.

Portfolio value creation was disappointing in 2024 and 2025. We had to mark down legacy assets, we reflected the downward multiples in some sectors, and we faced unfavorable forex headwinds.

We saw a marked improvement in the second half of 2025 and expect that trend to continue going forward as the operational performance of our portfolio companies remains healthy. We also continue to reinforce our leadership in sustainability and impact.

Assets dedicated to environment and healthcare solutions reached €6.1 billion in 2025, representing around 16% of total AUM. Our impact strategies contributed about €460 million of 2025 inflows, i.e.

roughly 9% of total fundraising, with EPBF securing €360 million towards a €750 million target, and ESMI 2 in debt completing a first closing at €175 million. On climate alignment, 28% of eligible private equity portfolio companies now have an SBTI-validated target, above our 25% objective for end of '25.

70% of the eligible portfolio is on the SBTI pathway, with an ambition of 100% by 2030. These achievements complement strong external assessments.

With that overview, I will hand over to Christophe for fundraising and asset rotation.

Christophe Bavière

Thank you, William. Let's now focus on the operational performance of our asset management, starting with fundraising.

As William mentioned, 2025 was a record year for fundraising, with third-party inflows of €5.5 billion, up again 28%. This is the third year in a row with a more than 20% increase in fundraising level.

Fundraising was well balanced between debt and equity, reflecting the strength of Eurazeo's diversified product slate. By strategy, private equity raised €2.7 billion, up 64%, including EC V closing at €3 billion, above target; EPBF securing more than 40% of its €750 million target, as William was mentioning; and PME V already above €650 million fundraised.

Growth achieved a first closing for EGF IV at €650 million, and venture strategies raised over €100 million. Secondaries and mandates collected more than €800 million.

Private debt raised €2.7 billion, up 8%, with obviously our flagship fund, EPDI number 7, in direct lending reaching €3.5 billion by year-end 2025. There is more to come, as in 2026, at the beginning of this year, we received a request from LPs to increase the hard cap at €3.9 [billion?]

. This breadth across strategies and channels underpins Eurazeo market share gains.

Eurazeo is gaining market share, delivering on the promise we made during our Capital Market Day. Taking 2019 as a base, Eurazeo's annual fundraising is up 126% compared to +33% increase for the European market, which, as you can see, has regained some strength recently, compared to the global market, which is down -7%.

In absolute terms, we scaled from €2.4 billion to €5.5 billion over this period, underscoring the strength of Eurazeo platform and the breadth of our client franchise. Now, I would like to take a moment to walk you through the private debt franchise, which, as you already know, is a highly differentiated platform.

Let's look at the progression by vintage. It is clear and deliberate: the EPDI 4 program reached €400 million, EPDI 6 scaled at €3.2 billion, and the total program of EPDI number 7, including wealth and mandates, could surpass €5 billion this year in 2026.

This scaling cements our leadership in small to mid-cap direct lending, and it accelerates the internationalization of our LP base, as it is a good entry point for new investors and supports larger, more global deal flow. The franchise continues to generate an average fee rate above 80 basis points, a premium to more vanilla credit strategies, and it reflects the alpha generated by our team in this specific segment of the mid-market, the European mid-market.

We continued to expand and internationalize Eurazeo's institutional base, with a net addition, as William was mentioning, of 44 new LPs in 2025. The number of Eurazeo's institutional clients has now reached over 500.

Our client base grew by an average of +25% per annum since 2022. The share of institutional inflows from outside France rose to 71% in 2025 compared to 37% back in the 2018–2020 years.

This reflects strong contribution from the rest of Europe and the rest of the world, demonstrating Eurazeo's ability to win blue-chip LP mandates across regions. Growing our franchise is not only a testament to the quality of our investment approach and teams, it is also a springboard for future growth.

Our experience is that once trust is established, large institutional LPs subscribe to more of our funds over time. As William mentioned, we continue to expand our wealth solution franchise, with €922 million raised in 2025.

We are now reaching €5.8 billion of AUM in this specific wealth solutions. The franchise has compounded at a rate of +18% per annum, supported by our blockbuster evergreen, EPV3.

It has now surpassed €3.5 billion in AUM and ranks top three in Europe. We are broadening our European footprint, with traction in the Benelux and new distribution partnerships in Italy, Germany, and Switzerland.

We officially launched the Eurazeo Prime evergreen line at the end of 2025, with EPIC in private credit and EPSO in private equity. We continue to invest in brand recognition, and it is paying off.

We were among the most recognized fund managers at IPEM Wealth 2026 Awards, with three collective prizes and one individual award. Looking ahead, the 2026 pipeline is solid, well diversified, with both flagship funds and more thematic and wealth-oriented offerings.

Let me start with funds targeting institutional LPs. In private debt, EPDI number 7 continues to be very successful and high in demand.

It is going to do a final close soon, and it will be reaching its new hard cap. We expect to be launching EPDI number 8 in a not-too-distant future, and we are also on the road with our asset-based vehicle, ESMI 2.

In equities, as you can see, we have a strong pipeline with flagship funds. In buyout, PME V has already a good traction and should be among the highlights of the year.

ESF V in secondaries and EGF IV in growth, both accelerate their fundraisings. Finally, in real assets, we are launching the fundraising of our second vintage in infrastructure, ETIF number 2, and we will be collecting for Eurazeo Real Estate, the real estate fund in operational real estate.

In wealth, inflows in our evergreen fund, EPV3, remain dynamic, but it's complemented by the rollout of EPIC and EPSO internationally. Our 2026 fundraising pipeline is underpinned by the strong ongoing performance across strategies, with all recent vintages in particular showing top-notch track records.

All Eurazeo private debt funds have shown top-quartile track records and very low default rates, our seventh vintage, EPDI 7, is obviously benefiting from that. ESF IV and V, our latest secondary funds, are delivering gross IRR of 14% each.

EGF IV in growth equity has a good start, I would say a very good start, with +10% gross value creation in 2025, with premium investment in deep tech and AI and the exit of Cognigy, leading to best-in-class DPI of already 30%. PME IV posts a strong 29% gross IRR and top-decile DPI of 40%.

In real estate, Eurazeo benefits from the strong track record of the two balance sheet programs in real estate, with top-quartile performances above 20% IRR and strong DPI. Finally, in infrastructure, ETIF 1, ETIF 1's portfolio gross IRR is at 13%, supported by strong tailwinds.

Deployments totaled €5.3 billion in 2025 compared to €4.6 billion in 2024. In private equity, we deployed €2.2 billion with high-quality companies, like for example Mapal in Spain, Ecoscan in France, Omax in Germany, Scripip in Belgium, and Dexory in the UK.

In private debt and secondaries, pacing is fully in line with objectives. At year-end, EPDI number 7 was invested at 61%, and ESF number 5 in secondary was invested at 53%.

In real estate, we invested in Aquardens in Italy, Waterdrinker in the UK, Terralair in Germany. We enter 2026 with dry powder of €6.2 billion, up 15% year-on-year, and €2 billion of balance sheet commitment, positioning the platform to capture attractive opportunities, with a total dry powder of €8.2 billion.

Now realizations. We continued our good momentum on realizations after a pickup in 2024.

At group level, realizations totaled €3.1 billion in 2025 compared to €3.4 [billion] in 2024. Private equity exits reached €1.9 [billion], confirming the group's ability to monetize assets on strong terms.

In private debt, realizations were at €1.2 billion, slightly ahead of last year, reflecting steady portfolio turnover. As far as 2026 is concerned, we have a good pipeline of potential exits, and we have already closed and announced two deals: Fermax and Exxelia.

Let me take some time to highlight the quality of our realizations. As you can see, we continued in 2025 to crystallize strong value creation, continuing our track record of 2.1 gross realized MOIC since 2012 and consistent uplifts to latest marks.

Again, we have a good start for 2026 with the closing of Fermax and Exxelia. Realizations and distributions are top priorities for LPs and a key factor in the transformation of our business model.

It will remain an area of focus for us and our teams in the years to come. Thank you for your attention, and William, over to you for the financial results.

William Kadouch-Chassaing

Thank you, Christophe. I will now take you through the financial results for 2025.

Let me start with the asset management activity. As said, we delivered double-digit growth in both third-party AUM and fee-paying AUM.

At the end of 2025, total AUM were €39 billion, up 8% over one year, with third-party AUM standing at €30 billion, an increase of 15%. Fee-paying AUM reached €28 billion, up 8%, driven by third-party fee-paying AUM, which were up 12%, while balance sheet fee-paying AUM declined 12% as we continue to reduce the weight of our balance sheet.

Of note, let me stress that our fee-paying AUM ratio to total AUM continues to stand high at around 72%. Management fees came in at €435 million in 2025, up 3% year-on-year.

Third-party management fees totaled €322 million, up 7.5% at constant currency. Private markets fees, core for our business, increased by 10% to €237 million, supported by strong fundraising momentum, as said, and higher third-party fee-paying AUM, with the average fee rate holding firm at around 120 basis points, which compares well with the rest of the industry.

IM Global Partner came in at €85 million of management fees, down 2%, mainly affected by a forex headwind, a dollar exchange rate headwind of -4%, while AUM and revenues in US dollar grew by 2%. Balance-sheet-related management fees were €113 million, down 5%.

This reflects completed disposals and lower balance sheet commitments in the funds, which is fully consistent with the asset-lighter strategy announced at end 2023. Fee-related earnings increased to €156 million, with the FRE margin up 40 basis points year-on-year to approximately 36%.

We already reached our mid-term target range of 35% to 40%. The uplift reflects healthy third-party fee growth, as said, combined with tight cost control.

Costs were only up 3% in 2025. This is the first time we give you the EBITDA now, and we will do that in the next quarters and years.

EBITDA from the asset management activity was €206 million, up 12%. This is consistent with a 44% margin and more than 2 points gain year-on-year.

Realized performance fees reached €33 million, doubling versus last year, with a portion coming from third parties tripling to €11 million. Several funds are approaching distribution thresholds that will allow for more meaningful recognition of performance fees over a mid-term investment cycle, as we committed, PREs should progressively represent around 10% of third-party revenues.

We continue to grow the base of our third-party management fees as well as performance fees. Thus, our asset management business has turned into a positive and growing cash flow contributor for the group.

Let me turn to the results of the investment company. At the end of 2025, net portfolio value amounted to €6.8 billion, with the following drivers: organic value change was a slight decline of -1.6% as per our guidance.

The good momentum in earnings in our portfolio was compensated by multiple compression in some segments, which, for a large part, we had anticipated, and still unfavorable cap rates in real estate. Forex accounted for -2.5%, and perimeter effect accounted to -9%, in line with the expected downsizing of our balance sheet that we had announced.

As you can see, value creation in the second half of the year improved quite significantly relative to the first half, as the operational metrics of the underlying portfolio continue to be healthy. We now expect to post positive value creation going forward.

This assumes, obviously, some stabilization of current high market volatility. Portfolio value per share stood at €102.1 at the end of 2025.

This is down 5% in spite of a perimeter effect of -9% and value creation of -4%. The accretion from buybacks hence meaningfully enhances per-share value, which is consistent with our capital allocation priorities.

As said, our portfolio companies delivered a solid performance in 2025, another year, I should say, of solid performance, with a pretty strong Q4 overall. Buyout companies delivered robust progress, with revenues up 7% and EBITDA up 12%, supported by a clear acceleration in the second half.

In growth and venture, fundamentals remain sound. Average revenue growth was 14%.

The most recent EGF IV investments are scaling fast and even faster, at around 40% growth in average. In real estate, hospitality revenues were up 3%, and infrastructure continued to perform strongly, with a 30% year-on-year revenue growth.

The contribution was logically mainly driven by non-cash elements and amounted to -€552 million in 2025, with €351 million pertaining to fair value change and €113 million of management fees from the asset management activities. This is an intercompany flow.

Strategic management costs and financial expenses were both roughly stable and fairly low. Consolidated net income, group share, was -€403 million.

Asset management contributed +€161 million, while the investment activity, as I just said, contributed -€552 million, mainly non-cash. Let's move now on to the balance sheet realizations.

Balance sheet divestments totaled €1.5 billion in 2025. This is up 44% over one year, and this represented about 20% of the 2024 year-end portfolio value, completely in line with our guidance.

We are entering 2026 with a diversified pipeline of exits and aim to maintain our good pace of rotation. Let me remind, together with Christophe, that over the first two years of the plan, we have exited €2.6 billion of balance sheet assets, representing around 31% of the 2023 year-end NAV.

These exits have generated an average gross cash-on-cash multiple of 2.1x, an average gross IRR of about 21%, and an average uplift on the latest mark of about 14%. This highlights, in our view, the quality of our portfolio, the overall conservativeness of the way we are marking our assets, and our ability to monetize them.

This bodes well for the future development. Return to shareholders, which is obviously number one priority in capital allocation, as you know.

In 2025, we returned €189 million in dividends, with a dividend per share up 10%. We will propose an ordinary dividend of €2.92 per share, a further 10% increase versus last year, with an expected cash-out of around €200 million in 2026.

Loyalty premium of 10% will be paid to registered shareholders holding their shares for more than two years within the 0.5% legal ownership threshold. Over '24 and '26, i.e.

three years, cumulative dividends will have reached €600 million. Our share buyback program remains active.

Since launch, we have executed about €600 million of buybacks over '24–'25, or about 12% of the share count. In 2026, we plan to buy back 4% additionally to this 12% for about €200 million, which will bring the cumulative buyback over '24–'26 to about €800 million.

Very importantly, through 2027, our objective remains to purchase around 25% of total shares, i.e. approximately 45% of the free float.

The sequencing of execution in '26–'27 is driven by our ability to maximize regulatory volumes each year whilst remaining continuously active in the market. To conclude, as we have now executed two years of our strategic plan, let us recall the three pillars of our equity story.

First, we are building a leader in an attractive private markets industry. Second, we deliver steady earnings growth, revenue expansion, and disciplined cost management.

Third, we return significant capital to shareholders, accelerating our shift towards an asset-lighter business model. Thank you for your attention.

We can now open the Q&A session.

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, if you would like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad.

We'll pause for a brief moment. Thank you.

We will now take our first question from Nicolas Vaysselier of BNP Paribas. Please go ahead.

Nicolas Vaysselier

Thank you. Good morning.

Thank you for the presentation. Just two questions for me.

The first one will be regarding your exposure to software and more broadly tech. Could you clarify what is the percent exposure on the balance sheet portfolio for both software and broader tech?

Then I wanted to ask regarding your valuation NAV as of December 2025. Obviously, a big part of the rout for software companies happened in January and February, I was wondering to what extent you have reflected this market move already in the NAV as of December '25.

Also I seem to remember already in '24 you were mentioning downward pressure on some SaaS multiples that would be reflected in your NAV. I'm wondering to what extent the rout we've seen for software companies has been reflected in your valuation.

Then my second question would be on the third-party management fees. It's good to see the increase this quarter.

I suppose the fundraising in private equity has helped with a high fee margin, but I was wondering to what extent you also had catch-up fees in Q4, if any. Thank you very much.

William Kadouch-Chassaing

Thank you, Nicolas. Let me start with the exposure at group level.

We operate and manage €39 billion of assets under management. If you want to compare the type of exposure, the risk appetite of Eurazeo relative to the peers that have already published, you need to take the full AUM.

Simply put, the number is 10% ex the venture and growth strategies, and it's a bit more than 15% at group level if you take stock of or you include the venture and growth exposure that we have. That's very consistent with the market, a tad lower than some peers.

Why is it a bit lower? Because we have very low exposure in debt, 9%—we'll come back with Christophe if you have more questions as to what we mean by exposure to software in debt.

We are very disciplined. The type of leverage we take is a bit different than the rest of the market, a bit more cautious.

We have zero exposure in, obviously, real assets. We have very little exposure in secondaries, et cetera.

Now, if you stick to the balance sheet, which is your question, there's a bit more exposure logically because of the fact that balance sheet is composed of 60% roughly of buyout and 24% of growth and venture. You would have in total something like 16%, 17% exposure ex growth and venture and going above 25% including growth and venture.

I think that answers quite clearly your comment or question on the exposure. Now, you touched on a very important element: how are these assets valued?

You remember that we had some pushback from the market when we were saying the whole of 2025, and you are nice enough to remember what we had already said in 2024, that no, not all the multiples were up. In fact, the decrease in multiples and valuation of SaaS models has started much before January, February 2026 if you really look at what happened.

This is the reason why, amongst other things, in spite of seeing good performance of our underlying portfolios, including in SaaS—I have to say that most of the companies that we have that would qualify under software are at or above budget for 2025, and they all show high single-digit or double-digit EBITDA growth—yet we had decided to be very cautious on multiples. Why have we decided to be disciplined?

A, because we were seeing already some decrease, but also because we want to maintain the calibration that we have at the outset, i.e. a discount, using a discount to the multiple we see in the market.

This is what we have continued to do. It is very hard to predict what can happen in the multiples of such a large sector going forward.

What I can say, together with Christophe, is that we have already factored in that pressure pretty much in '24 and '25. Given the underlying performance of the companies we are invested into, that should be seen as a positive on your side.

You didn't ask it, but we are ready with Christophe to answer to you also about the qualitative elements that need to be taken into consideration when talking about software and tech. We are talking about very different business models.

Some of these business models are very resilient to what's happening in AI because they adapt to the AI opportunities. They have added in on the product slate a lot of AI products.

Take Doctolib in our portfolio, for example, that's a case in point. Or they have very, very strong barriers to entry.

Take DiliTrust in the Elevate portfolio. They manage a software for compliance and these in the finance industry in particular and beyond, and that obviously goes with very, very strong barriers to entry in managing that type of complexity.

The generic software comment is always a bit easy. Now, third-party management fees: yes, we have catch-up fees, it's about 8% roughly adjusted for foreign exchange, of which 3% pertains to catch-up fees.

Nicolas Vaysselier

Thank you very much. Very fair point.

Operator

Thank you. We will now take our next question from Alexandre Girard of CIC CIB.

Please go ahead.

Alexandre Girard

Yes, good morning, and thank you for the presentation. I have three questions.

Can we have a better feel of any assets maybe in your portfolio that could be directly exposed to the current geopolitical situation? I thought maybe tourism-related companies.

If we could have a better feel of that. Second question also regarding asset rotation in 2026: you expect to be ahead of 20% in terms of asset rotation, and can you or have you already communicated on the value creation on the two deals that you have already announced?

I'm talking about Fermax and Exxelia in terms of euros per share. Third question also, same thing for 2026 in terms of fundraising: given the fact that you raised €5.5 billion, which is a very high amount, in 2025, do you expect to be ahead of that level in 2026?

Can you remind us also the funds that will be marketed in 2026? Thank you.

William Kadouch-Chassaing

I'll take the first one, and Christophe will take the outlook on fundraising. Assets in the portfolio that may be impacted by the current geopolitical crisis: by definition, if what's happening would translate into a severe and prolonged economic crisis, you can assume that most of the assets in any portfolio will feel some implications.

That would be silly to say otherwise. Now, in reality, we are not very exposed to industrials, and so we don't feel so much impact from the energy prices moves.

That's a first point. We don't have much exposure to the Middle Eastern markets in terms of the underlying growth of the companies we have in the portfolios.

We have clients in our funds in the Middle East, loyal and large clients, but we don't have much exposure to this market. I don't expect, in a nutshell, much impact absent, of course, a severe deterioration in the macro data, which allows me to say that what we've seen in Q4—and you've seen some data points particularly pertaining to Europe and the US in the beginning of the year—we've seen rather the contrary, i.e.

an improvement in the overall macro environment so far. Rotation: so we want to stick to what we've said.

We are cautious people, we deliver. It's been three years that we deliver bang what we've said we would do, we are saying to you we have a good pipeline.

We have already started to execute some of this pipeline, and we'll keep the pace. It's probably consistent with, yes, our capacity to reach the average pace of 20%.

Then you had a question on the markups. You can see that Fermax as well as Exxelia were sold at very significant uplift relative to the last mark, so that would be translated into the H1 numbers.

Christophe Bavière

Thank you. If it goes to obviously fundraising prospects in 2026, as we don't give guidance for the year, but yes, you are right to mention that momentum is still very strong.

Where Eurazeo has a very strong point is that, first, our product offering is highly diversified. We are raising this year private debt vehicles, and we benefit again from the fact that private debt number 7 is increasing its hard cap, we will benefit at the beginning of this year of this increase of the hard cap.

It's already something that we are currently finalizing, and there is still strong demand for private debt in Europe. We also have a strong private equity product offering with a combination of funds that are already at the tail end of their fundraising, for example in secondary we are in the tail end of the fundraising; with PME V, we are preparing the first closing; with Growth IV, we have already raised the first closing and we are benefiting from an acceleration of demand in this field.

If we talk about real assets, in real estate we will have in 2026 two products. Infrastructure, the demand is still very strong, and again we focus on a specific segment of the infrastructure, which is energy transition infrastructure in the mid-market, this is a very differentiated product.

In real estate, we also benefit from the fact that it is a very differentiated product, it's operational real estate, it's something very different than what the competition can offer. We are also very diversified by geography, and we still benefit from a general movement where Europe, and more specifically mid-market in Europe, is perceived by more and more international investors, especially from Asia for example, as a relatively predictable investment universe, relatively safe, we are benefiting from that.

Last, by markets, we are also very diversified: wealth management and institutional investors don't behave the same way. To keep a long answer short, we benefit from very diversified opportunities in deal flow, and yes, we intend to maintain a good momentum in fundraising.

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Once again, as a reminder, if you would like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad.

Thank you. We will now move on to our next question from Arnaud Palliez of CIC CIB.

Please go ahead.

Arnaud Palliez

Yes, hello. Good morning and thank you for the presentation.

Can you give us some details about liquidity on your fund? Do you face any issue at this level, especially in real estate and wealth management?

As this is a concern in the US, I would like to know if you're facing the same kind of issue in Europe.

Christophe Bavière

Thank you for that. Yes, we have a strong wealth management vehicle, and we have also, to say it clearly, we have evergreen vehicles.

The beauty of evergreen vehicles is that you can subscribe at any time, but you can also use gates to withdraw your money. EPV3 is our blockbuster, and today inside EPV3, you have 20% of cash.

20% of cash, which is quite differentiating from some of our peers. If you look at the gross demand, not the net demand, the gross demand for exits, for the new gates that will be at the end of this quarter, it's 0.7%.

Today, first of all, we are not facing redemption or people are not asking for gates. If it increases, we have the ability to face it.

On top of that, the number I mentioned is gross, but we also face huge subscription flows. Today we are very confident on this component of our activities.

The evergreen vehicles are managed in a very, very robust way. Regarding real estate, our current investments are done for our balance sheet only.

We are launching a new fund, and so we don't have this liquidity issues that can face some of our competitors in third-party-managed vehicles.

William Kadouch-Chassaing

We don't intend to go in all asset classes with wealth vehicles. That's a very important thing.

Our strong belief with Christophe is that the best underlying that you can have for wealth distribution as relates to evergreens, i.e. with liquidity windows, remains private debt and secondaries, and we will stick to that conservative approach.

Operator

Thank you.

Alexandre Casas

We will

Operator

now take our next question, a follow-up from Nicolas Vaysselier of BNP Paribas. Please go ahead.

Nicolas, you might want to unmute your audio.

Nicolas Vaysselier

Good morning. Thank you for coming back to me.

Just two quick questions. There's been some headlines last week about you being shortlisted along with some other European managers for managing European Union tech fund.

If you can make a comment on potential size and economics for Eurazeo, I appreciate at this stage it might be difficult for you. Then secondly, you've launched two additional evergreen products in wealth this year.

I wanted to know what was the traction in terms of fundraising of both and what's the pipeline for 2026 in terms of new wealth products?

William Kadouch-Chassaing

Question number one: as you would understand, we will be very prudent in any representation we can do. It's a competitive process with the EU Commission being involved and coordinating the whole process, and so we have some duties in terms of what we can disclose and not disclose.

The only thing I can say together with Christophe is, number one, we're very proud to be five out of a large number of contenders being selected for the final round, which—and that's my response on the thing—is a testament to the high quality of what Eurazeo has achieved in the tech space over years, the high quality of the team that is spearheaded by [unclear] which we appointed now three years ago as head of growth. Christophe mentioned to you, by the way, the performance of EGF IV, which is the performance of our team in charge that has been in charge for three years, 10% value creation and already 30% DPI.

That's pretty strong. We'll do everything we can to win that one, but it is obviously very competitive with all the largest and biggest and most prestigious firms in tech Europe being involved.

Christophe Bavière

To complete on what William just mentioned, the quality of innovation, the quality of business models built in Europe in innovative space, in deep tech and in AI, is sometimes, sorry to say it this way, better perceived by international players than by us. Regarding, yes, evergreen vehicles: yes, our blockbuster today is a French legal structure.

It is perfectly adapted to French, for example, life insurance regimes, it's largely used as a unit link inside life insurance contracts. To do the same all over Europe, we needed Luxembourg international structures, they are Luxembourg-based and obviously they are now entirely adapted to serve wealth market in Italy, Germany, Switzerland, and also Benelux.

We are putting our own money to seed these two vehicles so that they can have a track record and a portfolio. It takes time, but it takes time because we are not selling directly to the end user.

We are partnering with banks, insurance companies, independent brokers, independent networks of brokers to get access to the final user. We currently have a very good list of Italian, German, and Swiss names that are interested.

Again, let's face it: wealth management as a whole are not over-allocated to private equity, private debt, or real assets all over Europe.

Operator

Thank you. We have no further questions in the queue currently, handing it over for the webcast questions.

Yes, we have some questions very quickly on the web, we have a few from Isabel, but Eric from Autonomous, a few of them have already been answered, and I will combine it with an investor's question. Can we expect value creation on the balance sheet at constant exchange rates in 2026?

How long would it take to go back to sort of the historical average of the 10% long-term average?

William Kadouch-Chassaing

The 10%, and I should say above, long-term average is obviously our minimum goal to begin with. Let me say that when you look beyond the sequential value creation at the return of the balance sheet investment funds, we are still double-digit across the main categories in terms of IRR, so that's a very important thing to consider for shareholders.

2026, we start the year with a better outlook idiosyncratically. As I said, we have very strong dynamic in the underlying portfolio, fundamentals are good, macro environment in Q4 has improved, and we have been quite prudent in our approach of multiples.

In a nutshell, that should be a positive for 2026. Expect that I will do a little caveat.

As we said with Christophe, there is a significant volatility in the markets today with a context that nobody knows where it leads. Fundamentally, ex-forex and if things stabilize on the overall environment, we are on track for a much better year.

I have a last question, which I think we already answered partially at least, on the share buyback program, there's regulatory limits. Are there any opportunities to accelerate the buyback in a synthetic way or any other way to take advantage of the discounted stock valuation at the moment?

William Kadouch-Chassaing

This is not our intention. We do plain things that are easy to understand.

We've already executed 12%. The aim is 25%, we are exactly at the middle of the plan in two years out of four.

We'll do an additional 4%. Happy to go into the details of which these limits are, but we will be at 16% at the end of 2026, and we know that we will have some room to execute an additional 8%, 9%, which we have done just in 2025.

We know that we can manage that. By the way, we've done that without relying much on blocks.

We've done that mainly in the flow, and remember that we can execute share buybacks with a combination of flow and blocks.

Thank you. There is no further question, so—

William Kadouch-Chassaing

Thank you very much.

Christophe Bavière

Thank you very much today. Thank you.

Have a nice day. Bye-bye.